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In the US, top military officials constantly claim that the actions of Vladimir Putin cause them concern and even alarm. However, the “alarming” statements of the Pentagon people meet with persistent opposition: the number of dissenters in the United States is accusing the military of exaggerating the “threats” and the obvious desire to bite off the budget pie more than can be swallowed.



On this subject, Mark Perry (Mark Perry) in the journal "Politico".

As the publicist recalls, on April 5, at a hearing in the Senate Subcommittee on Armed Forces, a number of military commanders issued a warning about the future of US forces. Simply put, the military demanded more money for defense. Like, if the military budget does not increase, then in the coming war, the United States "will lag behind both in range and in firepower." It was also about the war with the Russians.

As these military ranks reported, the “Putin army” has already surpassed the American army in the combat potential of weapons systems. If we bear in mind also the reduction in the number of American ground forces, in the future the army "will be too small" and will no longer be able to "ensure national security."

A similar assessment was given by four ground forces officers. Among them is Lieutenant-General G. R. Mac-Master (the author calls him an “intellectual”: “... Lt. Gen. HR McMaster, his service's leading intellectual”).

Not only these officers express the view that reductions in the military budget may reduce the combat readiness of the army.

However, they have opponents. One senior Pentagon officer reported with irony that other "guys" were trying to convince the public that the Russians were "three meters tall." The same officer said that the army simply "needs a goal" and "needs a good budget piece." Therefore, other speakers paint a crazy picture: Russians land in the American rear and right there on both flanks.

The above-mentioned MacMaster, “intellectual,” previously rated the “Russian threat.” Experts conducted extensive research on his orders, which was aimed at drawing lessons from military operations in Ukraine. Experts warned: “Russian-backed” “rebel” army uses “surprisingly effective Tanks"And" UAV swarms ", and Kiev forces suffer one defeat after another.

There was a lot of noise, but there were also critics of this “sensation.” Some influential representatives of the military community (retirees), including the officers of the ground forces, were outraged and even scoffed at these “swarms” and “effective tanks”. And they said: they say, where are these news were before?

The author believes that today there is an army "civil strife" associated with the reaction of military circles to a reduction in the defense budget. The ground forces are now trying to modernize the combat arsenal, and to increase the number of personnel. Why all of a sudden? It turns out that the cause of everything ... Russia.

To such nonsense, other military men, whose number is growing, say that the proposed plans should be considered conservative and stagnant. The initiators of these strange plans, apparently, did not learn the lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan. In addition, these people inflate "threats" from abroad. And their goal is simple: grab a piece of fatter from the defense budget.

After all, American forces are already much stronger than Russian ones. The United States today spends seven times more on defense than the Russian Federation ($ 598 billion versus $ 84 billion). Twice as many active personnel are serving in the United States (1,4 million people compared to 766 thousand people). The picture on helicopters: the United States has almost 6 times more (6000 against 1200 in Russia). For fighters: America has three times as many (2300 against 751), and in total aviation Americans ahead of Russians - four times the advantage!

Finally, there are only one Russian ten aircraft carriers.

True, Moscow has almost twice as many tanks as Washington (15000 versus 8800), but in fact, their “Armata” in 2015 “broke right at the parade on Victory Day”. But the American tank M1A1 "never lost in battle."

Mark Perry answered questions from retired Air Force Lt. Gen. David Deputla. Now this person is headed by the Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Research. According to him, stop waving the “bloody red shirt” already. It is necessary to set tasks for the protection of national security, and not to "defend narrow army interests."

Curious is the remark of one senior commander of the Air Force: "Ground forces love to pretend that they are alone in the American wars."

Supporters of the “Russian military threat” have a well-known “instigator” in the person of Air Force General Philip Breedlove. Earlier, this general commanded NATO forces in Europe; he was replaced by General Curtis Scaparotti, distinguished by greater restraint. Nevertheless, Bridllav’s belligerent speeches are of great concern to the European allies of the United States. In early March, 2016 Mr. Bridlove told reporters that the Russians had “raised the stakes” in Ukraine: they say, Putin concentrated there “over a thousand combat vehicles, troops, modern air defense units and artillery divisions”.

One senior civilian adviser from the Pentagon (name not mentioned) noted with humor that the statements of Breedlove have a significant drawback: they (“damn it”) do not correspond to reality.

