Prefabricated Japanese Pride

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The fighter of the fifth generation appeared from insult to the USA

At the end of April, the Japanese X-2 fighter, created using Stealth technologies, first flew into the air. Private by the standards of the modern military aviation the event was nevertheless a milestone in the development of aircraft construction and the country's air force. Japan has joined the elite club of fifth-generation fighter countries.

Japanese X-2 in fact, according to some analysts, "is the answer to the American F-35, the Russian T-50 and the Chinese J-20 and J-31". With the last statement it is possible to argue. Even a superficial glance at the X-2 allows us to conclude that it is closer in design to the classic F-22 Raptor, rather than to the multi-purpose “flying computer” F-35.

X-2 was the product of three phenomena. The first is the insult of the Land of the Rising Sun, the second is its ambitions, and the third is the changing military-political situation in the Far East. The insult was the refusal of the United States to sell F-22 to Japan. However, there was no discrimination in comparison with others: the Raptor is not exported at all. Raising the X-2 into the air, Japan proved that it is capable of creating the fifth-generation fighter itself.

As for ambitions, according to Jeffrey Hornung, a researcher at the Riochi Sasakawa Peace Foundation, “Tokyo is trying to make it clear to the world powers that the Japanese military industry should be taken seriously.” It is also worth noting that, despite the external similarity of the X-2 with the F-22 and T-50, in its weight characteristics it is closer to the F-16 and MiG-29. The nozzle configuration allows us to conclude that the X-2 has the function of a controlled thrust vector, which increases its maneuverability. This feature will allow him to more effectively confront Chinese fighters.

Representatives of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries emphasize that the X-2 is only a prototype with "a glider, engines and other modern systems and equipment that can be used in future fighters." The combat version will receive the designation F-3 and is likely to be adopted no earlier than 2030. But in any case, we can already say that the aviation industry of the Land of the Rising Sun has risen to a new level. Japan is trying to catch up with Russia and the United States. And from a military-political point of view, the fighter clearly looks like a signal to China. According to Hornung, in the confrontation between Tokyo and Beijing around the islands in the South China Sea, the creation of the X-2 fighter should make it clear to the Celestial Empire that Japan does not intend to retreat.

Prefabricated Japanese PrideAccording to the Christian Science Monitor newspaper, in Japan's 2015, Japan’s self-defense forces had 571 to lift their fighters into the air once more to intercept Chinese aircraft that had entered the country’s airspace. Compared to 2014, the number of such incidents increased by 23 percent. Apparently, Japan no longer considers its current destructive forces, consisting of 190 obsolete F-15J, adequate protection against Chinese air invasion.

The main load on the project will fall on three companies. Mitsubishi Heavy Industries will be engaged in the final assembly and quality control. IHI Corporation will be responsible for the production of 17 types of parts and weapons. Mitsubishi Electric Corporation will create radars. The total amount of the contract is 87,7 billion yen (about 914 million dollars).

By the way, the Americans invited these companies to refine their F-35, with which they had many problems - in particular, with navigation equipment and software. Considering the authority and weight of the world aircraft industry of these Japanese corporations, it can be assumed that the Japanese will eventually find something to equip their X-2, and participation in the American project will benefit them.

