Syrian T-72 continued movement after hitting two jet grenades into its shielded side

A video appeared on the Internet, in which the Syrian tank T-72М1 “demonstrates miracles of survivability, and the crew - an enviable composure,” writes Lev Romanov in his commentary for Messenger of Mordovia.

The action takes place in the suburbs of Damascus.

“A gunman armed with an RPG-7 launches a rocket tandem grenade with enhanced armor penetration PG-7VT into the tank of government troops. The next terrorist does the same, ”the author describes the events.

"The video is not visible, but, apparently, the grenade falls on the side of the Syrian tank. The footage shows how something starts to burn on the tank. But the crew does not abandon their combat vehicle, but does everything to leave the danger zone. And, apparently, he succeeds, ”the commentary says.

“Despite the fact that the enemy used the ammunition with a tandem warhead and hit the side, nothing extremely dangerous happened,” writes Romanov. “It can be argued with great certainty that one of the grenades destroyed the latticed side screen, the second got into the fuel tanks located on the right fender, which led to the ignition of the remaining fuel.”

He notes that from the outside this picture looks somewhat ominous, however, “in such a state T-72 can easily get into the disposition of its troops and safely eliminate all the consequences there.”

The lack of personnel with exploding ammunition gives reason to believe that for the crew of the tank everything was completed safely.

Comments

[oleg-gr]

All the same, UVZ produces good armored vehicles. And in addition, a competent crew - this is how victories are born. Well done Syrians!

[cniza]

Well done, morale on top.

[yehat]

yes, these fellows probably didn’t even know from the inside that the tank was on fire
especially from where it arrived.
Well, a very interesting question - where is the cover of the tank?
where are the chelas who were supposed to punish the grenade launchers?

[svp67]

Quote: oleg-gr

All the same, UVZ produces good armored vehicles.

Yes, not bad ...

Quote: oleg-gr

in addition, a competent crew - that is how victories are born

Well, you can’t argue

Quote: oleg-gr

Well done Syrians!

Of course. Especially if you look at what they turned that heroic tank into ...

The question is different, our tankmen in the troops, also "welding, a sledgehammer and a file" to bring their tanks, or our military-industrial complex will finally begin to supply the troops with normally modernized, in terms of protection, tanks. Moreover, the sample is T90MS, they have

[Sanya Rus]

on our tanks, everything is simpler, our tanks have active armor in the state, so everything is in order))

[meriem1]

Quote: oleg-gr

All the same, UVZ produces good armored vehicles. And in addition, a competent crew - this is how victories are born. Well done Syrians!

That's for sure!!! But someone RPGs are not very good))))

[Oleg16661]

To be honest, the victorious slogans of the author of the article are a little incomprehensible.

Here is the video: http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201605230050-a5wm.htm

It cannot be said how many hits were in the tank, one, two or ten. Or maybe both shots were past and only the 3rd or 4th hit.
Or does the author have any other evidence of the information that he gave us?

[alexmach]

Or, in general, the tank was laid out from a heavy machine gun.

In addition, the fact that the tank continued to move does not mean that the crew survived.

[dima mzk]

In the 72nd generally sat? If the tank continues to move, it means fur. it is controlled by water, automatic boxes only on T-90 AM and Armata

[Rock616]

Well, so you "Labus" in sprotland know better , you have what experience in tank building and combat use of tanks

[bert123]

Russian, probably

[xenod55]

But someone really does not like that UVZ produces cool equipment. And they make "Armata" there. There is information that Alfa-Bank, one of the leading banks of the Russian Federation, is going to bankrupt Uralvagonzavod. What is it for? although yes - the American-Ukrainian leadership of this bank DOES NOT NEED good Russian military equipment. Then the question arises - WHERE is our government looking?

[allllll]

Yes, why is this UVZ suddenly credited to the ears in a US-Ukrainian bank, to which Mrs. Nabiulina issued a license for the right to operate? Catch the whole situation?

[Pitot]

Honestly, they don’t look at much along the way ......

[vodolaz]

Powerful, what else can I say. People are fighting for their land and are not going to leave there.