Supporters of the theses on the "Russian threat" are already doing something. Mac-Master insists that the strengthening of the Russian military forces requires the US to send additional troops to Europe and increase the corresponding expenses in the ground forces budget. And at the end of March, the Pentagon 2016 announced that it was ready to send an additional brigade group to Europe. All this is associated with a certain "aggression" of the Russians.

But here are the opponents. Again, these are retirees. Retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis hardly believes that these measures will intimidate the Russians. According to him, Putin will not be afraid of the brigade group. Yes, and no one will be scared, says the lieutenant colonel. Moreover, such actions would only play into the hands of Putin: after all, this hostile act would give him a reason to increase military spending and bring him closer to the people.

Critics say that Mac-Master is moving away from the real problem with the methods of warfare. There is an opinion that land forces demand “more soldiers” all the time, but “you need to fight not by number, but by skill”. If the troops simply “get bigger”, this does not mean that they are “doing better”.

And the point of view of MacMaster is no longer integral. Even the chief of staff of the ground forces, Mark Milli (by no means a friend of Russia), doubts the correctness of this “intellectual”. He believes that the notorious "backlog" of the United States "in range and firepower" is some kind of "nonsense."

According to one interlocutor from the Pentagon, with whom Mark Perry spoke, many of the military in the ground forces feel "uncomfortable" because of the statements of the MacMaster. Millie mentioned in a recent performance at the Army Military College even hinted that the problem of the army is not the number of soldiers, but that they are not where they are needed.

The debate on the US military "lag" from Russia, of course, will not end. All sorts of statements about the weakness of the American army - this is a natural "political fodder", which politicians throw up to the public during the election season. As a result, terrorists and Russian soldiers see voters "at every corner".

It should be added that the Republican and the Democrats effectively use the Russian theme in the election season. Every potential candidate is almost ready to "wipe his nose" to Putin or, at least, to "talk" with Putin. The topic of the fictional “aggressors” is extremely popular before the elections: Trump already undertook to “talk” with Kim Jong-un, saidthat "problems" would not have arisen here.

Therefore, it should not be surprising that a “aggravation” has also occurred in the military. The campaign - it's time to download budget rights.

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  1. +2
    19 May 2016 06: 11
    Harvest coffins better! And then the Russian soldier Yellowstone is not even an hour ..., or what lieutenant will press the wrong button.
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    2. +1
      19 May 2016 14: 40
      American warriors do not psychologically live in constant tension. There were cases from this and were thrown from the windows of skyscrapers laughing
      1. 0
        19 May 2016 15: 46
        siberalt

        What are you talking about? What strain?

        Smiled.

        A soldier in the USA has income, he has a job. It annoys those who have no work.

        All this talk about an external threat has more of a different purpose than cutting the budget. Cutting the budget does not bother anyone; this is the norm. Well, there is top-level talk about an unfair cut. Sometimes he leaks into the press, which no one reads, except watered by observers, who create the necessary noise in the midst of watered observers, who do not give a damn about everyone.

        Talking about an external threat has a different purpose, including the development of patriotism and including the possibility of the development of fascism as a form of survival of capitalism.

        I remind you that in addition to positive meaning, patriotism is the protection of the state, country, and homeland and reduces the cost of suppressing social explosions.

        And about fascism, if anyone did not know. So fascism is a merger of the state of large private capital and people under the ideology of an external threat or national superiority. Well, there are still many ways you can think of how to combine a pike swan and a crab swan, or rather the state, capital and people.
  2. +8
    19 May 2016 06: 15
    Fear has big eyes, Alexander III back in the 19th century said "they are afraid of our vastness", apparently this fear has not yet passed
  3. +15
    19 May 2016 06: 25
    All the immeasurable power of the United States and NATO is shattered to pieces about their own concept of unacceptable losses. If they could, then long ago, without any doubts and reflections, they would attack Russia. But they are well aware that then they will have to simply die on the battlefield and not only on the field. And the size of the losses will surpass the richest and most creative Western concept of losses. The British soldiers, there, have already trampled out of the army in advance and just in case. And this is at that fateful moment when, one might say, the enemy is already on the verge. So I do not believe in the determination of the NATO armies, but I believe in the cognitive dissonance of NATO’s leadership.
    1. 0
      19 May 2016 15: 52
      Holstein

      Something you think too lofty about caring for people in countries where the state is not even able to organize free medical care. At least some budget option.

      He spit on people.

