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To you but father visit

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Europe is learning to contact Alexander Lukashenko, Lukashenko is learning to contact Europe.


After many years of the sanctions regime against the Republic of Belarus and specifically its president, most of the sanctions were, as you know, lifted - a few months ago. One of the points of lifting the restrictions touched on the fact that the Belarusian leader, the European Union has now decided to “allow” to visit its territory. That is, from the non-handshaking “last dictator of Europe” (namely, such epithets with respect to Lukashenka were used by European officials at various levels), the Belarusian president turned into quite a handshake ... This is time. Two is that the EU has received a directive regarding the status of the “last dictator of Europe”. They say that it would be necessary to reconsider and, possibly, assign a completely different person to this role. More precisely, they have already appointed ...

After the abolition of the “lack of handshake” of Lukashenka, the lines of European politicians have not yet lined up to visit him, but the Belarusian leader himself outlined a circle of states that should be visited at the first stage of the European “rehabilitation”. The first two are the Vatican and Italy, with meetings with Pope Francis and Italian President Sergio Mattarella.

To you but father visit


A visit to these countries took place just the other day.

The Pope said that he thinks of Minsk as a place of peace, and the Belarusian president, in turn, noted that he and Francis, it turns out, are “ideologically close”, adding (quote BelTA):

Come to us. You will get as much strength and health as anywhere in the world.


Continuing to develop the idea expressed by the head of the Roman Catholic Church about Minsk as a place of peace, Lukashenko expressed the words of invitation to Francis. Invitation to visit the Belarusian capital and meet with the patriarch. Then the president of the Republic of Belarus himself noted:

Everything is in the hands of the Lord. (...) I think that they will invite representatives of the Muslim world, Jews, and other confessions there.




In the course of communication with representatives of the Italian authorities, Alexander Lukashenko discussed with them questions of economic cooperation. In particular, they discussed the creation of an Italian technology park in the Brest region. In addition, Lukashenko and Mattarella talked about the transfer of the Italian experience of Belarus to the development of small and medium enterprises. Following the meeting, the Belarusian president summarized:

Italy has always supported us in the most difficult times. Italy and the Vatican (I thanked them for that) did a lot to ensure that we restored normal relations with the European Union. We spent some time with this, especially with the President of Italy. And this is the reason for my visit to this fertile and sacred land. I just had to thank these people for understanding what is happening in Belarus and for normalizing these relations. The conversation (with the President of Italy) was lengthy, and I am convinced that it ended on a positive note from the perspective. I am sure that the Belarusian people will soon see and feel these prospects.


In the general meeting were held quite friendly. Handshakes and sometimes even hugging each other. No mention of the old was observed.
In this regard, the question arises: if the European Union decided to lift the sanctions against the President of the Republic of Belarus and is now ready to do business with a man whom he watered with mud on any suitable occasion yesterday, does this mean that the leadership of Belarus has changed fundamentally? If it has fundamentally changed, then it is strange - not in a single Western report and report on increasing the level of democratization in Belarus (and these reports, like the words about democratization themselves - the sacred cow of the West - are dirty, hiley, almost without udder, but sacred ...) no word.
If there is not a word, then, it turns out that another directive came in - to keep silent, as they say, in a rag, hide the whip behind its back and at the same time pull out the gingerbread from the pocket at least partially.

In fact, this is evidence that the West for the same actions can impose sanctions and cancel them. Shouted about the absence of democracy in Belarus - the sanctions imposed. After a while, the presence of this very democracy in Belarus did not seem to be revealed, but the sanctions were lifted. And why? - Yes, because sanctions are a tool with which the West is trying to settle accounts, a sort of doll, which is twisted on the arm, depending on the desire of the West, to annoy anyone of the "partners".

One more question: does Europe need Lukashenko? May the President of Belarus forgive, but the answer to this question is unequivocal: it is not needed. Europe needs Belarus itself. She was needed with a view to luring Lukashenka with the help of Belarusian “Maidan” and establishing his “democracy”, but But father threw all Belarusian maydanutyhs on the side, “reassuring” those with riot police.

Now, realizing that Lukashenko is real for a long time, the West decided to probe Belarus on how to, in the presence of Alexander Grigorievich at the helm of the country, push its interests eastward. And the interests are not in the direction of Belarus itself, of course, but in the direction of Russia - to try to turn the Republic of Belarus into a kind of gateway through which you can try to enter the huge Russian market. At the same time, demonstrating the hard gingerbread of Lukashenka himself, the West will attempt to fashion a loyal politician from the “last dictator of Europe”. Will these attempts lead to success for the West? - the question is open, but attempts have already begun, and this is a fact. After all, the West by and large does not matter with whom to deal. They kissed Gaddafi - they destroyed Gaddafi, they embraced Yanukovych - they politically destroyed Yanukovych. Nothing personal, as they say ... The usual western political manner in which even terrorist structures are used to push Western interests in a particular region of the world. And if the politician himself does not mind making contacts with those who, as already noted, watered it with mud, then for the West this is the point.

Do you blame the Belarusian president for this? One could blame if Belarus were a self-sufficient state for all 100%. The Belarusian people are hardworking, economic, loves, when everything is on the shelves. But only in the modern world for the development of the country is not enough. We need resources, investments, bilateral contacts. And Lukashenka is looking for them. Moreover, Lukashenka was not born yesterday and not yesterday in politics. He is characterized by what he has the ability to skillfully turn everything in the right direction for him. Aware of the fact that the West does not need it as such, but it is interesting as an “intermediary link”, Lukashenka will do everything to get the most out of this situation. And then the grandmother said in two, who ultimately squeezed out of the situation more: the West from Belarus or Belarus from the West? Moreover, the West has something to lose, and But father lived under sanctions for years - and nothing ... survived - since the West needed it - two, has the opportunity to shake off the penalty, pursuing his favorite policy - three ...

