Crimean debts

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"Especially distinguished by brutal massacres, helped the invaders in the mass extermination of the Soviet people"

Ukrainian radicals, supported by the Kiev authorities, claim that Russia is not only responsible for the "Stalinist genocide" of the Crimean Tatars, but also has not given them all the "debts". The idea of ​​repentance is imposed on our compatriots for more than a quarter of a century. The facts do not confirm the innocence of the deported people.

The testimony of Field Marshal Erich von Manstein, who in 1941 commanded Wehrmacht troops on the peninsula on the peninsula, is well known: “The majority of the Tatar population of Crimea was very friendly towards us. We even managed to form from the Tatars armed self-defense companies, whose task was to protect the communications and their villages from the attacks of partisans hiding in the Yayly Mountains. The reason that a powerful partisan movement developed in the Crimea from the very beginning, which caused us a lot of trouble, was that among the population of the Crimea, in addition to the Tatars and other small national groups, there were still many Russians ... The Tatars immediately took our side. They saw in us their liberators from the Bolshevik yoke, especially since we respected their religious practices. An impressive Crimean Tatar deputation came to me, for example, which brought an abundance of fruit and beautiful handmade fabrics for the liberator of the Tatars Adolf-efendi. ” The close cooperation of the Crimean Tatar nationalists with the occupiers was regularly reported in their reports to Berlin by the generals Halder, Guderian, Rundstedt or, for example, von Papen, the then German ambassador to Turkey. The last diplomatic missions in Moscow, Sofia and Berlin reported the same to Ankara.

“As soon as the front approached Perekop, the mass desertion of the Crimean Tatars from the Red Army began, as if on cue.”

In 1940, the share of Russians in the resident population of the Crimea reached almost 50 percent, Ukrainians - about 14 percent, and Crimean Tatars - 20 percent. Since August, 1941-th from German airplanes on the Crimea fell leaflets with promises to "finally solve the issue of independence of the Crimean Tatar nation." This was planned in the form of a protectorate of the Third Reich or condominium (joint management) of Germany and Turkey. And as soon as the front approached Perekop (at the end of September 1941), the desertion of the Crimean Tatars from the Red Army began, as if on command, in large quantities.

In December, the 1941 of the year, the German command began to organize so-called Tatar or Muslim committees in Crimea (they were also established in the North Caucasus. - AB). A month earlier, under the leadership of the Germans, armed Crimean Tatar self-defense units began to be formed. Separate formations were sent to the Kerch front and partially to the Sevastopol station, where they participated in battles against the Red Army. “From the very first days of their arrival, the Germans, relying on the Tatar nationalists, without robbing their property openly, as they did to the Russian population, tried to ensure a good attitude towards themselves,” wrote the head of the 5 district in Moscow in a report to Moscow. Crimea Vladimir Krasnikov. Tatars were called to be conductors of punitive detachments. But most of all "famous" for the atrocities against the civilian population. Fleeing from reprisals, Russian-speaking residents and small indigenous peoples (Krymchaks, Karaites, Greeks) were forced to seek help from the German authorities - and sometimes even found their protection. From among the Crimean Tatars who surrendered to captivity, a special agent was being prepared, who was thrown into the rear of the USSR for sabotage, anti-Soviet and nationalist agitation.

In a memorandum of the deputy state security and internal affairs officers of the USSR B. Kobulov and I. Serov addressed to Stalin and Beria, dated 22 on April 1944, says: “All 20 thousands of Crimean Tatars deserted in 1941 from the 51 th army during its retreat from Of the Crimea ... Most of them began to serve the invaders, revealing partisans, Soviet intelligence officers, mocking the civilian population. " The evidence that the desertion of the Crimean Tatars from the Red Army was almost universal, is confirmed by numerous documents.

Crimean debts10 March 1942 th at the general meeting in Alushta of the "Tatar Committee" of Crimea expressed "thanks to the Great Führer ... for the free life he had given to the Muslim people. Then they arranged a service for the preservation of life and health for many years to Adolf Hitler-efendi. ”

After the crushing defeat of 6 of the German army of Paulus near Stalingrad, on the initiative of the Feodosia Muslim Committee, a meeting of the Crimean Tatars was organized, where they decided to help the Wehrmacht to the bitter end and raised a million rubles to help him. At the end of 1942, the committee announced the slogan “Crimea for Tatars only” and noted in its statements that the future fate of the peninsula is joining Turkey. A significant event was the two visits to Feodosia of the Turkish emissary Amil Pasha, who actively called on the Crimean Muslims to support the German fascist army in every possible way.

In April, 1944 began the last battles for the liberation of the peninsula. According to documents, the Crimean Tatar punitive battalions resisted the Soviet army and local partisans to the last. Thus, in the area of ​​the Islam Terek station, three Crimean Tatar battalions fought against 11-th Guards Corps units, which only lost prisoners of 800 people. The 149 Battalion defended Bakhchisarai stubbornly. The remnants of these units left the peninsula together with their masters and continued the struggle against the USSR. According to German data, in January 1945-th in the German armed forces, mainly in the SS, more than 10 thousands of Crimean Tatars fought. When the Red Army was approaching Berlin, every fifth adult Crimean Tatar shot her. As I. B. Tito testified, on the side of the Croatian Ustashes, Chetniks Mikhailovich (in Serbian Krajina) and in Bosnia, until the middle of May, the Crimean-Tatar detachments also fought, and a few of them managed to break through to northern Italy and the neighboring region of Austria, where they surrendered to british people

We give only some evidence of crimes of the Crimean Tatar accomplices to the aggressors in their native land.

“The chairman of the district Muslim committee Umerov Vekir was arrested in the city of Sudak. In January, 1942, during the landing of our landing force near the town of Feodosiya, Umerov's detachment detained 12 Red Army paratroopers and burned them alive. ”

“In the city of Bakhchisarai, a traitor Jabar Abibulayev was arrested, who voluntarily joined 1942 in the punitive battalion created by the Germans. For active struggle with Soviet patriots, Abibulayev was appointed commander of a punitive platoon and executed civilians suspected of being in connection with partisans. ”

"A group of local Tatars were arrested in the Dzhankoy region, who, on the instructions of the German authorities, in March 1942, poisoned the Gypsies and Karaites in the 200 gas chamber."

11 May 1944 was followed by the decree of the State Defense Committee of the USSR No. 5859-ss: “During the Patriotic War, many Crimean Tatars changed their Homeland, deserted from the Red Army units defending the Crimea, and went over to the enemy, entered into the German Tatar volunteer military units that fought against the Red Army. During the occupation of the Crimea by the fascist German forces, participating in the German punitive detachments, the Crimean Tatars were particularly distinguished by their brutal reprisals against the Soviet partisans, and also helped the German invaders in organizing the violent hijacking of Soviet citizens into German slavery and the mass extermination of Soviet people.

The Crimean Tatars actively cooperated with the German occupation authorities, participating in the so-called Tatar national committees organized by the German intelligence, and were widely used by the Germans for the purpose of bringing spies and saboteurs into the rear of the Red Army. The Tatar National Committees, in which the White Guard-Tatar emigres played the main role, with the support of the Crimean Tatars, directed their activities towards the persecution and oppression of the non-Tatarian population of the Crimea and worked to prepare forcible rejection of Crimea from the Soviet Union with the help of the German armed forces.

