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In flight schools resumed the original flight practice

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After the 3-year break in flight military high schools, the original flight practice was resumed - the cadets took to the air on L-39 aircraft, reports MIC with reference to the Deputy Commander of the VKS Andrei Yudin.




“Today is a significant day for all the Air and Space Forces of Russia - for the first time after a three-year break, young guys flew into the air on their own, someday replacing us at our fighting post”,
said the udin.

He noted that "the first flights are always preceded by theoretical training during the two years of training." “In the third, fourth and fifth year courses, flight practice begins in the spring and continues until the end of September,” added Yudin.

“We have achieved a good competition in flight schools. This allows us to select the best for training, for which we will not worry. This is the most important thing when performing combat missions, ”he said.

“The plane of the original flight training is still the L-39 Albatross, but in the fourth and fifth years, future pilots should gradually master the new combat training Yak-130. Every year, at least ten Yak-130 planes arrive at Borisoglebsk and Armavir according to the plan, ”Yudin said.
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  1. oldseaman1957
    oldseaman1957 27 May 2016 12: 49
    +3
    “We have achieved a good competition in flight schools. This allows us to select the best during training.” - And if we punish those who put sticks in their wheels? After all, the best military flight schools were almost completely ruined. At Iosif Vissarionych, at best, these guys would happily master the sunny Kolyma. And in our country they continue to fool. The nomenclature, however ...
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 27 May 2016 13: 01
      +14
      And if you punish those who put sticks in the wheels?
      - oldseaman1957

      Correctly! And who will be responsible for the 3-year break in the training of military pilots, the destruction of military flight schools, academies?
      Reception was not only in schools, but also in the academy, preparing the highest command of the Air Force.
      There are no guilty ones. Will you nod at Serdyukov-Taburetkin again? So he is not punished, he is engaged in "reforming" in a new field.
      And above Serdyukov, who gave him instructions on the actual disruption of the combat readiness of the Air Force, and the entire Army, either due to misunderstanding, or deliberately to please the "partners", how will they answer? Who will measure these losses? So everything will get away with it, as Gorbachev and Yeltsin used to do.
      Will we have time to recover these "reform" losses? It is not easy to train pilots, since at the whim of an official you cannot put them in combat formation. It takes years.
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 27 May 2016 13: 07
        +7
        Quote: vladimirZ
        And above Serdyukov, who gave him instructions on the actual disruption of the combat readiness of the Air Force, whether due to misunderstanding, or deliberately to please the "partners", how will they answer?
        And who is taller than Serdkov? Prime and President. Call a spade a spade. So, who will we call to account?
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 27 May 2016 14: 10
          +6
          They can not be called. They should be worshiped and enthusiastically listening to revelations. Especially iPhone, unfinished.
        2. NordUral
          NordUral 27 May 2016 20: 12
          0
          So tell me, it’s unreasonable for us.
    2. Homo
      Homo 27 May 2016 13: 21
      -1
      Quote: oldseaman1957
      And if you punish those who put sticks in the wheels?

      Or maybe stop talking about the past, put in, prevented, punish them. Let's learn to fly, fight, build a new army. Of course snot chewing on the past is more profitable, but is it worth it?
      1. oldseaman1957
        oldseaman1957 27 May 2016 13: 37
        +3
        Quote: Homo
        Or maybe stop talking about the past, put in, interfere,
        - Yes, to continue to be disgraceful! After all, dirty tricks breed until they are put up with cancer! And not only cancer ...
      2. Pereira
        Pereira 27 May 2016 14: 16
        +3
        Let's. Start building straight from Monday.
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        2. matross
          matross 27 May 2016 15: 37
          +3
          Who is in the know, explain, and that for three years the cadets did not fly at all? What is it like? And then who produced?
          1. weksha50
            weksha50 27 May 2016 16: 29
            +1
            Quote: matRoss
            Who is in the know, explain, and that for three years the cadets did not fly at all? What is it like? And then who produced?



            Honestly, this wording surprised me too ...

            Maybe I missed something in the development of modern Air Force-VKS ???