If everything is so, then will the West itself fall on its own hook? ..
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  1. The black
    The black 23 May 2016 07: 04
    +13
    AT THIS!: Belarus Foreign Minister Vladimir Makei said that his country does not plan to abandon relations with Russia for the sake of the European Union.

    “We always tell our European partners, American partners, other partners that we will never build our relations with this or that state or with this or that integration structure to the detriment of our traditional allies or at the expense of our traditional allies”
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 23 May 2016 07: 20
      +5
      What's this. Now, if he had played hockey in the Pope, it would have been! laughing
      Although, between Rome and Russia, you do not particularly "back".
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 23 May 2016 07: 55
        +13
        Although, between Rome and Russia, you do not particularly "back".


        This one can ...
        1. avt
          avt 23 May 2016 10: 38
          +7
          Quote: siberalt
          Although, between Rome and Russia, you do not particularly "back".

          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          This one can ...

          It’s already dancing, and for good grandmothers, it’s also at a prick with an artistic whistle! laughing But the author somehow crumpled the immortal quotes of Pope Kolya expressed to the Pope, I laid out yesterday
          “I expressed the idea that it’s time for the pontiff to come to Belarus and meet with our residents together with our patriarch. I’m sure that there will be more than one million people who would like to see this handshake not in distant Cuba at the airport, but on land located in the center of Europe and which, thank God, were not affected by those cataclysms (and the pontiff also emphasized this), which occurred in the post-Soviet republics and countries of Eastern Europe after the collapse of the USSR, ”RIA Novosti reports.
          Oh! It's good that at least "not with my patriarch" wassatPatriarch Kirill can calmly breathe. laughing Hurry up, Francis would have to pay a visit! Well, how does Kolya's dad draw? After all, he can betray him. Francis is playing with fire ... with fire!
          “We are ideologically close to him, we have the same principles and views on the world order, development. The principles that I adhere to as president are fully consistent with those principles that Pope Francis adheres to. And on the basis of this, we had a very sincere and warm conversation ”
          maybe, well, since in the Kremlin near the Throne Hall in Moscow, Butka didn’t succeed with the folding chair of the throne, Yu Francis would think about installing a pair of stools at the Vatican ??? Well, for Pope Kolya and Prince Bulbash? what bully
    2. Valery Valery
      Valery Valery 23 May 2016 09: 53
      +10
      No, for some reason, Faith Old Man! Maybe sell for "glass beads". The West will praise, caress it affectionately - Old Man and melt ...
    3. Homo
      Homo 23 May 2016 11: 23
      +15
      Quote: Black
      AT THIS!: Belarus Foreign Minister Vladimir Makei said that his country does not plan to abandon relations with Russia for the sake of the European Union.

      And relations with Russia are: give money, give a discount on gas - we are brothers. We don’t recognize Ossetia, we don’t recognize Abkhazia, we don’t recognize Crimea - we are a sovereign state. Bypassing sanctions, we will push Western goods into Russia - this is nothing personal, just business. recourse
      1. Saratoga833
        Saratoga833 23 May 2016 14: 15
        +4
        Lukashenka has nothing new in his relations with Russia. As two-faced as he was! Recognize Russia as a sovereign power - God forbid! But to shake money off her - God forbid! The West showed the edge of a cookie - full of joy pants, to fully recognize Russia's foreign policy - "yeah, right now." It is a pity, of course, but this policy will turn out sideways for Belarus! As in the movie "The Meeting Place Cannot Be Changed" - don't be afraid, we won't hurt you! Chick - and you're already in heaven.
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 23 May 2016 07: 05
    +9
    who will ultimately squeeze out of the situation more: the West from Belarus or Belarus from the West?


    Of course BATSKO will have everyone ... with which I can congratulate him ... he is happy about his own country.
    Of course, some people don’t like that LUKASHENKO is flirting with both RUSSIA and the WEST ... but I understand him ... in politics one cannot rely on an honest word given as WASHINGTON as in BRUSSELS and KREMLIN.

    He does not want to share the fate of Gaddafi or Yanukovych.
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 23 May 2016 07: 12
      +4
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      He does not want to share the fate of Gaddafi or Yanukovych.

      At the same time, he does everything for this (to divide it up). winked
      PS And no one forces him to believe the word. But he doesn’t put a signature either. Afraid of probably ..? Yanyk was also afraid ...
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 23 May 2016 07: 16
        0
        But he doesn’t put a signature either. Afraid of probably ..? Yanyk was also afraid ...


        And why should he bind himself to obligations to anyone?

        Your own skin is more expensive than the skin of a neighbor.
        1. 33 Watcher
          33 Watcher 23 May 2016 08: 57
          +7
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          And why should he bind himself to obligations to anyone?

          Your own skin is more expensive than the skin of a neighbor.

          Here! And we all know perfectly well how the "self-seekers without obligations" end up, from childhood. yes
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 23 May 2016 07: 26
      +3
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      He does not want to share the fate of Gaddafi or Yanukovych.

