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More than 2 thousand tons of scrap metal will be exported from the Arctic islands

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Special units for the elimination of environmental damage in the Arctic will be removed from the northern islands more than 2-thousand tons of black scrap metal, transfers RIA News the message of the military prosecutor of the SF Andrei Popov.




“We fundamentally ask the command for the results of work to eliminate the accumulated environmental damage of the past years. Collecting and recycling scrap metal, disposing of empty containers from fuel, dismantling buildings that are unsuitable for further use, recycling construction waste, ”said Popov at a meeting at the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation.

“In total, this year it is planned to export more than 2 thousand tons of ferrous metal from the islands in the Arctic zone, last year more than 1,5 thousand were taken out,” he said.

In turn, Prosecutor General Yuri Chaika supported the increase in the pace of work and instructed him to ask for “violation of environmental legislation” “harder”.

“Respond harder. Franz Josef Land and Novaya Zemlya - a lot of dirt has accumulated there, ”said Chaika.

More than 2 thousand tons of scrap metal will be exported from the Arctic islands
Franz Josef Land
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Andrey Kamenev / www.nat-geo.ru
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  1. Lyton
    Lyton 28 May 2016 12: 39
    +4
    Well, yes, before the military did not bother with garbage collection, they left everything there.
    1. Alex_Rarog
      Alex_Rarog 28 May 2016 12: 45
      +11
      I think there is profit there too ... so it should be useful for the environment and for the budget!
      1. gispanec
        gispanec 28 May 2016 13: 03
        +10
        Quote: Lyton
        Well, yes, before the military did not bother with garbage collection, they left everything there.

        even now they don’t clean themselves, they hire specialized firms with a license ...
        Quote: Alex_Rarog
        I think so there is profit too.

        no ... there the cat wept ... one transportation and collection-processing lays down about 5-7000 per ton ... this is the Arctic for you ...
        the photo is solid pollen))
        1. ALABAY45
          ALABAY45 28 May 2016 13: 32
          +3
          "... there is a solid color in the photo ,,,"
          Especially on the first! wink WELDED STEEL BARRELS AND SUNSET Kegs with corrugations on the hull
          specifications
          Welded and folded steel barrels (drums) with crimps on casing.
          Specifications

          GOST
          13950-91 hi
          1. gispanec
            gispanec 28 May 2016 14: 55
            +2
            Quote: ALABAY45
            Especially on the first! wink WELDED BARRELS AND WELDING BARRELS WITH CORNER ON THE HOUSING

            these barrels are continuous Gimer ... they must be compressed ... otherwise you are carrying the air ... and the remnants of fuels and lubricants is not das ist buzz ....
            1. ALABAY45
              ALABAY45 28 May 2016 15: 01
              +1
              "... not das ist gud ...."
              Is das east tsvetishen metalishen ?! Das, the story is fantastic ...
              1. gispanec
                gispanec 28 May 2016 15: 43
                0
                Quote: ALABAY45
                Is das east tsvetishen metalishen ?! Das east is fantastic

                I am ... das east buzz ... flowered
                1. cniza
                  cniza 28 May 2016 15: 49
                  +8
                  If it was cost-effective, there would be no problems, everyone would have already taken out., But alas, this is really a loss.
                  1. Pirogov
                    Pirogov 28 May 2016 16: 41
                    +5
                    Quote: cniza
                    If it was cost-effective, there would be no problems, everyone would have already taken out., But alas, this is really a loss.

                    Loss is not a loss, but the territory must be put in order.
                    1. ALABAY45
                      ALABAY45 28 May 2016 18: 16
                      -9
                      "The loss is not a loss, but the territory needs to be put in order"
                      Judging by the flag, in your territory - complete order ?! So, I asked ...
                      1. Pirogov
                        Pirogov 28 May 2016 20: 47
                        +10
                        Quote: ALABAY45
                        "The loss is not a loss, but the territory needs to be put in order"
                        Judging by the flag, in your territory - complete order ?! So, I asked ...

                        Do you judge people by flags on VO?
                      2. ALABAY45
                        ALABAY45 29 May 2016 06: 12
                        0
                        I do not like it when a foreign country suddenly, for no reason, begins to manage the money of my country!
              2. ALABAY45
                ALABAY45 28 May 2016 16: 36
                -6
                Forverts, Gennos ... Obrabaytung! wink
        2. Lelek
          Lelek 28 May 2016 17: 58
          +4
          Quote: ALABAY45
          Especially on the first!


