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Hyena and Jackal vs. Bear Union

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President Poroshenko 23 May made a regular visit to Turkey. Although Poroshenko officially arrived in Istanbul to attend the UN World Humanitarian Summit, he also met with Turkish President Erdogan. It is clear that one does not interfere absolutely.




I would also like to note that Poroshenko included such famous humanities figures as Mustafa Dzhemilev, Lenur Islyamov and singer Jamal in his delegation. I don’t understand how this trinity has anything to do with the UN humanitarian forum, to be honest.

Apparently, this is a consequence of the recent statement by Poroshenko that he is a Crimean Tatar.

God bless him, with the humanitarian summit, held and held. Although she was amused by Merkel, who clearly did not understand her role at the summit. More leaders of the developed world at the summit was not observed. But this is understandable, except for Merkel hardly anyone in Europe is so dependent on the actions of Erdogan in terms of "refugees." I would try not to come ...

But we are more interested in what went beyond the summit. And interesting things were happening.

According to the press service of the Ukrainian president, during a meeting with Erdogan, an agreement was reached that in the near future three thousand policemen from the “Square” will be trained in Turkey. Poroshenko noted that this is “a very effective form of cooperation between the police of the two countries,” and stressed that within the training program “Train and equip”, the police will be provided with appropriate equipment.

What a joy! What is Peremoga! Again, a freebie broke off! Not only will the Ukrainian colleagues be trained by the Turkish colleagues, but also the second-hand equipment will be thrown. Yes, no wonder Poroshenko Erdogan kissed, for good reason.

Well, the police in Turkey is a real force. Which, as events show, is able to suppress any manifestations of dissent in the country. Here, the alliance of Poroshenko and Erdogan is clear. Expressing your opinion with special effects is a strong point of the Ukrainian people. Given that things are developing in Ukraine in such a way that another Maidan is quite possible, Poroshenko’s desire to protect himself as much as possible from the fate of Yanukovych is understandable.

And there, you see, you can go from the police to the army. That Poroshenko is also quite on hand.

By the way, 16 in May Ankara and Kiev signed a plan of military cooperation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Republic of Turkey, “containing practical steps aimed at increasing the operational capabilities” of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The plan defines the directions of military cooperation between the armed forces of the two countries up to 2020, including reform and defense planning, education and training of troops, advisory and advisory assistance, cooperation between the types of armed forces, and so on.

“And so on” - in Ukrainian, it sounds like “give us something unnecessary, but free”. Just because the Ukrainian army needs everything. And there is no money. Well, not at all. And you need everything.

And good Turkish (brothers?) Gentlemen served. Not very active, but served. Here, for example, the Ukrainian-Turkish naval exercises in the Sea of ​​Marmara that are high-profile in Ukraine but actually overlooked in our country.

"Since the spring of 2014, the Ukrainian Navy has demonstrated for the first time the national flag of Ukraine in the open sea beyond the Black Sea." Wow!

But since when has the Sea of ​​Marmara been a sea? Forgive me, this is a gut, on the one hand, the Bosphorus with the Black Sea, on the other, the Dardanelles and the Aegean. 280 to 80 kilometers ... Sea ...

Well, okay, but what was there to maneuver? Here the order is complete. Turkey was represented by a Turkish frigate. One. And from Ukraine? That's right, "Hetman Sagaidachny"! There is no one else ...

But no. From the Ukrainian side as many as two boats sailed. The demagnetization vessel “Balta” was still hanging there. What is it trying to demagnetize, it is not clear at all. As well as the attempts of "Saigak Dachnoy" for some kind of interaction with a warship and coastal aviation. But not for training, these troughs sailed to Turkey. Maneuvers are like that ... an excuse. Moreover, the latitude with which they were held testifies very clearly to this. Already a whole frigate Turkey forked out.

The only problem is that, having avoided almost two dozen different media, I could not find out the name of this frigate. Simple and tasteful - Turkish frigate. Point.

I think that there was no Turkish frigate. And there was no exercise. Totally. And it was quite another matter.

From the composition of the highly powerful Ukrainian Navy, two troughs were taken, which could actually reach Turkey and back. Here you have the answer to the question that “Balta” has forgotten there. Just a sturdy ship, Soviet-built. It could.

And they did not maneuver with anyone and did not practice anything. And they calmly slapped the port and fulfilled the loading of what the Turkish Defense Ministry allocated to the Ukrainian colleagues "for poverty". Used and decommissioned uniforms, body armor, equipment, tents, sleeping bags. For a decent amount of 810 thousand US dollars. Nothing like that, with the world on a thread ...

In general, relations between Turkey and Ukraine are right on the candy and chocolate peak. Premieres and presidents ride like to their dacha, to their neighbors. There is much talk about military cooperation and the free trade zone.