[Alex777]

Quote: oleg-gr

All the same, UVZ produces good armored vehicles. And in addition, a competent crew - this is how victories are born. Well done Syrians!

If there were Syrians in the tank ...

[seregatara1969]

but no one swore!

[Sergey777]

I recalled the old joke, I’ll remake it a little now for the current moment-
The Igilovites yell at the Syrians to give up. in response, the Syrians never give up, and a quiet voice, and give Nuka Vasya a grenade.

[deputy ___ watered]

Probability theory and karma on the crew side! Good luck in the future and savvy commanders!)

[DMB_95]

Quote: deputy ___ watered

Probability theory and karma on the crew side! Good luck in the future and savvy commanders!)

Karma or not, but the crew is worthy of rewarding. After two hits, they did not know that there would be no 3rd, 4th ... But the tank was not abandoned.

[Aroma77]

Where is the video itself?

[Achilles]

Video

http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201605230050-a5wm.htm

[Aleks tv]

Quote: Aroma77

Where is the video itself?

The same question was ...
It was removed from YouTube, but it spread across the network:
https://vk.com/war_news?z=video-80727281_456239481%2F609425dc7435aa823c%2Fpl_wal


l_-23956241

And the second question:
What lyady did perfume have the products of the Bulgarian Vazovsky Engineering Plant ???
PG-7VT is the English name for PG-7VT, aphid ... it is the NEWEST development of the Bulgarians ...
http://vmz.bg/продукция/противотанкова-гранатохв

Ergachka / Shot-PG-7W-S-Anti-Tank Gra

[raf]

What lyady did perfume have the products of the Bulgarian Vazovsky Engineering Plant ???

Yes, there is nothing strange here, the "brothers" are in advance! "Exceptional" will approve! How not to bend under the gentleman ?! The mattress will move a finger, they will tear the soles of the shoes from zeal!

[wanderer_032]

Quote: Aleks tv

What lyady did perfume have the products of the Bulgarian Vazovsky Engineering Plant ???

Just "business" and nothing personal. Loot - everything wins!

[EvilLion]

And where did the RPG-29 come from, like the notorious famous one who got the Syrian T-2013 into the BC in 72, so that the charges were crushed, after which the gunner (certainly a man in a shirt) was thrown out of the hatch by gas pressure?

[John_f]

quite curious, I think 72-yke just lucky. but I'm glad that such luck saved the crew

[EvilLion]

So the tank is external, and, most likely, full (diesel fuel vapors are explosive, although there may not be an explosion on top of the armor), the fuel stupidly spilled over the armor. In Syria and the T-55, it was blazing, apparently from a fuel spill over the entire machine, it got into the frame, and nothing left, the crew left alive with their own feet.

[Smoked]

Cool of course, but why so substituted?

[Alexey RA]

Duc ... technically sound T-72B and not so withstand:

After successfully completing the task and after receiving a radio command to retreat, tank 623, which had previously rushed forward, began to retreat, not reversing, but turning around. Thus, he put his stern under fire from the enemy.
Over the next short period of time, the car received 3 hits of anti-tank grenades from RPG-7:
-first - into a metal barrel at the stern for additional fuel (in a combat situation on tanks, these barrels were always "dry"). The cumulative jet pierced the barrel through and through, but could not pierce the body of the tank.
-second - on board the hull; It was neutralized by elements of mounted dynamic protection mounted on rubber-metal screens;
-the third - in the lower part of the stern sheet, while the firing militant was "cut off" by a burst from a tank machine gun; the cumulative jet, having pierced the stern sheet, also pierced the lower part of the engine crankcase and "stalled" at the partition in the fighting compartment.
Nevertheless, the tank under its own power with a broken engine crankcase (!), Walked another 300 m at high speed and took refuge on a neighboring street in the location of federal units. There the crew left the car and quickly left it. Tankers reported that oil-fuel fog had begun to accumulate inside the tank and that a fire and explosion could occur. Soon the engine stalled. But nothing caught fire and did not explode. During the day, the engine was replaced, the inlet from the cumulative grenade was brewed, and the tank again went into operation.