According to Russian developers, it’s premature to talk about the Japanese fighter of the 5 generation: it is half the battle to design a prototype, for a full-fledged aircraft you need missiles, radar stations, engines, and aviation materials.
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  1. 0
    21 May 2016 07: 20
    The Japanese have created a flying model and will naturally modify and equip it, with electronics, everything is fine with them. After all, the Japanese bombed the Americans in World War II. They just do not have to fly far from their islands.
    1. +3
      21 May 2016 09: 25
      YOU RATE THE PRICE! (sorry for the pun) Every yen is counted there! in terms of cost and effectiveness, they will even have surpassed us, as it is not sad, I’m not talking about mattresses ....
      1. 0
        21 May 2016 10: 34
        But what is the minus? what am I not saying the truth ?! or someone really pricks his eyes ?!
      2. +6
        21 May 2016 12: 24
        Here, the price is probably not really the value of the program, but PR - only the first sample costs hundreds of millions, but not a program where you need to keep dozens of research institutes, create new materials, electronics, and rebuild production.
      3. +3
        21 May 2016 17: 21
        Pure PR. In Russia and the USA, there is a lot of experience in aircraft manufacturing, and the Japanese are far from them. Even the states came to a standstill with their 5th generation, and Russia still does not know how much the systems will run in PAK FA. Tasks of tremendous complexity. And then some kind of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries for three years and for a penny built something with which the great aviation powers have been fighting for more than one year. In my opinion this is just a modernized Mitsubishi fighter of the 70s, advertised as the 5th generation. Let them do better what they do best, that is, cell phones and cars, and do not climb into aviation, and then the whole world will laugh with them.
        1. +6
          21 May 2016 22: 47
          The Japanese know how to jerk when they really want to.
          Once upon a time after sailboats, 20 years
          mastered armadillos with 12-inch guns ...
          and did not miss, by the way.
          1. +1
            23 May 2016 10: 34
            mastered? yes they bought ships and bought officer training in England.
            They mastered the technology much longer.
        2. +2
          22 May 2016 03: 12
          You do not know Japanese well !!! They will not invent something new! They simply take all the achievements of all countries and bring them to mind, as they have already done more than once with a variety of technologies and production
      4. +2
        21 May 2016 18: 20
        Quote: Alex_Rarog
        in terms of cost and effectiveness, they will even have surpassed us, as it is not sad, I’m not talking about mattresses ....

        Just in terms of efficiency, they are lagging behind, because the United States would have sold the F-35 to them so that it would be cheaper to develop a 5th generation aircraft from scratch. But Russia cannot buy a fifth-generation fighter, so all the money went into what was really needed.
    2. 0
      22 May 2016 10: 12
      just don’t have to fly far from your islands
      smile -from what?
    3. 0
      23 May 2016 10: 32
      Japanese dispute with China essentially doomed
      The Chinese will overtake the arms race because it is commonplace for them to invest in costly projects. While the Japanese proudly roll out 1-5 prototypes by 2030, China will already have several aviation regiments with similar machines.
  2. +12
    21 May 2016 07: 29
    It’s premature to talk about the 5th generation Japanese fighter: building a prototype is half the battle; for a full-fledged airplane, missiles, radar, engines, and aviation materials are needed.



    I don’t want to hurt anyone’s religious feelings, but the same can be said about the Russian 5th generation fighter. Until they are mass-produced, the USA is the only country that has such "toys".
    1. +2
      21 May 2016 08: 29
      The T-50 is nevertheless the machine as close as possible to the serial product, except that the manufacturing technology there has not yet been adapted to the series. Surely avionics is ready, with the current engines, and so has the highest power ratio and a climb rate has been set. And the Japanese are just a flying stand and no more, the same Penguin F-35 has many times a higher degree of readiness. I don’t know about the Chinese. If objectively! wassat
    2. 0
      23 May 2016 10: 37
      5th generation fighters - this is the technological base.
      Yes, the Russian Federation does not yet have mass-produced T50s, but there are 4 ++ cars that are quite dangerous even taking into account the fact that there are f-22s and supposedly adopted f-35s (although in fact they are not yet combat-ready and no better the same t50 on readiness)
  3. +1
    21 May 2016 07: 48
    An experimental aircraft which will not go into production in its current form. There are no weapons. There is no glider. ** Stealth ** shifter.
    1. 0
      22 May 2016 16: 39
      For show and done. Like the US and we. Piece production.
  4. +1
    21 May 2016 07: 58
    Japan has joined the elite club of fifth-generation fighter producing countries.

