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GBV. Withdraw the troops. Order. Part of 1

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9 May 1992. Germany. Vitstock city. Military part 52029.

- Come on! Attention!

It was the last Victory Day that Soviet soldiers and officers celebrated in the former territory of the GDR. The military unit 52029 remained several months before being sent home, to the east. They saluted the flag of a country that had not existed for half a year. A small island of a collapsed empire lived out its last days in a suburb of Berlin. After six months, these soldiers, warrant officers and officers will be transferred to Tambov, or rather, thrown into a clean field without shelter, food and money. But now, 9 May 1992, they don’t know about it yet. Their grandfathers returned home from the front, their grandchildren will return to nowhere.

31 August 1994 of the year. Berlin. From now on, it’s customary to talk about our group of Western troops in Germany only in the past tense.

The Western Group of Forces has long been a state within a state.

GBV. Withdraw the troops. Order. Part of 1


Today, few people know that during the Potsdam Conference, Joseph Stalin urged not to divide Germany into different states and the division of Germany considered it almost the main political mistake.

The conference began in mid-July, it was hot not only in the street, but also at the round table where participants gathered. World politics is often compared to a chess game. This is partly true. After all, each player seeks to achieve an advantage over the enemy. But politics is smarter and more cunning than an ordinary chess game. In each game there are several grandmasters, each of which plays his debut, his own final victory plan.

Also, few people know that the so-called military liaison missions of groups of occupation forces have arrived in Potsdam. Their functions included the quick communication of important information for solving joint tasks. And there are many interesting and often curious facts associated with these communications missions.



The servicemen of the occupational group of Britain began to play football in the territory of the historic site. This was reported to Zhukov. He called Field Marshal Montgomery and said that we did not free Germany for this, in order to destroy her later. Employees of the British military communications mission could not forgive such intervention and decided to take revenge on New Year's Eve: they planted a pig with an inscription on the side of the “USSR” on the territory where the representative office of the Soviet communications mission was located.

Teutonic belligerence did not fade after defeat in World War II. Many generals of the German Wehrmacht again put on military uniforms. In the 1949 year, in violation of the agreements of the Potsdam Conference, a new state is being created - the FRG.

And on October 7, 1949, together with the formation of the GDR, the Group of Soviet Forces in Germany (GSVG) was born. Over the next 45 years, about 8 million Soviet soldiers and officers will serve in it. The GSVG, which would later be renamed the Western Group of Forces (ZGV), will be the largest military group in the world among those who were located outside their own country.

Service in the western group of troops was considered prestigious. For example, Gennady Zyuganov got into the intelligence service, was engaged in the fight against the atomic, chemical and bacteriological weapons.

Mikhail Yakovlevich Shkurin lived to a significant 70-year anniversary. He was born 28 August victorious for our country 1945 year on the farm Gormilovskiy in the family of rural workers. Like many farm boys, after the age of eight, Misha studied at a vocational school as a tractor driver-generalist. Before the army, he managed to work in the fields of the local Lenin collective farm on the crawler DT-54. Before the service itself, Shkurin was sent from the military registration and enlistment office to the Chertkovsky autoclub for driver courses. Since then, the driver's specialty became for him the main for many years.

Today, he warmly recalls not only production, but also his service in the Group of Soviet Forces in Germany, which took place from September 1964 to December 1967. The starting point was the town of Uryupinsk, where the new recruits were given a new form and sent to the west in warm houses. Nine days later, Shkurin and his colleagues landed in Frankfurt an der Oder. Mikhail, who had a six-month driver’s experience, was assigned to the only automobile regiment of the GSVG, which served the headquarters of the group of forces deployed in the Kummersdorf Guth garrison.

After the course of the young fighter, driver retraining and the kilometer-long 500 march, the tractor tractor Shkurin was assigned a ZIL-164 base truck.

During the service, he proved himself to be an exemplary soldier, became an excellent student of combat and political training. As a result, he was entrusted with a reference car GAZ-63 with a kun, equipped for the transportation of part banner. According to the results of the final test for the exemplary maintenance of equipment and weapons, Mikhail Shkurin was encouraged by an 10-day home leave. During his service, he was often thanked and encouraged with sightseeing trips to the sights of Berlin. Mikhail remembered the ceremonial award in 1965 with the jubilee medal “Twenty Years of Victory in the Great Patriotic War 1941-1945”.

