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MP: Rosgvardiya is, among other things, a reliable reserve for the army

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In the face of the National Guard, Russia will receive a reliable reserve for the army, which is important in a situation where NATO continues to build up its forces on the Russian border, reports RIA News Statement by member of the Duma Security Committee Nikolai Kovalev.


MP: Rosgvardiya is, among other things, a reliable reserve for the army


“In the face of the National Guard, Russia will receive a reliable, well-organized reserve of the Armed Forces, primarily for the purposes of territorial defense, but not only. This is of particular relevance in the context of the continued approach to our borders of the North Atlantic bloc, whose leaders openly declare their intention to contain Russia. We are registering these calls more and more often, ”
said the deputy at the plenary session of the Duma.

According to him, "it is important that the leadership of the new service is proposed to be entrusted directly to the President of the Russian Federation."

"We are confident that the creation of the National Guard was made by the President extremely timely and, of course, will be supported by the majority of the State Duma deputies," Kovalev concluded.

Earlier, Vladimir Putin said that the actions of the United States and NATO, which are deploying new bases with missile defense systems in Eastern Europe, "lead to a swaying of the international security system and the start of a new arms race."
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  1. SS68SS
    SS68SS 17 May 2016 16: 48
    +1
    "We are confident that the creation of the National Guard was made by the President extremely timely and, of course, will be supported by the majority of the State Duma deputies," Kovalev concluded.

    Our president knows what he is doing. Impudent Saxons will never stop trying to weaken Russia, both economically and militarily, because a strong Russia has a very serious effect on all world political processes. And mainly in contrast to the West. AND
    1. poquello
      poquello 17 May 2016 16: 53
      +5
      Quote: SS68SS
      "We are confident that the creation of the National Guard was made by the President extremely timely and, of course, will be supported by the majority of the State Duma deputies," Kovalev concluded.

      the thought is right, while the military enlistment offices will collect whom, and here the finished staff
      1. Samen
        Samen 17 May 2016 16: 58
        +6
        In the person of the National Guard, Russia will receive a reliable, well-organized reserve of the Armed Forces

        Yeah! In turn, the Armed Forces will be a forge of personnel for the National Guard ... A vicious circle, however! request
        1. cniza
          cniza 17 May 2016 17: 02
          +6
          Rational and competent circle.
          1. guzik007
            guzik007 17 May 2016 22: 11
            +8
            rational and correct?
            ----------------------------------
            Are you sure? And the cardinal difference in tactics and, consequently, in the training of infantry, etc. "Guard" does not tell you about anything? They are chased until the seventh sweat with clubs and shields to practice repelling the crowd, while the infantry is trained to do something different.
            Without serious retraining, this is cannon fodder. Remember the loss of riot police in the Chechen company and the attitude of combat officers
            - without a mat they don’t remember.
          2. goblin xnumx
            goblin xnumx 17 May 2016 23: 30
            0
            well, well done, everyone approved, everything is right, but did you miss this point? - or do you disagree? - well, “it seems important that the leadership of the new service is proposed to be laid directly on the president of the Russian Federation.” :) or you don’t trust the president?
      2. Portolan
        Portolan 17 May 2016 17: 18
        -4
        this "national guard" for suppressing internal unrest, and not army forces to protect the motherland, who will command the army there? Jews again? well, they will command ...
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 17 May 2016 17: 30
          +1
          this "national guard" for suppressing internal unrest, and not army forces to protect the motherland, who will command the army there? Jews again? well, they will command ...


          it is better to suppress some unrest as severely as possible, so that later there will be no national grief and tears over the remnants of the country.

          In general, I would especially groan about the Rosguard on the spot authorities in the first place. funnel, investigator and interrogation and you can be free, but taken in pencil. laughing

          1. Portolan
            Portolan 17 May 2016 18: 46
            -1
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            In general, I would especially groan about the Rosguard on the spot authorities in the first place. funnel, investigator and interrogation and you can be free, but taken in pencil.


