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Maidan virus in Kazakhstan spreads through the Land Code?

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The largest Russian media, which very vividly covered the events, for example, of the “electric Maidan” in Yerevan, for some reason decided to ignore what was happening the other day in several regions in the north of Kazakhstan. What is the reason for this “ignore”? Either because the leaders of certain media decided that the May events in the friendly (fraternal) republic today do not fit into the direction in which these events can be given a clear assessment, or simply did not consider it necessary to cover the North Kazakhstan actions due to the presence of other (apparently more noteworthy) events in the world.

So what was happening in the neighboring country these days, and why was it decided to raise this question on our information and analytical portal?

The fact is that the Kazakh authorities some time ago decided to initiate amendments to the current Land Code of the country. With the growing number of economic problems due to falling oil prices, which many exporters of “black gold” are facing today, official Astana decides to find alternative mechanisms to fill the state budget. As one of such mechanisms, the authorities of the Republic of Kazakhstan decided to carry out a certain kind of changes to the Land Code.

The changes concern, for example, the fact that the citizens of the Republic of Kazakhstan will be able to privatize and buy back land that is not used by the state. But that was not the stumbling block. The amendments indicated that foreign citizens will be able to get an opportunity for medium-term land leases in Kazakhstan. The time for which citizens of foreign countries will be able to lease land from the Government of the Republic of Kazakhstan is limited to 25 years. No changes due to the fact that after the expiration of this period, foreign individuals and legal entities will be able to formalize this land into ownership, the document does not provide.

Despite the fact that we are talking about the possibility of foreigners renting land, there were a considerable number of citizens in Kazakhstan who considered that the amendments to the Land Code affected the statehood and sovereignty of Kazakhstan. Apparently, the key word of the bill “foreigners” has become a major irritant for individual citizens of the Republic of Kazakhstan.

Maidan virus in Kazakhstan spreads through the Land Code?


The first groups of Kazakhstanis began to form, who expressed dissatisfaction with the initiative of the authorities of the republic. And if at first the protests were fairly calm, by mid-May, Kazakhstani nationalists decided to ride the wave of these same protests, announcing that Nursultan Nazarbayev "is selling the country to the Chinese." Sells or offers to rent - during the protests, no one was going to concretize, but in the end it all came down to the protest formula “rent = sale”.

21 May on the streets of several large cities (and not only in the north of the Republic of Kazakhstan) - Atyrau, Uralsk, Pavlodar, Semey (Semipalatinsk), Astana, Almaty (Alma-Ata) - protests took place. Unauthorized ... Several thousand people took part in them, among whom radical nationalists behaved most actively. Initially, the main slogan was a slogan about dubious amendments to the Land Code, and then from the crowd cursed at President Nazarbayev and shouts in the Kazakh “It's time for the old man to leave!”
Not without frank provocations, when the most zealous protesters decided on the Maidan scenario to face off with law enforcement officials. The most zealous were caught and taken to the investigation sites.

And, it’s necessary that the Kazakh police didn’t have time to “accept” the first “violent” rally, the most democratic media in the world decided to get involved - well, the very ones that are not used to express outrage if, for example, French police are poisoning protesters tear gas and shoots rubber bullets, but which is violently outraged in cases where the police perform their duties in countries that are "in the sights of democracy." One of these countries is Kazakhstan.

Kazakhstan "daughter" Radio Liberty immediately published a heart-rending footage of how Kazakhstani policemen wring their hands in a pink blouse. Apparently, the young lady is more concerned about the "Nazarbayev regime" and the fact that "the Chinese are about to take the land from her."



One more:


Another immensely democratic structure - Amnesty International demanded that the authorities of Kazakhstan immediately release all the detainees, whom they routinely called “activists”. From materials Amnesty International:

The authorities of Kazakhstan should immediately and unconditionally release more than three dozen activists who were arrested, probably in order to prevent the holding of peaceful demonstrations. (...)

From 17 to 19 in May, at least 24 people were detained in different parts of Kazakhstan: Manas Abdimanapra, Makhambet Abzhan, Moldir Adilova, Suyundyk Aldabergenov, Baurzhan Alipkaliyev, Ibrahim Alserke, Talgat Ayan, Max Bokaev, Aybolat Bukenov, Zadyra, Zadyra, Zadyra, Zydyra, Zydyra, Zydyra, Zyhira, Azerbaijan, Azrakhar Ilyasuly, Farida Ishmukhametova, Geroykhan Kistaubaev, Kasym Kozhantaev, caterpillar, Daniyar Kultaev, Kuat Kunbolatov, Aslan Kurmanbayev, Kurmangazy Rakhmetov, Kuanysh Sultanalin, Kenzhebek Sultanbekov, Bakhytzhan Toregozhina, Marat U Utr

At least 34 activists were arrested throughout Kazakhstan, and many of them for the “crime” that they publicly declared their intention to take part in the peaceful protest actions of 21 in May, or that they published information about these promotions on Facebook or other social networks.


Kazakh law enforcement officers actually left in custody those who actively used social networks to recruit protesters. At the same time, on the pages in the aforementioned Facebook, there were published not just calls to come “for a peaceful rally”, but also statements about the need to change the Kazakh authorities. In three times democratic Washington, it is possible to get a life sentence for this, and in undemocratic Kazakhstan, an arrest for 48 hours. But since the activity of “freedom” and “international amnesty” does not extend to Washington for obvious reasons, they can afford to “pinch” Astana ...

In general, this time the cultivation of “Facebook land Maidan” went, which our common “partners” would love to do in Kazakhstan.

Another thing is that in this situation “official” was almost not encouraged by official Astana itself, which, against the background of the economic crisis, decided to raise the issue of renting land by foreigners. Initially, it was clear that such an initiative is a real gift for the radicals of the Kazakhstani spill, who will try to ride the wave of quite understandable popular discontent. If the authorities of the Republic of Kazakhstan really believe that the 25-year lease of land by foreigners will add to the country's budget money that can give an impetus to the economy, this raises questions to the authorities of Kazakhstan. Still, it seems that not “Yatsenyuk” sit there, and therefore others can find - more realistic sources of replenishment of the treasury (without citizens' discontent).

Due to the obvious tension in the society (regarding the new amendments to the Land Code), it was decided to postpone consideration of these amendments in Kazakhstan. And the nationalists have already started up! .. They say: we want to continue the banquet! .. But Nursultan Abishevich is not Viktor Fedorovich, not for the first year in the presidential chair, and many “Maidans” have seen their neighbors to continue this “banquet” in the same spirit. .. He stopped, pondered, set goals ... The main thing is that the results of the amendment of the Land Code, as in one great independent power, should not be reduced to "preparing for the land." Well then, Abishevich is in power, so that without hysteria and without gifts to the radicals.
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  1. Naiman
    Naiman 26 May 2016 06: 05
    +7
    In the millionth of Almaty - no more than 10 thousand people. And that’s because activists came from all over Kazakhstan. The technique was not applied. They showed that it arrived in the millionth city ..... 3 armored personnel carriers 80. In Aktobe, 2 thousand. In Semey - well, a thousand. In some cities there was nothing at all.
    To raise tariffs in the 90s, pensioners across Kazakhstan blocked bridges, it was worse.
    1. Igor39
      Igor39 26 May 2016 06: 25
      +13
      There were about 30 people in Pavlodar on the embankment, I specially went to see them, nobody paid any attention to them. People are busy, the summer season has begun, there is no time to jump.
      1. Wild_grey_wolf
        Wild_grey_wolf 26 May 2016 07: 07
        +4
        Quote: Igor39
        There were about 30 people in Pavlodar on the embankment, I specially went to see them, nobody paid any attention to them. People are busy, the summer season has begun, there is no time to jump.


