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Ukraine simply has no money for the creation of a military fleet

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Ukraine simply has no money for the creation of a military fleetThe Ministry of Defense of Ukraine announces grandiose plans for the development of the naval fleet. Over the next four years, the country plans to build thirty ships and boats (this is more than that of Germany). This is not the first time Kiev has announced Napoleonic military plans, which it later disavows. The rapidly impoverished Ukraine has no money for such an expensive pleasure as a military fleet.


Ukraine plans to build 30 warships and boats for the 2020 year, the defense ministry said on Tuesday. There are already some successes in this direction: two small artillery armored boats have been built, work continues on four more. Plus, the Ministry of Defense signed a state contract with the plant "Leninskaya forge" (indirectly owned by Petro Poroshenko, reports TASS) for the construction of two amphibious boats.

"Requests of Kiev chiefs are akin to production tanks from garbage cans and making cardboard from other inventions "

Plenty of plans

Back in the fall of 2015, the then commander of the country's Navy, Sergei Haiduk, described the bright prospects of the Ukrainian fleet. "Until the end of 2020, the Ukrainian Navy should have 66 ships and support vessels, an 31 aircraft, coastal defense forces, powerful artillery units, marines and other support units," he argued. The number of warships, along with ships of the marine guard, is 17 units. The rest are mostly collateral ships.

He also reported on plans to purchase several small submarines, which, according to Haiduk, is laid down in the “State Targeted Program for the Development of Arms and Military Equipment until 2020 of the Year”. It was not reported where it is planned to raise money for the purchase or construction of such expensive weapons. “The work is going very powerfully,” argued Haiduk, who was dismissed by Petro Poroshenko in April 2016 for insufficient performance of his duties and low authority among the military and volunteers. The Minister of Defense of Ukraine Stepan Poltorak, who acknowledged that the country cannot count on submarines, justified his statements.

Nevertheless, in Kiev, they did not lay down their hands regarding plans to expand the fleet. So, in November 2015, the first armored artillery boat of its own - non-Soviet - production was launched, which was called “an important step to restore the military potential of the Ukrainian Navy. Experts did not appreciate the enthusiasm of the Kiev authorities, calling the boat "squalor." It is these boats that are being built now at the Leninskaya Kuznitsa plant.

The United States helped Ukraine a great deal by responding to the call to replenish the country's navy. 30 January 2015 of the year according to the program of material and technical assistance of the USA transferred to the Ukrainian Navy five high-speed inflatable motor boats of the type Willard Sea Force 730 and Sea Force 11M manufactured by Willard Marine.

Not a budget issue

In 2016, a record military budget was signed in Kiev. Thus, more than 100 billion hryvnia, or 5% of the total GDP of Ukraine, was allocated for defense and security, writes the Ukrainian newspaper Observer. The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine will receive a record 55,5 billion hryvnia from them. “If you count the costs only for the army and navy, and also convert them into dollars, then this amount looks less impressive - just 2,3 billion dollars. Especially if you take into account the money allocated in 2015 year, when the Defense Ministry received 45 billion hryvnia, or 2,85 billion dollars at the NBU rate at the beginning of 2015 of the year, ”writes the publication.

Against this background, the construction costs of even such boats as the result of the work of the “Leninskaya smithy” recently launched into the project “Gyurza-M” look fantastic. So, in the 2012 year, when the boats began to build, their cost was estimated at 120 – 130 million hryvnia. At the current exchange rate, this would be 4,75 million USD. If Ukraine plans to build 30 of such vessels, then the final cost (starting from the current rate) will reach 142,5 million dollars, which is a significant part of the budget. The amounts, of course, are purely theoretical, because the dollar exchange rate has changed significantly. The contract amount could also change, because in 2013, they wanted to terminate it due to lack of funding. We emphasize that we cite as an example the construction of exclusively armored river boats of the Gyurza-M type, and not full-fledged naval ships.

More serious systems are priced much more expensive. So, in 2011, a project was announced under the name “Ukrainian Corvette”, the lead ship of which was to be “Vladimir the Great”. Its construction and equipment were estimated at 250 million euros, it was planned to build 10 of such corvettes by 2026 year - and therefore, spend 2,5 billion euros. However, in 2014, the construction of the first corvette was frozen due to lack of funding.

"Absolutely unreal"


Director of the Institute of Political and Military Analysis Oleksandr Khramchikhin wondered what exactly the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine means by “ships and boats”. “If we mean ships and even boats in the classical sense, then it is absolutely unrealistic,” Khramchikhin told the LOOK to the newspaper.

