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"Immortal regiment". The opinion of a person for whom the slogan “For faith, the king and the fatherland!” Is not an empty phrase

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I do not like the word "monarchy". I really do not like. And I do not like being called a monarchist. First, it is not a Russian word, but a Latin one. Secondly, Russia has never had a classical Western monarchy, so the "monarchists" are fighting for what was not. And, thirdly, the words “monarchy” and “monarchists” in our country are representatives of liberal and communist circles replacing the true state of Russian statehood - “autocracy”.

I am not a monarchist, I am a supporter of autocracy, the natural state of Russian statehood for a millennium. The word “monarchy” in the overwhelming majority of people evokes associations with kings and emperors, with the classic definition of absolutism, with the relations of overlords — vassal. Overlord - the absolute ruler, has the power and absolute rights. A vassal is an absolute subordinate, a slave; it has only duties to its overlord. All история Western monarchies consist of internal conflicts, where the overlords sought to preserve maximum rights for themselves, and the vassals, by dividing into different classes, sought to reduce the number of their duties to the overlord and obtain the maximum number of rights over their vassals.

Naturally, the vassals, to put it mildly, did not like the overlords. If there was devotion, then basically it was the devotion of a dog. But overwhelmingly, the relationship was the height of hypocrisy, this hypocrisy has been cultivated in Western society for centuries. You want to achieve maximum success - hypocrite, swan, dodge in front of your overlord. You recoup on your vassals, who, in turn, will be a hypocrite in front of you, terribly hating you.

The people gave nicknames to their suzerain kings: Harold I, Rabbit, Sven I the Forkbeard, Richard III the Hunchback, William II Rufus (Red), Edward I Longshenks (Long-Legged), Mary the Bloody, Ethelred II the Unreasonable, and so on. Father William the Conqueror was generally called the Devil.

Can you imagine that in Russia the people of their kings endowed with similar nicknames? The most common address to the tsar in Russia was the “king-father”. And no one forced the people to call the king so. The initiative came from the bottom, from the people themselves. Why?

Just the state system of Russia (autocratic) was fundamentally different from the classical Western monarchy. Upon entering the throne, every Russian sovereign underwent an anointing of the kingdom, in which he swore an oath before God to keep faith, the people and the state and not betray his people. That is, the Russian sovereign, first of all, assumed responsibilities. And his rights as a sovereign flowed from the responsibilities assumed.

The basis of state relations was the patriarchal family structure, where the sovereign is the patriarch, and is responsible not only for the health and well-being of his family - the people, but also for faith and morality. Moreover, the Russian sovereign never declared himself to be a viceroy, deputy of God, or especially equal to God. He only took upon himself the heaviest burden of responsibility. Naturally, as in any family, there were different members - joyful and careless, smart and stupid, loyal and unfaithful. The former were encouraged, and the latter were punished. This structure was originally given by God and proved its effectiveness over many millennia, the entire history of mankind. One had only to move away from this structure in one of its components, as for people it ended with wars, catastrophes, the death of entire states and civilizations.

There are many examples in Russian history when the sovereign sacrificed himself for the sake of his subjects, specific people. From the last Russian sovereigns, we can give an example of Alexander III and his son Nicholas II. Alexander, distinguished by tremendous health and an article, on his mighty shoulders kept a train car that crashed near Kharkov, until the last man was taken out from under his debris. It was then that the sovereign "overstrained the vein," and soon he died.

Nicholas, who was not brought up to be a sovereign and did not receive the necessary skills, until the end remained faithful to God and to his own people, in the bulk, deceived and betrayed him. He sacrificed his life and the life of his entire large family, but did not betray, but redeemed his people. Perhaps, thanks to his self-sacrifice, Russia, the Russian people and the Orthodox faith were preserved, and did not disappear before the devilish pressure of the rootless cosmopolitans.

Even sympathetic atheists, even many Orthodox, are hard to understand the essence of the feat of Nicholas, for which the Orthodox Church canonized him and his family as holy martyrs. Why did this happen only in 2000, not earlier? People gloating, but do not understand this, I want to send to canonization criteria.

Unlike Western absolute monarchies, the Russian autocracy had a huge sacral component and was accompanied by many phenomena that could not be explained from the point of view of science. Not every sovereign upon his accession to the throne was worthy of him, but after having received the anointing of the anointing, he eventually changed to such an extent that he ended his way very worthily, a true statesman and keeper of the faith and the Russian people. There are examples of Paul I, Alexander I, Alexander II. Anticipating the sarcasm of atheists and other adherents of "scientific theories", I refer them to the criterion of the empirical theory that they understand (in theory) - Popper criterion.

All these facts are trying to neutralize the followers of most modern ideologies and movements without ideologies, from liberals and communists, to pagans and the movement “The Essence of Time”. And since, in fact, it is not realistic to do this, they use the methods of modern information technologies, in particular, throwing informational viruses into the information space. They simply equate Western-style monarchists and supporters of the Russian autocracy. All supporters of autocracy are simply declared by people who dream, by supporting Princess Maria Romanova (Hohenzollern), to bring the Rothschilds appointees to the Russian throne. If you are a “monarchist,” then the Western liberal of the English spill is sure. True, by following their own logic, all liberals can be accused of supporting American "scalping hunters" and the slave trade, communists in the crimes of Pol Pot, and sutevtsev in the genocide of the Russian people, unleashed by the supporters of Trotsky.

I respect the members of the House of Romanov as descendants of the great Russian kind of rulers who ruled Russia for 300 years. However, any supporter of the Russian autocracy knows about Pavlovsk Act of successionwhich was taken during the "coronation" of Paul himself in 1797, and was included in all publications Code of Laws of the Russian Empire. This act has not been canceled, and it is still legitimate. The act imposes huge restrictions on applicants for the Russian throne, and, according to him, none of the current Romanovs can become a Russian sovereign otherwise than being elected to the Zemsky Sobor. That is, any of the Romanovs is legally the same applicant as any of us.

This fact is also heavily ignored by the opponents of autocracy. Still, ideologically it is much easier to slip a simulacrum to the people, thereby destroying and compromising the image itself. And in this remarkably unanimous opponents of the Russian Orthodox statehood, liberals, communists, socialists, sutevtsy, nationalists, supporters of other religious and political sects. This factor most likely explains the demonstrative distancing of the leadership of the Crimea, even Natalia Poklonskaya, from Maria Romanova during her last visit there. Information space expectedly exploded publications against the Romanovsthat somewhat prevented unfolding information campaign against the Russian autocracy.

Moreover, in the environment of denunciators of unity, there was not and is not. The same “regime laters” and opponents of a thousand-year Russian history published articles like против unfolding campaign and in its support. The only more or less consistent force was the initiator of the current information campaign Kurginyan and his “Essence of Time”.

Why the peak of this campaign fell on the holiday of Victory, sacred for all of us, and precisely on the action “Immortal regiment”? The explanation for this is extremely simple. Just look at the movement “The Essence of Time” itself. First of all, the complete absence of ideology, iron discipline, members zombies, the imposition of the cult of Kurginyan himself up to deification, destruction and obstruction by mass insults of anyone disagreeing with the divine opinion and, most importantly, attempts in the absence of state-driven ideas by discrediting initiators are striking. yourself to ride the popular ideas of the people and jump on the step of the departing train.

Kurginyan was not the initiator of the "Russian Spring", "Russian World", the revival of Russia within the historical boundaries, the unification of all Russian people in one state. He is not the author of any successful project in the civilizational, political and economic spheres of Russia. However, he is trying to "cling" to any more or less popular project among the people. Without carrying anything constructive, he simply tries to “shove” other participants by means of their informational baiting of the infostructure created by him, trying to present himself as the initiator of the project, and the main driving force. So it was with the rally on Poklonnaya Hill, and with the Parent Assembly, and with the reunification of the Crimea, and the war of liberation in the Donbas.

I will give an example of only the latest events. It was V. Putin who carried out the reunification of the Crimea, it was the inhabitants of the Crimea who came to rallies and, despite the threats of their lives, defended their right to be with Russia. It was N. Poklonskaya, this fragile but infinitely brave woman, risking her life, escaped from Kiev captured by the junta, and when the outcome of the Crimean confrontation was far from clear, she headed the firing position of prosecutor. And only when everything happened, when personal risks were minimized, in Crimea "In a white cloak with a bloody underlay" the winner of the Crimea Kurginyan appeared and, according to all the laws of the genre, he immediately convened a press conference, where he announced the “Kurginyan ст hundred thousandth rally”, an application for which was never filed, and which turned out to be part of government-organized rallies in support of Crimea throughout the country.

"Immortal regiment". The opinion of a person for whom the slogan “For faith, the king and the fatherland!” Is not an empty phrase


Very little time has passed, and at the most critical moment of the war in the Donbass Kurginyan again appears under heavy guard in Donetsk. Moreover, in addition to the "critics" of Strelkov, he heralds the introduction of a certain "new ideology" into Novorossia, which naturally did not appear due to the complete absence of this among Kurginyan himself. People went to the defense of Donbass, obeying the dictates of the heart, and each for himself then chose under what banner to fight him, Orthodox, communist, pagan, or any other. And the attempt to lead this already ongoing process, and with complete personal security, to subdue the various movements of Novorossia itself, has predictably ended in nothing. What is very characteristic, according to D. Dzygovbrodsky, Kurginyan in Kharkiv with the mediation of the mayor G. Kernes met with the right hand of Kolomoisky G. Korban, where the sum of 5 million dollars appeared. Moreover, unlike Donetsk, Kurginyan in Kharkov was without protection by a whole battalion. It was like home. What people then Kurginyan guarded in Donetsk? From the person to whom he came to introduce some kind of ideology?

The same happened with the "Immortal Regiment". The idea is so deep and civilizational that it is difficult to overestimate it. The idea of ​​national unification of Russia outside of any ideologies and religions. The idea of ​​unification based on patriotism, coming from above, from the president.

At the beginning of the 19 century, Russia also faced a crisis of national unifying ideas and youth education. Then Count S. Uvarov was able to formulate a triad adapted to that time. "Orthodoxy, autocracy, nationality". He considered it necessary to introduce into teaching "The Russian spirit is under the triple influence of Orthodoxy, autocracy and nationality, arousing in their minds respect for national history, for the national language, for domestic institutions."

“Without love for the faith of the ancestors, the people, like the private man, must perish; to weaken their faith is the same thing as depriving them of their blood and tearing out their heart. It would prepare them a lower degree in moral and political mission. "


At the same time, the main slogan of Russia was formed. "For faith, the king and the fatherland". Under this slogan many citizens of Russia, Orthodox, Muslims, Jews, Catholics, and atheists fought. And although the faith of all was different, but the fatherland and the kings are one, common. It was the embodiment of the imperial unifying idea of ​​Russia. Today, with an obvious crisis of ideology and ideas, Russia began to need a new imperial unifying idea. And the “Immortal Regiment”, by design, became the “first sign” of uniting Russians under the ideas of patriotism, love for their history, Fatherland, their ancestors, trials and victories. The Immortal Regiment was the prelude to the adaptation of the Uvarov triad to the conditions of modern Russia.

But here Kurginyan again appears and tries to privatize the idea of ​​the "Immortal Regiment", setting its own rules. Who, how, with what should go, how to interpret the rules for the participants, who is worthy and who is not.

Here N. Poklonskaya at the request of a veteran came to the "Regiment" with icon Nicholas II. And it started: she violated all the rules, she had no right to do it, she is a supporter of Nicholas, she is an agent provocateur, down with the Poklonskaya, etc. The initiator of this baiting Kurginyan appeared, and the rest just picked her up.

So let's see, and what criminal did N. Poklonskaya? She came with an icon. And I came with a pectoral cross. For the Orthodox, walking with an icon and a cross is natural. She did not come with a portrait of Nicholas II or an imperial flag. She came with the most precious for her icon.

In the icon there is no political or other than personal content. Surely there were people in the procession in T-shirts with various non-political symbolism and portraits from Michael Jackson to V. Putin. So what?

