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OPK is working to equip the second aircraft of the “Doomsday” 2 generation

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The Russian Defense Ministry ordered 2 air control points (VZPU) of the second generation on the basis of IL-80, the first of which has already been transferred to the military department, reports Look with reference to the representative of the United Instrument Making Corporation.




“The Ministry of Defense has set the task of creating two second generation UCUs, the work is carried out by our Nizhny Novgorod enterprise Polet,” said a representative of the military-industrial complex.

“The plane is reliable, the documented service life of such equipment can reach 20 years. However, in modern conditions, the update is much faster, the approximate lifespan is up to 2025, ”he said.

“The first such aircraft has already been transferred to the Russian Defense Ministry,” the source added.

Earlier, a representative of the military-industrial complex reported that third-generation Upps will be created on the basis of an improved IL-96-400.

According to the general director of the defense industry, Alexander Yakunin, "the third generation of air control points based on the Il-96 will appear in Russia in five to seven years."

Help newspaper: “Air control points were called doomsday planes in the USA: they were supposed to be involved in a nuclear war, if ground control structures were destroyed. The most famous of these specialized aircraft are the American E-4B based on Boeing-747 liners and Russian Il-80, developed on the basis of passenger Il-86. "
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  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 26 May 2016 13: 35
    +7
    and what happens "the Second Judgment Day" ??? however ... I thought one was enough. what
    According to the general director of the defense industry, Alexander Yakunin, "the third generation of air control points based on the Il-96 will appear in Russia in five to seven years."
    well, with such optimistic forecasts, you can live ...
    1. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 26 May 2016 13: 42
      +14
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      and what happens "the Second Judgment Day" ???

      - Yes, no matter how many of these "doomsday" days were, but the new air control points will not be superfluous!
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 26 May 2016 13: 58
        -7
        Quote: oldseaman1957
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        and what happens "the Second Judgment Day" ???

        - Yes, no matter how many of these "doomsday" days were, but the new air control points will not be superfluous!

        listen, "old sailor" ... doomsday, there will be only One. So? who will find "board number 2" - aliens? I am sure that they are already crammed there, conceivable and conceivable, well ... two ... let's say ... the sensors flew out like on a VAZ, it didn't start ... the second, by the way. third ... why do a lot if you don't know which one to fly? so you can set up a whole strip of "boards" "if there is no certainty, can it be better to shoot someone? then the reliability will increase ... (yes, I am a supporter of preventive cleaning of emal, otherwise, it does not work ... mentality ...)
        1. poquello
          poquello 26 May 2016 14: 07
          +3
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          Quote: oldseaman1957
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          and what happens "the Second Judgment Day" ???

          - Yes, no matter how many of these "doomsday" days were, but the new air control points will not be superfluous!

          listen, "old sailor" ... doomsday, there will be only One. So? who will find "board number 2" - aliens? I am sure that they are already crammed there, conceivable and conceivable, well ... two ... let's say ... the sensors flew out like on a VAZ, it didn't start ... the second, by the way. third ... why do a lot if you don't know which one to fly? so you can set up a whole strip of "boards" "if there is no certainty, can it be better to shoot someone? then the reliability will increase ... (yes, I am a supporter of preventive cleaning of emal, otherwise, it does not work ... mentality ...)

          it's still a plane, not an ark, command should be
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 26 May 2016 18: 50
            -2
            Quote: poquello
            Quote: Andrew Y.
            Quote: oldseaman1957
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            and what happens "the Second Judgment Day" ???

