"Antonov" management: "In Russia," only the Sukhoi Design Bureau remained afloat, and we retained all our intellectual potential "

Despite the fact that the Ukrainian aircraft manufacturing company Antonov, as a whole, de jure ceased to exist, its leadership continues to assert that this is a “new milestone in the development of the Ukrainian aircraft manufacturing industry.” Such a statement in an interview UNIAN made the vice president of the company Alexander Kotsyuba. According to him, Ukraine is changing the strategy of its presence in the aircraft manufacturing market and is moving to “aggressive marketing” (this is the term that Mr. Korzyuba personally used).

All the rest of his statement on the Ukrainian aircraft industry, apparently, should be linked precisely with the campaign for "aggressive marketing." So Kotsyuba announced that “the world has not produced anything more perfect than“ Ruslan ”and“ Mriya ”.

"Antonov":

Our "Mriya" has not left for the third week news releases around the world. The plane is solemnly greeted in Europe, Asia, Australia, and the Middle East.

From the statement Kotsyuby:

We can offer our customers transport aircraft with a payload from 2,5 t to 250 t, regional passenger planes in a niche to 100 seats and special-purpose aircraft. From the "new products" - An-132, light cargo, very promising aircraft, which we are creating with partners from Saudi Arabia.

At the same time Kotsyuba announced that “Antonov” continues to develop after the break of ties with Russia. But, according to Kotsyuba, the Russian aircraft building industry "is in decline":

In the same Russia, only the Sukhoi Design Bureau remained “afloat” - thanks to, basically, the military-technical segment. We, in spite of everything, have retained all the intellectual potential, the company employs about 13 thousand people.

The interview with Mr. Kotsyuba looks more like a strange advertisement of an enterprise, which is sawn by the authorities of Ukraine under the guise of "strategic development of the industry".

Comments

[Smoked]

Make a bite of cotton! Type.

[Wiruz]

Maybe I don’t know something, but what, the NATO partners have already stood in line for Antonov’s planes ?!
Or maybe all the EU civil aviation is burning a desire to transfer to them ?!

[33 Watcher]

Quote: Wiruz

Maybe I don’t know something, but what, the NATO partners have already stood in line for Antonov’s planes ?!
Or maybe all the EU civil aviation is burning a desire to transfer to them ?!

Even if "lights up" I would like to see how they deploy the release of a series, 20 cars a year, at least.
Well "new concept" ...
I know what Antonov is doing now - repairing the Mongols (24, 26). This is what I once did at the Irkutsk 403 GA. Development, however ...
What comes next?
But there was a time when we at our (deceased) plant at the Ukrainian Antonov, looked like a god. It seemed to us that they can do everything. And now they, just like we used to be, picking holey cattle trucks, so as not to bend completely. More Hammers are repairing. Shame ..!

[Nicholas C.]

Look dumb and illiterate for the Ukrainian official is not a loss of face, but a special Svidomo valor. Russia last year released 140 combat aircraft (more than US), 280 helicopters, produced and civilian aircraft: SSJ-100, etc.

Ukraine had to honestly decommunize the Soviet "Mriya", and not pass it off as its own fraudulent way. Ukraine cannot even make a new car - even the bodies are already bursting. Who will conclude an agreement with Ukraine for the supply of an aircraft in such circumstances? And how much do you need to pay those brave fools who agree to board a Ukrainian plane for flight?

[Darkmor]

We can offer the customer transport aircraft

Damn, why are all these (ukro) officials such verbiage. Give you numbers, and verbiage will not be necessary.
Tell me how many AN aircraft were produced, how much there is a state order, how much there is an export order. And that’s all ...
But no, they start the usual hurdy-gurdy, "We are all right, and the rash will soon be bent"

Our "Mriya" for the third week does not leave news releases around the world.

And MRIA, so this is generally a joke - it is not yours, it is ours, a common one. And they did it for the Buran space program, and not as a transporter for lard in the EU. However, what's the difference - you still can’t make a new one - so let the old one fly at least. And you take pictures, take pictures - while there is an opportunity.

“Afloat” was left only by Sukhoi Design Bureau

That’s what’s with it, and Russia shouldn’t have problems with aviation - both civilian and military. Another thing is that these problems are often created artificially, but this is another topic.
My dear great Ukrainians - look at the world map, and at Russia. In the presence of such a territory and 150 million people there will always be an internal market for civil aviation. IS ALWAYS!
In the 90s, we safely .. lost this market in favor of Boeing and Airbuses, which joyfully crushed it for themselves. Now we need to return it (thanks to the sanctions) - and there will be carcasses, and Sushki, and Ila, and Yaki safely plow the expanses of the universe.

And you, Ukrainians, why aviation? Fly to the EU to earn money? Who will provide your orders for aircraft? Will Boeing give you its segment of the civil aviation market? Your state will provide a state order (oh do not tell, live hunting).

I have no idea how, in theory, you can get NA out of your ass. Nobody needs him. Even you, ukram, do not need it - you use it only as a symbol, and not as an aircraft manufacturing enterprise. And the symbol does not need to produce anything - it is enough for him to stand in alcohol for long-term storage with a sign "She is not dead."

