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Times: Britain may transfer a tank group to the Baltic countries

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London is exploring the possibility of sending about a thousand military to the Baltic states, Tanks and artillery, reports Times.


Times: Britain may transfer a tank group to the Baltic countries


According to newspaper sources, "London is planning to send a tank tactical group, which will also be equipped with artillery." The final issue will be resolved at the Warsaw summit of NATO.

In addition, the newspaper notes, "the alliance is considering the possibility of placing warehouses with tanks and other heavy weapons in Eastern Europe in order to increase (their) defense capability."

Earlier, the head of the British Foreign Ministry, Philip Hammond, said that as part of the NATO reinforcement program on the eastern frontiers, in the Baltic countries and Poland, the 4 battalion could be deployed on a rotating basis. It was assumed that the United States 2 battalion will send, and one at a time - the United Kingdom and Germany.
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  1. Putinets
    Putinets 30 May 2016 09: 09
    +13
    We will collect all unnecessary scrap, collect scrap metal.
    The utilizer of a point of reception - Iskander
    1. Finches
      Finches 30 May 2016 09: 21
      +31
      Something like that about tank groups once upon a time! They were commanded by residents of the European Union, some Goth, Guderian, von Kleist and Gepner ....
      1. cniza
        cniza 30 May 2016 09: 24
        +20
        Quote: Finches
        Something like that about tank groups once upon a time! They were commanded by residents of the European Union, some Goth, Guderian, von Kleist and Gepner ....


        History repeats itself, but neither the USA nor NATO has taught anything.
        1. AnpeL
          AnpeL 30 May 2016 09: 39
          +6
          Can the situation be the opposite.
          At the very beginning of the Second World War, our armed forces were concentrated along the border and the sudden attack of Europe, led by fascist Germany, made it possible to destroy a large (though not large, but still) part of the Red Army. In the case, of course, God forbid, the enemy’s forces located in these countries will be destroyed first of all (given their periodic yapping at Russia), of course, if we don’t oversleep again. But then again I will say, Lord not bring.
          1. AnpeL
            AnpeL 30 May 2016 09: 42
            +1
            I wonder why I have a flag, Moldovan felts, Romanian felts, although I myself am writing from the Urals. Maybe this is an unofficial banner of the Ural land ?? Admins ??
            1. Kurun
              Kurun 30 May 2016 10: 26
              +7
              Maybe you are an Ural Moldovashka))
            2. Thrall
              Thrall 30 May 2016 11: 40
              +3
              Sun Tzu. Art of War
              The enemy does not know where he will fight. And since he does not know this, he has many places where he should be ready. If there are many places where he should be ready, those who are fighting with me are few. Therefore, if he is ready at the front, he will have little strength at the back; if he is ready at the back, he will have little strength at the front; if he is ready on the left, he will have little power on the right; if he is ready on the right, he will have little strength on the left. There cannot be little strength for one who does not have a place where he should not be ready. The one who should be ready everywhere has little strength; the one who forces the other to be ready everywhere has a lot of strength.
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            3. MACCABI-TLV
              MACCABI-TLV 30 May 2016 11: 41
              +1
              Quote: AnpeL
              I wonder why I have a flag, Moldovan felts, Romanian felts, although I myself am writing from the Urals

              to the server without a difference smile
          2. Kite
            Kite 30 May 2016 11: 19
            0
            Quote: AnpeL
            .... enemy forces located in these countries will be destroyed first of all ....

            - a question arises for these eccentrics: are they going to threaten us with these forces? Do we need something in the Baltics or England? I do not see anything of value there, and the threat, although funny, is on display at our borders. Since there is nothing valuable for us in England, then while these tanks crawl across the border, England may no longer be. It was in 41st that our 28 Panfilov men liquidated the breakthrough of tanks, and now 28 Iskander can do this, but more likely 28 Voevod will eliminate the threat radically.
            1. Corsair
              Corsair 30 May 2016 13: 58
              +2
              Quote: Kite
              and now 28 Iskander can do this

              It is too wasteful to spend the Iskanders on tanks, they will get into us several turntables, they will put all 3 of them tanks.
              Only jokes as jokes, and pulling tanks (artifacts, etc.) to our borders under the guise of exercises (weapons mostly remain after exercises) is very annoying. And let the tankers arrive at the tanks a little separately, but in general they can be distracted seriously and do not forget about the Poles, who can set up about 900 tanks.
              It is very similar to preparing for a serious war, but it will not work to bomb your own and adjacent territories — it will cover itself with a rose of winds.
          3. Forest
            Forest 30 May 2016 14: 03
            0
            Just at the beginning of the war, our forces were spread over a gigantic territory of 3 thousand kilometers along the front and several hundred in depth. The combat units were on the same line, the headquarters were somewhere deep in the old border, the rear was still hanging around in the Smolensk region.
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 30 May 2016 10: 42
          +2
          Quote: cniza
          History repeats itself, but neither the USA nor NATO has taught anything.