    and which countries produce 5 generations?
    1. +6
      21 May 2016 08: 10
      USA only.
      1. 0
        21 May 2016 08: 14
        Quote: Dimon19661
        USA only.
        Do you seriously consider American sharing the fifth generation? laughing
        1. +4
          21 May 2016 08: 27
          Do you seriously consider Ukraine May 5th generation?
        2. +1
          21 May 2016 12: 36
          F-22 raptor is the completely fifth generation ... although you probably know better
          1. -1
            22 May 2016 16: 41
            F-22 yes. But even the United States abandoned the series. Do not pull.
          2. -1
            23 May 2016 10: 39
            I would be more careful. Absolutely 5th generation - only part of the raptors in the maximum equipment. There are about 50 of them. The rest, in fact, are no better than dryers.
        3. 0
          22 May 2016 16: 38
          They are not profitable to build in series. Do you think the United States is a backward country in aviation?
      2. +3
        21 May 2016 08: 18
        PRODUCED!
        PS: IMHO "Murzilka" magazine is worthy of this article!
  5. +1
    21 May 2016 08: 01
    The first is the offense of the Land of the Rising Sun.


    this is a joke?
    1. 0
      23 May 2016 10: 45
      this is not a joke at all. You need to understand the psychology of the Japanese.
      firstly, it is generally impolite for them to say "no" directly
      second, the psychology of superiority and militarism is being imposed on the nation through the media, and not without success. I must say that they also have cultural achievements that can give rise to the realization of "superiority", much like in Germany in 1933.
      thirdly, they have such a feature - in school, literally everyone joins clubs of interest and realize what they want. They live with the belief that they can achieve what they need.
      All this together results in the rejection of the fact that there are no newest fighters.
      What steps they take - populist, mobilization or practical - this is a matter of detail.
      We can only say that they will not calm down.
  6. 0
    21 May 2016 08: 25
    Something I did not notice a variable traction vector on it. It is too early to talk about this aircraft, since it is nothing more than a reduced flying stand, on which aerodynamics will most likely be worked out.
    1. +2
      21 May 2016 08: 39
      x2 got the same traction vector style as on the X-31

      1. +6
        21 May 2016 08: 55
        Some garbage to be honest!

        I understand that this is much more serious.

      2. raf
        +2
        21 May 2016 23: 56
        The fact that the Japanese should not be called "Controlled thrust vector", in fact, these are gas-dynamic rudders! Usually they are used on rockets for control in a rarefied atmosphere and in space!
        1. 0
          22 May 2016 16: 44
          Well done, not fixated on one development.
  7. 0
    21 May 2016 08: 40
    X-31 Demo
  8. 0
    21 May 2016 11: 35
    Not seriously. This is a "flying concept", not a combat aircraft. Well, the samurai showed that they would be able to assemble a flying plane. Who would have doubted. And now a question about the COMBAT aircraft. Also, I think they can, but they will sweat. That's when at least a squadron will be released ...
    1. +1
      21 May 2016 12: 39
      And why should they sweat-the 3rd world economy? Yes, and considerable experience. You just first take an interest in the Japanese military-industrial complex, and then make such statements. Sadness, sadness, on the forum .....
      1. +4
        21 May 2016 12: 51
        I don’t remember really Japanese post-war fighters. Everyone was a licensee, but his school has long been gone. The "successes" of the Japanese missile program are indicative, and such that they prefer to use the services of launching satellites of other countries.
        Although China is copying, it has made enough changes to form its own, at least inferior, school.



        It’s not even so important that their plane will be more likely a fighter-bomber or a long-range interceptor, but it is also quite close to readiness.
        1. 0
          23 May 2016 11: 12
          the Japanese are obliged to take a lot of fuel with them due to the features of the theater of operations
          it turns out a heavy heavy machine without options.
      2. +3
        21 May 2016 23: 02
        Of course. Make it easy. They just relaxed under
        American military umbrella. And now the US hinted to them,
        that they themselves can’t cope with China, they need a shoulder.
        Samurai wake up. And their technology is the envy of everyone ...
        1. +1
          22 May 2016 02: 40
          And their technology is the envy of everyone ...