      There, the citizens took away housing from citizens and rotted it because of the inability to pay the loan.

      Do not grind nonsense.
      1. 0
        20 May 2016 01: 38
        The fact is that in order to organize free medical care, taxes must be increased. Like in Canada. Therefore, experts from this one, so eagerly and flee to the southern neighbor, because it is one thing to pay 25%, and another 40. That is when young and healthy, it is better to have small (comparatively) taxes and paid medicine, when the elderly - vice versa. With the demographics in the United States in order, so the first more than the second. Democracy however.
  4. 0
    19 May 2016 06: 26
    "McMaster insists that the strengthening of Russia's military force requires the United States to send additional troops to Europe and increase the corresponding costs in the budget of the ground forces."- super manager from the GRU. drinks
  5. +5
    19 May 2016 06: 35
    << One senior civilian adviser at the Pentagon (name unnamed) commented on this with humor that Breedlove's claims have a significant flaw: they are ("damn it") untrue. >>
    Well, yes! Bridlaw wants to see tourists from the General Shamanov’s travel agency, but tourists don’t arrive and Bridlaw travel agency suffers losses.
  6. +4
    19 May 2016 06: 35
    Yes, all this is the absolute nonsense of the old warriors. This is so everyone knows. It is clear that everyone is shaking because of the cut. I am more confused that the whole world pays for all this. Yankers print and print their green pieces of paper. The world must decide on the collapse of the United States. It will be hard, we will not survive. Otherwise, metastases will only get worse.
    1. 0
      20 May 2016 01: 44
      Interestingly, does the world know about this? What is the habit - to expose Russia as a shooter, but a locksmith? The principle - who do not mind, or banal Trotskyism?
  7. +3
    19 May 2016 06: 47
    "McMaster insists that strengthening Russia's military power requires the United States to send additional troops to Europe and increase the corresponding expenditures in the budget of the ground forces."
    From the point of view of economy, everything is done right, if it is expensive to feed them at home, it is necessary to send them to Europe for feeding, now let the Poles feed, groom and serve, the Poles have beautiful girls, they will like African-Americans.
  8. +2
    19 May 2016 07: 17
    Our business is to listen to them less (this is their problem) and continue to update and strengthen the Russian Armed Forces.
    1. 0
      19 May 2016 08: 16
      Like Reagan said. Arm Russia to Death
    2. 0
      19 May 2016 16: 02
      rotmistr60

      Not the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, but the state structure of the Russian Federation. Sun is the third degree of importance.

      The first degree is the force that compels us to comply with laws and the institution that creates them.

      The second degree is the education system.

      And already 3 is the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
  9. 0
    19 May 2016 07: 39
    Most likely, the same Bredlev will resign in the near future, that he should sit in retirement with a fishing rod, he will be hunted as a senator in the vice-presidents. That tears a point on the British flag to get into politics. am
  10. 0
    19 May 2016 07: 46
    Pictured tanks from Warhammer 40.000 laughing
  11. +3
    19 May 2016 07: 47
    "The American forces are already much stronger than the Russian ones. The United States today spends seven times more funds on defense than the Russian Federation (598 billion dollars against 84 billion.). Twice as many personnel do active military service in the United States (1,4, 766 million versus 6 thousand) .The picture of helicopters: the United States has almost 6000 times more of them (1200 versus 2300 for Russia). For fighters: America has three times more of them (751 versus XNUMX), and to the total number of aviation, the Americans are ahead of the Russians - a fourfold advantage! "
    We have not only an advantage in tanks, but also in conventional and volley artillery. We have more powerful air defense and electronic warfare. Americans know how to fight only with overwhelming superiority in the air. And how can they achieve this?
    1. +1
      19 May 2016 08: 14
      Cruise missiles. The Americans also have more of them.
      1. 0
        19 May 2016 09: 52
        yes .. but flying time ??? we will already have warheads in orbit when these arrive
        1. 0
          19 May 2016 12: 33
          eco you have fought. we are talking about the suppression of air defense and not about the final fantasy.
      2. 0
        19 May 2016 10: 13
        Cruise missiles are shot down by air defense and air force
        1. 0
          19 May 2016 12: 35
          Maybe they get lost, but only they themselves will waste ammunition and halve.
        2. 0
          20 May 2016 01: 49
          States, with little effort, can roll out 5 targets on one air defense missile. Well, the Russian Air Force - they are for a couple of weeks.
    2. +2
      19 May 2016 08: 34
      Quote: oleggun
      Twice as many active personnel are serving in the United States (1,4 million people compared to 766 thousand people)