          Even less, she taught the Balts.
          Along the way, the new curators are actively preparing these republics for slaughter.
          1. Briz
            Briz 30 May 2016 19: 20
            0
            Yes, there’s already nothing to be killed there ... they dispersed ... to Europe, abandoned everything of their own ...
        3. WKS
          WKS 30 May 2016 10: 59
          +4
          British circus tent. Maybe a village Latvian or an Estonian is really afraid of this rubbish of the last century. But for the Russian army, this is nothing more than an annoying factor at the level of a mosquito on the beach. On this and the British calculation. After all, Britain can’t put anything more serious
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      3. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 30 May 2016 09: 54
        +7
        Quote: Finches
        Something similar about tank groups once was


        Will be gone. They chopped. We have Sergey Kuzhugetovich throwing 30 thousand fighters across the Urals in less than a day, in full gear, and here there are already 4 battalions with portable latrines.
      4. masiya
        masiya 30 May 2016 10: 32
        +2
        Only now Guderianov something they can not see, we have at least Shoigu appeared ...
      5. 96423lom
        96423lom 30 May 2016 13: 58
        +1
        English versus Goth and Gudarian kittens.
        1. Briz
          Briz 30 May 2016 19: 23
          +2
          They did not shine against Rommel ...
      6. sgazeev
        sgazeev 30 May 2016 13: 59
        +2
        For more than two years, the African Corps of Field Marshal Erwin Rommel fought in North Africa with superior British and then American troops. The talented commander, “desert foxes,” as the British called him, managed, either advancing or exhausting the enemy in defensive battles, step by step from Libya almost to the Nile Delta. Do the Britons want to repeat in the swamps of the Baltic states? Oh well.
    2. Kars
      Kars 30 May 2016 09: 24
      +5
      There’s no news that a tank captured in 1982 will be returned to Israel from Kubinka)
      1. CORNET
        CORNET 30 May 2016 09: 32
        +9
        We never took London ... Think Naglosaksa carefully, there you have a lot of our thieves hiding! Do not anger the Russian bear, for God's sake!
        Scotland has not changed its mind there yet to separate ...? We can help in organizing the referendum of the next!
      2. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 30 May 2016 09: 40
        +2
        Quote: Kars
        There’s no news that a tank captured in 1982 will be returned to Israel from Kubinka)
        Israel has no "Merkav" left, if the ancient "Magician" is asked to return? bully And the Angles and the Deutsches do not think that after a while they will have to ask to return from Kubinka their “Challengers” and “Leopards”, lost in the Baltic States?
        1. iliitchitch
          iliitchitch 30 May 2016 10: 11
          0
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Israel has no "Merkav" left, if the ancient "Magician" is asked to return? And the Angles and the Deutsches do not think that after a while they will have to ask to return from Kubinka their “Challengers” and “Leopards”, lost in the Baltic States?


          As the foreman used to say, it will come in handy, purely on ferrous metal.
      3. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 30 May 2016 11: 34
        0
        "There is no news that a tank captured in 1982 will be returned to Israel from Kubinka)" ///

        In my opinion, its much more useful place is in Kubinka.
        In Israel there are many (not yet cut).
        This is a museum specimen. Let it stand in a large tank museum.
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 30 May 2016 12: 02
          0
          Quote: voyaka uh
          In my opinion, its much more useful place is in Kubinka.

          So Netanyahu himself begged him.
          Quote: voyaka uh
          This is a museum specimen. Let it stand in a large tank museum.

          It looks like there is a case in the history of the crew of the tank, as he went missing in 1982 year, and after the seizure of the tank by Syria, transferred to the Syrian side in the USSR.
          And it seems like the families of the missing Israelis are asked to return him as a monument to Israel.

          If a similar Kubinka send, but for God's sake.
          Although the families what the flower will be attributed to the memory of the missing soldiers.
      4. MACCABI-TLV
        MACCABI-TLV 30 May 2016 11: 42
        -1
        Quote: Kars
        There’s no news that a tank captured in 1982 will be returned to Israel from Kubinka)

        Not yet returned, logistics are being worked out.
        1. sgazeev
          sgazeev 30 May 2016 14: 06
          0
          Can ride it through Swinland? laughing
    3. Andrey K
      Andrey K 30 May 2016 09: 30
      +11
      Quote: Putin
      We will collect all unnecessary scrap, collect scrap metal.
      The utilizer of a point of reception - Iskander

      Here's another, "Iskander" to spend on them laughing
      Trash from all over Europe will be brought to "strengthen" ...
      They will suppress themselves, you don't even have to work. These "greatest democracies" in Europe are of such magnitude that this scrap metal has nowhere to turn laughing
      1. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. 30 May 2016 10: 48
        +1
        Quote: Andrey K
        Trash from all over Europe will be brought to "strengthen" ...

        left or right?
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K 30 May 2016 14: 35
          +5
          Quote: Pinky F.
          Quote: Andrey K
          Trash from all over Europe will be brought to "strengthen" ...

          left or right?