        It turns out we are countrymen. . . I did not go to look at the embankment, but they told me about 30 not very smart people.

        Quote: Still, it is thought that it is not the “Yatsenyuk” who are sitting there, and therefore others may find more realistic sources of replenishing the treasury (without the dissatisfaction of citizens).

        There are enough different officials and worse "Yatsenyuk" is in our city. The only question is about foreignness in the land code. ... ... this could be specially prepared by traitors at the top, corrupt ones. Because ordinary people in general do not know about these promotions. ... ... not before, a MAN works and does not use Facebook.
        1. Igor39
          Igor39 26 May 2016 07: 16
          0
          Greetings! Glad to meet you smile
          1. 1rl141
            1rl141 26 May 2016 10: 29
            +6
            Quote: Igor39
            Greetings! Glad to meet you smile

            And I greet you, countrymen. I am also Pavlodar.
            Brothers Kazakhs! Crush this "democratic" hydra while it's small!
            1. Wild_grey_wolf
              Wild_grey_wolf 26 May 2016 10: 32
              +2
              Quote: 1rl141
              Quote: Igor39
              Greetings! Glad to meet you smile

              And I greet you, countrymen. I am also Pavlodar.
              Brothers Kazakhs! Crush this "democratic" hydra while it's small!


              It turns out HOW it happens.
        2. razmik72
          razmik72 26 May 2016 08: 23
          0
          [quote = Wild_Grey_Wolf] [quote = Igor39] In Pavlodar, there were about 30 people on the embankment, I specially went to see nobody paid attention to them. People have started, the summer season has begun, there’s no time to skip. [/ quote]

          It turns out we are countrymen. . . I did not go to look at the embankment, but they told me about 30 not very smart people.
          If people go out into the street with their demands, they are at best "not smart people." This article also mentioned the so-called "elektromaydan" in Yerevan. The main message of the publications on VO at that time was that these Armenians wanted to overthrow "God's anointed" Serzhik S. Argsyan and arrange a "Maidan" like the Ukrainian one. Nothing similar happened, people shouted, achieved small concessions and went home. What this led to was shown by the four-day military confrontation in early April, when the Azerbaijani army with a sudden blow was able to take rather small territories for the first time since 1994, but the main thing is that the Armenian army was not able to recapture the What they did not frighten the Armenians last summer, for example, they wrote that in the event of the departure of Sergei Argsyan, so beloved by the Russians (hereinafter I will call him in short - sergeant) laughing Russia will not provide assistance to Armenia in the event of an attack from the West or East. There was an attack, but I did not see or see help, and Armenia would not need help if a normal president were sitting in Yerevan, and not this clown who I didn’t even bother to think about weapons for the Armenian army, it’s busy cutting the budget, in Armenia there are clear fees for posts. For example, the position of an investigator in the SU is quoted for $ 30000, the position of a traffic police inspector is $ 18000– $ 20000, we even thought put up a teacher position for sale - 2000-3000 dollars, etc. Shameless robbery of the country led to monstrous emigration, as a result, the Armenian army was not combat-ready. On this site, Russians often ask rhetorical questions:
          "Where, for example, are the armed forces of Armenia, do we not see them next to us in Syria?"
          I want to say to this question that Armenia, if they continue to lead it in this way, will not be able to protect even its own borders, not to mention to come to the aid of an ally.
          1. Wild_grey_wolf
            Wild_grey_wolf 26 May 2016 08: 34
            +3
            Here, the question is not that if people go out, then they are not automatically smart. . . and how this happens, what requirements, for what purpose. . . This event showed just what the population thinks and does not encourage the requirements to be achieved by destroying the STATE. I would like this trend to continue.
            1. Wild_grey_wolf
              Wild_grey_wolf 26 May 2016 08: 40
              +3
              And on our site there were articles about the fact that all sorts of trash ambassadors go to Omsk and to Novosibirsk and Yekaterinburg. . . people pour dirt into their ears with the addition of life's problems for escalating hatred. . . here they are for Kazakhstan. And all this is nearby one region.

              I hope all these incendiaries will return many times over, all that they do.
              1. jjj
                jjj 26 May 2016 08: 57
                +1
                Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
                What this led to was shown by a four-day military confrontation at the beginning of April, when the Azerbaijani army was able to take quite small territories for the first time since 1994, but the main thing is that the Armenian army was not able to recapture the territories occupied from us.

                And you, apparently, believe that Russia should recapture the occupied lands
                1. Wild_grey_wolf
                  Wild_grey_wolf 26 May 2016 09: 16
                  +2
                  Quote: jjj
                  Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
                  What this led to was shown by a four-day military confrontation at the beginning of April, when the Azerbaijani army was able to take quite small territories for the first time since 1994, but the main thing is that the Armenian army was not able to recapture the territories occupied from us.

                  And you, apparently, believe that Russia should recapture the occupied lands


                  We have a conversation about Kazakhstan, I have nothing to do with the opinion and comment of razmik72. . .
                2. razmik72
                  razmik72 26 May 2016 09: 20
                  +1
                  Quote: jjj
                  Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
                  What this led to was shown by a four-day military confrontation at the beginning of April, when the Azerbaijani army was able to take quite small territories for the first time since 1994, but the main thing is that the Armenian army was not able to recapture the territories occupied from us.

                  And you, apparently, believe that Russia should recapture the occupied lands

                  From what part of my commentary did you conclude that I believe that "Russia should recapture the occupied lands." It is your protégé SERGEANT who thinks so and unleashed here, in Armenia, anti-Russian hysteria through the media controlled by him.
          2. Cossack Ermak
            Cossack Ermak 26 May 2016 13: 28
            +1
            There was no legal attack on Armenia. There was an attack on Karabakh. By that time, even Armenia itself had not recognized him. So do not drag Russia into an internal showdown.
            1. razmik72
              razmik72 26 May 2016 13: 55
              +1
              Quote: Cossack Ermak
              There was no legal attack on Armenia. There was an attack on Karabakh. By that time, even Armenia itself had not recognized him. So do not drag Russia into an internal showdown.

              Cossack, give specific examples where I, in my comment, "pulled Russia into internal squabbles."
        3. user
          user 26 May 2016 09: 08
          +1
          among which the most active were the radical nationalists. Initially, the main slogan was the slogan about the dubious amendments to the Land Code, and then curses fell on the crowd against President Nazarbayev and shouts in Kazakh “It's time for the old man to leave!”


          And no matter how many of them came out, Radio Liberty will do everything to make everyone think that the whole republic has left. Remember the Maidan - "THEY ARE CHILDREN"
          This is the result of the very "Many vector policies" that Nazarbayev is pursuing - a type of open democracy.
          So we are waiting for what the "guarantor of the Constitution" will answer.
      2. 1rl141
        1rl141 26 May 2016 10: 37
        +1
        Quote: Igor39
        In Pavlodar, 30 people were on the embankment

        There is a fountain on the embankment, like a waterfall with an illumination. And signs warning that it's dangerous to climb into the water. Ebom toknet. Residents of Pavlodar! Leave these "democrats" to the fountain! Electro-shock therapy is useful for brain activity!
        1. razmik72
          razmik72 26 May 2016 10: 59
          0
          Quote: 1rl141
          Quote: Igor39
          In Pavlodar, 30 people were on the embankment

          There is a fountain on the embankment, like a waterfall with an illumination. And signs warning that it's dangerous to climb into the water. Ebom toknet. Residents of Pavlodar! Leave these "democrats" to the fountain! Electro-shock therapy is useful for brain activity!