          A slightly exaggerated myth. When Fukushima happened, the Japanese had to buy liquidation drones from France, it turned out that in addition to the cute dog robots, there wasn’t any serious equipment. Yapi have a number of advanced technologies, for example, in the field of aviation carbon fiber, they are actually monopolists, but to build a 5th generation fighter is not for Lexus to assemble hard-working painstaking Asian hands. Computerized toilets have created a stereotype of mega-progressive tech Japan, slightly distorting reality. Let's face it - the X-2 shown is poor, but it will be able to support an engineering school in good shape.
          1. 0
            23 May 2016 10: 53
            in vain are you so. Japan is one of the few countries where a robotics industry really exists. As an example of application, see how exactly the stabilizer works on their new tank. The fact that they didn’t have the right robot at hand on time is the costs of their control structure and the jambs associated with this.
            I assure you, after Fukushima, this issue is being resolved in full swing.
        2. 0
          23 May 2016 10: 50
          the Japanese really have some technology, but their position in aviation cannot be called advanced. With much greater respect, I relate to their marine and social experiences. They have wide technologies in transport and robotics. But it’s not that ...
      3. 0
        22 May 2016 01: 30
        And you still have to sweat, even if the 3rd economy, all that they built after the war, only licensed copies, and a modern fighter is not a car, even an advanced one!
        1. -1
          22 May 2016 16: 48
          For the Japanese, this is six months to a year of testing. No more.
          1. 0
            23 May 2016 10: 55
            you do not understand the scale of the problems facing the designers of the aircraft
            and the fact that the Japanese are very limited in resources.
    2. +1
      21 May 2016 15: 52
      This is a "flying concept", not a combat aircraft.
      Any project starts with a concept. The main thing to bring this concept to life was the technological capabilities of industry. Japanese industry undoubtedly has such opportunities.
    3. 0
      22 May 2016 16: 46
      The Japanese have a very strong air wing. Yes, morally obsolete - like everyone else.
  9. +5
    21 May 2016 15: 48
    Quote: kugelblitz
    something I don’t remember really Japanese post-war fighters. Everyone was a licensee, but his school has long been gone.

    Many experts familiar with the technologies available to Japanese industry highly appreciate the chances of the military-industrial complex of Japan to create a good modern fighter. The Japanese have at their disposal the most advanced composite materials today, high-quality electronic components and technologies that make it possible to create engine turbine blades that can withstand very high temperatures, which is considered to be a very important factor for creating an economical engine with high power density. Skeptical is obviously not worth evaluating Japan’s chances of developing a high-quality fifth-generation aircraft of the so-called skepticism.
    1. +8
      21 May 2016 16: 31
      Quote: Verdun
      Many experts familiar with the technologies available to Japanese industry highly appreciate the chances of the military-industrial complex of Japan to create a good modern fighter.

      I also highly appreciate Japanese engineers, but so far it will take more than one year, or even ten years, to fill up the bumps. Maybe he will even fly great then, but somewhere there will be a catch. Swedes, for example, have been tormented for how many years, and there seems to be continuity, but some unstable brittle crocodiles come out! But the French constantly fought, sort of with annoying little things, but volatile, damn it!
      What am I saying? Engineers need experience in combat work, and not just calculate the design for loads and push a powerful engine. In the first battle, everything can come up, and glitches of the electronics with a structural break not designed for unplanned overloads, and repair with a sledgehammer, and refueling with donkey urine instead of standard fuel and lubricants, and overheating of guns, and a lot of everything! As a result, a beautiful design will stand on the ground, and a nondescript cracker will fly and beat the enemy perfectly.
      Of all the foreign fighters, I rate American and French aircraft above all. The remaining parodies of these.
      1. 0
        21 May 2016 17: 30
        Well, American is understandable, but what kind of French cars are these? Mirages are only being modernized; there is nothing essentially new. Eurofighter is a hodgepodge team from all over Europe. In general, mirages are airplanes for third world countries, no one else buys them.
        1. 0
          21 May 2016 17: 43
          Well, American is understandable, but what kind of French cars are these?
          The Dassault Rafale is a pretty decent car. It is clear that there was no case in battle to compare them with the F-16 and F-18, but it seems that, at least, they will not yield. The Swedish JAS 39 NG is also an interesting car. Inexpensive to operate and in terms of capabilities - not a sofa. Of course, this is not the fifth generation. But, by and large, all the advantages of the fifth generation are still theoretical. And everything depends not only on the aircraft, but also on the missiles suspended from them. As for the Japanese, they overcome their "bumps" pretty quickly. Half a century ago, they did not know how to make cars. And the planes ... At least during WWII, the Japanese had very competitive aircraft. Another thing is that they have spawned too many different types - service in a layer has fallen down. Such a mistake, I think, the sons of Amaterasu will no longer make.
          1. 0
            22 May 2016 16: 51
            Here avionics will go into battle. Gliders are both good, but in the avionics of the USA they do Swedes.
        2. 0
          21 May 2016 18: 31
          Rafal car beast! In one of the training fights, the Raptor bent F-22, that's what natural selection means! wassat