They began to reproach Poklonskaya that Nicholas II was not her relative. I saw people with portraits of Stalin. I believe that the portrait of Stalin is very appropriate on the "Immortal Regiment", although the people who carried them are also not relatives of Stalin. Moreover, I believe that the portraits of all our commanders, for example, A. Nevsky, D. Donskoy, Admiral Ushakov, Count Suvorov, etc., are also relevant to this procession. Although many of them, like Nicholas II, are also canonized by the Russian Orthodox Church. We should not forget that we also had the World War 1812 of the year, where there were also hundreds of thousands of defenders of the Fatherland, and it would not hurt anyone to remember about them either.

Selectively depriving us of our ancestors, some "politicians" want to deprive us of our history, to make us "Ivanas, kinship not remembering", the crowd, which can be controlled with the help of certain information and other technologies.

Moreover, among the Kurginians and the Communists, their “primacy” in the idea is intertwined with the right to interpret the rules of the “Immortal Regiment”. I entered into polemics in them and asked why banners with Lenin, communist flags and symbols carried in various cities even some governors, are not a violation of the rules and provocations, and the icon, which carried N. Poklonskaya, is. In addition to instant massive insults, I received a simply enchanting answer:



It does not matter that Lenin advocated the defeat of Russia in the First World War. And he didn’t just act, but did everything possible from him so that as many people as possible died on the front, the peasants were starving in the rear, and Russia was defeated and collapsed. He, it turns out, is the place in the "Immortal Regiment."

So, who is “bad” and who is “good”, who is worthy and who is not worthy, now the sutevtsy, or rather their god, will decide. And it will be their legal right. You know, this kind of logic reminds me a lot of the “logic” of particularly stubborn ukrov. They, too, first here are such arguments, and then mass insults and swearing.

Poklonskaya did not respond to this information campaign. She did not even apply her power to violators of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation in numerous articles and comments, where an official of the Russian Federation, the prosecutor of the Crimea, had openly insulted very unsuitable way. She just did not notice it. I understand her as a simple Orthodox woman. But I absolutely do not understand her, as a high-ranking official of the Russian Federation, the prosecutor of the Crimea, who should ensure compliance with the law.

In general, unlike various zombie sectarians, Orthodox people try to be calm, consistent and factual in their polemics. After all, behind their backs is not only a firm conviction that they are right, but also such incomprehensible things to atheists, like the truth and God.
When in the soul there is no faith and conviction that they are right, then such insults, anger, desire to tear, humiliate, destroy the dissenter are born in people. All these "qualities" are abundantly present in Kurginyan supporters. After all, what can he offer them in return for that high, many not understandable, irrational, that everyone has in his soul? If this is not faith in God, then this is only a mystic. In the form of various mysteries and strange beautiful rites "Red metaphysics" where he himself acts as the chief priest.



Any sacrament is a connection with the dead. Building a crossing over the River Styx, so to speak.

Sacraments are simple and complex. The simplest sacrament is visiting the graves, laying wreaths. I do not want to devalue such ordinances. But if the whole experience of building ferries comes down to this, forget about new big projects. There are not and cannot be large projects without extensive liturgies that provide an ascent to a new understanding.


Source: http://gazeta.eot.su/article/pochinka-vremeni-0.

Although all these mysteries and “unity with the dead” were invented by various sects of antiquity, they are now used by modern pseudo-Christian sects, in particular Mormons, Kurginyan, in all likelihood, it is absolutely not confused. Because it is simply impossible to keep the herd by other means.

As this all reminds attempts of supporters of Trotsky in the 20-ies "to revive and gain control over the dead", which took place at the Institute of Labor. The desire to be like Trotsky after the tragedy of Russia of the beginning of the 20 century, in the 21 century necessarily will turn into a farce.

If you consider what happened in the information space on Victory Day with a simple “people's indignation” by the act of N. Poklonskaya, then you are deeply mistaken. The Essence of Time and their masters have a whole plan to discredit Orthodoxy, autocracy and the “Russian world.” The next “victim” has already been chosen and the first stupid and clumsy attempts have already begun.

Admire: Infernalism and Victory Day. It would seem, what have Mikhalkov?

And it’s not even the whole understandable perverted attempt to tie Nikita Mikhalkov personally to certain “creative” attempts of a certain girl to paint on the glass with the dust of her grandfather. If desired, I can much more elegantly, more convincingly and more logically bind anyone to the furnaces of Majdanek, Babiy Yar or Khatyn and name an article, for example, "It would seem, what have Kurginyan?" Or Kirill Sobolev, or someone else.

First, I just hate doing it. Any Orthodox person is disgusted to do this. Any person by definition is disgusted to do that.

Secondly, why? To act with their methods is to become like them, to become like them.

For a man, truth, confidence and faith always stand behind him. The Russian people in the genes desire for justice and truth, as well as the ability to give life to it, as well as "For the faith, the king and the fatherland!" And no information technology and viruses will be able to push the Russian people to the mistakes of a hundred years ago. Times have changed, and we are with them.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 May 2016 10: 03
    +21
    And what, all the same article?
    Everything is heaped together. What did the author want? Do not understand.
    1. jjj
      jjj 26 May 2016 10: 11
      +11
      For Mussolini, the young men wore black shirts; for Schiklgruber, they wore brown. Kurginyan stopped at the Reds
      1. Vend
        Vend 26 May 2016 10: 25
        +31
        It is time to stop dividing on before the riot 1917 of the year and after. We are Russian, Russia is our homeland. The history of Russia is our history
        1. Inok10
          Inok10 26 May 2016 12: 38
          +8
          Quote: Wend
          It is time to stop dividing on before the riot 1917 of the year and after. We are Russian, Russia is our homeland. The history of Russia is our history

          ... absolutely true ... and the history of Russia does not begin in October 1917 ... and the USSR is not equal to the Communists ... one must honor and respect its own history ... and the main thing is to understand that Russia has a "civilized Europe" the form of a socio-economic structure, be it autocracy, socialism, current capitalism ... not satisfied in any way ... so far what thread False Dmitry and Gorbachev are not in power ... so far we have no Time of Troubles, Civil War and devastation ... I liked the article, it just writes about continuity, not dividing into social economic structure ... from Alexander Nevsky to Berlin in 1945 ... hi
          1. gladcu2
            gladcu2 26 May 2016 19: 35
            +1
            Inok10

            1917 is a revolution. Revolution is a change in the social system. With a different social system, another state. The state is characterized first by a different level of consciousness of citizens, by a different morality, as a system of mutual understanding and survival. Therefore, before 17 and after the country is one, but the mentality of citizens is different.
        2. kvarfax
          kvarfax 26 May 2016 23: 19
          +1
          Quote: Wend
          It is time to stop dividing on before the riot 1917 of the year and after. We are Russian, Russia is our homeland. The history of Russia is our history

          Totally agree with you. Oddly enough, I understood your idea and agreed completely. Russia always differed in that the rulers were responsible, and not just rights. As for the attacks on the icon at the procession .... all this is more like an attempt to disconnect us where we have become one.
          Why do people go to the Immortal Regiment? In order to honor the memory of their ancestors, but not only their own! Generally ancestors! It is not for nothing that they urge to go there even if there are no relatives (or like me, I simply do not know them). And it is right. That's right when something brings people together. But the attempts to disconnect are not very beautiful.
          They may not understand me, but in one book there was such a mention. The boy jumped into the bow of the ship, for which he was immediately scolded. They say that only the captain has the right to do this. To which they were answered. That when true heroes stood on their nose, they would not have scolded the boy. But rather encouraged for courage and courage. Because they understood the spirit of tradition. Not her letter. So it is here. People do not understand the spirit of the Immortal Regiment. They see it in their own way, but from something in a destructive manner. And it makes me sad.
      2. Lieutenant Izhe
        Lieutenant Izhe 26 May 2016 11: 36
        +2
        pro-Kremlin political PEDERAST kurginyan, with permanent foam at the mouth - annoyingly disgusting ...
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        2. RUSS
          RUSS 26 May 2016 12: 06
          +6
          Quote: Lieutenant Izhe
          pro-Kremlin political PEDERAST kurginyan, with permanent foam at the mouth - annoyingly disgusting ...

          Sergey Ervandovich Kurginyan -
          - a hysterical psychopath, who, like Goblin, realized that there are many nostalgic for the Union, etc., and even more patriots in the country, and if you become their ideological leader, you can have a sour profit from full political capital by increasing the prices of your analytical services for the elite.
          Like the others, he painstakingly hides where he takes money for life and creativity. But in disputes about the Middle East, he expresses sympathy for Iran and Israel at the same time. What is it for?
          In fact, Kurginyan is an ordinary opportunist who squeezes noodles of any sort on the ears of a gullible public, just to make a profit. During the discussion, the acting theater director does not disdain theatrical techniques, was repeatedly noticed in the total inability to discuss, to defend his point of view and even in the absence of this very point.
          At the end of the 80s he stood on the positions of anti-Stalinism, positively assessing perestroika and its gains. In former times, Kurginyan did not hide his enthusiasm for the political qualities of B.N. Yeltsin and even prophesied him a third term. In 1996, on behalf of a group of oligarchs (Khodorkovsky, Berezovsky, Friedman, etc.), he wrote the famous “Letter of 13” directed against the Communist Party and in support of the candidacy of Boris Yeltsin.
          1. gladcu2
            gladcu2 26 May 2016 19: 42
            -4
            RUSS

            Those. You have now criticized the positions of two people on the basis of nostalgia for the USSR. However, you did not express your position in relation to your country?

            Are you probably jerking?

            By the way, why do you have SS in your nickname? Some associations are not pleasant ...
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 26 May 2016 21: 37
              +4
              Quote: gladcu2
              By the way, why do you have SS in your nickname? Some associations are not pleasant ...

              Full nickname RUSS, not SS.
              Quote: gladcu2
              You have now criticized the positions of two people on the basis of nostalgia for the USSR. However, you did not express your position in relation to your country?

              The point is not in relation to the USSR, but in the fact that Kurginyan is an empty-chested and opportunist opportunist.
              Quote: gladcu2
              Are you probably jerking?

              No.
          2. Corporal Valera
            Corporal Valera 26 May 2016 20: 06
            -3
            Quote: RUSS
            if you become their ideological leader, you can have a sour profit

            This can be attributed to you to the same extent. Or are you a lossless tovarisch?
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 26 May 2016 21: 38
              +3
              Quote: Corporal Valera
              This can be attributed to you to the same extent.

              Yes? And how?
              Quote: Corporal Valera
              Or are you a lossless tovarisch?

              Rather yes than no.
              1. Corporal Valera
                Corporal Valera 26 May 2016 21: 46
                0
                Quote: RUSS
                Yes? And how?

                Similar. Become your thought leader.
                Quote: RUSS
                Rather yes than no.

                Well, at least you are interested in money? wink
              2. RUSS
                RUSS 26 May 2016 21: 50
                +4
                Continue.
                Foundation in Cyprus
                SUDDENLY it turns out that the patriotic Kurginyan has a patriotic offshore fund in Cyprus. The USRLE provided all the suffering with notarized screenshots, and make sure ... Information about the fund was known since February 2012, but received wide publicity only a year later thanks to Boris Nemtsov. At one of the congresses of kurginoids, Kurginyan himself admitted that, yes they say, there is a fund, and he has 30 euros in that Cyprus. But the most interesting thing in this story is that the “Cypriot” organization was included in the Russian Unified State Register of Legal Entities, which once again indicates the extraordinary mental abilities of the average Kurginyan network supporter, who seriously demonstrates that the NIFIG branch of the FUND is not related to the FUND itself. Losing drool and fairly confused in the testimony, the enraged Kurginyan filed a lawsuit in the Presnensky District Court, where he naturally lost to Nemtsov. Kurginyan’s own lawyers confirmed the inadequacy of his grandfather and suggested that the court “not trust the words of his client, saying that he could accidentally or deliberately mislead the audience.” laughing However, the You can see how everything happened by finding the video “Kurginyan in the rain” dated 01.04.2013/13.09.2013/XNUMX with the host, and then finding the video “Message from S. Kurginyan XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX”.
                Kurginyan is a public representative, a “talking head” of financial and industrial groups doing serious business in Russia in the field of sticking tanks, airplanes and other wunderwaffles, and their subsequent sale for hundreds of oil to both the banana republics and the Russian army. They are not interested in communism, nationalism, or any other isism, nor is Putin alone. They are extremely interested in political and economic stability, because in its absence any business associated with the production of high-tech products of dubious importance will die first, well, the course for confrontation with the United States is conducted only for the defense of state orders.
                In the political system that developed in the nineties and zero, the positions of the “defenders” are weak (unlike the liberal “bankers” and the gebist “oil workers”). Kurginyan, on the other hand, gathers masses of cattle who are pecking at rhetoric about socialism and social justice, and acts as a political battering ram for the subsequent forcing and lobbying in the power of the interests of the “defense industry” (see his statements about Serdyukov buying the Mistral, for example). That is, in case of coming to power, Kurginyan will assure that it is necessary to take fewer iPhone phones on credit and to work more and more diligently at the factory, believing in the Orthodox-Communist-nationalist supermodern.
                1. Corporal Valera
                  Corporal Valera 26 May 2016 22: 01
                  -1
                  Quote: RUSS
                  Continue.