          A familiar picture. Especially in the Grem Bell district, and on the mainland coast it is no better. And what took up these Augean stables is very good and it's high time. Children and grandchildren need to leave the RESERVED ARCTIC.
      2. 34 region
        34 region 28 May 2016 13: 39
        +4
        Hispanic! 13.03/XNUMX. Something I doubt that private business worked without profit. Rather, one company receives financing for the collection and export, and then already sells it to the processor. They took it out with financial money, got it from the sale. Maybe the processor just gets the color for nothing. I do not believe in modern charity. Surely there are beneficiaries. Why is Seagull so concerned? It's like with Greenpeace. Under the guise of protecting, protecting nature, someone's interests are pushed through.
        1. Asadullah
          Asadullah 28 May 2016 14: 21
          +8
          Under the guise of protecting, protecting nature, someone's interests are pushed through


          There is no profit from metal. And of course, everything is as usual, a competition and a contract. Profit, a few percent of the contract price. Moreover, the metal is problematic, the remains of fuels and lubricants, process fluids, some phonite. That is, somewhere in the Salekhard area a giant dump will appear. I would like to see the contract, I am sure that there are no obligations for disposal in it. Otherwise, hell they would have found someone to work.
          1. K-50
            K-50 28 May 2016 19: 36
            +5
            Quote: Asadullah
            There is no profit from metal.

            Profit from pure nature. More beast will be fruitful, fish, birds. And "pooping" where you live is not good. request
            1. Asadullah
              Asadullah 28 May 2016 22: 22
              +2
              Profit from pure nature. More beast will be fruitful, fish, birds. And "pooping" where you live is not good.


              Nobody argues with this. Moreover, given the level of mismanagement of those years, it’s still divine ... when the dump in Gardez caught fire, explosives burst there for a month, as accompaniment. Here the question arises in another, so that the landfill would not be transferred from one place to another.
        2. gispanec
          gispanec 28 May 2016 15: 40
          +2
          Quote: Region 34
          Something I doubt that private business worked without profit

          of course not)) .... it’s just that state-owned companies that hold tenders receive loot from the budget ... and commerce cuts their profits ... believe me for a long time in scrap metal .. and I know what our profit is and where it is formed ... .a in the north, the consumable goes off scale .. and without budgetary money it’s really hard to make money there ... if only as you specified at the expense of pollen ... there are a lot of it ...
      3. sherp2015
        sherp2015 28 May 2016 13: 41
        +2
        Quote: gispanec
        the photo is solid pollen))


        Is that solid rust eating pollen? Of course you were joking ...
        1. gispanec
          gispanec 28 May 2016 15: 45
          +2
          Quote: sherp2015
          Does that solid rust have pollen? Of course you were joking ..

          no, I’m not joking .... IL-14 is not only a broken plane, it’s about 15 tons of good pollen ...
          1. Igor V
            Igor V 28 May 2016 17: 41
            +1
            Poor Il! Yes, he probably took a lot of things.
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 28 May 2016 19: 08
      +2
      Quote: Alex_Rarog
      I think there is profit there too ... so it should be useful for the environment and for the budget!

      what is the "profit" from rusty, rotten iron? during melting it will turn into foam ... some losses ... however, we, a clean nation, cannot be called, a.s.r.a.l.i. already everything that is possible, I’m not even talking about Kyshtym, Karabash, and so on, but about the nearest forest or river. I hope there are witnesses how this winter on Refty, (Asbestos) men in despair even wrote a tablet in watercolor: “Let's go to sleep. er.em, reservoir together! " with the "face" of a pig in the middle ... darkness ... Uganda is resting ....
    3. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 28 May 2016 20: 22
      +4
      Quote: Alex_Rarog
      I think there is profit there too ... so it should be useful for the environment and for the budget!

