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Alfa-Bank intends to file an application to declare bankrupt the corporation "Uralvagonzavod"

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Alfa-Bank intends to go to court with the requirement to declare bankrupt Uralvagonzavod, reports TASS information of the “Unified Federal Register on the facts of the activities of legal entities”.


Alfa-Bank intends to file an application to declare bankrupt the corporation "Uralvagonzavod"


The registry says: “Alfa-Bank JSC notifies of its intention to appeal to the arbitration court with a statement recognizing JSC Dralzhinsky Scientific and Production Corporation Uralvagonzavod Named F. insolvent (bankrupt)”.

Meanwhile, the press service of the bank said they expect to “find a compromise” with “Uralvagonzavod”.

“The bank does not stop trying to find compromise solutions. Negotiations continue now. Unfortunately, we have not yet been offered acceptable options. Nevertheless, we hope to reach a compromise, ”the credit institution said.

TASS Help: “Uralvagonzavod” is a Russian corporation engaged in the development and production of military equipment, road-building machines, and railroad cars. It includes more than 40 industrial enterprises, research institutes, design bureaus. The parent company is Uralvagonzavod in Nizhny Tagil. 100% of the corporation’s shares is owned by the state. ”
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Donat Sorokin / TASS
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  1. Balagan
    Balagan 19 May 2016 17: 38
    +14
    Shaw, again? sad
    Do not get enough guys either ...
    1. Sharky
      Sharky 19 May 2016 17: 42
      +43
      Probably for a long time the large banks have not been revoked the license. am
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 19 May 2016 17: 43
        +4
        IZhmash when bankrupt all VO was in groans, it was discussed on all branches.

        But in fact, it turned out to be a usual routine financial transaction, after which we already read a sufficient amount of news from the same bankrupt IZhmash.

        I am not an economist, but I understand that bankruptcy is not always evil.

        PS> before the bankruptcy procedure, Izhmash owed 19 rubles.

        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 19 May 2016 17: 53
          +10
          Quote: s-t Petrov
          IZhmash when bankrupt all VO was in groans, it was discussed on all branches.

          But in fact, it turned out to be a usual routine financial transaction, after which we already read a sufficient amount of news from the same bankrupt IZhmash.
          well, yes, not evil ... someone ... bankrupt, bought, cheaply, this is now such a "privatization" ... the pulling away of Russia continues ...
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 19 May 2016 17: 57
            +7
            So that IZhmash was eventually stolen after bankruptcy?

            or is everything going on and still being pulled away? What sluggish enemies do not pull away

            Also, machines are updated after bankruptcy. request

            1. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 19 May 2016 18: 35
              +6
              Quote: s-t Petrov
              So that IZhmash was eventually stolen after bankruptcy?

              why did they take away ... leeches sucked in there. do you know that Izhmash went bankrupt in a lawsuit in the amount of 800 rubles? (price of a foreign car) !!! Thanks to the bankruptcy, Izhmash, on the one hand, kept the brand and property of the company, and on the other hand, Finally, the arrests were removed from the accounts of the enterprise and the previous court decisions, which seriously impede Izhmash's business, were suspended: http: //newsru.com/finance/000apr06/izhmash.html.
              Further, in terms of treatment of the enterprise, there is the transfer of specialized production assets, personnel and contracts to a new, clean, special created by OJSC Izhmash NPO - a wholly-owned subsidiary of Russian Technologies: http://www.vedomosti.ru/companies/news/1613186/ arbitrazh_udmurtii_priznal_izhmas

              .bankrotom. I no longer want to write about Kandelaki, who "shod" the corporation for 1.5 lemon bucks, for "rebranding" a drawing that a child down could draw ... (and after that, you can't open your "match" channel ? ....
              1. smershxnumx
                smershxnumx 19 May 2016 21: 57
                +6
                Yes, about bankrupt ...
                -OJSC "Energomash" (aka Eletrotyazhmash, aka Elmash ...) was privatized, torn apart, in short, pissed off ... He practically died.

                -OJSC "Ural Turbomotor Plant" ... Ruined ... Bankrupt ... Divided ... Survived after LLC "Ural Motor Plant" ... Again ready for bankruptcy ...

                - OJSC "Uralmash" ... It's a shame to say ... But the "plant of factories" is more likely dead than alive. Part of the Gazprom group ... (????)

                Uralkhimmash OJSC is still alive ... Because it was bought with giblets by Gazprom ...

                There were attempts to do the same with OJSC "Uraltransmash" - however, there were attempts, but nothing happened !!!
              2. Cat man null
                Cat man null 19 May 2016 22: 02
                -7
                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                Thanks to the bankruptcy of Izhmash, on the one hand, it retained the brand and property of the company, and on the other hand, arrests were finally removed from the company’s accounts and earlier court decisions were suspended, which seriously complicated Izhmash’s business
                Further in terms of treatment of the enterprise is the transfer of specialized production assets, personnel and contracts to a new, clean, special establishment of OAO Izhmash - a wholly-owned subsidiary of Russian Technologies

                In-in .. here (almost) for some reason everyone believes that the bankruptcy of an enterprise is equal to the destruction of this enterprise .. which is fundamentally wrong request

                Only, this .. the amount there was not 800 thousand rubles, but just 000 rubles, yes ..
          2. SPACE
            SPACE 19 May 2016 19: 05
            0
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            well, yes, not evil ... someone ... bankrupt, bought, cheaply, this is now such a "privatization" ... the pulling away of Russia continues ...