According to him, by the year 20 it is possible to build 30 ships and boats, if only these are some very small vessels. “Over the years of independence, they built about as many small boats without weapons. They have a displacement of several tons, and the length - a few meters. These are patrol boats for border guards, customs officers. For a normal sea war, this does not fit in any way, ”the expert noted.

Khramchikhin noted that Ukraine possesses large shipbuilding capacities, but “this does not mean anything”. “Because the situation in the Ukrainian economy does not allow this,” explained Alexander Khramchikhin.

Meanwhile, the official representative of the Investigative Committee of Russia, Vladimir Markin, proposed an option under which Ukraine would be able to pull such construction. “If warships are inflatable mattresses, then this is real. They know how to “inflate”, ”wrote Markin on Twitter.

In turn, the chairman of the All-Russian Movement for Fleet Support, Captain First Rank Mikhail Nenashev, is convinced that for the remaining three and a half years, Ukraine can only buy from the other country "a few low-power katerkov."

“The stated number of ships and boats in 30, if they are not made of paper, is fantastic for the Ukrainian state,” said Nenashev to VIEW.

In his opinion, Ukraine’s second-hand ship can be acquired from some “pitiful country - a member of NATO”. “These are the regular and dangerous attempts of the Ukrainian useless dreamers. 30 ships and boats - is a serious naval force. So many modern ships are not in the UK and Germany. It seems to me that the Ukrainian political elite is not producing boats and ships, but fantasies on the river and sea theme, ”Nenashev believes.

He explained that even for the construction of boats with machine guns on board, it is necessary to have serious cooperation in the defense industry complex and first-class specialists. “In Ukraine there are elements of the military-industrial complex. But these elements are already in a weak state. They can make separately diesel engines for ships, some types of ground weapons. Inquiries of the Kiev chiefs are akin to the production of tanks from garbage cans, ”said Nenashev.

He also noted that Ukraine should spend money not on vain dreams, but “saving lives in the country itself”. “If Ukraine stops the Bandera war against common sense and its own people, no one will threaten Ukraine. Those who closely monitor the events in the Black Sea region remember that some Georgian military leaders had similar dreams about dozens of new ships and boats, ”concluded Mikhail Nenashev.

Was, but surfaced


Ukrainian navy at the moment almost lost. Kiev was not engaged in the development and even maintenance of this industry, and many ships became useless. There was even a reduction in the fleet: in the 2012 year, six ships were withdrawn from the Ukrainian Navy, and no replacement was planned for them. In October, 2013, another warship, three support vessels and five boats were withdrawn from the fleet.

Since most of the Ukrainian ships were based in Crimea, in the 2014 year, after the referendum, they were on Russian territory. As a result, nine of the 18 main combat ships of the Ukrainian Navy and nine of the 43 auxiliary ships came under Russian jurisdiction. Not only ships, but also military personnel remained in Russia: most of them did not want to leave for Ukraine, for which Kiev was later accused of desertion.
The Russian ship Pridneprovye, small anti-submarine ships Lutsk, Ternopil, Khmelnitsky, sea minesweepers Chernihiv and Cherkasy, the subdivision boat Theodosia, a large landing ship Konstantin Olshansky, a large landing ship Konstantin Olshansky, a large submarine boat Konstantin Olshansky, a large landing ship Konstantin Olshansky, a large landing ship Konstantin Olshansky, a ship the Slavutich administration, as well as boats for various purposes, a rescue vessel, a repair floating crane and a tanker. The remaining 43 ships and boats for various purposes, according to the 2014 year, remained in the Ukrainian Navy.

The remaining vessels in Ukraine are not in the best condition. The guard ship "Vinnitsa" is under repair since 2007. During the return of the Crimea under Russian jurisdiction, it was located near the peninsula, but was subsequently transferred to Ukraine. Minesweeper Genichesk, also returned to Ukraine, was built 30 years ago. And from the submarine "Zaporozhye", recognized as dangerous for use, Kiev refused.

According to unofficial data, in the fall of 2009, the normal functional state was revealed only in one combat ship of the Ukrainian Navy - the corvette Ternopil. This is the newest ship, it became part of the Ukrainian fleet in 2006 year. Appointed in 2014 year and. about. Tenyukh, Minister of Defense of Ukraine, declared that only four ships were conditionally capable of fighting: the Hetman Sagaidachny frigate, the Ternopol corvette, the Slavutych command ship and the Konstantin Olshansky large landing ship. All but the first are under the jurisdiction of Russia today.
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  1. Knowing
    Knowing 26 May 2016 05: 38
    +6
    State 404, as always ahead of the rest, is surprised by the silence of the parasenko ...
    1. vodolaz
      vodolaz 26 May 2016 05: 41
      0
      On the Ukrainian Wikipedia, the Navy found a 404-miserable sight, of course, and they also write about the evil invaders that they had captured the fleet)
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 26 May 2016 05: 55
        +3
        Quote: vodolaz
        they write about the evil occupiers that they had captured the fleet)

