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30 tanks T-72B3 entered the motorized rifle unit of the Central Military District

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About 30 tanks entered the motorized rifle brigade deployed in the Orenburg region, reports MIC with reference to the press service of the Central Military District.


30 tanks T-72B3 entered the motorized rifle unit of the Central Military District
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“Thanks to the incoming batch of tanks, the first two companies of a heavy motorized rifle formation were completely rearmed. Before the summer period of training, tank crews, together with technical support specialists, will undergo a course of mastering new military equipment, ”says the release.

It is noted that "the supply of T-72B3 tanks to Orenburg motorized riflemen began in February 2016 of the year."



Help "MIC": "T-72B3 - currently the last version of the modernization of the T-72 tank. This model differs from its predecessors, in particular, with new sighting equipment and communication systems, dynamic protection "Relic", and a more powerful engine. The T-72B3 is armed with a 125-mm smoothbore gun, which has received improved sabot shells such as Lead. ”
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  1. dsm100
    dsm100 20 May 2016 09: 16
    +23
    There are still a lot of 72 in storage. You can upgrade for a long time. But still, we are waiting for T-14 shipments to the troops.
    1. Alex_Rarog
      Alex_Rarog 20 May 2016 09: 25
      -6
      T-14 must be driven into the tank biathlon for a run-in) well, a couple of Syria)
      1. Max40
        Max40 20 May 2016 10: 12
        +3
        Quote: Alex_Rarog
        T-14 must be driven into the tank biathlon for a run-in) well, a couple of Syria)


        I set a minus. The topic has been beaten already.
    2. Error
      Error 20 May 2016 09: 31
      +2
      a contract for 100 valves has already been signed, so we are waiting soon!
      1. 111.
        111. 20 May 2016 09: 40
        +3
        oh right now in me and slippers will fly ... but curiosity prevails request it's all about these photos of the tower of Almaty
        1. 111.
          111. 20 May 2016 09: 41
          +2
          here is a closer picture
          1. 111.
            111. 20 May 2016 09: 43
            -3
            doesn’t it seem to anyone that the cannon and the module are coated with a piece of paper, thin as cardboard, that will fly apart like a house of cards at the first hit of the bird? not to mention the shell
            1. 111.
              111. 20 May 2016 09: 46
              -19%
              the tower of the same trainer will be seriously destroyed
              1. Rebus
                Rebus 20 May 2016 09: 50
                +9
                At least 2 people sit in the "Challenger" tower, from here and the dimensions ...
                1. 111.
                  111. 20 May 2016 09: 54
                  +2
                  Yes, no, rebus ... I'm not talking about sizes, I'm talking about the fact that the module with the gun is covered with a falcon (figuratively speaking)
                  1. otter.1
                    otter.1 20 May 2016 10: 49
                    +3
                    Where did you take the measurements? "It seems to me" is the argument!
                    The tower is uninhabited, nodes that require protection are protected.
                    And it also seems to him that the "Brita" tower is better protected, and apparently that is why the British Defense Ministry was worried about stowing its armored forces, from the Russian ones, but this is not "argumentation" and therefore the shit is fat, this is a cut at the Britons.
                  2. silver_roman
                    silver_roman 20 May 2016 11: 16
                    +5
                    the foil just covers, creating some rational angles. The armor is already following them. This has been discussed more than once. Shelling has already been carried out, sorry no one will tell us anything.
                    1. yehat
                      yehat 20 May 2016 13: 00
                      0
                      Well, at least something they can say?
                      for example, what is the effect of a shell from a leopard-2 gun
                  3. nemo778
                    nemo778 20 May 2016 12: 13
                    +7
                    Dear "111"! Take a closer look at the shape of the tower! Similar angles of inclination of the casing, not in order to ricochet the projectile, but to reduce the visibility on radars! Stealth technology (what do you think the forms of the American "penguins" F-35 and our T-50, why are they?) besides, most likely the casing is made of radio-absorbing materials! It only covers ERA and various "bells and whistles"! The tower itself is armored and there is no one in it! So why the extra thickness and slopes of the casing!
                    It's like walking in an invisible jacket with a vest under it! hiBy the way, various photos show that the elements of the jacket's casing can be easily changed if necessary! soldier
                  4. rubidiy
                    rubidiy 20 May 2016 14: 52
                    0
                    Quote: 111.
                    I'm talking about the fact that the module with the gun is covered with a falge (figuratively speaking)