      He will ride, raising his own significance on TV screens. In Russia, it’s a drum, but for Belarusians it’s a ride. For them, this is something new.
      I give 100%, in the near future his Obama will invite to Washington.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 23 May 2016 07: 33
        +11
        I give 100%, in the near future his Obama will invite to Washington


        I doubt ALEXANDER ... OBAMA's time is running out. Why the heck is some aborigine from a country that he himself is not able to find on the map ...
        OBAMA is busy with his exceptional personality ...
      2. Lex.
        Lex. 23 May 2016 18: 18
        +2
        I give 100%, in the near future his Obama will invite to Washington.
        And he Obama generally knows that who is where Lukashenko 100% he doesn’t even know where Belarus can be located near Japan, etc.
    3. oblako
      oblako 23 May 2016 08: 15
      +7
      Old Man can sometimes clumsy, but does the work of a peacemaker. A normal collective farm chairman, with a strong hand, successfully leads his economy to a certain symbiosis of west and east in the conditions in which he was placed by more powerful neighbors, while maintaining the identity of the Belarusian people. There, after all, as in Ukraine there are many Catholics on the western borders, and if in these conditions he manages to maintain calm and stability in the country, he is respected and respected. Although there is criticism for sho ... And who does not have that?)))
      1. Svetlana
        Svetlana 23 May 2016 13: 09
        +3
        Quote: oblako
        A normal collective farm chairman, with a strong hand, successfully leads his economy to a certain symbiosis of west and east in the conditions in which he was placed by more powerful neighbors, while preserving the identity of the Belarusian people.

        We would have such a collective farm chairman instead of a bear. We would have learned about "import substitution" in practice, and not from talking heads on a TV set.
    4. sherp2015
      sherp2015 23 May 2016 10: 04
      +2
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      ..in politics, one cannot rely on an honest word given as WASHINGTON as in BRUSSELS and KREMLIN.

      He does not want to share the fate of Gaddafi or Yanukovych.


      This must always be remembered.
    5. NordUral
      NordUral 23 May 2016 11: 39
      0
      This is exactly what is going on.
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 23 May 2016 16: 28
        +3
        At least one minuser would express the essence of his indignation. I don’t give a damn about it, when my bill came into force the law of large numbers (for liberals - a lot of money). Just wondering if I am alone in my thoughts and doubts.
  3. inkass_98
    inkass_98 23 May 2016 07: 45
    +10
    But father is still the artist, you can’t take it away, only he wouldn’t deceive himself. As for me, he began to flirt, and the bourgeoisie famously track such moments, what experience they have in such matters. Rygorych’s seat might not be enough for two or more chairs, and then it will collapse with such a crash that Yanukovych will envy. He also received guarantees from Western partners, I remember right now.
  4. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 23 May 2016 07: 51
    +10
    6 US Navy is already on a friendly visit to Belarus! drinks
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 23 May 2016 08: 59
      +6
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      6 US Navy is already on a friendly visit to Belarus! drinks

      Well yes. They now have forty million diggers, with experience. They dug out the sea, that there, some kind of channel. yes
  5. Moore
    Moore 23 May 2016 07: 52
    +10
    I don’t know how But Father will wriggle out as a result (his lohan, he lohan), but the main direction of "common people" to bite off from Russia (in the big sense of the word, not the current one) pieces, pieces, and really little pieces are preserved.
  6. BOB044
    BOB044 23 May 2016 08: 09
    +4
    Old Man thinks he is the smartest with his politics. It will be worse with him than with Yanukovych. There’s a tricky ass ... with a screw. The collective farm chairman will not be able to agree with the powers that be. They will sweep him away and run to Russia for help.
  7. qwert111
    qwert111 23 May 2016 08: 12
    +3
    "One more question: does Europe need Lukashenko? Let the President of Belarus forgive, but the answer to this question is unequivocal: it is not needed. Europe needs Belarus itself."

    Europe is preparing a big pendil for dad! As if Russia did not have to save someone's ass, which is trying to sit on two chairs.
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 23 May 2016 20: 06
      +1
      As if Russia did not have to save someone's ass, which is trying to sit on two chairs


      A simple question, why? What do we have with his ass? Russia is interested in Belarus as its closest ally. If Lukashenko’s cunning ass runs away from there, bringing the country to a collapse, as Yanukovych did, then why is he in Russia?
  8. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 23 May 2016 08: 17
    +3
    Europe is learning to contact with Alexander Lukashenko ....

    Mistake however! To control - must be!
  9. unsinkable
    unsinkable 23 May 2016 09: 12
    +4
    The article is too optimistic. Where there * dad * with his easily calculated peasant-collective farm cunning against sophisticated chameleons of the West. They will embrace, kiss, promise and turn. Do not blink (to put it mildly) Belarus as Ukraine. And therefore Russia will have to give * dad * not a hardened gingerbread, but a full-fledged piece of Russian pie. * Old Man * listens to the one who feeds him. hi
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 23 May 2016 14: 22
      +1
      Quote: unsinkable
      * Old Man * listens to the one who feeds him.

      That's not true! Russia has been feeding him for a long time, but she just doesn’t want to listen and see it! It aims at any convenient and inconvenient case to bite Russia and beg for another piece of the pie!
  10. sq
    sq 23 May 2016 09: 21
    +3
    If everything is so, then will the West itself fall on its own hook? ..

    Hush, comrades, hush ... The enemy does not sleep, and the chatterbox is a godsend for the spy.
    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 23 May 2016 13: 35
      +1
      Quote: kvm
      If everything is so, then will the West itself fall on its own hook? ..

      Hush, comrades, hush ... The enemy does not sleep, and the chatterbox is a godsend for the spy.