“After the service, I had long dreamed of army everyday life, evening walks with songs, roll call before the rebound, fellow soldiers, with whom I endured all the service and deprivation of service,” recalls Mikhail Yakovlevich. During the years of our service, representatives of many nationalities were friends and comrades among themselves.

Today he has with whom to share his memories during the joint activities of the GSVG veterans.

Turn again to stories.

Initially, the tasks of the western Soviet front were formulated very clearly - preparation for the conduct of offensive operations. It was a powerful military fist. This fist, even in autonomous mode of action, was able to demolish all of NATO's battle formations on the way to the English Channel. In the event of war, this was the main task of the Soviet troops.



In the summer of 1945, the Soviet occupation forces, as they were officially called then, began to rebuild destroyed Berlin: factories, bakeries, and apartment buildings were rebuilt anew. Soviet troops were both a construction brigade, and medical personnel, and a peacekeeping army. Although once an order was issued on the use of military force. On June 17, 1953, when an uprising of German workers erupted in the eastern sector of Berlin, Soviet troops were advanced to combat positions. Tanks. It would be enough 10 minutes to clear the territory from rebellious people. But the GSVG command refused to shoot the workers. The reaction from Moscow followed immediately: Soviet officers who did not obey the order of the Kremlin were shot at the personal order of Lavrenty Beria. A modest gravestone will be installed at the place of their mass grave only after 40 years.

Largely due to the presence of this powerful group, it was possible to keep the world from a military catastrophe.

In Wünsdorf was the "heart" of the western group of troops. A quiet German town was not rarely at the forefront of military history: it was predicted to be the capital of Kaiser Germany before the First World War, then they wanted to make it the capital of the Weimar Republic under the elderly Reich President Hindenburg. And when the Nazis came, they fell in love with this detached city because it was possible to hold sports and military games here. It also developed the 1936 Olympics of the year. But not by the number of medals the Fuhrer is remembered, but by completely different memorable signs.

The city was surrounded by a high wall and became closed to the eyes of others. The territory of Wünsdorf was divided into military camps - first, second, third. The length of the Wünsdorf garrison is five kilometers, the width is two. Here at the time of the departure of the Soviet troops there were more than 500 different buildings. The 30 000 people lived here, and at the end of November 1995 left around 15 000. The garrison was autonomous: its own bakery, its own medical facilities, equipped with the latest equipment, spacious bright schools and even its own railway station. Every day, he left the train to Moscow.

Here was based the headquarters of the Western Group of Forces, which built relations with the leadership of the Federal Republic of Germany, the German Democratic Republic and other government missions. The holy of holies of the headquarters was located deep under the ground, where six more underground floors, built back in the 30 years, were hidden. Concrete has become a monocrystal and is almost indestructible. It was here that the German land headquarters was located, where a plan was prepared for the preparation of an attack on the USSR Barbarossa. But it can be seen that fate decreed, but it was in this building that the headquarters of the winners of that war was located. And after the departure of the western group of troops, two German businessmen created the “Garrison Museum” here, where excursions are held regularly. Especially tourists like the mysterious Zeppelin bunker, which was the brain center of the German army.

In memory of the half-century Soviet presence in Eastern Europe, there will be scattered throughout Germany the graves of the Second World War, which we won in 1945, and the times of the Cold War, which we lost in 1989, after the collapse of the Berlin Wall. And also - monuments.



The well-known song dedicated to the dead pilots in the Western Group of Forces Yuri Yanov and Boris Kapustin, who took the falling plane from West Berlin, is well known to all. The plane fell into the lake Shössensee. And when our curious allies decided to check what equipment was installed on the fallen plane, they discovered that this equipment had already been removed by someone. According to sources, this was done by military liaison missions.

A few years ago, the Germans erected a monument to two dead Soviet pilots. Before him there are always fresh flowers.



The selfless act shook the Germans. At the cost of their own lives, Soviet pilots rescued those who had recently fought on the fields of the Great Patriotic War. But the German public was amazed at the news of the withdrawal.

The airfield of 16-th Air Army, where Yanov and Kaputin served, was one of the last to become empty. How and why did the victorious forces withdraw from the defeated country?