Given the above, the State Defense Committee decides:

1. All Tatars should be evicted from the territory of the Crimea and settled for permanent residence as special settlers in the areas of the Uzbek SSR. The eviction to impose on the NKVD of the USSR. Oblige the NKVD of the USSR (t. Beria) the eviction of the Crimean Tatars to finish by June 1 1944.

2. Establish the following procedure and conditions for eviction:

a) allow special settlers to take with them personal belongings, clothing, household equipment, dishes and food in quantities up to 500 kilograms per family.

Remaining property, buildings, outbuildings, furniture and homestead lands are accepted by local authorities; all productive and dairy cattle, as well as poultry are accepted by the People's Commissariat of Industry, all agricultural products by the USSR People's Commissariat of Agriculture, horses and other working cattle by the USSR People's Commissariat, and pedigree cattle by the People's Commissariat of the USSR.

Acceptance of livestock, grain, vegetables and other types of agricultural products to produce with the issuance of exchange receipts for each locality and each farm. "

It should be noted that the deportation was also viewed as a measure to prevent interethnic conflicts, the protection of those resettled from the inevitable and, in the opinion of most people, just revenge.

According to the GKO, 191 044 people of Tatar nationality were removed from the Crimean ASSR. At the same time, anti-Soviet elements of 1137 were arrested, and in total during the operation - 5989 people. From 151 720 of the Crimean Tatars, exported in May 1944 to the Uzbek SSR, 191 people died on the way. Part was relocated to the adjacent areas of Kazakhstan (4286 people) and Tajikistan. Separate groups were sent to the Mari Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (8597 people), to the Urals, to the Kostroma region. Six thousand Crimean Tatars of draft age were mobilized into the Red Army.

According to the decision of the State Defense Committee, those who proved themselves in the fight against the occupiers remained in the Crimea. There it was 1500.

Soon the Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic was transformed into a region. In 1948, the replacement of Crimean Tatar toponyms by Russians began in the region. The region, according to the available data, was planned to be renamed Tauride. But soon after Stalin's death, this campaign ceased.

5 September 1967 was adopted by the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR (No. 493) "On citizens of Tatar nationality living in the Crimea", which actually allowed those who were resettled to the Urals and Central Asia not to return to the peninsula en masse. The secret note of the KGB in the Central Committee of the CPSU from 4 of October 1967 of the year said: "... It must be noted that a significant part of the Tatar population expresses a desire to return to the Crimea. Currently, mass resettlement is not expected, but it is possible that since the spring of 1968, large groups of Tatars can start leaving there. Party and Soviet bodies of the Crimea region need to keep this in mind and take into account in their daily work. ” It was also stated there: “A group of people from among the so-called autonomists took a particularly negative position in relation to the decree, which makes a demand for organized resettlement to Crimea and the creation of autonomy.” They "recently change their tactics, considering it necessary to first move to the Crimea, settle compactly, and then raise the question of the formation of autonomy ..."

The actions of the USSR leadership in 1944 – 1945 in respect of the overwhelming majority of the Crimean Tatars were justified. The Soviet government did not intend to formally review the decision on deportation, even during a period of voluntarism. Only by the end of 80-s in Moscow did “innovations” on this issue appear. Which, as further and the current events in the region show, could not but contribute to the growth of the Crimean Tatar nationalism.
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  1. +3
    28 May 2016 05: 29
    But there are other "humane" examples. German, Japanese, American, British ...

    But in general, I urge each other to forgive and understand. And who will vyzhivatsya and pouring acid on the friendship of our peoples to take and flare yelled on the ass itself.
    1. +61
      28 May 2016 07: 04
      Quote: ShadowCat
      But in general, I urge each other to forgive and understand.

      We have already forgiven them, in 89-90 we recognized them as the injured party. Are they us? And is there anything to forgive us for? After all, deportation was only a consequence, not a cause. Moreover, a very mild and humane consequence. They could send to Sakhalin.
      And now they have both language and special rights. Although in fact the Russians have more rights to Crimea, Tmutarakan used to be there. But the Tatars lived there only 300 years before joining Russia. hi
      1. +1
        28 May 2016 13: 20
        You are right and you will not find fault. Let's cut and hate each other. I think our "partners" and "overseas friends" will only be delighted with this and will praise and encourage.
        After all, you can put up debts to many - Ukrainians, Belarusians, Ingush, Chechens, Russians ... There is always something to put up and why to kill.

        Quote: Ingvar 72
        After all, deportation was only a consequence, not a cause.

        All right. But how is warming - was a crime? Yes. They were convicted? Yes. Have you been punished? Yes. Was it accepted and canceled by a state body? Yes too.
        That's it.

        What else I want to say - the Tatars on the peninsula 12% and they voted for Russia in 2014.
        And yes, the last, I did not say anywhere to forget actions.
        1. +24
          29 May 2016 10: 28
          Quote: ShadowCat
          You are right and you will not find fault. Let each other cut and hate.
          And who is cutting whom? "Cruel" Russians or "kind and undeservedly injured" Tatars?

          After all, you can put up debts to many - Ukrainians, Belarusians, Ingush, Chechens, Russians ... There is always something to put up and why to kill.
          And again the question: who and to whom does these same notorious debts expose? Russia to Ukraine for the territory that she would have seen, like ears without a mirror? Russia to the Baltic countries for the created industry, culture and science in exchange for farm brewing? Russia to Poland for the fact that after the WWII it exists on the political map of Europe, and did not disappear into the fog of history, as Churchill suggested? Russia to Chechnya for the same massive betrayal as in the Crimea?
          But in Russia, claims are made by all and sundry. It's amazing how the Martians haven't checked in yet. Apparently, mattress toppers have not yet brought their "democracy" there ...
          1. 0
            29 May 2016 19: 19
            You know Alex is a household name in some games. But you thought, having some experience, at least read a thread of posts.
            That's about everything you said, I hinted.
            1. +4
              29 May 2016 21: 45
              You know, to be honest, I almost didn’t understand anything. And here is my nickname and games? It’s just an abbreviation on my behalf, and even in the States, when I was there, they called me that (they obviously have long names from their memory, their brains are not very strong).

              I read all the posts that were at that time. If you noticed, my very first comment was at the end of discussions.

              If my and your thoughts on this issue (in the sense of assessing the actions of the Crimean Tatars during the Second World War) coincide, then I am glad of this fact. If not, we can argue if there is a hunt and a subject for discussion. If it turned out that my words are a reflection of your thoughts / hints, then our positions coincide (plus or minus corrections for personal and individual characteristics).
          2. +2
            27 October 2016 12: 27
            Quote: Alex
            Russia to the Baltic States for the established industry, culture and science in return for farm brewing?

            if you look at it, half of the territories of the Baltic states historically do not belong to them. According to the latest data, in Estonia and Latvia there were at least 3 Russian principalities subsequently captured by Danish and Saxon crusaders. So the city of Kolyvan is now called Tallinn, and the literally Danish city. Names Lithuania comes from the Lithuanian princedom, which was not Lithuanian, but Russian and originally an association of Russian lands that did not fall into the Golden Horde, and future Lithuanians there were rightfully conquered subjects, and not the masters, but lived in a smaller territory than now .... ETC..
          3. +1
            29 November 2016 22: 08
            Quote: Alex
            Quote: ShadowCat
            You are right and you will not find fault. Let each other cut and hate.
            And who is cutting whom? "Cruel" Russians or "kind and undeservedly injured" Tatars?