            - Yes, no matter how many of these "doomsday" days were, but the new air control points will not be superfluous!

            listen, "old sailor" ... doomsday, there will be only One. So? who will find "board number 2" - aliens? I am sure that they are already crammed there, conceivable and conceivable, well ... two ... let's say ... the sensors flew out like on a VAZ, it didn't start ... the second, by the way. third ... why do a lot if you don't know which one to fly? so you can set up a whole strip of "boards" "if there is no certainty, can it be better to shoot someone? then the reliability will increase ... (yes, I am a supporter of preventive cleaning of emal, otherwise, it does not work ... mentality ...)

            it's still a plane, not an ark, command should be

            belay
        2. Kite
          Kite 26 May 2016 17: 38
          +1
          There may be one day, but only at the very beginning of this day you need to have time to get to one of the N-VPU. And our country is big!
          1. dima mzk
            dima mzk 27 May 2016 11: 54
            0
            and the person probably doesn’t understand what country he lives in, for example, let’s say 4000 km to Moscow and a little more to Vladivostok, he thinks this is Switzerland
      2. Stalker.1977
        Stalker.1977 26 May 2016 14: 20
        +3
        And the cars rose from the ashes of nuclear fire .............. laughing
      3. demchuk.ig
        demchuk.ig 26 May 2016 15: 27
        0
        Quote: oldseaman1957
        - Yes, no matter how many of these "doomsday" days were, but the new air control points will not be superfluous!

        God forbid that these planes are not useful!
    2. Bobxnumx
      Bobxnumx 26 May 2016 13: 44
      +3
      Reserve for substitution is always needed. angry
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 26 May 2016 14: 23
        0
        Quote: Bob0859
        Reserve for substitution is always needed. angry

        lope ??? winked well, 2nd ... well, 3rd ... well ... so the industry is reorienting itself to the production of "boards" ... 2 a-I agree, a backup is needed ... well there, grab a gardener, maids, dogs ... (just kidding ) (I agree, it's a bad joke, but I don't care, I'm afraid at the wrong age ...)
    3. evil partisan
      evil partisan 26 May 2016 14: 35
      0
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      "Second Judgment Day" ??? however ... I thought one was enough.

      The Second Judgment Day is like a control in the head, but already on a global scale. yes
      Hi, amateur from fishing! drinks
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 26 May 2016 14: 47
        +1
        Quote: Angry Guerrilla
        Hi, amateur from fishing!

        Zdarova, amateur for women ... lol hi
    4. Homo
      Homo 26 May 2016 16: 16
      +1
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      and what happens "the Second Judgment Day" ???

      What are you talking about? Are you reading well? This article is about the second aircraft, the second generation. There is not a word about the second day of judgment. Or, as always, just to crow!
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 26 May 2016 19: 50
        -3
        first of all, to the old-timer of the site-respect, well, and a slap in the face ...
        Quote: Homo
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        and what happens "the Second Judgment Day" ???
        What are you talking about? Are you reading well? This article is about the second aircraft, the second generation. There is not a word about the second day of judgment. Or, as always, just to crow!

        do you read well? one is, the second is, that is, the first is not reliable? let’s like D-2, D-3, save up for motorcycles ... no, I’m not joking, I understand (tea, I don’t use cabbage soup ...) the point is in a different hypostasis, why take THIS out to a general observatory? (I just want a clear answer, even EBN, did not advertise his "".
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 26 May 2016 20: 06
          -2
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          I want a clear answer,

          understandably ... past the checkout .... there is a queue for the "pluses" ....
          1. jPilot
            jPilot 27 May 2016 05: 50
            0
            Calm guys wink, I’ll explain everything.
            Representatives of the "second oldest", as always, "heard the ringing."
            This is just a VPU (air command post) in Russian, the Main Headquarters with wings. These aircraft have a mediocre relationship to the "Doomsday" system or the real name "perimeter system", the Americans call it "the dead hand".
            The main component of the system is an information rocket, it is installed in a granite mine (which protects it from any influences) in the Urals, together with a logical control complex that assesses the country's vital activity by thousands of parameters, I do not exclude the presence of a human component of the complex. And when all the factors add up and the system decides that massive nuclear weapons have been inflicted across the country and the air defense systems have failed, that is, by the mercy of the amers (God forbid), the animal "scribe" came to us crying
            in automatic mode, a rocket is launched, the main task of which, flying from the Urals to the Far East, is to give a command to all missiles to strike the United States. This is the "Doomsday"
            And the plane cannot, by definition, refer to the "doomsday" because it will simply fly away in the air from the very first shock wave, and even more accurately it will not even have time to take off request
            By the way, in the worst case. These "pri ... ki": the EU, Poles, Labus and all the rest of the campaign think that We will not be, but they will remain fool then they are still big nerds, Amerov’s blow will sweep away ALL, and Africa will also be hooked.
    5. dima mzk
      dima mzk 27 May 2016 11: 30
      0
      in fact, no one was talking about the 2nd day of judgment, we are talking about a second-generation aircraft, do you even think when reading with your head?
  3. Yarik76
    Yarik76 26 May 2016 13: 37
    0
    Serious car 'but it is better that there is no need to use it for its intended purpose!
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 26 May 2016 14: 48
      -2
      Quote: Yarik76
      Serious car 'but it is better that there is no need to use it for its intended purpose!