            Well, I wouldn’t even put a pen like that on a pencil, but immediately to the wall, the world will be cleaner.
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 17 May 2016 19: 35
              +6
              That is, it hurts for the living?
          2. Portolan
            Portolan 17 May 2016 19: 14
            +1
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            some excitement is best suppressed as hard as possible,


            you should clamp the eggs in a vise as cruelly as possible, then you would turn ...
          3. Besterfeind
            Besterfeind 17 May 2016 21: 10
            +1
            What about popular grief and tears during the suppression itself?
            Everything is fine until you started pushing yourself.
            How to warm- Everything is fine until those eyes are knocked out.
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 17 May 2016 21: 49
              +3
              Quote: BesterFeind
              What about popular grief and tears during the suppression itself?

              Ask about it those who now live in Ukraine.
              1. Besterfeind
                Besterfeind 17 May 2016 22: 20
                -2
                I do not understand where Ukraine.
                1. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 17 May 2016 23: 22
                  +2
                  Quote: BesterFeind
                  I do not understand where Ukraine

                  Well, you are worried about "people's grief and tears at the very suppression", and there "onizhedeti" rode on the Maidan. You can read the summary in the news.
                  Quote: BesterFeind
                  All is well until those eyes are knocked out.

                  They start shouting about it whenever they try to arrange another armed coup.
          4. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS 17 May 2016 23: 09
            0
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            it is better to suppress some unrest as severely as possible, so that later there will be no national grief and tears over the remnants of the country.

            If you are talking about this, then where is this national guard?
            1. bubalik
              bubalik 17 May 2016 23: 20
              -1
              ,, PHANTOM-AS ,,, here It should prevent local opera ,,,
              1. PHANTOM-AS
                PHANTOM-AS 17 May 2016 23: 45
                +3
                Quote: bubalik
                This should prevent local opera ,,,

                Against three hundred snouts? and the national gadia will be grandmothers and those who went to the rally for zp Nurses, with batons to disperse?
                1. bubalik
                  bubalik 18 May 2016 00: 22
                  0
                  ,,,, You are distorting the concepts of cause and effect, if the local Organized Crime Control Department and the Federal Migration Service initially worked, and did not "chop", this would not have happened ,,, yes
                  1. PHANTOM-AS
                    PHANTOM-AS 18 May 2016 00: 47
                    0
                    Quote: bubalik
                    ,, You are distorting the concepts, cause and effect, if the local Organized Crime Control Department and the Federal Migration Service initially worked, and did not "chop", this would not have happened ,,,

                    if grandmother, then grandfather .. laughing
                    Colleague, I know both cause and effect.
                    The main reason is the rotten policy of the authorities in all spheres, economic and migration, including, and then the laws "do not gather more than three", "the power to criticize nizzy" begin to appear, but the people then wake up, seeing the deteriorating situation in the country, hence the desire to play ahead of the curve, and elections are just around the corner ... Will you vote for edro?
                    But they will be held in the State Duma, questions like, leave, and then what? Rallies ... So the national gadia will do.
                    1. bubalik
                      bubalik 20 May 2016 00: 01
                      0
                      Do not confuse politics, and the life of ordinary citizens ,,,
        2. Homo
          Homo 17 May 2016 17: 37
          +9
          Quote: Portolan
          this "national guard" is to suppress internal unrest, and not an army force to protect the HOMELAND

          Unrest is also different. Adequate themselves diverge, not leading to bloodshed. And the suppression of the inadequate, sponsored from behind a hillock, the purpose of which is the overthrow of legitimate authority - this is the defense of the Motherland! soldier
          1. Portolan
            Portolan 17 May 2016 18: 48
            +4
            Quote: Homo
            Unrest is also different. Adequate themselves diverge, not leading to bloodshed. And the suppression of inadequate, sponsored from abroad, the purpose of which is the overthrow of legitimate authority - this is the defense of the Motherland


            but inadequate is who? are those who are against raising prices, housing and communal services, against the oligarchs, bloodsuckers, against the withdrawal of Russian wealth abroad, is not adequate?
            1. Dryuya2
              Dryuya2 17 May 2016 20: 48
              +1
              Quote: Portolan
              against withdrawal Russian wealth abroad

              Russians - with two "C" yes tongue
              1. Portolan
                Portolan 17 May 2016 20: 56
                +4
                Quote: Dryuya2
                Russians - with two "S