      I somehow think that the author of the article this time is reasoning correctly. Old Man was never a simpleton, and it’s not his first year in politics. The West needs it more than the West needs it, that’s clear. The West needs all the allies of Russia. He who resists being lured is eliminated in one way or another. Alexander Grigorievich knows this and understands better than you and me. Of course, the Old Man still can’t intercept hypocritical hugs on the fly like Fidel, for this he does not have the appropriate combat training, but I hope that I think that it’s enough for him to do this psychologically at the right time.
      1. Saratoga833
        Saratoga833 23 May 2016 14: 23
        +3
        Quote: Svetlana
        I think that his mind is enough to do it psychologically at the right time.

        I am convinced that is not enough!
  11. freejack
    freejack 23 May 2016 09: 32
    +4
    he wants to hold his ass on two chairs ... well, well .... The president of the only union state with Russia did not come to the anniversary of the Great Victory of the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, did not recognize, hugs the "fighters of everything Russian" with a parashum and turchin ... in one good movie they would say "th ... but-man"
  12. okunevich_rv
    okunevich_rv 23 May 2016 09: 33
    +2
    On a friendly note, Lukashenko’s entourage will prepare his man for the post, a Judas who, after Lukashenko’s departure, will mix his name and his family with life derivatives.
    After Lukashenko, Belarus is likely to repeat the fate of Ukraine.
  13. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 23 May 2016 09: 35
    +3
    Old Man plans to sit on two chairs, the neighbors also planned, and where are they now?
  14. Torins
    Torins 23 May 2016 09: 59
    +1
    Quote: inkass_98
    But father is still the artist, you can’t take it away, only he wouldn’t deceive himself. As for me, he began to flirt, and the bourgeoisie famously track such moments, what experience they have in such matters. Rygorych’s seat might not be enough for two or more chairs, and then it will collapse with such a crash that Yanukovych will envy. He also received guarantees from Western partners, I remember right now.

    The difference between Yanukovych and Lukashenko is that Russia was not satisfied with the policies pursued in Ukraine, and the Russian leadership all the time repeats that they are completely satisfied with the policies of Belarus. And yet, do you really think that before making any foreign policy decision, Lukashenko will not consult, at least on his cell phone, with Putin? What are you naive then lol
    1. avt
      avt 23 May 2016 10: 59
      +2
      Quote: Torins
      and. And yet, do you really think that before making any foreign policy decision, Lukashenko will not consult, at least on his cell phone, with Putin?

      laughing laughing
      Quote: Torins
      What are you naive then

      Well, somehow decide, but well, it’s not clear - it’s soured between the rock and the hard place, then Putin steers. laughing That's true and again
      Quote: Torins
      What are you naive then
      If you seriously decided that Putin needs these two crutches, Lack and Kolya, to solve something PERSONALLY with Pope Francis, which he did last year laughing
      The little casket just opens up - But Father has strengthened his personal power, and in a small country with a population less than in Moscow, it’s quite an unsolvable task for himself, so much so that as a result no one will say a word to him in the "inner circle" of the campaign. But in the west, they are not fools - they calculate the weak points of politicians and hold the levers of influence until the time. , for a second, at least a Jesuit general was even before the papal throne.
  15. creep: b
    creep: b 23 May 2016 10: 26
    +7
    Here is a science for Ukrainians. Old Man did not betray our Russian world Belarusians always walked side by side with us. They deeds earned respect and trust. And Kiev with its actions has lost all trust and respect. Perhaps soon we will see how Belarus turns into a real European state what Ukraine dreamed of becoming, but not only by pouring mud on its relatives and licking asses to our geopolitical opponents, but by painstaking work, patience and mutual respect. If Belarus will grow rich and develop, I will only be glad)
  16. kon125
    kon125 23 May 2016 10: 37
    +4
    Let him stop smuggling to Russia. Belarus does not produce such a quantity of beef that will be sold in Russia under the stamps of Belarus. At the same time, beef frozen by ships, shipped from South America, Europe, goes to Russia and knocks down the price of the domestic arbitrar. Thus, breaking large-scale import substitution programs in agriculture in Russia. Which seriously tuned in to modern technologies for raising cattle of meat breeds, which never happened before. But it can’t break into the Moscow market, and the beautiful meat gobies from Belgorod, fresh meat, does not cope with price competition in the wholesale market against frozen and incomprehensible beef from the European Union. In December 2015, we tried to enter wholesale Moscow with bull-calves from the former state farm of the millionaire named after Lenin. No way. We sold at a loss.
    At the same time, it’s not worth rejoicing that the consumer won as a result of fair competition, our meat is better in quality, grown without additives, on feed that feeds, our peasants receive money. Huge fattening complexes have been built, money has been invested. And everything stalls due to one hyderago presadatel.
    So, comrades, Lukashenko in the West is interesting precisely as a weak link in the alliance of Russia and Belarus through which goods can be sold to a huge market
    1. Eragon
      Eragon 23 May 2016 11: 12
      +2
      Quote: kon125
      He trades his role as an intermediary. He uses his trust and tries to turn friendship into money. Still, since Judah, this has not brought happiness, Amen.

      Eka You are cool ... Even in a close-knit family, brother doesn’t give money to buy a TV, for example, but lends money, and he is unlikely to make repairs for his money. And a good but unnecessary thing is likely to sell, albeit not for expensive. And what does the mention of Jude have to do with it?
    2. Svetlana
      Svetlana 23 May 2016 13: 49
      +7
      Quote: kon125
      At the same time, beef frozen by the shock method, ships shipped from South America, Europe, goes to Russia and knocks down the price of the domestic arbitrar. Thus, breaking large-scale import substitution programs in Russian agriculture.

      Do not be naive. The fact that import substitution is not happening in our country is not to blame for Old Man, but the policy of our government. While in our country it is more profitable and less troublesome to trade in imported goods than to produce our own, we will not have any import substitution.
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 23 May 2016 14: 11
        +1
        While in our country it is more profitable and less troublesome to trade in imported goods than to produce our own, we will not have any import substitution.