      he is in the air, always as intended.
  4. weksha50
    weksha50 26 May 2016 13: 40
    +4
    Whoever says anything, but VzPU is the right machine ...

    However, there are problems too ...
    The enemy still knows the RPM of this aircraft, because all the time it will not be in the air ... It will be tracked thoroughly ...
    On board should be a person who has the authority and is able to give the order to defeat the same nuclear triad ... Will the team with this person manage to boot into the plane and get out of the attack ??? And after all, during the threatened period, he cannot fly for days ...

    So what the next modern VzPU is doing is good, but anyway it's not a panacea ...

    So it’s better to keep a potential adversary (although how potential he is, when everything has already become clear for a long time) is necessary in such a tone that he is afraid to attack Russia ...
    1. GeorgeSev85
      GeorgeSev85 26 May 2016 13: 43
      +2
      I agree not a panacea but a necessary thing.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 26 May 2016 13: 51
        0
        The more there will be such truly incomplete elements in our security system, the more forces and means the enemy needs to spend to suppress or overcome it.
        P.S. And the order "three red rockets" may not be given from him at all, although it will be an airplane.
    2. Telakh
      Telakh 26 May 2016 13: 50
      0
      Just a day can. With refueling.
      Striped bobbing, if I’m not mistaken, is designed for 48 hours of barrage, but in practice I haven’t flown more than 24's.
      1. masiya
        masiya 26 May 2016 14: 58
        +1
        who will fill up his poor then when everything is ready below ...
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 26 May 2016 20: 19
        -1
        Quote: Telakh
        however, in practice, more than 24 did not fly.

        figured: no refueling ...
    3. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 26 May 2016 20: 04
      -1
      Quote: weksha50
      The enemy still knows the RPM of this aircraft, because all the time it will not be in the air ... It will be tracked thoroughly ...

      this is ... as it were softer .... to say the least ... every warming up of an emergency engine! and THIS IS THE NORM. we have the same way...
  5. Ros 56
    Ros 56 26 May 2016 13: 49
    +4
    I once sued some foolish ones, so I couldn’t count these judicial days, the case lasted for two and a half years, in the end I won and this is the main thing.
    Therefore, no one knows which day will be the last, and you need to be prepared for this 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, so let them do it. This, as I understand it, is that very dead hand.
    1. Telakh
      Telakh 26 May 2016 13: 53
      +4
      The Perimeter system is a complex of automatic control of a massive retaliatory nuclear strike, originally designed as fully automatic and capable of making a decision without human intervention.

      The control panel must provide communication so that the "Perimeter" does not work.
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 26 May 2016 14: 36
      -1
      Quote: Ros 56
      I once sued some foolish ones, so I couldn’t count these judicial days, the case lasted for two and a half years