      I wildly apologize ... and most of these military personnel are US citizens?
      In the U.S. Army, whoever is missing: Mexicans, Canadians, French, and so on ... that is, the army is for the most part hired. And at all times, mercenaries did not enjoy great love due to the fact that they did not have fighting spirit in principle.
      1. +2
        19 May 2016 08: 57
        But there is training, excellent logistics, good weapons and very decent motivation to become US citizens.
        1. +5
          19 May 2016 09: 02
          Quote: Kenneth
          But there is training, excellent logistics, good weapons and very decent motivation to become US citizens.

          Do not tell my shoes, dear. With a serious "kneading", this Mexican will least of all think about the green car.
          1. +1
            19 May 2016 12: 31
            Your shoes will make your stream laugh. And underestimating the enemy is another way of suicide. And with a serious kneading, professionalism multiplied by a sense of self-preservation works.
            1. +1
              19 May 2016 12: 48
              Quote: Kenneth
              Your shoes will make your stream laugh. And underestimating the enemy is another way of suicide. And with a serious kneading, professionalism multiplied by a sense of self-preservation works.

              You tell this to Romanians, Italians and Hungarians, who during World War II completely forgot about any professionalism and all thoughts were about self-preservation.
              And where does the underestimation? What kind of warriors are there from the mattresses? During the Second World War, there was such an operation "Cottage" called ... read at your leisure.
              1. -1
                19 May 2016 13: 02
                As for self-preservation, then you should recall which army was the most lost by the prisoners.
                1. +2
                  19 May 2016 13: 36
                  Quote: Kenneth
                  As for self-preservation, then you should recall which army was the most lost by the prisoners.

                  And you remind who washed the European car in the Second World War? Despite the fact that the technical level was lower, and the Second World War just started at the time of rearmament of our army.
                  1. -1
                    19 May 2016 14: 13
                    We are not talking about who won whom, but about self-preservation. By the way, the Romanians and Italians also won and quite worthy fought on our side. But according to the number of prisoners, there is still a leader by a wide margin from the others.
                    1. 0
                      20 May 2016 00: 42
                      And if we take the number of prisoners on both sides, without separating the Romanians, Hungarians and "other Swedes", as the classic said, from the Germans, then the difference will not be so big, especially if we take into account the disastrously disastrous start of the war for the "leader", the soldiers were not to blame for the gross miscalculations of the command, they were not obliged, left without ammunition, supplies and, and often without command, to throw their bare fists at the tanks and die foolishly, and besides, a significant part of the military personnel called up from Western Ukraine, The Baltics and the Caucasus were, to put it mildly, not very loyal to Russia and the political system, and therefore they readily surrendered.
              2. -1
                20 May 2016 02: 18
                About the mattresses and the warrior. I remember that in the year 1973 there was such a little booklet The War on the Pacific, publishers of Moscow Region. The actions of the Air Force on surface ships were mainly understood. The attack of American torpedo bombers - 15 aircraft, 14 shot down, no one turned off the battle course. As an analogue, the Baltic Fleet attacked an air defense cruiser in February 45. 156 aircraft, the color of naval aviation, 11 heroes of S.Soyuz tried to drown a single ship. Total - 26 aircraft shot down, the ship stranded, continued to fire for another week. The reason for the failure is the end of the war, so the bombing from a height of 4 km. Those. mattresses went to the end, and nematrassniki - preferred from 4 km. With self-preservation, everything is in order, but with professionalism - alas.
                1. 0
                  20 May 2016 03: 30
                  Quote: St_tov.
                  As an analogue, the attack of the Baltic Fleet aviation on an air defense cruiser in February 45. 156 aircraft, the color of naval aviation, 11 heroes of S.Soyuz tried to drown a single ship