                RUSSIAN is written with one C, in all Russian chronicles it is written RUSSIAN EARTH, RUS all with one C. Even in the Dahl dictionary 19c, RUSSIAN was written with one C. Two C is the reverse German translation, it is not typical for the Russians to double consonants for no reason.
            2. Besterfeind
              Besterfeind 17 May 2016 21: 12
              -1
              Adequate is maybe someone in helmets. but inadequate are those who are against them.
              The degree of inadequacy will be determined retroactively in secluded cabinets.
          2. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS 17 May 2016 22: 25
            +5
            Quote: Homo
            And the suppression of the inadequate, sponsored from behind a hillock, the purpose of which is the overthrow of legitimate authority - this is the defense of the Motherland!

            Was the shooting of the Supreme Council also a legitimate act of legitimate authority?
        3. nrex
          nrex 17 May 2016 18: 10
          +1
          Goodsch, Maidan wanting? It will not work, just the guard for such.
          1. edeligor
            edeligor 17 May 2016 18: 52
            -4
            Quote: nrex
            Goodsch, Maidan wanting?

            Under YOUR phrase, you can make a 37-year-old like that in 2018, in the elections ... Are you trolling bastard ?!
            1. nrex
              nrex 18 May 2016 13: 46
              +1
              For bastard you can and a tambourine. Believe me, they taught me this. )))
        4. Besterfeind
          Besterfeind 17 May 2016 21: 09
          -1
          You don’t have to blame everything on the Jews, the Russians had enough of their nuggets who were engaged in the extermination of people from the heart.
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        1. gudgeon
          gudgeon 17 May 2016 17: 32
          +1
          Quote: Portolan
          this "national guard" for suppressing internal unrest, and not army forces to protect the motherland, who will command the army there? Jews again? well, they will command ...

          You can google for the sake of interest in the task of the National Guard. And "Capsom" - smaller, smaller. Here, not only for you is the Motherland with a capital letter, for Russian Jews too, by the way.
          1. Chisayna
            Chisayna 17 May 2016 17: 44
            +4
            Here there is a Jew a citizen of Russia, as well as Canada and Izralia. And where is his homeland, in which country? Where is his ass warm?
            1. Besterfeind
              Besterfeind 17 May 2016 21: 15
              -1
              Where he was born, there is his homeland.
              Stop this frenzied anti-Semism.
              When peppy and well-fed guards will crush opponents with tanks, they will not be interested in the nationality of those whose guts are wound on tracks.
          2. Cat man null
            Cat man null 17 May 2016 17: 50
            +1
            Quote: gudgeon
            Googling the National Guard

            - Rosguard, with your permission ..
            - do not share - what kind of "tasks" have you Google?
          3. Portolan
            Portolan 17 May 2016 18: 51
            -1
            Quote: gudgeon
            Here, not only for you the Motherland with a capital letter, for Russian Jews - also, by the way.


            joke, the redder the picture, the worse the koment, the rosafreis are here today, and tomorrow where their homeland is unknown, where there is more money, there is the homeland.
          4. Portolan
            Portolan 17 May 2016 18: 51
            -5
            Quote: gudgeon
            Here, not only for you the Motherland with a capital letter, for Russian Jews - also, by the way.


            joke, the redder the picture, the worse the koment, the rosafreis are here today, and tomorrow where their homeland is unknown, where there is more money, there is the homeland.
            1. Besterfeind
              Besterfeind 17 May 2016 21: 18
              -5
              YYY, every second Russian in the campaign is looking for the source of all the problems in the Jews, while he does not want to see that the Russians and the Jews do not need to live the way they live.
      4. svp67
        svp67 17 May 2016 19: 55
        +2
        Quote: poquello
        the thought is right, while the military enlistment offices will collect whom, and here the finished staff