Who made the decision on the withdrawal of troops? What was the reason for this decision, which resulted in the betrayal of national interests?

“We discussed at the Politburo,” Mikhail Gorbachev said in one of his interviews today. “All were in favor, for,” he repeats twice.

26 January 1990 of the year in a closed meeting, which lasted about two hours, in the office of Mikhail Gorbachev the Western Group of Forces was actually signed a death sentence. Also at this meeting, suddenly, a proposal was made to unite Germany. And in the resolution of this decision it was written that it is necessary to prepare for the withdrawal of troops. Logically, this question should have been raised by the Germans, either on the part of the GDR, or on the part of the FRG, but by no means the Soviet government headed by Gorbachev. At the discussion of the so-called German problem was attended by only a few people. There were neither Foreign Ministry officials, nor the Ministry of Defense, nor the Soviet ambassador to the GDR. German Chancellor Helmut Kohl was in direct communication with Gorbachev. Gorbachev told him: "Give me 40,5 a billion marks, I have nothing to feed the people, and tomorrow you will get everything you want." This phrase was especially clearly remembered by a member of the secretariat of the Soviet government.

Moscow’s unilateral decision to withdraw troops from the GDR, without exaggeration, surprised the whole world. The Kremlin agreed to withdraw 600 thousands of people in just four years. While the United States agreed to remove all 60 thousands within seven years.

Arkhyz A small resort in the Stavropol region. It was there that 16 July 1990 should be continued negotiations between the teams of the President of the USSR and the Chancellor of Germany. But for this it was necessary to finish the bargaining. The Soviet Union was ready to exchange political influence for economic assistance from the alliance of a uniting Germany. The main role at the auction was played by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the USSR. When Shevardnadze came to the negotiations, he asked for a large loan to the country - 20 billion. How was it possible to keep a tough position at the negotiations and at the same time ask for loans? The amount of compensation for the withdrawal of the Western group of troops was taken almost from the "ceiling". The Soviet side asked 40 billion German marks in the hope of getting 10 billion, but as soon as possible.

Came the day of negotiations in Arkhyz. The main question is: how much time is needed in order to technically withdraw the troops, in order to build apartments for officers and officers, and barracks for military personnel. The Germans agreed to finance the construction program in the amount of 14 billion marks. Although today the Soviet negotiators claim that if the Soviet side requested ten times more, it would have received so much.

All the property of military units - airfields, bases, communications centers, buildings, residential buildings, sanatoriums - remained on the German side. According to rough estimates, at the end of the 90s, the property of the western group of troops consisted of about one thousand airfields, testing grounds, of vast extent, dozens of military hospitals.



An interesting detail. The amount of the transaction is still unknown. The contract was so hastily concluded in the Kremlin that the participants called the sum completely different: 14 billion German marks, 13 billion or 80 billion.

To be continued ...
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  1. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 2 June 2016 06: 45
    +20
    I read the article and there was a lump in my throat ... Vitstock ... 2 times there in the hospital lay. There was also a regiment of fighter-interceptors, constantly noise from the working engines of the duty unit. Our airfield in Lerz (Neubrandenburg district). An airplane named "Sergeant" is taxiing. Eh-he, such a group was! I served in V.ch. p / n 58718. GSVGeshniki! There is someone on the forum, hey !!!
    1. Avenich
      Avenich 2 June 2016 07: 02
      +13
      Quote: LÄRZ
      GSVGeshniki! There is someone on the forum, hey !!!

      It was a long time ago, 1985. Winsdorf town, I forgot the part number. Infantryman. He traveled fairly well at the first BMP bag in the forests, fields, and training grounds of Germany. Constant exercises, constant check of combat readiness. I tried to look for places of service on Google, everything was abandoned, even some places were overgrown with forest.
      1. LÄRZ
        LÄRZ 2 June 2016 08: 26
        +8
        Quote: Avenich
        It has long been, 1985.

        Hey !!! And I'm 1980-1982.
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        2. sichevik
          sichevik 2 June 2016 20: 38
          +1
          Quote: LÄRZ
          Quote: Avenich
          It has long been, 1985.

          Hey !!! And I'm 1980-1982.