        In the light of recent events, I will not be surprised if the Russian leadership will show another act of humanism and hand over to Ukraine the military units of the Naval Forces of Ukraine illegally held in Sevastopol: the control ship "Slavutich", the large landing craft "Olshansky", the minesweepers "Chernigov" and "Cherkassy", corvettes "Lutsk" , "Ternopil", "Khmelnitsky" and "Dnieper". And, of course, the "great pidvodny choven" "Zaporozhye".
        And we will praise another tricky plan, namely that the defense budget of Ukraine will not be able to bear the burden of the cost of maintaining the transferred ships in a combat-ready state and will certainly collapse ..
        1. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 26 May 2016 08: 56
          0
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          And we will praise another tricky plan, namely that the defense budget of Ukraine will not be able to bear the burden of the cost of maintaining the transferred ships in a combat-ready state and will certainly collapse ..

          Well, after the local sofa marshals explained the extradition of Savchenko as another "brilliant" move of our supreme, and how Poroshenko grabs his head, etc., even your version about the collapsed budget looks less delusional good
          1. Lukich
            Lukich 26 May 2016 11: 19
            -1
            Quote: Stirbjorn
            the extradition of Savchenko, as another "brilliant" move of our Supreme,

            why didn’t he say how and why he issued it? or forgot the word exchanged? or is one thing worth the freedom of several of our citizens? YOU do not scatter words ....
            1. Stirbjorn
              Stirbjorn 26 May 2016 15: 05
              +1
              Quote: Lukich
              why didn’t he say how and why he issued it? or forgot the word exchanged? or is one thing worth the freedom of several of our citizens? YOU do not scatter words ....

              I didn’t exchange it, but pardoned my own decree, on the left, in the form of a petition from the relatives of the murdered journalists. Savchenko categorically refused to admit her guilt and file a petition for clemency. In addition to Savchenko, we have someone to change, and our entire citizens are in prison.
              And I don’t need to poke
      2. Aryan
        Aryan 26 May 2016 10: 49
        +1
        "Ukraine simply has no money to create a military fleet"
        and soon there will be no more sea for the fleet bully
  2. Yakut14
    Yakut14 26 May 2016 05: 48
    +4
    What the hell are they going to revive the fleet !? The only more or less lively Nikolaev shipyard and that finish to pull away. The last experts left somewhere. There is no metal - loading Zaporizhstal and Dneprospetsstal by 30%, all defense enterprises are in collapse, energy tariffs are a rod - don't worry.
    All they had to do was sing - "Tycho on nebu choven plyve".
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 26 May 2016 06: 04
      +1
      Quote: Yakut14
      What the hell are they going to revive the fleet !? The only more or less lively Nikolaev shipyard and that finish to pull away.

      How is it? Gathered ships of all classes on a 3D printer to print. Quickly, profitably, angrily.
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 26 May 2016 08: 32
        +4
        Quote: Amurets
        How is it? Ships of all classes assembled on a 3D printer

        it is difficult. easier like that
    2. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 26 May 2016 07: 41
      +1
      Well, what power still remained. Something smaller for cabotage can be built. And where to base it?
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 26 May 2016 11: 56
        0
        Quote: dmi.pris
        Well, what power still remained. Something smaller for cabotage can be built. And where to base it?

        Well, yes, you can! The Zaporozhye "Seagulls", but based in Constantinople.
    3. Lukich
      Lukich 26 May 2016 08: 35
      +1
      Quote: Yakut14
      What the hell are they going to revive the fleet !?

      probably this
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 26 May 2016 05: 49
    +2
    The submarine fleet of Ukraine. All that remains is almost drowning near the wall. But cheeks puffs, from the back to see.
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 26 May 2016 08: 37
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      The submarine fleet of Ukraine.

      have modernized
  4. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 26 May 2016 05: 54
    +2
    There is no money for the fleet, but gifts are waiting, you can buy from the USA.
    1. ARES623
      ARES623 26 May 2016 07: 52
      +2
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      There is no money for the fleet, but gifts are waiting, you can buy from the USA.

      Traditional American "help". They will give it used for free, and for maintenance, repair and training of personnel, the last skin will be removed. Or the debt will be hung on the neck of future generations. About the same, Canada offered a batch of old F-18s to make room for the F-35. Ukrainians calculated the residual life cycle, shed tears and refused, they were smart enough. They would have abandoned the Navy altogether. In addition to show-off, there is no sense from them. It is better to put money into the real economy. It’s a no brainer that the money spent on domestic armament does not provide any surplus value to replenish the state budget. But the situation with economists there is even worse than ours. smile
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 26 May 2016 09: 28
        +2
        Quote: ARES623
        Traditional American "help". They will give it used for free, and for maintenance, repair and training of personnel, the last skin will be removed.