                  “Does the ship have a name?” I was on the "Niobe" thought, but that was in July 1944 request
            2. 0
              20 May 2016 00: 28
              Especially the sense of self-preservation of self-preservation will work, and this is where the collapse of the great Roman Empire began, before the army of which not a single nation or state could resist, until mercenaries from among other nations began to be recruited into this army.
      2. 0
        19 May 2016 14: 12
        The mercenary army of the Khazar Khaganate version 2.0. Money - wagons, crew - until complete o-pin-up-sizing, bk - not to be taken away / not carried away, trunks / missiles / wings - to hell. One problem is to die neo-ho.
      3. 0
        20 May 2016 00: 25
        That’s the fact of the matter, that there are more and more mercenaries in the US Army, and this is already a bell. The collapse of another empire, albeit in the distant past, the Roman Empire, began with the fact that in the ranks of its army, instead of free citizens of Rome, more and more mercenaries appeared from among Germanic and other peoples, and even from among former slaves. What this led to is well known.
      4. 0
        20 May 2016 01: 59
        You won’t believe it, but the selection for the state army will be more abrupt than for the Rosguard. Military service - the ability to break out of a depressive town / village. As in the Russian Federation - nothing new. And regarding the fighting spirit - the United States do not have a special illusion, therefore the principle is put at the forefront - shot and forgot - i.e. point towards the enemy and press the trigger. And then American scientists and engineers act indirectly. Is there any doubt in their competence? I would even say that charlatans in the United States, in comparison with the Russian Federation, are much smaller.
        1. 0
          20 May 2016 04: 25
          Quote: St_tov.
          You won’t believe it, but the selection to the US army, abruptly than to the Rosguard will

          - where does this information come from? Or have you forgotten "it seems to me that" to write?

          Quote: St_tov.
          the principle is set - shot and forgot - i.e. move towards the enemy and press the trigger

          - and then the "smart bullet" will find the hole itself, right? wink

          Quote: St_tov.
          And then American scientists and engineers act indirectly. Is there any doubt in their competence? I would even say that charlatans in the United States, in comparison with the Russian Federation, are much less

          - charlatans? In the Russian Federation, in the military-industrial complex? Fear God belay
  12. +7
    19 May 2016 07: 52
    Stupid, greedy, insignificant people ...
    The army that bombes cities will never win in any war, ONLY to destroy as many houses as possible and kill as many civilians as possible. This can be done by traders, scum, terrorists ... but not warriors!
    Indeed, ... the Ndos are an "exceptional" nation.
    And yes, it seems that the time will come and they will be craped by the whole world, with pleasure and love! smile
    1. -2
      19 May 2016 08: 14
      So far, the whole world "loves" us with pleasure and love.
      1. +6
        19 May 2016 09: 16
        Quote: Kenneth
        So far, the whole world "loves" us with pleasure and love.

        Who is the whole world? "Enlightened" Europe with its pederast parades and Matrassia with their tolerance ... I will tell you, dear: Matrassia and Geyropa are not the whole world. And dreams that Russia will bend, it will always be only dreams. And this not just words, but facts of history, in which Europe was bent more than once.
        1. 0
          19 May 2016 12: 29
          The whole world is where we got quite advanced technologies and cheap loans from. And the fact that not the whole world - so it doesn’t make it any easier for us - no one fit in for us.
          1. +2
            19 May 2016 12: 49
            Quote: Kenneth
            The whole world is where we got enough advanced technology from.

            To listen to you, we can only knit bast shoes. Isn’t it a shame that being a Russian himself would write such nonsense?
            1. 0
              19 May 2016 13: 01
              Nonsense - this is leavened patriotism, beating from all the cracks. Russia is a part of the global economy, in many dependent. We, of course, are also able to do a lot and are rightfully proud of it, but by no means everything is far from the highest level. Microelectronics, medical equipment, high-precision machines, oil and gas extraction equipment. And much more, we do far from the best. And by the way, cheap loans are not the last thing for the development of the economy.
              1. +1
                19 May 2016 13: 33
                Quote: Kenneth
                Nonsense - this is leavened patriotism, beating from all the cracks.

                Yes, no, dear. Russia is certainly part of the economic world, but only your belittling of the Russian Federation’s capabilities is more like the whine of Nemtsov and Co. ... and if there are difficulties now, this does not mean at all that they will be tomorrow. At all times, Russia has not been scarce in gold heads and this is a historical fact, more than once confirmed.
                1. -1
                  19 May 2016 13: 37
                  Okay, call a Russian microprocessor, or at least a Russian smartphone.
                  1. 0
                    19 May 2016 13: 52
                    Quote: Kenneth
                    Okay, call a Russian microprocessor, or at least a Russian smartphone

                    - But now you already carry garbage, dear ..
                    1. -1
                      19 May 2016 14: 53
                      Well, why the garbage. I even know roughly what you will call. And then I propose to see where it is produced and compare with well-known foreign samples
                2. 0
                  19 May 2016 13: 40
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  At all times, Russia has not lost its golden heads and this is a historical fact, more than once confirmed

                  Quote: From a joke
                  ... when the Qur'an was written, there were no minefields yet ...