            ))) And what is a state? An important but absolutely abstract concept, tomorrow, in the conditions of liberal freedoms and a democratic choice of the herd of sheep, an idiot will come to power or, worse, a pro-foreign Judas and ask where your state will be, the Plant and you ?, you can not answer, a vivid example in plain sight ...
            UVZ is a very necessary, important and profitable plant, but it has one small problem, it is a state one, and therefore to some extent a draw, and now it will become half the factory of Friedman of one of the real custodians of the foundations of statehood and only then they will start making Armata))) to whom pulling away, and to whom the collection of Russian lands, it all depends on who sees how far ...
            1. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 19 May 2016 19: 40
              +11
              Quote: SPACE
              and now it will become half the Friedman factory of one of the real guardians of the foundations of statehood

              wow ... really? Misha the guardian? custodian banker? Misha Friedman, the keeper of the foundations of the Russian land? laughing
              1. SPACE
                SPACE 19 May 2016 20: 19
                -7
                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                wow ... really? Misha the guardian? custodian banker? Misha Fridman, the keeper of the foundations of the Russian land

                The oligarchs of the Russian Empire
                Menshikov Alexander Danilovich
                Stroganov Anika Fedorovich
                Demidov Nikita Demidovich
                Perlov Vasily Alekseevich
                Putilov Nikolay Ivanovich
                Tretyakov Pavel Mikhailovich
                Vtorov Alexander Fedorovich
                ... they always were and will be ...
                1. Andrey Yuryevich
                  Andrey Yuryevich 20 May 2016 03: 00
                  +3
                  Quote: SPACE
                  The oligarchs of the Russian Empire

                  I don't see Misha Fridman among them ... and yes: did he also create his own "empire" like the Demidovs or the Stroganovs? (found a comparison!)
                2. Velizariy
                  Velizariy 20 May 2016 08: 34
                  +1
                  The oligarchs of the Russian Empire
                  Menshikov Alexander Danilovich
                  Stroganov Anika Fedorovich
                  Demidov Nikita Demidovich
                  Perlov Vasily Alekseevich
                  Putilov Nikolay Ivanovich
                  Tretyakov Pavel Mikhailovich
                  Vtorov Alexander Fedorovich
                  Notice! All mine! Not a single woman ... sorry, Jew!)
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 20 May 2016 08: 40
                    +4
                    Quote: Velizariy
                    Notice! All mine!

                    Something tells me that if it’s good to delve into history, then next to these great people we will find, but not one
                    Quote: Velizariy
                    excuse me ... Jew!
                3. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 20 May 2016 11: 39
                  0
                  Quote: SPACE
                  ... they always were and will be ...

                  Joked, huh? Put the list of current oligarchs, all as one - Gussian. angry
            2. Cat man null
              Cat man null 19 May 2016 22: 05
              +6
              Quote: SPACE
              to whom the pulling away, and to whom the collection of Russian lands, it all depends on who sees how far ...

              - don’t need Misha Fridman there .. a rare son of a dog, I crossed paths with him .. I know a little ..
              - IMHO they will stupidly send Alpha, as they already once sent. Moreover, the sums declared there are not children’s, obviously the guys want to cut down the money .. like Khodorkovsky-2 ..
          3. atalef
            atalef 20 May 2016 12: 24
            +2
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            well, yes, not evil ... someone ... bankrupt, bought, cheaply, this is now such a "privatization" ... the pulling away of Russia continues ...

            That's right, go bankrupt, write off debts and start another cut before the next bankruptcy.
        2. Alexez
          Alexez 19 May 2016 17: 57
          +3
          It's not an economist, but a lawyer. Firstly, if UVZ is declared bankrupt (of which I am not so sure), an arbitration manager will be appointed according to the procedure, who, in turn, will have to evaluate the assets with the help of appraisers and actually conduct a sale of the property, divide the profit among the debtors.
          1. vovanpain
            vovanpain 19 May 2016 18: 14
            +27
            Quote: Alexez
            It's not an economist, but a lawyer.

            Here, most likely, not an economist or a lawyer, but comrade Lavrenty Palych Beria and the NKVD and Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin and the CPSU (b) are needed.
            Quote: Alexez
            which in turn will have to evaluate assets with the help of appraisers and actually conduct a sale of property, divide the profit among the debtors.

            Well, yes, yes, yes, the mortgage auctions in 1996-1998 remind you when the biggest enterprises gave such Friedman, Deripaska, Prokhorov and other evil spirits for nothing, it smells bad.
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 20 May 2016 00: 31
              -3
              Vladimir, hi

              There, not everything is so bad, in fact:

              Quote: http://www.novostibankrotstva.ru/2016/04/01/alfa-bank-podal-zayavlenie-o-bankrot
              stve-dochki-uralvagonzavoda / # ixzz498TIv5bu
              The Arbitration Court of the Sverdlovsk Region registered a statement of Alfa Bank on bankruptcy of the Uraltransmash JSC controlled by Uralvagonzavod JSCproducing trams

              Alfa Bank declined to comment. A source familiar with the situation told RIA Novosti that the bank intends to resolve the issue during the negotiations, and therefore does not want a public discussion. “Even after filing a lawsuit, there is an opportunity to reach an agreement. The bank is interested in resolving all issues in the pre-trial procedure.", - added a source familiar with the case.

              That is:

              - no one is trying on UVZ itself No.
              - most likely, there will be a kind of settlement. They will pay something, restructure something, as it is fashionable to say right now

              And all request

              Siteik, by the way, is funny: Bankruptcy News: www.novostibankrotstva.ru

              Voooot .. yes
          2. Observer2014
            Observer2014 19 May 2016 19: 40
            +13
            "Alfa-Bank intends to file a petition to declare bankruptcy of Uralvagonzavod corporation"
            Choosing between UVZ and Alfa Bank, I choose UVZ. If suddenly tomorrow Alfa Bank ceases to exist, no one will cry.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 19 May 2016 21: 30
              +3
              Alfa Bank will cease to exist, no one will cry.