          Shock therapy would not interfere with any government, every year, or better six months, it would not be bad to apply the procedure you proposed, you see, the government would be cleared of crooks and bribe-takers, there would be real "servants of the people."
      3. 1rl141
        1rl141 26 May 2016 10: 53
        -2
        Quote: Igor39
        In Pavlodar, 30 people were on the embankment

        There is a fountain on the embankment, like a waterfall with an illumination. And signs warning that it's dangerous to climb into the water. Ebom toknet. Residents of Pavlodar! Leave these "democrats" to the fountain! Electro-shock therapy is useful for brain activity!
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      5. siberalt
        siberalt 26 May 2016 10: 58
        +1
        This summer season in Moscow has begun. And in Kazakhstan, people plow in garden plots, as well as throughout Russia. hi
      6. adept666
        adept666 26 May 2016 19: 11
        +1
        was specially went to see, nobody paid attention to them.
        The police turned, one was taken for conversation and the administrator. arrest.
    2. Alibekulu
      Alibekulu 26 May 2016 10: 14
      +4
      21 May on the streets of several large cities (and not only in the north of the Republic of Kazakhstan) - Atyrau, Uralsk, Pavlodar, Semey (Semipalatinsk), Astana, Almaty (Alma-Ata) - protests took place. Unauthorized ...
      Of course unauthorized laughing Volodin ought to know that, in principle, there are no authorized rallies, except for the Nur-Otanovites .. statements on holding sanctioned meetings were filed, but the EU-but they were not allowed .. and how to be in this case .. request
      The time for which foreign citizens can lease land from the Government of the Republic of Kazakhstan is limited to 25 years
      As it were, about six months before the speeches, in all the state-run mass media of RK they trumpeted the conclusion of multi-billion memorandums with the PRC on the production of agricultural products. Well, the people put two and two together ..
      not reduced to "preparing for the ground"
      Nurek is clever, thinks a few steps forward .. And already even thinks about the Mausoleum ..
      Well, if about Russian experts, then:
      Alexander Kostin - Deputy General Director of the Institute of National Strategy (Moscow), member of the expert council of the Committee on Defense of the State Duma of the Russian Federation.
      All this is nonsense. There is no prerequisite for a coup - an analogue of the "Swamp" - in Kazakhstan
      First of all, elites are consolidated there, and the urban class is quite loyal to its own country. In Kazakhstan, there is no cargo cult of Western Europe. There is not a wide base of extremists, which could be a street tool.
      Nationalists ceased to exist in Kazakhstan as a respectable political force two years ago. Therefore, there is no opposition that could challenge the authorities.
      That narrow anti-state discourse in tandem with the cargo cult of European civilization, which our so-called “non-systemic opposition” adheres to, is marginalized and isolated in Kazakhstan in a narrow group of representatives of creative professions.
      What happened?
      There was a surge of social discontent, primarily associated with the general economic crisis - the standard of living has fallen dramatically
      And this speaks not about the political fronde, but about the lack of feedback channels of the authorities and society. Accumulated...
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      2. siberalt
        siberalt 26 May 2016 11: 08
        +2
        We have vodka and cigarettes from Kazakhstan half the price of Russian. The price is stable. Everyone is happy. It is interesting to find out from neighbors what is your average loaf of bread in terms of rubles.
        1. marshes
          marshes 26 May 2016 11: 19
          +4
          Quote: siberalt
          We have vodka and cigarettes from Kazakhstan half the price of Russian. The price is stable. Everyone is happy. It is interesting to find out from neighbors what is your average loaf of bread in terms of rubles.

          In the morning I took from me, a suburb of Almaty. Private bakery 80 tg. divide by five 16 rubles.
          Lamb in private traders 1200 tg kg-240 r., Beef 1300-260r.
          1. Andrey KZ
            Andrey KZ 26 May 2016 15: 29
            +2
            Quote: marshes
            In the morning I took from me, a suburb of Almaty. Private bakery 80 tg. divide by five 16 rubles.
            Lamb in private traders 1200 tg kg-240 r., Beef 1300-260r.

            In Shym bread - 40 tenge (8 rub). Meat, more expensive than 1000, only horse meat.
            1. marshes
              marshes 26 May 2016 15: 36
              +1
              Quote: Andrey KZ
              In Shym bread - 40 tenge (8 rub). Meat, more expensive than 1000, only horse meat.

              Well, Shym is a hospitable city, there are the lowest prices in Kazakhstan. That's interesting, in Taraz it used to be cheaper than Almaty, under Bozumbayev, Now everything is more expensive, at least meat. I stopped transporting sausages from Ata for travel.
        2. Igor39
          Igor39 26 May 2016 11: 55
          +3
          We have the so-called Semirechensky, a roll of 50 tenge, 10 rubles, meat was recently taken pork neck 1200 tenge, 240 rubles, beef is also worth it, fish pollock, hake, 500 tenge. on average, 100 rubles., AI92 gasoline 125 tg., 25 rubles. I am not interested in vodka, but at least 500 tenge costs 0,5 rubles, the cheapest, 100 tg. cigarettes, like the most inexpensive, 200 rubles.
    3. DimanC
      DimanC 27 May 2016 05: 51
      +1
      It doesn't matter how many people come. The media will show such angles that "there are thousands" of them. This is the whole point.
  2. Nikolay K
    Nikolay K 26 May 2016 06: 05
    +4
    They got propagandists who reduce any discontent of the people to power to betrayal and indulgence of the Western color revolutions. If the authorities commit obvious nonsense, if it is frankly corrupt, snickering and relaxing, then this is by no means the people to blame. The West, of course, always wants to take advantage of the discontent of ordinary citizens, but the only way to prevent this is for politicians to conduct an adequate policy, that is, simply engage in their own work, rather than steal and fatten in the workplace.
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 26 May 2016 06: 25
      +2
      Quote: Nikolai K
      If the authorities commit obvious nonsense, if it is openly corrupt, snickering and relaxing, then this is by no means the people to blame

      Quote: Nikolai K
      the only way to prevent this is for politicians to conduct an adequate policy, that is, simply engage in their own work, rather than steal and fatten in the workplace.