          All greetings to GSVGshnikam !!! 1983-1985 city of Jena.
      2. japs
        japs 2 June 2016 13: 51
        +9
        1984-1986 Wünsdorf 7th dep. PU GSVG, then Eberswalde headquarters of the 20 TA Guards. Prior to that, 10 years with parents: Hillersleben (Magdeburg), Potsdam (editorial office of the newspaper "Soviet Army"), Bernau (headquarters of 6 TD). There is something to remember.
    2. Vik66
      Vik66 2 June 2016 10: 16
      +12
      Military unit 83149, GRU special forces, Neutimmen 84-86 smile
      1. Mik13
        Mik13 2 June 2016 11: 38
        +14
        On 17 of June 1953, when an uprising of German workers broke out in the eastern sector of Berlin, Soviet tanks were put up for battle. 10 minutes would be enough to clear the territory of rebellious people. But the GSVG command refused to shoot the workers. The reaction from Moscow followed immediately: Soviet officers who did not obey the order of the Kremlin were shot at the personal order of Lavrenty Beria. A modest gravestone will be installed at the site of their mass grave only after 40 years.

        Yes, write right away - gobbled up alive. Together with families. They wrote about Beria and not that ...

        The story of the shooting of Soviet troops during the 1953 riots is nothing more than a legend. Same as 2 million raped German women. And from the same source.
        And there are plenty of materials on this subject.
        Narpimer:
        Since the 1991 year, a deputy of the Berlin City Council, Gunter Töpfer, has been trying to establish the names of 18 of the executed soldiers and the place of their burial ... From the Chief Military Prosecutor's Office of the Russian Federation they replied that this information was not found in the archives.
        http://vpk-news.ru/articles/7178

        I recommend that the author carefully check the information.
        1. japs
          japs 2 June 2016 14: 02
          +15
          All the bullshit about the presence of the Soyet Army in the GDR was inflated by the press and TV of Germany. Whoever watched TV in Germany at that time should still remember Lev Kopylev, the host of a program about the "atrocities" of Russians in Germany. This traitor served as an interpreter in the Red Army.
          These 2 million raped Germans and girls in Germany and East Prussia went from him.
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    3. dkflbvbh
      dkflbvbh 2 June 2016 14: 26
      +5
      1991 PRTB - Hohenlyaypish, 1991-1993 16th Guards. TD - Neustrelitz.

      I remember when I arrived in Frankfurt an der Oder (transfer), I was invited to an interview before being assigned to the unit (although the order was in my pocket), such an important lieutenant colonel is sitting, asking questions:
      - Communist?
      - No...
      - Komsomolets?
      - No...
      His eyes are widening, his jaw is dropping slowly ...
      - And how did you get to Germany? Who sent you? ..
      I still remember with a laugh ...
    4. jurikberlin
      jurikberlin 2 June 2016 15: 01
      +4
      there is the GSVG 86-88. a separate communications battalion in Dresden.
      1. Slavs69
        Slavs69 3 June 2016 07: 34
        0
        87-89 Elstal, then Rathenov. 67 air defense brigade. Business trips to Vogelsang to one of the divisions .... It was nice ....
    5. Petr petrov
      Petr petrov 2 June 2016 19: 02
      +5
      And what else to call a hunchback ... ...... how not a traitor !!!!!!!
      Author Polina Efimova about the shooting of course bent ....... how much you can retell libroid nonsense !!!! 1
  2. Stormtrooper
    Stormtrooper 2 June 2016 06: 50
    +23
    No matter how many chronicles I read, no matter how many documentaries I watch about the events of the end of the 80s and the beginning of the 90s, but every time as for the first time - shock, bewilderment, misunderstanding.
    No matter how powerful the Armed Forces of the Country may be, no matter how firmly the Power may be, a handful of high-ranking traitors can steal everything. And today this question is no less relevant ...
    1. Leto
      Leto 2 June 2016 07: 36
      +9
      Quote: Stormtrooper
      No matter how powerful the Armed Forces of the Country may be, no matter how firmly the Power may be, a handful of high-ranking traitors can steal everything. And today this question is no less relevant ...