      No, there’s definitely no benefit)))
      If you figure out how much money was spent on delivering a 200 liter barrel to the edge of the earth, and how much will now be spent on shipping it to the nearest press, you get a total loss. Maybe it would be more rational to put a press there or deliver a blacksmith there and put in the staff the position of a blacksmith who would make things necessary for life in / out of this trash, fasteners, etc. etc.? Ore is not mined on the islands. Those. ingenuity is lost)))
      And so of course - it looks large-scale!
      1. Zveruga
        Zveruga 29 May 2016 18: 48
        0
        The ship that collects the barrels has a special press.
    4. Maksus
      Maksus 28 May 2016 23: 56
      0
      And Douglas (or is it LI-2?) You can take out and put some in the museum. Or a monument to polar aviation.
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  3. siberalt
    siberalt 28 May 2016 13: 05
    +4
    Two thousand tons is about one train. structure. And if the prosecutor harnessed himself to collecting scrap metal on the little uninhabited islands of the Arctic Ocean, then this is already something. And what was Seagull thinking when he spent his first term in the chair of the General? By the way, today is the day of the Soviet prosecutor's office. Happy veterans of the prosecutor's office!
    1. gispanec
      gispanec 28 May 2016 15: 49
      +1
      Quote: siberalt
      Two thousand tons is about one train. structure

      average carload in bulk = 35-47 tons ... this is without tamping, and without pressed scrap (or cut into size (900 by 500 by 500 mm) in the composition of about 22 cars ... but they can not be loaded with scrap metal ... now multiply = 880 tons (full strength) ....
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 28 May 2016 17: 07
        0
        If not, then a mobile barrel press will be processed.
  4. yuriy55
    yuriy55 28 May 2016 14: 31
    +1
    Quote: Lyton
    Well, yes, before the military did not bother with garbage collection, they left everything there.

    The military got it without cleaning. And to clean up the garbage - you don't need a big mind, the legislation should also be corrected on a free summer trip to sources (applies to those who do not want and cannot engage in creative work, preferring to lead an "idle parasitic" lifestyle) ...
    soldier
  5. Dmitry Toderes
    Dmitry Toderes 28 May 2016 16: 15
    0
    The plane is not ferrous metal - non-ferrous. With that kind of money will be much more.
  6. K-50
    K-50 28 May 2016 19: 33
    +1
    Quote: Lyton
    Well, yes, before the military did not bother with garbage collection, they left everything there.

    There and without the military crap. Many civilian expeditions carried "trash" with them and threw them at the "picnic" site. sad
  7. 1rl141
    1rl141 28 May 2016 22: 07
    +3
    Quote: Lyton
    Well, yes, before the military did not bother with garbage collection, they left everything there.


    Itself served 3 years on an island in the Far North. How do you imagine garbage collection by the military? Every officer, going on vacation, should take a barrel with him to the mainland? And there he should hand it over to the scrap?
    For reporting and writing off 200 liter barrels, we sent covers from them. And the barrels themselves were used to build caponiers and to shoot them as targets from ZPU.
    It was simply not profitable to export barrels and even decommissioned cars. On the island there was a dump of cars, about a kilometer and a half long, from decommissioned cars. Moreover, a often decommissioned car came to a landfill on its own. The batteries were removed from it and it slowly turned into a donor. We had enthusiasts who assembled working machines from this landfill. It was not a problem to assemble ZIL 131 there. It was practically impossible to transport these vehicles to the mainland. The cost of the ship for this scrap metal exceeded its cost repeatedly.
    It had to be cut in place so that it fit as much as possible. And at the same time pay the carvers. The ovchinka wasn’t worth it. Yes, and not the military, it’s a matter of collecting barrels around the island. We had it up to our neck.
  8. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 30 May 2016 03: 28
    0
    Quote: Lyton
    Well, yes, before the military did not bother with garbage collection, they left everything there.


    You fly, fly across the Arctic - a jamb on a jamb from geologists and a warrior. Personally watched.
  • oldseaman1957
    oldseaman1957 28 May 2016 12: 40
    +7
    The beauty of the Arctic nature must be protected! And not only the Arctic. And then the country seems to be huge, but they have already mentally messed it up. Well, let's assume that the time has come to "collect stones".
    1. Blondy
      Blondy 28 May 2016 13: 04
      +3
      Quote: oldseaman1957
      The beauty of the nature of the Arctic must be protected!
      I don’t know what about beauty - all felt-tip pens are different in taste and color, but the fact that the Arctic ecosystems are the most vulnerable of the zonal ones and the most difficult and long-term self-installation is for sure.
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 28 May 2016 14: 35
        0
        Quote: Blondy
        ... Arctic ecosystems are the most vulnerable of the zonal ones and the most difficult and long-term self-installation - that's for sure.