At the beginning of January 2000, during the fighting to liberate the city of Grozny, 1 tr of the battalion was assigned as service forces to assault detachments of motorized riflemen of the 506th Guards. msp. In two days of fighting in the area of ​​the railway depot, the tank with side No. 611 was hit three times by the Fagot ATGM and six times by RPG-7 grenades.
The hits occurred in the following parts of the tank.
ATGM - to the left under the tower (all):
- two - in the fuel tanks on the fenders under the tower, which during the fighting tankers always kept "dry". The tanks swelled and exploded, then the elements of the mounted explosive reactive armor on the tower worked, there was no armor penetration;
-one - on board under the tower; it is reflected by the activated element of the mounted dynamic protection mounted on rubber-metal side screens.
Grenades from RPG-7:
-one - on top of the commander's hatch of the tower; a cumulative jet pierced the hatch and, without hitting the tank commander, went into the aft wall of the tower;
-two - to the left in the upper frontal part of the tower; neutralized by triggered elements of mounted dynamic protection;
-Three - on board the hull, 2 on the left and 1 on the right; all are reflected by dynamic protection elements mounted on rubber-metal side screens.
As a result, not a single hit led to the loss of combat capability of the tank.

[Cananecat]

It seems to me that the crew of this T-72 swore in battle at the great and mighty ...)))

[igorra]

It can be seen that the gasket between the chair and levers is a real tank. I didn’t run as usual, saving my ass.
P.S. A good crew has a better tank.

[igorka357]

My minus, you are simply either still young, or you know little about the tankers who are panting and burning in a tank! The psychology of a young organism is as follows, the instinct of self-preservation can work stupidly, and sneeze ... bullets outside or an enemy! , he will climb out of the tank unambiguously, plus the panic fear of death, this is a very strong factor! Imagine yourself in a closed and stuck elevator, and smoke ... you will crap in fear, and then panic will begin ... although there is no visible and direct threat of death, but here the person understands that there is a threat, it is real and visible .. he is in the war! And I personally know most of the "tankist gaskets" as you put it, which saved lives from a burning tank, and these gaskets in 94 were changed more than one tank, therefore I say that they are real! In this episode, the tankers were just lucky, plus reliable equipment! Remember, as soon as the tank got up without moving, or lost control, and there are no forces nearby that could help, and even if God forbid the tank is on fire .. it's better to try evacuate I ... every commander must convey this to inexperienced soldiers! Iron is iron, the Urals riveted, but the tank crew is the most valuable thing in it! So opinions differ!

[commander]

The minus for the Urals is riveted. Your answer itself is good, plus you, But we do not rivet tanks, but we create or revive it, if you built a house you will understand. The tank is made from components manufactured not only in the Urals. Tanks are not empty glands for us, they are assembled with the soul, thanks to them we live in the literal and figurative sense.

[igorka357]

Yes, someone argues with you, you rivet with the soul !

[EvilLion]

In my book "Tanks" in 1973, it is written a little differently, if the tank is hit, but the gun is not damaged, then the crew continues the battle in the tank, and only after the exhaustion of its capabilities does it switch to combat outside the tank. In the War for the abandonment of the tank without a good reason (fire, well, or completely covered from shells), they could have shot. In practice ... you can read "In war, as in war", when the main characters accidentally demolished the hut and the dust was mistaken for smoke.

[Red_Hamer]

Once again, Vestnik Mordovii surprises with its knowledge

[x.andvlad]

Reliable technology plus luck have done their job. The courage and composure of the crew is a matter of respect.

[newcomer]

it should be so, why be surprised. This is the main combat vehicle of the USSR and the Russian Federation. I can only say bravely to our masters of the Uralvagonzavod.

[Tatar 174]

A wonderful demonstration of the quality of Russian military equipment and Syrian craftsmen! Tremble the bandits and scatter until it is too late, soon you kirdyk!

[black]

When I did, 64-ku was hollowed at point blank range was less than 100 meters. DZ almost all worked. Tankers left the battle and only then did it become clear that the gun’s barrel was pierced through and through.