              Something tells me that the one who has a deposit in this bank is still not very happy
              1. asiat_61
                asiat_61 20 May 2016 04: 09
                +2
                "Citizens! Keep money at the Savings Bank!"
          3. okunevich_rv
            okunevich_rv 20 May 2016 04: 05
            0
            There is no economist and lawyer needed, here you need an activist like Lavrenty Pavlovich who would ask law enforcement agencies and ministers what is stopping you from dealing with the activities of the privatizers - bankers and how much money they have turned out, if you don’t figure it out, you will stand against one wall.
        3. Abbra
          Abbra 19 May 2016 18: 23
          +2
          I don’t understand this pattern: St Petrov expressed his opinion. From my point of view, it’s not even controversial - just the opinion of the VO participant. And then minuses fell on him. The question is - why the hell?
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 19 May 2016 18: 25
            +3
            This is HELLO! When people feel HELLO, but especially do not want to delve into what is happening - the hand is automatically aimed at minus

            Especially when the BANKERS again say to someone that debts must be paid

            Everyone remembers their loans and how they did not want to give them back, so of course the bank is guilty.

            the state will contribute money and the issue will be quietly forgotten, as well as the bankruptcy of Izhmash. The plant will continue to make tanks and wagons, and at the VO forum, conversations about betrayal and evil will continue

            1. sherp2015
              sherp2015 19 May 2016 18: 54
              +2
              Quote: s-t Petrov
              Especially when the BANKERS again say to someone that debts must be paid

              Everyone remembers their loans and how they did not want to give them back, so of course the bank is guilty.

              As I understand it, are you related to banks, or to structures buying up state property on the cheap?
              Well then, your love for grabbing structures is clear
              1. St Petrov
                St Petrov 19 May 2016 19: 00
                +1
                contacted the bank once because of stupidity and youth)
                I prefer to save, because I'm not the richest to overpay.

                But reading about zrada is fun. Experiences forum users. Calls and screams of gang))

                And on the topic, I’m ready to argue with you for money that in 2017 Uralvagonzavod, like in 1999, will make tanks and wagons and after these moans, which mean absolutely nothing in this evil capitalist world, everything will return to square one - because the country needs tanks and wagons. And paperwork and bankruptcy proceedings are temporary.

                1. ism_ek
                  ism_ek 19 May 2016 19: 40
                  +1
                  Quote: s-t Petrov
                  contacted the bank once because of stupidity and youth)
                  I prefer to save, because I'm not the richest to overpay.

                  Now it’s impossible without banks; the state and state-owned companies are breaking their hands on industrialists. Rosneft has a standard deferred payment of 90 days .... But you must pay your salary right away, taxes are also paid upon completion of work.
                  Since January, defense enterprises have not received a dime from the state. They live off loans.
                  1. Alf
                    Alf 19 May 2016 22: 43
                    +3
                    Quote: ism_ek
                    Now it’s impossible without banks; the state and state-owned companies are breaking their hands on industrialists. Rosneft has a standard deferred payment of 90 days .... But you must pay your salary right away, taxes are also paid upon completion of work.
                    Since January, defense enterprises have not received a dime from the state. They live off loans.

                    Yeah, the state will eventually transfer money to the plants. BUT! Banks will immediately withdraw the invested amounts, and even with interest. And something tells me that the percentage will not be 5 or 7, somewhat more. Then the plant will be in an even deeper ass.
        4. activator
          activator 19 May 2016 19: 33
          +4
          Quote: s-t Petrov
          I am not an economist, but I understand that bankruptcy is not always evil.

          Well, in principle, the question is only who is bankrupt and for what, but in the case of UWZ, I think no one will protect him laughing . Perhaps there are debts that no one is going to give to anyone else and they understand this at the bank, but but they have these debts hanging they need to be written off on the basis of something, I think no one will be able to resell and here it is probably not a fact that it should be alpha to the bank. The plant may have other litigations with other banks, enforcement actions, seizure of accounts, etc. may be applied. And so, please, the ZVU company (wagon ural factory) bought all the property of UVZ smile and all a new life without debts. Creditors were given one hundred rubles for everyone (supposedly all the bankrupt’s property costs so much) well, and everyone is not very happy with someone. It is clear that all this looks like a condom pulled over a hedgehog, but all rightfully dig up the figs. winked But it is so very abstract and very general.
        5. smershxnumx
          smershxnumx 19 May 2016 19: 43
          +2
          From my own experience ... One VERY IMPORTANT defense plant owed a lot to a commercial bank ... No negotiations led to a reduction in debt ... The head of the enterprise squandered everything right and left ... The head was changed to another in connection with the initiation of several criminal cases on very serious clauses with respect to the previous one ... The plant paid off its debts to the bank (of course, very restructured "on the advice" of very competent authorities) within eight months ... And most likely the loans were issued by Alfa-Bank under state guarantees.
          So the situation most likely just looks like this: this bank is simply "breathing badly".
      2. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 19 May 2016 18: 56
        +2
        Probably a long time ago (very) people trying to make such a fraud were put up against the wall ... Aw! Guarantor, is it time to stop this liberal bacchanalia?
        1. Alf
          Alf 19 May 2016 22: 45
          +1
          Quote: dmi.pris
          Aw! Guarantor, is it time to stop this liberal bacchanalia?

          Guarantor-We will continue to liberalize the economy.
          Any questions ?
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      4. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 19 May 2016 22: 49
        +2
        Awesome example when huckster bankers dictate the rules and can destroy a defense enterprise.
        Grisha Kotovsky will come to you soon.
        And the expropriation of the expropriators is just around the corner.
        you are all temporary workers on our earth.
      5. I am human
        I am human 20 May 2016 09: 28
        0
        Enemies entrenched in financial circles and the ministry
    2. HERMES
      HERMES 19 May 2016 17: 50
      +1
      Alfa-Bank intends to sue Uralvagonzavod Corporation bankrupt

      And these "patriots" support our economy and financial system.
      How long will you search for the fifth column? Hint to you - where to find them?
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 19 May 2016 17: 51
        0
        and only patriots from the VO forum do not give a final finish to our economy?)

        I read on the Internet about the wretched Finnish government since 2002 (how the Internet appeared at home) and also about how everything will fall in the Russian Federation, the economy will collapse, and Siluanov and Naybulina (Kudrin, it’s not important) is evil

        I’ve already sprinkled ash on my head and even thought about digging up and planting a garden - but while we breathe something, rubles are not given out in kilograms and so on

        And they always told me that it’s just that oil costs more than $ 100, but when it costs even 80, then it’s for sure that we’re covered, because we have sorrow economists.