        Well, as the climate changes, so immediately the goods will be competitive and cheap. If it’s not completely naive

  17. Ros 56
    Ros 56 23 May 2016 11: 00
    +8
    First of all, it is necessary to break the Ministry of Trade and the local authorities according to their health, up to a prison with a serious term for the fact that our manufacturers (not resellers) cannot enter the markets and retail chains. Then they jump with the sale of fish and meat with bananas from Belarus. And do not bring horseradish potatoes from Egypt and Israel, when you can bring Belarusian for your shortage. So, first of all, we should put our officials in cancer.
    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 23 May 2016 16: 37
      +1
      Quote: Ros 56
      So, first of all, we should put our officials in cancer.
      hi All officials follow the instructions of the chief official. And the chief official is subordinate to Western puppeteers. And Western puppeteers are brainwashed by the world's evil. And our president looks at this orgy, but so far he cannot cope with it. Or not trying. We, ordinary people, are not given to know this. The fact remains that industry and agriculture in Russia are in no hurry to restore. And great strides have already been made on this path. Here we have, as in Mark Zakharov's film "Formula of Love" about carriage repair:
      - How much will you do?
      - I'll do it in a day.
      - And for two?
      - Well ..... I'll do it in two.
      - And for five?
      - Well ....................... If you try ........... It’s possible for five.
      - And for 10?
      - Well, master, you set tasks, for 10 days - an assistant is needed!
  18. NordUral
    NordUral 23 May 2016 11: 36
    +4
    Will you go along the beaten path, brothers Slavs?
  19. trantor
    trantor 23 May 2016 13: 36
    +2
    It seems that at a respectable age a person is vested with power, and behaves like a teenager who was allowed into the company of adults.
  20. Kenneth
    Kenneth 23 May 2016 13: 41
    +3
    The most annoying thing is that he will sell us, but he will forget to return the money for our debts.
  21. masiya
    masiya 23 May 2016 13: 47
    0
    Well, all the daddy "carried away" and so he said everything, now he will still show by trips ... no matter how liberalism does not move there, although we have troops there, so dill 2,0 is not acceptable.
    1. Dr. Sorge
      Dr. Sorge 23 May 2016 20: 05
      +2
      I am sure that this is agreed with Moscow.
  22. lopvlad
    lopvlad 23 May 2016 15: 07
    +2
    But Father lived for years under conditions of sanctions - and nothing ... survived - once, it took the West - two,

    ridiculous. Sanctions have some effect if you have established cooperative ties and your main market is in a country that has imposed sanctions on your product.
    The merit is that Lukashenko has survived entirely in Russia and now Russia is blocking its sales market for Belarusian goods and in Belarus there will come such ... that Poroshenko against this background will seem to be a genius of the economy to Ukrainians.

    Why did the West need it?

    Yes, the West needs to set fire in Belarus at the walls of Russia and to do this you need to get in there.
  23. Lex.
    Lex. 23 May 2016 18: 13
    +3
    Russia is preparing an answer to America. One of the options is Iskander in Belarus

    Alexander ALESIN 22.05.2016/13/51 / 3332:5 / Foreign Views: XNUMX Discuss (XNUMX)



    The aggravation of relations between Russia and the United States significantly enhances the likelihood of the deployment of modern Russian weapons on the territory of Belarus.



    A recent visit to Belarus by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov to a number of analysts related primarily to the need for his country to respond to the commissioning of an American missile defense (ABM) base in Romania and the start of construction of a similar base in Poland. It seems that Moscow has already begun preparing a response to these "unfriendly steps of its Western partners."





    OTRK "Iskander"



    Recall: on May 12, at the Romanian military base Deveselu, a ceremony of putting on combat alert the American missile defense system of the Aegis Ashore system took place. It consists of 24 SM-3 interceptor missiles with a range of up to 500 km. The complex is controlled by the AN / SPY-1 type radar and is capable of receiving data from radar stations of other bases and ships.



    This missile defense base is the first land element of the United States European Phased Adaptive Approach (EPAP).



    Attending the ceremony were NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg and Romanian Prime Minister Dacian Cholosh, as well as Pentagon Deputy Prime Minister Robert Work, emphasized that the system was not directed against Russia.
    1. Dr. Sorge
      Dr. Sorge 23 May 2016 20: 04
      +3
      It would be nice to emphasize in response that the western border of Belarus is not directed against the west :) This is so with a hint of Iskander ...
    2. avt
      avt 23 May 2016 22: 50
      +1
      Quote: Lex.
      Russia is preparing an answer to America. One of the options is Iskander in Belarus

      laughing laughing But Batska has a course? Well, when they agreed and agreed, since Shoigu publicly announced on camera in the media, the Russian Air Force base should be opened in 2015 (FIFTEEN), and But Father suddenly turned out to be unaware, which he also publicly stated on camera in the media. these fairy tales! Oh, those storytellers! " laughing
  24. Lex.
    Lex. 23 May 2016 18: 14
    +1
    “The system we are creating is extremely defensive ... We cannot use it for offensive purposes, even if we wanted to,” said Stoltenberg. According to him, Europe needs protection from “threats outside the Euro-Atlantic space”. Work added: "As long as Iran continues to develop ballistic missiles, the United States will work with its partners to defend NATO and all our allies against this threat."

    A day later, the first stone was laid in the foundation of a similar facility in Poland, not far from the village of Redzikovo. The creation of the most important elements of the Aegis Ashore missile defense system, including a radar and a launcher for SM-3 missiles, should be completed by April 9, 2018.