[EvilLion]

Before Donbass, the T-64 fought only in Transnistria and very few. So Yntresnenko where it was hollowed.

[uhu189]

I recall the videos shot by Anna-news in the suburbs of Damascus. So there, the actions of each tank, several snipers covered, not to mention the fact that the fighting vehicles themselves tried to protect each other. And then the militants shoot the 2 tank, and they’ve also filmed it all on the video ... Apparently, something has changed a lot during this time ...

[Forest]

In battle, not everything goes smoothly, especially in the building. Who knows how many more they shot, how they knocked out tanks, but something 125-mm high-explosive flew in response.

[voyaka uh]

"The lack of personnel with exploding ammunition gives reason to believe
that for the crew of the tank everything ended well "////

Unknown.
Maybe in the worst case, everyone is killed, except for the driver, who
takes the tank out of the battle zone.
And, perhaps, in the best case, there is no penetration, as the author suggests.

When most of the shells are shot, detonation of charges at
penetration may not be.

[yehat]

and why detonation if the armor is not broken?

[alicante11]

and why detonation if the armor is not broken?

But because the chosen one said. These are their invulnerable carrots, and our "junk" should burn and explode and become a mass grave for the crews.

[voyaka uh]

"burn and explode and become a mass grave for the crews." ///

To prevent this, they created Armata, where the crew is separated from the combat
compartment.

[bert123]

and where is she?

[godofwar6699]

on the paper ..

[Slavs]

Quote: godofwar6699

on the paper .

No, already in cardboard, in a parade they drove a rope ... Didn’t you look? I recommend. And they also undergo military tests, if they pass, they will embody it in iron, then, finally, we’ll at least catch up with your best and best, almost non-burning abrams .... Well, you need to call the tank an abrashka ...

[Victor-M]

Quote: Slavs

No, already in cardboard, in the parade they drove for the rope ... Didn’t you look?

They can't watch such "horror films", they would have something from Hollywood, that's it.

[soroKING]

this is not Abrashka any

[erased]

Where is the video?

[Primipilus]

Diesel fuel perfectly extinguishes the cumulative stream.

[yehat]

depends on how much diesel fuel

[EvilLion]

Yes, and any high-molecular crap, because a lot of energy is needed to break the molecules, and yes, a tank with diesel fuel, if it is external, additional protection, but the vapors can also explode.

[nemo778]

Here are some videos (though others), but supporting the article!

[Shark Lover]

A good example, Alexey. DRA, 85-87. A tank platoon, T-62, was attached to the DShBr. The platoon commander, Seryoga-6 tank explosions (not at once, in two years), is alive and well. During the next implementation of intelligence (sweeping), the T62 received 4 hits from cumulative grenades in the hull, came under its own power, everyone is alive. Our tanks survive, if they are not stupidly substituted for RPG volleys. Not to expose the crews, but woe to the top-level commanders, staff strategists. And they were unlucky, "lucky" for those who are in full growth, slowly aim with an RPG and shoot, if the tank is firing and it is covered by arrows, believe me, it is too long to aim and, as the rules simply shoot at the silhouette, wherever it hits. And here they are, just tenacious

[Yarik76]

The tank is decent! The crew in general was born in a shirt 'I hope everyone is safe!

[vandarus]

It can be seen of course not, but where is the side screen? At least its remains?

[yehat]

the frames show that a piece of the screen grating hangs at the level of the tracks

[vandarus]

Does the grill hold the tandem warhead?

[Evil 55]

I wonder if the Barmaley know anything other than "Allahu Akbar"?

[alicante11]

I wonder if the Barmaley know anything other than "Allahu Akbar"?

They are no longer taught anything in American training courses. Once, grind too fast.

[Slavs]

They know with what force and frequency to apply in a specific situation, and more and no need, why?

[Sergerius]

Among the Barmaley, after all, there is also someone with practice and skills to work with RPGs, and to whom they have stuck and go shoot. No worse than the comments above, at best in the silhouette, and where it gets, you can see from the video that they got into the frontal armor, but this is not realistic to break through.

[iouris]

It happens, but very rarely. More often the tank is destroyed.