        1. SPACE
          SPACE 19 May 2016 19: 48
          -1
          Quote: s-t Petrov
          and only patriots from the VO forum

          hi good
          And yet they are necessary, the element w, the power of justice but without a vector, this is how much energy disappears in vain, you need to unobtrusively direct it in the right direction, and there you look and the thinker herself will begin to cycle)))
      2. avdkrd
        avdkrd 19 May 2016 18: 09
        +9
        Quote: HERMES
        Alfa-Bank intends to sue Uralvagonzavod Corporation bankrupt

        And these "patriots" support our economy and financial system.
        How long will you search for the fifth column? Hint to you - where to find them?

        What does the fifth column have to do with it? No need to be likened to kaklams with zrad at every turn. Alpha is certainly not the most impeccable bank, but it is MANDATORY to demand a loan return, since otherwise it will pay taxes for it itself. If the company does not fulfill credit obligations to the bank, then this is an economic issue and it is also a question for the state, which allowed the privatization of a strategic enterprise and, through its actions (inaction), forced it to enter the commercial credit market. Again - since this is a strategic enterprise, then why is the issue not resolved at the state level? Maybe the fifth column is not in the Friedman Bank, but in completely different offices?
        1. uwzek
          uwzek 19 May 2016 19: 42
          +5
          Quote: avdkrd
          Maybe the fifth column is not in the Friedman Bank, but in completely different offices?

          You are right in many ways, but ...
          Over the past ten years, banks of the level of Friedman's have received great benefits from the power, huge gratuitous infusions of money so that they kind of lend to the real sectors of the economy. They (these banks) were repeatedly saved from bankruptcy, and they owe the state much larger amounts than a particular UVZ. But no one in the government launches the bankruptcy process for "Alfa Bank"!
        2. HERMES
          HERMES 19 May 2016 20: 08
          +6
          Quote: avdkrd
          Maybe the fifth column is not in the Friedman Bank, but in completely different offices?

          Did I mean only this particular bank? The whole system is the fifth column.
    3. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 19 May 2016 17: 50
      +1
      Alfa-Bank intends to sue Uralvagonzavod Corporation bankrupt
      -Welcome to capitalism ...
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    5. RUSS
      RUSS 19 May 2016 17: 51
      0
      Quote: booth
      Shaw, again? sad
      Do not get enough guys either ...

      And what is courage? Do you know the history of the conflict? Did you see the title of the article and that's it?
      I do not defend Alfa-Bank, but I ask you what is the problem with the bank and the factory?
      1. Yak-15
        Yak-15 19 May 2016 18: 02
        +5
        This conflict has been known for a long time. One is just a parasite making money from the air, and the other is a hard worker who creates wealth. So the parasite, always a little and bleeding his donor, he goes to another victim, and similar parasites. absolutely risk nothing, because under the reliable protection of an even more powerful parasite.
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      3. DMB_95
        DMB_95 19 May 2016 18: 19
        +8
        Without even knowing the history of their conflict, a huge defense plant, where thousands of workers and engineers produce military and civilian equipment, should be more important for a country than a commercial bank that scrolls someone’s money in unknown offshore zones.
      4. sherp2015
        sherp2015 19 May 2016 18: 57
        +3
        Quote: RUSS
        And what is courage? Do you know the history of the conflict? Did you see the title of the article and that's it?
        I do not defend Alfa-Bank, but I ask you what is the problem with the bank and the factory?


        Well, maybe you are so knowledgeable that you tell us syriy what is the problem with the previously strong factory?
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 19 May 2016 21: 36
          -2
          Quote: sherp2015
          Well, maybe you are so knowledgeable that you tell us syriy what is the problem with the previously strong factory?

          I don't know, I wanted to ask you the "experts".
    6. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 19 May 2016 18: 06
      0
      Quote: booth
      Shaw, again?

      Hmmm, not the first time ... Where are the tentacles growing from this action interesting?
      "AO" Alfa-Bank "notifies of its intention to apply to the arbitration court with a statement on the recognition of JSC" Scientific and Production Corporation Uralvagonzavod named after F.E.Dzerzhinsky "insolvent (bankrupt)"

  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 19 May 2016 17: 40
    +1
    Here you are, grandmother, and St. George's Day. But what can the state not support? angry
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 19 May 2016 17: 44
      +21
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Here you are, grandmother, and St. George's Day. But what can the state not support? angry

      The state, or rather its government, supports just such "Alfa" banks.
    2. Yak-3P
      Yak-3P 19 May 2016 18: 13
      -1
      I suggest that I print a buck .. so that from and to but with asad ..
    3. uwzek
      uwzek 19 May 2016 20: 07
      +4
      Quote: Vladimirets
      But what can the state not support?

      The state cannot support!
      In our country there is no independent, self-supporting, production of weapons. Since there is not enough volume of government procurement. Working for war is economically advantageous (weapons are very expensive), but have one extremely big drawback: it is extremely long-term due to the use of serious technologies. Therefore, such production can exist only with constant orders. Otherwise - collapse. As almost all of our defense enterprises have proved.
      UVZ saved the production of wagons, but for almost two years no one has been ordering them. Thousands of workers sit at home (and get paid). They get money from the production of tanks, but normally they should have been able to ensure the profitability of tank production with their quick money from the production of cars.
      Moreover, UVZ has been hung with a bunch of enterprises all over the country that are tied to the war, but unable to exist on their own. Thanks to this, the emergence of "armature" became possible, but the reality of their present production became much more complicated.
      And UVZ's debt to "alpha" appeared after the corporation bought the Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant, which owed the bank. And in no other way - ChTZ produces tank engines (also unprofitable, self-sufficiency previously provided for the production of tractors for NH).
      I'm tired of writing. I went to watch hockey.
  3. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 19 May 2016 17: 41
    +12
    The factory producing tanks is going to be bankrupt! Isn't it fat for Friedman? winked
    1. HERMES
      HERMES 19 May 2016 17: 55
      +2
      Quote: Bob0859
      The factory producing tanks is going to be bankrupt! Isn't it fat for Friedman? winked

      This plant developed the "Armata", the plant that created the T-54, T-72, T-90 ... a few of our armored troops, which the whole world was afraid of ... and they want to flush it down the toilet. And most importantly, who wants to do it .. . what a lousy bank. Here's to you and capitalism.
      1. otter.1
        otter.1 19 May 2016 18: 01
        +3
        Well, is it really incomprehensible? That's why they want to, ask Friedman who and where they press on him ....
      2. Chisayna
        Chisayna 19 May 2016 18: 06
        +1
        Hermes, are you a citizen of Azerbaijan or Russia? What are some of your com and you and yours.
        1. HERMES
          HERMES 19 May 2016 19: 43
          -1
          Quote: Chisain
          Hermes, are you a citizen of Azerbaijan or Russia? What are some of your com and you and yours.