    At the same time in Poland it is supposed to place the most advanced version of the SM-3 interceptor missile - Standard-3 Block-2A. Due to the increase in the size of the second and third stages, the flight range, speed and maneuverability of the rocket increased.

    Initially, the creation of Euro-missile defense within the framework of the EPAA provided for four stages: the first - the deployment of American missile defense destroyers in the Mediterranean Sea and radar in Turkey (2011); the second is the deployment of the Aegis American anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) in Romania (2015); the third is the deployment of missile defense positions in Poland (2018); the fourth is the re-equipment of all air defense systems with improved SM-3 Block II interceptor missiles with advanced capabilities to intercept intercontinental ballistic missiles (2020).

    In 2012, at the NATO summit in Chicago, a statement was made to launch the first stage of Euro-missile defense. Almost simultaneously, the United States announced the cancellation of the fourth stage of deployment while maintaining plans to deploy missile defense elements in Poland and Romania.

    In Moscow, even though the Americans refused the fourth stage, they regarded these intentions “as a very serious risk for the Russian strategic deterrence forces” and demanded firm legal guarantees that the American missile defense system would not be used against Russia. The Americans refused, and as a result, the creation of a leading echelon of US missile defense in Europe is still one of the most acute in relations between Moscow and Washington.

    So on May 13, Vladimir Putin said: “Now, after these missile defense elements are deployed, we will also have to think about stopping the threats that arise with regard to the security of the Russian Federation.”

    Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin explained to reporters that the response to the deployment of US missile defense elements in Romania and Poland will be military-technical, modern and low-cost, based on the vulnerability of the enemy. In this case, various action scenarios will be prepared.

    Earlier, the Russian leadership warned that if the Americans begin to deploy the European echelon of their missile defense system in Poland, the Iskander operational-tactical complexes (OTRK) will certainly appear in the Kaliningrad region.

    A number of Russian experts spoke about the possibility of using the territory of Belarus to prepare an asymmetric response to EuroPro. Say, by placing the same Iskanders in the western Belarusian regions. At first, we can talk about a modification that meets the terms of the Treaty on medium and short-range missiles, and then, if a decision is made to get out of it, the question may arise about a version with a firing range of more than 500 km.


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  25. Lex.
    Lex. 23 May 2016 18: 15
    +4
    Leonid Ivashov, president of the Russian Academy of Geopolitical Problems, retired colonel general (who previously served as head of the main department of international cooperation of the Russian Ministry of Defense) made more decisive statements at the time. In his opinion, in the event of further escalation of tension between NATO and Russia, the Belarusian leadership in general may raise the question of withdrawing from the Lisbon Protocol and agree to deploy Russian tactical nuclear weapons (at least nuclear warheads for the same Iskander).

    It seems that Ivashov has not changed his position today. In the context of Russia's response to the opening of a missile defense base in Romania and the start of construction of a similar one in Poland, “we can talk about a base in Belarus,” said General Interfax.

    Thus, it can be stated that today OTRK Iskander has transformed from a military means into an instrument of military policy. The 2012 CIA analytical review contains the following very revealing definition: “Iskander” is a weapon capable of influencing the military-political situation in the regions of the world if the states located in them do not have a long territory.

    There are very good reasons for such conclusions. According to Valery Kashin, director general of the NPO High-Precision Complexes, which developed this OTRK, Iskander-M has no analogues in terms of combat characteristics. It has high fire performance, is mobile and maneuverable, capable of hitting targets with high accuracy.

    OTRK can be equipped with different types of missiles - cruise and ballistic. Eight types of such missiles have already been developed, put into service, or are being tested. Their warheads can be in both conventional and nuclear equipment. One of the latest innovations has a homing warhead.

    According to Major General Leonid Mikholap, the head of the Russian landfill Kapustin Yar, unique tests of the Iskander-M with new warheads for a range close to maximum have recently been carried out. It is such that it was necessary to "use the battle fields leased in the Republic of Kazakhstan."

    Thus, it cannot be ruled out that if the events surrounding Euro-missile defense develop according to a negative scenario, Iskander-M (including nuclear equipment) can be quickly transferred not only to the Kaliningrad region of Russia, but also to positions in the western regions of Belarus .

    The development of such a scenario (and at the same time a demonstration of seriousness of intentions), obviously, should be considered the participation of Russian troops equipped with these weapons systems in military parades on July 3, 2014 and May 9, 2015 in Minsk.

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    1. Dr. Sorge
      Dr. Sorge 23 May 2016 20: 02
      +4
      Although you brought a reprint of the Svidomo newspaper, but they just don’t write anything without an order of owls, if Iskander appears in Belarus, I will personally BE FOR :)
  26. Erg
    Erg 23 May 2016 19: 00
    0
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    ... but I understand him ... in politics one cannot rely on an honest word given as WASHINGTON as in BRUSSELS and in KREMLIN.

    A small suggestion. America can give any leader both power and money. Putin cannot do this. But He can give something that no one can. That's life! I think Father But knows this.
  27. rus-5819
    rus-5819 23 May 2016 19: 06
    +1
    Everything is in the hands of the Lord. (...) I think that they will invite representatives of the Muslim world, Jews, and other confessions there.

    But father hints at Minsk-4?
    another directive came in - to keep silent, as they say, in a rag, hide a whip behind the back and at the same time pull out the gingerbread, at least partially thoroughly, from the pocket.