                  Use the seashore laughing
                  About Putin can squeeze Ottudov?
                  Putin Vladimir Vladimirovich - The first after God, the famous interrogator of stabilization funds, a believing KGB officer

                  Let’s go further, otherwise I’m afraid of the FSB
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                  2. RUSS
                    RUSS 27 May 2016 11: 03
                    -1
                    Quote: Corporal Valera
                    Use the seashore

                    And not only:
                    TV Star, VGTRK, Rain, RBC, Life-News, Yandex News, Mail News, Military Review, official website of the Ministry of Defense, Foreign Media, etc.
                    Are you Kisileva on TV RUSSIA?
                    Quote: Corporal Valera
                    Let’s go further, otherwise I’m afraid of the FSB

                    Do not be afraid laughing
                    1. Corporal Valera
                      Corporal Valera 27 May 2016 12: 07
                      0
                      Quote: RUSS
                      Are you Kisileva on TV RUSSIA?

                      Apparently, you see Kiseleva:
                      Quote: RUSS
                      And not only:
                      TV Star, RTR...

                      By the way, search finds "your" comments only on Lukomorye. I didn't find it on Zvezda and the website of the Ministry of Defense request We must also check on the Rain. There must definitely be
          3. assam4
            assam4 27 May 2016 02: 08
            -1
            in the country there are many nostalgic for the Union

            Modern Europe is more socially fair than the post-Soviet space. Yes, there are homosexuals, but there are no more of them than for example in Moscow. I have many friends here, their children get married give birth to their children, in general, normal people. You can see refugees here but they behave calmly sometimes bicycles from the parking lots near the porches steal but these are trifles. For example, migrant workers in Russia are much more chaotic. In general, Europeans are friendlier and more polite than Russians. At present, Russia is a more bourgeois country than Germany, for example ...
            1. Corporal Valera
              Corporal Valera 27 May 2016 03: 31
              -1
              Quote: assam4
              Modern Europe is more socially fair than the post-Soviet space.

              Modern Europe is 28 different state-in, the post-Soviet space is 15 different now state-in. Who are you comparing with and what are the criteria?
              Quote: assam4
              Yes, there are homosexuals, but there are no more than for example in Moscow.

              Yes, they don’t go in parades.
              Quote: assam4
              For example, migrant workers in Russia are much more chaotic.

              Really? But I have not heard that here women are raped in broad daylight by dozens. But bicycles probably also steal. Not sure.
              Quote: assam4
              In general, Europeans are more friendly and polite compared to Russians

              Well, yes, they have a good showcase. And inside - such a rotten one.
              Quote: assam4
              . At present, Russia is a more bourgeois country than, for example, Germany ...

              What is your rating on this scale? Like we have more owners of factories, newspapers, ships? But is Germany already slipping back to feudalism? Hello europe
    2. Sharapov
      Sharapov 26 May 2016 10: 37
      +2
      I agree, the author created the mess, having touched many historical characters, while still having the feeling of reading a pseudo-scientific draft candidate's dissertation.
      1. larand
        larand 26 May 2016 11: 38
        +6
        Quote: Sharapov
        I agree, the author created the mess, having touched many historical characters, while still having the feeling of reading a pseudo-scientific draft candidate's dissertation.

        The author has sheer babble and kingly love. Only the author for some reason kept silent about the centuries-old serfdom under the "priest-kings". About the playing of entire villages at cards by loyal nobles. About flogging soldiers with ramrods. About senseless and bloody wars of Nicholas II. On the courtiers and foreigners who govern the Russian tsars. And so just a popular short article in defense of Poklonskaya. Maybe write her down as a saint too?
        1. Corporal Valera
          Corporal Valera 26 May 2016 19: 34
          +1
          But I wonder, the author stands for the restoration of autocracy, so the institution of the nobility must be restored? I, in principle, agree, only write me down in the nobles. I can be a prince. Well, you need to think about souls. A hundred pieces will be enough for a start. The truth is not convenient if the author gets into my yard, but I promise that I will be a good master.
          PS And what monarchists now can not be called monarchists? But as? Is the autocrat or autocrat right?
    3. 3 Gorynych
      3 Gorynych 26 May 2016 10: 38
      +1
      Similarly chef! As in the cartoon - I did not understand why the author ... both ours and yours!
    4. Hlavaty
      Hlavaty 26 May 2016 11: 24
      +7
      An article that the author-representative of one socio-political movement does not like another movement. And the author is trying to justify his dislike as he knows how. But he knows how to do it badly - he gets confused in the facts, gives quotes that can work against him. For example:

      “Without love for the faith of the ancestors, the people, like the private man, must perish; to weaken their faith is the same thing as depriving them of their blood and tearing out their heart. It would prepare them a lower degree in moral and political mission. "


      Paganism may well claim the status of "ancestral faith" (at least it did not come from another people and in paganism they do not offer weekly prayers for the "people of Israel" as is done in Orthodox churches).
      And Christianization can be seen as an attempt to "weaken their faith - the same as to deprive them of their blood and rip out their heart."

      Well, odes to Nikolai 2, who
      not educated to be a sovereign and not having received the necessary skills
      did take over the empire and successfully ruined it, for whose "lack of good manners to be a sovereign" paid with the lives of tens of millions of his subjects ... It would be better if the author limited himself to Alexander 3.

      In general, the author is trying to drown his opponents and drowns his supporters.
      1. kyznets
        kyznets 26 May 2016 15: 40
        +2
        Mr. Hlavaty, you at least superficially familiarize yourself with what happens WEEKLY in Orthodox churches and what Orthodox believers pray for in churches. And then you try to criticize, you yourself write absolute nonsense. For Russians, Orthodoxy has been the faith of their ancestors for more than 1000 years. And the faith of the ancestors was pagan cults, but among other peoples, including the aborigines of Siberia, the north, the Far East. You also "responsibly" expressed your opinion about Emperor Nicholas II, having an idea on this issue from newspapers and Soviet propaganda. Start reading non-fiction books. Ask those who understand the issue. Just for the sake of interest, look completely from beginning to end what happens in an Orthodox church at Sunday liturgy. It only takes about two hours. People there pray for Russia and its people, for the army, for the living, for the sick and for the departed Orthodox people, and at every liturgy for peace in Ukraine. And this is more than once a week.
        1. Basil50
          Basil50 26 May 2016 15: 52
          -4
          Kuznet.
          Your thesis about the millennium of universal Christianity Rusi nonsense. Christianization took place only under the Romanovs, under Ivan the Terrible, there were streets in the cities with adherents of other faiths. After Romanization, all * non-Christian * districts and streets disappeared from the cities of RUSI. AND ORTHODOXY IS NOT CHRISTIANITY. Only in 1943, the church appropriated the title of ORTHODOX, before that the name of the church was that it is * Greek-Catholic orthodox *.
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          2. RUSS
            RUSS 26 May 2016 16: 02
            +5
            [
            Quote: Vasily50
            Kuznet, your thesis about the millennium of Christianity Rusi nonsense.

            The 1000th anniversary of the baptism of Rus - events held in the USSR in June 1988, dedicated to the 1000th anniversary of the adoption of Christianity in Russia under Prince Vladimir Svyatoslavich in 988.
            Based on this, in Russia Christianity is more than 1000 years old.
            1. Basil50
              Basil50 26 May 2016 16: 22
              -2
              RUSSIA.
              So you never know what they celebrated and where the money * shoved *. Historical events have already occurred and it is impossible to deny a fait accompli, it is only possible to change opinions. So Vladimir was truly worthy of holiness: an oath-apostate, a killer of brothers, a robber, a mercenary. Moreover, he * baptized * so bloody that there are few historical events comparable in number of victims with * Christianization *, perhaps only the Tatar invasion. If he missed anything in his holy deeds, it was only because of a lack of space.
              1. Basil50
                Basil50 27 May 2016 23: 33
                -1
                Noble appearance or outright stupidity, instead of historical facts, or even an attempt to judge. How many lies from * believers *, all of you are never ashamed of acts in the name of the church or in the name of God. You climb into moralists too. First deal with your internal problems. The church and the faithful are best described * Gavriliada * AS PUSHKINA.
                In the history of our MOTHERLAND, the church has spoiled so much that if something positive happens, it simply swells indecently. And they still can’t deny that ORTHODOX was arrogantly and shamelessly appropriated in 1943, and before that there was * a Greek Catholic orthodox *. And according to St. Vladimir, it is impossible to find at least something positive for Russia.
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          3. heaps
            heaps 26 May 2016 22: 46
            +1
            Young man, you are talking nonsense. You were told to go to the temple, listen, read. And the church was not "Greek Catholic", but "Greek-Catholic", this is a very, very big difference. It's like "Jesus" and "Jesus", it sounds the same, but in fact they are absolutely distant names.
        2. Hlavaty
          Hlavaty 26 May 2016 17: 04
          +1

          Quote: kyznets
          You at least look superficially


          Well, why superficial ...

          Christ said:
          I am sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matt. 15: 24).

          And He sent His disciples to the sermon with parting words:
          5 Do not go on the path to the Gentiles, and do not enter the city of Samaryan; 6 a go first to the fallen sheep of the house of Israel (Matt. 10: 5-6).

          Quote: kyznets
          what happens in an Orthodox church at the Sunday liturgy.

          "THE DIVINE LITURGY OF OUR HOLY FATHER JOHN ZLATOUST":
          For you, our Lord God, alone rule over all that is celestial and earthly, - you, on the throne of Cherubic wearer, are the seraphim Lord and King of israel

          You can go on for a long time, only Christians in this place become deaf or tell that Christ called all Christians "the people of Israel". Well, or something like that

          Quote: kyznets
          For Russians, Orthodoxy has been the faith of ancestors for more than 1000 years.

          And before that, 5500 years had a different faith. Let me remind you that the current chronology was introduced by Peter 1, when the Russians had 7208 on the calendars the year of the creation of the world


          Quote: kyznets
          You also "responsibly" expressed your opinion about Emperor Nicholas II

          Is that all you can say in defense of Nicholas 2? Not much...
          I affirm that he was a worthless ruler who killed both his family and his empire and tens of millions of his subjects. Can you refute the facts on hand?
          1. heaps
            heaps 26 May 2016 22: 50
            0
            Tell me, was Gaddafi also a worthless ruler? And Milosevic? They also stupidly shaved their countries? This people stupidly crap. For the crowd is crazy and easily controlled like a herd of sheep.
            1. Hlavaty
              Hlavaty 27 May 2016 09: 21
              0
              Quote: heaps
              Tell me, was Gaddafi also a worthless ruler? And Milosevic?


              Yes. How did Christ teach to evaluate? By the fruits.
              Gaddafi corrupted his people with material lags and did not engage in the spiritual education of the people. And there are always few material benefits, and there is always an uncle from the side who promises more "cookies".
              Milosevic also did not care about the spiritual development of the peoples of Yugoslavia. This is evident from the rapture with which these peoples rushed to slaughter each other, and still cannot stop.