        Yah! The most important thing here is the absence in the Arctic of those who impede long self-healing ... yes
  • seti
    seti 28 May 2016 12: 41
    +4
    The photo with the plane was impressive.
    1. Lyton
      Lyton 28 May 2016 12: 46
      +1
      I agree, a beautiful photo on the background of the sea and mountains with the top in the clouds.
      1. ALABAY45
        ALABAY45 28 May 2016 13: 58
        +8
        And, the photo with the plane, in my opinion, is very sad ... The plane, too, once had a "soul", once it transported people, cargo, and, then, it was thrown into the trash ... as if, a fifteen-year-old deaf and half-blind spaniel with failed hind legs, but with a bunch of medals ... crying As a sign of human "gratitude" ... Aviators will understand! We all, someday, "fly off" our ...
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    3. dauria
      dauria 28 May 2016 13: 07
      +1
      The photo with the plane was impressive.


      And I would leave the plane and some barrels. History, damn it ...

      We had a Tu-124 skeleton lying on the edge of the airfield. Now many do not know what it was.
    4. lelikas
      lelikas 28 May 2016 14: 06
      +2
      What kind of aircraft in the Arctic is not there;)
  • Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 28 May 2016 12: 45
    +4
    In the photo, like IL 14, a place for him in the museum. Well, here are the army Timurovites on the islands.
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist 28 May 2016 13: 30
      0
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      In the photo like IL 14?

      Ilyusha - flew gasoline.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 May 2016 12: 46
    +13
    The picture is impressive. How many brought! Isn't it too expensive to export all this? They would have brought a diesel press, "compacted" all this rubbish on the spot, and erected an appropriate "mound" (and not very big, by the way. Who on the mainland needed 2 thousand tons of old rusty iron? And also contaminated with oil products? during the winter such a mound will freeze so well that it will be "mothballed" forever.
    Iron compacted under the press, even 5 tons per cubic meter - 400 cubic meters per 2000 tons - is nothing at all. The box is 10x10 and 4 meters in height. laughing
    1. ProkletyiPirat
      ProkletyiPirat 28 May 2016 13: 43
      -3
      taken out in order to show that we are "clean" and that we would be assigned a little more territory with oil and gas ...
    2. lelikas
      lelikas 28 May 2016 13: 44
      +8
      Yes, there is everything, work has been going on since the 12th year, it has already been taken out immeasurably, no less is left.
      1. zanoza
        zanoza 28 May 2016 14: 11
        +7
        Pressed, but not all barrels are empty. In them, where is mining, and where is not used fuel and lubricants. Plus an unmeasured amount of motor vehicles and equipment.
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 28 May 2016 17: 10
          +2
          Will go to heating, it will not be lost.
    3. 34 region
      34 region 28 May 2016 13: 47
      +1
      Mountain shooter! 12.46. There is the collection and disposal of scrap metal. Disposal of fuel tanks is another item. And the article does not provide examples on the export of barrels. First of all, apparently the hardest is being taken away. And about the silence of the press. Although the West is pressing cars into briquettes at all and pressing is probably beneficial. And ours are silent about the press.
    4. novobranets
      novobranets 28 May 2016 13: 59
      +8
      And ours are silent about the press.
      Two landing boats Nikolay Rubtsov and D-325, which were delivered on the cargo deck of the killers Alexander Pushkin and KIL-164, were involved in the removal of scrap metal from Kotelny Island. This was announced on September 14, 2015 by the press service of the Northern Fleet (Severomorsk). The removal of metal waste from the Russian islands of the Arctic Ocean is one of the tasks of the long voyage of the North Sea residents. During the stay of the detachment of ships and vessels of the Northern Fleet in the vicinity of the island of Kotelny, tens of twenty-ton containers with scrap metal prepared for disposal by environmental platoon servicemen will be loaded onto killers.
      http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/67764/
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 28 May 2016 17: 12
        +2
        And I would press on the side, the height of the barrel. Add up much more compactly, only the press must be with the appropriate table.
  • weksha50
    weksha50 28 May 2016 12: 48
    +7
    Something terribly from these photos has become ...
    I would call these photographs "The Beastly Face of a Man" ...
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 28 May 2016 13: 04
      +18
      And these are just islands! If you look at what is lying in our tundra - finally horror. Here is a case near Nadym: They bring a twenty-thousand-meter oil tank, and it comes rolled up and welded in tacks. They put it on the calculated installation site (pipes and equipment have already been installed) and the welders must cut off the tacks, it will unfold along the limiters and weld the vertical seam. But it wasn’t there - they miscalculated a little with the air temperature and made the metal spring stronger. This piece of iron in a rolled-up size the size of a car flies away from the place ten meters and falls flat. Everything!!! She can’t be lifted already !!! They ordered another, brought it, delivered it right, and that one is lying around. In the 92 year, strange helicopters began to fly along the tundra with some left-wing people (I was often on business trips there), and I asked the guys what for the flights. It turned out to be collecting scrap !!! Helicopters were profitable !!! Well, yes these are scumbag watchmen, but the state reached out not only to scribble, but also to assemble. This is absolutely welcome!
      1. boris-1230
        boris-1230 28 May 2016 21: 34
        +4
        If you look at what is lying in our tundra - finally horror.