                    it looks like your brain is prЕcovered fАby the ice. (figuratively speaking)
                    1. 111.
                      111. 20 May 2016 16: 02
                      -3
                      it looks like your brain is covered with shit (like you to us and we to you request ) and that so-called casing with a stealth coating and a special shape can also be cured with a good hammer and crowbar so that the native designer will not recognize it, expand your balls and carefully look at the thickness of the metal in the photo !!! ... not to mention a tank shell or hitting a burst with an armored personnel carrier or a BMP tk it will blow it away like the wind ... there will be something like Soviet T72 with dynamic protection on a weak rubber false side, namely, one hit and half of the protection on board is not there, despite the fact that it is smeared there for the most part it was ... what do you say, didn’t it? the designers did it right? how many hits the tank can be for a fight, and what will happen after a few hits with the tank? These rags? Oh yeah, you can replace it all with new ... yeah replace during the fighting as in the same syria try replace
                      1. 111.
                        111. 20 May 2016 16: 09
                        -1
                        the same british or usa approach to the sides has long been different, but only now we began to change the tires on sheets
                      2. 111.
                        111. 20 May 2016 16: 18
                        0
                        this is what stealth skin will look like in constant hostilities, more precisely what its remnants will be replaced
                      3. 111.
                        111. 20 May 2016 16: 22
                        -2
                        judge for yourself
                  5. Ustinov 055 055
                    Ustinov 055 055 20 May 2016 16: 23
                    +1
                    these rags - they did their job, protected the tank crew from death and fatal injuries, the tank is not designed to hit 4 enemy shells no matter how you twist it.
                  6. Ustinov 055 055
                    Ustinov 055 055 20 May 2016 16: 23
                    0
                    these rags - they did their job, protected the tank crew from death and fatal injuries, the tank is not designed to hit 4 enemy shells no matter how you twist it.
                  7. 111.
                    111. 20 May 2016 16: 39
                    -2
                    the fact that the tank is not lit in the photo does not mean that the crew remained alive, of course, God forbid that the defense worked BUT! can a battle in the city last for example more than a day? maybe! if the tank is not designed to be hit by at least 4 shells from the same RPG 7 shells which in some countries are sold like seeds, why do you need such a tank at all? for that kind of money! And what about the lives of people in it? smile -In 1991, after successful testing of the machine, the Ministry of Defense of Great Britain entered into a contract for the supply of a tank to the troops. From 1993 to 2002, about 400 units were released; by the end of the 90s, Challenger 2 completely replaced its predecessor in the Royal Armed Forces. The machine took part in the war in Iraq and proved to be truly invulnerable. So, in one of the battles, Challenger 2 was able to withstand about 70 hits from RPGs; The main damage was received from improvised mines installed along the routes. One tank was lost due to friendly fire.
                  8. 111.
                    111. 20 May 2016 16: 40
                    -1
                    70 hits ... even in the forehead, even with old shells but 70 !!
                  9. Forest
                    Forest 20 May 2016 17: 51
                    +1
                    70 hits is already a fiction. He withstood 12-15, and for a tank with reduced armor of the order of 1200-1300 mm from the CS grenade with penetration 300-350 mm - not a danger. In Chechnya, 80-ki also received 10-12 grenades both in the forehead and on board and the living ones left the battlefield.
                  10. 111.
                    111. 20 May 2016 18: 57
                    0
                    well, even 12-15 ... that's what I’m saying that a lot of shells can fly into a tank during a battle, and not only from RPGs, but also more powerful! We already figured out about photos with a rectangular module ... it was all photoshop. ..that..this topic is closed, initially the conversation was about stealth tower casing .. not about booking the tower, not that many here thought that as if I mean that if you bring down this casing the tower and the modules will remain unprotected and they will be dismantled, namely, about thin stealth casing! about the fact that it can be torn off by a projectile or shots of automatic guns! MAYBE can be torn off! THIS I wanted to discuss it with me laughingbecause of a conversation on literally 4-5 messages, the dispute broke out right up to insults!
                  11. 111.
                    111. 20 May 2016 19: 11
                    +1
                    here I found about 70 hits there was a typo that it was one tank but in reality there was a recorded case when during the battle one of the Challengers received 15 hits from anti-tank grenade launchers without breaking through the armor [21]. During the assault on Basra, about 70 hits from RPGs on the Challenger tanks were recorded without breaking through the armor [22].
                  12. Wild_grey_wolf
                    Wild_grey_wolf 20 May 2016 19: 18
                    +2
                    Quote: 111.
                    well, even 12-15 ... that's what I’m saying that a lot of shells can fly into a tank during a battle, and not only from RPGs, but also more powerful! We already figured out about photos with a rectangular module ... it was all photoshop. ..that..this topic is closed, initially the conversation was about stealth tower casing .. not about booking the tower, not that many here thought that as if I mean that if you bring down this casing the tower and the modules will remain unprotected and they will be dismantled, namely, about thin stealth casing! about the fact that it can be torn off by a projectile or shots of automatic guns! MAYBE can be torn off! THIS I wanted to discuss it with me laughingbecause of a conversation on literally 4-5 messages, the dispute broke out right up to insults!