          Both laughing
      2. Briz
        Briz 30 May 2016 19: 53
        0
        wink the eye pleases! Hope this in the Baltic states?
    4. Karasik
      Karasik 30 May 2016 09: 38
      +3
      Quote: Putin
      The utilizer of a point of reception - Iskander

      What are the Iskanders, what are you, gentlemen? All these tanks and battalions - to repel military aggression from North Korea! wassat
    5. Peaceful Basmach
      Peaceful Basmach 30 May 2016 09: 40
      +1
      There will be enough uproot or tornado.
  2. Knowing
    Knowing 30 May 2016 09: 12
    +12
    Well, wait a bit, the vibe just like the eggs will be, hard-boiled.
    1. Andrey K
      Andrey K 30 May 2016 09: 32
      +11
      Defenders of the borders of the European Union and civilization in general laughing
  3. 31rus2
    31rus2 30 May 2016 09: 14
    +1
    Dear, I’d like to ask, what’s so modest, I would immediately have a division in each of the countries, and then what?
    1. Andrey K
      Andrey K 30 May 2016 09: 35
      +9
      Quote: 31rus2
      Dear, I’d like to ask, what’s so modest, I would immediately have a division in each of the countries, and then what?

      Not at all possible request
      More battalion will gather, the fields trample request
      Throw your imperial habits, there are countries with "gulkin h..nos" laughing
      1. 31rus2
        31rus2 30 May 2016 10: 59
        0
        Dear, I’m a humanist, so let every corner be abosan and every field repopulated by tanks, this is democracy
      2. mojohed2012
        mojohed2012 30 May 2016 12: 48
        +1
        At least laugh ... I don’t understand - why the Balts on that parade - from which the photo is above - drove "flyers" carrying model aircraft. Well, there is no air force of its own - well, why disgrace yourself? it's just nonsense and wildness. It turns out not a parade, but a show of a circle of model constructors - a costume of a flying Latvian.
        1. sgazeev
          sgazeev 30 May 2016 14: 20
          0
          I would die of shame, clowns.
    2. sgazeev
      sgazeev 30 May 2016 14: 14
      +2
      Quote: 31rus2
      Dear, I’d like to ask, what’s so modest, I would immediately have a division in each of the countries, and then what?
  4. azbukin77
    azbukin77 30 May 2016 09: 15
    +6
    Well, there are Anglo-Saxons. But they will rake in full, how much concern can be expressed?
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    2. Buchenwald
      Buchenwald 30 May 2016 09: 21
      -34%
      See yourself do not rake in full ...
      1. oleggun
        oleggun 30 May 2016 09: 34
        +12
        Naughty Geyropov spoke ... Do you even what? Do not hesitate, like you, Russia has always put in place.
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        2. Buchenwald
          Buchenwald 30 May 2016 14: 52
          0
          And here it is written that I’m making a fuss? I’m being bothered that you will come to me personally and you’ll put me in my place, a throat of Russia
      2. kotvov
        kotvov 30 May 2016 09: 44
        +8
        See yourself do not rake to the fullest ... ,,
        this is not your mother, barks nobly.
      3. BOB044
        BOB044 30 May 2016 10: 08
        +3
        Buchenwald RU

        See yourself do not rake in full ...
        What types of troops did he serve in NATO if so sure.
        1. Pinkie F.
          Pinkie F. 30 May 2016 10: 54
          0
          Quote: BOB044
          What types of troops did he serve in NATO if so sure.

          laughing
          1. mojohed2012
            mojohed2012 30 May 2016 12: 50
            +3
            In the sofas, and something tells me that under the flag of his belonging to the state, the tricolor is masked by a yellow-black flag.
  5. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 30 May 2016 09: 15
    +3
    Apparently, the NATO foremen decided to arrange a dump of scrap metal in the Baltic states, and at the same time scare Russia with their rubbish.
    1. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 30 May 2016 12: 53
      +1
      Actually the question: Why trash? It is clear that their tanks and infantry fighting vehicles are no match for Armata and even the T-90, but they will be able to do some trouble in the junk.
      And if Svidomo crews or gentlemen’s teams still put in there, then overseas exceptional supermen will not even have to die for the idea. Do not underestimate the enemy. We must prepare for its reflection and defeat.
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 30 May 2016 09: 20
    +2
    Yep, that's cool! Already on TWO battalions waved laughing And even with tanks! 50 pieces will probably be placed!
    Well, that’s it. Russia will now stop sleeping at night!
  7. Buchenwald
    Buchenwald 30 May 2016 09: 20
    -18%
    I tried to find a country in Europe that wasn’t yet ready for future reprisals against Russia — I didn’t find it — Sweden, Finland, Denmark, and Norway signed an agreement giving Americans the right to use
    their territories for NATO troops .. Complete encirclement ...
    http://warfiles.ru/show-119037-nato-gotovitsya-k-udaru.html
    1. strannik595
      strannik595 30 May 2016 09: 39
      +10
      Tried to find a country in Europe not yet fit for future reprisal against Russia