      I sympathize with the "silly" ... where did they get their arguments, after the 1st judgment day? or as a colleague "stalker" quoted "terminator": Stalker.1977 (2) RU Today, 14:20 ↑ New
      And the cars rose from the ashes of nuclear fire ............. belay
  6. pavelty
    pavelty 26 May 2016 13: 55
    +3
    Why did we steal the name from the Americans? They called it somehow after our "flying arctic fox", "all the end", "cheerful zvizdets", finally, but you never know options.
    1. megafair
      megafair 26 May 2016 14: 32
      0
      And we call the System "Perimeter" in the west, they nicknamed the "Dead Hand" or "Dead Man's Hand"
  7. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 26 May 2016 14: 04
    0
    With this "black" (let's not poke your fingers) and until the day of judgment, not so far!
  8. vit
    vit 26 May 2016 14: 08
    +3
    it would not be bad to revive the system of bomb shelters. in my opinion no less important thing in the defense of the state.
    1. megafair
      megafair 26 May 2016 14: 34
      0
      Quietly, in a whisper "Already started to mind"They do it without excessive advertising.
  9. shinobi
    shinobi 26 May 2016 14: 35
    +1
    And "Perimeter" was restarted? That is also a nightmare for the Yankes.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 26 May 2016 14: 50
      +1
      Quote: shinobi
      And "Perimeter" was restarted? That is also a nightmare for the Yankes.

      This is a nightmare for everyone, however, neither officially confirmed nor disproved ...
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 May 2016 15: 04
      +2
      Most likely there is no such system as the Perimeter, since this is an autonomous missile launch control system in itself - computer intelligence that is independent of anyone and if it fails, then it can decide to launch nuclear missiles in peacetime.
      1. Igor V
        Igor V 26 May 2016 15: 24
        0
        When I served in the army thirty and a half years ago, we had some equipment on the switch (indoors). She blinked merrily at the LEDs, the fans turned on, was mounted on a sprung platform (tilted freely). The chief of communications reluctantly replied that this was an alert equipment and nothing else, although he always answered willingly and in detail with questions about communications. For 1,5 years of my service, after training, there was never a single maintenance, and no man had ever appeared about these racks. Sometimes, however, a special agent came in. smile When the power went out, and this was often due to a nearby company, this equipment continued to work. I’m thinking, wasn’t it part of the Perimeter?
        1. FID
          FID 26 May 2016 15: 38
          +1
          Quote: Igor V
          She had a fun wink at the LEDs

          30 years ago, LEDs ??? Fear God, dear ... Bulbs, ordinary bulbs ...
          1. Sergey333
            Sergey333 26 May 2016 18: 31
            +2
            AL102 and AL307 red and green have been put on all digital technology for more than 30 years (and by the way are still available)
          2. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 26 May 2016 20: 35
            0
            Quote: SSI
            30 years ago, LEDs ??? Fear God, dear ... Bulbs, ordinary bulbs ...

            Sergey ... with all due respect: not "Ordinary light bulbs" ... remember which "figure" was highlighted? winkI have on the RSP-10, this was ....
            1. rudolff
              rudolff 26 May 2016 20: 55
              +2
              So this is the light bulb. Vacuum indicator. I have already forgotten, but in the upper picture there is something from a variety of IN, and in the lower IW. Soldered them in his youth.
          3. glasha3032
            glasha3032 27 May 2016 00: 39
            +2
            On KPA -2, the Absu145 and 200 already in 1985 set LEDs.
      2. Alexandr-NVR
        Alexandr-NVR 26 May 2016 15: 41
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        Most likely there is no such system as the Perimeter, since this is an autonomous missile launch control system in itself - computer intelligence that is independent of anyone and if it fails, then it can decide to launch nuclear missiles in peacetime.

        You are mistaken in assumptions.
        I personally communicated with a person who at one time in the group was engaged in software for him. Rather, it will be said - a piece of software responsible for fault tolerance.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 26 May 2016 17: 50
          0
          There is more likely a slightly different scheme of work and one of the main components of the Perimeter, just doomsday planes are - when receiving confirmed information from the missile attack missile system, the air command post sends to all launchers the activation codes for the automatic missile launch system, that is, the system works together with a person, sets a predetermined number of missile launches, notifies the air command post about the launches made and waits for the command of the supreme commander in chief to allow the launch - communication between the president and the system is carried out using a nuclear briefcase.
      3. SklochPensioner
        SklochPensioner 26 May 2016 16: 01
        +1
        Quote: Vadim237
        if he crashes, he can decide to launch nuclear missiles in peacetime.