      Nikolay. I’m wondering .... if you put you in the place of the mayor of the city, how long will your honesty and intransigence last? And I would like to hear what you will say after a year of sitting in a large office on a soft armchair?
      1. Deniska999
        Deniska999 26 May 2016 07: 06
        +7
        And the people do not have the right to express their dissatisfaction with the actions of the government? Should I always be silent?
        1. vmo
          vmo 26 May 2016 07: 38
          -1
          You need to express your opinion, not the opinion of the Americans, who climb like cockroaches everywhere.
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 26 May 2016 20: 33
            +2
            Denis. You can join or organize a party or social movement. In this case (land) to the Aul party and raise the topic in the media, etc. .. If it is really relevant (the topic) and you have a constructive proposal, then there will be supporters.
            In this case, the earth. As I see it, the authorities want to put the land into circulation (in a good way). So that you can put in a pledge in the bank, for example. This is a problem now. For land to become capital, as in developed countries, to bring income. This is not the case with us. But I don't like the actions of the authorities. They just get rid of the "problems", and not rebuild a sensible SYSTEM. We need a GOSZAKAZ (GOSZAKUP) and GIVE (by installments, sell inexpensively) land to the peasants. Of course, infrastructure is also needed (warehouses, refrigerators, conservation, processing, etc.) in which the state also needs to invest. After this whole SYSTEM starts working, the infrastructure can be sold (corporatized or something else) and money can be allocated only for government procurement (they are returnable, after the export of agricultural products). And after all, there is a suitable state structure - the PRODKORPORATION, which deals only with grain. Why not expand the field of activity of this organization, I do not understand. Okay, if there were no money (decent gold reserves). Therefore, there is a feeling that the authorities just want to throw off all the problems on private owners and tenants. Does that foreigner need it? Until they begin to "move" themselves, no one will raise our land for us. Therefore, this whole venture with renting to foreigners is nonsense. Was for rent and a hundred years - and where are these foreigners !?
            And if we take it to foreigners, then we must clearly state our GOSTs - which chemicals and how much, what fertilizers, etc. .. Who will monitor and regulate. And a hundred of all kinds of inspectors will only scare away those interested. And besides the Chinese, we must remember that there are Kyrgyz people (in that Dzhambul region how many Kyrgyz Dungans and Uighurs rent a few people know the land - and there are hundreds of them there), Uzbeks, Koreans (they are even interested), Turkmens, Russians (and everyone thinks only about the Chinese). If you competently approach, then those Chinese will get crumbs from the lease. And you can understand with an increase in terms. It is unlikely that anyone will build that fruit-canning plant or fruit and vegetable base, realizing that they can take it in 10 years. hi
  3. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 26 May 2016 06: 10
    +3
    I watched videos of protests in Kazakhstan. Opposition members have clearly complied with the TRP rules for running. This event could be called - Fun Starts laughing
    1. vmo
      vmo 26 May 2016 07: 39
      +1
      GOOD FELLOWS !!!!
    2. razmik72
      razmik72 26 May 2016 11: 16
      +1
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      I watched videos of protests in Kazakhstan. Opposition members have clearly complied with the TRP rules for running. This event could be called - Fun Starts laughing

      Exactly the same pictures and videos you, Alexander Romanov, laid out from the Yerevan "elektromaydan". Your beloved sergeant remained in power, who today gave the command to his controlled media to throw mud at Russia in order to ward off popular anger for the defeat in the four-day war. and you shouldn't even try to get them back, in this case soldiers may die. A logical question arises:
      "Wouldn't it have been better if the Armenian army had surrendered these positions without a fight, in which case no one would have died?"
      "President" - a defeatist led the country to collapse, Alexander, he also wants him to come out clean, so that anyone but him is to blame. You can put down the minuses, I am not writing to score points.
      1. Pancho
        Pancho 26 May 2016 20: 33
        +1
        Quote: razmik72
        your favorite sergeant

        Maybe you should calm down already? Did we, the Armenians, choose Sargsyan? If we (and Russians and in Soviet times in Armenia there were a couple of people, not like Armenians in Russia), then where were the Armenians at that time? Let me please, in Russia, where else?
  4. Naiman
    Naiman 26 May 2016 06: 14
    +9
    There are lures too, activists. They work out money. But ordinary people were also there, farmers came. The topic is painful. China does not like. dislike is. This is also connected with the oralmans who moved from China. Kazakhs, but the mentality is different. At first they were given privileges, and they gave land.

    In general, there is such a scenario of the capture of Kazakhstan by China, well, like stories:

    The first stage: 1 million hectares of arable land is leased to China. For 25-50 years. Moreover, good land, arable. On the cultivation of soy. The lands are for some reason located in East Kazakhstan (polymetals), Western Kazakhstan (oil and gas) and Northern Kazakhstan (virgin land)

    The second stage: 50 million Chinese are imported. Kazakhstanis - no more than 17 million.

    The third stage: well, here it’s clear, a company is created to create conflict situations. The attack of wild local Muslim barbarians on peaceful Chinese peasants. Tears, snot, world media, corpses, tortured children. Hundreds is enough.

    The fourth stage: the introduction of the military Chinese contingent. Holding a referendum. 50 against 17. By then, there will probably be more Chinese. 70 million against 17-18.

    Voila: China controls titanium, magnesium, zinc, lead, gold, silver, copper oil, gas, arable land in Kazakhstan.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 26 May 2016 06: 25
      +1
      Quote: Naiman

      Second stage: 50 million Chinese are imported

      Good grass is growing in Kazakhstan.
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 26 May 2016 06: 30
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Good grass is growing in Kazakhstan.

        Sasha, where it grows, there people didn’t go to rallies and so much fun laughing
        1. Humpty
          Humpty 26 May 2016 07: 07
          +1
          Quote: Serg65
          and so much fun

          Hi, they all filled the warehouses at the Tatti station with anasha, they don’t give anyone, even our grasshoppers. Zhadyugi. They say it’s not enough for you? Moreover, even before the pile for the right to legally acquire goods and services from all of Kazakhstan, for us - members of the EAEU we have introduced an official fee of at least 8000 tenge from a passenger car and for the same they bought , they are the same contributions.

          To meet the morning dawn, along Aspara, along Aspara.
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 26 May 2016 07: 30
            +2
            Quote: Humpty
            they packed all the warehouses at the Tatti station with Anasha, they don’t give anyone, even our grass-growers.

            hi Hi Sasha! Aspara is far away, on the way to the lower free economic zone weed in the height of a person and no one is around, only local donkeys eat and laugh not for an adult laughing
            Quote: Humpty
            introduced an official fee of at least 8000 tenge from a passenger car and for the export of the same purchased from them, too, the same fees to them.

            The most interesting thing about Sash is that Gazprom-Asia has started a crisis because of smuggled Kazakh gasoline! 30% of employees are sent on unpaid leave.
            1. Humpty
              Humpty 26 May 2016 08: 15
              0
              Quote: Serg65
              it’s that a crisis has begun in Gazprom-Asia because of smuggled Kazakh gasoline! 30% of employees are sent on unpaid leave.


              I almost always refuel at Gazprom. I try not to refuel with Shymkent fuel, because it’s near Dzhambul, it’s warm there.
              And they don’t even understand what smokers in the leadership of all Kazakhstan do.
              Comrade Stalin told Comrade Frunze - you have a good plan.
              It can be seen that the plans have gone wrong.
          2. Werterex
            Werterex 26 May 2016 07: 59
            +3
            I want the summer not to end! So that it rushed after me! Following me in Chu? wassat
        2. Werterex
          Werterex 26 May 2016 07: 58
          0
          Kazakhstanis have a good vaccination against any Maidan. It is called 1986.
      2. Amurets
        Amurets 26 May 2016 06: 56
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Good grass is growing in Kazakhstan.

        Well, yes. The famous Chui hemp.
        1. marshes
          marshes 26 May 2016 10: 39
          +2
          Quote: Amurets
          Well, yes. The famous Chui hemp.