          If I answer you, will this change the essence of my comments?
          "ours and yours" ... it depends from whose point of view you look. My point of view is in the middle.
    2. Sergerius
      Sergerius 19 May 2016 17: 57
      -1
      he is on the "Armata" wassat wants to ride, that's looking for an excuse
  4. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 19 May 2016 17: 41
    +5
    And why hasn't Alfa Bank Alfa yet preened it?
  5. mark_rod
    mark_rod 19 May 2016 17: 42
    +6
    If 100% of the shares belong to the state, is that the state itself brings the company into bankruptcy? Brrr ... belay
    1. asadov
      asadov 19 May 2016 17: 44
      +3
      some nonsense ... All that is muddy in this kingdom ...
  6. vglazunov
    vglazunov 19 May 2016 17: 43
    +5
    Privatization 2 is in full swing, vote ...
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    2. Getoetet
      Getoetet 19 May 2016 17: 50
      -1
      A clear thought is a true thing.
  7. Sergerius
    Sergerius 19 May 2016 17: 43
    -3
    Alpha male trying to get in trouble with the Russian Defense Ministry? recourse I wonder what compromise suits them crying
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 20 May 2016 00: 45
      0
      Quote: Sergerius
      Alpha male trying to get in trouble with the Russian Defense Ministry? recourse I wonder what compromise suits them crying

      The shooting of Alfa Bank from UVZ tanks.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 20 May 2016 01: 21
        +2
        Quote: Amurets
        The shooting of Alfa Bank from UVZ tanks.
        I am afraid to guess from what they will shoot at Alfa-Bank, if the bank decides to bankrupt the Votkinsk plant or to pocket the property of the twice Order of Lenin from the Moscow Institute of Thermal Engineering. belay
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 20 May 2016 01: 28
          0
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          I'm afraid to guess from what they will shoot at Alfa-Bank, if the bank decides to bankrupt the Votkinsk plant or to pocket the property twice of the Order of Lenin of the Moscow Institute of Thermal Engineering

          Funny laughing

          In this particular case, they can only run into Alpha .. by tram:

          - UVZ nobody touches
          - a claim to the "daughter" of UVZ - JSC Uraltransmash .. she makes trams
          - Alpha intends to "negotiate" out of court

          Details on the link:

          http://www.novostibankrotstva.ru/2016/04/01/alfa-bank-podal-zayavlenie-o-bankrot
          stve-dochki-uralvagonzavoda / # ixzz498TIv5bu
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 20 May 2016 02: 13
            +1
            To be honest, I won't even read your link ..... I'm just "stoerosovy" in all these legal and economic subtleties. It's just boring to know all this. But there is a firm conviction (a sense of the experience of life in Russia) that " tanks to bankers are not toys! " and will be released. Russian business must have a border of reason! And if many here show distrust and maximalism in assessing our modern economic policy, then I can understand this too. After all, there are so many living examples before the eyes of the ditching of Soviet industrial giants. I myself pass every day past the ruins of a strong defense enterprise. And given that the destroyers and beneficiaries of this live sweetly and still rub against the authorities, the sight of the bombed-out workshops does not add optimism.
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 20 May 2016 02: 17
              0
              Quote: Thunderbolt
              there is a firm conviction (intuition based on the experience of life in Russia) that "tanks are not a toy for bankers!" and will be produced

              - You are all right
              - said well: UVZ nobody touches. And what is written in the title of the article is just a lie

              Quote: Thunderbolt
              To be honest, I won’t even read your link

              - and in vain .. there are 20 lines somewhere, everything is simple and clear, however -
              - master - master hi
  8. sanych
    sanych 19 May 2016 17: 44
    0
    100% of the corporation is state owned. ”
    And who owns AlfaBank? Who are these shareholders, who are so brave that they decided to wrestle with such a state corporation? fool
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 19 May 2016 17: 48
      +5
      From Wiki:
      The parent company is ABH Financial Ltd., registered in offshore in Cyprus.
      More than 75% of the bank’s shares is owned by Alfa Group: in fact, this package is indirectly owned or controlled by Mikhail Fridman (36.47%), German Khan (23.27%) and Alexei Kuzmichev (18.12%); the remaining shares are held by individuals, including bank president Petr Aven (13.76%), Alex Knaster (4.3%) and Andrei Kosogov (4.08%).
      The chairman of the bank is Andrey Sokolov.
      1. AlexSam
        AlexSam 19 May 2016 18: 11
        +1
        Are there too many First Person friends in the list of friends? or do they up there have a special form of friendship?
      2. sir_obs
        sir_obs 19 May 2016 18: 13
        +1
        Well, not so many square meters need to accommodate citizens, if that. It would be a desire.
  9. iouris
    iouris 19 May 2016 17: 44
    +3
    It is surprising that the plant still produces tanks: agents of the IMF and the Fed ran into it.
    1. quote
      quote 19 May 2016 18: 23
      -4
      Quote: iouris
      It is surprising that the plant still produces tanks: agents of the IMF and the Fed ran into it.

      I wonder what the reaction will be if the plant "runs over." "Tanks" are not weak. (Just kidding)
      I don’t know the legal nuances (RF), but only I (the plant) can declare bankruptcy (in theory). All claims (financial, legal, etc.) are submitted to the courts (claims). Forms are being searched solutions to the problem, compromises, etc. Because while I am "alive", "to bury alive" is a crime !!! Otherwise "chaos" (racketeering)!
      1. iouris
        iouris 19 May 2016 20: 47
        +1
        Who and when built the UVZ and how did Friedman become what he is?
        1. sherp2015
          sherp2015 20 May 2016 08: 29
          0
          Quote: iouris
          Who and when built the UVZ and how did Friedman become what he is?