      reprisal was over Yugoslavia ............ and there will be mutual Great Ashes, if anything, and on the entire territory of NATO (including overseas territories), and the surviving Russians will continue to build their state on the territory of the surviving Siberia .... like Lomonosov's - "Russian power will grow in Siberia ..." laughing ............ no need to scare us, we are scared ........... for a thousand years everything has been scaring us, goblins
      1. Buchenwald
        Buchenwald 30 May 2016 14: 55
        0
        And no one scares you, see only the difference of 41 years, and today, do you Feel the difference then?
      2. Buchenwald
        Buchenwald 30 May 2016 14: 55
        0
        And no one scares you, see only the difference of 41 years, and today, do you Feel the difference then?
    2. Air defense Valga
      Air defense Valga 30 May 2016 09: 56
      +3
      The reprisal will be above you. And this time you will not get humanism from us. Your asshole will cover your bell with a bell. And you will be the first to run with bread and salt and you will sing ditties to our soldiers and look into our eyes.
    3. bocsman
      bocsman 30 May 2016 10: 23
      +3
      Quote: Buchenwald
      I tried to find a country in Europe that wasn’t yet ready for future reprisals against Russia — I didn’t find it — Sweden, Finland, Denmark, and Norway signed an agreement giving Americans the right to use
      their territories for NATO troops .. Complete encirclement ...
      http://warfiles.ru/show-119037-nato-gotovitsya-k-udaru.html


      Is it the first time that happens? Looks like no! And in XNUMX, all of Europe was clearly and not clearly at war with the USSR. Forgotten, or rather forced to forget, past lessons. Understandably, the leadership hopes to sit out in the bunkers and the people are told that the "valiant" NATO troops will protect them. But I am sure that all these games with fire are started to intimidate and put pressure on Russia. Only the humpback and Yeltsin are already in the past. And the current leadership is not intimidated like the people of Russia. So the kid is not bz ... and!
  8. Berber
    Berber 30 May 2016 09: 21
    +2
    They are teasing us.
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    2. Buchenwald
      Buchenwald 30 May 2016 09: 23
      -13%
      No, they are preparing, woof-woof will do ..
      1. oleggun
        oleggun 30 May 2016 09: 39
        +7
        Did you decide to march in a hike earlier? And what's next? Will you get under the table?
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      2. Karasik
        Karasik 30 May 2016 09: 46
        +2
        Quote: Buchenwald
        No, they are preparing, woof-woof will do ..

        When a dog barks, it does not bite. So let it be "woof wow", we are used to it.
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        2. Buchenwald
          Buchenwald 30 May 2016 14: 44
          0
          She already bites, while a little is the flowers yet, Then she wonders how everything will change quickly. As in June July, 41 years old, there will be no time for greyhounds and show-offs
      3. Pavel Tsybai
        Pavel Tsybai 30 May 2016 10: 42
        +5
        And this is by chance not your colleagues on the draftee?
  9. Denis DV
    Denis DV 30 May 2016 09: 25
    +7
    They know how to scare laughing
    1. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 30 May 2016 10: 07
      +10
      We laugh, but in NATO and the USA they think differently.
      I read the following on the English forum:
      After the accumulation of weapons and equipment at the borders of Russia, so as not to cause premature suspicion among the Russians. And, on day D, divisions of the USA and allies are massively transferred to the Baltic states and Poland. After the suppression of tomahawks from missile defense bases in Romania and Poland + ships from Aegis, missile silos of the Strategic Missile Forces of the Russian Federation + military targets, targeted attacks by tactical nuclear missiles and bombs are carried out on the territory of the Russian Federation.
      The air defense of the Russian Federation is out of order. In the first echelon, Ukraine, Poland, the Baltic states, Central Asians and Turks.
      In the absence of a massive strike by Minuteman rockets, etc., the Russians will not respond to this, but will be caught off guard.
      1. pigkiller
        pigkiller 30 May 2016 10: 25
        +2
        I agree with you. The new June 22 will be a hundred times worse than 1941.
        The countdown has already begun.
      2. bocsman
        bocsman 30 May 2016 10: 30
        +4
        Quote: mojohed2012
        We laugh, but in NATO and the USA they think differently.
        I read the following on the English forum:
        After the accumulation of weapons and equipment at the borders of Russia, so as not to cause premature suspicion among the Russians. And, on day D, divisions of the USA and allies are massively transferred to the Baltic states and Poland. After the suppression of tomahawks from missile defense bases in Romania and Poland + ships from Aegis, missile silos of the Strategic Missile Forces of the Russian Federation + military targets, targeted attacks by tactical nuclear missiles and bombs are carried out on the territory of the Russian Federation.
        The air defense of the Russian Federation is out of order. In the first echelon, Ukraine, Poland, the Baltic states, Central Asians and Turks.
        In the absence of a massive strike by Minuteman rockets, etc., the Russians will not respond to this, but will be caught off guard.


