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Does NATO have to win now?

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Practically every day, one or another politician, expert or specialist in international relations gives the press a recipe for our victory over the aggressive NATO bloc. Depending on the direction of the media recipes vary. From "letting us down" to "we will punch first, and they will shut up." And all the recipes give those who are not at all threatened to personally "embed". Those who will "analyze" and "criticize for wrong actions."




Indeed, NATO today is showing unprecedented "agility" a little earlier. They are building new bases near our borders, deploying troops in neighboring countries, are seeking to conclude treaties with non-NATO members on the possibility of using their territory in the event of hostilities. And all this against the background of real cooling to us.

Perfectly described the situation of our Minister of Foreign Affairs.

"We are not inclined to overly dramatize the situation. At the same time, we certainly cannot ignore the growing negative trends emerging as a result of the course taken by NATO to consciously undermine the strategic balance of forces in Europe, including strengthening the military potential of the North Atlantic alliance near the Russian borders, creating the European segment of the global US missile defense. "

Simply put, we see your movement, we see your desire to "put in place." And we do as much as is enough for our security. It is for security. And security lies not so much in the ability to arrest the threat, as in the ability to eliminate the enemy himself.

Putin used to talk about his childhood. Including how to solve "patsansky" issues in the yard. I think that all of us remember our childhood. And fights for any reason. When it was enough to embed the leader’s insolent face, the conflict quickly faded. "Sweet" preferred to perform the role of extras. Finish the fallen or drape from the enemy in full force.

Many of the Euro-Atlantic “hawks” argue about the same today. NATO hopes that the main "fight" will be between the "leaders". And the rest will already come on the situation. Or finish off to grab your piece of "pie", or drape at full speed ...


Only this position does not pass today. No one will look for any opportunity to save the lives of citizens of countries in whose territory dangerous objects are located. Yes, and the density of the population of European countries today is such that any projectile will find "his" person. Military or civil, but will find. And it is very important that the Europeans understand this. Understood that the game with the troops and weapons in Europe threatens the personal safety of each person. A soldier or a tank near your home is a target. And the power of weapons today is such that by destroying this tank, they will also demolish the house ...

Tales about the fight against terrorism from American and European politicians and the military are no longer interesting to anyone. Already someone who, and Russia has a vast experience in the fight against terrorism. And for all offers of assistance from our side, we hear a rejection. So, they don’t really want to fight terrorists. Russia is more important to them - as the leader of "opponents of the United States."

What, in my opinion, is happening today? Why is the topic of NATO and US missile defense in Europe sounds most often in the European media? Why do we constantly hear the statements of the NATO Secretary General about the military threat to Europe from Russia?

Alas, we again "play up" NATO. Recall the NATO model of the beginning of 2000 ... At the most serious level, there was talk about the need for a bloc as such. Europeans who are able to count money talked about the extra costs of their countries. Quietly, without much pomp, they lowered the military budgets of the leading countries of the alliance. The “Yankees” also quietly behaved at military bases in Europe. Talked about the occupation of the EU by American troops.

The bloc was forced to justify its "need" with the search for enemies in Asia, Africa ... Everywhere, where at least it was possible to show its "power." It was then that NATO ideologists began to talk about the alliance as a kind of tool that could possibly go under the aegis of the UN. Such a ready-made military fist for the united nations. The fist with which they will "punch" UN decisions.

And suddenly everything changed. Europeans for some reason strongly strained in matters of their security. Why did it happen? But the reason really was and is.

The Europeans' confidence in their security after the operation, for example, in Yugoslavia was akin to Soviet pre-war confidence. "We will beat the enemy on its territory!". Our army is capable of any feat, and the enemies are weak. Because we are the most progressive country.

Absolutely the same mood was in Europe and the United States. Russia? Yes, we have already won it in the Cold War and put it on its knees. Russian army? Yes, she is demoralized and practically defeated by Chechen gangsters. And the technology that remained from the USSR has long since worked all imaginable and inconceivable terms. Rockets? And who said that they all take off?

China? Where is it? This is where old American and European technologies are being stolen, and computers that illiterate, hungry peasants gather in basements ... Is this where communism is still being built? The USSR collapsed, and China collapsed.

Who else is there? Everybody there is India, Pakistan, and other Iran ... Third World countries. Finger crush. And all sorts of Brazil and other Latinos in general in our pocket.

The first "bell", which, however, not everyone understood, struck 08.08.08. Then, when the Russian army "demoralized and armed with the old Soviet rubbish" not only successfully stopped the Georgian army prepared by the Americans, but could have seized the whole of Georgia, received such an order. And for the victory did not even need to transfer huge forces.

Further Crimea. Masterly operation. The operation, which showed not only the ability of the Russian army, but also the ability of Russian diplomacy. Carefully, without firing neutralize an equal in number army is worth a lot.

And Syria showed not only the training of the army, but also the weapons. It's one thing to scream about "cardboard tanks"It's another thing to see videos of these tanks in combat. It's one thing to talk about the capabilities of missiles, it's another thing to demonstrate these capabilities. It's one thing to talk about the advantages of your own. aviationAnother thing is to see airplanes in business. Then, when the enemy "snarls."

And if you add to the Russian "headache" more Chinese, Indian, Brazilian ... A lot of these "pains" are now among the Europeans. And it turns out that the "blue dream" of a world where Europeans are "chosen ones" simply because they can punish any country has burst. It turned out that the Chinese "from the basement" went into modern workshops and built their own spaceships, their own planes, their own tanks. And not inferior to European and American.

The settled myths about European exclusivity burst. The Europeans saw that the armies of European countries had long been turned into "toy" ones. It's one thing to bomb those who cannot, because of weakness, respond. Another thing to meet with the army, which knows how to fight.

NATO today is so menacingly "meowing" because the state of European society has changed. Europe is afraid of those who have not recently been considered to be equal people. NATO has a second wind. Means there is. Any plans to deploy troops pass with a bang. The main thing to tell about the threat.

Need a base in Poland? Immediately there is a series of stuffing about Putin’s plans to seize Bonn, Paris and Lisbon. And that's all. The base is our response to aggressive plans.

Need a base in Turkey? Other stuffing. Russia is going to deploy nuclear weapons in Armenia! And it will be aimed at southern Europe. Everything. Panic - and the base is worth it.

I think it is worth a little slow down. Deploying new connections is certainly a way to neutralize NATO. But maybe it's worth a little to speed up the modernization of the army? Maybe it is worth instead of increasing the number to invest in the development and production of new types of weapons?

After all, all our leaders, from the president to the types of commanders of the Armed Forces, have repeatedly spoken about the adequacy of forces and means for an adequate response. Just somehow I remembered the reaction of one not very friendly state after the downed plane. Reactions to the appearance in Syria of normal air defense and Su-35. Immediately somehow they stopped flying, they began to wave their fists from their territory.

I think in Europe in the same way the tanks “will laughed” along the borders and modernize the airfields, if opposite are the “Armaty” and the T-50 ... Or something else that we can only guess.