But this is still a word. In fact, a friendship built on the presence of a common enemy in the person of Russia can hardly be the guarantor of some kind of global success. Who rushed to "be friends" against Russia? Two frank political loser, if not worse.

Europe from Erdogan already sick. Europeans can be understood because the tactics of political blackmail with streams of "refugees" can get anyone. That will be called into question the agreement on the exchange of migrants, and the introduction of a visa-free regime with 1 June, as it was stated earlier, was postponed indefinitely. By the way, as in the Ukrainian case.

The US administration is already cool about Erdogan. In addition, he has long ruined relations with most of the countries of the Middle East, and now also with Russia ...

So two pair of boots. For Erdogan, it is important to find at least one country against the general background, with which one can demonstratively develop cooperation and talk about positive things. You can not develop, but you need to talk. Ukraine became such a country. In which both external and internal problems are more than enough. But unlike Turkey, Ukraine is in a deeper ... crisis. And because it is ready to "make friends" for handouts.

All these "offended" at Russia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Ukraine, and now Turkey, are really trying to create a kind of union among themselves. But, I note, none of these states is in the stage of a certain recovery. Rather the opposite. Turkey, like Ukraine, is on the verge of losing control over part of its territory. Because the confrontation with the Kurds, despite all the attempts, the Turks really lose. The same is true in Ukraine and the Donbas. Well, Georgia could have lost it already. More is not worth it.

Therefore, I do not think that the friendship between Turkey and Ukraine is a danger to Russia.

Yes, you can not discount the "Crimean card". The fact that Turkey is trying to take control of the Crimean Tatar population has long been known. But: it is known for a long time ...

Everything connected with the Crimean Tatars should have been started earlier. Here, they say, missed the moment. Both Ukraine and Turkey. Map of the Majlis bit long. Maps of Dzhemilev and Islyamov too.

All that remains of this gang of losers is to whip out anti-Russian sentiments outside and try to grab at least something for yourself under this flag. Both politically and economically. Can it strain Russia? Can annoy, pose a threat - no.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 26 May 2016 06: 16
    +4
    You can be friends against someone. But the payback may be great, and not just for the budget.
    1. vodolaz
      vodolaz 26 May 2016 10: 21
      +5
      To be friends against someone does not mean at all being friends. Although the psychiatric hospital is crying for both of them: I am a fan of Russian aggression, and for the other it seems that he will create a new Ottoman Empire.
      1. iConst
        iConst 26 May 2016 15: 20
        +3
        Quote: vodolaz
        To be friends against someone does not mean at all being friends.

        - Cool.

        But I do not agree with the title of the article: hyenas are uniquely Polish figures. The definition of a jackal does not fit Petya, rather a boar.

        Something like that. smile
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 26 May 2016 17: 41
          +1
          Quote: iConst
          rather a boar.

          More like a hog.
  2. Runx135
    Runx135 26 May 2016 06: 39
    +6
    Well, with Parasha everything is clear, he has no other way in politics. And where is Perdogan, he still seems to be hoping for normalization, and for this he even replaced the prime minister.
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 May 2016 07: 16
    +8
    Two political issues ... on the arrow! laughing A loop is crying on both! angry
    1. Mikado
      Mikado 26 May 2016 17: 08
      +1
      Wonderful folk poems seem to fit the definition of this meeting:

      Two friends met at the station,
      Apparently, did not see each other for a long time ...
      Hugged for a long time ... kissed ...
      Until ..y I got up at one! laughing

      and more:

      On foam mattresses
      Lying in the arms of Barmalei.
      Not because it's warmer
      But because 3,14 darasy.

      Fuck on them. Let them kiss each other in intimate places. I think both will answer for everything.
  4. bocsman
    bocsman 26 May 2016 07: 45
    +5
    The jackal is heaped, but late, the bear licked the wounds and can now open the skull to any predator with one paw strike, and even more so for these scavengers!
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 26 May 2016 07: 48
    +7
    And Turkey is now not very good with the economy, let alone Maidania and not even worth talking about. Closer, Russophobes. So what? I can do it, Petya. And then the GDP "bonbu" tossed. Savchenko is nicknamed. At 40 megatons, no less. I listened to her speech ... If I were Petit, I would quickly send her to ... Zimbabwe. And yesterday. Or I would have drunk, slipping a "garny boy" with an unlimited card.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 26 May 2016 17: 43
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      In the place of Petit, I would quickly be her ambassador to ...Zimbabwe sent.

      To Honduras lol
  6. qwert111
    qwert111 26 May 2016 08: 33
    +6
    In the photo, as in a song: "Two funny geese lived with a granny" But granny Europe, still did not fully realize that both geese had spanking!
  7. aba
    aba 26 May 2016 08: 54
    +2
    For example, the sensational in Ukraine but virtually unnoticed by us Ukrainian-Turkish naval exercises in the Sea of ​​Marmara.