            Guys, understand who understands this issue ... Please ...
          2. vladimirZ
            vladimirZ 27 May 2016 18: 14
            +6
            Who is in the know, explain, and that for three years the cadets did not fly at all? What is it like? And then who produced?

            Did you guys just wake up? You have already forgotten that during the period of "Serdyukovism", with the consent of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, admission to all military educational institutions, including academies, was suspended for 3 years. Military schools and academies were "optimized", many were simply closed, some were merged with academies.

            For example, military aircraft. First, two aviation academies: the flight Gagarin and the Zhukovsky aviation engineering, were "merged" into one, and then they were actually liquidated by sending them from Moscow to Voronezh to the base of the auxiliary military aviation school, which previously trained airfield service specialists.
            The Irkutsk Military Aviation and Engineering School, the only one left in Russia, was transferred there, flight schools were made branches of the Voronezh Aviation Academy, some of them were closed.
            This act interrupted not only glorious military traditions, but also lost the experienced staff of the faculty.
            They violated the turnover of flight personnel in aviation, and indeed the entire officer corps in the entire Army.
            Then they partially recalled that it was impossible to train pilots and engineers together and allocated the Krasnodar Military Flight School, then the Syzran Flight.

            A similar fate and many other military non-aviation schools.
            In general, the "reformers" did their best. But for 3 years in a row, cadets and students of the academies (officers) were not accepted for studies !!!
            The military tradition of most military educational institutions was interrupted. Losses are not only huge material, but also moral, military spirit. What for? All questions to Supreme Commander Putin VV, with his consent and on his orders, all this was carried out.
            1. matross
              matross 27 May 2016 18: 25
              0
              Come on! Admission to military schools was not in 2010 and 2011, but with 2012 it was renewed, do not drive snowstorm. There is a separate question about mergers.
              And here they say - already 3 of the year, as long as we don’t fly ... I'm surprised and intrigued, their mother))
              1. vladimirZ
                vladimirZ 27 May 2016 19: 14
                +4
                Come on! Admission to higher education institutions was not in 2010 and 2011, and since 2012 it has been resumed ...


                In what sizes? Here is a link to the Army Herald website, which states:
                After three years of complete or partial “downtime”, military schools, institutes and academies are returning to a full-time recruitment of cadets. Demand for junior officers is in all types and branches of the Armed Forces, and army personnel officers have already calculated how many people this summer need to be accepted for training ...

                http://army-news.ru/2013/03/nabor-v-voennye-vuzy-rossii-uvelichili-v-razy/
                So, "do not drive the purgen", matRoss (2).
              2. alexmach
                alexmach 27 May 2016 22: 13
                0
                Well, it is written in the article. Cadets begin to fly from the end of the third year, before doing something else. In my opinion, it’s a little strange, but maybe there’s some kind of meaning that I didn’t remember

                Although there was a case, a classmate who was a career soldier told me that until the third year they were not taken on guard at the "gunsmith" in full combat gear, and psychologists did not let him in at the third year, they postponed them for a year ..
      3. weksha50
        weksha50 27 May 2016 16: 27
        +1
        Quote: Homo
        Or maybe stop talking about the past, put in, prevented, punish them. Let's learn to fly, fight, build a new army. Of course snot chewing on the past is more profitable, but is it worth it?



        Hmm ... What's the old wise saying?

        "Whoever remembers the old will have an eye out ...
        And who forgets - that - two "...

        So the collapse must be remembered so that this does not happen again ... However, it can easily happen again, since impunity breeds permissiveness ...

        Well, as for the essence of the article - yes, of course, it’s joyful ... And let them not squeeze with a kerosene, let the guys have a raid for human release, and not for show in the flight book ...
      4. self-propelled
        self-propelled 27 May 2016 16: 48
        +3
        Quote: Homo
        Or maybe stop talking about the past, put in, prevented, punish them. Let's learn to fly, fight, build a new army. Of course snot chewing on the past is more profitable, but is it worth it?

        I absolutely agree with you. it is vital to learn to fly, fight, build a new army.
        there is a question for people knowledgeable in aviation (to completely close the topic of the past) - to replace the Albatross (L-39) with a more modern machine like the SR-10 is there an option?
        1. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 27 May 2016 18: 47
          +2
          Czech L-39 needs to be changed to a Russian aircraft, jet, single engine, simple, economical, cheap. There is no such plane in Russia yet.