        Laugh, don’t laugh, but Putin said. That with a threat a preemptive strike can be delivered! The fact that the West in its stupid narcissism is not used to listening to someone is understandable. But you need to listen and hear your leader!
        1. Pinkie F.
          Pinkie F. 30 May 2016 11: 06
          -2
          Quote: bocsman
          and Putin said. That with a threat a preemptive strike can be delivered!

          in my opinion, this little Eun said.
      3. Wedmak
        Wedmak 30 May 2016 10: 45
        +3
        And, on day D, divisions of the USA and allies are massively transferred to the Baltic states and Poland. After the suppression by tomahawks from missile defense bases in Romania and Poland + ships from Aegis, missile silos of the Strategic Missile Forces of the Russian Federation + military targets, targeted attacks by tactical nuclear missiles and bombs are carried out on the territory of the Russian Federation.
        The air defense of the Russian Federation is out of order.

        So I think our General Staff does not sleep either. The early warning radars will surely detect the start of hundreds of tomahawks (and there is less sense, they will crush them), after which a skiff will step on the ABM bases. Ships from Aegis are also not immortal, each such ship near our borders is likely to be "led". The missile silos of the Strategic Missile Forces are well guarded, including from air attacks. Although it is impossible to hack the Stiletto or Warlord's PU with a tomahawk. Just a nuclear explosion with a direct hit in the manhole cover.
        And most interestingly, Russia has a doctrine on the use of vigorous weapons. And there it is written in black and white about the use of a preventive vigorous strike in case of a threat to the integrity of the country. The massive transfer of divisions to our borders and the unhealthy movement of the missile defense system will make clear about the plans.
        1. sgazeev
          sgazeev 30 May 2016 14: 33
          -1
          Each missile division has a battery on duty, and all other divisions. The saying is inappropriate here "The soldier is asleep, the service goes on" soldier
      4. Gray brother
        Gray brother 30 May 2016 11: 39
        +2
        Quote: mojohed2012
        After the suppression of tomahawks from missile defense bases in Romania and Poland + ships from Aegis, missile silos of the Strategic Missile Forces of the Russian Federation + military targets, targeted attacks by tactical nuclear missiles and bombs are carried out on the territory of the Russian Federation.

        How do they get such confidence that, after launching the axes, ICBMs will not fly in response?
        1. mojohed2012
          mojohed2012 30 May 2016 12: 24
          +4
          I just translated close to the text what was in the forum discussions of one "active" "strategist" who glorifies NATO and hates us Russians and Russia.
          In the EU and the States, there are simply millions of those who, listening to and listening to the propaganda of Obama and NATO, they unconditionally believe. So they write this.
          It seems to me that these discussions at the foreign forum are not very far from the real plans of NATO and the USA. Well, let them be superficial, but the concept is visible.
          1. sgazeev
            sgazeev 30 May 2016 14: 36
            +1
            Quote: mojohed2012
            I just translated close to the text what was in the forum discussions of one "active" "strategist" who glorifies NATO and hates us Russians and Russia.
            In the EU and the States, there are simply millions of those who, listening to and listening to the propaganda of Obama and NATO, they unconditionally believe. So they write this.
            It seems to me that these discussions at the foreign forum are not very far from the real plans of NATO and the USA. Well, let them be superficial, but the concept is visible.

            "Barborossa" will not be, the Balts and the Poles will be the first to burn. And the rest will have a few seconds to think about it.
            1. Corsair
              Corsair 30 May 2016 19: 12
              +1
              Quote: sgazeev
              "Barborossa" will not be, the Balts and the Poles will be the first to burn. And the rest will have a few seconds to think about it.

              There is a theme to burn first - Melkobritov, these will wait 20-30 minutes
      5. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 30 May 2016 11: 43
        +7
        "and Poland are being transferred en masse by divisions of the United States and allies" ////

        Absolutely unrealistic option.
        4 NATO battalions in the Baltic states will be deliberately destroyed earlier,
        than even the loading of NATO troops begins. No bridgehead will work.

