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USA - Ukraine: gingerbread ran out, there was one whip

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USA - Ukraine: gingerbread ran out, there was one whip



A month has passed since the last visit of Poroshenko to the United States, and nothing from the announced American support to Kiev has ever been received - neither a billion dollars of credit guarantees, nor the next tranche from the IMF. It seems that the Ukrainian-American two-year “honeymoon” has passed, and instead of the aroma of gingerbread, the whistle of whistles comes to America more clearly from Kiev. The White House is annoyed with the fact that the financial support of today's Ukraine does not give anything but the expansion of the scale of corruption. The more you give, the more they steal. In Washington, they are not satisfied with the excessively straightforward disruption of the Ukrainian side of the Minsk process without any attempts to depict their readiness to fulfill their part of the agreements. This makes it difficult for the United States to maintain a broad regime of sanctions against Russia.

Noteworthy is the 5 May article in the influential The Washington Post article under the characteristic headline “How Western aid exacerbates Ukraine’s dependence on bribes” (“How does it help?” It says that the West, they say, has repeatedly tried to put an end to the practice in which the overwhelming part of the financial resources coming to Ukraine was plundered there. In particular, for this reason, credit and loan lines provided by international financial organizations and individual states and companies were regularly suspended. Then, however, due to "political expediency" they were still unfrozen. Bottom line: for every dollar entering the country, it now accounts for $ 6,25, illegally exported from it. Only Privatbank of I. Kolomoisky in 2015 from an IMF loan of 4,51 received by Ukraine appropriated billion dollars and hid 1,8 billion dollars in offshores The Washington Post concludes that, apparently, this is an institutional problem: Ukraine’s reform demands alone are not enough; it’s necessary to completely replace the ruling elite in the country. The only question is whom to replace. Not a word about this in the article.

An insulting surprise was presented to Kiev by the main “passionary” of the Maidan Revolution - US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, who distributed the gingerbread right on the Maidan. Official information about her visit to the Ukrainian wards at the end of April is rather stingy. However, much flows from the Kiev information sieve. Thus, the press service of the “Self-help” party cites the people's deputy, Victoria Voitsitskaya, that Nuland demanded that Ukraine amend the constitution as soon as possible, providing for “special status” for certain regions of Donetsk and Lugansk regions (ORDLO), held there elections and provided amnesty to participants in hostilities. Her thesis was that the “Minsk agreements” should be implemented before the end of 2016, there is no alternative to them. Although “Minsk” is bad, but Ukraine, as a state, agreed to it, ”Victoria Nuitskaya Voitsitskaya quotes as quoted by Nuland. With reference to their own "reliable sources" in the Ukrainian leadership, information about such an "ultimatum" on the part of a high-ranking State Department official is confirmed by the informed Mikhail Pogrebinsky.

In general, the position of the State Department, outlined by Nuland at meetings with Ukrainian representatives, including President Poroshenko, looks like this:

- Kiev is obliged to comply with the Minsk agreements, since there is no alternative for them and the Ukrainian state has undertaken to observe them;

- elections to ORDLO must take place no later than summer, and the full implementation of the Minsk agreements by the end of this year. The provision of the promised financial assistance will directly depend on Kiev’s readiness to follow the conditions of Minsk;

- European sanctions against Russia are likely to be extended in July, but the likelihood of their lifting in December is quite high;

- in case of reaching an agreement on holding local elections, heavy weapons and armored vehicles will be removed, and they will be located in designated areas under the supervision of the OSCE mission;

- The size of the OSCE mission and authority will be expanded; discusses the possibility of forming a special police contingent under the auspices of the OSCE, which should act as a guarantor of security on the territory of the Ordlo during the election campaign;

- the withdrawal of heavy weapons and equipment from the territory of the Ordlo can only be carried out after the local elections, according to a previously agreed plan;

- the process of restoring Ukrainian border control can begin only after holding local elections and subject to strict compliance with the Minsk agreements;

- Kyiv is obliged to comply with the full range of measures stipulated by the Minsk agreements, including the adoption of a law on a large-scale amnesty and the introduction of amendments to the Ukrainian constitution stipulated in Minsk;

- all parties should strictly observe the obligations stipulated by the Minsk agreements, but Ukraine should be the first to demonstrate its readiness to show goodwill.