    Dad dad, probably forgot where free cheese happens?

    interesting as a “intermediary link”, Lukashenko will do everything to get the most out of this situation. And then the grandmother in two said who would eventually squeeze more out of the situation

    The most important thing is to choose the right one of the two chairs (in the sense of four legs)
  28. Torins
    Torins 23 May 2016 19: 28
    0
    Quote: Ros 56
    First of all, it is necessary to break the Ministry of Trade and the local authorities according to their health, up to a prison with a serious term for the fact that our manufacturers (not resellers) cannot enter the markets and retail chains. Then they jump with the sale of fish and meat with bananas from Belarus. And do not bring horseradish potatoes from Egypt and Israel, when you can bring Belarusian for your shortage. So, first of all, we should put our officials in cancer.

    In principle, you are right. But here's the question of what exactly your manufacturer produces. When competition weakens, the quality of the product itself goes down sharply. Inedible army rations supplied by a relative of Serdyukov, bypassing any competition, I hope everyone remembers? So is any other product produced in the absence of competition. He may not even pass sanitary control. My father lives in St. Petersburg, for several years he has been drinking milk (two liters a day) produced by Dixie. He came to me in the Republic of Belarus for a wedding, tasted our milk and found it unusually fatty, although I bought the same declared fat content at home)) I recently talked to him, he says that now he is looking for only Belarusian milk on store shelves))
    1. Dr. Sorge
      Dr. Sorge 23 May 2016 19: 58
      +2
      I completely agree, and Savushkin product is really good.
      And about shrimps already tired of reading from trolls. :) In addition, if there was such smuggling, then the question is to those who import this product into Russian retail chains.
      Well, Italy, it is not worth believing the Italians. Especially the Vaticans. :)
      1. kon125
        kon125 23 May 2016 20: 59
        +1
        I’m not talking about shrimp, mind you, specifically beef. It comes with Belarusian stigmas. And it damages the Russian farmer. It’s not trolling. And it’s a real life example. After the prohibitions on importing food products from the EEC were introduced, Lukashenko became very interesting for the West. As the Russian market began to close for European goods, causing huge losses. And Belarus became the key to the Russian market, that is, the very contradiction that became the stumbling block between Russia and Ukraine - from Ukraine, the Russian Federation demanded that access to the Russian market for imports from the EEC .Ukraine did not agree, wanting to be a European sales agent in Russia. The result was a break in relations. Because each country is protecting its markets. Russia has repeatedly asked Lukashenko to close the borders.
        Any efforts to protect its market in an open border with Belarus are pointless. And the EEC understands this. And skillfully uses the factor. I am not happy, not gloating. This, alas, is a medical fact. Sooner or later it will come out, of course, due to the fact that Belarus is a fraternal republic, a partner., Etc. The question is not raised, but ... is such behavior acceptable between fraternal countries. Each has its own answer. To whom is the profit more expensive.
      2. avt
        avt 23 May 2016 22: 55
        -2
        Quote: Dr. Sorge
        Well, Italy, it is not worth believing the Italians. Especially the Vaticans. :)

        You tell him that. Yong is not aware of the campaign, since he often visits the Vatican. He could never burn a Jesuit in his life. Even if he doesn’t try, he’ll take money off his plate, it’s not “say gassudarstvo” - wherever he sits, he will get off there, and he will also pay for sitting like two adult tickets for the Minsk-Buenos Aires bus. laughing
  29. alexleony
    alexleony 23 May 2016 20: 51
    +2
    As for Italy, I can say that this country has done a lot for Belarus. You can’t imagine how many children from the Chernobyl zone were treated in this country. A lot of children from orphanages were adopted by Italian families. So the visit of the president is a sign of respect for this country. and her people.
  30. ship
    ship 23 May 2016 21: 08
    0
    Whatever Lukashenko does, I always have a personal interest in this.
  31. Hannibal Lecter
    Hannibal Lecter 23 May 2016 23: 11
    0
    I have never seen a difference between Ukrainians and Belarusians. And they both like to sit booty on two chairs. That Belarusians dragged to where the Ukrainians are already. Freebies even in the long run are so loved that they tear their homeland.
  32. Rubon
    Rubon 24 May 2016 02: 52
    +2
    Question on filling, how much dad is left before escaping to Smolensk ?!
    He was at home in the summer of 2013, the village and state employees stood behind the dad, hard workers supported them with small reservations, local bazaar businessmen and small entrepreneurs cried out with the last words and threatened to raise the forks as soon as possible .....
    2,5 years have passed, daddy haut everything, I have several good acquaintances changed their attitude by 180 degrees! Great events are coming in "Northern Moldova"! bully
  33. The legacy of ancestors
    The legacy of ancestors 24 May 2016 04: 05
    +1
    Quote: Rubon
    Question on filling, how much dad is left before escaping to Smolensk ?!
    He was at home in the summer of 2013, the village and state employees stood behind the dad, hard workers supported them with small reservations, local bazaar businessmen and small entrepreneurs cried out with the last words and threatened to raise the forks as soon as possible .....
    2,5 years have passed, daddy haut everything, I have several good acquaintances changed their attitude by 180 degrees! Great events are coming in "Northern Moldova"! bully


    I will fully support as a resident of Belarus. Now its real rating is about 20% of the population.
  34. Torins
    Torins 24 May 2016 10: 44
    +1
    Quote: kon125
    I’m not talking about shrimp, mind you, specifically beef. It comes with Belarusian stigmas. And it damages the Russian farmer. It’s not trolling. And it’s a real life example. After the prohibitions on importing food products from the EEC were introduced, Lukashenko became very interesting for the West. As the Russian market began to close for European goods, causing huge losses. And Belarus became the key to the Russian market, that is, the very contradiction that became the stumbling block between Russia and Ukraine - from Ukraine, the Russian Federation demanded that access to the Russian market for imports from the EEC .Ukraine did not agree, wanting to be a European sales agent in Russia. The result was a break in relations. Because each country is protecting its markets. Russia has repeatedly asked Lukashenko to close the borders.
    Any efforts to protect its market in an open border with Belarus are pointless. And the EEC understands this. And skillfully uses the factor. I am not happy, not gloating. This, alas, is a medical fact. Sooner or later it will come out, of course, due to the fact that Belarus is a fraternal republic, a partner., Etc. The question is not raised, but ... is such behavior acceptable between fraternal countries. Each has its own answer. To whom is the profit more expensive.