          Low-speed was offered piston Yak -152but this is a step backward in training military pilots. The wrong speeds, the wrong aerodynamics of the flight, not the piloting skills that a future military jet pilot needs.
          Yak - 130 jet aircraft, but a complex machine for the initial training of pilots, twin-engine, expensive, uneconomical. Aircraft training combat use of pilots already able to fly.
          Now offering CP-10 private campaign car with reverse sweepwhich, in my opinion, is not very preferable for military pilots who are going to fly in the future on conventional sweep planes, again because of the same piloting skills.
          In addition, it is not yet known how technologically advanced the production of the S-10 private production aircraft is, most likely, they will be produced at military factories. How optimized is it for the equipment of these plants.

          We need a light training aircraft of the L-39 type, of Russian production, made already at the level of today's development of aviation science.
      5. NordUral
        NordUral 27 May 2016 20: 13
        +3
        He who does not remember the past may not see the future.
    3. Verdun
      Verdun 27 May 2016 19: 03
      0
      Quote: oldseaman1957
      these guys would happily master the sunny Kolyma.

      It would be just right to punish those responsible for disrupting flight training. But why, just what - so immediately Kolyma! Kozin, for example, even liked Kolyma.)) For me, these are the first candidates for the Far Eastern Hectare. Just right - to master, for a period of five years, without funds and without state support ...
  2. techie
    techie 27 May 2016 12: 54
    +2
    Regarding our aircraft, not a day recently without positive news. In the right direction, in short, moving. Pah-pah, do not jinx it!
  3. megafair
    megafair 27 May 2016 13: 06
    -2
    Now it remains to restore the Flight Schools, which were closed, the same "Kacha" in which Yuri Alekseevich Gagarin studied.
    1. VeteranVS
      VeteranVS 27 May 2016 13: 10
      +6
      Yu.A. Gagarin did not study in "quality", if I am not mistaken, he studied in Orenburg
      1. megafair
        megafair 28 May 2016 15: 03
        +2
        Indeed, I got it wrong, Kachinsky also had other names and locations, when I tried to enter Kacha (I didn’t get a bit in the configuration of the foot), they told me about the forge of Heroes, such as Gagarin, it was postponed ...
        And then he didn’t double-check ... Guilty ...
      2. Yuri from Volgograd
        Yuri from Volgograd 28 May 2016 20: 17
        +1
        Quote: VeteranVS
        Yu.A. Gagarin did not study in "quality", if I am not mistaken, he studied in Orenburg

        In Kache and without Gagarin there were many Heroes.
        Remind me?
    2. sanyabasik
      sanyabasik 27 May 2016 13: 14
      +3
      Yuri Alekseevich studied in Orenburg .. Kacha became the forge of 312 Heroes, 14 twice and Pokryshkin three times Hero ..
    3. megafair
      megafair 29 May 2016 00: 51
      0
      I then advocate for the restoration of military flight schools - that’s what is IMPORTANT!
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  5. Borus017
    Borus017 27 May 2016 13: 12
    +5
    And who will be responsible (gee-gee-gee) for the country's poherenny system of flying clubs? No one will answer. Nehren learn to fly - suddenly they will become smart, they’ll think up something wrong. In general, the country does not need pilots, more lawyers are needed. And law enforcement officials.
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 27 May 2016 15: 25
      +3
      Quote: Borus017
      Nehren learn to fly
      There is nothing here without the state. Airplanes and airfields are expensive. And our young people really are drawn to military affairs. Take the same "airsoft reenactors". I think there are not a few recruits among them. If only the state would arrange this business so that young people, yes and the men who served, instead of running through the forests in the uniform of the Red Army (or even NATO or the SS) from the ranges, they did not crawl and shoot from the standard armament of the RA. Somewhere financial help, somewhere benefits and privileges, help with a military career , selection at the training site. I do not force, but before the war, our young people, not in the form of Kaiser's Germany, arranged amusing battles, but under the tutelage of the party and the government mastered military-technical specialties, learned to shoot from rifles and machine guns. My grandmother through the factory trade union committee and instructed by the Komsomol and learned to fly with a mosinka and underwent parachute training --- it was FREE then it was such a pleasure laughing .
      Specifically, these skills were not useful to her, but when studying front-line fates, you can understand that a lot of guys fell into schools and training schools with a considerable amount of skills and abilities. And this was also one of the factors of our Victory, because accelerated and qualitatively improved the preparation of replenishment for the front.
  6. meridbt
    meridbt 27 May 2016 13: 21
    +2
    Quote: Borus017
    And who will be responsible (gee-gee-gee) for the country's poherenny system of flying clubs? No one will answer. Nehren learn to fly - suddenly they will become smart, they’ll think up something wrong. In general, the country does not need pilots, more lawyers are needed. And law enforcement officials.