          The Soviet (Russian) people built like everyone in the country, and the Zionists seize all the property
  10. Dr. Stein
    Dr. Stein 19 May 2016 17: 46
    +1
    Alfa-Bank has a license to carry out banking activities as it pockets.
  11. Getoetet
    Getoetet 19 May 2016 17: 49
    +3
    OOOO !!! - First, the Kurganmashzavod with their BMPs, and now they got to UVZ! - let the company finance the state! There, it seems that Almaty is doing it! -T-72modernize! -How can these 2 plants be declared bankrupt? can stop the manufacture of products-stop the factory in which these products are made ... Oh, good darlings, not from that duck will come from this side
  12. Taygerus
    Taygerus 19 May 2016 17: 50
    +4
    fucking bankers, the defense industry is nightmare and silence, but where are the national interests, after all, these are the country's security issues, tea tanks are not riveted at every factory stop
  13. -СтрР° РЅРЅРёРє-
    +2
    How are commercial structures allowed to the defense industry? am
  14. Andrey NM
    Andrey NM 19 May 2016 17: 50
    +3
    At the crossroads, a shabby but tinted Volga drives into the car of the "brothers". "Brothers", without hesitation, grabbed the bats and began to bludgeon the "Volga". Glass crumbles, and there sits a stunned general of the Ministry of Internal Affairs ... A dumb scene. And suddenly the "brothers": "Oh, comrade general, and we are knocking, knocking ... Who should we give the money to?"
    I just think that the situation may turn like that ... It's hard to blow against the state, violations in the bank can be found, and the license "run out" ... Although there are many options, it all depends on who pursues what goals.
  15. horoh
    horoh 19 May 2016 17: 51
    0
    I wonder where the "first" looks, or have UVZ already a private shop ????
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 19 May 2016 18: 51
      0
      Quote: horoh
      I wonder where the "first" looks, or have UVZ already a private shop ????

      - UVZ has a directorate .. and this, in general, is its problem - who should be borrowed and how to give
      - it's another matter that UVZ is not "Hooves with Horns", nevertheless .. and here the management may have problems from the other side - starting from the Investigative Committee, for example belay
      - The "first" to "look" at this (censorship) is not obliged .. for this, I repeat, there is a directorate, and a relevant ministry, probably ..

      Something like this..
  16. EvgNik
    EvgNik 19 May 2016 17: 52
    +1
    But the prosecutor’s office does not allow our plant to bankrupt. Although the debt is 350 million. For our town - a crazy amount.
  17. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 19 May 2016 17: 53
    0
    Does anyone have information on what is happening? What is going on around UVZ? I, not in the subject, just ...
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 20 May 2016 00: 57
      -1
      Quote: Observer 33
      Does anyone have information on what is happening? What is going on around UVZ? I, not in the subject, just ...

      Very short:

      - Alfa's claim was filed against UVZ's subsidiary (Uraltransmash JSC), which produces trams belay
      - Alpha intends to settle all this in pre-trial order. That is, somehow kindly agree
      - no one actually tries on UVZ itself ..

      http://www.novostibankrotstva.ru/2016/04/01/alfa-bank-podal-zayavlenie-o-bankrot



      stve-dochki-uralvagonzavoda / # ixzz498TIv5bu


      That's all .. and the noise ... laughing
  18. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 19 May 2016 17: 55
    +2
    Alfa-Bank intends to sue Uralvagonzavod Corporation bankrupt

    But I don’t understand what the fuss is about? The plant owes to the bank and does not repay the debt, in order to speed up the process, the bank submits an application for declaring the debtor bankrupt. As soon as the debtor repays the debt, the bankruptcy proceedings are terminated. This is the time. And two is that in this way it is possible to recover only 500 thousand rubles (in total I can be mistaken), because The Bankruptcy Law expressly prohibits the bankruptcy of legal entities that work in the field of defense. So this article is just an exhaust from a famous place.
  19. FID
    FID 19 May 2016 17: 57
    +3
    And why not bankrupt Alfa-Bank itself ??? Is he not noticed in offshore ??? Khodorkovsky in the zone must be changed by someone ....
  20. Svetoch
    Svetoch 19 May 2016 18: 01
    +1
    I propose going to court to declare Alfa Bank bankrupt. hi
  21. Aliv
    Aliv 19 May 2016 18: 08
    +2
    One word. Hebrews.
  22. yanus
    yanus 19 May 2016 18: 13
    +3
    Comments just touch me, everyone lives in a fairy tale. When Alfa-Bank gave a loan, it was just wonderful, and as soon as asked to return everything as prescribed in the contract, then immediately the traitor to the Motherland.
    One may wonder, what was the money spent on? How effective? And what did you expect when you took a loan? This is the first.
    Secondly, on this occasion I am a client of Alfa-Bank. I have a certain amount on my deposit there. According to your logic, "everything is for the defense industry" I should come to Alfa-Bank and hear there, "Sorry, your money was borrowed by UVZ, but it does not return it. But be patient, this is the defense industry!"
    1. sherp2015
      sherp2015 19 May 2016 19: 08
      0
      Quote: yanus
      I'm just a client of Alfa-Bank on this occasion. I have a certain amount on my deposit there. According to your logic, "everything for the defense industry" I should come to Alfa-Bank and hear there, "I'm sorry, your money was borrowed by UVZ, but it does not return it. But be patient, this is the defense industry!"


      Nehru put money in an enemy bank! Aven - Head
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 20 May 2016 01: 17
        0
        Quote: sherp2015
        enemy bank
        Oh, interesting, but the friendly banks in our country still remain?!?!
  23. Polar Bear
    Polar Bear 19 May 2016 18: 32
    +3
    "AO" Alfa-Bank "notifies of its intention to apply to the arbitration court with a statement on the recognition of JSC" Scientific and Production Corporation Uralvagonzavod named after F.E.Dzerzhinsky "insolvent (bankrupt)"

    "It's nothing personal. It's just business."
  24. rew1969
    rew1969 19 May 2016 18: 34
    0
    They took money, and they must be given.
  25. Darwin
    Darwin 19 May 2016 18: 41
    0
    N Starikov nationalization of the ruble
  26. Sergey333
    Sergey333 19 May 2016 18: 46
    +2
    I already got this alpha bank, but the management doesn’t even need to do anything, it’s enough for the representative of the powers that be to say on TV that they will take away the license and close it, because investors in a fire order close their contributions to it.
  27. Cat man null
    Cat man null 19 May 2016 18: 46
    -2
    No, why did you get something like this? Does memory completely disappear?