            After all, you can put up debts to many - Ukrainians, Belarusians, Ingush, Chechens, Russians ... There is always something to put up and why to kill.
            And again the question: who and to whom does these same notorious debts expose? Russia to Ukraine for the territory that she would have seen, like ears without a mirror? Russia to the Baltic countries for the created industry, culture and science in exchange for farm brewing? Russia to Poland for the fact that after the WWII it exists on the political map of Europe, and did not disappear into the fog of history, as Churchill suggested? Russia to Chechnya for the same massive betrayal as in the Crimea?
            But in Russia, claims are made by all and sundry. It's amazing how the Martians haven't checked in yet. Apparently, mattress toppers have not yet brought their "democracy" there ...

            Sorry, but the author is clearly cunning about the total betrayal of the Crimean Tatars. To put it mildly, it pours water on the right mill. Among the Crimean Tatars there were 8 heroes of the Soviet Union. Major Ametkhan Sultan - twice Hero of the Soviet Union! pilot, he shot down a lot of German aircraft, including went on a ram. And he died in the 1971 year, when he was testing a new plane. The pilot was Abduraim Reshidov, who also became a Hero of the Soviet Union, because he shot down eighteen enemy aircraft. He lived after the war in Simferopol, died in the 1984 year. Hero of the Soviet Union Abdul Teyfuk commanded a rifle battalion. He died near Lviv in the 1945 year.
            Hero of the Soviet Union Aduramanov Uzeir Abduramanovich built bridges, crossings, including under Nazi fire across the Dnieper. After the war he lived in Uzbekistan. The hero of the Soviet Union Seytnafe Seitveliev received this title for military operations near Minsk.
            Ibraim Berkutov was awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union for the transfer of military equipment across the Dnieper and the strengthening of the bridgehead on the other side.
            Abilov Anatoly Abilovich received the title of Hero of the Soviet Union only in the 1990 year. Although the command during the war years was represented twice.
            Chalbash Emir-Usein made 360 sorties. He performed a variety of combat missions, for which he received a high rank. And there were three full Cavaliers of the Order of Glory. There were several reasons for the reluctance to fight Crimean in the Soviet Army; the first and probably the main one is religious (the ideologists of communism did not treat Muslims like that. The second historical one, the Crimean Tatars were never drafted into the Russian army. (the tsars remembered how the Crimea fell into the bosom of Russia and recruited only volunteers from the Crimean Tatars). and the Bolsheviks suddenly they decided that they would go to fight with joy. A third political one, Crimea was being prepared for the Jewish Autonomous Republic. (Stalin promised to do this, but changed his mind for a number of reasons.) So we won’t be bad about the Crimean Tatars, Italians, Armenians and etc.. to toryh evicted in 1944g. There were many reasons, but found a reason. After all, not all Russian beloimmigranty that at the time of 2-Second World War were in Europe, went to war against the USSR. So why Crimean Tatars had to go to war for the Soviet Union?
        2. +10
          29 May 2016 13: 20
          You don’t have to cut anyone, but just leave everything as it is, the history does not tolerate the subjunctive mood, the Crimean Tatars got what they deserved and rewrite these facts as the affected people, this is disgusting towards those whom they destroyed and killed during the Crimean occupation by the German fascists.
        3. +1
          27 October 2016 15: 18
          Just to keep you informed, the so-called "Crimean Tatars" did not go to the referendum on the return of Crimea to Russia, they did not go to the elections to the State Duma either, this is not their state ...
      2. +10
        28 May 2016 22: 36
        The question is, who to forgive and for what? Yes, in the USSR they saved these dogs from fierce death, after the war! These people have been robbing their whole lives and living in dashing, what was built, built by slaves you guess or tell who they were !?
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    2. +12
      28 May 2016 10: 42
      In 1940, my own aunt was sent to work in the Yalta tuberculosis sanatorium as a medical assistant. Her place of residence was determined in a Crimean Tatar family in the village of Krasnokamenka. She failed to evacuate and during the occupation continued to work in a German hospital. Only, her work was connected with the delivery of medicines for the Crimean underground. The Tatars, most likely, guessed about the shadow side of the work - but, the fascists did not give my aunt Nastya. After the deportation, their house and plot became her property, and everything would have been fine if the party secretary of the Gurzuf wine farm (100% Ukrainian), who had been dividing the border, immediately deprived her of the opportunity to use the toilet and water. We had to intervene from Moscow, and the Soviet power, Thank God, by that time in Ukraine was still acting and at the level of the 1st secretary of the Yalta district committee, we quickly resolved this issue. Only, here the residue remained - ah, we always remembered those Tatars with pity.
      1. +11
        28 May 2016 13: 14
        Quote: Schultz
        well, we always remembered those Tatars with pity.
        - I think that it was wrong that everyone was deported by SCOPE. Among all nationalities, the Germans served plenty of people, but not all of them were evicted en masse, to take the same zapadentsev. And now, under the guise of innocently convicted, the children of the same traitors - punishers - are probably the loudest screaming for rights.
        1. +3
          28 May 2016 14: 11
          I completely agree with you, because the angle of incidence is equal to the angle of reflection for deportation, which is why we got a double terry column. And, to take the same Ukrainians, they should bow to the legs of Joseph Vissarionovich, and so that in each house under the images of his portrait - he took pity on them, because as of November 01.11.41, 43 the mobilization plan in Ukraine was only 57% complete, i.e. under wartime laws, the remaining XNUMX% are either deserters or Hitler's accomplices.
          1. +7
            28 May 2016 16: 22
            Quote: Schultz
            I completely agree with you, because the angle of incidence is equal to the angle of reflection for deportation, which is why we got a double terry column. And, to take the same Ukrainians, they should bow to the legs of Joseph Vissarionovich, and so that in each house under the images of his portrait - he took pity on them, because as of November 01.11.41, 43 the mobilization plan in Ukraine was only 57% complete, i.e. under wartime laws, the remaining XNUMX% are either deserters or Hitler's accomplices.

            You confuse cause and effect. In the beginning there was cooperation with the Germans and then deportation and not vice versa. Tatars put a lot of effort in the fight against the Crimean underground
        2. +8
          29 May 2016 10: 31
          Quote: oldseaman1957
          I think that it was wrong that everyone was deported by SCOPE.

          Read the article carefully:
          According to the decision of the State Defense Committee, those who proved themselves in the fight against the occupiers remained in the Crimea. There it was 1500.
          Well, the fact that there are so few of them ... Each person is himself a blacksmith of his misfortune ...
    3. +7
      28 May 2016 10: 48
      But in general, I urge each other to forgive and understand. And who will vyzhivatsya and pouring acid on the friendship of our peoples to take and flare yelled on the ass itself.


      "Friendship" with whom?
      And then listen from ... "Russians are slaves"?
      You probably are a slave, if you forgive everyone.

      1. -7
        28 May 2016 13: 27
        Of course. Better in Spanish - to the fire. Or in a slightly different way - to cut everyone out, since the Spaniards did this when traveling overseas?
        Probably worth it from the 1939th border in Europe to walk with fire and sword. Is it European? And the USSR had all the moral and primitive rights to this. Eye for eye, blood for blood. Cut to the root of the French, Germans, Balts, Spaniards and other peoples. Implement a kind of Ost plan for Europe.