Migrants and sanctions are doing their job. And they also play on the side of Russia. If a person is accustomed to “eat well,” he will never want to share with another if he becomes “eat worse.” And the deployment of new NATO units, the deployment of new military facilities in European countries, the problems of migrants and the sanctions against Russia serve precisely the "slimming" of the European wallet.

From here, it seems to me, the change in the political map of Europe in the near future is quite real. See what's going on in France. And such a change in the political alignment of forces will change the strategy of NATO. It may happen that we will again expand the number, and then we will reduce. Tear human destiny, as it was at the end of the last century.

And finish the article is again a quote from Lavrov. Smart man quote a pleasure.

"We hope that common sense will ultimately prevail in NATO, and our Western partners will find the strength to refuse to build confrontational schemes, determined by the desire to ensure their own security at the expense of others."
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  1. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 27 May 2016 06: 43
    +1
    There was one pug on the elephant, now there are several of them. What has changed? They really will not fight with us (here we need an archive occasion), so yapping from under the fence.
    1. mig29mks
      mig29mks 27 May 2016 07: 18
      +16
      I’d rather like and prick! We are not Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yugoslavia, we are the highest prize, so to speak! Final! But the final meeting can go into a draw, such a draw where no one will record the result of the match !!!
      1. Scandinavian
        Scandinavian 27 May 2016 07: 56
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        What to expect from NATO and the WEST, when the allies can spoil, small-town nationalism has not yet been eradicated. But it is growing and acquiring more dangerous forms of influence on young people using the same YouTube, as young people are now studying only on YouTube today. Please ban and complain about the video below.

        1. jPilot
          jPilot 27 May 2016 13: 57
          +27
          Scandinavian yes you are "my friend" troll like your video, full of lies, hypocrisy and most importantly a brazen and dastardly rewriting of history. The video is an explicit order, and is created for the purpose of contention. Do you know the history of Kazakhstan yourself? How did Kazakhstan join Russia? No one has ever seized Kazakhstan, it was a PEACE AGREEMENT. Moreover, the author of this "vyser" is still trying to weave Bashkiria here. Uzbekistan was a case voluntarily compulsory, well, so
          And the Kazakh who shot this video is, first and foremost, a rotten, corrupt, unaware, and most likely knowingly distorting his own story. And his task is clearly not peaceful, but to offend and accordingly sow hostility.
          And about the "soyuznichki shit" as I understand you about yourself !?
          And since when the writer of this nonsense attributed the Russians to the Jews, because it is their nationality that is transmitted by mother, it is with our FATHER that is why we are fighting We are for the FATHERLAND, it’s me who was German to Catherine II, but considered myself RUSSIAN by the way. And so why did the German woman become the Russian Empress, you naturally know, because the kings could be of any nationality, therefore, most of the kings and suffered from hemophilia (I hope no need to explain what kind of disease) and the causes of the occurrence. Roughly speaking, all the royal people of EUROPE'S RELATIVES.
          And to call young people clowns behind their backs is generally meanness, on the part of the author of this "vyser", moreover, meanness lies in the fact that this scoundrel obviously arranged this provocation by being prepared, unlike young people.
          In any case, thanks for the video, at least now it’s clear that you should not turn your back on YOU either.
          And once again you are a TROLER and a BAD
          And your Kazakh found someone to "butt" and "truth" to look for, to find the courage and intelligence by more experienced and knowledgeable opponents? And for this, he and you who have posted this here is my personal DISSUMPTION am
          In general, for all the reposts in these "vyser" it would be nice for this Kazakh to instill a "suggestion" with you, and I think people would be more serious and more literate, your Kazakh would run very quickly and far ...
          1. efimich41
            efimich41 27 May 2016 17: 31
            +10
            jPilot (2) RU Today, 13:57 PM ↑

            Scandinavian yes you are "my friend" troll like your video, full of lies, hypocrisy and most importantly a brazen and dastardly rewriting of history. The video is an explicit order, and is created for the purpose of contention.


            Your comment is fully consistent with my impressions after watching this "video". I myself wanted to give a similar answer to this provocateur, but after reading your comment, I realized that this is unnecessary. Thank you for the disclosure of the topic and put a big "+".
          2. Scandinavian
            Scandinavian 27 May 2016 20: 30
            +3
            Pilot, you obviously did not read my message, but immediately started watching the video. Hence, such a run over to me. But I specifically asked the local people to ban the video and channels of those who upload this video to YouTube. Next time, read carefully before you roll the barrel and container !!!
            1. jPilot
              jPilot 28 May 2016 03: 47
              +6
              Hmm ..., the thing is that I first read the comment then the video. The request next time to somehow express your position more clearly wink I apologize for not understanding, I hope no offense hi Now, if you wrote in brackets after the words "soyuznichki" (nationalist Kazakhs), then your position would be immediately clear and the minus would turn into a plus winkand I wouldn’t have to write so much text laughing
              drinks
              Now I fly to Yakutia, yesterday I "relaxed" with my acquaintances Yakuts, I showed a video when the guys were "hot" lol , in all seriousness, they started to go to Kazakhstan to search for the author of the videos angry wassat laughing
              1. Scandinavian
                Scandinavian 28 May 2016 10: 59
                +2
                The pilot himself not long ago saw a nationalist who accidentally blocked the road. So he immediately remembered to me that I am a borsch and live on its land. I had to conduct an educational program with him.
        2. Sarmat149
          Sarmat149 27 May 2016 14: 57
          +8
          Scandinavian:

          Is that what it was? What the hell is this? Actually, this is inciting ethnic hatred.

          Do you want war? Will it be like with the Kazakhs? Nation "Kazakhs" ANYONE in the world except Russians does not need. With the Russians you will be Kazakhs, and with the Chinese you will be Chinese, and with others you will be whatever those others decide.

          In short, if the Russians are bothering you, sooner or later blood will be shed, after the shedding of blood, the Kazakhs will be different, like the Ukrainians. Russia will survive, it is unknown to you.