          1. 0
            23 May 2016 11: 02
            if F22 or F-35 engage in a maneuvering battle, this means that all of their stealth technology has gone down the drain and most of the interceptors are already at least equal with them.
            This is already a failure. And who will win in the end - rafal or flu, is not so important - there are enough dangerous machines.
            I suspect that the Chinese reincarnation of the Mig-23 J-7 (D?) Could well have done the same.
  10. 0
    21 May 2016 17: 24
    Quote: RuslanD36
    It’s premature to talk about the 5th generation Japanese fighter: building a prototype is half the battle; for a full-fledged airplane, missiles, radar, engines, and aviation materials are needed.



    I don’t want to hurt anyone’s religious feelings, but the same can be said about the Russian 5th generation fighter. Until they are mass-produced, the USA is the only country that has such "toys".

    Something their "toys" are rather raw, prohibitively expensive, and for some reason they also have some problems.
  11. 0
    21 May 2016 20: 05
    Within the Japanese Self-Defense Forces, the Mitsubishi F-1 fighter was sufficient and looked pretty good. But, on the one hand, the resource of the produced machines has ended, and on the other hand, apparently, the stage of the "Self-Defense Forces" is coming to an end for Japan. They have already created quite good tanks, and this despite the fact that Japan did not have a tank design school. There is a suspicion that they will not fail with the plane. For these guys, an eye and an eye are needed so that we do not have to resolve the issue of the northern territories on a new one.
    1. 0
      22 May 2016 16: 54
      Japanese cars (right-hand drive) run at 200K without a major overhaul. He went. Quality control or mysticism - but the Japanese succeed.
    2. 0
      23 May 2016 11: 06
      you are mistaken that the Japanese do not have a tank building school.
      Yes, their tank forces were never leading, but this does not mean that there is no experience
      If you look closely, you will see that they regularly make their prototypes
      Perhaps their tanks are not the best - for example, there are complaints about the power of guns, but they can not be called frankly backward either.
  12. 0
    21 May 2016 20: 36
    According to Russian developers, it’s premature to talk about a 5th generation fighter: building a prototype is half the battle, rockets, radars, engines, and aviation materials are needed for a full-fledged aircraft.

    That's right, they finally said the truth about the T50 ...
    Prefabricated Japanese Pride

    Rather, the article is a semi-finished copyright envy fellow
    1. 0
      22 May 2016 16: 57
      The 5th generation of serial production is very expensive. We have instances both in the states and in us.
      1. 0
        22 May 2016 18: 23
        "We have copies, and in the states" ////

        In the United States, about 400 copies wink
        1. 0
          23 May 2016 11: 03
          of which really can fly no more than 80.
          1. +1
            23 May 2016 23: 27
            Some F-22s have already gone over 1000 hours in the air, and
            many F-35s in 100 hours.

            But 5 experimental T-50 samples from several raids
            hours each - this, of course, is much cooler ...