                  - there is such a thing - "brain drain", you heard, probably?
                  - Duc here .. until this "leak" was stopped - "golden heads", having studied in Russia, will be lured to the rotten West. Because it is more interesting to work there (and more comfortable, in the sense of work), and the salary is tastier.

                  Only do not try to shove me into "whiners" too - I will not get through laughing

                  PS: In vain on Kenneth-a attacked, IMHO .. the guy writes the right things in places .. unpleasant, yes, but quite consistent with reality .. request
                  1. 0
                    19 May 2016 14: 10
                    Only this guy is 44 years old, he is a candidate for those. science and unlike his opponents understands what he is talking about :)
                    1. +1
                      19 May 2016 14: 32
                      Quote: Kenneth
                      Only this guy is 44 years old

                      - I’m 10 more, so what?

                      Quote: Kenneth
                      He is the candidate of those. of sciences

                      - those, these .. what's the difference? Here everyone "didn’t slurp cabbage soup" .. in any case, most of those present Yes

                      Quote: Kenneth
                      unlike his opponents understands what he is talking about

                      - I believe that he "knows"
                      - do not underestimate opponents
                      - with the "processor and smartphone" you were slightly carried away, admit it .. after the defeat of the industry (and not only industry) of the 90s - it's insanely difficult to compete in a densely packed market .. and in the case of a "smartphone" it's just .. silly
                      - here under this your thought -

                      Quote: Kenneth
                      Russia is part of the global economy, in many dependent. Of course, we, too, are able to do a lot and are rightfully proud of it, but by no means everything is far from at the highest level. Microelectronics, medical equipment, high-precision machines, oil and gas extraction equipment. And much more, we do far from the best. By the way, cheap loans are not the last thing for economic development.

                      - ready to sign up. Because the thought is right hi
                    2. 0
                      20 May 2016 00: 51
                      And if a candidate of sciences, is this a guarantee that you are speaking the truth of last resort?
                3. -2
                  20 May 2016 02: 47
                  When - more than once confirmed, in those years the Republic of Ingushetia never waved at the enemy ten times its superior. And now? Let every Russian be five times smarter than everyone else. 140 million * 5 = 700 million. And we are swinging for a billion, or even a half. And taking into account the Far Eastern borders - it’s completely half the globe. The navel will not untie? I remember that a quarter of a century ago they already drank, it seemed a little seemed. We will repeat the iteration until the Russian remains, or what?
                  1. 0
                    20 May 2016 03: 45
                    Quote: St_tov.
                    we shy away for a billion, or even a half. And taking into account the Far Eastern borders - it’s completely half the globe. The navel will not untie?

                    - don’t specify - who is there on whom .. swinging?

                    Quote: St_tov.
                    I remember a quarter of a century ago they already drank, it seemed a little

                    - in 1991? What's wrong with that .. "drank"?

                    Dear, express your thoughts more clearly, if possible?
        2. -2
          20 May 2016 02: 30
          They bent down Europe - when they drove food trains to the West, in 1946-7, while more than a million Soviet citizens died of hunger? Well nafig such bending. Or take us Suomi beauty, with a loss of 20: 1?
          1. 0
            20 May 2016 03: 59
            Quote: St_tov.
            They bent down Europe - when they drove food trains to the West, in 1946-7, while more than a million Soviet citizens died of hunger?

            - and at the same time about 1 million tons were rotted by their own stupidity. grain in 1947 ..

            Quote: St_tov.
            Or take us Suomi beauty, with a loss of 20: 1?

            - what you .. negative laughing
      2. 0
        20 May 2016 00: 47
        And with such frenzied anti-Russian propaganda, this is not surprising, and anyway, a considerable part of people, ordinary citizens in the countries of the world do not treat us so badly, but about the ruling elite of these countries, bought or intimidated and specially selected from " the best "at the behest of the overseas regional committee, a separate conversation.
  13. 0
    19 May 2016 08: 11
    This budget cake has already covered itself with maggots, and they are all trying to devour it. Zombies, what can I say.
  14. +1
    19 May 2016 08: 12
    War is too serious a matter to be trusted by the military.
    1. +1
      19 May 2016 14: 37
      (C) need to be put after such quotes.