        In general, such feints are completely not in the American style.
        First, the Americans long and patiently hammer out air defense, aviation, fuel depots, and enemy airfields. Until they achieve complete dominance in the air.
        For this, several aircraft carrier groups, dozens of missile destroyers, are fitted.
        And for all this, a lot of time is required.
        Only after this begins offensive ground operations.
        1. mojohed2012
          mojohed2012 30 May 2016 12: 35
          +5
          I agree with you in part. Because:
          1. The states have no other choice but to repeat the Wehrmacht’s blitzkrieg along with a massive missile strike. Because Russia can also answer with non-nuclear weapons that are in the border and at echelons + try to crush our strategic nuclear forces launch mines and try to target and hit ground strategic missile systems.
          We do not yet have an analogue of Aegis, and even C-400 has little to intercept non-hypersonic missiles. There are no analogues of their missile defense off the coast of the USA and their borders.
          2. There is no point in transferring troops to the border to the initial areas of the offensive bit by bit. They chose the path of the gradual accumulation of military equipment and weapons with fuel and ammunition depots in Eastern Europe. All that remains for them is just to massively transfer infantry divisions and aviation to border airfields. There are already tanks, the main thing is to bring the crew to him ... And we will not react to this at all. We will not be the first to hit at their bases, everything will be like June 22 41 of the year.
          3. Russia will not dare to launch a nuclear preemptive strike against the United States and NATO countries. although there is a preemptive strike strategy, in reality we are different. We cannot take on such a "sin".
          4. They will not be able to hammer air defenses for a long time. We have the possibility of defeating their weapons "that hammer our air defense 2, and we will drown them out. Therefore, they will climb overland. ISIS detachments led by the Turks and the Saudis and their camarilla from An-Nusra, etc." combat-ready, but small number of troops. ”We will not be allowed to carry out a full-scale mobilization.
          Conclusion: in the 41 year, our generals also thought that how in the 14 year it would be possible to stop the aggressor at the border and drag him into a trench positional war, and there the reserves would come up and break them with a single blow. But everything turned out differently. Much faster and worse.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 30 May 2016 14: 30
            +1
            "They chose the path of gradual accumulation of military equipment and weapons from
            warehouses of fuels and lubricants and ammunition in Eastern Europe "/////

            Doesn't fit. Russia is a continental country. To attack her territory
            very large (and trained) ground forces are needed. But NATO definitely does not have them. Neither close to Russian borders nor far. Absolutely not.
            I am not saying that NATO is weak. They have the strongest aviation and fleet (mainly the United States). They can inflict deep attacks on military facilities, factories for a long time, gradually destroy air defense and Russian aviation (having suffered serious losses themselves, of course).
            But even after that, a land invasion will surely be doomed to failure.
      6. Corsair
        Corsair 30 May 2016 19: 09
        0
        Quote: mojohed2012
        We laugh, but in NATO and the USA they think differently.

        what Well, for the most part it’s a laugh through the teeth, preparation is also being conducted on our part also for reflection, the only thing is to catch it on time, or to show the NATs such a wunderwafel that would discourage them from even wanting to come to us.
  10. Wedmak
    Wedmak 30 May 2016 09: 27
    +10
    Everything goes to the fact that having trained bases and battalions with tanks near our borders, they will provoke. At the same time, shouting to all newspapers and TV about aggressive Russia, which, in general, is already being done. Just tell me, who will then care about who first started? The fact that we can sneeze and sweep half of Europe off the map is obvious. And who will benefit from this, too. Do Europeans really not understand what they are putting on?
    1. Pavel Tsybai
      Pavel Tsybai 30 May 2016 10: 45
      +5
      Campaign will be provoked soon.
    2. Corsair
      Corsair 30 May 2016 19: 28
      0
      Quote: Wedmak
      The fact that we can sneeze and sweep half of Europe off the map is obvious. And who will benefit from this, too. Do Europeans really not understand what they are putting on?

      request So the task of the amers is not to save Europe, but to divert as much of our resources and missiles from ourselves as possible. Europe will be a victim, hundreds of unnecessary targets for our specialists. They will try to make some great Evil out of Russia - which they will come to extinguish in a crowd. Shlyakhi, Urks, Turks, Arabs, as well as Yapi, perhaps pragmatic China will sign this business by promising a part of Siberia (he is like a "friend" to us - but this is a temporary phenomenon). the Americans will cover everyone with aviation and thousands of hatchets, well, and nuclear strikes, their troops will then come to finish off if ours do not have time to cover them at home. Well, and the most important weapon is an attempt by the purchased people (large military) on the ground to sabotage the orders of the center, up to the destruction of the commanders.
  11. sergej30003
    sergej30003 30 May 2016 09: 32
    +4
    the adversaries are preparing to substitute their vassals under the meat grinder, it remains, as usual, a small provocation to commit such as in South Ossetia and blame Russia for all sins, if this is visible to a simple man in the street, then the leadership I hope will not miss the moment "scream"
  12. Mengad
    Mengad 30 May 2016 09: 33
    +6
    The Baltic states are stepping on the same rake as in the 1939th. Everyone knows what this led to.
  13. Camel
    Camel 30 May 2016 09: 36
    +4
    Yeah, like in that joke:
    Two battalions? with tanks and guns? Where are we going to bury you?
  14. Maxom75
    Maxom75 30 May 2016 09: 40
    +2
    Forget and don't strain. Our Armed Forces compensate for these "battalions" and, if necessary, will transfer them to the state of fertilizers. Let these from NATO spend money on the threat from Russia, in the meantime, their countries will be painted in the black and green color of Islam, brought from the Middle East. And one day they will all be offered to convert to Islam or die, then these battalions will be useful to us to defend ourselves against the European plague.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 30 May 2016 09: 49
      +3
      Forget and don't strain