          Ready for your betrayal, I think I'm not alone.
          1. Scandinavian
            Scandinavian 27 May 2016 20: 41
            +3
            Sarmat, you as well as the pilot are not attentive! Read my comments again. The goal that I was pursuing was completely different. Unfortunately, I won’t block these videos on YouTube, but when the crowd complains, the video will be blocked and the authors who posted the video will also be blocked. Provocative videos began to appear recently, after the events in Kazakhstan. Views on YouTube are crazy. Hence the need and block them.
            1. jPilot
              jPilot 28 May 2016 04: 05
              +3
              to know how to ban what with pleasure. I went to YouTube according to your video, of course svidomye there in all its glory, but I did not see the Kazakhs comments and this is good. By the way, there is a lot of similar video. oh it will not end well, the Americans are "pressing" in all directions angry hates
              1. BEECH 1972
                BEECH 1972 29 May 2016 06: 40
                +2
                \\\ I went to your YouTube video, of course there are svidomye in all its glory, but I didn’t see the Kazakhs, and that's good.
                /// And under the video, click on "more", then on the flag to complain. In the menu that appears, select "Manifestations of intolerance and discrimination", and in the drop-down list, "Propaganda of hatred and violence". Then, in the window that opens, specify the details in a nutshell and click send. As you can see, everything is very simple. And as for people like this Kazakhs, they sing the opera with tears in their eyes, how they came to such a life, that is, to the betrayal of the Motherland. How they prepared the coup and overthrow of the legally elected government. And also who exactly coordinated their actions and provided material resources from the foreign intelligence services. Therefore, there is no one to be particularly noted in the comments on "tuyube". But on the other hand, the rest will hide in their holes and now you will lure them out even with a sweet roll, they will shit, but quietly and stealthily. And ours are much smarter and more cunning. They created the illusion of complete impunity and helplessness of the authorities, which provoked to stick out the snouts from the holes of even the most cautious swamp monsters. Moreover, not only to get out, but also to say what you want, including in violation of the laws of the Russian Federation, but of course for the time being.
            2. BEECH 1972
              BEECH 1972 29 May 2016 05: 53
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              \\\ Unfortunately, I won’t block these videos on YouTube, but when the crowd complains, the video will be blocked and the authors who posted the video will also be blocked.
              /// Enough complaints from hundreds of ordinary Tuyuba users and the video is gone, at least on this channel and in the same format. You just need to find those who constantly sit in the "tuyuba". And for this it is enough just to register on "Google +" and join a society like "patriots of Russia", well, or the like. It is only advisable to read what these patriots breathe, otherwise cyber-active liberals sometimes come across who call themselves patriots ... And if the society is correct and corresponds to its name, then you just throw a cry in its chat or write a post on your page and throws a complaint about such a video not a hundred, but a thousand or even more people. I’ve already gone and threw complaints, but you’d better still join a good society. Good luck in the fight! But Pasaran - the enemy will not pass!
        3. MarKon
          MarKon 27 May 2016 16: 34
          0
          Never before 1991 was there such a state - Kazakhstan. Until the 35th, 20th century was Kazakhstan. And the Kazakhs drove camels
        4. Talgat
          Talgat 27 May 2016 20: 10
          +4
          You are Scandinavian, to put it mildly, very wrong. It seems that you are fulfilling the order of external opponents to incite ethnic hatred

          Kazakhstan voluntarily joined Russia - this is a historical fact from any school textbooks - but it was different in details. but one must also understand. that long before the Russian Empire, our peoples lived together for thousands of years.

          Kazakhstan is the only and last republic of the USSR - which did not leave the Union until the last - and essentially remained in the Union alone - after the betrayal and withdrawal of Kuchma Yeltsin and who was from Belarus

          After this, Kazakhstan did not abandon attempts to reintegrate - and constantly tried to bring the fraternal Slavic republics back to 3 - but only under Putin and the Old Man and only 2 republics began the integration process. Ukraine is completely lost

          We all "grew" out of one essentially "Tatar-Mongolian overcoat" we must admit this

          And the Bashkirs Tatars and all other Turki steppes. which are the closest relatives to the Kazakhs, and in general with us is essentially one superethnos. and on which you also cast a shadow - and so - these peoples (both Tuvans and Altaians with it are all steppe) are the peoples that make up the Russian Empire - as Gumilev said, the union of Orthodox Slavs and the great steppe

          Your attempts to quarrel the steppe and the Russian people are simply pathetic - and I’m sure they will not find the slightest understanding either among the Russians or among the steppes

          That's like you under Stalin and probably repressed - and rightly so
          1. Scandinavian
            Scandinavian 27 May 2016 20: 24
            0
            Talgat, I didn’t do the videos, I just found them on the Internet. The whole question is for nationalists in Kazakhstan who rivet such videos. My goal was for people to watch, ban channels and videos of authors who post such videos on YouTube.
          2. EvilLion
            EvilLion 30 May 2016 08: 42
            0
            It is interesting, but the Volga Bulgars, the ancestors of the modern Tatars, settled on 1000 years ago, knew that they were the steppe?

            Kazakhstan, as a state never existed, there were zhuzes, lived in yurts, according to need for a yurt. EMNIP in the 1928th year, the KSSR only appeared with the transfer to it of part of the territory of the RSFSR.
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        6. Weyland
          Weyland 28 May 2016 00: 34
          +1
          The one who shot this video should first recall the Kazakh proverb: "Kara Kytai kaptasa - sary orys akendey bolar"!
          I did the right thing, that I dumped from Kazakhstan - because of such c-o-s-lov through the efforts of Nurik am more and more!
        7. LeftPers
          LeftPers 28 May 2016 05: 35
          +3
          Hmm, a person asks to ban the video, but they minus it, I don’t understand, he’s right.
          1. jPilot
            jPilot 28 May 2016 10: 25
            +1
            Everything is fine, sorted out. Well this is ... a mistake came out. BUT the next time, it is advisable to let his thoughts out more clearly. wink
        8. puzan00
          puzan00 30 May 2016 00: 11
          0
          I wanted to + start, but got on -, I apologize
      2. GSH-18
        GSH-18 27 May 2016 09: 54
        +2
        And the rest will already act according to the situation. Or finish off in order to snatch your piece of the "pie", or skiddle around ...

        Something tells me that most likely the second lol
        1. bastard
          bastard 27 May 2016 18: 56
          0
          Quote: GSH-18
          And the rest will already act according to the situation. Or finish off in order to snatch your piece of the "pie", or skiddle around ...
          Something tells me that most likely the second

          The third option:
          Do not touch the excrement and will not stink, then they will defeat themselves. Stop raking after them, we are not the scavengers of the world.
    2. Finches
      Finches 27 May 2016 07: 34
      +10
      NATO is not only a military, but a more political, and even more economic alliance! For its expansion there are, among other things, bonuses of the military-industrial complex and large players of transnational corporations, who bought up most of the politicians in the bud! Plus, this is a powerful tool for US influence not only on Russia, but also on its partners in Europe!
      Nevertheless, there is always a danger that the leaders of the Pentagon will play on their militaristic tendencies, which is why Russia must have forces capable of responding promptly and proportionally, but moreover, capable of delivering a preemptive strike, which will really allow, further on Lavrov, "to prevail reason "to our western" partners "!
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      2. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 27 May 2016 08: 34
        +4
        Quote: Finches
        Russia must .. capable of delivering a preemptive strike,

        "Preventive" is when "the whole world is in dust"? What do we have about prevention in the military doctrine, can you tell me?