        What do you think was first condition at the stage of not even designing, but when discussing the very idea of ​​creating "Perimeter"? .. That's right, well done!
        1. Alexandr-NVR
          Alexandr-NVR 26 May 2016 16: 12
          +3
          Quote: SklochPensioner
          Quote: Vadim237
          if he crashes, he can decide to launch nuclear missiles in peacetime.

          What do you think was first condition at the stage of not even designing, but when discussing the very idea of ​​creating "Perimeter"? .. That's right, well done!

          Come on! We apologize to the Americans and business! Let's say that we are very sorry, we will announce a reprimand to someone ...)))
          We are more humane. That they all will not dare to confess before the Yap.
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 26 May 2016 17: 29
          0
          Fail-safe systems do not exist - another thing is if this system is turned off and activate it at the peak of tension.
      4. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 26 May 2016 20: 25
        -1
        Quote: Vadim237
        Most likely there is no such system as the Perimeter, since this is an autonomous missile launch control system in itself - computer intelligence that is independent of anyone and if it fails, then it can decide to launch nuclear missiles in peacetime.

        a la- "skynet" ... but cho, science fiction writers sometimes fall into the "hole" ... (God forbid), but! "cyberdyne systems" seems to be already there ... the question is: is there Kyle Reeves ... or some kind of Semyon Semyonich, from Zadrischensk, (from Sukhodrishchevo, also suitable) who will save the world ...
  10. Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 26 May 2016 15: 19
    0
    Why it is impossible to make a 1-in plane for the president, and not two as it is now (IL-96-300PU and IL-80).
    In the event of a nuclear war, it is much more likely that the president will be in his IL-96-300PU in the air on an official visit to a country. And then until he gets to the airport and the IL-80 will be lifted into the air already and there will be no airport.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 May 2016 17: 53
      +1
      One of the four IL 80s is in the air every day.
    2. ICT
      ICT 26 May 2016 21: 13
      +2
      Quote: Lt. air force reserve
      Why it is impossible to make an 1-in plane for the president

      the presidency on silt -80 has nothing to do,
      it can be where it’s suitable, since the button is always with it,

      and then just everyone else starts working, including VZPU,
  11. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 26 May 2016 16: 23
    0
    Quote: weksha50
    So what the next modern VzPU is doing is good, but anyway it's not a panacea ...

    A panacea or not, time will tell, but for now, the adversary should just know that they will get it anyway if that ...
  12. fa2998
    fa2998 26 May 2016 16: 52
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    Quote: oldseaman1957
    but the new air control points will not be superfluous!

    I can argue that the fourth generation will be based on the Tu-86 \ 96. I don’t understand something, why this aircraft was developed. What would the president and control points fly? They probably did a dozen aircraft! For comparison, the Boeing-747- over 1500 units (since 1969) what hi
    1. FID
      FID 26 May 2016 17: 54
      +1
      Quote: fa2998
      I can argue that the fourth generation will be based on the Tu-86 \ 96

      Surely, definitely ... Tu-86 is only on paper, and Tu-96 is a high-altitude version of Tu-95 ...
  13. fa2998
    fa2998 26 May 2016 19: 40
    0
    Quote: SSI
    Quote: fa2998
    I can argue that the fourth generation will be based on the Tu-86 \ 96

    Surely, definitely ... Tu-86 is only on paper, and Tu-96 is a high-altitude version of Tu-95 ...

    Sorry, I spoke naturally for IL-86 \ 96! hi
  14. hunt1
    hunt1 26 May 2016 21: 56
    0
    there were 4 of them in the USSR, and probably now they want the same amount. According to rumors, they can be in the air for more than 2 days and has an antenna that stretches for 6 km for airplanes to communicate with submarines. A serious device.
  15. ICT
    ICT 26 May 2016 23: 30
    0
    Quote: Hunt1
    in the USSR there were 4.

    they were made in the USSR, but served only in Russia, and there were none when 4 (workers),
  16. Zomanus
    Zomanus 27 May 2016 02: 55
    0
    Good planes. And you need to update them constantly.
    Remove old ones from duty, set new ones.
    Because these planes should have all the newest and the best.