“Principality” Nuland in relation to “Minsk” in Kiev is explained by the fact that she has a chance to occupy a high post in the US foreign policy department if she wins the presidential election of Hillary Clinton. However, the chance is realized only if Nuland succeeds in solving the problem of settling the conflict in the Donbas supervised by her. By all means, she needs to present at least some, albeit intermediate, but positive result.

And how to achieve the result needed by Victoria Nuland and her chiefs, if Kiev defiantly sabotages the Minsk process and pulls time, believing that it works for Ukraine? It could not go on like this for a long time, which Victoria Nuland also demonstrated to Kiev with her “Easter greetings”. Nothing personal, just business.

Another surprise from America and also through the women's line was the upcoming replacement of US Ambassador Jeffrey Payette to the personnel diplomat Marie (“Masha”) Jovanovic (an American of Serbian-Russian origin). Considering the role that Payette played in Ukrainian politics, who called “not only any minister, but also the president, on the carpet,” the appointment of a new US ambassador is comparable to the election of the head of the Ukrainian state. The White House is clearly distancing itself from those people whom he himself recently brought to power.

Unlike Payette, M. Jovanovic is not personally connected with the current ruling group. She is also known to be one of the leading American specialists in the post-Soviet states (she was the deputy head of the US diplomatic mission in Ukraine, ambassador to Kyrgyzstan and Armenia), and especially on state corruption. She already had to unravel the complex knots of financial abuse, which attracts American assistance. It is possible that the appointment of M. Jovanovic just foreshadows what the Washington Post called for - the change of the Ukrainian ruling elite. However, until now, with the personnel in Ukraine, the White House did not work, so there is no reason to believe that this time it will turn out better.

Ukrainian political scientist, full of pessimism, states the following words: “The Obama administration has given up, they have run out of tools to influence the situation in Ukraine. Only cardinal decisions remained, including those that would bring down our country. But until the new president of the United States takes the oath, the strategy will not change much, and we will continue to slide into the geopolitical pit. ”
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  1. HERMES
    HERMES 19 May 2016 20: 48
    +16
    one whip left

    ... grated with fat ...
    "Gingerbread and Cookies" from the USA have always been stuffed with delayed poison.
    And they always taste this "charm" being friends of America ... and die as its enemies.
    1. Alex_Rarog
      Alex_Rarog 19 May 2016 20: 50
      +7
      The drain is protected :-) we begin the countdown after how much they crawl to us)))) I think for 2-3 years the edge :-)
      1. HERMES
        HERMES 19 May 2016 20: 57
        +6
        Quote: Alex_Rarog
        start the countdown after how much they crawl to us


        And they will write letters in the Czech manner ...
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      2. cniza
        cniza 19 May 2016 20: 57
        +10
        The United States does not yet know what to do with this headache, but it will continue to stir up.
      3. Wiruz
        Wiruz 19 May 2016 21: 01
        +12
        The drain is protected :-) we begin the countdown after how much they crawl to us)))) I think for 2-3 years the edge :-)

        I don’t think so. I, personally, am confident in the imminent collapse of Ukraine. It is possible that the disintegration will take place according to the "same" maps of 2014, ie from Kharkov to Transnistria - Novorossiya, the rest - here you have to think about the name (I like Hochland). laughing
        1. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 19 May 2016 21: 09
          +28
          offtopic good
          Maria Zakharova danced Kalinka at the Russia-ASEAN summit
          Moscow. May 19. INTERFAX.RU - Official representative of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs Maria Zakharova at the gala dinner dedicated to the opening of the Russia-ASEAN summit, performed the Russian folk dance Kalinka.
          Earlier Thursday, at a briefing, Zakharova warned reporters that she would perform her favorite dance tonight.
          During the dance, the song was performed by the Adagio quartet of the Grigory Ponomarenko Krasnodar Philharmonic. Zakharova danced the entire dance, which consists of three chants and three verses.
          The ASEAN-Russia Summit is being held in Sochi on May 19 and 20. Leaders of ten countries of Southeast Asia take part in it.
          1. maxxdesign
            maxxdesign 20 May 2016 05: 58
            +1
            Well done Zakharova! Russian women can still not!)) This is Tanu’s answer to their sanctions)
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 19 May 2016 22: 12
          +6
          Quote: Wiruz
          It is possible that the disintegration will take place according to the "same" maps of 2014, ie from Kharkov to Transnistria - Novorossiya, the rest - think about the name here