        Quote: Finches
        I would say this - understanding about the possibility of a preventive strike and (or) the political will of the leadership of our country, do so

        What is it like? "We will show you Kuzkin's mother!" and a boot on the UN rostrum? In what way do you propose to convey to our respected Western partners the seriousness of our capabilities and intentions?
        1. Finches
          Finches 27 May 2016 10: 42
          +2
          Excerpt from the Military Doctrine of Russia:Clause 27 - "The Russian Federation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response to the use of nuclear and other types of weapons of mass destruction against it and (or) its allies, as well as in the event of aggression against the Russian Federation with the use of conventional weapons, when stated the very existence of the state " hi
        2. efimich41
          efimich41 27 May 2016 18: 02
          +2
          Ami du peuple (5) RU Today, 08: 34 ↑

          What is it like? "We will show you Kuzkin's mother!" and a boot on the UN rostrum? In what way do you propose to convey to our respected Western partners the seriousness of our capabilities and intentions?


          I do not consider Western partners "respected", and they do not look like partners. Only independent states can be respected, and Westerners are the litter of the United States.
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    4. siberalt
      siberalt 27 May 2016 07: 54
      +12
      Well-known European analysts already predict the collapse of the EU as a financial and economic pyramid. In which the bottom is getting worse and the replenishment of the new ones is over. All this hysteria about the aggressor of Russia comes down to the US unwillingness to lose the European market. Hence the use of NATO as a tool to deter the EU from collapse.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 27 May 2016 08: 15
        +3
        Quote: Finches
        a preemptive strike, which will indeed allow our Western "partners" to "prevail with reason" on Lavrov!
        In other words: in order to prevail with reason, they will first have to "use their brains". crying
        1. Finches
          Finches 27 May 2016 08: 28
          +2
          I would say this - understanding about the possibility of a preemptive strike and (or) the political will of the leadership of our country, to act in this way will precisely contribute to the dominance of their mind! hi
      2. Aryan
        Aryan 27 May 2016 12: 51
        +1
        And I think that everything is not so tragic.
        All these NATO minor bites and yapping of their mongrels from the liberals well develops the internal immunity of the Russian Federation and makes Russia stronger and healthier as a state.
        Unfortunately, sometimes at the cost of the life of Russian people, Eternal Memory to them.
    5. Altona
      Altona 27 May 2016 10: 56
      +5
      Quote: dmi.pris
      There was one pug on the elephant, now there are several of them. What has changed? They really will not fight with us (here we need an archive occasion), so yapping from under the fence.

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      Find you a reason, do not worry. The First and Second World Wars began on much smaller occasions. And they will start the war when they are convinced that we are exhausted with internal problems. To start a war with a united and mobilized adversary, such as the USSR, for example, is stupid.
  2. Valery Valery
    Valery Valery 27 May 2016 06: 49
    +9
    NATO and common sense? ... Here even Lavrov looks like a naive optimist.
    1. Sober
      Sober 27 May 2016 07: 53
      +3
      Quote: Valery Valery
      NATO and common sense? ... Here even Lavrov looks like a naive optimist.

      This is just a mild diplomatic wording. The current Russian politicians are sober, strong statesmen, and not only ...
      1. Belousov
        Belousov 27 May 2016 08: 11
        .
        Yeah, so sober and strong that with the exchange Savchenko screwed up in full for years to come.
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 27 May 2016 09: 12
          +18
          Quote: Belousov
          Yeah, so sober and strong that with the exchange Savchenko screwed up in full for years to come.


          Listen, we’ve already overcome this pro ***** forgive me! All such experts are damn in foreign policy. Chicks in the fall consider, wait and see what comes out of this circus and how long this **** will live!
        2. Altona
          Altona 27 May 2016 10: 58
          +5
          Quote: Belousov
          Yeah, sober and so strong that with the exchange Savchenko screwed up in full for years to come

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          Can't you forget her? I did not attach any importance to this news. Just think, they returned the sow back to the fur farm.
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  3. Donlomakin
    Donlomakin 27 May 2016 06: 50
    +9
    "The war with Russia is insane. We can despise this country, but we must seek friendship with it, trade, be good neighbors. Russians are a strong people ..." Lars Des-Fonteines. 1701 ...
  4. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 27 May 2016 06: 56
    +2
    And who was going to defeat him? It’s about one thing, they wouldn’t attack foolishly, it’s not for nothing that the activity of reconnaissance flights increased every 10 times. It seems that NATO has plans to annex Kaliningrad and the Kuril Islands. Because if they want to attack all of Russia, reconnaissance flights must be in other directions, Kaliningrad and, especially, the Kuril Islands are not the optimal place for the first strike.
    1. domokl
      domokl 27 May 2016 06: 58
      +6
      laughing And if they foolishly attack, then there will be no need to win?
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 27 May 2016 07: 21
        -4
        Well, you know that they won’t attack!
        So there is no need to talk about victory either - this goes without saying.
        But don’t let Boh, if something goes wrong :: from our liber-pr-va you can expect any nonsense ...
        1. domokl
          domokl 27 May 2016 07: 28
          +8
          I know that if troops are concentrated on the borders of a state, then this is not done to develop economic relations.
          But your position just speaks of your unwillingness to see a real threat. It can't be, because it can never be? In the last century, this "never" a couple of times for Russia cost a lot of blood ... For some reason I don't want more.
          1. 34 region
            34 region 27 May 2016 07: 49
            +2
            Domocles! 07.28. All of this is certainly true. Outside Russia cannot be defeated. From compression, it is like a ball, only it will be stronger. But the tactics of wars have changed today. Any strong ball is easily torn from the inside. Remember Gorbachev and the 90s. In case of war, the attack will be from the inside, not from the outside. Take Ukraine. After all, they blew it up from the inside. What about NATO troops? In Iraq and Afghanistan, there are also elven troops. Is there peace and quiet? In my opinion, NATO troops are like a detachment. So that warring people do not run away. There NATO is very successfully fighting ISIS. Just as they fought with us in the Patriotic War. We did the work, and they came to share. The same is with ISIS. The baboons will do the dirty work, and other participants will share. hi
            1. domokl
              domokl 27 May 2016 08: 10
              +6
              Quote: Region 34
              . But the tactics of wars have changed today. Any strong ball is easily torn from the inside. Remember Gorbachev and 90 years

              And I didn't forget ... However, let me remind you of the ratings of the liberal parties in Russia today. Paradoxically, Russians are really tired of the lawlessness of officials and today most of them, although this is controversial, want a "firm hand."
              What we talked about for a long time about the national idea was embodied in the idea of ​​a strong, independent state. A state capable of not only making decisions independently, but also insisting on its decisions
              1. Altona
                Altona 27 May 2016 11: 02
                +4
                Quote: domokl
                .However, let me remind you of the ratings of the liberal parties in Russia today. Paradoxically, Russians are really tired of the lawlessness of officials and today most, although it is debatable, want a "firm hand."