              Quote: heaps
              This people stupidly crap. For the crowd is crazy and easily controlled like a herd of sheep.


              You have a logic problem. Let's think through a few steps:
              To something about., You must first create something! That which will be swept later. Who creates it? The same crowd? So she is not crazy if she is able to create.
              If the crowd first creates, and then lathers what was created, then this does not mean that it is crazy. Rather, it can be assumed that the crowd is bondage. That it is not she who decides when to build, but when to shit. So the responsibility lies with those who make such decisions.

              And this idea, which you put forward here, that the people are to blame for everything, and the rulers are white and fluffy, is promoted by the liberal media and ideologists with one simple goal.
              If the people are guilty, then the rulers are innocent. A MEANS RELIABLE!

              At the Nuremberg trial, for some reason, it was not the German people who were judged, but specific rulers.
              1. heaps
                heaps 27 May 2016 09: 42
                +2
                You again begin to carry illogical nonsense. Do you even know what happened in Yugoslavia, Libya? Both here and there, most of the people supported their leaders, but could not resist external intervention. And to blame only the leader for everything is silly and childish. Dad did not buy me a typewriter like a neighbor's boy and I will leave the house in revenge. Something like this. The crowd condemned Christ to death, who is Pilate to blame? I repeat again - "The suite makes the king."
                1. Hlavaty
                  Hlavaty 27 May 2016 10: 21
                  0
                  As long as there are "innocent kings", impunity will flourish.

                  And by the way, about Pilate. Yes - to blame. If you are a ruler, rule the crowd. And if the crowd rules you, then you are a worthless ruler. There was nothing to climb into rulers.

                  But have Christians justified Pilate? Already consider him innocent? laughing
          2. kyznets
            kyznets 27 May 2016 06: 06
            +4
            Yes, we are not deaf, but simply do not see the point in arguing with you. Do you expect me to read and explain the whole Gospel and the Apostle to you? They pulled the lines out of context, and the meaning was turned over. Where is the prayer for Israel here? IN THE SERVICE REFERRED TO IN CONTEXT Israel. You are referring to 7208 from the creation of the world, so this year is from the creation according to the BIBLE. Peter did not change the religion, but the countdown, but within the framework of the same Orthodoxy that you hate so much, the faith of OUR ancestors with you, unless of course your ancestors were Jews, Muslims or Buddhists, or shamanists. I have nothing against these religions and people who profess them. By the way, how deeply are you going to seek the faith of your ancestors, why not earlier than your 5500 years (where, by the way, is such a figure?). And by the way, I can refute your statements with the facts. But it is necessary to speak the same language with a person. Have you read the entire Gospel, and "THE DIVINE LITURGY OF OUR HOLY FATHER JOHN CHILATOUS"? Not in pieces and excerpts, but completely. Do you have any idea what the "Good News" is? Jesus said, "There is no Jew, no Greek!", This is in the Gospel that you refer to. And he got drunk at the Samaritan woman and taught the Samaritans, and he told the parable about the good Samaritan. Read the primary sources, the Gospel, the Apostle, Mr. Hlavaty, go to church, choose an Orthodox believer who inspires confidence in you and talk to him, without aggression, without haste. Understand the basics of the Orthodox faith, in its history, please. You will be very surprised when you figure it out yourself.
            1. Hlavaty
              Hlavaty 27 May 2016 09: 27
              -1
              Quote: kyznets
              Yes, we are not deaf, but simply do not see any reason to argue with you.

              Quote: kyznets
              go to church, choose a person of the Orthodox believer who inspires confidence and talk to him,


              Yes, I see: there is no point in arguing "we", we'd better send you. Typically Christian congress with the topic.
    5. dr. sem
      dr. sem 26 May 2016 12: 42
      +1
      aszzz888 (1) RU Today, 10:03 AM New
      And what, all the same article?
      Everything is heaped together. What did the author want? Do not understand.

      Yes, just everything. Both the state and the people in it are disoriented, the mind is lazy ... with undisguised propaganda of a "different vector" orientation (x..r understand that it is true, that it is a lie), more simply, with "white noise" ... There is no generally accepted system of indisputable values, that is ... ideology ... So we see a picture of "rushing minds", "zombies", "cunning planners", "witnesses of the GDP", "uryapadriots", "all the scammers", "cunningly ... sheep", etc. ...
    6. yehat
      yehat 26 May 2016 16: 15
      +5
      dense derby verbiage.
      I did not understand anything. nothing about the article, nor what the author sought
      on the other hand, I saw an obvious lie and russobob distortion - from the name of the tsar "Nikolashka" to the interpretation of history.
      firstly, no matter how negatively they treated Nikolai-2, he was no worse than very, very many.
      Therefore, I do not support his frankly mocking naming, although I have a negative attitude towards him.
      Secondly, as I recall, one of Louis in France was overthrown and killed just because he behaved in the style attributed to the Russian tsars.
      Thirdly, the author would have studied history better than crammed names. Maybe then there would be more sense. Because he does not understand banal things.
      1. Basil50
        Basil50 27 May 2016 07: 39
        +1
        The arrogance and impudence of the church and its followers simply has no boundaries. If you have everything divine, then why do all Christians dog, you yourself will decide among themselves who is right. And with your * scriptures * decide what to call and what was * the word of God * and what is the commentary on the words. Some * Christians * carry out the rite * of baptism * in a new fashion in cemeteries, above the dead; others require worship of the divine embodiment on earth; others insult people and ancestors, while they themselves live at their own expense.
        What is most indignant is that they spoil people and ask for forgiveness from God, and of course they receive forgiveness, and again with a clear conscience
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 27 May 2016 11: 50
          0
          That's what most of all resents so that they spoil people and ask forgiveness from God, and of course they receive forgiveness, and again with a clear conscience

          So maybe only a small child with a pure soul can say.
          I’ll explain to you that you are still an adult. It’s because if they ask for forgiveness from God, it’s just because you have to shit others and why you are so sure that you are forgiven.
  2. AID.S
    AID.S 26 May 2016 10: 07
    +25
    "Can you imagine that in Russia the people of their tsars endowed with such nicknames? The most widespread address to the tsar in Russia was" tsar-father "."
    And the "Palkin", and the "Bloody" - and the structure fell down. The author built his own little world, well, and promotes it. Not violent, well, thank God.
    1. lukke
      lukke 26 May 2016 10: 51
      +10
      The most common appeal to the tsar in Russia was the "tsar-father".
      Yeah, the latter was affectionately and respectfully called, at best, simply "Nikolashka". And I really do not understand his "feat" - to profuse the Country in a matter of years .... this must be able to and I will note to all critics - at the time of the reign of Nicholas II, the international and internal situation was no worse than during the reign of other monarchs (we do not take turmoil in Russia into account).
      1. heaps
        heaps 26 May 2016 11: 09
        +1
        Well called kurginyanovets nikolashka. The first time I heard this nickname from them. And to associate them with the whole nation is not necessary.
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 26 May 2016 11: 18
          +9
          No, the first people to call the Tsar like that were liberal pre-revolutionary zhurnalyugi, with the filing of their eternal patrons - German and English benefactors.
    2. heaps
      heaps 26 May 2016 11: 10
      -2
      And who is "Palkin"?
      1. AID.S
        AID.S 26 May 2016 11: 20
        +4
        Quote: heaps
        And who is "Palkin"?

        Nikolay I.
        1. Weyland
          Weyland 26 May 2016 21: 14
          0
          Quote: AID.S
          Nikolay I.


          But he, too, was called so not by the people, but by Leo Tolstoy!
        2. Weyland
          Weyland 26 May 2016 21: 14
          0
          Quote: AID.S
          Nikolay I.


          But he, too, was called so not by the people, but by Leo Tolstoy!
    3. alicante11
      alicante11 26 May 2016 11: 54
      +5
      The author of Ishimova's tales has read. The history of Russia for children, there are also all the kings - darling donuts, already disgusting.
  3. Vovan 73
    Vovan 73 26 May 2016 10: 09
    +3
    author, you like to be gallop-be it. Only quietly, inside yourself and do not impose it on others. God forbid (it’s just a speech turn, since I personally am an atheist) in Russia they will restore the autocracy or the monarchy (no difference) personally, if I’m still able to do something at that time, I’ll find a way to throw a grenade in the new king
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 26 May 2016 10: 26
      +7
      So, after all, the author does not impose anything on others that you are so worried.
      .... I will find a way to throw a grenade at the new king ...Why say such nonsense?
    2. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 26 May 2016 10: 34
      +7
      Dear Vovan 73. Holop is written with "o" .. Further, what is not autocracy now? I am not about Putin, he is a hired worker. But it was not we who hired him (although he occupies the first line in the elections), but a group of people holding finances, and therefore everything else in the country. Vovan, will you throw a grenade at these people? After all, it is they who are robbing the country, they do not pay a decent salary to ordinary workers, they appoint themselves millions of salaries and judge themselves as they want. Well, maybe they are not "Palkins "and" Bloody "- by the way, these nicknames were not given to Alexander and Nicholas by the people, they were Socialist-Revolutionaries, Bolsheviks. I didn’t notice the hard workers there ..
      Quote: Vova 73
      author, you like to be gallop-be it. Only quietly, inside yourself and do not impose it on others. God forbid (it’s just a speech turn, since I personally am an atheist) in Russia they will restore the autocracy or the monarchy (no difference) personally, if I’m still able to do something at that time, I’ll find a way to throw a grenade in the new king
      1. AID.S
        AID.S 26 May 2016 11: 23
        +6
        Quote: dmi.pris
        "Palkins" and "Bloody" - by the way, these nicknames were not given to Alexander and Nicholas by the people, they were Socialist-Revolutionaries, Bolsheviks.

        laughing But did the Bolsheviks also call Peter the Great the Antichrist?
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 26 May 2016 11: 43
          +1
          Evil languages ​​call Peter I the first Bolshevik, the second were the Decembrists, and Lenin and comrades were only the third.
        2. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 26 May 2016 16: 59
          +1
          The Old Believers hung it on him ..
          Quote: AID.S
          Quote: dmi.pris
          "Palkins" and "Bloody" - by the way, these nicknames were not given to Alexander and Nicholas by the people, they were Socialist-Revolutionaries, Bolsheviks.

          laughing But did the Bolsheviks also call Peter the Great the Antichrist?
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    4. Sergey Medvedev
      Sergey Medvedev 26 May 2016 12: 14
      +7
      Quote: Vovan 73
      I will find a way in the new king to throw a grenade


      Better throw a grenade at Chubais. Now it is more relevant.
      1. Altona
        Altona 26 May 2016 14: 30
        +4
        Quote: Sergei Medvedev
        Better throw a grenade at Chubais. Now it is more relevant.