        The mattresses did not give anything for free and will not give it in the future. At the same time, of course, they will remove portals from Ukrainians for maintenance. But I believe that nothing will happen.
        I think that in the very near future Parashe and Co. will not be up to the fleet and ATO.
  5. Yak-15
    Yak-15 26 May 2016 06: 00
    0
    All these similar statements in various fields, are nothing but the agony of this pig state. And those who stand at the trough, in the last dying hours, are trying to steal the rest.
  6. Observer2014
    Observer2014 26 May 2016 06: 05
    +1
    Further it will be more fun. The fleet ordered to live long. At least shoot the number of admirals. The invaders are keeping the pearl of the Ukrainian fleet in captivity (Zaporizhia). What to do? And then it will be better. Petya Poroshenko is already asked to leave on good terms. And they want to see Savchenko in his place. Here, as in the theater, we take seats in the curtain and watch the action. You can even organize a sweepstakes, after how many Savchenko will be killed. They will be sent to Donbass and there she is "accidentally" either hit by shelling or in an ambush. This is what the Kremlin's hand would feel. Well, in case of an accident. laughingAnd about the Ukrainian fleet, there’s nothing else to write about. There is no fleet. And there’s nothing to discuss.
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 26 May 2016 08: 42
      0
      Quote: Observer2014
      Then it will be more fun.

      Quote: Observer2014
      Then it will be more fun.

      already fun.
      koment below, but start to jump
    2. Lukich
      Lukich 26 May 2016 08: 47
      0
      Quote: Observer2014
      There is no fleet. And there’s nothing to discuss

      and he will answer .....
  7. verb
    verb 26 May 2016 06: 16
    0
    Yes, at least they brought the number of "ships" to the number of admirals. After all, they already have 14 (!) Admirals! One per boat, and even that is too much.
  8. sl22277
    sl22277 26 May 2016 06: 28
    0
    The Ukropsk power is not up to the fleet now, everything that they managed to snatch from the USSR. They just screwed up ... The money is getting smaller, the reputation is getting worse, the West is getting angrier. The main task is to stay in power. And her faces are not disfigured by the intellect, who are now engaged in a project with Savchenko. Even Tymoshenko again appeared on the "political get-together." Here and now sits in shit up to his ears. And to use Savchenko's "offense" in his political games is definitely going to.
  9. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 26 May 2016 06: 42
    +3
    Have problems in building a fleet?
    That’s practically without an expensive option,
    material - newspaper, assembly diagram below:
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 26 May 2016 07: 03
      +2
      You also need to attach a paint scheme so that you can distinguish a hospital ship from a "combat" ship laughing
    2. Yakut14
      Yakut14 26 May 2016 07: 22
      +2
      Not properly. The leaf should be half yellow-blue, so Ukrainian boats will be better visible!
    3. Yak-15
      Yak-15 26 May 2016 08: 21
      +1
      I suggest hollowing canoes from tree trunks. But your option, of course, is much less expensive both in time and in finances)))))
  10. aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 May 2016 07: 10
    0
    Ukronatsiki raised the topic of duty. No more.
  11. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 26 May 2016 07: 12
    0
    Quote: Rurikovich
    You also need to attach a paint scheme so that you can distinguish a hospital ship from a "combat" ship laughing

    So military are hospital, if not beautiful ...
  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 26 May 2016 07: 29
    0
    Why are you ending? Literally a day or two ago they wrote that by the end of this year, 30 different new vessels will receive ukroflot, but you don’t have any money. This zrada is called. negative
  13. raketnik
    raketnik 26 May 2016 07: 34
    0
    FLEET --- DRINK ..... said Petsya and the fleet fellow has begun
  14. Konstantin Yu
    Konstantin Yu 26 May 2016 09: 30
    0
    Why laugh at the wretched ... Krylov's quartet in life, in its independent style ..
  15. Sergey-72
    Sergey-72 26 May 2016 12: 02
    +2
    Submarine Fleet ... laughing
    1. Yak-15
      Yak-15 26 May 2016 13: 18
      0
      Test picture +++++
  16. 96423lom
    96423lom 26 May 2016 13: 52
    0
    Apparently it will be something like this ...
  17. iury.vorgul
    iury.vorgul 26 May 2016 16: 05
    0
    As there is no fleet - what is it? This is the main ukroflagman. And ni - again, swear to m. with. to. and. l and. the harassment was stopped. Appropriated the flagship.