        Yes, yes ... the only deputy, apparently, does not know that the National Guard will have OVERLOADING tasks in the war, in particular, protecting the rear of the armed forces from saboteurs and much more, judging by the results of WWII - they will definitely not be bored.
      5. clidon
        clidon 17 May 2016 19: 57
        0
        Yeah, but the internal troops (or what were they called there together with night watchmen there?) Then they are not needed at all in wartime ...
    2. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 18 May 2016 00: 20
      +1
      Well it is necessary, how thoughts converge
      I was just thinking about this when I heard about its creation
  2. sever.56
    sever.56 17 May 2016 16: 51
    +13
    The liberoids have already unequivocally identified the National Guard as the Kremlin's oprichniks, which are designed to destroy all, in their understanding, "freedoms" in Russia.
    They already know for sure that:
    - The diet of the National Guard includes a barbecue from the opposition, washed down with fresh blood of a liberal. And yet, every fighter of the National Guard is obliged to rape at least three opposition women a day, aged 18 to 80 years. In case of failure to fulfill the plan for rape, the fighter loses the 13th salary ...
    But seriously, read the tantrums, groans, screams and howls of Yashins, Ponomarevs, Albats and all shenderovichs about the creation of this structure, and it will become clear that everything is being done right.
    WHAT THE RUSSIAN IS GOOD, THEN A LIBEROID IS DEATH (changing the old proverb) ...
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 17 May 2016 16: 56
      +10
      sever.56 SU Today, 16: 51 New hi
      Liberoids have already unequivocally identified Rosguard in the guardsmen of the Kremlin.

      Yes, we do not care about "liberoids." As it is necessary for the country's security, so it must be done. And the national guard of Russia is an elite and not just a reserve. But ready-made highly trained soldiers of Russia.
      1. Mikhalych 70
        Mikhalych 70 17 May 2016 20: 17
        +6
        He served as a conscript in the Internal Troops of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs, then continued his service in the police. He began serving in the OVO, in a power unit (an analogue of the OMON) he finished 25 years later as a senior officer. But, even if you crack, I can't understand how it is possible to unite under the "one roof" SOBR and OVO, OMON, VSN and GLRR ?! These are different structures! Incl. and recruiting. If in SOBR it is still necessary to manage to pass the selection, then in the "watchman" - the announcement of employment in a creeping line hangs above the department. And, if for SOBR and OMON - oprichniks, this is to some extent justified, then for OVO - this is a very smart advance for service and combat training. hi
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 17 May 2016 21: 29
          +5
          I also served in centuries. And why so different in principle? Can objects be protected by Vovans? Or in a cordon like riot policemen did not stand? Or didn’t you teach how to disperse a violent crowd? Somewhere even a synopsis was lying around on the tactics of the internal troops. But didn’t the riot police go to Chechnya? Did not participate in the database? Well, sober and special forces of the centuries, aren’t they training to capture the target and storm the apartments? Why so different, in principle, then? Moreover, the old units are likely to be engaged in the old tasks - submission, partially equipment will simply change and there will be more advanced training. And finally, we have 200 thousand armed members. In the event of any rebellion, this is an ideal source of weapons for gangs, since they have no military training. And now instead of them there will be, for example, 200 thousand trained soldiers, the National Guard. This is a completely different matter. soldier
          1. bubalik
            bubalik 17 May 2016 21: 55
            +2
            ,,, g1v2 ,, off-topic of course ,,,, also served as an explosive (KPO) urgent, after 8 years of LUVD ,,, I agree with your post ,,,
    2. vlad66
      vlad66 17 May 2016 17: 11
      +11
      Quote: sever.56
      But seriously, read tantrums, groans, screams and howls about the creation of this structure, and it will become clear that everything is being done right.

      A colleague and you, I and many other colleagues have already read these groans, including on our website, if you recall the articles about the creation of the National Guard, you have not read a lot of definitions, the Kremlin's "oprichniks" you said softly compared to what happened, then the president did everything right
      Quote: Observer2014
      Yes, we do not care about "liberoids". As needed for the country's security, so it must be done.

      Absolutely agree with you. hi
      1. sever.56
        sever.56 17 May 2016 17: 22
        +10
        Vladislav, welcome hi

        Quote: vlad66
        A colleague and you, I and many other colleagues have already read these groans, including on our website, if you recall the articles about the creation of the National Guard, you have not read a lot of definitions, the Kremlin's "oprichniks" you said softly compared to what it was,

        I not only read, but also got a bunch of spits on my comment, where I said that such a structure is needed, and, accordingly, a bunch of minuses, which I frankly do not care. And when he laid out his arguments and offered to lay out his counterarguments - that’s all, silence ... The main thing for them is to crow, you look someone and will lead to their bespontovy verbiage.
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 17 May 2016 17: 33
          +8
          sever.56, just the characters feel that this is just for them to create a structure

          that's moaning)
        2. vlad66
          vlad66 17 May 2016 17: 37
          +14
          Quote: sever.56
          The main thing for them is to crow, you look someone and will be led by their bespontovy verbiage.