        This is not our way. We, the Russian and Soviet peoples, do not do this. The Russian Empire, the USSR and the Russian Federation are a multinational country that has united many peoples under its leadership.
        1. +7
          28 May 2016 13: 50
          Exactly. With fire and a sword, for every murdered person, pay off in full with the fascists and their accomplices, allies.
        2. +9
          28 May 2016 14: 06
          Of course. Better in Spanish - to the fire.

          About the Spaniards - these are legends composed by their lords: first by the French and then by the British.

          Or in a slightly different way - to cut everyone out, since the Spaniards did this when traveling overseas?

          Surprisingly, where do people live in the territories of the former Spanish empire?
          And to the Spaniards, as it is strange, they have no complaints.


          Probably worth it from the 1939th border in Europe to walk with fire and sword. Is it European? And the USSR had all the moral and primitive rights to this. Eye for eye, blood for blood. Cut to the root of the French, Germans, Balts, Spaniards and other peoples. Implement a kind of Ost plan for Europe.

          And for what, for example, Czechs or Poles?
          Just for example - for what?

          This is not our way. We, the Russian and Soviet peoples, do not do this. The Russian Empire, the USSR and the Russian Federation are a multinational country that has united many peoples under its leadership.

          That is why the "friendship of peoples" is when a Russian will fight against Georgians and Tajiks. Or when in 91 there were posters: "Russians, don't leave - slaves are needed and ..." --- that's all your "friendship of peoples".

          In the Russian Empire, more than 80% of the population were Russians (including Little Russians and Belorussians, and Cossacks). By 1990, the share of Russian in the USSR was LESS than half — that's the whole "friendship of peoples".
          1. -1
            28 May 2016 14: 45
            Quote: AK64
            About the Spaniards - these are legends composed by their lords: first by the French and then by the British.

            Yeah, more Indians.

            Quote: AK64
            Poles

            For example, for the year 17
            Quote: AK64
            Czechs

            For working with the Nazis.

            Quote: AK64
            In the Russian Empire, more than 80% of the population were Russians (including Little Russians and Belorussians, and Cossacks). By 1990, the share of Russian in the USSR was LESS than half — that's the whole "friendship of peoples".

            How beautiful. So in the Republic of Ingushetia there were all Russians, but in the USSR malorosy and belorosy etc.
            1. 0
              28 May 2016 15: 13
              Yeah, more Indians.

              How many Indians do you personally know to say that?

              For example, for the year 17

              And what does the Poles have to do with the 17th year?

              For working with the Nazis.

              Most people work not because they love "fascists", but because they have a family and children to feed. Submission to the OWN state (all the more so non-initiative submission as among the Czechs - they were not eager to fight "fascists") is not an offense under any normal law.

              But the slave trade (or "go to a concentration camp as a guard" if you have another job) is already a personal grave choice. And for this it is already necessary to punish.

              Quote: AK64
              In the Russian Empire, more than 80% of the population were Russians (including Little Russians and Belorussians, and Cossacks). By 1990, the share of Russian in the USSR was LESS than half — that's the whole "friendship of peoples".


              How beautiful. So in the Republic of Ingushetia there were all Russians, but in the USSR malorosy and belorosy etc.

              That's right --- "divide and conquer".
              Or didn’t you hear about "divide and conquer"?
              They invented unknown "Ukrainians" to prove to some of the Russians that they are not Russian at all - we have a result.

              Yes, it’s not only this: in your "friendship of peoples" even the total share of Russians-Belarusians-Ukrainians has been steadily decreasing. While the "hero republic" - guess what kind of republic it is for such
              That's all your "friendship of peoples".
              / and spat
              1. 0
                27 October 2016 12: 43
                Quote: AK64
                Submission to OWN state (all the more so non-initiative submission as among the Czechs - they were not eager to fight the "fascists") is not an offense under any normal law.

                Well, at the expense of the Czechs, one can argue, because if you recall the history and what happened a thousand years ago, and what happened during the Civil War, you can find a lot of pretensions to them, even how they are for the opportunity to travel through the territory of the Red WITHOUT WATCH AND PERSONAL AND TRAINS were arrested and given to Kolchak, and then with his treasury they went to the Czech Republic to build factories with other people's money, yes, they gave part of the gold to red, but somewhere around 10% of the original amount ...
        3. +2
          28 May 2016 16: 27
          Quote: ShadowCat
          Of course. Better in Spanish - to the fire. Or in a slightly different way - to cut everyone out, since the Spaniards did this when traveling overseas?
          The Spaniards didn’t do it. It was a question of converting to Catholicism. No one specifically destroyed the Indians.
          There were many joint marriages, Creoles descendants from such marriages had equal rights with whites.
          1. +3
            30 May 2016 00: 33
            Quote: Beefeater
            The Spaniards didn’t do it. It was a question of converting to Catholicism. No one specifically destroyed the Indians.

            That's it. And even more interesting is the situation when it turns out that the local tribes of the New World simply threw themselves with yells of joy into the arms of the Spaniards who came, because ANY domination was better than the power of the Aztecs or Incas, respectively.
            1. 0
              16 May 2017 16: 50
              This we will not know, the rest is at the level of speculation!
    4. 0
      28 October 2016 07: 22
      Ours with them still humanely acted. Could and cut out all, like the Saxons of the Indians.
  2. +29
    28 May 2016 06: 48
    Yes, the same Germans - noble gayropeytsy - have many times more humane methods ....... and we, as always, are the worst ones - and the Crimean Tatars are unfortunate - there were so many unfortunate singers on Eurovision. I'm waiting for the song at Eurovision, how bad it was for the Germans in the Stalingrad cauldron ....... I would listen ..... I exaggerate of course .... well, the essence is .....
  3. +4
    28 May 2016 06: 53
    to discredit Russia as the legal successor of the Great — I’m not afraid of this word — the countries of the USSR — for the West, all means are good .....
  4. +36
    28 May 2016 07: 14
    This material had to be published before the collection of songbooks in Europe, when the first prize was awarded to a Tatar woman with Armenian roots. Prize for falsifying history.
    Remember Musa Jalil of the Tatar Hero, whom the Nazis tortured in the camp. Once, the directors of enterprises from Kazan asked me to take them to Myasnaya Bor, where Musa was captured. Tom fought the 2nd Shock Army. I then headed the 6th State University of the USSR Ministry of Radio and Radio Engineering, and Kazan enterprises were under my command. The Muse Monument is located in Kazan and is loved not only by the Tatars, but by all the inhabitants of Russia. Among the Crimean Tatars there is only one Hero of the Soviet Union, which instilled fear in Nazi pilots.
    The participation of the Crimean Tatars on the side of the Nazis is a shame for us all. So these people, if they can be considered as people, killed children, women in the Crimea of ​​a different nationality. Their eviction to Central Asia saved them from total extermination due to hatred of them for their affairs on the side of the Nazis.
    I recall the events of the liberation of Odessa by the Red Army on February 10, 1944. On the morning of February 11, when the troops of the NKVD ("SMERSH") entered the city, about 250 policemen were found hanged on the lanterns, who did not have time to escape with the Nazis and Romanians. They were executed by underground workers and civilians who survived. I have the honor.
    1. +9
      28 May 2016 08: 03
      Comrade Michman. These facts have long been known and published; read at least Igor Pykhalov. But our liberal media are stubbornly silent about them.
      1. +9
        28 May 2016 09: 51
        It means that more often it is necessary to remind us not to forget. Repetition is the mother of learning.
      2. +14
        28 May 2016 11: 18
        Even with the union, in the late 80s, there was material in the central press about how the Crimean Tatars met the Nazis with trays filled with soldier's books they killed during the retreat of the Red Army. Stalin treated them softly; he was too kind a man!
    2. +6
      28 May 2016 09: 03
      Well said!
    3. +9
      28 May 2016 09: 16
      Quote: midshipman
      Among the Crimean Tatars, there is only one Hero of the Soviet Union, which instilled fear in fascist pilots
      To begin with, Sultan Ahmet Khan - twice Hero of the Soviet Union, and he is a Crimean Tatar only half, by mother. By father - a lak, but, as you know, in the USSR, mainly by father, nationality was determined. Well, your lie about the only Crimean Tatar, awarded the highest Soviet award. In addition to Ahmet Khan, six representatives of this people were awarded the title of Hero, and even there is one Hero of the Polish Republic.
      Which completely does not justify the bulk of the Kyrymly who actively collaborated with the invaders. 10% from total the Crimean Tatar population that participated in the war on the side of the Nazis, this is generally an extraordinary figure.
    4. +2
      28 May 2016 11: 27
      Quote: midshipman
      I recall the events of the liberation of Odessa by the Red Army on February 10 1944. On the morning of February 11, when the NKVD troops entered the city ...