[fzr1000]

Yes, our officials are not much better in terms of verbiage.

[dmi.pris1]

Yes, and in those airlines where they had a hand, things were no better .. The Saratov plant was liquidated, now they are only making tactical missiles in Smolensk, in Voronezh there is a single unit for the government detachment .. In some ways, the right-military segment patrolman works, the civilian in the pen. . It is necessary to legally support airlines operating domestic aircraft.

Quote: fzr1000

Yes, our officials are not much better in terms of verbiage.

[Dryulea]

And at the Smolensk aircraft factory, they always made rockets. And the Yak-40 assembled just a few pieces, one of which stands not far from the plant

[Simple]

Turks, there Bashibuzuki elbows pushing against Antonov.
For a year, I think everything will be taken to my place.

[Transport]

Their bulge will burst across from such volumes of realization.

[APASUS]

Quote: Wiruz

Maybe I don’t know something, but what, the NATO partners have already stood in line for Antonov’s planes ?!
Or maybe all the EU civil aviation is burning a desire to transfer to them ?!

No, just a man in the morning didn’t eat well ...........

[mikhail065]

And you did not know that hohloglists are very big dreamers? )))

[cniza]

At the same time Kotsyuba announced that “Antonov” continues to develop after the break of ties with Russia. But, according to Kotsyuba, the Russian aircraft building industry "is in decline":

Time will soon show who is in decline and who is fine ...

[Aryan]

Well, they built the largest diesel locomotive ... and sho?

[kenig1]

And who built it, Ukraine?

[ASG7]

In general, what does Mr. Kotsyuba have to do with the production of Antonov's aircraft? How many of them did he produce?

[boris-1230]

And who built it, Ukraine?

ukradina stood on the edge. "Mriya" was built in the USSR, components came from all over the Union - a one-piece copy, designed for a specific task. ukradina cannot even build a chassis for it on its own - the potential is not the same! But ambition! They can only measure themselves with "pussy" ...

[Felix]

Quote: boris-1230

The only thing they can do is measure up with "pussy" ..

Yeah. Strangers.

[Oml]

Quote: kenig1

And who built it, Ukraine?

And as usual with the offended "But in Russia that."

[gray smeet]

Quote: Aryan

Well, they built the largest diesel locomotive ... and sho?

Salovoz - are you talking about Mriya? Or what? For "MRIYA-Salovoz" from me "-"

[Aryan]

in the photo in the article what? mriya?
her! in the picture of the diesel

[erlikon]

Well put Mriyu built not only in Kiev. The wing was made in Tashkent. And all of them were built 2pcs. And they didn’t even assemble the third wing. Then, thanks to Gorbachev, we cut the finished wing parts for scrap!

[Transport]

not they built it, but the USSR. They only collected cream ... and then managed to steal such a project.

[Resident007]

another peremoga ... they will soon, for example, sew the flag of their country with the size of ten football fields, then they will say with a malevolent ehidtse, - "... but in Russia there is such a nema .. sala urkians !!!!"

[kalibr]

In Northern Cyprus, a huge flag of Northern Cyprus is laid out on a mountain. Just monstrous. How many dozens (!) Of football fields. Visible from everywhere! You can’t take your eyes off as you drive along the road. But ... who recognized him, Northern Cyprus, and who cares about his flag?

[Resident007]

Quote: kalibr

In Northern Cyprus, a huge flag of Northern Cyprus is laid out on a mountain. Just monstrous. How many dozens (!) Of football fields. Visible from everywhere! You can’t take your eyes off as you drive along the road. But ... who recognized him, Northern Cyprus, and who cares about his flag?

So exactly who does he need this flag on xy and why? Just when there’s nothing to be proud of, they come up with all the jugs ... Just jesters

[BEECH 1972]

Then the offshore guys laughed in order. Americans at one time offered them to make a flag of the same size, but the United States. They preferred to lay out their fuck which no one needs. And so Cyprus would have made the new capital of handshake fighters for the right to the left, from around the world.

[Vend]

In the same Russia, only the Sukhoi Design Bureau remained “afloat” - thanks to, basically, the military-technical segment. We, in spite of everything, have retained all the intellectual potential, the company employs about 13 thousand people.

Well, with the policies pursued by Ukraine, this is not for long. Soon, there will be nothing left of Antonov. Laughs the one who laughs last.

[Alekseev]

Quote: Wend

Soon, there will be nothing left of Antonov.

Well, a lot left? It is unlikely!
And Ruslan and Mriya - Soviet, not Ukrainian big achievement and the already very distant, including technologically, past.
What else have "those who have kept the intellectual level" created, how many planes do they produce per year?
Why is the main assembly plant of the same An-148 Voronezh, not Aviastar?
Lepetuly, which is larger in Ukraine than before the fiig now, but from their babble no progress will come there.

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: Alekseev

Both Ruslan and Mriya are Soviet, and not Ukrainian, great achievements and already very distant past, including technologically, the past.

Well, yes, that "Mriya", which Ukrainians "swell" with, was built in 1988. But their "Mriya", which cannot be completed for a quarter of a century.