[igorka357]

There is a huge gap between "destroyed" and "incapacitated"! They filled holes with chopiks, changed components and assemblies, hung new blocks, wiped off the blood, and go ahead .. In fact, destroying a tank is easy, as well as very difficult, this is such a tautology! In a tank, the crew is most often destroyed, and the tank itself, with normal rembat and support, can be easily restored! For example, a cumulative hit in the rear of the tower with a penetration, will simply kill someone from the crew, or the commander or gunner, as luck would have it! In Chechnya, there were no such cases, Mama did not grieve, six or eight penetrations, they recovered and again into battle!

[iouris]

Quote: igorka357

just kill someone from the crew

Sounds very optimistic. Thus, the tank may have “just killed two”, but “it continued to move”.

[vandarus]

Dear comrades, do you probably think that the cumulative ammunition strikes the crew in the reserved space directly with a cumulative jet? Have you heard anything about pressure and temperature?

[svp67]

Quote: vandarus

Dear comrades, do you probably think that the cumulative ammunition strikes the crew in the reserved space directly with a cumulative jet?

In most cases, YES. The defeat inflicts a cumulative pestle and fragments formed by it.

Quote: vandarus

Have you heard anything about pressure and temperature?

Well, how did the school go ...
Barotrauma, a simpler concussion, is not the main cause of death. But the fire that occurs when the armor is broken through and is not extinguished in the first seconds by the PPO system or by the crew themselves, yes, one of the main reasons for the death of our tankers, but here the design of our tanks contributes to this. In foreign tanks, the main cause of death is shrapnel wounds.

[vandarus]

Yes, I also read the article by V.I. Murakhovsky, replicated by everyone, about the damaging factors of cumulative ammunition. The physics of the process, according to Murakhovsky, denies the inflow of a shock wave (passage) through an opening formed by a cumulative jet. But from the point of view of the physical processes occurring at the time of the explosion, if the shock wave flows into open hatches, then why is the possibility of passing at the moment of penetration of the armor denied?

[realist]

the complex works in battle: a tank or tankers is not a separate threat, but an intelligent crew using good equipment is a threat. Thank God that the tank did not seem to be badly damaged and the crew (all or not all) left the affected area. a good car and a good driver mechanic show how to act in such a situation.

[Lieutenant colonel]

I watch videos and photos from Syria and wonder - why didn’t our Chechnya teach them anything ?! WHY machines do not even have contact 1? The towers are bare, there are no screens, where is the software? It’s not specifically about this car. The network has a lot of videos and photos with Syrian machines - most without remote sensing on the hull and tower. Obviously, they were delivered like that, but after 5 years of the war it was possible to equip the machines before? On the video of the bombings, I was always surprised - why there is no triggering of the fire protection system. 72 are thermo-contact sensors of the PPO system, they are triggered by direct fire on the contact pair (there are several of them on one sensor), the sensors are in the fighting compartment, under the AZ conveyor, on the side surfaces of the sides in the MTO and in the control compartment. Why does the system not work? Empty, not serviced?
Why the Syrians (with the help of our specialists) did not replace the thermocontact sensors with LED ones (by analogy with the T-80AC, UD, etc.) - even open fire is not needed - just a flash of light and the system will work.
But even on thermocontact sensors, the system is able to extinguish a fire in the fighting compartment - why doesn’t it work for them?

[svp67]

Quote: Reserve lieutenant colonel

Why does the system not work?

So you yourself know the answer:

Quote: Reserve lieutenant colonel

Empty, not serviced?

Quote: Reserve lieutenant colonel

Why the Syrians (with the help of our specialists) did not replace the thermocontact sensors with LED

We have T72B3 with "Inem", then not all have been supplied, but you want to export them as well. And the replacement requires a FULL disassembly of the tank and replacement of the supply wiring, but do they have time for this?

Quote: Reserve lieutenant colonel

WHY machines do not even have contact 1? The towers are bare, there are no screens, where is the software?

It is because of "those" that it serves those, but these are not. For the Syrians, at the moment it is very weak. They have a shortage of people in the linear units, so they ransacked them from everywhere.