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                We have a rating of the right-wing liberal United Russia of about 50%. The Russians do not want a "firm hand", but order in management and a more meaningful domestic policy with a normal share of managerial responsibility. Now our manager is not responsible for anything. The necessary actions are carried out by 20-30%.
            2. Damask
              Damask 27 May 2016 08: 27
              0
              100% I agree that only the internal enemy can destroy Russia, and the army will be neutral as always, with its tongue in the ass, as in the collapse of the USSR
            3. Volzhanin
              Volzhanin 27 May 2016 08: 43
              +1
              In the current situation, an inside explosion will not be possible. There are too few traitors and collaborators. The layout is not at all the same. 100% will blossom, because the people will tear them to rags before the liberals and other dirty tricks begin to drag out.
              1. Altona
                Altona 27 May 2016 15: 04
                +3
                Quote: Volzhanin
                In the current situation, an inside explosion will not be possible. There are too few traitors and collaborators.

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                Everything is possible. Upstairs traitors and collaborators, even in abundance. And the adoption of key decisions does not depend on you and me. Never say never. The USSR also seemed an indestructible stronghold.
          2. asiat_61
            asiat_61 27 May 2016 08: 02
            +1
            Troops are usually concentrated for tourist trips, in order to familiarize themselves with the army of a neighboring state.
        2. Volzhanin
          Volzhanin 27 May 2016 08: 39
          0
          Well, these will be ready and so surrender everything without a fight.
  5. inkass_98
    inkass_98 27 May 2016 06: 59
    +11
    As for the increase and subsequent reduction of our armed forces, I can say the following: if there is a goal to return to the Arctic, to Vietnam, to Cuba, etc., then the composition of the troops will still have to be increased. We do not need such an insane amount of bases that the States have, it is enough to have them at key points in the world, but they must be equipped and equipped at the highest level. The Arctic in general should become a home, since a lot is at stake there.
    Yes, high costs, but the return will be appropriate.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 27 May 2016 07: 27
      +9
      There, the Viet Cong again offer Kamran - oh, what a great base we had there !!!
      The Cubans didn’t give Lourdes to anyone, no matter how hard the Americans tried to get it - it was also unsinkable ... hmm ... Plesetsk.
  6. Flinky
    Flinky 27 May 2016 06: 59
    -7
    What is the article about? Anyone got it?
    1. domokl
      domokl 27 May 2016 07: 02
      +9
      laughing On the state of the liquid fund in the village of Gadyukino .. Have you tried to read?
  7. ovod84
    ovod84 27 May 2016 07: 26
    +2
    It is better to meet the enemy fully armed, to be always ready to surrender and support your allies, this is the best cure for NATO.
  8. vmo
    vmo 27 May 2016 07: 27
    +1
    The dog howls, and the caravan goes on.
    1. domokl
      domokl 27 May 2016 07: 42
      +1
      repeat Are you talking about the full face of Kovtun’s face in the Russian program about Ukraine by Cat for his kitten? Something we haven’t announced this news yet ... But the Cat is really not bad at boxing lol
      1. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 27 May 2016 08: 07
        0
        Quote: domokl
        Are you talking about the full face of Kovtun’s face in the Russian program about Ukraine by Cat for his kitten? Something we haven’t announced this news yet ... But the Cat is really not bad at boxing


        Interestingly, Kovtun at Solovyov’s transmission was before, or was his fofan camouflaged ?! And he, the first-priority coward, was already asleep from his face in fright.
        1. domokl
          domokl 27 May 2016 08: 44
          +1
          Quote: B.T.W.
          And he, the first-priority coward, was already asleep from his face in fright.

          Actually, Kovtun graduated from the Higher School of the KGB of the USSR in Moscow at the time .. He only tries not to advertise it ... So then who knows what ...
          1. B.T.V.
            B.T.V. 27 May 2016 09: 10
            0
            Quote: domokl
            Actually, Kovtun graduated from the higher school of the KGB of the USSR in Moscow at the time.


            You want to say that his behavior and statements are "playing for the audience" ?!
            1. domokl
              domokl 27 May 2016 09: 26
              +1
              Quote: B.T.W.
              his behavior and statements - "playing for the audience" ?!

              Paradoxically, Kovtun is much more adequate than Karasev, for example. And you must admit, if we discard ideological differences, I am bold enough. Participate in obviously losing shows and try to defend the position of Ukraine, realizing that somewhere this position is really idiotic. It costs a lot.
              And I wrote about education because Kovtun is not an ordinary "bonehead". He is well educated. And the sight of such a "peasant simpleton" is really a mask for the public. A sort of mini Zhirinovsky ...
              1. iouris
                iouris 27 May 2016 15: 00
                0
                A person who is "well educated" and for a lot of money "defends the position of" Anti-Russia in Ukraine or in the Russian Federation is called a word that cannot be used on this site. I suspect that General Vlasov joined Anti-Russia, because the main thing for him is to be a general.
          2. Diana Ilyina
            Diana Ilyina 27 May 2016 09: 27
            +7
            Quote: domokl
            Actually, Kovtun graduated from the Higher School of the KGB of the USSR in Moscow at the time .. He only tries not to advertise it ... So then who knows what ...


            Well, I don’t know, I don’t know, the impression of him is that he is a complete d *** l according to Lavrov! If he disguises himself, then I applaud while standing at the higher school of the KGB of the USSR! But somehow I strongly doubt that Reason there, too, had something to do either with intelligence or with special services ...! So most likely these are just shifters, who at one time also participated in the collapse of the USSR.
  9. rf xnumx
    rf xnumx 27 May 2016 07: 31
    +4
    It is one thing to bomb those who cannot answer due to weakness. Another thing is to meet with an army that knows how to fight.
    1. Mikhail Matyugin
      Mikhail Matyugin 27 May 2016 17: 10
      +2
      To be honest, I'm tired of the fact that a Russian soldier is always poorly provided for in war, except for the opportunity to die for his homeland. And thank God that finally in our country in our time the army has reached a decent level not only in armaments, and with high-quality, modern weapons in large enough quantities, but also in logistics.
  10. Wolka
    Wolka 27 May 2016 07: 42
    +2
    this is agony, NATO is needed first of all by the Yankees to impose their will in Europe, but not Europe itself ...
  11. valent45
    valent45 27 May 2016 08: 09
    +3
    Guys! If Russia is strong, Neighbors (Belarus, Kazakhstan) will be our friends.
    God forbid, the 5th column will come, not a single friend will remain.
  12. Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky 27 May 2016 08: 13
    0
    One-way answer - Needed !!!
  13. borov
    borov 27 May 2016 08: 15
    -1
    China? Where is it? This is where old American and European technologies are being stolen, and computers that illiterate, hungry peasants gather in basements ... Is this where communism is still being built? The USSR collapsed, and China collapsed.