                    Especially for you posted an article:
                    How Soviet armor defeated the German one. . .
                    I think now they are trying the same way to do everything perfectly.
                  13. 111.
                    111. 20 May 2016 19: 34
                    +1
                    read already)) thanks for the article drinks
                2. Forest
                  Forest 20 May 2016 19: 53
                  0
                  At Abrams, the sight is protected only from machine gun bullets, at Leo only bulletproof glass. The Challenger has enough visibility for the entire crew, so despite the hidden modules, it is very vulnerable in modern combat.
                3. Forest
                  Forest 20 May 2016 21: 54
                  0
                  Small enough review, I apologize for the inaccuracy.
      2. nemo778
        nemo778 20 May 2016 22: 07
        +1
        Dear! "111" You have not been on this site for too long! You just can't imagine how many copies are broken here, on the topic you raised! proven! Chely (tankers) for the third time marshals! Just tired of explaining to every newcomer! The T-14 simply has a different concept! This is a tank that is no longer in any army in the world! Under such a technique, the battle strategy will be rewritten in all armies! This is like a transition from a gun with a loading bullet, wad and gunpowder, to a gun with a unitary cartridge! This is new! The era in the tank building! And about your photos! You need to hammer in a nail with a hammer, not a microscope !!! hi Too lazy to look for links, but our T-72 in Chechnya withstood 5-7 RPG hits and left the battlefield on its own! soldierSyrians are so fighting from hopelessness !!! hi
      3. nemo778
        nemo778 20 May 2016 22: 57
        +1
        ON DISCOUNT !!! hi soldier hi
  • godofwar6699
    godofwar6699 20 May 2016 12: 13
    -2
    Challenger 2
  • Muvka
    Muvka 20 May 2016 09: 47
    +4
    From ptur not fly apart. There will be a small hole and that’s it. And so I think the designers are smarter than you at times.
    1. 111.
      111. 20 May 2016 09: 50
      +4
      so I don’t hint that I’m the smartest here and I don’t like to be clever at all)) I naturally like Armata, that's why I’m interested in it))
      1. 111.
        111. 20 May 2016 09: 51
        +5
        tower from the exhibition on the model more interesting
      2. zloybond
        zloybond 20 May 2016 10: 35
        0
        clever you love. seen by you. but when you are knocked down (a caterpillar or a motor) .at this time, the enemies walk on the armor and look for how to get you out of there so that you need to cut off at least a good turret with a machine gun, better coaxial. so that the fire support is strong, so that while you are sitting in a different capsule, you can be evacuated, you can continue to fight. Maybe even ags ....
        1. 111.
          111. 20 May 2016 10: 39
          +6
          Quote: zloybond
          clever you love. seen by you. but when you are knocked down (a caterpillar or a motor) .at this time, the enemies walk on the armor and look for how to get you out of there so that you need to cut off at least a good turret with a machine gun, better coaxial. so that the fire support is strong, so that while you are sitting in a different capsule, you can be evacuated, you can continue to fight. Maybe even ags ....