        -------------------------
        Articles of this kind speak of mistrust in the system of government as a whole. Even despite the notorious 146% for United Russia and 87% for Putin. Still, under Soviet power, the system was more perfect, and there were fewer officials without computers than now. There was quite a clear delegation of functions down and up. There was a demand for the "well-being" of the regions, providing people with housing, work and social and cultural life. The system of government was continuous with developed horizontal ties of people's self-government. Although it had a number of shortcomings, it was not the same as it is now. All the "boyars" rallied around the "vertical of power" and only "sucks" out of the country, the liberal camp, both left and right in power, seeks to shatter this "vertical". "People's" thinkers, like the author of the article, are busy looking for a "just tsar" and a "sovereign idea" in order to overcome the crisis of governance, which is already clearly visible. For everything seems to be done "according to the May decrees of the President," but it is a form of mockery. To raise the rates for doctors, hospitals are being cut. To increase the space in kindergartens, nursery groups are being removed. In order to "increase" salaries, they take the most paltry salaries in the region. That's the whole problem. The laying on of the crown and chrismation of the problem of ruling Russia will not solve, but simply throw off all responsibility on one person, as if it will give something in the end. We have a deficit of responsibility for the assigned task and paralysis of power in many areas. And we are talking about the "new autocracy".
    5. BSrazvedka
      BSrazvedka 26 May 2016 19: 25
      +3
      Quote: Vovan 73
      God forbid (this is just a speech revolution, since I personally am an atheist) in Russia they will restore the autocracy or the monarchy (no difference)

      As one classic said: "There has been an elementary substitution of concepts." Autocracy and monarchy are not the same thing at all. If you look into Dahl's explanatory dictionary, you can read very interesting things. In particular, an autocrat is a sole ruler who pays no tribute to anyone. Hence it follows that autocracy is a Russian synonym and analogue of the English word "sovereignty". Think carefully before throwing a bomb at your tsar with a cry, “Down with the autocracy!” The king, figuratively speaking, first of all, should be in the head.
  4. Cossack Ermak
    Cossack Ermak 26 May 2016 10: 10
    +14
    It's my opinion. But only Tsar Nikolai the second is to blame for the collapse of Russia. Only this fucking autocrat is to blame that the state fell apart. There is no need to hang snot, rank it among the saints and the like. He is responsible that the brother went to his brother in Russia. Everything was in his hands. And this bastard preferred to wet cats on walks, and not engage in public affairs.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 26 May 2016 10: 27
      +5
      Quote: Cossack Ermak
      But only Tsar Nikolai the second is to blame for the collapse of Russia.

      And those bourgeois circles who organized the removal of Nicholas II from power and wished to "steer" Russia are not to blame? Those who threw slogans into the crowd such as: "in the struggle you will acquire your right" or "proletarians of all countries - unite", are they also not to blame?
      1. Cossack Ermak
        Cossack Ermak 26 May 2016 10: 52
        0
        The secret police minister (didn’t remember the name, you can google) back in 1905, proposed to press the bourgeois Jewish elite. To make them responsible for financing Jewish revolutionary organizations. I’m sure that if the Tsar listened to smart people, and didn’t wet cats in the parks by dozens, there were no revolutions in Russia.
    2. bober1982
      bober1982 26 May 2016 10: 29
      +5
      And this bastard preferred to wet cats on walks ....
      In short, choked, choked ... (cats), it is strange that you did not mention the raven.
    3. heaps
      heaps 26 May 2016 11: 07
      +8
      Throughout the history of the existence of Russia, there have been a huge number of civil conflicts. The principalities fought with each other, the Pugachevites, the Razintsy, etc. So the chapters were to blame too? In my opinion, this is from the category, as it is now in Ukraine, Yanyk is to blame. Neither foreign special services in synergy with the Ukrainian ones, nor Yanukovych's entourage (almost completely remaining in power), nor the army (which decided to destroy its people for money), nor the oligarchs who had a gesheft, nor the media who love to eat deliciously, nor the people (half of whom supported the Maidan). And only Yanyk. It's sad to read you. Nicholas II was displaced by the choking top, his entourage, who wanted to live in a new way. And later they killed the burr. In fact, he was given the same Maidan. And is he now to blame? How awesome it is to judge what you can't even understand and try on yourself. Understand one thing, history is cyclical, everything repeats itself with enviable regularity. And there is a rule - "If the technique works, then why change it."
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 26 May 2016 11: 35
        +5
        Nicholas ll got a rich country. What did he do with it? What did he bring to it?
        Everything in the article is "horses, people mixed together".
        IF he (Nikolayll) was the "Anointed of God", responsible for everyone, then to him and the wishes of action
      2. Nehist
        Nehist 26 May 2016 11: 43
        0
        And who do you think if not him? He dismissed everyone who led his father Alexander3 !!! But he did not exchange for slobbery liberalism and radically crushed all sorts of liberal-revolutionary ideas
      3. Hlavaty
        Hlavaty 26 May 2016 17: 26
        +1
        Quote: heaps
        Nicholas II was replaced by the snickering top, his entourage, who wanted to live in the P-new. And later burry was killed. In fact, they gave him the same Maidan. And is he now to blame?


        And what not ????? !!!!!
  5. A-Sim
    A-Sim 26 May 2016 10: 10
    +5
    As still, there are few people today with intelligible convictions inherent in themselves, who have suffered and understood them personally. Adherents of something completely confused by the logic of history and the class struggle.
  6. demo
    demo 26 May 2016 10: 21
    +4
    Really.
    They mixed, ice and fire ......

    And for the information of the author.
    Capitalize the word God with a capital letter, for it is a proper name.
    Like the name Alexander.
    1. Basil50
      Basil50 26 May 2016 15: 48
      +2
      There have been a lot of gods and worshipers in the history of mankind, and everyone has a name, and some have specialization by occupation.
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  7. aiiganty
    aiiganty 26 May 2016 10: 21
    +10
    The main question with the autocracy is how its return will accelerate the modernization of the country and save it from a split in society on the basis of property? And what will happen to the oligarchy, what will be the form of ownership of natural monopolies ...
    1. Altona
      Altona 26 May 2016 10: 30
      +10
      Quote: aiiganty
      The main question with the autocracy is how its return will accelerate the modernization of the country and save it from a split in society on the basis of property? And what will happen to the oligarchy, what will be the form of ownership of natural monopolies ...

      ---------------------
      An archival question, my friend, and an archly necessary one. The magic pendulum of modernization may not work, but the existence of monarchists-sovereigns in this case will become more meaningful. In any case, balls in the Winter Palace will resume, and officer swords, epaulettes and uniforms embroidered with braids will be issued again. The brilliant nobility will sing "Glory" and salute, holding the quivering ladies by the waists.
      1. excomandante
        excomandante 26 May 2016 10: 34
        +7
        And finally the "monarchists" will have the meaning of life - the crunch of a French roll!
      2. Gray brother
        Gray brother 26 May 2016 11: 04
        +4
        Quote: Altona
        An archival question, my friend, and an archly necessary one. The magic pendulum of modernization may not work, but the existence of monarchists-sovereigns in this case will become more meaningful. In any case, balls in the Winter Palace will resume, and officer swords, epaulettes and uniforms embroidered with braids will be issued again. The brilliant nobility will sing "Glory" and salute, holding the quivering ladies by the waists.
        good

        And then opa - and in the belly bayonet. And they don’t even understand why.
        1. heaps
          heaps 26 May 2016 11: 13
          +5
          Oh, why don’t you stick a bayonet for oligarchs, or are they so dear to you?
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother 26 May 2016 13: 12
            0
            Quote: heaps
            Oh, why don’t you stick a bayonet for oligarchs, or are they so dear to you?

            I don’t care for them. By the way, they don’t climb into kings and don’t really shine at all - this prevents the increase of capital.
            And I don’t need to poke, Mr. heap.
            1. heaps
              heaps 26 May 2016 13: 34
              +1
              Why are you saying that you say that the system of oligarchocracy does not exist? You do not care for the oligarchs. I can make you happy, all do not care for you. And this is a modern system of human relationships. Everyone does not care, but either Putin, or Yanukovych, or Nicholas II is to blame. Look in the mirror, more closely, and then begin to circle everyone around.
              1. Gray brother
                Gray brother 26 May 2016 14: 12
                +1
                Quote: heaps
                Why are you saying that you say that the system of oligarchocracy does not exist?

                Exist. In Russia, the oligarchs ruled under Yeltsin, and in Ukraine, the president-oligarch in general.
                . Look in the mirror, more closely, and then begin to circle everyone around.

                I have nothing to reproach myself with.
          2. assam4
            assam4 27 May 2016 01: 46
            0
            Well, they are the most devoted patriots of Russia.
    2. Verdun
      Verdun 26 May 2016 10: 58
      +1
      Quote: aiiganty
      And what will happen to the oligarchy,

      You just don’t understand. The oligarchy is the future nobility, the foundation of the new Russian autocracy. Hence the form of ownership - neo-feudal.
    3. BSrazvedka
      BSrazvedka 26 May 2016 19: 55
      0
      Quote: aiiganty
      what will be the form of ownership of natural monopolies ...

      This property is likely to become a sovereign. That is, it will be nationalized. This is ideal, of course. How will it be in practice, who knows? The question, presumably, is purely rhetorical.
  8. Altona
    Altona 26 May 2016 10: 23
    +14
    Immediately a minus. Belief in the "good king-father" and "evil boyars" again. There is no need to drag figures from the past as an example to follow, they were overthrown by history, and not only by the evil intention of the people. Father Tsar stepped on the same liberal rake when the economy became bourgeois and open, when his "good subjects" took foreign loans, and other "subjects" "patriotically" dragged him into the war for completely incomprehensible goals. Oh yes, to nail the notorious shield to the gates of St. Sophia in Tsar Grad and take the straits away from the Turks, while fighting not only with the Turks, but also with Germany and Austria-Hungary. Okay, God bless him, the author. Wants to bow down to the ground to beat the portrait of the Tsar-Emperor, the autocrat of All Russia and to sing "God Save the Tsar" is his purely personal affair. We have characters who wear trousers with stripes, shoulder straps for the procession and, making the sign of the cross, walking with icons to the glory of the ever-memorable autocrat.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 26 May 2016 19: 55
      -3
      Quote: Altona
      We have characters who put on pants with stripes on the procession, shoulder straps and, overshadowing themselves with the sign of the cross, walking with icons to the glory of the ever-memorable autocrat.

      Pa'gdon, "Nyasha" did not seem to wear trousers with stripes to the honeys, although with the rest ... it matches!
  9. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 26 May 2016 10: 24
    +6
    The author did not quite express his idea. What is considered true ....? Someone is a king-father, and someone is a bloody tyrant ... In principle, do not name it, the king, emperor, general secretary, president ... all one is the supreme power.
  10. Glaaki
    Glaaki 26 May 2016 10: 31
    +1
    Mmm, I love the crunch of French rolls in the morning.
  11. knn54
    knn54 26 May 2016 10: 31
    +8
    1. Russia (whether it be the Empire, the USSR, or the Russian Federation) ALWAYS had a BIG problem of maintaining a given course when changing a ruler. And will the autocracy decide it?
    2. What does Nicholas II have to do with the Immortal Regiment action?
    3. Maybe it is worth considering the "Immortal Regiment" movement to raise patriotism both at the events of the 1st World War and the war of 1812 ... Then both white and red, ALL who fought for the glory of Russia, UNITE. And for such events, choose June 12, November 4 or December 9. I think that only in THIS case are the “icons” of Nicholas II and Peter the Great appropriate ...
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    2. RUSS
      RUSS 26 May 2016 11: 56
      0
      Quote: knn54
      2. What does Nicholas II have to do with the Immortal Regiment action?

      Poklonskaya carried not the portrait of Nicholas II, but the icon of the martyr Nicholas II - this is a tribute to the traditions of Russia, a procession led by an icon.
      1. ohtandur
        ohtandur 26 May 2016 14: 18
        +3
        Quote: RUSS
        icon of the martyr Nicholas I

        canonized him - God is with you. Only I do not understand the desire of some people to return to the archaic. I confess that when I was young I also fell ill with monarchism. Only this - had been ill. For all this glamor and splendor of the "times of the past" is one side of the coin. And I know why the monarchists are furious about Kurginyan. They will not like his social explanations about Premodern, Modern, Postmodern .. After all, if you admit that he is right, then the whole point of restoring monarchism collapses because it is Countermodern. Not an upward story, but a downward one. Like "the kindergarten was good." Hey, overgrown bigot! You can't spend your whole life in a kindergarten. Life is development. And change, permanent. the grain does not remain so all its life - it becomes a sprout, a tree, a tree. It changes all the time without changing its gene, code, essence. And you have dressed yourself in this uniform and never look in the direction. What is it? Degradation.

        PySy: But Nicholas, IMHO, is not a martyr, but simply suffered. And stop harassing the Communists. Overthrown by his close, the same monarchists only from the side. And the fact that they shot it was not the tsar, but the citizen Nikolai Romanov. Ugly, I agree. But you won’t change the story. And sighing about it is boring and pointless.
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        2. RUSS
          RUSS 26 May 2016 15: 01
          +1
          Quote: ohtandur
          And your Nicholas, IMHO, not a martyr, but simply suffered.