          Yes, and you have in the Amur region. nothing.
    2. Werterex
      Werterex 26 May 2016 07: 56
      0
      Where does this information come from, dear? This theory is not new and not witty! I generally keep quiet about oralmans. There is such a lot of money that it’s scary to think. And where are the results? In addition to 3,5 million freeloaders who have never worked in Kazakstan, do not work and will not work. The country has been turned into a large "Green Bazaar". Koreans sell onions in Chingildahs at (think about it) 8-12 tenge per kg. In the bazaars, less than 100, you will not find. The same thing with meat. Dealers are mainly oralmans. There is no time for the Chinese. And the Chinese have not removed the Uyghur issue from the agenda. So this scenario is hardly possible.
      1. jjj
        jjj 26 May 2016 09: 00
        +1
        Once, understanding suddenly begins that sovereignty can be a very relative concept
  5. Lindon
    Lindon 26 May 2016 06: 34
    +7
    Let another devaluation be carried out and thousands come out.
    While the people were fed up and used the extra profit from the sale of oil - everyone forgave.
    And then the people became impoverished and remembered that the authorities had to rid the country of oil dependence.
    1. viktorrymar
      viktorrymar 26 May 2016 07: 38
      +2
      Will you personally come out? After another devaluation?
  6. Belich
    Belich 26 May 2016 06: 38
    +3
    in Shimkent, these creatures tried differently to provoke discontent - at night from May 20 to 21 they started to shoot everything. They burned a small market, standing right next to apartment buildings. Only our people are lazy, they simply beat them. They say that it’s like a rally tried to arrange, but there were no more than 50 people and their lawyers grazed like a herd of sheep. I myself don’t even have a clue in which region they rallied
    1. Andrey KZ
      Andrey KZ 26 May 2016 15: 43
      +1
      Quote: Belych
      20 on May 21 everyone started to shoot. The market was burned small,

      hi This is in 11 mikrash which? Our markets are burning even without rallies, I think a coincidence. On 21, it was quiet in Shymkent, the weekly fair was canceled, the reason was that the sellers did not have time to prepare the goods. In colleges and universities, classes were canceled; the sanitary and epidemiological station checked. The owners of some markets were reinsured, did not open, the Upper worked. Somewhere, someone saw a crowd of people, maybe just a wedding?
  7. viktorrymar
    viktorrymar 26 May 2016 06: 45
    +3
    Quote: Naiman
    In the millionth of Almaty - no more than 10 thousand people.

    There were no 10 000, I live in Alma-Ata myself, there were scattered groups that were not allowed to go to the square, some were packed, some were dispersed, there was no organization, it seems that the organizers were closed the day before,
    the authorities honestly warned the organizers on May 5th about the ban on rallies, then the prosecutor general made an explanation of the responsibility for unauthorized rallies.
    In addition, everyone was drunk and inadequate, I heard that they paid for coming to the square, found fittings, bottles with Molotov cocktails in the wells near the places planned for the rallies, firearms were seized in two apartments, in general, our boat was shipped from all sides.
    Riots were prepared in Kazakhstan according to the Ukrainian scenario. In their office, the organization’s members even kept the flag of Ukraine and various paraphernalia for distribution to protesters. In correspondence, activists called the people who would come to the square to advocate for a change in the Land Code, "cattle", "boobies" and "scumbags." Also, the “Abyroevites” prepared alcohol and weapons, which they wanted to distribute to the protesters, and then they were going to provoke a conflict. The Department of Internal Affairs of the West Kazakhstan region reports that Aidos Sadykov, a member of the nationalist organization "Right Sector", sent instructions to organize unrest to his like-minded people. http://www.ktk.kz/ru/news/video/2016/05/21/69528/
    1. redcod
      redcod 26 May 2016 07: 47
      +4
      What the hell are you talking about? You still say that in Zhanaozen homeless people were shot.
      1. razmik72
        razmik72 26 May 2016 09: 12
        +4
        Quote: redcod
        What the hell are you talking about? You still say that in Zhanaozen homeless people were shot.

        The authorities of the post-Soviet countries on this site have obvious trolls, on the Armenian side on this site an obvious troll is a user under the nickname Esti, you should not be offended by them.
        1. viktorrymar
          viktorrymar 26 May 2016 09: 41
          0
          The authorities of the post-Soviet countries on this site have obvious trolls, on the Armenian side on this site an obvious troll is a user under the nickname Esti, you should not be offended by them.


          Your comment to whom it is addressed, I hope you did not write me to the trolls? smile
          1. razmik72
            razmik72 26 May 2016 09: 59
            0
            Quote: viktorrymar
            The authorities of the post-Soviet countries on this site have obvious trolls, on the Armenian side on this site an obvious troll is a user under the nickname Esti, you should not be offended by them.


            Your comment to whom it is addressed, I hope you did not write me to the trolls? smile

            I signed my "compatriot" into trolls, performing here under the nickname Esti, I had no intention of offending you.
        2. Zymran
          Zymran 26 May 2016 10: 48
          +1
          Well here is not a troll, but an ordinary quilted jacket.
        3. HERMES
          HERMES 26 May 2016 19: 21
          0
          Quote: razmik72
          Quote: redcod
          What the hell are you talking about? You still say that in Zhanaozen homeless people were shot.

          The authorities of the post-Soviet countries on this site have obvious trolls, on the Armenian side on this site an obvious troll is a user under the nickname Esti, you should not be offended by them.


          ... in turn, from the Azerbaijani side, the representative of the troll community is a certain "HERMES" ... wink

          Well, you don’t like it so much ... I have the impression that with my “actions and manipulations” I contributed to a large extent to the “split” of the “Armenian lobby” on the site. As I don’t look at the comments ... this is how the Armenians are dogging each other , disown each other ... but where is "one for all, and all for one"? good
      2. viktorrymar
        viktorrymar 26 May 2016 09: 47
        -2
        redcod KZ Today, 07: 47 ↑ New
        What the hell are you talking about? You still say that in Zhanaozen homeless people were shot.


        Announce the shooting lists, please
    2. Werterex
      Werterex 26 May 2016 08: 01
      +1
      Absolutely syzyk! Do not rock the boat, it makes you sick! Even boring))))))
    3. romb
      romb 26 May 2016 13: 49
      +1
      What is this nonsense about: "Besides, everyone was drunk and inadequate ..."
      Have you watched the video? At least one detainee was seen in an inadequate condition?
    4. Andrey KZ
      Andrey KZ 26 May 2016 15: 46
      +2
      Quote: viktorrymar
      even kept the flag of Ukraine

      In fairness, a flag and a cache in the square, I think, a theatrical production.
      1. Zymran
        Zymran 26 May 2016 16: 30
        +1
        Quote: Andrey KZ
        In fairness, a flag and a cache in the square, I think, a theatrical production.


        More precisely, the rubbish setup. In a theatrical production, people are usually not put in real jail on far-fetched charges.
  8. Humpty
    Humpty 26 May 2016 06: 54
    -1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Members of the opposition, clearly complied with the rules of the TRP on the run.

    I’m interested in this. When, in the 86th internationalist who were torn away from business, they were brought to Alma-Ata even from the fraternal union republic to pacify the attempts of the Kazakh nationalist coup, the servicemen were without sticks, masks and helmets, and representatives of the indignant people beat them with stones and other harvested items on the head and among other things, some who remained disabled for life.
    Now the putschists in Kazakhstan are considered something like national heroes. And here in the video there are no stones, you don’t need vodka trucks for heating, it’s invisible that the police were hit with stones on the head. And the opposition is somehow few.
    When another 30 years have passed, then who will be included in the annals of the history of all of Kazakhstan these are still demonstrators.
    And a small request to forum users, in. lang began to forget. The dictionary in the computer does not help, please translate the word elbasy to German, please. And then the trouble, just like on the UN podium from Kazakh, this word does not translate.
    And then people will come soon and ask, because I need something to answer.
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 26 May 2016 07: 09
      +3
      Quote: Humpty
      And then people will come soon and ask me something because you need to answer

      Don’t worry, the Germans know very well how the leader of the nation sounds in their language :-)
    2. Gunxnumx
      Gunxnumx 26 May 2016 07: 37
      0
      Leader of the nation, if in Russian
    3. Werterex
      Werterex 26 May 2016 08: 03
      +3
      In Russian, the Head of the nation)))) In German, not the Fuhrer, EPT ....)))))) der Leiter der Nation
  9. viktorrymar
    viktorrymar 26 May 2016 07: 15
    +2
    Quote: Humpty
    The dictionary in the computer does not help, please translate the word elbasy to German please. And then the trouble, just like on the UN podium from Kazakh, this word does not translate.
    And then people will come soon and ask, because I need something to answer.