[BEECH 1972]

\\\ And here is their "Mriya", which cannot be completed for a quarter of a century.
/// And here it is, only from a more convenient angle, more fully revealing the picture, how an unfinished glider has peacefully decayed for 20 years next to decommissioned Liases. And this decade, a rotting glider on the street, is unlikely to bear structural loads.

[alekc75]

on an airplane, silt and kits for ms and su-100

[otter.1]

And that "Antonov" is still alive? As far as I understand astronomy, in what form KB, this is death, what would they try to assert there.

[siberalt]

Well, let's assume that the "Mriya" was sharpened by the "Buran" baud and remained, in my opinion, in a single copy. And even then he flies only with his carrier on board. Another "Mriya" cannot be built. And Ukraine has nothing to brag about. The plane was made in the USSR. As for the "Antonov" itself, there will soon be no wipers for all the design bureaus.

[RUSOIVAN]

Our decadent industry has just smashed ISIS: imagine what the advanced ones will do!

[Engineer]

Mriya was never imprisoned under Buran. On the instructions of Lozi-Lozinsky, the Antonovites made Mriya under the MAKS. Parts of the Energia rocket and the blizzard itself were delivered to Baikonur 3M-T. When Mriya took off, the epic with Bran was already buried by Gorbachev. And all that was left for Mriya was to take Buran to an exhibition in Le Bourget.

[avt]

Quote: Engineer

Mriya was never imprisoned under Buran.

It was just under Buran that they did it, but NPO Molniya didn’t have time to remake Dandy into Atlant. But already in the 90s Lozino Lozinsky actually suggested MAKS to do it even before Clipper.

[Forget]

Quote: siberalt

Another "Mriya" cannot be built.

unequivocally, without Russian titanium and press forging equipment, the second Mriya cannot be built

[vodolaz]

I remembered the joke:

We examined your offer and decided to purchase some grass that you smoke.

[79807420129]

In spite of everything, we retained all our intellectual potential.

Quote: Smoked

Make a bite of cotton! Type.

Well, yes, well, yes, they did, but I don’t know what they have saved there, what potential, if many specialists from Motor Sich are already working on the Saturn in Rybinsk. That's how Zori Mash is already waiting for specialists on the maritime theme.

[GSH-18]

"Antonov" management: "In Russia," only the Sukhoi Design Bureau remained afloat, and we retained all our intellectual potential "

You can read only the title, further reading is not necessary D.B.

[Wiruz]

Our "Mriya" for the third week does not leave the news releases around the world. The plane is solemnly met in Europe, Asia, Australia, the Middle East.

For your Mriya, say thanks to the Soviet Union, as well as for Antonov Design Bureau itself. Yes, in general, for all of Ukraine and Ukrainians - thanks (here is sarcasm) to Lenin and his gang

[GSH-18]

Quote: Wiruz

Our "Mriya" for the third week does not leave the news releases around the world. The plane is solemnly met in Europe, Asia, Australia, the Middle East.

For your Mriya, say thanks to the Soviet Union, as well as for Antonov Design Bureau itself. Yes, in general, for all of Ukraine and Ukrainians - thanks (here is sarcasm) to Lenin and his gang

There is a popular proverb about the whole Khokhlostan: "The fool is getting richer with his thought!"

[aksakal]

Of course, the loss of positions in the Russian aviation industry, but not Antonovites to judge about this

[Wiruz]

Can you explain this to them?

What difference does it have that we have nothing, look, there are people in Russia who already have beavers from hunger !!!

And you can’t explain to them that beaver is a delicacy

[avt]

Quote: Wiruz

And you can’t explain to them that beaver is a delicacy

Heraza !? This one is still eating beaver! Hedgehogs have already gone, hedgehogs, everyone is hunting in the forest!

[Wedmak]

Heraza !? This one is still eating beaver!

Probably stayed from last year. We have already eaten all the hedgehogs, we are switching to sparrows. Cockroaches and other insects are already nervous.

[Dimy4]

And in Europe, according to rumors, snails are eaten. With hunger probably.

[BEECH 1972]

\\\ And in Europe, according to rumors, snails eat. With hunger probably.
/// This is not yet from hunger. Snails, like frogs and other vile and cold delicacies, go well from nerves. To restore the natural balance of balanced thoughts and a cold head, so to speak.

[Corporal Valera]

Quote: Wedmak

Probably stayed from last year.

Men, where to get hedgehogs, do not tell me? Quinoa ends

[Red_Hamer]

Quinoa? Well then the nettle went, dandelions. You need protein, go pick wood in bark beetles.

[Red_Hamer]

Beavers and hedgehogs are not in trend today, we have already eaten them all, the population has not recovered. I have to interrupt the Bugagaga mouse Smuggled from DNR, deliveries are coming to us! Don't believe me? There is also a photo in the internet, - "Premium Dining Mouse". And so, a by-product for food diets: "Ice cream food mouse." Marinate in "Fiesta" sauce for 4 hours. And in the oven until golden brown! Under Romanee Conti they go very well, I recommend

[razmik72]

Quote: avt

Quote: Wiruz

And you can’t explain to them that beaver is a delicacy

Heraza !? This one is still eating beaver! Hedgehogs have already gone, hedgehogs, everyone is hunting in the forest!