          Dima you are wrong, if only because you speak in jargon
          1. ohtandur
            ohtandur 26 May 2016 15: 34
            +1
            I'm ready to apologize for jargon. But still, he was a soft-bodied person, different people have different descriptions of him, but I am inclined to consider him spineless. And who and how it expresses in different words is a matter of vkucha and form. The point is the same.
  12. alexej123
    alexej123 26 May 2016 10: 38
    +4
    The author's point of view is clear - autocracy. I do not justify and do not accuse - has his own point of view and defends it. Another thing is not clear - why again arrange a pack "Kurginyan - red corner, Strelkov (Girkin) - blue corner". Although the surname of the second was not mentioned, it is read between the lines. Why arrange again on the forum, or try to arrange a "dump for dogs"?
    1. Altona
      Altona 26 May 2016 11: 16
      +5
      Quote: alexej123
      The author’s point of view is understandable - autocracy. I do not justify and do not blame - it has its own point of view and defends it.

      -------------------------
      The author's point of view roughly boils down to the following: "Well, why are we standing and marking time like rams? Let's" anoint the kingdom "of the great autocrat and follow him as in the days of ancient ancestors walked around. And so, life is half-life, fate is a turkey, and we will be lost for a penny! So at least for the Orthodox Tsar! Urrraa, gentlemen-comrades! On this I consider the agenda of the officers' meeting exhausted, I have the honor! "
  13. Rock_n_roll
    Rock_n_roll 26 May 2016 10: 40
    +3
    A good article, honest, but still indignant, because there are more.
  14. Kachesgm
    Kachesgm 26 May 2016 10: 49
    +3
    After the lines about Alexander III, holding the car after the crash on his shoulders until everyone left the car, reading the article became sad. If the author still believes in myths, then I, as they say, "take off my hat" ...
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 26 May 2016 20: 11
      0
      Quote: KachesGM
      After the lines about Alexander III, holding a wagon after the crash on their shoulders until everyone left the car,

      It is grandiosely said, although Alexander Alexandrovich held the roof of the compartment of the car in which he was traveling with his family. "Roof" if you like! good
    2. heaps
      heaps 26 May 2016 23: 04
      0
      What confuses you? According to his contemporaries, he was a "tsar-bogatyr" possessed of great growth and a truly heroic build. According to his decree, schools were opened by the type of sports, in one of them Poddubny studied. Who is Poddubny you know? By the way, he remembered a lot about school and described how he came as a skinny teenager. And keep in mind that the cars were then much smaller than modern ones.
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 27 May 2016 18: 08
        -1
        Quote: heaps
        What confuses you? According to his contemporaries, he was a "hero-king"

        Dear, the majority of those present on this resource, unlike you, are not psychics who are able to determine by the fluids from the screen who your undoubtedly wise thought forms are addressed to, so please use the highlighting of the specific text of the "opponent" and clicking the "quote" icon when conducting a discussion ... It will be easier to communicate ... hi
  15. sir_obs
    sir_obs 26 May 2016 10: 49
    +5
    Everything, as usual in Russia, depends on the context. Everyone can endlessly quote the tsar in the plan ““ Russia has only two allies - the army and the navy, ”and then cheat in a different context. And if Poklonskaya went with a portrait of Catherine? Or Potemkin, by the way, Tavrichesky by Title?
    It seems to me that the author’s thought is deeper, but he never formulated it. We have some for the tsar, some for the faith, and some for the Fatherland, and the liberals are against everything in general.
  16. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 26 May 2016 10: 50
    +6
    Kurginyan is a famous chameleon who has thrown away his communist past and clinging to anyone who gives more. The author is right when he writes about this. And the slogan "For Faith, Tsar and Fatherland" was renamed into the slogan "For the Motherland, for Stalin." despite the attempts of the "chosen" nation to thrust "crap" into us, Russia will always remain an Empire, at the head of which will always be the Emperor, whatever you call him, the president, the first secretary, etc. For some who do not understand everything, I can offer more read their own history, but not the corrupt Rezuns and others like them, but the Russians, for example Ilyin.
  17. 0895055116
    0895055116 26 May 2016 10: 50
    +4
    Will the return of the autocracy regime to RUSSIA help us solve the problems? I doubt very much! "Father Tsar"? Of all the kings and emperors of All Russia (since 1700), which I remember from history, I can name only a few who REALLY enjoyed and are respected by their contemporaries and their descendants. THIS IS PETER THE FIRST THE GREAT, CATHERINE THE SECOND THE GREAT and ALEXANDER SECOND ... At the same time, Nikolai the First Palkin and Nikolai the Second Bloody remained in HISTORY. About Alexander III ... I can't say that the person IS RESPECTED BY EVERYONE - even before the Revolution of 1905 there was a verse about a monument to him in St. Petersburg: "There is a chest of drawers on the square, a hippopotamus on a chest of drawers, a hippopotamus - LOOP!" Like this! And, also, from my childhood - I first came to PETER as a boy back in 1973, of course there were impressions ... And one of the IMPRESSIONS - in the Peter and Paul Cathedral at the grave of Peter the Great (in SOVIET TIME) EVERY DAY FRESH LIVE FLOWERS !!! And no one else.
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 26 May 2016 11: 06
      +2
      but what about Paul I? just curious, sorry to bother you.
  18. Verdun
    Verdun 26 May 2016 10: 55
    +9
    I am not a monarchist, I am a supporter of autocracy, the natural state of Russian statehood for a millennium.
    I would like to understand in what parallel universe the author of these lines lives? As a state, Russia began to form during the time of Ivan the Terrible. Based on this, it is rather strange to talk about "statehood throughout the millennium". At the same time, the system of autocratic rule was frankly copied from the Byzantine one and was implanted by alien people - Vikings or Varangians, whoever likes it more. At the same time, there was a "Novgorod veche" and other similar forms of government. The ancient Russian annals contain numerous references to the convocation of the veche: Belgorod (997), Novgorod (1068), Kiev (1068), Vladimir-Volynsky (1097), Zvenigorod-Galitsky (1147), Rostov , Suzdal, Vladimir-on-Klyazma (1157), Polotsk (1159), Pereyaslavl-Zalessky (1176), Smolensk (1185).
    The Byzantine researcher Procopius of Caesarea wrote back in the VI century: “These tribes, Slavs and Antes, are not controlled by one person, but since ancient times live in democracy, and therefore they have the happiness and misfortune in life is considered a common cause.”
    This is what concerns the "thousand-year autocracy". And yet, explain to me, if you please, how do "autocracy" and "immortal regiment" relate? Something I do not remember, that on the battlefields of WWII people rose to attack "for the faith, the king and the fatherland!"
  19. Heimdall47
    Heimdall47 26 May 2016 10: 57
    -7
    Explanatory, good article. You do not often see this, especially on this site.
    It just so happened that the Russian people took shape in the era of the Orthodox monarchy. Therefore, we must remember that a person is not Orthodox, does not respect the Russian autocracy - this is not a Russian person.
  20. Pyokhar
    Pyokhar 26 May 2016 11: 01
    0
    It would seem that what does Kurginyan have to do with this article? It turns out what: offense against Kurginyan and encouraged the author to write an article. Therefore, it turned out to be a confusion.
    But sound thoughts are present in it.
  21. Gray brother
    Gray brother 26 May 2016 11: 07
    +4
    Paskudniku Kolenka has no place neither on the icon, nor, especially, in the Immortal regiment.
  22. 1536
    1536 26 May 2016 11: 08
    +2
    It seems that in two years these Kurginians will publish a manual with the rules of how, with what and how to participate in the action "Immortal Regiment. I respect the choice of N. Poklonskaya to go with the icon of Nicholas II in her hands. Why? Because he was the first victim in a series millions and millions of victims of the Russian people in the XNUMXth - early XNUMXst century.
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 26 May 2016 11: 32
      +1
      Quote: 1536
      Yes, because he was the first victim in a series of millions and millions of victims of the Russian people in the XX-th - the beginning of the XXI century.

      He was an executioner, not a victim. The devils are now roasting in hell on the same spit with Yeltsin, and soon Gorbachev will join them.
      Moreover, the temperature of coal is monitored by Comrade Stalin, and comrade Beria is turning the spit.
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 26 May 2016 11: 50
        0
        If we consider Nicholas a victim ---- then only their own shortcomings, mistakes.
        Poklonskaya’s desire to go with his portrait is very strange, it is for an impressionable woman, but not for her position.
        Are you tired?
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 26 May 2016 12: 15
          +2
          Yes, not with a portrait, with an icon. How much can you talk about it.
      2. alicante11
        alicante11 26 May 2016 11: 57
        +3
        Damn him in hell now fried on the same skewer with Yeltsin


        Moreover, the temperature of coal is monitored by Comrade Stalin, and comrade Beria is turning the spit.


        In the main devils found, however :).
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 26 May 2016 13: 01
          -1
          Quote: alicante11
          In the main devils found, however :).

          The devils lead the process.
  23. NACC
    NACC 26 May 2016 11: 10
    +1
    I had a higher opinion of Kurgenyan
  24. hartlend
    hartlend 26 May 2016 11: 22
    +2
    The article turned out to be opportunistic. The author lacks a measure of understanding of the issues he is writing about. For example, Orthodoxy is a pre-Christian faith in Russia. Christianity, which everyone appreciates so much, was planted in Russia by fire and sword. It was transformed into Vedic holidays and even appropriated the Orthodoxy brand. Hence, there are doubts about the indisputability of the canonizations from Christianity. With the Romanovs, whom the author loves, not everything is clean either. Before the Romanovs, there was the Rurik dynasty, whom the people called to rule in Russia. Rurik - Rarog, which means a falcon, a symbol of Russia. The Rurik clan was destroyed, Ivan IV the Terrible was poisoned with mercury along with his family. After the turmoil, the Zakharyins-Yurievs came to power, who, as a sign of loyalty to the Vatican, became Roman, that is, Romanovs. Then draw your own conclusions. The Immortal Regiment has pre-Christian roots, it is an appeal to our ancestors, a connection with them.
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  25. heaps
    heaps 26 May 2016 11: 34
    0
    In short, to make it clear. "Nicholas the Bloody" shot at the Maidan. Oops or is it "Bloody Yanukovych". All your arguments smell the same as the arguments of "Maidan witnesses". One to one, they smell like shit. And referring to the liberal rags, that of the last two years, that of a hundred years ago, you yourself hang a badge on your chest with the profile of a parubian and the inscription "Down with logic."
  26. brn521
    brn521 26 May 2016 11: 34
    +3
    In general, unlike various zombie sectarians, Orthodox people try in polemics to be calm, restrained and factual.
    Judging by the phrase, the author himself is not an Orthodox person. Therefore, he considers himself entitled to call zombie sectarians zombie sectarians, since he himself is restless, incontinent, and he does not give a damn about the facts. On the same story, starting with the Old Testament and ending with Recent History.
    And so the article as a whole - the usual dreams of an uncle who will come down from heaven and arrange everything. Also, as a standard application, the author begs blinders on his eyes, which would protect him from the variety that the current media are to him. Those. he needs censorship and a supervision system. The Stalinists, by the way, have the same thing - the tsar’s tsar and censorship, propaganda, indicating the only true goal of life.
    In principle, there is something in it. People got a lot of freedom. As a rule, they live better than before. But at the same time, many are unhappy to such an extent that they even ceased to multiply. But the signified method of eternal construction of a bright future is not a panacea. Something in people accumulates over time, which is why they always strive to broaden their horizons and change. Otherwise, they would have sat along camps with stone axes. While there is a struggle for existence, this problem does not come to the fore. But at least some prosperity stands out, brains begin to roam, including among the leadership. It turns out to be a dead end. A man strives for happiness, the monarch is trying to create a prosperous state, the secretary general-dictator is trying to build communism. But as a result, a person is not able to assimilate this happiness normally. So neither the monarch, nor the dictator will help us until we deal with the cockroaches in our own head.
    And so, in general, the article is a plus. Though weak and slurred, it’s not for the same Stalinists to find a site. Yes, and gives an extra reason to reflect.
  27. Lieutenant Izhe
    Lieutenant Izhe 26 May 2016 11: 42
    0
    Crimean-exalted fool-prosecutor who came out to the "immortal regiment" with a portrait of the "passion-bearer of the sovereign father" DISAPPUVED with her woman's stupidity ...
    "WHO rules us, bl.dl?! ....- I. DIOTS !!!"
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 26 May 2016 12: 19
      +1
      The devils were dancing
      Across and across Russia ....
  28. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 26 May 2016 11: 44
    +2
    Nikolai, not raised to be a sovereign and not having received the necessary skills, remained completely faithful to his god and his people, who were deceived and betrayed by the bulk of the people. He sacrificed his life and the life of his large family, but did not betray, but redeemed his people.