      I wouldn’t do that. At this pace in Europe will soon be a bloody mess. And with or without our participation, how lucky. Kaby did not have to compensate for too many victims too big.
      1. Maxom75
        Maxom75 30 May 2016 09: 55
        +1
        From our discussion, nothing will change. And a couple of Iskander divisions without you and me will be placed where necessary. We must learn to trust professionals.
  15. Alex1313
    Alex1313 30 May 2016 09: 41
    +5
    What the x ... they are strengthening our defenses on our borders? England is an island, let them sit there. Carriers of shit democracy, enrages their stupidity
  16. Ros 56
    Ros 56 30 May 2016 09: 42
    +1
    If you put them on top of each other, the time will come and they will all remain there. Indeed, in the event of which no one will rassusolit with you, hundreds of missiles and a half to the country and there are no NATO tanks, and half of the tribalts, too. Well this is how lucky.
  17. oleggun
    oleggun 30 May 2016 09: 43
    +3
    I wonder how many nuclear charges in the event of aggression withstand the geyropa given its territory? You and I have where to retreat, but them?
    1. TOR2
      TOR2 30 May 2016 12: 38
      0
      And why immediately nuclear. Look at the objects of critical geyropa infrastructure. They do not know how to heat boiler houses with dry trees and dismantled fences.
  18. Samoyed
    Samoyed 30 May 2016 09: 47
    +5
    If in peacetime, NATO urinates on the Lithuanian flag, then why did they decide that they would shed blood for it?
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 30 May 2016 09: 54
      +2
      what will they shed blood for him?

      Why water? Arrange the main provocation, everything will go on there by itself.
  19. Tanya
    Tanya 30 May 2016 09: 58
    +6
    Nothing new. 3.15min - artillery preparation, bombardment, 4.00 - went tank wedges to Moscow. Following are the carts with ceremonial uniforms and special wagons with a white horse for the Fuhrer, who was about to host a parade in our capital. But something went wrong ...

    "Tell your Fuehrer that we are already in Budapest."
  20. pigkiller
    pigkiller 30 May 2016 10: 28
    +8
    NATO's iron is not as dangerous as the fifth column in our rear.
    1. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 30 May 2016 12: 45
      +2
      I agree. And most importantly, no one is voicing yesterday's meeting of Putin with Kudrin's presence. There, Kudrin suggested that Russia "lower the degree of opposition to the EU and the United States." In other words - Give up part of the sovereignty and return the Crimea.
  21. V.ic
    V.ic 30 May 2016 10: 33
    +1
    In a word: “gather the girls in a bunch, wait for you to Chuchu“ otchuchu. ”Let the troops pull together. By this time, our trade is still riveting“ Caliber ”.caliberwe run away once.
  22. 31rus2
    31rus2 30 May 2016 11: 06
    +2
    Dear ones, seriously, the reinforcement is already underway by the advanced units, that is, the obvious threat of war, albeit psychological so far, but rather unpleasant, to the information from the president, only 47% of the models of modern technology are now in service, i.e. one hope for nuclear weapons, of course I would like to hear in response Russia has deployed a brigade "Yars" against Great Britain
  23. Pinkie F.
    Pinkie F. 30 May 2016 11: 14
    -3
    All right, Khan's adversary. Telegram to Putin: "Comrade Commander-in-Chief Voskl enthusiastically greeted the news of the redeployment of the British tactical group.
  24. Verdun
    Verdun 30 May 2016 11: 21
    0
    “London plans to send a tank tactical group, which will also be equipped with artillery”
    There is a suspicion that no one will send "Challengers" to the Baltic States. For the backyards of Europe and "Scorpion" is also a tank.
  25. volodya
    volodya 30 May 2016 11: 35
    +1
    From the arrogant Saxons we did not expect anything else!
  26. Tanya
    Tanya 30 May 2016 12: 33
    +1
    Quote: Pinky F.
    All right, Khan's adversary. Telegram to Putin: "Comrade Commander-in-Chief Voskl enthusiastically greeted the news of the redeployment of the British tactical group.


    As for me personally, the duffel bag ("a spoon, a mug, a pot and food for a day") is assembled, there is also a military ID and father's medals. Where my strike line will be - in the kitchen or SME (VUS) - it's not for me to decide. Perhaps the fighting spirit will last for a few minutes sad but I don’t see other options, in which case.
    1. TOR2
      TOR2 30 May 2016 13: 10
      -2
      Quote: Tanya
      but I don’t see other options, in which case