    It is necessary to read in LJ Evil_Odessit that he sprinkled there on this subject. He loves this business: to brag about exaggerations, no matter what happens, he only has an exaggeration.
  8. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 26 May 2016 09: 10
    +2
    For example, the sensational in Ukraine but virtually unnoticed by us Ukrainian-Turkish naval exercises in the Sea of ​​Marmara.
    Well, it's right that something unnoticed, there is nothing to notice here. Continuous PR. When the Chinese and I jointly maneuvered in the Mediterranean, here at the forum there was also a noise that “Now, now, we will break everyone, friendship is forever, now we will drive NATO together and so on. "The ships returned to the bases, China withdrew from military assistance to Assad and did not support Russia in Crimea. He just licked his lips, having estimated how many goodies he would get from the isolation of Russia and its forced so-called. "pivot to the East".
    Demonstration of the combat capabilities of "Sagaidachny" under the cover of the Turkish fleet will certainly not spoil our holiday. It is possible that he really wandered to Turkey like "shuttles" to Turkey dangle --- returning home with tightly stuffed checkered bags with zippers wassat But the Ukrainians can deploy coastal-based radar posts like in Georgia and start transmitting a "picture" of NATO.
    Now, if Ukraine and Turkey conducted a joint training landfall, then YES!, There would be a topic for a good feuilleton wassat And so the usual visit of the ship, the state furnished it in the most favorable light for itself, the journalistic fraternity "expanded and deepened", well, it started laughing
  9. Knizhnik
    Knizhnik 26 May 2016 09: 17
    0
    All these "offended" at Russia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Ukraine


    How did Azerbaijan get to the list of offended? Three days how the two countries exchanged statements on strategic cooperation, eh, the author?
    1. razmik72
      razmik72 26 May 2016 13: 49
      0
      Quote: Knizhnik
      All these "offended" at Russia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Ukraine


      How did Azerbaijan get to the list of offended? Three days how the two countries exchanged statements on strategic cooperation, eh, the author?

      Knizhnik, I wanted to give you a plus, but I write on my mobile and made a mistake by posting a minus. I corrected my mistake on the lower branch, and about the level of analytics in this article, you can get your opinion right away just by reading the heading of the article.
  10. cap
    cap 26 May 2016 09: 24
    +3
    Now, if Ukraine and Turkey conducted a joint training landfall, then YES!, There would be a topic for a good feuilleton wassat

    Guaranteed to mock.
    Ukraine and Turkey friendship forever.This is a joke. History was not taught at school.
    writingwriting
    1. Knizhnik
      Knizhnik 26 May 2016 09: 46
      +1
      As soon as Crimea became Russian, Erdogan showed Putin an interest in the fate of the Crimean Tatars. Putin replied that everything would be a yaksha, and did as he said. This is where it ended, this is the real policy. Today's attempt to chew already digested is nothing more than market opportunism.
  11. Evgen2x
    Evgen2x 26 May 2016 09: 47
    +5
    Well, let's say not a hyena and a jackal, but a goat and a pig)
    1. excomandante
      excomandante 26 May 2016 10: 35
      +1
      rather - the union of worms and maggots)))
  12. misterwulf
    misterwulf 26 May 2016 11: 18
    +1
    Brothers-homosexuals were 3 years late with such a "blue moon". By the way, frigate "One" is an incorrect translation. Odin = Wotan is the German-Scandinavian supreme God. Only Turkish Wotan has nothing to do with these Germanic deities.
    Wotan's translator translated as Odin. laughing
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    But the police (like the BRM) say, it’s pointless to train someone else’s police. They will not be able to teach them anything good or bad. Only complete degradation.
    The professionalism of the police depends on the power system in the country and on the strength of this power. And from the attitude of this power to the police.
    Yanukovych was a weak leader and no police would help him. Even from Mars.
    Poroshenko, in general, no one and call him nothing. It is much worse than with Yanukovych.
    Who do they want to teach and why? Or write off the next loot as "NATO's help" and steal?
  13. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 26 May 2016 11: 22
    +1
    the whole point of the article in the title .......... there is nothing to add ...
  14. unsinkable
    unsinkable 26 May 2016 13: 15
    +1
    The only contentious issue between them is who is the jackal and who is the hyena. They don’t understand what’s more honorable. Although both titles are true for everyone.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 26 May 2016 14: 10
      +2
      Quote: unsinkable
      The only contentious issue between them is who is the jackal and who is the hyena. They don’t understand what’s more honorable. Although both titles are true for everyone.