    Now also the smallest (modeling) aircraft is being killed. There’s nothing even to look into the sky!
  7. AKsvlad047
    AKsvlad047 27 May 2016 13: 29
    +4
    It’s good that they fly !!! May they always have an equal number of take-offs and landings, and the enemies of Russia feel sick !!!
  8. bober1982
    bober1982 27 May 2016 13: 31
    +3
    It is difficult to understand what the essence of some comments is - moreover, here is Stalin, the blackjacked flight schools, lawyers, continue to dope, etc. The good news is that the cadets started flying, what else is needed.
  9. behemot
    behemot 27 May 2016 19: 28
    -3
    those. For three years, the cadets did not fly. mdaaa.
  10. Sealek
    Sealek 27 May 2016 22: 59
    +3
    Quote: bober1982
    It is difficult to understand what the essence of some comments is - moreover, here is Stalin, the blackjacked flight schools, lawyers, continue to dope, etc. The good news is that the cadets started flying, what else is needed.

    It looks like drooling in the comments is scattered by those who are not even able to master the meaning of the headline.
    FOR THREE YEARS no "initial flight training" was conducted.
    Kusantov was only put on a plane in the 4th year, and within a year the instructors had to decide what to do with this "old student" now - what kind of aviation should be sent for an internship in the 5th year, or generally "under the tail".
    The reasons for such a "reform" of the educational process are a lot of water. "Elok" is less than one and a half hundred in the ranks and Jacob is still "wept a cat - they have not reached a hundred yet." In combat units, the same is not delighted with such "mentoring" is not clear with whom and with what.

    Laughed about the "garage vyperdysh" SR-10.
    During the initial training on this pepelatse, created for "sports aerobatics", you will save less than 10% of money for the Ministry of Defense in comparison with training for 130 (they are now saving 39% on the L-5).

    I think that at the present time it is optimal to finish the diesel engine on the Yak-152 and before the "birth of a diesel PART on the basis of the FREGATE" - to carry the zheltorotik from the first to the third year "with a folder as an instructor everywhere and for everyone" and, according to the level of penetration, release independently regardless of the total programs for complex types of training in "test flights" (routes, aerobatics, group flying, attacks of ground targets individually and in a group, combat maneuvering and air battles singly / as part of tactical groups, clouds, night, etc.).
    It is not necessary to refer to the "screw-steering of the unit" - the difference in basic skills in comparison with the whistle is only in the speed of updating the "flight information" (to teach the mosque to work quickly).

    This will no longer be "takeoff, landing, in operation" - but normal training and sorting of the "contingent" by type of the aerospace forces, before "basic training" on an advanced Yak-130 with programmable control for any type of aircraft.

    There is still a very important line - who teaches.
    There must be an age qualification for an instructor of "at least 35", for example, and a full-time position starting with a major.

    So far they are preparing some kind of "akamedics", not "combatant bayonets".
    1. megafair
      megafair 28 May 2016 15: 09
      0
      Support!

      And you don't need to kick about the past, those who kick should ask themselves a question - "And what have you done to change what happened!"

      Now you need to wind the snot on your fist and go ahead!

      We were the best, we can be the best, we will teach others (neither as pind0s, but as friends) to be the best !!!!