    Stories of this year already, at least (laziness to look for traces .. the Internet is clogged with messages from 08.05.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX). But for sure - with a year (approximately) that already had a similar run over. It ended, as expected, with nothing ..

    There was already one banker who finished with a scarf. If Friedman is just the same .. um .. stubborn - and he will end the same, by the end ..

    And all request
  28. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 19 May 2016 18: 48
    +1
    To understand the essence of the issue, information is needed, but not enough:
    The owners and management of Alfa-Bank -
    The parent company is ABH Financial Ltd., registered in offshore in Cyprus [21].
    More than 75% of the bank’s shares is owned by Alfa Group: in fact, this package is indirectly owned or controlled by Mikhail Fridman (36.47%), German Khan (23.27%) and Alexei Kuzmichev (18.12%); the remaining shares are held by individuals, including bank president Petr Aven (13.76%), Alex Knaster (4.3%) and Andrei Kosogov (4.08%).
    The chairman of the bank is Andrey Sokolov.

    This is one side of the issue, the other is the reason for debt collection. But there is practically zero information.
    And another Question - why does the Enterprise VPK work with a commercial bank ???
  29. Verdun
    Verdun 19 May 2016 18: 48
    +2
    Alfa-Bank intends to file an application to declare bankrupt the corporation "Uralvagonzavod"
    Since all the unshared ended, the divided begin to share in a new way. And then the question is, whose divide is cooler ...
  30. black
    black 19 May 2016 18: 52
    0
    What are you, all overexcited. A company can be declared bankrupt with a debt of three rubles. And budget money starts moving from the end of June. And if the director is crazy, then Alfa-Bank will sue UVZ before donkey Easter.
  31. ioann1
    ioann1 19 May 2016 18: 56
    +3
    Power restores the country's industry with one hand, and destroys it with the other. Putting strategic enterprises in the hands of private companies, the country's leadership does not seem to understand what implications are coming. Here you have a tolerant result.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 19 May 2016 19: 07
      +4
      The whole question is whose leadership this is, ours or Uncle Sema.
  32. GOLUBENKO
    GOLUBENKO 19 May 2016 18: 58
    0
    The time has come to conduct a comprehensive audit of the bank and its management of all structures. From the FSB to the fire inspection and SES.
    1. minus
      minus 19 May 2016 19: 09
      +3
      And who will conduct the verification? Who across the friends of the supreme trample ???
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 19 May 2016 19: 18
        0
        Quote: Minus
        Who across the friends of the supreme trample ???

        - data on the "friendship" of the leadership of the Alfa group with the Supreme - in the studio !!

        Trepach, mum ..
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 19 May 2016 19: 11
      0
      A small proposal, it’s time to check the very top. But, at the same time, not to allow any swamp inspectors into this matter. These, and checked, must be sent to the barge and to the West.
  33. WERSTA.
    WERSTA. 19 May 2016 19: 00
    +1
    In the 90s, the enterprises of the military industrial complex were destroyed through loans in the same way. And UVZ management will receive a lesson. From now on, do not deal with commercial banks, without the participation of state capital.
  34. NordUral
    NordUral 19 May 2016 19: 06
    +2
    It is time to advance, to socialism, from this cesspool of liberal feudal capitalism.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 19 May 2016 19: 14
      -3
      Quote: NordUral
      It is time to advance, to socialism, from this cesspool of liberal feudal capitalism.

      - Will you show the road yourself, or tell me who to turn to?

      (there will be no answer .. NordUral works like this - it yaps, once, and then hides in the bushes .. I have never seen him answer something meaningful ..)
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 19 May 2016 20: 12
        +1
        You grudge cat from the zoo. The road has already been beaten, and the guys in the pictures also pave it shockingly.
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 19 May 2016 21: 42
          0
          Quote: NordUral
          The vindictive cat from the zoo

          - no .. I'm kind, white and fluffy

          Quote: NordUral
          The road is already beaten, and the guys in the pictures also pave it shockingly

          - what road? what kind of guys? what kind of pictures?

          I do not understand sad
  35. minus
    minus 19 May 2016 19: 10
    +4
    According to the newspaper "Top Secret", in 1992 "Aven <...>, being the Minister of Foreign Economic Relations of Russia, by his order transferred the functions of the representative of the Ministry of Foreign Economic Relations in St. Petersburg to Vladimir Putin" [16].
  36. mr.fafes
    mr.fafes 19 May 2016 19: 10
    +3
    Form of ownership of ALFA-BANK JSC - Joint private and foreign property!
    Overseas nits and their six anti-Russian liberals are sleeping and see how to spoil Russia!
    Drive ALFA-BANK and all its shareholders from Russia!
    The owners of ALFA BANK are not given peace by the Armat tank!
  37. Katukov
    Katukov 19 May 2016 19: 34
    +1
    Wrazhina !!!!!!
  38. 31rus2
    31rus2 19 May 2016 20: 13
    0
    Dear, everything is under control, this is what they show you, that is, the Uralvagon Plant corporation will be sold or, as it is now fashionable to write in search of an investor, and he will certainly immediately solve problems with financing, with debts, only as it fits I don't know about state security
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 19 May 2016 21: 44
      -1
      Quote: 31rus2
      the corporation "Uralvagon zavod" will be sold or, as it is now fashionable to write in search of an investor, and he will certainly be

      - Lying is bad No.