          I have 9 corridor education classes, an army and vocational school term is behind me ... even with all the desire, I won’t be able to clever laughing
          1. 111.
            111. 20 May 2016 10: 42
            +2
            turret with a machine gun is cool or with ags but I'm talking about the security of the module with a gun
          2. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 20 May 2016 14: 04
            0
            Quote: 111.
            Quote: zloybond
            clever you love. seen by you. but when you are knocked down (a caterpillar or a motor) .at this time, the enemies walk on the armor and look for how to get you out of there so that you need to cut off at least a good turret with a machine gun, better coaxial. so that the fire support is strong, so that while you are sitting in a different capsule, you can be evacuated, you can continue to fight. Maybe even ags ....

            I have 9 corridor education classes, an army and vocational school term is behind me ... even with all the desire, I won’t be able to clever laughing

            Come on, stop making excuses to this troll. He is just a boor who does not respect people with his opinion that does not coincide with his "cleverness". Look at what stupidity he writes: "at this time the enemies are walking around in armor and looking for how to get you out of there, so that you need to cut your head off at least a good turret with a machine gun." If the enemy walks on armor, then the "turret with a machine gun" will no longer help. The machine gun on the turret has a dead zone. The enemy knows about this and will simply attach an anti-tank mine or other disruptive kit to the tower and shandrah at it, and even easier, if there is an RPG, then it will destroy the tower from it, because no matter how you twist the turret of the tank, you simply cannot keep up with all the enemies surrounding the tank.
            1. 111.
              111. 20 May 2016 17: 48
              +1
              thanks alexey!
        2. yehat
          yehat 20 May 2016 13: 02
          0
          Well, for self-defense, you can come up with some disposable shrapnel or explode DZ. machine gun, and even with a turret - too bold.
    2. yehat
      yehat 20 May 2016 13: 01
      0
      the designer is not a god, but a man and not at all smarter than others, but he can be much more experienced.
  • mQn
    mQn 20 May 2016 09: 51
    +6
    100 times it has already been said about the casing, why it is needed and what functions it performs, look on the Internet, too lazy to explain
    1. otter.1
      otter.1 20 May 2016 10: 51
      -3
      And explain the hell to him, this is understandable to you, he apparently drove on an urgent shovel.
  • DenZ
    DenZ 20 May 2016 10: 03
    0
    Quote: 111.
    doesn’t it seem to anyone that the cannon and the module are coated with a piece of paper, thin as cardboard, that will fly apart like a house of cards at the first hit of the bird? not to mention the shell

    I certainly do not understand why there is no protection at all. They assume that they will not shoot at the tank and fall into it? Maybe someone in the know?
    1. 111.
      111. 20 May 2016 10: 15
      +3
      here I am talking about the same ... let's say if even from RPGs and ptur kaz and this casing will help, but what about sub-caliber shells? all over the walls aren’t so thick ... about the sub-caliber projectile and there’s nothing to say if it flies into the barrel, and though the 30 mm queue doesn’t break through, how will the electronics inside you feel after that?
      1. otter.1
        otter.1 20 May 2016 10: 55
        -1
        Have you heard anything about the electronic protection of Armata?
        Well, read about the latest military trials, there, once again, everything is described in detail about the means of electronic protection. I don't understand: "What if it breaks, the batteries run out, rust, etc., etc."
        Vocational school is power, but have you heard anything about self-education?
        1. 111.
          111. 20 May 2016 11: 44
          +1
          have you heard anything about self-education? and about the rules of good dance? or is it not obligatory to be polite on the Internet? on your part, there’s nothing at all with an empty air shake characteristic of people like you .... the crews of two wrecked T90 tanks in Syria tell us about electronic protection and the tank is primarily armor and not battery-powered kaz as you say
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  • Altona
    Altona 20 May 2016 11: 06
    +1
    Quote: 111.
    doesn’t it seem to anyone that the cannon and the module are coated with a piece of paper, thin as cardboard, that will fly apart like a house of cards at the first hit of the bird? not to mention the shell

    -------------------
    For the Americans, the superstructure of the "super destroyer" Zumwalt is generally made of balsa wood and carbon fiber like cross-country skis. So what? You tell them "security considerations" too. There are the same "lapotniki" as we design, 3D-draftsmen. They do not know that "strong and knowledgeable" comrades are sitting on the forums, who know where and what to weld, because they have repeatedly fingered their UAZ and studied resistance at the institute.
    1. yehat
      yehat 20 May 2016 13: 05
      -1
      laughing how did this tower at Zamvolt not fall apart yet?
      1. 111.
        111. 20 May 2016 18: 18
        0
        it's not about the tower itself, but about thin skin - stealth skin on the tower
  • Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 20 May 2016 12: 58
    +1
    Quote: 111.
    doesn’t it seem to anyone that the cannon and the module are coated with a piece of paper, thin as cardboard, that will fly apart like a house of cards at the first hit of the bird? not to mention the shell