    Let’s first literally translate this word into Russian: EL is the country, Bass is the head, that is, Elbasy is the Head of the country, but since in the Kazakh language, as in Russian, the head is not only on the neck, but also on the Head, then it turns out the Head of the country, but you need to understand that there is also an untranslatable meaning of figurative expression, in the Kazakh understanding of Elbasy, it is also the spiritual leader and father of the nation.
    Sorry to be so long
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 26 May 2016 07: 54
      0
      Quote: viktorrymar
      Let's first literally translate this word into Russian:


      You seem to be German. And we must understand that if we translate this to German, Italian or other foreign Germans literally, then it may seem strange to them and load is not childish. And it is not desirable to "load" them - it is not profitable for yourself.
      A friend once mixed up mazar and tandoor from inattention, told the Germans that they baked bread there. They then thought for a long time.
      For some reason, it seems that SA-AG hinted at the most correct translation. Is it just necessary to put the prefix "kozachen"? Most likely, it is better to take them away from the topic, let them think for themselves.
      The word "vaterland" for the Germans of Germany has become unused, complex. And the word Fuhrer is applied to people of several professions, with and without prefixes. It concerns the direct supervisors of small events, short in terms of time and the number of participants, usually no more than 40 people.
      Closer to the topic, the term is limited only by nature, participating in the event 15-18 million. hi
  10. Ayujak
    Ayujak 26 May 2016 08: 07
    +2
    These punks are just a test of strength. Probing. Have spent, looked - people do not move. They will look for something else. The only thing they will rely on is the resignation of the Elbasy for some reason. At this moment, the whole performance will begin. The president's family will not be able to hold on to power after NASA leaves. And who will come? - that's the question. Many people know about the clan system of the Republic of Kazakhstan. There is a balance - a certain status quo, after the violation of which there will be seams. The clan system, I repeat, is when in any structure, be it a state or a commercial one, there are people who, to one degree or another, are connected with "families". "Families" are divided according to the power of influence and move their members in different structures to increase their influence. "Families" also enter into unions through their members' marriages and try to suppress other "families." People, don't be alarmed. It has always been traditionally in Kazakhstan and will always be. To one degree or another, this is everywhere (all over the world).
  11. kon125
    kon125 26 May 2016 08: 27
    +3
    Who is there from Atyrau? What is going on there? For me, Kazakhstanis will sort it out. Of course, the oil era is ending,
    It became hard. And the fears against the Chinese are still correct. I’m just ready to pray that everything will be calm in Kazakhstan. Will it be? I would like to know more, and of course here is a request to the Kazakhstanis. What to expect.
  12. darksoul
    darksoul 26 May 2016 08: 42
    +2
    The Kazakhs, and we have a good example, are running wild beside me, I think nobody wants this anymore, but a small bunch of aggressive Kharkov traitors who focus all their attention everywhere, the question is how the authorities react to it, well done, Nazarbayev, God grant him good health
  13. cokolkz
    cokolkz 26 May 2016 08: 44
    +4
    I am against the Maidans, there is nothing good in them. But here's what I thought about in the light of all these events: In France, similar events are taking place in parallel, they adopt not a popular labor law, but an unpopular land law in Kazakhstan. Rallies are taking place in France, but no one is talking about the "Maidan" and "coup". The people just express their opinion. When protesters break the law (they break windows, cars, etc.), the police punish them. That's all! Why is it impossible in Kazakhstan? Why didn't the authorities give sanctions for the rallies? Why escalate the situation? Well, people would come out, hold rallies (organized !!!), speak out, the authorities listen. At the same time, they would find out the real attitude of citizens to their lawmaking. without intimidation and preventive arrests, more than 30-50 people would have come out, many remembering December 2011 were afraid ... As for the marauders, then the police had to show themselves here. Then there will be democracy.
    1. Wild_grey_wolf
      Wild_grey_wolf 26 May 2016 08: 54
      +1
      In Kazakhstan i.e. Do you really believe that it sincerely came out with demands from the people?
      Those who want to make a difference. . .
      1. cokolkz
        cokolkz 26 May 2016 11: 20
        +4
        I want to say right away that I do not know why the American flag was displayed at my post, I am writing from Kazakhstan. I know that there is dissatisfaction among the people that all (or almost all) mines, wells, oil fields, etc. fields by any AO are de facto owned by foreigners (they have more than 51% everywhere). The exception to the large ones is Kashagan, but they have not been able to start production there for several years. LAND IS NOT SOLD OUT. I can’t say for sure about the agricultural lands and the sincerity of the protesters, but the NORMAL, ORGANIZED, AUTHORIZED rally would answer this question. If 50-100 people attended such a rally, then this would be one alignment, and if there were thousands, it would show that several officials violated the will of the people (the source of power under the Constitution!) And, to put it mildly, they are wrong. In the Republic of Kazakhstan, in general, a paradoxical situation is that a simple person can never express dissatisfaction with the actions of the authorities. Without sanctions, this is a violation of the Law, and the authorities do not give sanctions to criticize themselves! Now they have a new horror story - Maidan!
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 26 May 2016 17: 54
          +3
          Falcon All state. assets are concentrated in Samruk-Kazyna. If we talk about oil, then 33% belongs to the state-wu, over 20% of the PRC, and the rest to foreigners and our private owners. For example, your Kashagan example is wrong. The largest share of the country in Tengiz is 50% (2 participants, the second Chevron), in Karachaganak 10% (5 participants), in Kashagan 9% (4-6 participants) - these are the three largest. China had a larger share, but these deposits are all old and production there is declining.
          Well, if you don’t know, then five years ago a law was adopted that RK has the right to "distribute" the share of foreigners who want to leave the fields (from the country). For example, that Kashagan. An American company emerged from it (Konako Philips is the largest in the United States). So India provided the best conditions, but our authorities divided the package into two parts: half was given to the PRC, half from ours (about 9%). The PRC was given away because they made a "package offer" (gingerbread in the form of loans, etc.). And Konako Phillips couldn't argue. Or look at the assets of Samruk-Kazyna. There is Kazakhmys or Kazzinc - non-ferrous metal. And that uranium only with the approval of the government. And now to get into the bowels of foreigners - and what in return !?
          They overtaxed the authorities on May 21, what can I say. And there were not 10 people in Alma-Ata - that's for sure. More curious onlookers came to watch. The reason for the rallies is too clumsy: it was 000-50 years of lease and there was nothing for anyone. The amendments were reduced to 99 years, now interest has appeared and wanted to be made 10 years old - outraged have appeared. The NAS moratorium imposed all amendments to clarify the actions of the authorities. A clearly unhealthy situation that was most likely supported from outside. We will warn everyone that the authorities will sort it out harshly - and why then get there if they tie it (only video and photos for foreign media) !? Where used to be when it was 25 years old? Obviously money played a role from behind the hill. hi
    2. Midshipman
      Midshipman 26 May 2016 09: 00
      -1
      French rallies, unlike the CIS ones, are not pumped up with money and ideology - people really just express dissatisfaction.
      1. Wild_grey_wolf
        Wild_grey_wolf 26 May 2016 09: 41
        +1
        Quote: Midshipman
        French rallies, unlike the CIS ones, are not pumped up with money and ideology - people really just express dissatisfaction.