          Mattresses in a Hollywood product have already "lit" the map ...
          1. 34 region
            34 region 20 May 2016 04: 13
            -2
            Nyrobsky! 22.12/XNUMX. If so, the following comes out. Ukraine is divided according to the loans invested. Let's say Russia leaves the territory on the map. We are investing in the restoration of this territory. In the West, there is a howl about the annexation of this part of Ukraine by Russia. In the West of Ukraine and in the West they talk about warlike Russia threatening the whole world. Against this background, a crusade is being organized against us. All evidence of the seizure of territories by Russia is evident! Cunningly!
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 20 May 2016 10: 27
              +5
              I do not know what guided the creation of the film in Hollywood, but it seemed to be concocted before the Maidan. It is also interesting that the section of Ukraine on the map approximately corresponds to the gravity of the regions towards Russia and Europe.
              In 2006, mattresses concocted a computer game about the war with Assad's army - in 2011 the game became a reality.
              It turns out that initially there is a preparation of public consciousness for what is "coming" according to the plan of reformatting the world, so that its implementation would not be shocking for the layman.
              The fact that the Americans started talking about the need to federalize Ukraine, which in the foreseeable future may become a confederation with great independence of the regions, fits into the presented "cinematic" version of the division of Ukraine.
          2. Volzhanin
            Volzhanin 20 May 2016 08: 28
            +1
            And they don’t need der-ma on a shovel?
            Only in exchange for Alaska! No options!
      4. avt
        avt 19 May 2016 21: 04
        +17
        Quote: Alex_Rarog
        Drain protected:

        No. Do not flatter yourself about the controllability of Svidomo US, or rather about the fact that they sincerely demand something from the Piglet. They are in general the fate of the Ruins on the phalos, yes - they will blow into our ears about the Minsk, but as in fact 08.08.08. in Georgia they will look on the sidelines at the massacre on Ukraine. "Freeze" of the war, they will keep at best until the elections of the USA prezik, and that's not a fact. They will fight with Russia to the last ... Ragul Svidomo , the agents, valuable for themselves, well-trodden since 1944, are evacuated to Canada, Australia, well, to where the Bandera rabble has already sprouted roots from the same 1944.
        1. 34 region
          34 region 20 May 2016 04: 19
          +2
          Auth! 21.04/XNUMX. Why keep the war freeze until the election? Does Amer’s policy change much after the election? How many are already fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq, and the elections have no effect on this. The meaning of keeping the agents in your home? What for? Let them fight! How many ISIS leaders have already been killed, but fewer have died. But stably fighting and steadily impoverished region.
      5. Prisoner
        Prisoner 20 May 2016 00: 05
        +8
        They will not crawl. They will come with an offended muzzle and will be asked to eat, but they were starving. As they stumble they will start to yell that we are to blame for their troubles. Already passed.
    2. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 19 May 2016 21: 12
      +2
      Quote: HERMES
      one whip left
      ... grated with fat ...

      Whip grated with bacon .. recourse Maybe a handle from a whip? It turns out this one, as his ... dildo strapon or what? Do you think the Americans will humiliate the Khokhlo-junta anally, attaching them to "universal human values"? bully laughing
      1. 34 region
        34 region 20 May 2016 04: 23
        +1
        21.12/XNUMX. The bloodthirsty dictator was removed in Iraq and democracy came. And there are many demonstrations of universal values ​​in Iraq today? What did the Iraqis join in?
    3. vovanpain
      vovanpain 19 May 2016 21: 37
      +8
      The Obama administration gave up - they have run out of tools to influence the situation in Ukraine. There are only cardinal decisions, including those that will bring down our country. But until the new US president takes the oath, the strategy will not change much, and we will continue to slide into the geopolitical hole. ”

      Well, the fact that Ukraine is known to every dog ​​in the world in the pit and in the ass, and everyone does not give a damn about Khokhlov horses, the owners of Kakelov are just waiting for the election, Petruha pulls the bagpipes, LDNR openly send Kiev and the mattresses with the elections, so this bagpipe will be long , today on this subject just an article by Rostislav Ishchenko was, everything is clearly laid out on the shelves there.
    4. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 19 May 2016 22: 57
      +7
      The United States does not need Ukrainians to eat gingerbread, but in every possible way spoiled Russia. So Ukrainians have to spoil on an empty stomach, hard, but have to.
  2. svp67
    svp67 19 May 2016 20: 50
    +5
    It seems that the Ukrainian-American two-year “honeymoon” has passed, and instead of the scent of gingerbread, the whistle of the whistle from America is more and more clearly heard.
    Until the elections in the United States are held, this burden will continue. "Gingerbread" or "stick", in relation to Ukraine will be decided by the new US President
    1. Alexei
      Alexei 19 May 2016 21: 39
      +9
      Quote: svp67
      "Gingerbread" or "stick", in relation to Ukraine will be decided by the new US President