Hedgehogs are crazy , I heard it on Russian TV, I would have to be careful.

[engineer74]

What for hedgehogs ?!
Caviar is already not enough for everyone!

[engineer74]

And gasoline for 34 €!

[Dali]

Actually, in the photo Eurocents per liter ...

[ded100]

You can’t even offer a corn mailer. You can’t launch balloons!

[kotvov]

it’s necessary to understand that they’ll trade heads.

[BEECH 1972]

Well, why immediately bounty, Antonov Design Bureau plans to break the aviation modeling market. They will sculpt radio-controlled models with virtual video control, the creators of the 7th generation Azovets tank promised to help with video equipment, they say the eyes from the tank still remain.

[Corvetkapitan]

It is enough to compare how many, after the collapse of the USSR, the Tu-204 was built in the Russian Federation, various modifications and how many Anovs were built in Ukraine, and even with the use of Russian components ... Dill yap ...

[donavi49]

Well, there’s been enough.

Tu-2XX less than 100, even considering rejected.
http://russianplanes.net/planelist/Tupolev/Tu-204/214
An-74 - 79 machines from the 92 of the year in Kharkov.
http://russianplanes.net/planelist/Antonov/An-72/74
An-32 - 90 pieces, including the current contract for Iraq.
http://russianplanes.net/planelist/Antonov/An-32
Plus how much is An-140 in Kharkov.
http://russianplanes.net/planelist/Antonov/An-140

Although, in general, the backlog is used, funds are not updated, new developments, mainly restating old ones, and the same 140 / 148 / 158 are stillborn, to be honest, as the order map shows (that is, the market does not need them, the only 148 and 140 customer - federal departments of Russia from under the stick).

[Corvetkapitan]

And now about the birds. All the Russian-made avionics on Anakh, Russian-made propellers, and so on. Some of the An-aircraft that are now in service with the RF Air Force are generally assembled in the Russian Federation. Question - What was assembled in Ukraine? All these An-32s were produced in the USSR, and about that how, under the guise of new armored personnel carriers, Ukraine sold armored hulls removed from old, still Soviet armored personnel carriers, armored hulls abroad, we have heard a lot ... So with the An-32, for sure, the same story. new and repaired them not without the use of components from the Russian Federation. There is not a single Ukrainian nut on the Tu-204, it is a completely Russian plane. All Ruslan and Mriya aircraft were built not in Ukraine, but in the USSR, after the collapse of which Ukraine did not build a single Ruslan and Mriya aircraft. Russia, without Ukraine, is building not only the Tu-204, but also the Il-476, which also lack Ukrainian spare parts. In Russia, after the collapse of the USSR, several large Il-96s were built, one Tu-160 was completed ... in the industry of the Russian Federation are not rosy, but even comparing the aviation industry of the Russian Federation and Ukraine is ridiculous ...

[avt]

We can offer the customer transport aircraft with carrying capacities from 2,5 tons to 250 tons, regional passenger aircraft in the niche up to 100 seats and special-purpose aircraft.

You could offer, but no one will buy anything.

this is "a new milestone in the development of the Ukrainian aircraft industry." Such a statement in an interview with UNIAN made the vice president of the company Alexander Kotsyuba.

Aha! Exactly ! The old proven "new era" of dismantling equipment and structures for scrap metal. We have already passed this in Russia. The past management, we must pay tribute, really preserved both the design bureau and the transport company, uniting into the Antonov concern? And these maydaunnyh racers are only rubbing their own theft with such beeps about the peremogs. I would have fired about the fact that Antonov will take part in creation of a new ship structure for the Naval Forces of Ukraine. Some kind of stream of reverse consciousness.

[Prisoner]

Someday they will sleep it off and go nuts! And they will take a long time to figure out what they have done. (And "partners from Saudi Arabia" are cool. What a great aviation power, pioneers, so to speak. A carpet plane is like from those lands.) That "Ruslans" and "Mriya" are Soviet planes and they were built by the whole Union about this not a word.

[Muvka]

And "Tupolev" where did it go? Did I oversleep something?

[Pete mitchell]

I already asked something: how do they feed them all, that brains wedge on the jerboa.
I think that this is another "specialist" of whom there are plenty everywhere, he does not know history, traditions, and even more so, he has never seen the globe either. But the task of "yapping" on command is performed like Pavlov's dog, which is still needed for Europeanization. Sad, very sad ..

[svp67]

Our "Mriya" for the third week does not leave the news releases around the world. The plane is solemnly met in Europe, Asia, Australia, the Middle East.

She is not YOURS, she is GENERAL - ALLIANCE.

At the same time, Kotsyuba announced that Antonov continued to develop after breaking ties with Russia.

And the fact that almost all new developments were carried out with Russian money, and we almost didn’t get the result of them ...

But, according to Kotsyuba, the Russian aircraft industry is "in decline":

Well, well, TIME, will it show that this is "PEREMOGA" or "ZRADA"?

[weksha50]

Quote: svp67

And the fact that almost all new developments were carried out with Russian money, and we almost didn’t get the result of them ..