        Oil workers during the development, technicians drowned in swamps immeasurably. In the 80s, a bulldozer driver came to us, in the mechanized convoy, to settle down with his Komatsu. Found a new Komatsu bulldozer in the swamp. I corrected the documents for him, and then actually dug out of the swamp, took out, laundered, debugged and came to get a job. Before my eyes, the brigade drowned a new pile driver in a swamp. The head of the mechanized column said that the cost of the pile driver would keep the brigade from making money. For a month they dug a pile driver. And how many "wonderful mistakes" are unknown to us? So somehow. hi
    2. lelikas
      lelikas 28 May 2016 13: 54
      +13
      Quote: weksha50
      Something terribly from these photos has become ...
      I would call these photographs "The Beastly Face of a Man" ...

      In the photo - already collected barrels, but scattered around the islands - it looks even worse. And past the barrels, there are tractors, all-terrain vehicles, trucks, ships, helicopters. moreover, some things are real rarities, they should be taken to the museum.
      1. masiya
        masiya 28 May 2016 20: 36
        +5
        Well, in fact, they would have organized a technology museum that in the Arctic has survived and shown its survivability for so many years, half of the exhibits are sure that now they will work after washing and preparation, is this not the best proof of Soviet technical performance.
      2. code54
        code54 30 May 2016 11: 52
        0
        Is it a one and a half? Or what kind of car? Not bad still preserved !!!
  • Barakuda
    Barakuda 28 May 2016 12: 49
    +1
    Some have THOUGHT .. that the government collects the remnants (nki) of UFOs, and our ancestors - Hyperboreans.
    where there is oil, there was a jungle .. winked
  • Genry
    Genry 28 May 2016 12: 53
    +11
    And can fill these barrels with mortar or sand and build from them the walls of hangars, moorings, defenses. Use whole or cut into sheets, a little welding work, additional local materials and will be a great building.
    Why take out such a valuable resource and not use it rationally ???
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 28 May 2016 13: 20
      +1
      Why take out such a valuable resource
      True idea. I hope that you will be appreciated at the top. Profitable several times.
    2. faridg7
      faridg7 28 May 2016 13: 39
      +2
      Well, it’s only at your dacha so it’s possible when they don’t press any deadlines, there’s nothing to do, to remake one product into another. Here the deadlines are short - the summer is short, and in the winter you will alter a lot there?
    3. Barakuda
      Barakuda 28 May 2016 20: 42
      0
      You obviously have nothing to do with construction.
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 28 May 2016 13: 18
    +1
    Interestingly, frozen diesel fuel in these barrels can be used.
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  • Kotost
    Kotost 28 May 2016 13: 45
    +1
    Yeah, the scale is amazing
    1. TRex
      TRex 28 May 2016 16: 27
      +8
      Shock, say ..? When I served there (and it was in the 80's), there was open information that about 6.000.000 tons of scrap metal had accumulated in the Arctic zone of the USSR (on the islands and the mainland). Do you count the number of zeroes? If disposed of at 2.000 tons per year, then through three thousand years we will completely clear the Arctic of these deposits ... Now SHAKE?
      So all this is picking for eyes. We need a targeted state program.
      By the way, for those who consider cars and trains - there is NO railway.
      1. code54
        code54 30 May 2016 11: 55
        0
        Yeah!!! After the war, every piece of iron was dragged into scrap metal, and then the Pioneers dragged everything that was bad to be handed over, and there they threw it all over and threw it ... What do you say, a rich country !!! We mine, process ore ... and here lies on the ground !!!
        And if they don’t say it’s expensive to collect, take it out, calculate how many costs it takes to melt a ton of metal from scratch !? I'm certainly not an expert in this field, but ...
  • rudolff
    rudolff 28 May 2016 13: 47
    +5
    "Environmental pollution of 15% of the territory of the Arctic zone has reached a critical level. This was stated by Anatoly Palamarchuk, head of the main department for supervision over the implementation of federal legislation of the Russian Prosecutor General's Office."