          Valery hi The funniest thing is when they give them a hat, they start screaming, WHERE are the Police? Where is the Rosguard? Why don’t they protect me, when they feel good, they are the guardsmen of the Kremlin, the Rosguard is created to suppress a popular uprising. before Ukraine’s eyes, they rebelled there, got home. So it’s necessary that the rear was strong. Yours faithfully.
          1. sever.56
            sever.56 17 May 2016 18: 00
            +9
            Quote: vlad66
            The funniest thing is when they give them a hat, they start screaming, WHERE DOES THE POLICE? Where is the Russian Guard? Why don't they protect me,

            Vladislav, that’s the whole point ...
            Today I watched with great pleasure the report about how they accepted in Anapa Navalny with his sixes ... It was something !!!
            When some bulk frown struck the chest of an old Cossack in uniform with his elbow, their placement began. It was necessary to see how frightened they were, the bulk of their pants were wet, including the bulk ...
            Picture-charm !!! And they, again, called for help from whom? That's right-Putin’s guardsmen and executioners-the police ...
            Fffse - no comments required! lol
    3. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS 17 May 2016 23: 26
      0
      Quote: sever.56
      Liberoids have clearly identified the National Guard

      And you belong to what camp communists?
  3. Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 17 May 2016 16: 54
    -7
    Why, I’m not surprised that Vovka creates the same structures anew, under his personal control! I think soon we will see extremely accommodating oligarchs.
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 17 May 2016 16: 56
      +3
      Quote: Strezhevchanin
      Why, I’m not surprised that Vovka creates the same structures anew, under his personal control! I think soon we will see extremely accommodating oligarchs.

      It's time, and then snickering.
    2. ALABAY45
      ALABAY45 17 May 2016 17: 06
      +15
      "... Vovka creates ..."
      Is this your relative ?! So that’s yours and our president! In some places I don’t agree with him, but he’s ours! ... About me: Fifty-five years old, height 188, weight 104 kg. (Replenished), girls love, adequate, served, for a long time, well, have a conscience .. .!
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 17 May 2016 17: 22
        +10
        ALABAY45 (6) RU Today, 17:06 ↑
        "... Vovka creates ..."
        Is this your relative ?! So that’s yours and our president! In some places I don’t agree with him, but he’s ours! ... About me: Fifty-five years old, height 188, weight 104 kg. (Replenished), girls love, adequate, served, for a long time, well, have a conscience .. .!

        I agree! Height 194, weight 130, I didn’t gain much during the winter, now I use dumbbells, I drop the barbell. I’m 42 years old, girls generally squeal and cry. And our president! Although I sometimes disagree. But this is my president! My country!
        1. CORNET
          CORNET 17 May 2016 17: 38
          +8
          45 years old, weight 87 height 183, Nordic character, girls I love them too ... bully
          Potential guardsman (if anything, there’s a shooting class ..))) Who is our head of state? hi
          1. Andrey K
            Andrey K 17 May 2016 19: 51
            +12
            Quote: CORNET
            45 years old, weight 87 height 183, Nordic character, girls I love them too ... bully
            Potential guardsman (if anything, there’s a shooting class ..))) Who is our head of state? hi