    As far as I remember, if the goods are processed at Belarusian enterprises then it does not fall under sanctions. As with those shrimps, we cooked them, packed them for you, and they are already traveling completely legal. What do they do with beef, I don’t know, but your customs officers are standing at the border and checking all vehicles larger than a passenger car))
    And as for the support of Lukashenko by the population ... His active support may have fallen, but those people who basically do not want to vote for our Natsiks also vote for him, and this is the half of the country. Well, consider that 50% against the Natsiks + 20% of Lukashenko fans and that 70% of the net vote + the military and the police, and that 80% for Lukashenko))
  35. The legacy of ancestors
    The legacy of ancestors 25 May 2016 00: 53
    -1
    And as for the support of Lukashenko by the population ... His active support may have fallen, but those people who basically do not want to vote for our Natsiks also vote for him, and this is the half of the country. Well, consider that 50% against the Natsiks + 20% of Lukashenko fans and that 70% of the net vote + the military and the police, and that 80% for Lukashenko))


    Achinea complete. For him, EVERYONE who votes barely 20 percent of the total population. And do not come up with these 20% some other mythical 50%.
  36. Torins
    Torins 25 May 2016 02: 11
    -1
    Quote: Legacy of the Ancestors
    And as for the support of Lukashenko by the population ... His active support may have fallen, but those people who basically do not want to vote for our Natsiks also vote for him, and this is the half of the country. Well, consider that 50% against the Natsiks + 20% of Lukashenko fans and that 70% of the net vote + the military and the police, and that 80% for Lukashenko))


    Achinea complete. For him, EVERYONE who votes barely 20 percent of the total population. And do not come up with these 20% some other mythical 50%.

    I myself voted for him, my parents voted for him, they all blame him at my work but voted for him, his wife, a former Ukrainian voted for Ulakhovich, and two other friends abstained. Our entire department (well, almost) voted for Lukashenko. So don’t need a blizzard of revenge here, go further to the Charter Forum - your nationalist estate and there tell your American tales for which you are paid money hi
  37. The legacy of ancestors
    The legacy of ancestors 26 May 2016 03: 01
    0
    Quote: Torins
    Quote: Legacy of the Ancestors
    And as for the support of Lukashenko by the population ... His active support may have fallen, but those people who basically do not want to vote for our Natsiks also vote for him, and this is the half of the country. Well, consider that 50% against the Natsiks + 20% of Lukashenko fans and that 70% of the net vote + the military and the police, and that 80% for Lukashenko))


    Achinea complete. For him, EVERYONE who votes barely 20 percent of the total population. And do not come up with these 20% some other mythical 50%.

    I myself voted for him, my parents voted for him, they all blame him at my work but voted for him, his wife, a former Ukrainian voted for Ulakhovich, and two other friends abstained. Our entire department (well, almost) voted for Lukashenko. So don’t need a blizzard of revenge here, go further to the Charter Forum - your nationalist estate and there tell your American tales for which you are paid money hi


    Of course, I can cite as an example all my friends and, in general, most people on national forums like tut.by, but it's useless for you to say that, you understand. Your department, I guess what, and it is not surprising that there the majority vote for Luka.
    And the best proof of the boycott of the "elections" by the population was the empty streets during the "vote", while on GebelsTV they said that the majority of the population came to vote for Luka laughing
  38. Torins
    Torins 28 May 2016 17: 42
    0
    Quote: Legacy of the Ancestors
    Quote: Torins
    Quote: Legacy of the Ancestors
    And as for the support of Lukashenko by the population ... His active support may have fallen, but those people who basically do not want to vote for our Natsiks also vote for him, and this is the half of the country. Well, consider that 50% against the Natsiks + 20% of Lukashenko fans and that 70% of the net vote + the military and the police, and that 80% for Lukashenko))


    Achinea complete. For him, EVERYONE who votes barely 20 percent of the total population. And do not come up with these 20% some other mythical 50%.

    I myself voted for him, my parents voted for him, they all blame him at my work but voted for him, his wife, a former Ukrainian voted for Ulakhovich, and two other friends abstained. Our entire department (well, almost) voted for Lukashenko. So don’t need a blizzard of revenge here, go further to the Charter Forum - your nationalist estate and there tell your American tales for which you are paid money hi


    Of course, I can cite as an example all my friends and, in general, most people on national forums like tut.by, but it's useless for you to say that, you understand. Your department, I guess what, and it is not surprising that there the majority vote for Luka.
    And the best proof of the boycott of the "elections" by the population was the empty streets during the "vote", while on GebelsTV they said that the majority of the population came to vote for Luka laughing

    On tut.by I sit regularly, there half of those who bear any opposition nonsense are about 10 people who write under different accounts. This is verified information. And these people write very actively, which creates a certain appearance of a certain mood of citizens. And about the empty streets. At my polling station was not crowded on the number of people. If you talk about Minsk, then there was the lowest turnout in the country, but Minsk is not the whole country))