    "... according to the Ministry of Natural Resources of the Russian Federation, at the end of 2015 the area of ​​the territory contaminated as a result of the activities of oil companies amounted to 1025 hectares."
    We remove in one place, and in another crap. In the same Salekhard, the worn-out oil pipelines are simply abandoned, not repaired. It’s easier to drop a new thread nearby. There are such oil swamps, it’s terrible to watch.
  • megafair
    megafair 28 May 2016 13: 59
    +3
    In my opinion, on ecology, with the filing of pind0s (all their "green standards"), people got too confused ... And all those who, in billions of tons, pumped toxic cocktails into boreholes underground, would be confused by all, so that shales could be developed ...
    And here lies aluminum, which does no harm to nature, all this can be taken out - when there are excess financial resources, it is now much more important to make a reserve for further development, making it so as not to cause such damage to the natural system that pind0s do with their shale booties ...
    Who cares - look:
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 28 May 2016 14: 44
      0
      Yes!!! Shit all over the ball and solve your problems. Garik Truman can be considered the first bastard who announced his position without hesitation !!! (before him there were bastards-tihushniki with the same meaning). In the states themselves, the reduction in oil production is in full swing ... BUT !!! exploration continues. And this whole thing in no way concerns shale PI. Only "nature". Exploration conservation. With the technologies they have, each explored deposit is considered a strategic reserve storage facility. These same "shale mining technologies" were developed primarily for a SHORT CHAIN ​​of extraction and processing of underground canned food into fuel, but they are expensive, it is still a military technology. In ordinary petrochemistry, this does not work (or rather, it works, but ruins everything it touches). Why did Sashiki throw these technologies into common use right now ??? To piss off the whole world? To myself? To gnaw us? Which of us is a dubak? What smart guy from Obama decided that "shale" is cheaper on an industrial scale? There are many questions, but the answer is one: the best is the enemy of the good.
      1. megafair
        megafair 28 May 2016 17: 35
        0
        You transferred the problem of damage to the territory to conditional effectiveness ...

        Did you do this intentionally?
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 28 May 2016 18: 08
          -1
          No, the effectiveness is not conditional, but quite practical. And this is the first thing. Second: Evaluation of effectiveness is a subjective concept - someone who can "control" it uses a specific technology! (The efficiency of using the atomic bomb in 1945 is explainable not from the point of view of the impact on the USSR, but from the point of view of studying the effect of this weapon in combat conditions, which the Americans and confirmed by subsequent "assistance"). It's not a secret for anyone that we have 5-6 pressure heads per production well (these are those that pump water into the strata, often SALT! Because it is heavier). And the whole world saw our oil fields in a coffin. They personally do not care, well, okay. And now it has touched in small countries !!! For if "a piece of the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug falls into the cavity, then Europe will get a kick out of it, but if the same piece is the size of Bulgaria and in Bulgaria, then ... And to be honest, all this is the development of technology on other people's resources Remember Sakhalin-1. Sakhalin-2 - the state has already realized it quietly sold, and then, after installing everything that was needed, they sent such investors in three letters and took the entire infrastructure at the expense of damage in the first.
          1. megafair
            megafair 29 May 2016 01: 03
            +1
            You formulate your position - you are FOR the extraction of oil shale, or you are AGAINST pumping poisonous cocktails under pressure from 500 to 1500 atmospheres ???
            No need for demagoguery!
  • volodya
    volodya 28 May 2016 14: 08
    +1
    How many barrels are there. I myself have been cooking barrels there for more than a year; they brought fuel into them.
  • excomandante
    excomandante 28 May 2016 14: 11
    +4
    "Elimination of the accumulated environmental damage of the past years" - what a marvelous office! Eh, our officials know how to burn with a verb! Five plus!
  • DMB3000
    DMB3000 28 May 2016 14: 20
    +2
    Quote: gispanec