      There is an option to blow up the "Kuzkina mother" next to the norgs, so that the wreckage of the oil platforms, together with the mattress fleet that came up, would be somewhere near Greenland. It will be a simultaneous blow to all (NATO) members. If the commodity markets do not start to fever, we increase the effect by erasing one of the island states of the Persian Gulf from the map. Technically, all this is real and quite environmentally friendly.
      1. Tanya
        Tanya 30 May 2016 14: 22
        +2
        Near the Norgs - my Homeland - the Kola Peninsula, the most beautiful place on Earth. The minus is not mine, but I am against. hi
        1. TOR2
          TOR2 30 May 2016 14: 52
          0
          Nothing will happen to your homeland. An explosion does not have to be atmospheric. Look at the map, the towers are covered amazingly, without harm to their own territory. And on the plus side, there are also enough mattresses here. smile For example, you have stated your point of view, so + mine.
          1. Tanya
            Tanya 30 May 2016 15: 26
            0
            I’m not a strategist, but I think that it is necessary to beat the instigator, and then the members of the gang, left without a leader, will either scatter in different directions, or bake loaves and learn the Russian Anthem. request
  27. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 30 May 2016 12: 54
    0
    Quote: AnpeL
    I wonder why I have a flag, Moldovan felts, Romanian felts, although I myself am writing from the Urals. Maybe this is an unofficial banner of the Ural land ?? Admins ??

    Zemlya, are you leaving the Ural-Megafon by chance? I am from him and have the same sadness, I see my IP as my own, and VO distorts it in a strange way. The admin does not respond to the problem, so just check the box.
  28. demos1111
    demos1111 30 May 2016 12: 57
    0
    Good day. Their history does not teach. Us too not absolutely. They constantly beat us, we fend off with huge losses in the economy and people. Maybe enough, maybe you should hit first. There is currently a unique historical chance to split NATO. There was an article by Dushenov about hypersound. After all, you can create not large aviation missiles with hypersonic parts and make a preemptive strike. Kill the entire commanding leadership of the European Union. After all, it’s so clear that Europe is a six or a pawn for mattresses, someone like it. Nobody has ever died or even set up his life because of sixes. The mattresses will not start a nuclear war if we take and knock out their rotten European governments. They have nothing to cover now. If they now had such a weapon, turn it would be fucking right after they were prepared. I already said something like that here at VO, you are not ready psychologically, although almost ready technologically. I believe you will mature. After the events in Ukraine, changes are noticeable. Good luck to you!
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. 30 May 2016 13: 09
      +1
      Quote: demos1111
      Maybe enough, maybe you should hit first ... a chance to split NATO ... about hypersound. After all, you can create not large aviation missiles with hypersonic parts and make a preemptive strike ... Knock out the entire command

      what nonsense?
      Quote: demos1111
      you are not ready psychologically, although almost technologically ready. I believe you will mature. Good luck to you!

      as I understand it, you are tempting us, and you’re going to sit here with popcorn:
  29. Skubudu
    Skubudu 30 May 2016 13: 41
    -3
    I think we need to start mass production of Cornets and Pussy-willows, one-time RPGs and RMBs, and introduce them to the masses. And the production from central Russia should not be transported to the interior of the Ural Mountains.
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. 30 May 2016 13: 52
      -1
      Quote: Skubudu
      disposable RPGs and RMBs, well, to introduce to the masses.

      it's five. I represent grandmothers with RPGs at the doghouse. And on the Moscow Ring Road there will generally be a steaming cemetery of cars.
      Quote: Skubudu
      And the production from central Russia should not be transported to the interior of the Ural Mountains.

      pralna, and chernozem there too. But the cows on their own may not reach.
  30. Hypocrite
    Hypocrite 30 May 2016 14: 10
    0
    It is believed that the Britons did not stop at the listed weapons in the Baltic states. One tank was shown during the day, and 3 more were dragged at night.
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. 30 May 2016 14: 13
      -2
      Quote: Hange
      One tank was shown during the day, and 3 more were dragged at night.

      why the hell is such a conspiracy to them?
  31. Briz
    Briz 30 May 2016 19: 40
    -1
    Quote: CORNET
    We never took London ... Think Naglosaksa carefully, there you have a lot of our thieves hiding! Do not anger the Russian bear, for God's sake!
    Scotland has not changed its mind there yet to separate ...? We can help in organizing the referendum of the next!

    Ah Cornet, you reminded me that: in the beginning of the 19th century, the advanced part of the Russians studied French: as a result, we took Paris and freed Europe from the tyrant, in the beginning of the 20th century the Russians studied mostly German ..., yes, in 45m we entered Berlin and again freed Europe from the tyrant ... Now we pay more attention to the English language, and here the liberation of the world is pulling ..., we just have no other choice ... London ... Chi Washington (and how are they still not afraid ... or have they not read the story?)
  32. Briz
    Briz 30 May 2016 19: 59
    0
    Quote: mojohed2012
    At least laugh ... I don’t understand - why the Balts on that parade - from which the photo is above - drove "flyers" carrying model aircraft. Well, there is no air force of its own - well, why disgrace yourself? it's just nonsense and wildness. It turns out not a parade, but a show of a circle of model constructors - a costume of a flying Latvian.

    You underestimate their insidiousness ... They almost certainly know that we will not soon recover from laughter, so they hope to have time for something.