      If the people do not care, then a handful of crooks can do whatever they want. What now to lament.
      1. Stormtrooper
        Stormtrooper 2 June 2016 08: 03
        +10
        Just the people did not care, the results of the referendum on the preservation of the USSR on March 17, 1991 clearly hinted at this, but by that time the people had not decided anything. Although you are right in part, the people realized when the kidneys had already flown away.
        Khrushchev began to gag, out of ignorance or malice I can’t assert (or, perhaps, both), Brezhnev, while he was in his right mind and sober memory, somehow tried to fix the rest of the order of things, and Gorbachishka , already with full awareness, completely breaking through.
        1. dkflbvbh
          dkflbvbh 2 June 2016 14: 32
          +3
          This clearly demonstrates that the nouveau riche who have reached the authorities do not care about the people ... By the way, this clearly shows the referendum in Holland. Now, if the people (as it is now in France) took to the streets against the collapse of the USSR, then the history of the country could have continued ... And so it was nice to everyone ... So they did to the country what they wanted ...
        2. Lexa-149
          Lexa-149 2 June 2016 18: 12
          +1
          "Misha the marked" traded half of the country for the Nobel Prize, and Borya the drunk stupidly drank the rest of it.
          My father served in the artillery regiment in Alteslager. In Germany he met my mother. Then I was born and lived there as a baby until my father was replaced in Kaliningrad.
    2. Red_Hamer
      Red_Hamer 2 June 2016 10: 36
      +4
      And I remember that, I don't even need to read the chronicles, and to this day, such bitterness in my soul! This is what is called to the soul (***) of the whole people of a great country, to shit! And the leadership (a handful of those who climbed high) did it with their people! The common people, and their opinion, are simply "put"!
  3. Mangel olys
    Mangel olys 2 June 2016 06: 55
    +7
    Thanks for the memory.
    - After the service, I dreamed for a long time about army everyday life, evening walks with songs, roll call before the end,anthem of the Soviet Union, fellow friends, with whom I endured all the hardships and deprivations of service, ”recalls Mikhail Yakovlevich.“ During our service, representatives of many nationalities were friends and comrades among themselves.

    Emergency service in the eighties, Borstel. Company guard helicopter regiment. It was difficult, but now, with age, oh, how I want to return these difficulties.
  4. cobalt
    cobalt 2 June 2016 07: 48
    +2
    My father served in Burg, in a motorized rifle regiment, watched a video, only the headquarters building and 1 barracks remained from the regiment, Germans living in Kazakhstan and Russia live. In one town, former artists of the circus of the GDR were resettled in residential buildings, but the second town, where we lived, was transformed so that I did not recognize it. Local Germans settled there, called the street - Einsteinstrasse. Nothing remained of the 1 dshb buildings. Something like that.
  5. Aleksandr72
    Aleksandr72 2 June 2016 07: 52
    +29
    The hasty withdrawal of Soviet (and then Russian troops) from Eastern Europe and Germany, in particular, more like flight, is that you can never forgive either Gorbachev or Yeltsin - these political prostitutes and the Jews who did everything to humiliate so hard won international authority to a negative value.
    At one time, I had great chances to get to serve in the Western Military Forces, but I decided to enroll in a military school. And then there were well-known events and countries under the name of the USSR did not. Who knows how my life and fate would have developed like the fate of my peers throughout our vast country, if not for this collusion of the first and last president of the USSR with the West. Judah brilliantly fulfilled his 30 pieces of silver.
    1. python2a
      python2a 2 June 2016 15: 30
      0
      Not those Stalin put to the wall.
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  7. igorra
    igorra 2 June 2016 08: 06
    +1
    But I didn’t have a chance. After this betrayal, our engineering team was sent by the military commissar to the MBO. He served in the Smolensk region. He served for two whole days due to the rejection of the demobel chord.
  8. cesar65
    cesar65 2 June 2016 09: 31
    +6
    Frankfurt an der Oder, military unit 07694 top squad 1983-1985 autumn. After the withdrawal, the detachment was disbanded, the only top squad awarded the military order.
  9. Poppy
    Poppy 2 June 2016 09: 43
    +6
    for this alone Gorbachev is worthy of execution
    and he did more
  10. 2sila
    2sila 2 June 2016 10: 04
    +5
    The Germans threw all our abandoned economy. Was there in 2014 and Ohh ..... Canteen, barracks.
    1. 2sila
      2sila 2 June 2016 10: 05
      +2
      Abandoned dining room building.
  11. runway
    runway 2 June 2016 10: 31
    +14
    Olympishdorf 1989 - 1991.
    I saw with my own eyes this shame called "withdrawal of troops":
    - how expensive infrastructure was stolen;
    - how high chiefs, for the sake of promotion and getting high ranks, sought to report to their higher authorities about the "early withdrawal" of troops under their command;
    - how at night the families of officers were loaded onto trucks and taken to Wünsdorf, after having selected passports;
    - how inhospitable the Motherland met its defenders ....
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 2 June 2016 10: 54
      -9
      But we must admit that the troops went corrupted (from the Soviet times they received Western marks after the fall of the German Democratic Republic) There was complete chaos in the Homeland itself, there was no one to reproach them for sure. By the way, all categories of servicemen took part in looting. real light-finisher.
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 2 June 2016 11: 57
      +1
      It turns out that many officers were rotten? After all, they began their careers in the days of the USSR and the CPSU.
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 2 June 2016 12: 06
        +1
        And what is unusual here? for example, the current leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - all former members of the CPSU, graduated from Soviet military schools and academies
    3. iouris
      iouris 2 June 2016 13: 26
      0
      Maybe we should admit that it was no longer the homeland?
      On the other hand, if we were to argue "by concepts" (according to Gorbachev's logic), if a car was driven from Germany to the Union twice a year (at that time), then every time it was possible to "take" a 3-room apartment (for example, in Lipetsk in 1992, there were such proposals for an apartment for a "Zhigul"). There were many "honest, but stupid" (Zhirik).
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 2 June 2016 13: 32
        -9
        And not the troops - a real rabble, everyone was transferring somewhere, quitting, scattering, waiting for some orders.
  12. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 2 June 2016 11: 08
    +6
    1973 year ..... Yoterbog ..... I was born there))))) It is recorded in the Potsdam commandant’s office and in the passport, Potsdam, GDR))))
    1. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 3 June 2016 00: 11
      +1
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      1973 year ..... Yoterbog ..... I was born there))))) It is recorded in the Potsdam commandant’s office and in the passport, Potsdam, GDR))))