      Odessa was liberated on April 10.
  5. +18
    28 May 2016 07: 51
    What Krymchaks deserved from Hitler, for that they raided from Stalin! And there’s nothing for them to smear semolina on the table now!
    1. +3
      28 May 2016 11: 04
      Krymchaks are Crimean Jews. With the Crimean Tatars they had only common spoken language.
      1. 0
        28 May 2016 14: 10
        Krymchaks are Crimean Jews. With the Crimean Tatars they had only common spoken language.


        I think you messed with Karaites
        1. +2
          28 May 2016 17: 29
          You are mistaken. The Germans did not touch the Karaites, and the Krymchaks destroyed by 90%. The difference between the two is that the Karaites are Jews who do not recognize the Talmud, and the Crimeans recognize.
          1. +1
            28 May 2016 19: 02
            Interest Ask. In Trakai (near Vilnius), where the descendants of the Karaites who made up the life guards, it seems, Prince Vitovt, live, during the occupation there was a similar picture. Neither the Germans nor the Lithuanians touched, although the rest of the Jews were destroyed almost immediately. Karaites do not consider themselves Jews. But among the Jewish secretly ruling intelligentsia, a discussion on this issue took place a very long time ago (it seems that I had read about it at Brockhaus-Efron) and the issue was resolved unambiguously.
            1. +2
              29 May 2016 06: 32
              Quote: iouris
              Karaites do not consider themselves Jews. But among the Jewish secretly ruling intelligentsia, a discussion on this issue took place a very long time ago (it seems that I had read about it at Brockhaus-Efron) and the issue was resolved unambiguously.

              Today, Karaites are clearly considered to be other people. Jews are related to them perhaps the same roots of origin in the Middle Ages. The situation is similar for Serbs and Croats, who also came from the same root, but because of differences in religion, they became two different nations. By the way, Karaites are not the only people professing their form of religion, Samaritans living in Israel also profess their form of Judaism and are also a separate people. I note that the Israeli law of return applies to Karaites as well as to Jews. Israel has a relatively large community of Karaites.
              During the Second World War, several prominent Jewish scholars — M. Balaban (1877–1942), Z. Kalmanovich (1881–1944), and I. Shiper (1884–1943) — independently gave the German occupation authorities the conclusion that Karaites are not Jews racially, which saved the Karaites from mass destruction
              1. +1
                29 May 2016 13: 45
                Quote: Kaiten
                Today, Karaites are clearly considered to be other people. Jews are related to them perhaps the same roots of origin in the Middle Ages.

                Dear Kaiten, from your data it is still not clear - is it still a different people or a common origin? If we also take into account that the Karaites profess "pure" pre-Talmudic Judaism and have an insignificant degree of confusion? (at least from their point of view)

                The conclusions of any scientists, especially given during the war, are better left aside.

                Again, who are the Samartians? By origin, these do not seem to be Jews (immigrants from other areas), but professing one of the versions of Judaism.
        2. +1
          26 October 2016 12: 47
          Quote: AK64
          I think you messed with the Karaites