It is a pity that the Saudis do not know about this ... They bred them for money, like suckers ...

[Wolka]

and in general, in Ukrainian, to offer does not mean yet to do, there are more than enough examples of this, is it worth it

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Tu-204SM are under construction, IL-76MD-90A, tankers plan to build aircraft on the basis of IL-96-400. Soon they will begin to produce MS-21.
And what does Antonov Design Bureau produce? They are all proud of the An-225 aircraft, but they designed and built it in the USSR, if they are so independent that they won’t complete the second An-225?

[pts-m]

As in a popular saying ... if you don’t remember about yourself, then no one will remember about you ... urine, it is a ruin.

[Evgen2x]

White is called black, black is white! in the style of the Great Ukrainians))) And if they call everything as it is, they themselves will shake it, what they did!

[NEXUS]

Our "Mriya" for the third week does not leave the news releases around the world. The plane is solemnly met in Europe, Asia, Australia, the Middle East.

If I'm not mistaken, the AN-225 "Mriya" is now in a single copy. Further ... the second copy of the Ukrainians cannot finish building this way. Production: new large-sized milled power frames, fuselage lows and brackets, some serial units and parts of the aircraft-JSC " Aviastar-SP "(Russia), production of the aircraft landing gear-Nizhny Novgorod open joint-stock company" Hydromash "(Russia), even painting was carried out by specialists from Voronezh ... and now the question isHow are Antonovites going to build Mriya, if there is an order?
To lug, not to carry bags!

[boris-1230]

.and now the question is: How are the Antonovites going to build Mriya, if there is an order?

But they are not going to build. Farted into the water and happily watching the bubbles. We experience them more!

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

How are Antonovites going to build Mriya, if there is an order?

As usual. Language! They will say that the Russians are to blame for everything!

[Engineer]

Your intellectual potential is several tons of cargo in the nose of the aircraft, due to the fact that employees can no longer calculate the alignment of the aircraft, which third-year students of a specialized educational institution can do! There was no such shame in the era of drawing boards and rulers, but now, when designing in CAD systems, make such a mistake! The management of "Antonov" disgraces the glorious name of the Soviet designer, and indeed the entire Soviet aviation industry!

[Corvetkapitan]

OKB Antonova, these are Russian Antonov and Izotov (author of engines, for AN aircraft). No Russians, no Anov ...

[le-s-ha]

From neighboring news "Samara" Aviakor "handed over to the customer another An-140 aircraft, manufactured under a state contract with the RF Ministry of Defense." Let this board be credited to themselves, I think Aviakor will not feel sorry for it (and most likely just indifferent)

[HAM]

In fact, the "saved" intellectual potential for some reason helps to build the AN 140s in Ulyanovsk, and "aggressive marketers" sit in Kueva ... and .. dream that the Arabs will build "Dreams".

[KRIG55]

Yes, we do not mind, let them develop aggressively. Only you cannot praise yourself - no one will. "Mriya" can be thrown at the ATO, after all, the payload - no one has such ...

[Eastern wind]

Kotsyuba’s glass will blow a glass - and the most powerful aircraft building in Ukraine, another will wave — everybody is jealous of the Ukrainians, the third will wave… here the hallucinations begin to be more powerful ...

[ARES623]

It would be better if he told how many cars were sold to customers in 2015. This is factual material. And you don't need to talk a lot about your dreams, and there is zero sense from them. He says all this so that he himself, along with the chair, is not "carried out." Everything that Antonov can produce today (again, if there are firm and at least partially paid contracts) was developed back in the USSR, at least in the early 90s, when the aviation industry system of the former Soviet republics was still working within the framework of union integration. And then - everything new ended, rework and repainting of old projects began. The same An-225 is unlikely to be built today according to a finished project. There is a feeling that today Ukraine will not be able to manufacture the D-18T, let alone bring it to the level of modern certification for foreign countries. exploitation. So this Kotsyuba should not puff up his cheeks, but restore the broken ties with Russia. But this question is not of his level. We will see how they will offer "to the customer transport aircraft with a payload from 2,5 tons to 250 tons, regional passenger aircraft in the niche of up to 100 seats and special-purpose aircraft." Most likely in the form of production licenses ...

[sir_obs]

Heh, the plane was built in the Soviet Union, it must be decommunized urgently, and not fly to Europe. What about the second? Let them show a picture of what is left of it. For the entire time of independence, they could not finish building, and yet he was 90 percent ready. So it turns up.

Published in 2009


"ANTK named after Antonov assumes that commercial operation of the second An-225 will begin in 2-3 years


Kiev. 21 July. INTERFAX-UKRAINE - The second transport An-225 "Mriya" with a carrying capacity of 250 tons can enter the world market for commercial transportation of large-sized and super-heavy cargo in 2-3 years, they do not exclude the ANTK im. Antonova (Kiev).

"Today we are negotiating with investors on the completion of the aircraft. There are customers who want to invest and use the aircraft in two versions: as a unique transport aircraft, as well as in the space program," the General Designer of the ANTK named after. Antonova Dmitry Kiva during the Farnborough 2008 International Aviation and Space Show (Great Britain), which took place on July 14-20.