Quote: Reserve lieutenant colonel

I watch videos and photos from Syria and wonder - why didn’t our Chechnya teach them anything ?!

Yes, they have their own experience "for tonsils." It is corny that everything is missing. no money, no ammunition, no specialists, no people. You were not surprised that these "barmaley" acted as in an exercise, without haste, with the deployment, but where is the infantry, which was supposed to solve them? But no. There are no people ...

Quote: Reserve lieutenant colonel

Syrian cars - most without DZ on the hull and tower. Obviously, they were delivered like that, but after 5 years of the war it was possible to equip the machines before?

While there was money, they carried out the modernization of part of the tanks, by the way, specialists from the Lviv tank repair workshop were involved, from Ukraine and components came.

[Lieutenant colonel]

I am silent about the military use of tanks in the city - in general there are many questions for the organization of their use, I do not believe that they are so bad with their infantry.
I am more interested in the technical issue of the operation of tank systems.
To replace the sensors there is no need to disassemble the entire machine, the sensors themselves and the central control unit are subject to replacement, there is no need to change the wiring.
The system is "empty" or "not working" - why aren't commissioning works being carried out? There are enough of our specialists, bringing the PPO system into working order does not require large expenses, neither financial nor human !? These are their lives !?
And one more surprise - why they do not keep the outer tanks empty? I know examples when our people poured water over them in Chechnya, which prevents them from doing this, all the more so having such a colossal experience in terms of conducting b / d. Or do they write the truth about Arabs and military affairs?

[EvilLion]

And who supplied them with DZ? There are generally T-72M with monolithic armor of the tower were, now maybe T-72Б just appeared.

[svp67]

Quote: EvilLion

And who supplied them with DZ?

On such taknas as in the photo DZ were delivered from Ukraine and the installation itself is similar to the installation on T64BV

[Jamuqa]

In the video, it’s not at all clear from what the tank caught fire, either from the large-caliber, or from the RPG. It’s some senseless cutting. Therefore, it’s difficult to discuss what the tank caught fire from, and even more so with the crew

[iliya87]

And the voice-over of the tank crew "bite, bite it !!!"

[Evil like Putin]

A great car was invented in the USSR, so that the spiteful critics did not puff about it !!!

[CRASH]

Poke the link to the video in person, please.

[Brain Yurich]

I wouldn’t put such a brick there as a tanker ...

[28guliver]

Is the crew Syrian? AS THE EXPERIENCE OF PREVIOUS ARABA WARRIORS SHOULD BE LONG TO BE TRAINED AND EVERYTHING WITHOUT JUST (Doomsday War, Holland Heights)

[Olegovi4]

Quote: 28guliver

Is the crew Syrian?

do not detract from the merits of the Syrian tankers, who have been fighting for more than one year.

[Taygerus]

the crew in a shirt was born, good luck to guys, well done

[Orionvit]

Quote: John_f

quite curious, I think 72-yke just lucky. but I'm glad that such luck saved the crew

Indeed, where is the infantry support? Did the tank work alone?

[Engineer]

Here, a lot of American experts in tank building write comments about Armata, they are so familiar with its design. And here I recently read the memoirs of a Negro charging crew Abrams, who fought in Iraq during the Desert Storm. So he wrote that they had diapers with lead inserts and every day they were supposed to take 100g of Stolichnaya to remove radionuclides. There is certainly no reason not to believe me in the book, but still about the Metropolitan, how did the tankman seem to be lying?

[Plato]

Maybe by diapers he meant special cushions on the seat. this is some protection against undermining bottom mines. As in the Vietnam War, the bottom of armored vehicles and in the bodies of trucks were packed with sandbags so that the "fifth point" was less stuffed with shrapnel. No, but protection.

[Plato]

The Syrians did not immediately begin to sheathe armored vehicles with screens or sandbags. and this is a bit surprising. It is surprising that the war in Yugoslavia and in Chechnya should have told all the military in the world that passive protection also saves lives. But this does not happen on the simple reason that everyone lives their own mind. And until this head is given to the head, it will not be combed.