      Similarly, Andrew.
      The city recorded in my birth certificate does not correspond at all to the city where the hospital is located ... ahem, in which I was born.
      Well, the house of my parents, that is, the military unit, was in a completely different city ...)))
      But this - GSVG !!! Pride for life.
      1971g.
      laughing
      I press a paw.
      drinks

      And the hunchback ... for the collapse of the strongest group of forces of the globe - to be castrated for twenty-five years in a row using a doselnik for the intended purpose of the most grendelnupen glands.
      And this is his first stage with the devils.
  13. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 2 June 2016 11: 10
    +8
    Do you remember, dear Formucans, what crazy scandals in the press the conclusion was accompanied by, an article about the gold toilet of the commander of that group of ZGV and his son ... Pasha Mercedes, remember ... and Kholodov, in my opinion, also did this, journalist, which blew up ..... tons of contraband transported by the BTA ..... corrupt generals, colonels .... not all, of course not all, grabbed as they could ... the last hapok ..... and Gorbachev .... . before my eyes so far, the Far East, far beyond the city of Khabarovsk, tents and tanks ... some were taken out of Germany .. and in the snow and rain ... tents and tanks and there people ...
    1. Army soldier2
      Army soldier2 2 June 2016 12: 35
      +7
      But everyone loved both Gorbachev (the word "ringing" was spoken with an emphasis on the last syllable - the cleverest intellectual) and Yeltsin (such a man, he would drink a liter of vodka and whatever). And no one stood up to defend the USSR in the presence of 17 million members of the CPSU, the five million army and the KGB.
      They themselves asked ... whether, and now no one admits that he was the defender of the White House and has the corresponding medal.
      1. python2a
        python2a 2 June 2016 15: 37
        +9
        At the shows in Soviet times, our political workers demanded the oath of knowledge by heart, and how it came to fulfillment in 1991, not a single bastard remembered.
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  15. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 2 June 2016 11: 46
    0
    The pages of our History ....... sad pages- displayed quickly and ugly and all for the sake of the West ... Thanks for the article by Pauline.
  16. iouris
    iouris 2 June 2016 11: 46
    +1
    We are waiting for stories about the withdrawal of troops from Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia.
  17. creak
    creak 2 June 2016 11: 49
    +6
    I would like to know on what the author’s claim is based on the fact that the GSVG command refused to shoot the insurgent workers?
    For the first time I hear that the Commander-in-Chief of the GSVG, Marshal Grechko, refused to comply with the order of Moscow. Perhaps for this he was later appointed Minister of Defense of the USSR?
    There was no refusal and disobedience, and there couldn’t be, and the troops, in accordance with the situation, used weapons to kill, there were victims ...
    Everything was serious enough there.
    And I didn’t even want to comment on the fact that they could disperse the rebels in 10 minutes (it was smooth on paper) - all centers of resistance were finally cleared only by June 20 ...
    Well, the passage about the allegedly shot officers, to put it mildly, gossip at the level of word of mouth (there is no documentary evidence of this).
    I had occasion to communicate in participants in those events (including being in Wünsdorf) - I had never heard anything like it from them ...
    After all, the article is not intended for the school wall newspaper, but for a site on which there are many former and active military personnel - this must be taken into account ...
  18. Forester
    Forester 2 June 2016 11: 56
    +6
    Quote: Andrey VOV
    1973 year ..... Yoterbog ..... I was born there))))) It is recorded in the Potsdam commandant’s office and in the passport, Potsdam, GDR))))