        I would not argue that in Europe there are simply utterances and there is no similar brainwashing and problems are used to achieve my own goals.

        Well, in my city of Kazakhstan, they brainwashed as you made an analogy to 30 people and they went for the loot. . . I would say that the city for the loot was not sold in such cases)))))

        And if dirty goals are achieved through bribery, it does not give honor to those who organize it, and if in Europe there are no such actions from Europe and Europe itself comes to the CONCLUSION that not everything is clean and rotten, and that the Russians do not achieve the GOALS in such a mean way.
      2. Alibekulu
        Alibekulu 26 May 2016 13: 45
        +8
        Maidan virus
        Nazarbayev: "Kazakhstanis do not want Ukrainian events in Kazakhstan, I know that"
        IMHA, on the whole I assess the rallies positively. There are no serious prerequisites for the Maidan, but the authorities must also remember about national interests. The people, through speeches, clearly marked the "red lines" that those in power should not cross, unless of course they want "to Rostov to grandmother."
        In general, the reaction of the authorities was excessively hysterical and, on the contrary, showed her vulnerable points. The reaction to the reaction was as follows - "and the devils were afraid, so you need it .."
        This also applies to essentially ridiculous videos from Channel One.
        Those. the leaders themselves have shown the most effective forms of influence on them. And in the future, in the event of ineffectiveness of economic policy and inability to respond to the "challenges of the time", their probability will multiply. It is simply the only effective channel of communication. As grit: "if it does not reach through the head, it will come through the butt."
        With regards to the dispersal of the May 21 rallies, it is only because they were known about them beforehand .. And in the case of spontaneity, as in the west of Kazakhstan, then ..
        And if you recall the story, then the Kazakhs already have a well-established tradition of popular uprisings. Recall Tselinograd-79 and Alma-Ata-86. In the 1 case, the decision to establish German autonomy was already canceled. In 2, they turned to face the solution of Kazakh problems - the elders noticed a contrast .. Although the price was prohibitively high ..
        Quote: Humpty
        in lang forgetting to become. The dictionary in the computer does not help, please translate the word Elbasy into German for me. And then the trouble, just like on the UN tribune from Kazakh, this word does not translate.
        And then people will come soon and ask me something because you need to answer
        What shal, did the Kyrgyz brothers catch up with you lol
        PS. Mode: "The land is the foundation of the state, you cannot give it away" soldier
  14. Mig-31
    Mig-31 26 May 2016 08: 51
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Naiman

    Second stage: 50 million Chinese are imported

    Good grass is growing in Kazakhstan.

    In your opinion, for 1 million gq how many Chinese will be delivered, pieces 10-20? For one hectare, at least 15 Chinese people will work here and multiply.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 26 May 2016 21: 58
      +3
      In the legislation no more than 30% of personnel from abroad, if there are no domestic specialists. And 10% if there is.
      The problem is overblown. Until we borrow the land ourselves, no foreigner with his money will come and "raise" our land for us. hi
  15. Humpty
    Humpty 26 May 2016 09: 11
    +2
    Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
    I hope all these incendiaries will return many times over, all that they do.

    The hope of young men .... But I also hope at least for 2x. 100 times, it's you from evil. Even in the Bible itself, the threat of punishment is only 7 times or 7 generations in advance.
    You seem to live on the Irtysh River, I don’t know about you, but my brothers don’t like the water level drop in the Irtysh River because of the Chinese taking it. It was expected that there would be little water in Ili this year, again because of the Chinese. But the powerful spring snowfalls, which still do not stop, can improve the matter.
    The Chinese are thus a kind of irritant for the people of your country.
    The aforementioned river Aspara, which flows from Kyrgyzstan to Kazakhstan, "you" with a clear conscience almost completely took away for yourself, so that the Kyrgyz in the fields downstream between the foothills and up to the Big Chui Canal (by the way, it also goes to Kazakhstan) all the fields dry up.
    Whether "you" are irritants, of course not you personally. And how much do you personally pay for the right to enter Russia by private car from Pavlodar. We, for the right to enter Kazakhstan, only officially as members of the EAEU, replenish the GDP of Kazakhstan in the amount of 8000 tenge at a time.
    1. Wild_grey_wolf
      Wild_grey_wolf 26 May 2016 09: 26
      +2
      Regarding water resources, this conversation is definitely not for me, I'm not an expert))),
      No fees are required for the right to enter the territory of the Russian Federation; ordinary insurance is required for 15 days, a month, 6 months, a year. . . everyone’s choice, without insurance at their own risk, without any fees to enter the territory, and have not heard about the fees from the Russians. If you are talking about insurance, I don’t remember 15 days but maybe 8 tenge.
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 26 May 2016 10: 06
        +1
        Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
        ))),


        To joke to reduce an unheard of rudeness, to which you personally have not the slightest relation - this is a departure from the answer. Alas.
        Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
        everyone’s choice, without insurance at their own risk, without any fees to enter the territory, and have not heard about the fees from the Russians. If you are talking about insurance, I don’t remember 15 days but maybe 8 tenge.

        It is about that. This business is not voluntary; it is a requisition which, in connection with the crisis, was immediately increased by 4 times. There will be no insurance - you will come home without underpants. Even worse, if only you get to the hospital, you will not only leave everything there, but also at the border because a heavy fine was imposed in the hospital.
        Insurance is at least 15 days, but only 5 days are allowed without registration, in fact it’s 5-6 hours less, it depends on the change at the Kazakh customs.
        There will be no first-aid kit with instructions in Kazakh, then you will get off with a fine, as you agree.
        We have a mess and hopelessness, but they don’t treat animals like that. For example, the Russians can easily send a helicopter with a brigade, even if he does not have any insurance. Honestly.
        In rare cases, when the word was not restrained, no one would hold back.
        A personal record of mocking harassment on the roads of Kazakhstan from the authorities 24 times per 850 km. This is a record, usually 6 times.
        1. Wild_grey_wolf
          Wild_grey_wolf 26 May 2016 10: 24
          +3
          Quote: To joke to reduce an unheard of rudeness to which you personally have not the slightest relation - this is a departure from the answer. Alas.

          Did I translate as a joke? . . . I can’t be a specialist in everything and why I will comment on something that is not a specialist. If you universally understand everything and distribute comments everywhere, this is your personal business.

          In our part of the border, I did not encounter such problems and WITHOUT LIMIT, everything is clearly organized, without rudeness. . . on the one hand, on the other. . . as you understand, communication is established and if there were such cases the whole city would know it. . .
          . . . You don’t translate it into horror at all. . . everywhere bad, louts, hospitals, devastation. . .
          1. Humpty
            Humpty 26 May 2016 11: 24
            0
            Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
            You universally understand everything and distribute comments everywhere; this is your personal business.

            Fortunately not. You can leaf through and check.
            Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
            as you understand, communication is established and if there were such cases the whole city would know it. . .