    Somehow everyone forgets the fact that Nicholas II, who dragged Russia into a difficult situation, betrayed his people and country, having renounced his reign. The Romanov family continued the tradition, pinching the thrown off crown to each other, like a hot pie. And now, when Russia has stood and risen, they are claiming a kingdom.
    Sacrifice in the fact that they shot him and his family is an absolute zero, since nothing depended on him, and sacrifice involves independent decision-making. So a rooster in the broth can be declared a victim. The fact is also hushed up that they shot not the tsar and the family, but the former tsar of citizen Romanov and the family. For what feats he was assigned to the saints, I do not understand.
  29. Irbis77
    Irbis77 26 May 2016 11: 47
    +4
    the feeling that the author is divorced from life. there will be some and will offer the concept of being in the form of a herd-communal way of life and believe that there will be his followers. in a word - the clinic.
  30. Pinkie F.
    Pinkie F. 26 May 2016 11: 48
    0
    I do not like the word "monarchy" ... First, this is not a Russian word, but a Latin one.

    Really. And "communism" is also not that. Better in the language of native aspens - "hostel"
  31. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 26 May 2016 11: 52
    +2
    If we consider two ways of development of Russia, the monarchy (autocracy, if not cool, is a monarchy), or what we like to call "leftist dictatorship", it would be better to contact other authors. About the idea of ​​monarchy - Roman Valerievich Zlotnikov. He's not only. one of the most famous science fiction writers in Russia, but also a supporter of the monarchy. About what not only his fantastic works. There was a sensational three or four-volume edition of Project Russia on the same topic several years ago, unknown to the general public by authors (by the way, Zlotnikov gave a review of one of the volumes devoted to the restoration of the monarchy in Russia, at the request of the authors).
    A bright representative of another direction, the left dictatorship, is Andrei Ilyich Fursov, historian, writer ...
    The arguments of both Zlotnikov and Fursov have the right to life. But the concepts and restoration of the monarchy and the establishment of a left dictatorship, they spelled out much more clearly and distinctly than the author of the article.
    And the main question that Zlotnikov and Fursov are emphasizing is the formation of the national elite, i.e. people giving patterns of behavior, patterns of life. This is currently not observed in Russia.
    And there will be no real national elite, then do not call the state system (monarchy, left dictatorship), it turns out ... well, what we had in the 90s and have now.
    1. Lieutenant Izhe
      Lieutenant Izhe 26 May 2016 12: 06
      -1
      ah, which monarch do you like better .. Nicolas-TU, Misha GE or Borya Ye? (oh, don't say current, INTO "Uncle Joe")))
      1. Aleksandr1959
        Aleksandr1959 26 May 2016 12: 09
        +2
        and what kind of monarch do you like more ... Nicholas-TU, Misha GE or Borya Ye?

        No need to be rude.
        Read the message carefully, not diagonally. I pointed out the authors in two opposite directions. And about my love for the monarchy ... poke your finger in the message where it is written about.
  32. sergo1914
    sergo1914 26 May 2016 11: 55
    +5
    A few questions to the author
    1) Who overthrew the monarchy in Russia?
    2) Who forced Nicholas II to abdicate?
    3) Who actually blocked the tsar’s arrival in Petrograd?
    4) Where did the people who swore allegiance to the king after the abdication go?
    5) Did anyone pronounce the slogan "For Faith, Tsar and Fatherland" from February 17 to October 17 out loud? At least two or three names.
    6) General Alekseev, Rodzianko, General Ruzsky also in the Immortal Regiment?
  33. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 26 May 2016 12: 04
    0
    Apparently, the author continues the argument with his opponents, and we don’t understand everything initially in this argument, which is why there is some confusion, but it’s interesting. Each of us has our own cockroaches in our heads, which makes us be tolerant of each other.
  34. nnz226
    nnz226 26 May 2016 12: 08
    +2
    Just don't need Nikolashka the Bloody (the Russian people also gave the nickname after Khodynka, when Moscow mourned hundreds, if not thousands of those who died, and this "gopher" danced in the French embassy (consulate) - I was also an "anointed", caring for the people + Bloody Resurrection Since the power is autocratic, the responsibility for events in its own capital is on the autocrat !!!) By the way, the hypocrisy of the church is visible to the naked eye: in the basement of the Ipatiev House, in addition to the Romanovs-degenerates, their doctor and servants were shot, who remained loyal to the family, For some reason they were not ranked among the saints, although they have a greater right to do so! They were killed for their loyalty to the autocrat, in contrast to the family, who was shot for the stupidity and pettiness of the head of the family, who violated the covenants of their ancestor - Paul I. The king should marry not of his own free will, but according to politics and the possibility of procreation with healthy offspring! And this gopher brought the country to defeat the Japanese and to revolutions and the Civil War - WAY HOLINESS !!!
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. 26 May 2016 12: 29
      +5
      Quote: nnz226
      Just don’t need Nicholas the Bloody (the Russian people also gave the nickname after

      and he was called Pineapple.
      But I especially like the passage of Dumas: "Tsar Ivan the Terrible was called Vasilyevich for his cruelty ..."
    2. heaps
      heaps 26 May 2016 23: 09
      +2
      And why not millions of dead at the hands of a bloody tyrant? Ahhhh on the Maidani of our children, a bloody golden eagle bye.
  35. Lieutenant Izhe
    Lieutenant Izhe 26 May 2016 12: 12
    +5
    my faith is on the Soviet atheist (and technical) education, my Fatherland is the Soviet Union, which was ruined by two reigning assholes - a humpback bear and an alaska fight ... Religion is a fairy tale for mentally inadequate people in the world of Doher (recognizing them disabled - economically DANGER))) ...
    Nicolas-2 Romanov-M.uDAK ruined a huge country ....
    so that GO to the OPU with any "faith and (any) king", and the Fatherland is DEAR to me!
  36. Pinkie F.
    Pinkie F. 26 May 2016 12: 25
    -1
    "- What to sing?
    - In no case, "God save the Tsar ..". Something passionate - "Apple" or "Heart of a beauty .." (c)
    AND....
  37. Starshina wmf
    Starshina wmf 26 May 2016 12: 33
    0
    The Romanovs ended after Catherine. After there were distant relatives, and then after Peter 3 it is not clear who.
    1. AlexTires
      AlexTires 26 May 2016 12: 36
      +7
      minus you for the knowledge of history, the male branch of the Romanovs was interrupted with the death of Peter 2 .... and the female after the death of Elizabeth Petrovna .... further distant and indirect ruled ...
    2. bober1982
      bober1982 26 May 2016 12: 45
      0
      Do not confuse? Peter III was the royal wife of Catherine II, then it is not clear .... and that after Peter 3 it’s not clear who.
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 26 May 2016 20: 18
        0
        Quote: bober1982
        Peter III was the royal wife of Catherine II,

        He was the nephew of Elizabeth Petrovna.
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 26 May 2016 20: 37
          0
          That's right, she had a nephew, and the great-grand nephew of the Swedish king Charles XII
  38. AlexTires
    AlexTires 26 May 2016 12: 34
    +3
    Horses mixed up in a heap, people ... the author tried to make a sort of patriotic cocktail of various myths and distorted facts of history, but in the end he received an inarticulate article about nothing that justified the crimes of tsarism, the church and the actions of Poklonskaya, but at the same time offended the feelings of most of the country's inhabitants ... so the article is minus, and plus a flurry of objective criticism in the comments ...
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. 26 May 2016 12: 49
      0
      Quote: AlexTires
      Horses mixed in a bunch, people ...

      ... kings and kurginyans. And above this bunch of aftop in a wreath of monarchical lilies (or better daisies - more tribal).
  39. Aleksander
    Aleksander 26 May 2016 12: 44
    +8
    Good article. In the "Immortal Regiment" can "go", I think everyone who died for Russia: in Chechnya, and in Afghanistan, and in the Great War, and in Finnish, and for Novorossia (as it was in Donetsk and Lugansk, everywhere in the Donbas) and in other wars for Russia.
    And on the next "Immortal Regiment" I will take a portrait of not only my grandfathers-winners in the Second World War, but also a portrait his great-grandfather, St. George cavalier, who scored mugs to the German invaders in WWI, then seriously wounded. If he had not won in 1914-1917, in 1941 we would have had even harder.
    By the way, this year I saw photographs of servicemen of the tsarist army with crosses on their chest at the "Immortal Regiment" of 2 women, and then I thought about my great-grandfather.
    And no kurginyan not decree.
    1. heaps
      heaps 26 May 2016 23: 11
      +1
      I support you with all the fibers. All of them are now heavenly warriors.
  40. isergil
    isergil 26 May 2016 12: 44
    +1
    Who let this singer of "monarchist happiness" from the German-Romanovs come here? What is this bullshit?
  41. Pitot
    Pitot 26 May 2016 13: 11
    +1
    Is Nikolai bloody? What's this? From great folk love? I apologize, dear forum users, but I hate the Romanov dynasty. This so-called autocracy, under them, produced a bunch of bribe takers, traitors, and spies around it, kept Russia to the left and to the right. We do not know in what tone the famous phrase about the allies of Russia was pronounced. Maybe from a pure heart, and maybe at the time of annoyance. For Russia from the pits into which they were led by the policy of the kings, it was the Army and Navy that pulled it out. Why, under the Russian tsars of the Rurik dynasty, Russia grew stronger, expanded in the territories, was there a powerful strong authority? And under Romanov’s, they only lost, everyone lost both people, and territories, and authority in the World. Romanov autocracy is a policy for the sake of its relatives from Naglia and Prussia. The article sucks. guardian for autocracy? Did he live with him? Does he know what it feels like to be a serf? Serfdom was theoretically abolished more than 100 years ago (sort of in 1861). But does he know that the quality of education in Russia was at the level of the 14-15th century? Under Grozny, Russians were more literate than under the Romanovs. Haha. Now the Romanov miscarriages of the 1917 revolution are creeping in. Again they will offer to edit. Why not? This article reminded me of this, alerted me. Touchstone??
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. 26 May 2016 13: 31
      0
      Quote: Pitot
      Touchstone??

      What kind of "trial" is there. All this fuss with penetrating the roots of the Russian statehood and masturbating at the Romanov house has been going on for a long time. I avoid the word "trend", but the autocratic enthusiasts and monarchist conceptualists with their vague obsessions have become fashionable hunters among intellectuals, in the creative crowd and among the gonfalons.
    2. Aleksander
      Aleksander 26 May 2016 13: 34
      +2
      Quote: Pitot
      the so-called autocracy, with them produced a bunch of bribe takers, traitors, spies contained around her sold Russia left and right

      Yes, autocracy is downright an angel in this sense in comparison with communist rule: only Polish "shpiens" "shot more than a hundred thousand, not to mention the many thousands of agents of German, British, Japanese, American and other intelligence services, 70% of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of the 17 congresses shot for treason and espionage (what bastards, however, these old Bolsheviks turned out to be! angry ) Double Dybenko, for example, tried to dissuade himself from saying that he did not know the American language, but nothing had broken the reptile. Where is tsarism! yes
      Quote: Pitot
      Why, under the Russian tsars of the Rurik dynasty, Russia grew stronger, expanded in the territories, was there a powerful strong authority? And when Romanov’s only lost, everyone lost both people and territories, and authority in the world.