      And what, do you really understand in war and generals?
    2. 0
      20 May 2016 00: 53
      Yeah, trust her, the war, cooks or lawyers.
  15. +6
    19 May 2016 08: 15
    but their "Armata" in 2015 "broke right at the Victory Day parade." But the American tank M1A1 "never lost in battle."

    Laughing for a long time ... laughing

    It remains to find out in what reality the mattress generals live. fellow
    1. 0
      19 May 2016 08: 43
      ... at the expense of the tank Abram looked, and the idea of ​​the tank Sarah - a video in the studio ...
    2. +1
      19 May 2016 13: 48
      It is said the same - “never did not lose in battle". And what’s in the video is non-combat losses fellow

      The video is instructive, of course .. although, if you speak "at all", you can kill any tank .. request
      1. 0
        20 May 2016 01: 11
        And you know for sure that you never lost in battle, the information on the course of hostilities in Iraq speaks a little differently, the tank is not fighting on its own, the tank is only, figuratively speaking, the tip, spears, but its shaft is reconnaissance, communications, timely information about the enemy, timely maneuver by forces and means of other types of military equipment and their interaction, etc., all that allows you to point the tip at the right time and right place, and this was just not the case with the Iraqis, this is the true reason for the superiority of the American tanks over Iraqi. The same thing happened in 41, when our tanks, including the newest t-34s and kv were ineffective against the German, a significant part of which were inferior to the Soviet in their combat qualities.
  16. 0
    19 May 2016 09: 10
    A constant feeling of anxiety ... this is a diagnosis in practice ..))
  17. 0
    19 May 2016 09: 15
    Realizing that Russia did not give up and could not be robbed, Amerekosy took up their favorite game, cutting the budget. But they will not fight, the radioactive desert from the radioactive desert, the dough just will not get.
  18. 0
    19 May 2016 09: 20
    As a result, terrorists and Russian soldiers seem to be “on every corner” to voters.

    It would be better to wait until they, shouting: "The Russians are coming," will begin to be thrown out of
    windows.
  19. 0
    19 May 2016 09: 57
    For some reason, these generals are annoying me! Maybe they should not be allowed to speak out, because they are poorly educated, even in their craft. Why only talk about the payroll? And who canceled the partisan war? Why did they decide that just the training of their soldiers corresponds to the training of the enemy? And if one opponent costs a dozen Merikos? And why they conceal superiority in the Kyrgyz Republic, ships, nuclear submarines, etc. Indeed, the cut is natural. It is good that the Russian leadership understands this and answers asymmetrically. According to threat analysis, no more.
  20. Cat
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    19 May 2016 11: 05
    Who would doubt it!
    If the Minister of the US Army is, to put it mildly, a pederast, then I don’t even want to imagine what he is doing with NS recourse
  21. Cat
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    19 May 2016 11: 08
    I like topwar - it corrects g * e * y for a bugger. This is +10!
  22. 0
    19 May 2016 11: 11
    absolutely correct thought - the generals need money in the military budget and they will "attract investments" as they can. do not listen to their speeches, you need to "watch your hands", the sharper is betrayed by actions and eyes. and if they are preparing for war, we also need to sharpen pitchforks and sapper blades - they will come here to conquer us, and we will meet our dear guests, not for the first time. who came to Russia with what, so we will meet!
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      19 May 2016 13: 12
      The thought is true and it concerns our generals as well.
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        20 May 2016 01: 14
        Our generals are far from the American ones, they "eat" an order of magnitude more, therefore, no matter how much our generals ask, it will still be not enough, well, not enough for now.
  23. 0
    19 May 2016 16: 19
    The "Russian threat" has always been an important element of the US military throughout the Cold War. If you read the history of the Cold War, then in the United States the military has always talked about increasing the budget to protect against the Russians.
    Now, under the pretext of a "Russian threat", the warriors will raise the prices of weapons, it is profitable.
  24. 0
    20 May 2016 06: 15
    The picture of helicopters: the United States has almost 6 times more (6000 against 1200 in Russia).

    Mark Perry gave "wonderful arithmetic". Let's check, 6000 divided by 1200, we get five! Fivefold superiority has become sixfold.
    It turns out, and the author himself is not without sin in exaggeration.