      They are hybrids - from mixing a hyena with a jackal.
  15. xoma58
    xoma58 26 May 2016 16: 16
    +2
    I don’t know which of them is a hyena who was a jackal, but the fact that one of them is a pig is for sure.
  16. tiaman.76
    tiaman.76 26 May 2016 19: 11
    +1
    Well, this Poroshenko .. fuck with these Turks .. for centuries they went against us and got lyuley .. and this Slav Paskuda demon is ready to give his soul .. but the truth is, and not a Slav is a cake manager
  17. Litsvin
    Litsvin 26 May 2016 20: 43
    +1
    From the union of "hyena and jackal", acting meanly from an ambush against a bear, nothing good will come ........................ for "hyena" and "jackal "!!!. They will simply be "nailed to the ground" by a bunch of crap put by Mishka on this very "ambush". smile smile smile
    In general, the union of the Jew Waltzman with the right-wing Muslim Erdogan is something new. As far as it is known, "Allahu Akbar" prohibits this.
    1. Weyland
      Weyland 26 May 2016 21: 27
      +1
      Quote: Litsvin
      In general, the union of the Jew Waltzman with the right-wing Muslim Erdogan is something new


      Hello ... Read about the Arab conquest of Spain (711-718)!
      Spaniards of the Arabs kicked out almost 800 years - IISHA, as soon as they kicked out, almost immediately (after only 3 months) they remembered who helped them ... https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D0%B7% D0% B3% D0% BD% D0% B0% D0% BD% D0% B8% D0% B5_%

      D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B5%D0%B2_%D0%B8%D0%B7_%D0%98%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BD%

      D0% B8% D0% B8
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  18. Belousov
    Belousov 27 May 2016 07: 06
    0
    They have seams in the economy, but only here, too, it’s not smeared with honey. Damn them, these little mongrels, you shouldn’t even write about them. But it’s worth working on your problems.
  19. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 27 May 2016 09: 03
    0
    Worn with the Crimean Tatars, as with a written bag. As if they were sleeping and seeing how to repulse Crimea by force. What for? Well, there are a bunch of marginals, but where are they not? Seriously warn once, and cut into the teeth, that is, if not heed. I have nothing against the Crimean Tatars (most of them are full of Tatars friends, though they do not differ from the Slavs in any way), but if they do any harm, it will be severely punished. And essno stop admitting to the territory of Crimea all sorts of Turks and others like them.
  20. Litsvin
    Litsvin 28 May 2016 21: 48
    0
    Quote: Volzhanin
    Worn with the Crimean Tatars, as with a written bag. As if they were sleeping and seeing how to repulse Crimea by force. What for? Well, there are a bunch of marginals, but where are they not? Seriously warn once, and cut into the teeth, that is, if not heed. I have nothing against the Crimean Tatars (most of them are full of Tatars friends, though they do not differ from the Slavs in any way), but if they do any harm, it will be severely punished. And essno stop admitting to the territory of Crimea all sorts of Turks and others like them.

    It is because of such half-measures that all troubles begin - today you cannot extinguish the fire, leave one spark, and tomorrow it will smolder and flare up again. Not with you, but with your children or grandchildren. Any "national question" must be resolved when the state is strong and feels that it can finally solve it. This saves many interethnic troubles in the future. Nicolo Machiavelli wrote about this. It is impossible to flirt with the so-called "Crimean Tatars". Why "so-called"? Because such a nation / ethnos as "Crimean Tatars" does not exist in nature from the point of view of the science of ethnogenesis and ethnogeography. This is a motley crowd gathered from different mixed ethnic groups, from the Polovtsians and Pechenegs who were not cut once, to the Turks. They have always been and will be for the Slavs not just others - they are strangers. It is enough from history to recall all the troubles that these "temporary residents of Crimea" brought us to the Slavs. How they tried to roam our Lithuanians-Belarusians around the territory of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania (and were beaten by Olgerd under the banner of "Pagoni"), how they plundered and ruined Eastern Russia, how many Slavic people they killed in slave markets, which they did during the Great Patriotic War ... Therefore, the fact that the wife of the traitor Gorbachev returned her relatives to the Crimea is wrong. There is a better place for them - they do not want to go to Siberia, let them go to their "patrons, close in faith" - to Turkey. There they belong. And there is no need for the liberal stench about "human rights". They lost the rights of a man by trading in Slavic slaves and torturing the Soviet defenders of the Motherland. AND THE POINT !!! Crimea is Russia, inherited by the Slavs from the Great Greeks, there we were baptized into the faith of Christ, there is our cradle. “We ask the rest to come out,” especially those who have shown obvious aggression towards us throughout history. God, when he divided people into nations, gave each nation its own piece of land, there on its own land, each nation should sit ... stop