    no ... there the cat wept ... one transportation and collection-processing lays down about 5-7000 per ton ... this is the Arctic for you ...
    the photo is solid pollen))

    this rusty iron barrels became colored.
  • senima56
    senima56 28 May 2016 14: 27
    0
    Yeah, shit has accumulated a lot there, believe me! I visit those parts for work. It will take more than one year to take out at least the most part! I hope this business will be completed! And if all the garbage is really taken out, for this alone you need to put up a "miraculous monument" to Shoigu!
  • Red Shield
    Red Shield 28 May 2016 14: 44
    +3
    Two thousand tons of metal, the volume is not large, the value given the location is not great. But the places are beautiful, now it’s clean +
  • Marlen
    Marlen 28 May 2016 14: 44
    +1
    Fucked up from the heart.
    1. old pioneer
      old pioneer 28 May 2016 15: 09
      +1
      Two bulk carriers and one underloaded barge ... Given the fact that they have been imported for decades. Your family defecated harder over the 20th century.
  • Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 28 May 2016 15: 15
    0
    Gypsies need to suggest a way there, they will take everything out.
    1. 1rl141
      1rl141 28 May 2016 22: 15
      +1
      Quote: Alexander 3
      Gypsies need to suggest a way there, they will take everything out.

      They only need to be allowed. They will take everything out on rafts.
  • vl-miv
    vl-miv 28 May 2016 15: 57
    +1
    I watched the plot on TV. I can assure everyone that the barrels with the remains are burned out first, then pressed and then onto the ship. Therefore, there should be no problems with the delivery of iron. As for the floating iron, I strongly doubt it is not the New Earth.
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 28 May 2016 15: 59
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    Quote: Alex_Rarog
    I think there is profit there too ... so it should be useful for the environment and for the budget!

    That's it - there is profit! If possible, do not charge this work to the budget. It seems to me (correct if it’s not right), extra-budgetary funds, such as private traders (yes, at least squads) could take over the collection and possibly even the evacuation of trash and just rubbish organized homeless people). Where the bar is still covered - of course there is a budget.
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 28 May 2016 16: 42
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    As long as they do not make cheap logistics in the north, all this will be expensive.
    But it seems that soon a piece of iron will reach the coast,
    then maybe processing will go faster.
    Well, mechanization would be more powerful to build there for processing.
    That would not load one barrel, and skip the conveyor.
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 28 May 2016 18: 10
      0
      Barrels for scrap metal do not even accept rusty ones; the tin will burn in the open-hearth. This is even without taking into account the distance. And you are profit. Just put things in order, it's time. I am glad that Russia’s hands began to reach such things.
  • Wasiliy1985
    Wasiliy1985 28 May 2016 17: 09
    +1
    Here, in fact, logistics rules: a transport with a load arrived, unloaded. Should he go back to him empty? I saw enough of the non-profitability of second-ferrous metal in Novorossiysk - Turkish "second-ferrous locomotives" left the port loaded to capacity every two days. And while you go by trolleybus to Sheskharis, you see one thing: whole columns of trucks are standing in front of the port gates to unload this very second-hand metal.
    And you - "unprofitable!"
    It is unprofitable to empty nuclear lighter carriers in the return line.
  • vglazunov
    vglazunov 28 May 2016 17: 18
    +1
    Special squad of polar homeless people and a rusty nail will not find laughing
    1. ALABAY45
      ALABAY45 28 May 2016 18: 09
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      Lead ?! laughing Or, so, just advice ....?! You see, Vasily, it is cold in the Arctic, for such "commanders" ... Can you hold out ?! muschinka-pole ...
      1. vglazunov
        vglazunov 28 May 2016 20: 18
        0
        I’ve been living in Yamal for 30 years, I know firsthand what is minus 50 C. But I’ll give you the candidacy laughing
  • Clutch
    Clutch 28 May 2016 18: 02
    +1
    Now there is no need to appoint the extreme and the guilty, you just need to equip all the territories !!!
  • Orionvit
    Orionvit 28 May 2016 18: 03
    +1
    Quote: Alex_Rarog
    I think there is profit there too ... so it should be useful for the environment and for the budget!