    Does the author think so? Or does the author think they think so in Europe? smile
    http://utmagazine.ru/posts/10002-betonometry-kitaya-trafik
    1. domokl
      domokl 27 May 2016 08: 47
      +1
      belay Hmm ... There’s nothing to answer ... Do you know what sarcasm is? Or snatch a phrase out of the general context and suck it in correctly? That is what Europeans thought. By the way, and we ... recall an old joke?
      About the fact that Chinese aviation will not participate in the attack on the USSR. Did the pilot get sick? No?
  14. Belousov
    Belousov 27 May 2016 08: 15
    +3
    As already correctly noted outside Russia can not be defeated. It can be defeated only from within. Let's remember where were the children of Stalin during the Great Patriotic War? And where are the children of our officials and oligarchs? What policy is pursued by the authorities in relation to the family, education, health care? So the main question is, will the rulers give an order to retaliate?
    1. cap
      cap 27 May 2016 08: 40
      0
      Quote: Belousov
      What policy is pursued by the authorities in relation to the family, education, health care? So the main question is, will the rulers give an order to retaliate?


      And you do not hesitate! The blow will be delivered. Personally, I have no doubt about that.
  15. Aleksander
    Aleksander 27 May 2016 08: 17
    +3
    I think it is worth a little slow down. Deploying new connections is certainly a way to neutralize NATO. But maybe it's worth a little to speed up the modernization of the army? Maybe it is worth instead of increasing the number to invest in the development and production of new types of weapons?


    Russia is already behind: NATO is already deploying new formations in the Baltic states, Romania, Bulgaria, and is transferring equipment there. We all know very well that NATO forces are focusing for the ATTACK. As it was ALWAYS in history. How can you NOT answer, and immediately, the deployment of additional troops in these areas? This is a necessary measure. Modernization should go in parallel.
    1. domokl
      domokl 27 May 2016 09: 11
      +2
      Quote: Aleksander
      Russia is already lagging behind: NATO is already deploying new formations in the Baltic states, Romania, Bulgaria,

      Hmm ... theoretically, you can agree. And practically? You are the population size, you just know the whole EU? And in the Russian Federation?
      We cannot afford a huge army. we have no people ... our women did not give birth. So the option "we will throw our hats" is not possible. Europe has many times more "hats" ...
  16. realist
    realist 27 May 2016 08: 34
    +2
    NATO is not only a military alliance but also a political one, the raison d'être of its existence is the fight against the enemy and they did not have and do not have any other enemy besides the Russians .... rely on their prudence - the lavrov diplomat and optimist, but sometimes he is a realist stupid people ... me "). And you shouldn't wait for the warming - the new members of NATO are huge incomes of the military industrial complex, and the military lobby will not refuse them. it is necessary to prepare sufficient potential for the enemy to be scared!
  17. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 27 May 2016 08: 38
    +3
    Let every European hamster know and understand, if something happens, they will be the first to fry in this war, moreover, they won’t even have a good time, and we’ll deal with the states with strategic missiles and Caliber, one of their reserves with a volcano is worth what Amerikosov and Canada desert field will remain. It’s just that our diplomats and the media must hourly, daily convey this truth to the PEOPLES of these countries
    1. domokl
      domokl 27 May 2016 09: 16
      +2
      Emotionally, but essentially true. It is necessary to explain to ordinary European citizens the possible consequences of a NATO attack on Russia or vice versa. Weapon rattling today is fraught for everyone. And it is fraught simply with the disappearance of the planet. Humanity will simply create another asteroid belt ...
  18. 96423lom
    96423lom 27 May 2016 08: 46
    0
    The saddest thing is that they, with their test education, have an idea of ​​a nuclear strike mainly in the pictures. Physics, which gives an in-depth understanding of all processes, they hardly teach in schools. So. that having calculated that they can try more missiles.
    1. domokl
      domokl 27 May 2016 09: 17
      0
      Education has long been the inheritance of a narrow circle of people. The rest know everything and everything ... and nothing concrete.
      Even the comments show how right you are. Patriotism overshadows the logic of thinking
  19. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 27 May 2016 08: 49
    0
    In the event of a military conflict between NATO and Russia, it will not be a priori non-nuclear and, as a result, last for the World. Only the World will be the last to know about it ....
    1. domokl
      domokl 27 May 2016 09: 21
      +1
      Quote: avg-mgn
      he will not be a priori non-nuclear

      Alas, contrary to conventional wisdom, modern non-nuclear weapons are worse than nuclear weapons. Another issue, nuclear destroys territories. and most states do not want this. But non-nuclear destroys the population and specific objects.
      But the fact that the conflict will be the last, you are right ... "dead hand", bone leg and some kind of severed head exist in nuclear countries. And the blow of retaliation will be the last for all.
  20. Adagka
    Adagka 27 May 2016 09: 00
    -9
    I wonder who these articles are for? What kind of war? All will be handed over long ago by effective managers and pseudo-generals bought with giblets; I will not send far examples of Saddam and Gaddafi far into history. And I don’t need to poke the Second World War, then there was a system and an idea, and urapatriots only fight heroes on the Internet, if someone knocks horseradish to the front.
  21. fif21
    fif21 27 May 2016 09: 09
    +3
    All this has already happened! And more than once. request Troops of any European country at the borders of Russia and Drang Nakh Osten. NATO and Russian troops are a "barrel of gunpowder". One wrong step and war is inevitable, whether we like it or not request It was not possible to divide NATO and Russia with a buffer of neutral countries. NATO climbs to the borders of Russia, and not vice versa! The conclusion is obvious. The presence of nuclear weapons and vast territory gives the Russians confidence in victory over any aggressor. By its actions (expansion), NATO has strengthened the Russians' faith in the inevitability of war, and the experience of previous wars suggests that Russia will live in peace only if it renounces humanism in relation to the vanquished. Russia wants peace and equal partnerships, and the West, with its terrible Russophobia, wants to dictate its will to Russia, regardless of its interests. hi
    1. domokl
      domokl 27 May 2016 09: 29
      +2
      Quote: fif21
      . Russia wants peace and equal partnerships, and the West, with its terrible Russophobia, wants to dictate its will to Russia regardless of its interests.

      Again, the old truth-Do you want peace-prepare for war ... And you can not argue ... Axiom, her mother ...
  22. fif21
    fif21 27 May 2016 09: 19
    +2
    Title of the article- Is it necessary to defeat NATO now?
    And when do you command him to defeat? Again near Moscow, Volgograd and St. Petersburg? Or maybe on the Ural ridge? am There is no hope for the self-dissolution of NATO. But the desire to enslave Russia was and is.
    1. gg.na
      gg.na 27 May 2016 09: 31
      +1
      Quote: fif21
      There is no hope for the self-dissolution of NATO. But the desire to enslave Russia was and is.