          No, he didn’t mislead anything. There were two peoples:
          1. Krymchak is a special ethnic group that spoke the Crimean Tatar language and professed rabbinic Judaism. Like many other Jews during the occupation was destroyed. that is, a whole nation was shot and no one of the living representatives of this ethos remained.
          2. Karaites profess Judaism in a special direction, not rabbinical. During the war, by the Karaites, the Nazis decided that they were not Jews, which allowed them to avoid the fate of the Krymchaks. Modern Karaites have the same right to repatriation to Israel as the rest of the Jews.
  6. +13
    28 May 2016 08: 01
    Our leadership is in a hurry handing out rehabilitation to the right and to the left. The language of the people does not dare to call the same Crimean Tatars, Chechens, Ingush, traitors to the Motherland. What problem is it to remind them once again that Stalin acted with such peoples very humane. In place of putting up guided by the laws of wartime, he simply evicted them from the wall, granting them life. This is the least people like Stalin about the humanity of Stalin.
    1. +21
      28 May 2016 09: 01
      The leadership was in a hurry because he really wanted the leadership to be bad. To forgive? You can forgive, but you can’t forget. We must not forget the 28000 Tatars policeman (with 20000 deserters), the massacre in the Crimea and Sevastopol, the Greek village burned with the inhabitants, partisans brutally destroyed. Remember the art of these "victims" in the Crimean War of 1854, or forget what they did in 1918. They remember in Sevastopol. “Whoever remembers the old, that eye is out!” And whoever forgets both! ”
  7. +15
    28 May 2016 08: 03
    Deportations today are condemned, and not only abroad. But the acts of these * offended * peoples are not condemned in any way, as if they had * the right * to betray and kill. It seems to me today it is required to conduct an open judicial investigation in the cases of all such * offended * and pronounce the verdict. All the descendants of * offended * and merciful will shut up at once when they openly consider what their fathers and grandfathers did. The wailing of * innocent convicts * must be considered in the tribunal, as it should be considered war crimes. So let them live with the shame of what their ancestors did. This will not revive the dead, but may there be justice in relation to the victims of the Nazis and their accomplices. Otherwise, it turns out that there are dead, but there are no killers.
    1. 0
      30 November 2016 19: 39
      forgiven Hungarians and Romanians. What about small \ tribes then say? only the Germans raked
  8. +6
    28 May 2016 08: 22
    . Since August 1941, leaflets with the promise “to finally solve the issue of the independence of the Crimean Tatar nation” rained down on Crimea from German planes. This was planned in the form of a protectorate of the Third Reich or Inium (joint management) of Germany and Turkey.
    The funny thing is that the leadership of the Reich planned "the revival of the Crimean kingdom is ready" - that is the creation of a special ethnic area for the Germans, and the Crimean Tatars were planned to be returned to their "historical homeland" - in Turan. So, unfortunately, in any case, they would have to undergo deportation - no matter who won the war - but in any case, the winner deported them (in one case for rampant collaboration, in the other case for occupying the lands of the ancient German tribe Goths and carved their remains in the Middle Ages).
  9. +24
    28 May 2016 09: 35
    He was on a business trip in Yalta and talked with a local Russian. He said that his neighbor, the Crimean Tatar, with whom they had been growing since childhood, openly declared to him: I love you as a brother and respect, but if the elders tell me, I’ll kill him. Out of respect - I'll kill you quickly. No offense ... Nobody talks about this, but in the spring of 2014. all Tatars organizedly went to the mountains and waited for who would prevail. Maydanuty would come, do not hesitate, they would slaughter the Russians with pleasure. They have caches with weapons, there are leaders and there is a goal - autonomy within Turkey. We are for them giaurs, infidels, who temporarily came to their land. They can’t be trusted. All Crimea today is filled with monuments deported. We are again made guilty, the story is repeated with the Poles, whom the NKVD of the Third Reich soaked. I agree that it’s not the time to remember the past now, stability is needed. But, in my opinion, there is a danger that our, so to speak, tolerance will be perceived by them as our weakness. I noticed that in the fields there are numerous sheds measuring 2 by 2 meters and also no more than 2 meters in height. I asked the locals what is it? It turned out that this is how the local Tatars mark their self-captures. Put a shed, - he staked out a plot of land. And the leadership of Crimea will not go anywhere, it will give up the land, or else ... Wild West, damn it! It is necessary to do so in Sochi, I will say that I am a Crimean Tatar to some extent.
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  10. +1
    28 May 2016 09: 45
    I am more and more indignant at the deportation of the Crimean Tatars. This is a big mistake of the "Stalinist regime". If there were no deportation, there would be no Crimean Tatars and songs about them now.
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  11. +2
    28 May 2016 09: 55
    The main tragedy was that everyone rowed under one comb. Not only the traitors and their families were punished, but the whole people. How could this be explained to these people?
    As of January 15, 1944, there were already 3733 partisans in the Crimea, of which Russians - 1944, Ukrainians - 348, Tatars - 598.
    Among the partisans who fought with the German troops from the first to the last day of the occupation (there are about 20 people in total) there are three Crimean Tatars: Memet Molochnikov, Seitkhalil Kadyev and Kurtseit Muratov. As the newspaper Krasny Krym wrote in September 1943, “... in the partisan detachments, the sons and daughters of the Tatar people, together with the Russians, mercilessly destroyed the fascists ...” The head of an independent large underground organization of Crimea was Abdula Dagdzhi, aka Uncle Volodya (the organization was defeated by the Germans, Dagji himself was executed). At the beginning of 1944, a partisan saboteur, Komsomol member Seidali Kurseitov was killed at the hands of Tatar collaborators. Izet Ibraimov, former first secretary of the Starokrymsk city party committee and school director. Having a good command of German, in the interests of Soviet intelligence, he worked as a translator in the Simferopol Directorate of the SD, led the 5 underground workers, during one of the raids he was identified by his fellow villager from Juma-Eli, was held in custody, was shot in February 1943.
    More than 1941 thousand Crimean Tatars from Crimea served in the ranks of the Red Army from 1945 to 35, and in total 60 thousand Crimean Tatars fought. Of the Crimean Tatars, there were more than 97 officers of the Soviet army, 36,6 of whom were women. 52% of the Crimean Tatars who fought were killed on the battlefield [80]. Most (about 127%) of the civilian population actively supported the Crimean partisan detachments. For this, XNUMX Crimean Tatar auls were destroyed by the invaders and collaborators.
    For participation in the Great Patriotic War, six Crimean Tatars (Teifuk Abdul, Uzeyir Abduramanov, Abduraim Reshidov, Fetislyam Abilov, Seitnafe Seitveliev and Ibraim Berkutov) were awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union, and Ametkhan Sultan was awarded this title twice [53]
    Three Seit-Nebi Abduramanov, Nasibulla Velilyaev and Bahiy Settarov are full holders of the Order of Glory.
    Already during the deportation to Moscow documents arrived for conferring the title of Heroes of the Soviet Union on 12 partisans from the Crimean Tatars, the title was not awarded to them because of the political situation [52].
    Captain Died Akmolla Adamanov - Hero of the Polish Republic. The partisan nickname is "Tatar Bear". Born in the village. Ayvasil of the Yalta district, captain of the Ludova guard, commander of the Soviet-Polish partisan detachment named after Kotovsky, who acted on the territory of Poland during the Great Patriotic War; Emir Usein Chalbash. A retired aviation colonel, an invalid of the I group of the Second World War, a holder of 9 military orders, a military pilot of the 1st class. [53]
    On September 1, 2014 by the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation V. V. Putin “for heroism, courage and courage shown during the Great Patriotic War”, Alima Abdenanova was posthumously awarded the title of Hero of the Russian Federation. Thus, she became the first Muslim woman to receive this award. [54]
    1. +9
      28 May 2016 10: 41
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      How could this be explained to these people?


      They explained, obeyed, granted amnesty, shook hands and said: "Who will remember the old ...". What else do you need to dance a polka-butterfly? We must live on and not commit rash.
      But how to explain the dispersal of the "Immortal Regiment" in Israel ??? And this is now in a country where the people consider themselves to be the most affected by the fascists. request
      1. +1
        28 May 2016 11: 13
        Quote: Lelek
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        How could this be explained to these people?

        They explained, obeyed, granted amnesty, shook hands and said: "Who will remember the old ...". What else do you need to dance a polka-butterfly? We must live on and not commit rash.
        Well, this is not about the Tatars today, but about those who honestly fought the Nazis during the Second World War.
        But how to explain the dispersal of the "Immortal Regiment" in Israel ??? And this is now in a country where the people consider themselves to be the most affected by the fascists. request
        no way to explain because this is bullshit. Whatever it is to write, just look at the photos of the Victory Day parades in Israel.
        1. 0
          29 May 2016 06: 49
          Quote: Lelek
          But how to explain the dispersal of the "Immortal Regiment" in Israel ??? And this is now in a country where the people consider themselves to be the most affected by the fascists.


          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          no way to explain because this is bullshit. Whatever it is to write, just look at the photos of the Victory Day parades in Israel.


          Classics of the genre. Lelek was caught lying, and he disappeared. Come on, a pensioner with a female nickname, burn with a verb. We are awaiting details of the dispersal of the Immortal Regiment in Israel.
      2. +1
        28 May 2016 11: 54
        [i] But how to explain the dispersal of the "Immortal Regiment" in Israel ??? And this is now in a country where the people consider themselves to be the most affected by the fascists [i]
        Listen Dear, this is already a lie !!!!! Look at the YouTube celebrations and the parade in Israel there are many videos posted. Who didn’t disperse anyone
    2. 0
      29 May 2016 17: 27
      Uvzh.N KVD and pft, fkb. All the trouble is that they acted according to the proverb "they will force the fool to pray to God, he will break his forehead." To maintain stability, Putin has to turn "ako uzu" imagines that they are gayrope, and most importantly, the Zaokiyans love them. As soon as Washington shifts its landmarks.
  12. +2
    28 May 2016 10: 05
    According to German data, in January 1945 in the armed forces of Germany, mainly in the SS, fought more than 10 thousand Crimean Tatars.