    This is a "light body".
    The main advantage of the uninhabited tower is precisely that the main reservation in it is protected only by a compact gun module. And systems hung over this module (optics, electronics, KAZ) are protected by a shatterproof casing of smaller thickness - this is the casing that we see. As a result, due to the smaller reserved volume of the tower, you can reduce the weight of the tower and strengthen the protection of the tank due to the saved mass.

    By the way, last year bmpd had a triumphant relay of one of our armored factories: it was reported that they mastered the production of a new type of armor of small thickness and increased resistance - for a new tank.
    1. 111.
      111. 20 May 2016 13: 49
      0
      Thanks for the interesting answer!
  • Forest
    Forest 20 May 2016 17: 46
    0
    DZ something needs to be covered, plus special coverage. You can easily replace this screen. The T-90 DZ also hides under the armor.
  • yehat
    yehat 20 May 2016 12: 57
    0
    and why on the tower is somehow quite modest with protection?
    if a gun is broken or sighting equipment, the tank will turn into a tractor of little use
    and I’m also curious - is it planned to install some kind of small-scale anti-aircraft weapons, and if so, how to use it, there are no people at the top, there is no good view for detecting targets.
    1. Forest
      Forest 20 May 2016 17: 55
      0
      So you can’t hide sights and a gun under armor, just keep it cool.
  • 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 20 May 2016 10: 36
    +2
    Quote: 111.
    oh right now in me and slippers will fly ... but curiosity prevails request it's all about these photos of the tower of Almaty

    I will allow myself to assume that this is precisely the armored tower, in which all the automation is hidden. But without DZ, and that same notorious casing, about which much is written below (about the Falga and cardboard).
    Those. Tower, on the DZ tower, over the DZ lightly armored casing (bullets, fragments, etc.)
    But these are my thoughts ...
    1. 111.
      111. 20 May 2016 10: 59
      0
      as a pancake for more powerful I would like this casing at larger angles and thick-walled to be request on the layout there’s what a cool tower ... maybe they’ll do it later with a 150 mm cannon
      1. yehat
        yehat 20 May 2016 13: 08
        -1
        and what's cool about it besides design?
      2. Forest
        Forest 20 May 2016 17: 56
        0
        Now booking angles no longer affect security greatly. Some shells are even easier to pierce inclined armor than direct.
  • amirbek
    amirbek 20 May 2016 11: 51
    0
    Quote: 111.
    oh right now in me and slippers to fly ...

    from the beginning the hammer and the anvil then everything else
    and it’s good that there is no high-tech and feng shui in it hi
  • Andrey K
    Andrey K 20 May 2016 09: 36
    +10
    Quote: dsm100
    There are still a lot of 72 in storage. You can upgrade for a long time. But still, we are waiting for T-14 shipments to the troops.

    UVZ hangs more modern "devices" on the T-72 and brings them to the level of the T-90 good
    Modest, budget, but effective good
    Why push a ton of money into the production of one when you can upgrade a dozen with the same funds. Those in combat units and stocks are more than enough for ourselves and for sale. Moreover, as you correctly noted, there is a T-14, according to which it has already been determined in the required quantity of 2500 units yes
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 20 May 2016 10: 16
      +1
      Ask how much the T-90 costs and how much modernization. The difference there is 1,5 times, perhaps the prices are taken from different years and in fact it is more than 2 .... more likely, but not 10 times. + upgraded still differ from the latest 90-k versions
      1. Andrey K
        Andrey K 20 May 2016 11: 00
        +8
        Interested in:
        2,6 million dollars for 1 unit T-90 and from 100 to 120 t. Dollars. Modernization of T-72 hi
        Two maths for you and reprimand your teacher according to you hi
        Your: "The difference there is 1,5 times, perhaps the prices are taken from different years and in fact it is more than 2 .... more likely, but not 10 times"... not otherwise, as taken from the ceiling negative
        Respect your colleagues, before you write something, double-check ... No.
        Well ugly, by golly request
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 20 May 2016 13: 27
          +2
          Quote: Andrey K
          Interested in:
          2,6 million dollars for 1 unit T-90 and from 100 to 120 t. Dollars. Modernization of T-72

          It is better to take the prices of one year.
          The decision to refuse to purchase T-90 was made when UVZ rolled out a new price - 118 million rubles for the new T-90 (moreover, the MO then bought the tank in almost minimal configuration).
          In the same year, it was decided to purchase the upgraded T-72B3 at a price of 52 million rubles. apiece (30 million - overhaul of a machine taken from storage + 22 million - new systems).