      Briefly accurate and very relevant! You + good

      And when do you command him to defeat? Again near Moscow, Volgograd and St. Petersburg? Or maybe on the Ural ridge? am and the West, with its terrible Russophobia, wants to dictate to Russia its will, regardless of its interests. And again to you + good !!! Are you by any chance Sergei Mikheev ?! My favorite politician !!! With all due respect to you !!! yes smile
    2. domokl
      domokl 27 May 2016 09: 33
      +1
      laughing Will you go to win your tank? Have you carefully read the article? Is there talk about war on its territory? It says that NATO can only be stopped by force. Ten wimps will probably be able to defeat one strong man. Only it is troublesome. But the stronger man calmly calm the attacker without even using force. It is scary when there is a real opportunity to get a real and serious rebuff
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  24. Gato
    Gato 27 May 2016 10: 09
    +1
    And why should he (NATO) defeat? It itself will defeat the politics of tolerance and other insanities. I do not want to vang, but Europe with its uh ... values ​​will lay a bomb in the ass of this block.
  25. Victor-M
    Victor-M 27 May 2016 11: 09
    +1
    I think it’s worth a little slow down. Deploy New Connections of course a way to neutralize NATO. But maybe it’s worth a little speed up the modernization of the army? Perhaps, instead of increasing the number, it is worth investing in the development and production of new types of weapons?

    After all, all our leaders, from the president to the commanders of the armed forces, have repeatedly talked about the adequacy of forces and means for an adequate response. I just somehow remembered the reaction of one not very friendly state after the downed plane. Reactions to the appearance in Syria of normal air defense and Su-35. Immediately somehow stopped flying, began to wave fists from their territory.

    I think in Europe in the same way the tanks “will laughed” along the borders and modernize the airfields, if opposite are the “Armaty” and the T-50 ... Or something else that we can only guess.

    The author contradicts himself, on the one hand says that it is not necessary to increase the number of bases, and on the other, he says that it is necessary, but only with the latest technology, and you need to prepare the infrastructure for this latest technology and personal personnel. So it is better to equip it in advance, taking into account the characteristics of modern military equipment and realities, than then in a hurry to sculpt it in haste. Get your sleigh ready in the summer!
    1. domokl
      domokl 27 May 2016 14: 03
      0
      read the article carefully ...
  26. South Ural
    South Ural 27 May 2016 11: 11
    +1
    Unfortunately, we need both the size of the army and its training. And about a technically perfect weapon and say nothing!
  27. Petrik66
    Petrik66 27 May 2016 11: 53
    +2
    The military component in the actions of the West is only one of several. the fact that we will cope with the military threat is already clear, not for the first time. But there are three others: the incomparability of the economic and technological potential of the parties - we are actually deprived of sales markets, our main gas markets: the EU, Ukraine, Turkey. sooner or later, with such elites, they will be partially lost for us. And gas is converted into political and economic influence. gas is an example, but it is too revealing. The third component is "soft power" - we have too many unstable swamps with iPhones, and if you add cattle on a Bentley with a London residence permit, then this topic is more than relevant for the development of the State Department. Having such flower beds of potential clients of the American embassy as the HSE and the journalism faculty of Moscow State University, it is time to think, and not deal with them according to the NTV scheme, etc. And finally - the absence of a consolidated opposition to the Western world: the SCOs, Brix ... well, obviously they do not pull at even remote compliance with NATO, the EU, etc. The Americans famously cleared South America of unwanted elements, not BRICS, but RICS ..... Who's next? The situation is still far from calm for the bear, and he is not sitting in an armchair, but snarls at the hunting dogs, but they are poisoning us.
    1. cap
      cap 27 May 2016 13: 23
      0
      Quote: Petrik66
      Having such flower beds of potential clients of the American embassy as the Higher School of Economics and the journalism department of Moscow State University, it’s time to think, rather than deal with them according to the NTV scheme, etc. And finally - the lack of a consolidated opposition to the Western world: the SCO, the Brix ... well, obviously they are not drawn to at least distant compliance with NATO, the EU, etc. Amerikos famously cleared South America from undesirable elements, not BRICS, but RIKS ..... Who are the next? The situation is far from calm for the bear, and he does not sit in the chair, but snarls from the hunting dogs, They poison us - however.


      You raised the bar high in your grades, but there’s nothing to object to. good
  28. Corvetkapitan
    Corvetkapitan 27 May 2016 12: 48
    +2
    Complete nonsense. In the 80s and 90s, Russia disarmed unilaterally, and in return received an expansion of the NATO bloc and US military bases at its borders. You don’t have to fight NATO, it needs to be destroyed, but for this it is necessary, on occasion, to wipe one of the six US from the face of the earth. That Turkey shot down a plane of the Air Force of the Russian Federation and it was necessary to answer, so that in Washington they would put pants on ... I’m sure the United States wouldn’t get involved in a war with Russia over Turkey, and after Russia put Turkey in place faith in the USA in all Baltic countries would fall to zero ...
    1. domokl
      domokl 27 May 2016 14: 05
      0
      Do you personally go to the front to erase someone there? and second, but nothing that the potential of NATO today is higher than Russian? Or for the sake of some lofty goals your people in the furnace?
      1. Corvetkapitan
        Corvetkapitan 27 May 2016 14: 40
        0
        What can you offer from yourself? Unilateral disarmament of Russia, against the background of the constant expansion of NATO and the emergence of new military bases near the borders of the Russian Federation? Has it ever occurred to you that new US military bases near the borders of the Russian Federation are not just appearing and the United States is preparing to strike at the Russian Federation? We already once listened to people like you, `` peacekeepers '', in the 80s, 90s, Russia disarmed, dissolved the Warsaw Pact, and the dear to your heart the United States did not disarm, did not dissolve NATO ... So do not let your advice, you need to repent for the past ...
  29. DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer 27 May 2016 13: 51
    +1
    Not interesting - personal opinion of the author, soaring in personal fallacies based on the propaganda of state channels.

    You, in addition to state propaganda, also use sources of information - it will be easier, otherwise your "Kiselevskie" speech cliches slip by.
    Before writing about the "problems of Europe", I would recommend going there once.
    Their problems are a tiny fraction of Russian PROBLEMS.

    "Hawks" and they and we are engaged in rhetoric, only our BALABOLS are of no use, except to raise the degree of trembling, and their "Hawks" have found a grateful topic - the meaning of NATO's existence and are trying to inflate the budget. That so far they have not been very successful.
    1. domokl
      domokl 27 May 2016 14: 08
      0
      Comment from the series -A in Yakutia, the veteran has not been given an apartment until now? Tell me honestly, are you really watching Kiselyov? This is not a joke. It’s just that, for example, I don’t know anyone who is watching ... Although I live in Russia like you ... I read more about this name in the Ukrainian media.
      And then, do you know the author? Do you know for sure that he does not happen in Europe? Again, not for fun .. Just a question ...
    2. black
      black 27 May 2016 14: 43
      0
      Very familiar and template rhetoric. grandmothers and teenagers on another resource, it will not work here. So comrade Dimer, maybe home?
  30. black
    black 27 May 2016 14: 54
    0
    Everything is happening right. The US is trying to bend its vassals to military spending. And they don’t want, oh they don’t want. They like to consider denyuzhku. Either invest in the defense industry or in the social sphere. And what is more profitable to politicians. It is clear that social. There will be no war, but elections will be soon. And then there are refugees. And opposition parties, which on any cutback in social programs, will make themselves PR. And the economy is shaking. And unemployment, in the same Spain - 20%. Eurosceptics and all sorts of right-wingers are gaining strength. You can count on fingers the European countries, where the population, in general, is pretty government. But this is not Germany and not France. Once we tried to run ahead of the engine and overstrained. Let them run now. And we'll see.
  31. iouris
    iouris 27 May 2016 15: 04
    0
    Is it possible to defeat NATO now?
    You must defeat yourself.
  32. jurikberlin
    jurikberlin 27 May 2016 20: 17
    0
    Quote: domokl
    So the option "we throw our hats" is not possible. Europe has many times more "hats" ...