    Are you laughing what profit? To clean several islands at the devil's pies, in adverse climate and weather conditions. How much came from a rusty barrel, although there are millions of them? No 2000 tons of scrap metal can pay for such an operation. The operation is carried out exclusively on environmental issues (read the article), and I suspect that there is not a lot of money to swell there, because the north is expensive. But cleanliness is more expensive, and so the whole world is stuck .. if, nowhere else. Russia keep it up.
  • NDR-791
    NDR-791 28 May 2016 19: 21
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    Quote: megafair
    You transferred the problem of damage to the territory to conditional effectiveness ...

    Did you do this intentionally?

    To begin with, before poking at the FKNOPPKU, I try not only to read, but also to understand the interlocutor.
  • masiya
    masiya 28 May 2016 20: 41
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    Of course, it is necessary to take out and dispose of it, it’s terrible what is happening, during the USSR they didn’t count the barrels, now they rust and rot ..., there’s still some sediment left, but still collect - dispose of, and establish military stations in these places, so that to guard the territory.
  • Disorder
    Disorder 28 May 2016 22: 22
    +1
    There is a struggle for control over the Arctic. It was not just that they set the Russian flag on an underwater ridge and arrange landing on the pole.
    And this is a side effect. Do not drive empty, and the place needs to be cleared. Most likely they will not clean the entire Arctic, only in the right places, and the rest will be left until the next time.
  • dojjdik
    dojjdik 29 May 2016 07: 40
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    again the chatter of these supposedly false ecologists who are champions of our nature, but in fact paid agents who are trying, by hook or by crook, to destroy our loot; but already the first oil tankers sailed and henceforth the oil of the Arctic will not only be extracted but also processed; benzene toluene ethylene white spirit kerosene and many other products - this has been and will be ours
  • user3970
    user3970 30 May 2016 10: 58
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    What are you all in barrels rested? And the radar, and stationary diesel engines, and motor vehicles, GTS, GTT, ATS and other auto junk, and the barracks of individual points? And what's going on on the Matochkin Ball? This is the issue of radiation.
  • Irbenwolf
    Irbenwolf 30 May 2016 11: 19
    -1
    Money laundering in a European way. It seems to be a good thing, and the money pays good, and there is no need to carry far - a kilometer sailed into the sea and "solved" the issue.
  • DenZ
    DenZ 30 May 2016 11: 37
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    Quote: IrbenWolf
    Money laundering in a European way. It seems like a good thing, and the money pays good, and there is no need to carry far - a kilometer sailed into the sea and "solved" the question

    Well, yes, you probably would. It’s better to keep people like you away from such global affairs. am I think the scrap metal exported is considered upon arrival of the ships. So this situation is impossible in principle.
    1. Irbenwolf
      Irbenwolf 1 June 2016 14: 25
      -1
      Are you really that naive or just a "fundamentally correct opinion"?

      In order to count the scrap metal brought in, you need to count the scrap metal taken out. Who will do this? I have already pictured a battalion of yellow-mouthed soldiers counting barrels in pieces on a distant Arctic island. Then he introduced the ensign translating "things" into the total weight of the scrap. Then he presented the price of running a barge in a short Arctic summer. Number of flights. Cost of barge downtime for loading and unloading. This is if a scrap recycling plant happens to be in a port. In the worst case, we add the cost of railway logistics.

      It is easier to fill the barrels with soil from the islands and by taking this "good" into the sea to increase the "Lomonosov ridge". Well, on paper, of course, "rework".

      They know how to count everything, and ensigns even more so. Everyone loves their pocket.
      1. DenZ
        DenZ 1 June 2016 15: 02
        0
        Minus you from "fundamentally correct".
        PS How to do everything in one place could not be described. Simple business is simple.
  • pwg-pwg
    pwg-pwg 30 May 2016 15: 30
    0
    If you melt, I think that the cost of 1 ton of steel will not be much more expensive than with ore