            In general, you don’t have a lot of things to know and discuss all the more. Although this is an unproven statement. IMHO.
            Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
            bad everywhere

            I really like the nature of Kazakhstan, semi-deserts. We don’t have that. But we don’t like the steppes, boredom and children on tricycles are found far from home, without parents.
            Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
            boors

            The World Cup has not yet been held, but at the expense of the application, if one can be thought of.
            Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf

            hospitals

            Dear, including that in order for the Gaster at home to give their ends, they did not spoil the indicators.
            Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
            devastation. .

            In Aksuek, yes, I wrote about this a long time and briefly. And in Alma-Ata - the metro, he wrote recently. wink
            1. Wild_grey_wolf
              Wild_grey_wolf 26 May 2016 12: 02
              +1
              . . . What you wrote applies to any part of the world. . . And to measure on a scale of something there, who has better or worse does not make sense. . . Time will teach how to get out of this situation without destroying the country and rewriting history.
        2. Dulat
          Dulat 26 May 2016 12: 23
          +2
          Unfortunately, we have a lot of such scum, 2/3 of the police profit using their position, and explains THIS CRISIS
  16. de_monSher
    de_monSher 26 May 2016 09: 27
    +7
    I hope the Kazakh brothers will solve this problem without shocks and excesses. Nursultan Abishevich is a wise man and politician. God grant you prosperity, neighbors ...
    1. Dulat
      Dulat 26 May 2016 12: 26
      +1
      THANK YOU!
  17. Arkan
    Arkan 26 May 2016 09: 49
    +1
    Maidan virus in Kazakhstan spreads through the Land Code?


    The reason is found and it will be untwisted as much as possible. I would like to wish the people of Kazakhstan to be wiser and more consistent. Adversity will pass, and the country will be gone, but there will be territories destroyed by the war, there are plenty of examples. Oil rose above 50 bucks a barrel.
    1. Dulat
      Dulat 26 May 2016 12: 31
      +4
      Obviously nobody wants the Maidan, about the land code it’s a little bad to cancel something?
      I immediately became worried when the Chinese began to arrive. Earth is the last thing that people have left. Moreover, if the Chinese come and go, then the earth will already be dead.
  18. Evgen2x
    Evgen2x 26 May 2016 09: 52
    +6
    Even I was sad again over Joseph Vissarionovich what
  19. iliya87
    iliya87 26 May 2016 12: 53
    0
    Nazarbayev needs to cancel this bill, but those who went to the rally in an rally to drive away to these hives, shovels in their hands and put / dig and people at work and money in the treasury.
  20. Cossack Ermak
    Cossack Ermak 26 May 2016 13: 59
    +4
    Somehow about 7 years ago I came to Alma-Ata for a conference. Building matters, but that’s not the point. It so happened that at the hotel I met girls Kazakh women. The girls are sociable, walked, had fun. One evening I go to their room. The laptop is shutting down, leaflets are hiding, conversations immediately subside. I say what's the matter? They are silent. Then one speaks. Come on tell him. All the same, we are not a competitor. Russian.
    It turns out that the girls have been living for 5 years already working out foreign grants. Money from 10 to 30 thousand green. Sometimes for an event, sometimes for a year. They have some kind of insider. Information about upcoming grants is merged to them. They are working on it. What surprised me. Girls absolutely don't care what they get paid for. They come from the fight for human rights, ecology to hell knows what. If only after the "event" they had money. They have a lot of such "grant suckers" in Kazakhstan, as it turned out when they talked about their competitors. from Soros to the Arab countries. They take on everything. As a result, donors have a well-established network of donors, without any signs of morality and highly professional. Working not a single year.
    So this "Maidan" is not surprised. I think "my girls" are involved there.
    1. marshes
      marshes 26 May 2016 15: 02
      +3
      Quote: Cossack Ermak
      Girls absolutely on the drum for what to get money.

      Last year, on the Shymkent-Almaty train, I met quite interesting citizens in a compartment. One lawyer is another press worker, they recognized each other by communication on Facebook. In the heat of the conversation, they got so excited that they began to hand over "turnouts and passwords" laughing, who from what fund "feeds" and where "fatter". That's it. On arrival it was possible to "pack warm". smile
  21. romb
    romb 26 May 2016 14: 36
    +7
    Now the political and financial leadership of the CIS countries has become fashionable, to explain any conflict of a social nature between the government and society, explain the machinations of external enemies. Type: it’s not we who are the goats, but someone, there, it’s not good, stirs up behind us, wants to bring grief and misfortune to our country. In fact, everything is simpler if the government fulfilled its obligations to the people, and if it didn’t commit the rash actions that these people would take very negatively, you see, then you won’t have to come up with various kinds of senile conspiracy theories. In Kazakhstan, few people believe that people who came out to express their disagreement with the president’s decision fulfilled some kind of secret desire of a third party to destabilize the situation in the country. The real truth is that in Kazakhstan, the government itself acted as a destructive element. And it wasn’t smelled of any revolutions paid by various State Departments.
  22. Backfire
    Backfire 26 May 2016 15: 47
    0
    I hope Nazarbayev will not allow a repeat of events according to the Ukrainian version, and will be able to roll out his entire fifth column into a thin pancake. winked
  23. sl3
    sl3 26 May 2016 16: 30
    0
    In the bud, it is imperative to suppress all lawmaking, and all activists in uranium mines, in respect of Nursultan Nazarbayev, respect, health and long life.
  24. ig1972or
    ig1972or 26 May 2016 18: 38
    +1
    I’m from Semipalatinsk. We didn’t have any thousands of protesters. Everyone works or in summer cottages.
  25. Semurg
    Semurg 26 May 2016 18: 51
    +6
    The people who went to the unauthorized rallies did what most Kazakhs thought, that rent for 25 years by foreigners is the first step to selling it, the authorities launched a test balloon, whether or not it didn't work, the cauldron of discontent with the authorities began to boil. The chef quickly realized this and let off steam, imposed a marotorium on a change in the land code and created a conciliation commission. True, the slogan "shal ket" sounded and hangs in the air and a couple of some stupid decisions of the authorities and this slogan will start to support the majority of Kazakhs and then the National Academy of Sciences will have to go to visit Akayev or Yanukovych.
  26. kon125
    kon125 26 May 2016 23: 30
    +4
    Kazakhstanis, take care of Kazakhstan, I always admired that we managed to survive the dashing 90s, to save the republic. We in Russia want everything to be good, peaceful, prosper in Kazakhstan. I come from Guryev, when I left, there’s no offense, because I know that they will accept me at any moment as the Kazakhs know how to do it. My mother was saved from hunger by the Kazakhs by friends of my grandmother in the war who took the children to the steppe and they got up on milk. I grew up in a city where all nations happily lived .. my Mom taught literature and the Russian language and Russian, and Kazakhs, and Koreans, and Germans, and Ukrainians and all nations ..
    This is a sunny republic and a kind, close to us in spirit, a little gouging attitude to money, a life of people who will share the last piece with the guest.
    Sorry for sentimentality .. do not count for pathos. But may the Lord protect this land, and all the nations that inhabit it.
    1. Crucian
      Crucian 27 May 2016 10: 53
      +3
      Thanks for the good memories of Kazakhstan and sincere wishes! Greetings from Atyrau (Guryev))))!

      And on the topic .. The article correctly noted that Nursultan Abishevich, this is not Viktor Fedorovich, this will not work with him. There was no unauthorized rally on May 21 in Atyrau-Guryev, they simply did not allow it, quietly, without incidents. The "protesters" poked around three points of the city in an attempt to hold a meeting, but somehow it did not work out))) And rightly so, because there is nothing to muddy the waters!