            44, 85, 182, behind three campaignslaughing
            I’m walking nearby, at the same time I’ll watch over the girls, if you have no time laughing
            1. Observer2014
              Observer2014 17 May 2016 20: 24
              +2
              Andrey K
              hi
              Noticed! soldier
        2. ALABAY45
          ALABAY45 17 May 2016 17: 46
          +5
          So, so! Council of the "experienced": You, still, kid! (Compliment) Sorry ... 42nd ?! Three ryazhenny nets, too much, in "litter": pike, crucian carp, "plywood", quiet fire, soft sleeping bags, light "gas" lantern, relaxed ladies, intoxicated with fifty-year-old biceps and freshly smoked sirloin ... Counterweight ?! not, I think
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 17 May 2016 18: 03
            +2
            ALABAY45
            hi
            Accepted! good Everything is fine! I come from the very center of Russia. Novosibirsk Region: drinks
            1. ALABAY45
              ALABAY45 17 May 2016 18: 41
              +1
              Alas, Colleague, not accepted! Center of Russia-Kurgan !!! Popov radio, First, twice Hero of the USSR pilot, Boris Safonov, Maltsev T.S., academician, by the way, well, if not convinced - Solonik, Alexander Viktorovich ... Mother-in-law, in the 42nd I taught him physics at the school in Kurgan, I call her "mom", and, hell knows, but what if "ballistics" is MOM's favorite subject ?!
              1. Observer2014
                Observer2014 17 May 2016 18: 52
                +1
                You can go crazy! Oh! normal guys in Russia should shoot. I would like to say that I believe each other hiAnd the Chapel! Where is the center of Russia! ??? A !!!! Do not be angry! I will suffocate! laughing hi
                1. ALABAY45
                  ALABAY45 17 May 2016 19: 03
                  0
                  "Normal boys", whom he never was, in view of service in law enforcement agencies, have long been raising children and grandchildren, digging gardens, fishing, butchering wild boars, roe deer, elk, having mistresses, playing yard football, and, even , climb into deputies ... From, do, do not fuck! Well, in principle, "The team of our yard" ... On the one hand, history, on the other hand, hmm!
                  1. Observer2014
                    Observer2014 17 May 2016 20: 46
                    +2
                    never been in mind law enforcement
                    And how does this beg your merits for the Fatherland? I was a teacher in general. What is more difficult in our world? laughing To be a teacher or interior worker? Or did someone think that teachers are small and weak? Disappoint at a time!
                    1. ALABAY45
                      ALABAY45 17 May 2016 23: 32
                      0
                      "... teachers ..."
                      Maybe teachers? Well, since you, such a teacher ?! wink
                      1. Observer2014
                        Observer2014 18 May 2016 00: 07
                        +1
                        Are you law enforcement officials without mistakes? And ideal?laughing Do not tell the citizens of your country laughing Which keep you on their taxes. I won’t continue. And then your workers, law enforcement bodies of the GDDD, for example, gills will dry out! laughingYou yourself "gave me a double-barreled gun" And you yourself "pulled the trigger" Do you recognize the article by Maria Zakharova?
                      2. ALABAY45
                        ALABAY45 18 May 2016 00: 16
                        0
                        Hmmm, judging by the number of commas, you are a "Trudovik" ?! recourse
                      3. Observer2014
                        Observer2014 18 May 2016 00: 22
                        +1
                        And you do not look like a person from law enforcement. laughing Okay hushed up and sleep soldier
                      4. ALABAY45
                        ALABAY45 18 May 2016 00: 40
                        0
                        Nope! I have a wife and an eldest son at the "entrance" ... In 40 minutes the younger one will arrive and we will jerk for a pike, for a spinning rod! It is already dawn here ... Two "Mapps" turntables, two "carbon fiber", by 7 am - 8-10 "fillies" of 2-3 kg each. Bye, "stupid", you bastard ... For dinner - pike marinated, with onions, carrots and grated cheese! By the way, my law enforcement agencies ended in 1991 ... hi
          2. ALABAY45
            ALABAY45 17 May 2016 19: 09
            0
            "... Don't be angry! I will strangle ..."
            Take the risk! Can you survive ... crying
            1. Observer2014
              Observer2014 17 May 2016 19: 15
              +1
              I will survive!
              Everything is fine. Regards Observer 2014 hi
  • nrex
    nrex 17 May 2016 18: 17
    +1
    Thank. Some of the excess of democratic freedoms. Clank the gateway without brains.
  • vglazunov
    vglazunov 17 May 2016 16: 56
    +4
    It’s good that they put Rosguard in counterbalance to NATO, because I had previously mistakenly thought to suppress popular uprisings.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 17 May 2016 17: 06
      +6
      no one will crush the popular uprising.

      But the uprising was not far away, easy. People do not kill and do not oppress in order to rebel. And a rise in price by 20% of food will not be the reason for an adequate person to stagger the power, knowing that the country is under external pressure and is actively rearming, loading the state order with the order of plants and shipyards.