    Miracles... lol
    1. -1
      28 May 2016 10: 16
      Quote: whowhy
      According to German data, in January 1945 in the armed forces of Germany, mainly in the SS, fought more than 10 thousand Crimean Tatars.

      Miracles... lol

      That's it, that miracles. In all Crimean Tatar police companies there were less than 5 thousand Crimean Tatars. I'm not saying that mass collaboration was inherent in the occupied territories not only to the Crimean Tatars.
      1. 0
        28 May 2016 13: 28
        Collaborationism was inherent in the occupied territories not only to the Crimean Tatars. ,,
        those who were caught alive, they answered. but who weren’t, they found, “killing themselves,”
  13. +2
    28 May 2016 11: 17
    Anyway worse ukrov there is nothing in the world. If Russia can stand it
    the attack of the Anglo-Saxons and will develop further, the Tatars are more likely
    integrate, in the end the most important thing is to stand now,
    and everything else will follow. And of course, the Khrushchev shit.
  14. +2
    28 May 2016 12: 37
    interestingly .. the Germans had their own plans at the expense of the Crimean Tatars. hehe, in principle, they realized them for Stalin's friend reasons, and the island of Crimea itself would become a resort for the German elite
  15. -3
    28 May 2016 17: 42
    WHY is this article written? Throughout the long history of the Russian state, there have always been situations when the relationship of a nation with the Center turned into an armed confrontation or was very strained. There are many examples. Take, for example, the armed uprisings of the Bashkirs of the 18th century. But this does not give the right to doubt the current loyalty of the people to the established form of statehood or, God forbid, to see collaborators in the face of a whole people.
    1. +5
      28 May 2016 18: 14
      WHY is this article written? Throughout the long history of the Russian state, there have always been situations when the relationship of a nation with the Center turned into an armed confrontation or was very strained. There are many examples. Take, for example, the armed uprisings of the Bashkirs of the 18th century.


      Do not confuse, the Bashkirs did not trade the slave trade.
      Slave traders / slave owners must be destroyed.
  16. +6
    28 May 2016 18: 53
    All indigenous peoples of the USSR suffered. But now it's all a story. History just needs to be known. Those who live today are not repressed. Till.
    Not the Russians expelled the Crimean Tatars and not the Russian Federation. Russians are the hardest hit and exploited people. After one commander of the special forces of the Federal Republic of Germany once expressed himself in the spirit of "what a 'holocaust', look what they did to the Russians," he was immediately dismissed.
    But we must think about the future, i.e. about the economy.
    1. +1
      28 May 2016 22: 35
      But we must think about the future, i.e. about the economy.


      That is, the primacy of the belly and over the soul, and over the intellect?
    2. 0
      28 May 2016 22: 35
      But we must think about the future, i.e. about the economy.


      That is, the primacy of the belly and over the soul, and over the intellect?
  17. +9
    28 May 2016 19: 01
    Quote: Schultz
    I completely agree with you, because the angle of incidence is equal to the angle of reflection for deportation, which is why we got a double terry column. And, to take the same Ukrainians, they should bow to the legs of Joseph Vissarionovich, and so that in each house under the images of his portrait - he took pity on them, because as of November 01.11.41, 43 the mobilization plan in Ukraine was only 57% complete, i.e. under wartime laws, the remaining XNUMX% are either deserters or Hitler's accomplices.

    Deported, so it was necessary not to return back. My parents told me that when in 1956 the Karachays began to return from deportation, the Ponazhovism was terrible, they cut the Russians left and right. But the beginning of the Khrushchev thaw was in the yard, and you will not see this in more than one statistic. And please do not breed internationalism. There are nations that, due to their historically established way of life and mentality, simply do not deserve a normal attitude towards themselves. They have always been and will be a nail in the ass, they only understand the language of power, and good things do not work with them. There are a million examples. And really the Crimean Tatars hoped for leniency from the German command. Would the Germans have won that war, would they have cleared them under a clean one, or do they think (so far) that they are the salt of the earth? They were used only when they were needed, but if betrayal is in the blood, then no one needs them. How much you need to be stupid, so as not to understand such truths. They do not want to live in peace, then let them not be offended.
  18. +5
    28 May 2016 19: 18
    Why is the article written? The tragedy in Khatyn was organized by Ukrainian nationalists, and they told us at the school that the Nazis. And all because they wouldn’t sow ethnic hatred. It wasn’t necessary to evict. The time would have dotted all i, and deportation is a trump card in the hands of the Chubarovs , Dzhemilev, Islyamov ....... Jamalov!
    1. +2
      28 May 2016 20: 50
      And in every article about Crimean Tatars this photo is posted with either Bosnians or Croats, I don’t remember who they are, the Yugoslav Muslims are shorter.
    2. 0
      30 May 2016 17: 58
      I think if they would not have been evicted, then today there would be no Crimean Tatar people and problems associated with them.
  19. 0
    28 May 2016 22: 05
    And Tatar women and children also fought with the partisans. Why it was impossible to court to send specific culprits to the north, such as with Bandera. Or Ukrainians were too much to deport.
    1. +3
      28 May 2016 22: 34
      And Tatar women and children also fought with the partisans. Why it was impossible to court to send specific culprits to the north, such as with Bandera. Or Ukrainians were too much to deport.


      And why did civilized Americans send ALL Japanese to the camps?
      That’s why you must cut both cancer and gangrene according to the living, and not the dead - that’s why.
  20. +3
    29 May 2016 06: 13
    A good / correct article and a reminder of who is who, well, and most importantly, WE have nothing to apologize to them for, but vice versa!
  21. +3
    29 May 2016 10: 13
    Quote: Author Alexey Baliev
    Only by the end of the 80's in Moscow did “innovations” appear on this issue. Which, as shown by subsequent and current events in the region, could not help but promote the growth of Crimean Tatar nationalism.

    Yes, this nationalism has not gone anywhere. They even wanted to throw Germans, to join their native Turkey. And today, nothing new has appeared, all the same separatist tendencies, and all in the same direction.
  22. Everything is very simple: when repeating those conditions (1941-1944) on which side will the Crimean Tatars fight? Massively? hi
  23. +1
    29 May 2016 22: 20
    “Well, you can’t do that, gentlemen!” The paramilitary website! am
    - In the photo presented in the article, soldiers of the 13th division of the SS "Khanjar", mountain, or 1st Croatian, recruited from the Muslim Bosnians!
  24. +2
    30 May 2016 00: 16
    Quote: saygon66
    In the photo presented in the article, soldiers of the 13th division of the SS "Khanjar", mountain, or 1st Croatian, recruited from the Bosnian Muslims!

    Do you think that in other Muslim parts of the SS the uniform was different?

    But by the way, the Crimean Tatars did not seem to have served in "Kharashare", they did not serve at all in the combat units of the SS, but in the units of "volunteer assistants" - "Khivi" and in the "forces of local law and order."


    In general, the Germans initially planned to reduce the Crimean and Tatars in general, even to the military units no higher than the battalion, and after the desertion of one battalion in almost full strength - they were used only on a paratrooper basis, the maximum strength of the weak battalion in several temporary reduced companies.