          An additional advantage of the T-72B3 is the lower labor intensity of production - the hull, gun and "iron" filling have already been made and require only troubleshooting and overhaul. There is no need to cook and cast the same armor parts and make a weapon.
  • Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 20 May 2016 12: 39
    0
    Quote: dsm100
    There are still a lot of 72 in storage. You can upgrade for a long time. But still, we are waiting for T-14 shipments to the troops.

    All the same, the active protection complex is necessary for modern tanks, but they were deprived of the T-72B3 during modernization.
  • Muvka
    Muvka 20 May 2016 09: 26
    +2
    Here they are, new handsome men. And someone here on the forum I remember did not believe in a new modification. Although the pictures are clearly not them.
    P.S. well, yes, photo of 2013)
    1. svp67
      svp67 20 May 2016 09: 30
      +4
      Quote: Muvka
      Although the pictures are clearly not them.
      P.S. well, yes, photo of 2013)

      I would very much like to believe. Since that "modification" that is in the photo can not be called other than "sabotage" ...
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 20 May 2016 09: 34
        0
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: Muvka
        Although the pictures are clearly not them.
        P.S. well, yes, photo of 2013)

        I would very much like to believe. Since that "modification" that is in the photo can not be called other than "sabotage" ...

        I agree, and so the photo does not have enough gratings from the MTO, and DZ on the sides and around the tower, instead of a minimum of spare parts.
        1. DMB_95
          DMB_95 20 May 2016 10: 37
          0
          Hopeless "hole" in the forehead of the tower in the photo, I hope, will be closed.
          1. Muvka
            Muvka 20 May 2016 13: 22
            0
            Quote: DMB_95
            Hopeless "hole" in the forehead of the tower in the photo, I hope, will be closed.

            As far as I know, the relict covers a large area.
    2. wizarden
      wizarden 20 May 2016 09: 44
      +1
      Here is a picture of 2015, it seems they are no different in appearance.
      From here: http://bastion-opk.ru/t-72b3-tank/
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 20 May 2016 09: 48
        0
        Quote: wizarden
        Here is a picture of 2015, it seems they are no different in appearance.
        From here: http://bastion-opk.ru/t-72b3-tank/

        A new modification only this year began to produce. This is an old man.
  • sys-1985
    sys-1985 20 May 2016 09: 43
    +1
    This is exactly the modification of the T72B3
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 20 May 2016 09: 51
    +4
    Quote: Alex_Rarog
    T-14 must be driven into the tank biathlon for a run-in) well, a couple of Syria)