      Oh my god! belay lol request
  42. heaps
    heaps 26 May 2016 13: 46
    0
    I read, comments, answered (if I offended anyone, forgive me). Thanks to the author, there are some shortcomings, but how can we do without them. But I come to a firm conclusion that we are doing everything right. After all, autocracy, like Orthodoxy, is the only correct system, since it is a formally strict patriarchy. Only in a family where there is patriarchy (that is, the father is the head of the family), where the father loves his wife and children, order and prosperity. If "democracy" (democracy) - mother and father are always in a quarrel, children grow up in hatred (and then grow up uneducated and quarrelsome) and the family falls apart. "Every kingdom divided in itself will be empty; and every city or house divided in itself will not stand."
  43. Forest
    Forest 26 May 2016 14: 08
    +3
    The author clearly went too far. From Alexander III, the son inherited a great country that produced everything. Yes, there were problems, yes, in general development of industry / economy, we lagged behind Europe, but there were also solutions. If Lenin was to blame for everything, then why did Nicholas take French loans for wild sums, which then our guys paid in Prussia and generally under Verdun? Why slow down Stolypin? Was Lenin at Headquarters in Belarus sitting and drinking with the generals? Lenin rested most of the time? By the time of the signing of the Brest Peace, we had neither the army, nor the desire to fight people. And the tsar, if not forgotten, was overthrown by the gentlemen of the nobles in February, and not by the Bolshevik comrades in October.
  44. Basil50
    Basil50 26 May 2016 14: 34
    +1
    On the curved foundation of statements to build reasoning to get what the author laid out. Under the Romanovs, it was * mounted * precisely the absolute monarchy, and precisely according to the Western model. It got to the point that they began to correct history to justify the monarchy and, with foreign experts, literally on all issues. And today, to obtain a certificate of education, we are all obliged to memorize about the savagery and inability of RUSSIAN people, without import leadership, not only to create something, but to live. Hence the grievances specifically to the SOVIET UNION for rejecting the masters and other specialists of a wide profile. So, as an author without a master, by no means, because the rationale for voluntary slavery is failing, that’s the danger.
    And as for the dependence of the nobles, it is better not to justify the Decembrists: this is about the fact that the nobles are completely dependent on the royal will, it’s insulting for the slaves themselves to be unbearable depending on anyone. It seems like you become a slave.
    And about Nicholas II, well, he doesn’t * pull * on the sufferer, or on just a decent person. He hid the royal family’s money in foreign banks, just like a modern oligarch, was completely irresponsible for the decisions made. For personal debts he sent RUSSIAN SOLDIERS AND OFFICERS to France just like colonial troops, and with the same * rights *.
  45. russkiy redut
    russkiy redut 26 May 2016 15: 02
    +3
    Our strength is in unity !! They want to divide us by nationality, religion, financial condition, etc. because then it is easier to fight with us. We must unite on the basis of love for our Russia, the desire to make it better, the land on which we were born, the territory that unites us, respect for our ancestors.
    1. Russian people
      Russian people 27 May 2016 00: 53
      0
      Everyone loves the motherland in different ways. Unite in a political sense will not succeed
  46. Corvetkapitan
    Corvetkapitan 26 May 2016 15: 09
    0
    The idea of ​​transferring supreme power by inheritance looks frankly stupid and unacceptable. We don’t need to tell fables about the dumb Tsar Nikolashka the Second, who had waged two wars and brought Russia to collapse and a civil war. Corruption flourished under Nikolai Second, and this effeminate fool didn’t have mind, nor desire, not willpower to chop the thief of the head and restore order in the country ...
  47. Lanista
    Lanista 26 May 2016 15: 32
    +5
    "monarchy" ... is not a Russian word, but a Latin one.

    Greek
    The overlord is an absolute ruler, has power and absolute rights. A vassal is an absolute subordinate, a slave; he has only obligations to the overlord.

    Ha ha ha. That is why, probably, the king was called "the first among equals". The signor had a huge number of obligations to the vassal; and the vassal did not cost anything to skimp on his obligations.
    Harold I Bunny Paw, Sven I Forkbeard, Richard III The Hunchback, William II Rufus (Red), Edward I Longshenks (Longfoot), Mary I Bloody, Ethelred II the Unreasonable and so on.

    Let's continue the list: Vanya Bozhevolny (Ivan V, brother of Peter I), Alexander Beznosy (Alexander I was sick with syphilis), Nikolai Palkin, Nikolai the Bloody ...
    He (Nicholas II) sacrificed his life and the life of his entire large family, but did not betray, but redeemed his people.

    Before that, he unleashed a bloody meat grinder called World War I.
    he (the emperor) changed over time to such an extent that he ended his career with dignity, a real statesman and guardian of faith and the Russian people. Examples are given by Paul I, Alexander I, Alexander II.

    Paul I - was killed as a result of a palace coup, which was the result of the struggle of the pro-English and pro-French factions surrounded by the emperor. Religious feat?
    Alexander I - died of syphilis. Religious feat?
    Alexander II - killed by terrorists (political, not religious). Religious feat?
    Princess Maria Romanova (Hohenzollern)

    And here the author is right. The male line of the Romanovs was cut short on Peter II. After him, all the Romanovs in the male line are not the Romanovs, but the Hohenzollerns. Including the beloved by the author Nicholas №2.
    striking is the complete lack of ideology

    Is this about Kurginyan?

    As for the Kurginyanovskaya reaction to Poklonskaya’s act, this is a personal matter of Kurginyan and Poklonskaya.
  48. Riv
    Riv 26 May 2016 15: 38
    -1
    The author, in my opinion, is not all right with the psyche. Ukrainian, probably. There are many of them.

    And when I see Mikhalkov's films, I want to shout: "Let me go there, I want to fight for the Germans!"
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. 26 May 2016 20: 14
      0
      Quote: Riv
      not everything is normal with the psyche. Ukrainian, probably.

      or Kazakh. Or Zulus. Or animator Mgamba from Nigeria. Or a neighbor who parked in my place. Ah, not that Azerbaijanian. Well, therefore, also a villain. Because
      Quote: Riv
      There are many of them.

      Quote: Riv
      And when I see Mikhalkov’s films, I want to shout

      not bad. Nikita Sergeyitch reached his. Auditorial audit, senseless and merciless (considering that the loot of those who
      Quote: Riv
      I want to shout

      his imperishable and removed)
    2. V.ic
      V.ic 26 May 2016 20: 26
      +1
      Quote: Riv
      And when I see Mikhalkov's films, I want to shout: "Let me go there, I want to fight for the Germans!"

      Is that how his creations affect you? So don't look! The psyche will be calmer! I didn't look at his "creations" in principle. I was able to look half-eyed and half-heartedly at "Burnt by the Sun No. 1" and a reflex / almost vomiting / appeared.
      1. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. 26 May 2016 21: 27
        +2
        Quote: V.ic
        So don’t look!

        right. Him (Mikhalkov) pokh - you look or not. The Ministry of Culture in the person of Medinsky liked the masterpiece, enough for the budget grandmothers shot. Not America, you know, some thread. So, in fact, it used to be. Pearl in Soviet cinema - what a sin to conceal - is also on the fingers. Find a network portal with Soviet films about the war - be surprised if you have enough to review at least half. The slag is custom-made and mediocre for the most part, alas.
  49. Moskal 55
    Moskal 55 26 May 2016 20: 38
    -1
    The guys from "The Essence of Time" on their pages about Poklonskaya and Nikolai at the May 9 procession spoke out, but Kurginyan just seemed to be silent. There was nothing on eot.su or on vognebroda.net about this. Well, the event is clearly not of that scale.
    And now only conclusions. Discuss with certain RUSS or lieutenant IZHER, and with the author of this article there is no point. I am writing only for the sane public.
    1. How good the autocracy was in the 20th century in Russia is clear at least from the fact that it "did not hold itself back." Nikolai is the main accused here. Like, "are you a king or where? .." Like, by the way, Gorbachev, in the collapse of the USSR. And it was not the Bolsheviks (whose leadership was then in immigration) that forced him to sign his abdication, but his inner circle. (How you can force to renounce is a separate question, and it is also not in favor of Nikolai.) Like, a bourgeois revolution. But the Russian bourgeoisie was unable to create anything. Power began to crumble, i.e. just troubled times came (no one obeyed anyone). And then this falling power was taken up by the Bolsheviks ...
    2. The Bolsheviks built the USSR and social. camp. Changed the whole course of world history. Read Jack London journalism about how they lived in London at the beginning of the century. Concessions to the workers in the cap. countries - this is because the USSR. The collapse of the colonial system - because the USSR. Those. in terms of talent and scale of personality, Lenin and Stalin compared to Nikolai 2 are like elephants and a dog. Here, the vice of the inheritance of power has just affected.
    3. How and why the USSR collapsed - see Kurginyan. Kurginyan, unlike most politicians, is trying not to crawl to the trough, but to create a "counter-elite". For what - to prevent the inevitable collapse of our Russia, which does not fit into normal capitalism, and even more so into our criminal one, and here the West is more and more engaged in our Russia. And in Donetsk Kurginyan was one of the few who stopped the further flight of one "supporter of autocracy". And the guys from the Essence of Time in Donetsk are fighting and dying ... And no glory to Kurginyan is needed, it measures in the comments by itself. And the "ratio of scales" of Kurginyan and the authors of similar articles is 1000: 1. After all, he is a theater director, a writer, and an authoritative political scientist, has encyclopedic knowledge. If most of those who muddy him here had at least 10 of his talents, then they would find themselves in our capitalism and make money, instead of writing articles and comments.
  50. Moskal 55
    Moskal 55 26 May 2016 20: 38
    0
    Read more.
    4. So our whole perestroika is an attempt to merge with Europe. It is with Europe. We have minerals and the Armed Forces, they have technologies and production, the United States is resting ... Under this business, the USSR was destroyed, and the industry, except for mining and a little more, was almost destroyed. Only it does not work, but the idea is clear ... And when the USSR was collapsing, they bred a bunch of autocrats, nationalists, liberals. And now something needs to be done with this. Well, people can't understand a nickname that if we admit that we have been fools for 70 years (and the fact that we have been "not smart" for the last 25 years seems to be beyond doubt), then this is an application for external management, no more, no less ! And all of us, including these autocrats, will be under the State Department. Desovetization is precisely for this. Indeed, among the white movement, Denikin did not go with Hitler, but Krasnov went, and many more went. And there are also Vlasovites. Prosvirnin satellite and pogrom day of wrath. If not in the subject, then type in a search engine. And then Bendera ...
    5. Now about faith. Hair from the head will not fall without the knowledge of GOD! Why would this victory be bestowed upon red and not white? Or is GOD not Almighty ?! Or is GOD consulted with the author of this article? !! So do not confuse faith in GOD with your resentment and your pride (and this is exactly the case for most autocrats). And the CHURCH OF HEAVEN is infallible, but otherwise you need to pray to GOD, go to church, but have your own head in worldly affairs! Otherwise, the ROCOR will quickly "draw" all your sins for you, and that there is half under such "pillars of faith" as the CIA walks around, they will be silent about this ...
    Come in, citizens on eot.su Read (a lot), drive in, join in! And then in Russia, the safety margin is not infinite. On the one hand, liberals, on the other - autocrats, nationalists, Vlasovites. In case of which they climb together, and the cookies will lick some Nuland from the hands of Bolotnaya!
    And about Kurginyan's pro-Putin position: "Our government is disgusting, but the alternative now is to dismember Russia!" And judging by the comments in the same VO, in case of the "success" of anti-government protests, the State Department will be the most consolidated force, and the rest will be in the woods, some for firewood.
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 26 May 2016 20: 54
      +1
      It’s very long and confusing, they probably didn’t serve in the army - it’s necessary to state thoughts briefly. What I liked - Hair from the head will not fall without the knowledge of GOD ....
      What did not like (in short) - ..... and for most autocrats (?) this is exactly so, this is where you talk about the insult and pride of these same autocrats. It is not clear.