"The time frame (for the car to enter the market - IF) is 2-3 years," the general designer suggested.

"The glider is ready, the question only concerns the equipment of the aircraft," he said.

An-225 "Mriya" was created in 1988 for transportation from manufacturing plants and reserve airfields of the orbital spacecraft "Buran", as well as rocket blocks "Energia" to the cosmodrome "Baikonur" (Kazakhstan). In addition, the aircraft was planned to be used as an air launch platform for space launches. The aircraft construction program was curtailed due to the collapse of the USSR.

In the spring of 2001 the aircraft was restored, in the same year the type certificate was received and the commercial operation of the aircraft began. it's all about 01-01. namely now UR-82060. "


And the second glider rotted

[bmv04636]

The flight tests of the Ukrainian An-178 identified a serious design error: the latest military transport aircraft has incorrect alignment, which is why the aircraft can only fly with ballast weighing 1,32 tons in the form of 15 steel plates laid behind the cockpit. This was reported by "Rossiyskaya Gazeta" with reference to insider information of GP Antonov, which appeared to bloggers.

It was with such a load that the An-178 traveled to air shows in Le Bourget and Dubai. Immediately after landing, the plates were unloaded and hid, the newspaper writes.

Experts suggest that the reason for the misalignment of the machine was the decision to increase the wingspan and the area of ​​the wings. At the same time, the designers left the fuselage unchanged. Wings changed due to mismatch of takeoff and landing characteristics declared.

An-178 was designed and built by the Antonov Ukrainian State Aircraft Corporation. Work on the creation of the aircraft began in 2010, the first flight of the An-178 made in May 2015. Oh how

[weksha50]

""In Russia, only the Sukhoi design bureau remained "afloat", and we retained all the intellectual potential ".....
this is “a new milestone in the development of the Ukrainian aircraft industry"...

Mdyayayaya ... Tales of Aunt Owls for very little ...
I will not talk about Russian aviation design bureaus ...
I had a good acquaintance in the early 80s - a design engineer from the Antonov Design Bureau (he has been in Singapore for a long time, and I have no connection with him as much) ...
I once told when I was visiting him in Kiev about existing already then corruption schemes in this company ... How projects were pushed in, scammed with them, and as a result, these projects were patented in the same USA - one to one ... This was the case with the fastening system for Buran on Mriya, and more brought a bunch of examples ...

I do not think that in modern Ukraine something has improved at least one iota in the Antonov Design Bureau ...
And I don’t think that they still have at least some kind of intellectual and production potential ...

Their aircraft do not need anyone but Russia ... And since they still have not understood this, what kind of intelligence are we talking about ???

[Aleksandr1959]

Their aircraft do not need anyone but Russia ... And since they still have not understood this, what kind of intelligence are we talking about ???

They tried to stir up something with the Arabs .... but they got it right in time, that with the current relations between Russia and Ukraine, due to the fact that the Tuva heap of components for Antonov’s planes came from Russia ... then the Arabs really faced the prospect of not getting anything .
This stuffing is another attempt to show how good it is to live and work in an independent, and how badly in Russia.
And where are they going to build something? In Ukraine, as far as I remember, two aircraft factories. In Kiev and in Kharkov.

[Olegovi4]

I strongly do not understand these people. because soon they will go around the world, living in the once one of the richest regions of the Earth. devastation, desolation around. wake up people. throw out the TV.

[gukoyan]

Mriya is a beautiful plane .... But it’s only Soviet, not Khokhlyat.

[itvs]

It sounds corny: The country is the people who live in it + the resource base determined by the territory.
And the country's success is how much more value added these people create. If these are shepherds and collectors of nuts and honey - this is one thing. If these are engineers in high-tech production, this is a completely different scenario. Aviation and space industry allow to create many (including secondary) jobs. / Next question: to provide a market for these products. With the West, everything is clear, any manufacturers of third countries (Japan, Canada, Brazil, including about Ukraine and the Russian Federation, I generally keep quiet), the EU and the states will mercilessly drown, driving into unprofitable niches. The Russian Federation has a huge domestic market due to the territory. But Ukraine alone is doomed. And no mantras will help here, the generation will change - ten years are left - and Antonov and Yuzhmash will melt like mirages.

[itvs]

regarding the prospects of our country. If in the future our authorities will continue to defend the interests of the country, as they have been doing consistently over the past ten years, then as soon as ms-21 takes wing (Yakovlev design bureau by the way), then the preferences for saturating the domestic market with this machine will be several times greater than for superjet-a / Since the share of domestic components in it is critically higher.

[askort154]

Where is the SBU and Lyashko looking ?! Kotsyuba brazenly advertises the remains of the Soviet aircraft industry around the world!
Antonov Design Bureau was born in Novosibirsk. Kotsyubu urgently in the trash can!

[qwert111]

Of course, I do not know about the intellectual potential, but I recall the article: "Ukraine sold to Croatia MiGs with" broken serial numbers "" With such intelligence, I look forward to a fast flight to Mars.

[vetor]

Did Ukraine create a mriy? It must be cut according to the decunization law. When the USSR was developed and built.