    maybe so, or maybe not. many of the european ,, hats ,, are able to cause fire on themselves? they love life too much.
  33. esaul1950
    esaul1950 27 May 2016 20: 59
    0
    Quote: jPilot
    Scandinavian yes you are "my friend" troll like your video, full of lies, hypocrisy and most importantly a brazen and dastardly rewriting of history. The video is an explicit order, and is created for the purpose of contention. Do you know the history of Kazakhstan yourself? How did Kazakhstan join Russia? No one has ever seized Kazakhstan, it was a PEACE AGREEMENT. Moreover, the author of this "vyser" is still trying to weave Bashkiria here. Uzbekistan was a case voluntarily compulsory, well, so
    And the Kazakh who shot this video is, first and foremost, a rotten, corrupt, unaware, and most likely knowingly distorting his own story. And his task is clearly not peaceful, but to offend and accordingly sow hostility.
    And about the "soyuznichki shit" as I understand you about yourself !?
    And since when the writer of this nonsense attributed the Russians to the Jews, because it is their nationality that is transmitted by mother, it is with our FATHER that is why we are fighting We are for the FATHERLAND, it’s me who was German to Catherine II, but considered myself RUSSIAN by the way. And so why did the German woman become the Russian Empress, you naturally know, because the kings could be of any nationality, therefore, most of the kings and suffered from hemophilia (I hope no need to explain what kind of disease) and the causes of the occurrence. Roughly speaking, all the royal people of EUROPE'S RELATIVES.
    And to call young people clowns behind their backs is generally meanness, on the part of the author of this "vyser", moreover, meanness lies in the fact that this scoundrel obviously arranged this provocation by being prepared, unlike young people.
    In any case, thanks for the video, at least now it’s clear that you should not turn your back on YOU either.
    And once again you are a TROLER and a BAD
    And your Kazakh found someone to "butt" and "truth" to look for, to find the courage and intelligence by more experienced and knowledgeable opponents? And for this, he and you who have posted this here is my personal DISSUMPTION am
    In general, for all the reposts in these "vyser" it would be nice for this Kazakh to instill a "suggestion" with you, and I think people would be more serious and more literate, your Kazakh would run very quickly and far ...

    I completely agree. G. Kunaev said: "We can't give up our Russian brother, he taught us how to pee while standing, but there is no poop yet." This is for the idiot who made the video. I respect all peoples, but there is everywhere.
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    2. Weyland
      Weyland 28 May 2016 01: 29
      0
      Quote: esaul1950
      G. Kunaev said: "We cannot abandon our Russian brother


      Kunaev - it was a MAN hinot a couple of Nuriku am
  34. ILIA
    ILIA 28 May 2016 03: 38
    0
    Duc can someone smaller shchimanem))) and then let's say .. do not give the same back))
  35. Volksib
    Volksib 28 May 2016 09: 03
    0
    Russia, without unnecessary fanfare and advertising, is deploying new divisions on the basis of brigades. Recreates the legendary 1st Guards Tank Army. With a very rich and glorious military past. It's like with girls someone always brags about their exploits and causes irony, ridicule ... And who that is real ..... t and silently but everyone also knows and respects. So everything is normal, the show is show they have there. 4 battalions well, obviously ooooochen "THREAT" force to protect Eastern Europe. Yes, loyal dogs are in a panic because as they understand that there is no protection, but we are still a new tank army well ... without much ado ... but everyone knows ...
  36. cedar
    cedar 30 May 2016 06: 16
    0
    NATO, first of all, and the very beginning of its formation, is the USA!
    The whole capitalist world waged a “cold” war with the USSR; the USA was again at the forefront of this war of two systems. The Soviet Union lost the Cold War and was defeated primarily by the United States.
    As a result of the defeat, the USSR did not just cease to exist, but fell under the external control of the winner - the USA! Such is the law of all war, of victory and defeat in it.
    These laws are inapplicable and operate with iron force, and we have felt their effect on our own skin for 25 years, but we are afraid to admit ourselves to the military-political and financial-economic defeat of 1991. On the one hand, psychological defense is triggered; on the other, the occupation media are interested in the relatively soft exploitation of the human and material resources of the defeated enemy, in our case, Russia.
    Power in Russia is divided into three components. Executive, legislative, judicial.
    Today we have external control of “our” executive branch, that is ministries and departments, both central and regional. To do this, they introduced advisers to the so-called consulting companies, headquarters, which are located in NATO countries and, above all, through one in London. 10 “advisers” plus helpers, have been introduced into the main centers of management, banking and business in Russia.
    The legislation of Russia is completely tied to the US State Department. Over the past 25 years, more than 4000 basic laws have been launched onto Russia’s head. On the basis of which, here, at their direction, “our” legislators have created for specific control and management of all and all of 20 by-laws !!! The basic law, the Constitution of the Russian Federation is also created behind a "puddle", in it our colonial existence is forever fixed forever! The referendum on its change is proclaimed, but tightly blocked!
    The judiciary, in Article 15 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, is completely dependent on Western legislation, since paragraph 4 of this article proclaims the priority of international treaties over Russian legislation! It is enough for five NATO countries to bake the treaty, as it becomes international and accordingly binding on the judicial authorities of Russia, both in the center and in the regions!
    That is why the decrees of our popularly elected President to officials and judges DO NOT ORDER! And such an “order” ... of things in the system of governing the country is laid down and proclaimed by the Constitution, the guarantor of the fulfillment of which MUST be a popularly elected President!
    Three times, Putin tried to take the CBR, i.e. to pull Russia out of the carensiborn stranglehold thrown by the Fed over her throat and save us from constant financial suffocation, but the US Federal Reserve tightly clung to this noose and Putin did not have the strength to disrupt it. But even if it was enough, it’s not enough to take power over the Central Bank, over the printing press, you still need to keep the conquered, and for this we need above all sufficient forces, ARMS FORCES! ARMY and Navy, and above all armed with the idea of ​​liberating their trampled Fatherland, the US-NATO invader, the people of the Army and Navy! What the author is not gu-gu ...
    So do we, dear ones, need to defeat NATO, not somewhere, once, but here and now ?!
    I tried to make the answer obvious, but it's up to you, everyone in their place.
  37. Rock616
    Rock616 31 May 2016 14: 02
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    FASHINGTON must be destroyed !!! am drinks am