    Quote: Alex
    Yes, this nationalism has not gone anywhere. They even wanted to throw Germans, to join their native Turkey. And today, nothing new has appeared, all the same separatist tendencies, and all in the same direction.
    Yes, yes, they planned (especially if Turkey got into the war) to revive the Crimean Khanate and come under Turkish rule. And the Germans wanted to abandon them, planning the revival of the Crimean Gothia, but "forgetting" to inform the Crimean Tatars about these plans, who tried so hard! laughing These are the "partnerships"! so to speak "worthy fighting brotherhood"!
    1. +3
      30 May 2016 00: 50
      - Only in the 44th year, the Crimeans were brought to the East Turkic SS unit ... Before that they served in the "Shuma", and they wore whoever they wanted ...
      - On the buttonholes from the first photo, a hand with a crooked khanjar sword is clearly visible ...
  25. +1
    12 June 2016 21: 31
    foul people these Krymchaks. lived next door in sr. Asia. I can’t remember anything good about them
  26. +2
    6 July 2016 02: 17
    I completely agree with Ingvar 72, Alex, renics and Fotoceva 62. It is only a shame that the descendants and relatives of such as representatives of the Crimean Tatars have outraged Stalin and Beria because each people has its Cain. I know how the relatives of the deported Banderaites hated the Russians and how they raised their children in this hatred all these years and what this has led Ukraine now. Because they were afraid to affect them, cherished their feelings. But these fascists now kill civilians of Donbass every day, they will not spare anyone, they cannot be taken prisoner.
  27. 0
    23 October 2016 12: 13
    Nationalism is a form of struggle for private property in the process of transition from one socio-economic formation to another. Until 1917, the Crimean Tatars and, for example, the Georgians were in a privileged position in relation to the Russian (draft) population, receiving high differential rents from their fertile land and natural and climatic conditions.
    The tsar was overthrown, after 1917 all national problems were "solved", the ideological-class approach worked, all peoples were placed in a "common system", rent was withdrawn into a common boiler. During the war, the enemy's propaganda created the romantic illusion that the defeat of the Bolsheviks would allow the Crimean Tatar population to expel those who "came in large numbers", to seize everything and divide "in fairness" among "their own". How the process is going can actually be seen on the example of Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Ukraine.
    Globalization is the destruction of ineffective industries. And this means the destruction of the material living conditions of peoples that are not included in the "golden billion".
    And the last thing. The deportation of peoples was carried out not by "Russians" but by "internationalists". In the leadership of the CPSU (b), Russians were in the minority. An anti-Russian national and economic policy was pursued in the USSR, which scattered the resources of the Russian state-forming people over the "backward national outskirts." This is our common history. History must be known and understood in order to correctly assess the existing conditions, available resources and set real development goals.
    At the heart of Nazism is the recognition of its exclusivity and efficiency, labeling competitors with the labels "quilted jacket", "genetic trash". And with Nazism, for example, we must mercilessly fight not with a kind word and not only with a pistol.
  28. +2
    23 October 2016 20: 05
    I do not believe. THIS is not forgiven. Should have disappeared, died, disappeared. Deserved. You will go to Crimea and talk with the locals, WHAT they did, I could not even imagine that. Such an atrocity that I cannot convey. There will not be and cannot be "friendship" with these geeks. You can't leave them in the Crimea, they are non-humans (accent on the first syllable). I respect the Germans, despite the fascism, and DESTROY these. They will wait in the wings, and then rip open the stomachs of pregnant women and bury the children alive. No sanctions are worth such a betrayal of the memory of our killed, without guilt, without trial, simply destroyed.
  29. +1
    26 October 2016 21: 00
    if you read the Turkish blogs about the genocide of the Armenians, the same thing the Turks say about the Armenians.
    Armenians traitors, fought on the side of Russia, vilely attacked Turkish soldiers, cruelly
    slaughtered civilians, etc. And like telling them right ... and the deportation of Armenians was a blessing and salvation for the Armenians.
    Imperials are the same everywhere ...
  30. +1
    29 October 2016 00: 53
    What can I say here, the Nazis very competently used the ambitions of a small people to their advantage. A small ethnic community perceives today as unchanged i.e. it will always be. We believed in our VICTORY, they easily believed in the victory of the Nazis and most importantly believed that they would be given independence and freedom, and no one could convince them that the Nazis would defeat us, they would simply be dared like annoying dolls . Easier - everyone would be killed. Well, they did not have any value for Germany other than creating problems for our army and resistance. Well, just read Adolf! Everything is written there.
  31. +1
    29 October 2016 15: 37
    About deportation - it was more than justified. Therefore, the Crimean Tatars have survived as a species. The partisans who returned from the forest would not have written reports to the Hague Tribunal, they would have coped quickly themselves. So the Tatars had to thank Stalin for his displayed humanism. Further. Deportation at that time was very widespread in the world - suffice it to recall the Sudeten Germans, because of whose speeches the partition of Czechoslovakia took place in 1938, etc. After 1945, these Germans were "illegally repressed", and until now no one for them repents and does not return. Only here we suddenly began to recognize Nazi accomplices as "innocent victims." And finally. In 2003, the Simferopol publishing house "Sonat" published the book "900 days in the mountains of the Crimea", the author is A. A. Sermul, then the commissar of the partisan detachment. On page 57 there is interesting information, how, after the pilot Amet-khan Sultan was awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union, a group of partisans was sent to his relatives in Alupka with the aim of taking them out of the occupied Crimea, since the Germans killed all their relatives. The partisans could hardly get out of Alupka themselves, since all of the Hero's relatives served in the Sonderkommando.
    1. +1
      30 November 2016 19: 34
      Back in the early 80's, to my question about the Tata-x Crimea, my father said: they all went to serve the Germans and quickly captured all our partisans, they knew the area.
      Who could come down from the mountains?
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        5 December 2016 23: 50
        As for "overfishing all the partisans" - you are in vain. Not all.
  32. 0
    30 November 2016 19: 32
    Tauris sounds better, more ancient. The name is historical. Better yet, some Scythian.
    Who is lobbying or promoting a renaming campaign?
    On banners in Crimea, you can place notes about the "arts" of traitors. Apparently deliberately passed.
  33. +2
    28 December 2016 10: 47
    To begin with, the Crimean Tatars must repent, ask for forgiveness and condemn the desertion from the Red Army and Hitler’s service. They first began to realize the guilt of their grandfathers for deportation.
  34. +2
    April 11 2017 13: 18
    Deportation was the rescue of Tatars from revenge of Crimeans of other nationalities for what these reptiles were doing during the occupation. Forgive the traitors!
  35. +2
    April 24 2017 20: 55
    I think that the Tatars acted too gently. They will never be brothers - just give the slack, they will immediately stab a knife in the back, whether you are at least a woman, even a child. I was in Crimea and had seen enough documentary evidence of their atrocities. And Mr. ShadowCat himself needs to flare that yell that he poses his liberalistic shit. Our slogan includes not only "Nobody is forgotten", but also "Nothing is forgotten!". It is they who must repent and be punished, as accomplices of Nazism, without this, the Crimean Tatars are sleeping cells of a sweet-singing beast.
    PS Gentlemen admins, return the minuses, it will be fair.
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