[LÄRZ]

In the same Russia, only the Sukhoi Design Bureau was “afloat”

gurgled, choking, Kotsyuba. With Saudi Arabia, you say, will you produce planes? Heh !! "The blind man said," let's see. "

[JonnyT]

Ragul in the manual - that says it all.

[voyaka uh]

Antonov's future depends on luck or failure
their joint project with the UAE
(and by Saudi, it seems).
Their An-178 has a niche in the market. The Chinese are very
are interested. If the An-178 goes widely, then
Antonov will be "on horseback".

[bmv04636]

the plane with cast-iron plates will be delivered to the customer

[1rl141]

Quote: bmv04636

the plane with cast-iron plates will be delivered to the customer

Of course! And in addition to the plates, as a bonus, 10 Ukrainians for unloading and loading of these plates. For soldering, they will fly wherever you want without days off and holidays.

[Skubudu]

RF supplies of components they block and sailed ...

[avt]

Quote: voyaka uh

Antonov's future depends on luck or failure
their joint project with the UAE
(and by Saudi, it seems).

And how many of our protocols were written with the Saudis and other Arabs, well ....

Quote: voyaka uh

Their An-178 has a niche in the market.

This "niche" is called no shisha. The device was blinded on a fast ramp from the An-148 solely in order to fit into the RF Ministry of Defense in place of the decelerated Il-214. It is no longer WELL-SAME-N! with usovskiye engines and components, which was lifted into the air earlier, and this flying banner can be disassembled for non-ferrous metal.

Quote: voyaka uh

that
Antonov will be "on horseback".

“If I had a horse, it would be a number, if a horse had me, I’d probably die,” Antonov said, “dying. we will not let it into the series. Now they don't even have to strain - they will optimize the costs in Ukraine and the aviation industry will die there. The Kharkov Aviation Plant has already stopped.

[sir_obs]

If the Chinese are interested, then they will buy one and replicate themselves

[twincam]

"our Mriya")))
pleased)))

Ukrainians from the existing team have at least 1 person related to the design or construction of the AN-225?

[izGOI]

Our "Mriya" for the third week does not leave the news releases around the world. The plane is solemnly met in Europe, Asia, Australia, the Middle East.
I am sitting in Europe, watching news releases. Whatever they say (and about Obama, and about Merkel and about the Islamization of Europe, and about the Portuguese, who sold NATO secrets to Russia), and I've never heard of Mriya.

[sodick]

Quote: Darkmor

With such a territory and 150 million people there will always be an internal market for civil aviation. IS ALWAYS!

Yeah, wait more, at such prices it’s cheaper to fly abroad than in Russia. Yes, and regional airports are closed. We cannot catch up with the USSR in the amount of air transportation with our wild capitolism and the desire for bureaucrats for quick profit and sky-high salaries that are not comparable to their real work.

[zap167]

So many idiots in one country are obviously too much.

[edeligor]

I caught myself thinking that Ukrainian food companies generally cannot exist without Russia. In every thought, word, interview. Maybe it's love? Like children, right.

[Zaurbek]

Design Bureau Antonov retained no more competencies than Design Bureau Ilyushin. But KB Ilyushin:
1. Moved the production of IL-76 from Uzbekistan
2. Fully upgraded the IL-76, in fact, in a new plane.
3. organizes mass production.
4. The next stage of the IL-114.
With all this, our advantage is a large domestic market and a closed production cycle.

[ksv36]

I already hate yellow-blue color matching ...

[siberalt]

"Buran" riding on "Mriya"

[exo]

Only everything Antonov Design Bureau is proud of: done in the USSR. Although, we must pay tribute to them, the An-148/158 and An-178 family, the brainchild of an already independent design bureau. Moreover, the An-178, with normal western engines, can take its niche in the world.
As for the Russian design bureaus, he is in many respects right. The truth is that a revival was slowly taking place.

[Orionvit]

Quote: boris-1230

And who built it, Ukraine?

ukradina stood on the edge. "Mriya" was built in the USSR, components came from all over the Union - a one-piece copy, designed for a specific task. ukradina cannot even build a chassis for it on its own - the potential is not the same! But ambition! They can only measure themselves with "pussy" ...

Well, maybe the engines too, if Motor Sich bends, only Ukraine doesn't have enough money. in the entire history of Independence, 25 years, there was only one order for Motor Sich from Ukraine, for the repair of eight helicopter engines. This is how they support their manufacturer. Why don't they cut Mriya under the decommunization law? This is the legacy of the bloody scoop.

[Ruswolf]

Europe is too small to allow Ukraine to enter the domestic industry. If I am not mistaken, the leadership of the French Airbus has already spoken out about this.
Again, the aircraft industry is expensive. To obtain development and, accordingly, profit, huge investments are needed. (Pennies - where). In Ukraine, it was planned to adopt an aircraft building program for 7 years, for 37 billion hryvnia - 5 billion a year. But at the same time, the government took on only 16 billion. Question: - "Where does Zin's money come from?" Who will invest in the "black hole"

for example,
According to the Russian program, the volume of financing the sector in 2013 - 2025 will amount to 991,64 billion rubles.