    It’s too early for biathlon, this is only our car, and it will not be for a long time at the partners. But to Syria - nonsense! The secret machine is the main target for reconnaissance of the NATO countries, and they will not stand up for anything to get it in any form.
  • Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 20 May 2016 09: 59
    +2
    Congratulations to the 21st Separate Guards Red Banner Omsk-Novobugskaya Order of Bogdan Khmelnitsky 2nd degree motorized rifle brigade with a significant update of the tank fleet. Considering that in winter they received 10 brand new Grads, it is clear that they do not forget about strengthening their combat capabilities. There should be everything. And given that there are 2 tank battalions in it, there is still room for new equipment. And everyone remembers the statement of one important person from the Ministry of Defense that "Armata" will go exactly to heavy brigades.
    1. Jamuqa
      Jamuqa 20 May 2016 13: 53
      0
      The 27th Guards Rifle Omsk-Novobug Red Banner Order of the Bohdan Khmelnytsky Division was peacekeeping, the tanks there were not particularly under scrutiny. It is glad that the tank fleet of the home division is being updated
  • erased
    erased 20 May 2016 10: 28
    0
    30 tanks is a battalion kit. Just to the battalion in the motorized rifle brigade. Although there are 40 cars in the state.
    On other sites it is written that the anti-aircraft machine gun is transferred to manual control instead of remote.
    And while everyone is voting about "economical and profitable T-72B3" only one hundred T-14 orders from the Ministry of Defense. Dap to wait until all the announced 2300 vehicles enter the army?
    Who said - "won't wait"? ..
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 20 May 2016 12: 09
      +3
      The troops will probably receive 2300 t72b3 in the coming years. 2300 valves even for 10 years I doubt it. Armats will receive elite parts and parts standing in dangerous directions, and the main part will be t72b3. In hundreds of 5 fittings I believe. They are unlikely to order more because there is no need. We have about 8-9 thousand tons72 in storage and in the troops. No one will buy thousands of uber-waffles if there is an opportunity to inexpensively upgrade and capitalize these thousands of tons72. soldier Well, the fact that in the telly they say about 2300 armatures - well, you never know what they say. That's when a contract is concluded - this is a document, but you can say anything.
  • Taygerus
    Taygerus 20 May 2016 10: 30
    0
    arming slowly, but systematically and it’s great! good
  • Merchant
    Merchant 20 May 2016 10: 34
    +1
    Well, again, the T-72 arrived in the army, well, how much better it is possible to buy old stuff a little less, but the new T-90 and T-14 !!! am
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 20 May 2016 10: 50
      +1
      Quote: Merchant
      Well, again, the T-72 arrived in the army, well, how much better it is possible to buy old stuff a little less, but the new T-90 and T-14 !!! am

      In fact, 72 are not produced or purchased. They are being upgraded. And it is very cheap. But it’s effective.
    2. otter.1
      otter.1 20 May 2016 11: 02
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      As much as necessary, a great car, but about Star Wars, this is not the right place.
  • Stas157
    Stas157 20 May 2016 11: 15
    +2
    30 tanks T-72B3 entered the motorized rifle unit of the Central Military District

    Hope with air conditioning?
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 20 May 2016 13: 22
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      Quote: Stas157
      30 tanks T-72B3 entered the motorized rifle unit of the Central Military District

      Hope with air conditioning?

      At least with cameras and a display for the driver;)
  • 111.
    111. 20 May 2016 11: 20
    +1
    Quote: otter.1
    Where did you take the measurements? "It seems to me" is the argument!
    The tower is uninhabited, nodes that require protection are protected.
    And it also seems to him that the "Brita" tower is better protected, and apparently that is why the British Defense Ministry was worried about stowing its armored forces, from the Russian ones, but this is not "argumentation" and therefore the shit is fat, this is a cut at the Britons.

    the British were really worried? did you read an article somewhere on the internet or did they tell you on TV in the news? like all of NATO is shocked ... has no analogues ... etc. and etc.? only in Russia, scientists and designers are smart and abroad all stupid? do not win the war with tanks alone! ... war is the resources and, first of all, human resources, one on one with none of them, neither America nor England nor anyone else will fight .. therefore we take the entire population of Russia -140 million and now we take the entire population of NATO countries and even heaps of well-wishing countries that are not members of NATO but who will join in to help the NATO forces .. for example, Japan ... how many of them are there all together? Under a billion? Against 140 million? And everyone is afraid of armature ? And the Challenger by the way is a powerful and battle-tested tank and its armor is worthy is a fact
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  • Peacemaker
    Peacemaker 20 May 2016 11: 46
    +1
    I doubt that the Uralvagonzavod, having many years of experience in creating tanks and relying on the design school inherited from the union, has launched a weak tank. No one will forgive them for this. And when accepting the MO did not consider all the strengths and weaknesses of Almaty. Excessive emotions are superfluous here. There is a tank. It is undergoing tests and will soon be put into service.
    And what kind of casing is there, from which, plywood or foil, does not matter. More important, how does it all work together.
  • 31rus2
    31rus2 20 May 2016 11: 55
    +1
    Dear, the savings on modernization will affect either the subsequent modernization, which again will lead to a waste of money, or on combat effectiveness, this has already been proven Ukraine, Syria
  • 111.
    111. 20 May 2016 12: 01
    +2
    Quote: otter.1
    The opinion should be reasoned, I’m sorry, you have no opinion, but questions that you either didn’t bother to find for your inattention or laziness (the second one), but started a polemic here out of the blue, and the rest were led.