      There, once the president wanted to solve something on his own - so they shot the insolent smile
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 19 May 2016 21: 40
      +1
      That is, it is rather a good mine in a bad game.
      As long as there is no new president in the USA, they need peace in the Donbass, everything will depend on the new administration. They will negotiate with the Russians - there will be peace, they will not agree ............
  3. Wiruz
    Wiruz 19 May 2016 20: 50
    +2
    But back in 2008 there were rumors that Barack Obama was an agent of the FSB (according to the idea - the SVR, but not the point) laughing
    1. just exp
      just exp 19 May 2016 22: 16
      +4
      What’s the rumor? and there is a personal matter even in the network.
  4. Simon
    Simon 19 May 2016 20: 51
    +6
    They sold for American buns, destroyed the country, destroyed the economy, fell into poverty, and now they are reaping the benefits. As the saying goes - what goes around comes around! request fool
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 19 May 2016 20: 56
      +5
      And now let’s guess together, and who is to blame! laughing
      1. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 19 May 2016 21: 03
        +8
        Quote: Wiruz
        And now let’s guess together, and who is to blame! laughing


        The question is unanswered, as in youth it is straightforward: Comrade cadets, whose overcoat is signed by Sidorov? wassat
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 19 May 2016 21: 54
          +3
          Quote: Major Yurik
          The question is unanswered, as in youth it is straightforward: Comrade cadets, whose overcoat is signed by Sidorov?
          “I don’t understand. Are you talking about Putin again?”
          1. Major Yurik
            Major Yurik 19 May 2016 22: 43
            +6
            No, about Sidorov! laughing
      2. Lankaster
        Lankaster 20 May 2016 09: 08
        +1
        Quote: Wiruz
        And now let’s guess together, and who is to blame! laughing