      Quote: 31rus2
      I don’t know how it fits with state security

      - You, hike, not only "do not know" ..

      fool
  39. PKTRL
    PKTRL 19 May 2016 20: 23
    +2
    Quote: YAK-15
    This conflict has been known for a long time. One is just a parasite making money from the air, and the other is a hard worker who creates wealth. So the parasite, always a little and bleeding his donor, he goes to another victim, and similar parasites. absolutely risk nothing, because under the reliable protection of an even more powerful parasite.


    Truth
  40. proud
    proud 19 May 2016 21: 30
    +1
    Kurganmashzavod bankrupt yesterday, today UVZ, tomorrow they will move to Irkut, and there Zvezdochka is just around the corner, you will look at the Northern River and the Baltic Plant by the end of the year will go bankrupt- And what will we protect in case of war? Banks will not buy us freedom and independence! As long as there is a powerful military-industrial complex there is a nation, we’ll ruin it, we’ll all go to the sewers! I hope good luck to you at UVZ common sense will prevail! I hope they will not quit Kurganians either
  41. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 19 May 2016 21: 31
    +3
    I understand the commentators who are negatively opposed to Alfa Bank.
    A long time ago there was an article stating that the bank was trying to crush this enterprise.
    And the commentators' concern is understandable.
    Everyone knows that our Armed Forces have shown themselves on the unexpected side for their sworn partners, which they really did not like. And their further reaction will primarily be measures to weaken the defense industry enterprises. They will act secretly, under a plausible pretext of transferring to a foreign jurisdiction.
    The sanctions did not give the effect that they were designed to go on the other side. Perhaps this is the case.
    And more about privatization. While the people believed in the power of the state, certain forces are trying to tear the remaining pieces of the economy from the state. A woman worked in the Federal Property Management Agency, who believed that privatization should be carried out beautifully and expensively. But the privatization plan was not implemented; now there are no conditions to sell for expensive, but I did not want to cheapen. She was fired, it seems that they will be steered by those who want to completely rid the country of state property, which they made unprofitable.
    The people, of course, understand that in a brothel it is not necessary to change furniture, but personnel, in this case, managers who have failed to ensure the effectiveness of the headed state-owned enterprise. But who cares about people's opinions?
    And the third. It's a shame that the enterprises producing the necessary products are gutted, and the banks that engage in fraud, managing other people's money, also receive financial support from the state.
    And my opinion is that you need to stifle commercial banks, not enterprises, especially the defense industry. But according to the current situation, our defense industry is in danger — our Armats are very unnecessary for those who pursue a policy of containing the Russian Federation. And, if they allowed the creation of structures, then measures will be taken to destroy production.
    A war is going on with us, and nobody really wants to fight, the main thing is to continue weakening the country.
  42. holibat
    holibat 19 May 2016 21: 59
    +1
    If the debt of the enterprise to the supplier creditor is more than 100 thousand rubles, the creditor has the right to declare the debt bankrupt in an arbitration court. Read the laws.
    1. sherp2015
      sherp2015 20 May 2016 08: 36
      0
      Quote: holibat
      If the debt of the enterprise to the supplier creditor is more than 100 thousand rubles, the creditor has the right to declare the debt bankrupt in an arbitration court. Read the laws.


      Laws are written too. not always decent people
  43. holibat
    holibat 19 May 2016 22: 07
    0
    P.S. Probably the color of the fences on credit from Alfa Bank forgot to insert into the estimate
  44. Demeter
    Demeter 20 May 2016 00: 05
    +1
    Outright theft of state property, sabotage and disruption of the state defense order ... When they begin to hang the "honest" thieves "Chubais" on lamp posts, how much can you endure these parasites on the body of the state and the people of Russia ?!
    1. Alf
      Alf 20 May 2016 22: 18
      0
      Quote: Demeter
      When the "honest" thieves, "Chubais", will begin to be hanged on lamp posts, how long can these parasites be tolerated on the body of the state and the people of Russia ?!

      When the political system will change in Russia.
  45. mamont5
    mamont5 20 May 2016 06: 28
    0
    Isn't it time to declare Alfa-Bank bankrupt ?!
  46. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 20 May 2016 08: 47
    +1
    "Alphavtsy" are not the only ones, "thrown"? I know about a dozen campaigns to whom Tagil residents owe - and amounts from 500 million to several billion! But read carefully the "Law on Insolvency (Bankruptcy)" - is it a rather troublesome and unpromising matter to sue the state? However, if a precedent is created, then dozens, if not hundreds, of enterprises will appear in the Register of Creditors of UVZ, incl. foreign ?!
  47. alfa19638
    alfa19638 20 May 2016 09: 15
    0
    the coup of 1991 led to a complete distortion of socialist concepts and values. Everyone who is in power, and not only in power, is preoccupied with money, but money is just a means of subsistence. Good is human relations; everything that is done is in defense and enhancing the well-being of those in power and their environment for living in a society of consumption and pleasures and where the care for a simple person is not an entrepreneur or businessman, but simply a person of materialized labor for the benefit of all people and not units
  48. user3970
    user3970 20 May 2016 09: 23
    0
    I will support olimpiada 15, but on the other hand. Not fig not religious, but reading the Torah and the Bible (Deuteronomy. Book of the Prophet Isaiah) confirm that the "inventors" of loan, interest-bearing bank capital are the Jews with the consent and blessing of their god Yahweh. Levites, chief church officials, the highest caste among the Jews. Returning to our time ... The Rothschilds, representatives of the highest caste of Jewish Levites, having taken capital and gold from the Old and New Worlds, made a bet on industrial China and raw-materials Russia as new passionaries in the future world order. If we consider that the Rothschild clan manages capital valued at $ 300 trillion, then Russia, as a state, in economic and financial terms, loses outright. All the names of Avena, Vekselbergs, Rottenbergs and others are mishlings - servants of the Rothschild capital. I must say that GDP met with the President of Singapore, who outright defeated corruption, the result is? President met with the leaders of HAVALA - a financial settlement system that does not use loan interest, the result is? When Chubais, with the permission of the Yobna family, hired GDP for work as president, the main condition was the non-interference of the future president in the country's economy and finances. Our president is a man of his word.
  49. Oleg L.
    Oleg L. 20 May 2016 10: 19
    0
    Business in Russian - to collect debts and not give anyone