    And I was in 1977 in Magdeburg! Many still ask where it is.
  19. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 2 June 2016 11: 58
    +3
    I have great doubts about the veracity of the story here about the shooting of officers on Beria’s personal order.
  20. Max40
    Max40 2 June 2016 14: 55
    0
    In the last photo. What kind of equipment in which there are 4 pieces in a row?
    1. jurikberlin
      jurikberlin 2 June 2016 15: 15
      0
      like something, to overcome the ditches, but rivulets.
    2. Lexa-149
      Lexa-149 2 June 2016 18: 27
      +1
      This is, along the way, GSP. Crawler Self-propelled Ferry
  21. Ivan Ivanych
    Ivan Ivanych 2 June 2016 15: 21
    0
    Gorbachev must be judged. It is not necessary to close, but to give a political assessment of the actions of him and his associates. This is a betrayal and qualifies accordingly
  22. Idiot
    Idiot 2 June 2016 16: 12
    +2
    Again Beria. Probably, if there was no phrase about Beria, the article would not be relevant. Zadolbali these historical historians!
  23. Eustace
    Eustace 2 June 2016 16: 33
    +4
    How is the land of this traitor Gorbachev M.S. still wears. She and Shevardnadze are the main traitors in the history of the USSR. soldier
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  26. proud
    proud 2 June 2016 22: 47
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    An interesting but sad article! The story of the conclusion of the GBV is another example of how much the country and our army as a whole were betrayed! The history of the World did not know such examples before, and I hope it will never know after! One thing is surprising: In any other country, it would certainly be lynched, in Russia he lived quietly for several years without distress and even worked for some time on TV, after which he calmly left for Germany and lives there to this day, and millions of citizens of whose country he ruled and brought to collapse for a very long time they will disentangle the consequences of this betrayal! In a word, I hate this tagged one!
  27. esaul1950
    esaul1950 2 June 2016 22: 52
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    Quote: bober1982
    But we must admit that the troops went corrupted (from the Soviet times they received Western marks after the fall of the German Democratic Republic) There was complete chaos in the Homeland itself, there was no one to reproach them for sure. By the way, all categories of servicemen took part in looting. real light-finisher.

    You're lying gnida, I left Weimar in the summer of 1991.
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 3 June 2016 04: 00
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      Don't be so nervous.
  28. praide
    praide 3 June 2016 20: 40
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    Quote: Army 2
    They themselves asked ... whether, and now no one admits that he was the defender of the White House and has the corresponding medal.

    He stood and taxied for 3 days with a barricade in PPP. There were amazingly bright people. And the fact that the EBN has spoiled the country a lot .... There were no other options, well, if only Khasbulat was daring. Yes, medals were given to those who had almost nothing to do with this.
  29. Sakkai
    Sakkai 4 June 2016 00: 09
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    Quote: Eustace
    How is the land of this traitor Gorbachev M.S. still wears. She and Shevardnadze are the main traitors in the history of the USSR. soldier

    plus.