        Obama-ch.m.o., of course! yes
  5. Abbra
    Abbra 19 May 2016 20: 57
    +11
    Stop flattering yourself! It’s just that the USA came up with another feint. Later - designate. And, as always, it will be another villainy.
    1. Yak-15
      Yak-15 19 May 2016 21: 36
      +5
      You're right. To swell so much money in unfinished and to let it all drift, this is not in their rules. They are obliged to receive dividends from them, but how it will look and how Russia will come around is a big question. Let's hope that Russia will be more cunning.
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  6. Hope1960
    Hope1960 19 May 2016 21: 03
    +11
    When America understands that everything (money, agreements ...) is drowning in Urkain, as if in a swamp irrevocably, then they will hang this non-state on us again: "Help, Mother Russia! Take it!"
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 20 May 2016 18: 46
      0
      that in Urkaine everything (money, agreements ...) is sinking, like in a swamp irrevocably, then they will hang this non-state on us again: "Help, Mother Russia! Take it!"
      Well, this is not entirely true, as far as I know, they have already squeezed out tasty pieces. But there are no doubts about hohlopiteks. There is no need to forget about loans that will try to hang on us through this misunderstanding.
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 19 May 2016 21: 10
    +2
    Matrasia - and all its elite - act like not distant children, tearing off the wings of a beetle in order to see if it can fly after that or not. Build a plan, and fulfill it, no matter what!
  8. Yak-15
    Yak-15 19 May 2016 21: 21
    +2
    Rest in Peace, Pig-Nesting.
  9. qwert111
    qwert111 19 May 2016 21: 22
    +2
    Nothing happens for free, cheese in a mousetrap is also free for a mouse. And Ukraine is like in a fairy tale: "And for Tanya and for Mania, there are gingerbreads, mint gingerbread, fragrant, surprisingly pleasant ... because Barmaley loves little children!"
  10. yurikh
    yurikh 19 May 2016 21: 35
    +2
    One pleases in Europe slowly waking up. And louder sound voices are heard. It’s time to bring the unbridled Nazis to their senses.
  11. Yugra
    Yugra 19 May 2016 21: 42
    +6
    Khokhlostan somehow somehow dies and falls apart like rotten potatoes ... Well, hi with them ...
  12. BOB044
    BOB044 19 May 2016 21: 45
    +2
    As the political scientist from Kiev Kovtun says. Nuland is not that, Samantha Power is the boss for Kiev. We will scream them with a non-fallow and the USA will not understand the devil. That some are sick that others. In a word, Muda .... and. hi
  13. KRIG55
    KRIG55 19 May 2016 21: 46
    +1
    But were there gingerbread cookies?
    1. Yak-15
      Yak-15 19 May 2016 21: 56
      +1
      Cookies were for sure))))
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  14. Bramb
    Bramb 19 May 2016 21: 54
    +6
    Naive Americans.))
    Anyone who knows Ukrainians initially knew that they only lie and all the money is simply stolen. Ukrainians are no longer capable of anything. A nation of parasites.
  15. mr.fafes
    mr.fafes 19 May 2016 22: 07
    +4
    Bad dog, oh bad,
    barked wrongly and not on command,
    rode badly and squealed
    poorly fulfilled the wishes of the owner,
    the owner is in a nervous fit, it’s not for you Crimea, not for you Sevastopol, not for you NATO naval base,
    Again, the Russian bear ruined all plans.
    So why do you give a mongrel of tattered gingerbread cookies, you only have to whip, so don’t cry and have fun.
  16. atamankko
    atamankko 19 May 2016 23: 24
    +2
    You can’t feed Ukrainians, they only understand the whip.
    1. mr.fafes
      mr.fafes 21 May 2016 15: 28
      0
      Oh yeah, they’ve got brutalized from fat!
  17. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 20 May 2016 03: 37
    +1
    This is the same khokhly, not all the money is returned to the "homeland in the regional committee" they leave themselves for pocket expenses !!!
  18. Zomanus
    Zomanus 20 May 2016 04: 58
    +3
    Ukraine is a tool of constant danger near our border.
    Be it Svidomity or nuclear power plants with crooked assemblies.
    And the Americans simply will not let such a tool out of their hands.
    Now they have extinguished Svidomo before the election of a new president.
    But already the new president can inflate this fire again.
  19. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 20 May 2016 05: 43
    +2
    The White House is annoyed that the financial support of present-day Ukraine gives nothing but the expansion of the scale of corruption. The more you give, the more they will steal.And where were your vaunted analysts, psychologists and anti-corruption specialists when they gave tranches. It was enough to look at the faces of the Kiev junta to understand that everyone was stealing ...
  20. ver_
    ver_ 20 May 2016 06: 34
    0
    Quote: HERMES
    Quote: Alex_Rarog
    start the countdown after how much they crawl to us


    And they will write letters in the Czech manner ...

    .. + ..
  21. Berber
    Berber 20 May 2016 08: 39
    +1
    No gloating, just a statement of fact. But the fact is that we will be raking.
  22. Chulman
    Chulman 20 May 2016 09: 42
    +1
    Quote: Bramb
    Naive Americans.))
    Anyone who knows Ukrainians initially knew that they only lie and all the money is simply stolen. Ukrainians are no longer capable of anything. A nation of parasites.

    So I thought a couple of years ago: -Is it possible that the amerikosov did not have a really real specialist who would explain in detail to them that really, as their "great" leader and leader of the district nobility said --- Ukraine is not Russia! There nay ..., that is, deceived and do not blink an eye !!! Why give them money, it's just going nowhere, in the sense of an abyss, and it doesn't depend on the amount! The printing press in America will break down faster and the FRS will disappear into oblivion than the outskirts will become Europe !!! And now they demand something from them ?! Yes, I beg you, it would be better if anyone on the street in Russia was asked! What do you want with this old man Brzezinski? So Zadornov is right about you, you are stupid, and in reality (to put it mildly) you don't know anything about Russia, about those who live here !!!
  23. 96423lom
    96423lom 20 May 2016 10: 27
    +1
    Ukraine for the Americans today is a political and financial failure. Therefore, on the eve of the election, they began to fuss, you need to clean the face somehow. But in a strategic plan for weakening Russia, these apologists for meanness have achieved an undoubted result. No matter how we laughed at the forums about this misunderstanding, Ukraine has greatly strained Russia. Moreover, this will continue, or the current clowns will spoil wherever they can, or those who come to replace them will ask for help and we will help, maybe with all our strength. And when the order is put in place, there will be attempts of new Maidan, maybe unsuccessful, and maybe vice versa.
  24. wow
    wow 20 May 2016 10: 32
    0
    As Vika Nulandova said: "... Ku, guys ..."!