    that's just the point, I'm at the very beginning about that and I say that I am to people with QUESTION !! WITH QUESTION !! about the tower! I ASK THERE !!! how else can I tell you? I say there in my comments at the beginning about communication and information exchange for which this site was created !!! where only these come from out of the blue they manage to find a poop and pick it with their fingers with relish ... about vocational schools and other things, the joke was more likely to be on your own and you insulted yourself ... you spoiled talking with such people ... it’s better to throw such a folder on your wall at one time request
  • yehat
    yehat 20 May 2016 12: 52
    -2
    I don’t stick something, HOW is the t72 connected with motorized rifles?
    and if they replaced by not the new t72B3, then what did they change?
    which tank was there? Imagination draws such stories:
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 20 May 2016 13: 19
      +2
      Quote: yehat
      I don’t stick something, HOW is the t72 connected with motorized rifles?

      Ahem ... actually, motorized rifle divisions from the time of the USSR have tank battalions in the shelves. Moreover, the tank infantry regiment regularly had more tanks than the tank regiment.
      Quote: yehat
      and if they replaced by not the new t72B3, then what did they change?

      At present, the T-72BZ is the newest and only mass-produced tank for the RF Armed Forces. Though Omsk Tagil seems to have been ordered the T-72B4, a "revised and improved" version of the T-72B3.

      Prior to the T-72B3, there could be anything in motorized rifle battles — anything from the T-62 to the T-72B. Especially in the Central Military District - for the inner and eastern districts were equipped with new equipment secondarily.
  • gg.na
    gg.na 20 May 2016 13: 13
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    Well, the T-72B3 is also a normal car! Of course, not the top of perfection, but you must admit that all the same (30 pcs T-72B3) will be much better than nothing at all! A military unit with a number and maybe even a name like a motorized rifle type or a tank there winked and not even a single seedy tank corps what kh-kh !!! Somehow it will be completely sour sad part is ..., the name of the part is ..., even a pancake, the combat banner of the part will be !!! And not a single tank request !!! Let there be at least such T-72B3 tanks! And that is bread! Well, the time will come and change the old equipment - armor for a newer and more perfect! Of course, everything still depends on who will control the car in battle! If they put me on such a car, I won't pass 10 cm and I won't fight for 1 minute. As they say about people like me - "The carburetor does not suck, the flywheel throws the earth, it was not in the bobbin raztavray (this is me about myself) wassat I was sitting in the cockpit! "If people like me are imprisoned and forced to fight, I think that we will not No. will covet!
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 20 May 2016 13: 24
      0
      Quote: gg.na
      Well, the T-72B3 is also a normal car! Of course, not the top of perfection, but you must admit that all the same (30 pcs T-72B3) will be much better than nothing at all! A military unit with a number and maybe even a name like a motorized rifle type or a tank there winked and not even a single seedy tank corps what kh-kh !!! Somehow it will be completely sour sad part is ..., the name of the part is ..., even a pancake, the combat banner of the part will be !!! And not a single tank request !!! Let there be at least such T-72B3 tanks! And that is bread! Well, the time will come and change the old equipment - armor for a newer and more perfect! Of course, everything still depends on who will control the car in battle! If they put me on such a car, I won't pass 10 cm and I won't fight for 1 minute. As they say about people like me - "The carburetor does not suck, the flywheel throws the earth, it was not in the bobbin raztavray (this is me about myself) wassat I was sitting in the cockpit! "If people like me are imprisoned and forced to fight, I think that we will not No. will covet!

      Fresh 72 is not worse than abrams at least, but it seems to me better.
  • 111.
    111. 20 May 2016 17: 08
    -1
    Quote: rubidiy
    Quote: 111.
    I'm talking about the fact that the module with the gun is covered with a falge (figuratively speaking)

    it looks like your brain is prЕcovered fАby the ice. (figuratively speaking)

    what would you find spelling errors you will stick your nose in a notebook to your children or wife in the phone where the folder with incoming SMS hi and I’m not here at the spelling exam and you’re nobody to me ... the atom was found wise guy .. he’s looking for errors
  • Merchant
    Merchant 21 May 2016 10: 06
    +1
    Please understand that modernization is good, but you must already purchase new ones. And then we send T-90 for export, but only modernization for ourselves !!! And I know that our tanks with all sorts of necessary bells and whistles for some reason do not equip, they say it is expensive, but for export please !!! am