[bmv04636]

it’s not regrettable to say, but Antonov’s design bureau died

[iouris]

Moses was the first to introduce technology: to lead people in the desert for 40 years. Everything that remains of the USSR "dies" in 15 years and will begin ...
Instead of one general secretary, we have 15 Moses.

[behemot]

what is it. Well, yes, the black lord said that the Russian economy is torn, then torn!

[certero]

Quote: exo

Only everything that Antonov Design Bureau is proud of: done in the USSR.

What is striking is how quickly they were able to change the consciousness of an entire nation. Now, after all, the nationality of a scientist, constructor, military leader is constantly emphasized on the independence one. Although they were all citizens of the empire. What can I say, well done their ideologists.

[proud]

Such creations of human hands (Mriya) are the personification of greatness! Today's Ukraine and Greatness - Things are not compatible! Mriya for Ukraine is a monument to the former industrial and scientific intellectual power, which it seems to me that it has lost forever!

[verb58]

Mriya is a monument to the Soviet Union! And, it’s a pity that we have now become enemies.

[Ros 56]

Clown, it was the USSR that built Mriya, and when it was, but now you are not capable of anything. What do you transport your airborne troops on?

[mamont5]

Yes-ah, how dating mania has penetrated deeply...

By the way, what is it in the photo that the colors of the ukroflag are upside down? Zrada again?

[BEECH 1972]

Quote: mamont5

By the way, what is it in the photo that the colors of the ukroflag are upside down? Zrada again?

///Huh! No harm! What a disguise!

[Sochi]

what a bastard... he disgraces my grandmother's name. I really hope it's not a relative.

[dima mzk]

and what is it that is not afloat? http://www.tupolev.ru/ or is this design bureau http://ilyushin.org/ not a design bureau? ,MIG,Yakovlev OKB....

[an_ursus]

An-225 and An-124, the great Soviet legacy, which the ghouls of the Kyiv junta are not capable of one iota of. Make fun and stink, masters, which suits them well with a dislocated head.

[Alex20042004]

All that dill needs now is the same as 20 years ago - it is to sell at a higher profit what they have left from the USSR.
And now there is an advertisement for the sale of the remaining inheritance. Someone will get rich from this, but what about the people? Yes, hr_n is always with him (with the people).

[Bizer]

Their Western colleagues will clearly explain to them what ACTIVE marketing is. It will be interesting to see this case...

[heir]

When talking about the decline of aircraft manufacturing in Russia, they are not lying, they believe in it because that’s what they are told. The extent to which the population of Ukraine is fooled about the current level of development of Russia can be understood from the reasoning of my Russian classmate, who lived for many years in Crimea, who, seeing me as a “naive fool,” explained via Skype how stupid I am for believing in the possibility of that Russia will be able to build a bridge to Crimea someday...

[Ultima 15]

Svidomo are parasitic on the remnants of Soviet potential. For some reason, during the years of independence, Ukrainians did not build a single “Mriya”, it was built by the USSR

[Kerzhak]

Now they are not paid for planes, but for interviews. That's what they're paying for.

[BEECH 1972]

Yes, we’re not talking about the Russian Sukhoi Design Bureau at all. It’s just that today in the second-hand Ukraine there is a mandatory condition for officials of various services and government departments of Banderstadt, management of ordinary or strategic enterprises, commercial associations, or owners of private individual or share businesses to stay afloat, in their posts and generally retain their means the right to business, and sometimes to freedom or even life, you need to pass a test of loyalty to the junta and Banderstadt. Remember the same tests of loyalty and oath of Wehrmacht soldiers to Hitler, there is also something painfully familiar here:
*Ich schwöre bei Gott diesen heiligen Eid, dass ich dem Führer des bandera und ukrainische Reiches und Volkes, Adolf Hitler, Bandera und Petro Poroschenko, dem Oberbefehlshaber der Wehrmacht, unbedingten Gehorsam leisten und als tapferer Soldat bereit sein will, jederzeit für diesen E id mein Leben einzusetzen.*
And the conditions of this test include a mandatory speech, in which a candidate or a group of candidates must lie as colorfully and flowerily as possible, glorifying our little “Banderstadt”, spit in the direction of Russia as deliciously as possible, swear to faithfully serve the ideas of the old Fuhrers and their native “Banderstadt” and take the oath to the new Fuhrer “don’t give money,” that is, to “Petrushka Paprashenko,” or not today or tomorrow to the new “Hetman Nadia Gavchenko”? Otherwise, on the territory of a used Ukraine, today you won’t even be able to become a full citizen of the new “Banderstadt”!

[BEECH 1972]

Quote: Corporal Valera

Quote: Wedmak

Probably stayed from last year.

Men, where to get hedgehogs, do not tell me? Quinoa ends

///They say it’s good to catch hedgehogs in the fog. Or a bowl full of three sevens port wine placed in the forest makes excellent drunken hedgehogs, immediately drank and ate, so to speak.

[aba]

We can offer the customer transport aircraft with a carrying capacity from 2,5 tons to 250 tons

Let them make at least one more Mriya, and not just offer it.