      But if the trash is demolished by the authorities, then the people will rise - for the order will stop, the work and the payment of salaries will stop.

  • x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 17 May 2016 17: 14
    +1
    MP: Rosgvardiya is, among other things, a reliable reserve for the army
    The original thought.
    So, all the same, the Russian Guard with its tanks, aircraft and artillery will not only catch bandits and suppress riots. This is encouraging.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 17 May 2016 17: 18
      +6
      It’s not to catch the bandits in slippers ... at one time in the Argun gorge there were more than 2000 armed with not only machine guns, bandits in one place. And you are so dismissive)
      1. x.andvlad
        x.andvlad 17 May 2016 17: 24
        0
        Yes, times are not calm now. But they will still have more weapons than they need for purely police tasks (my personal opinion).
      2. Igor39
        Igor39 17 May 2016 18: 06
        0
        "You can't catch bandits in sneakers ... at one time there were more than 2000 armed not only with machine guns in the Argun gorge"

        Here are two of them, Kadyrov and Daudov, both Heroes of Russia, so you don’t have to catch everyone, give heroes and everything is normal.
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 17 May 2016 18: 50
          -1
          Quote: Igor39
          no need to catch everyone

          - correctly
          - some are recyclable and reusable

          Something is wrong? wink
          1. Igor39
            Igor39 17 May 2016 19: 02
            +5
            I think with crime then it’s possible to find young reputable murderers or robbers, why give them the terms, the rank of major of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and continue to work on, you see, and to the hero of Russia, they will be able to do so with their exploits.
      3. goblin xnumx
        goblin xnumx 18 May 2016 00: 13
        +1
        and how did the centuries stop them-? - or did the army men still fight them? (landing)
  • Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 17 May 2016 17: 20
    0
    Speaking of oprichnina. Not everything is as sometimes presented to us in books about the era of Ivan the Terrible.
  • Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 17 May 2016 17: 33
    +6
    In the person of the National Guard, Russia will receive a reliable, well-organized reserve of the Armed Forces, primarily for the purposes of territorial defense, but not only.

    Ahem ... but weren't the predecessors of NG - the Internal Troops - such a reserve?
    Or does it mean that the National Guard units will become, according to the organizational structure, backup army units - such as the US NG? And instead of lightly armed "law enforcement troops" we will get a second army with tanks, artillery and aircraft, which, moreover, will inherit from the military the possibility of using all this wealth inside the country without introducing an emergency regime?

    I recall a description of the actions of the US Nezavisimost in New Orleans after the flood. In order to restore order, there were entered, among other things, the units of NG Arkansas that passed Iraq (more precisely, they just got out of the fighting in Baghdad during the next uprising).
    "It is almost like in Iraq - only a lot of water and everyone speaks English."
    "When we take to the streets, we are always ready to open fire. I didn’t spend a year in Iraq to be killed in Louisiana."
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    2. g1v2
      g1v2 17 May 2016 21: 36
      -1
      A ministry of internal defense is being created. I have long been for it. Syria, Ukraine - they were broken inside. Chechnya again. The idea was that there shouldn’t be an army there - just such a structure should have been sorted out there. Yes, a lot of tasks - once listed in one of the comments. Well, and not the last - parts of the centuries, and now the Russian Guard must be able to disarm any rebellious part of the mo. Nothing personal, but we were also told this in the lessons on the tactics of centuries. hi
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 17 May 2016 22: 46
        -1
        Quote: g1v2
        A ministry of internal defense is being created.
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 17 May 2016 18: 02
    +3
    I would like to reconcile the ardent debaters. The goals and objectives of the ROSGUARD are already discussed enough here. Note - this is about peacetime and the fight against terrorism. I understand that Kovalev’s words are taken out of the context of a broad statement and refers to times far from peaceful.
    1. Katman
      Katman 17 May 2016 18: 38
      0
      I absolutely agree that the original statements are needed. And what, RIA Novosti distorts?
      The rhetorical question: Is it possible to believe at least one news agency? As old Müller used to say - I can !. This is about RIA News, CNN, and so on. etc.? How many news agencies are there? Well, for the sake of sports interest - 1000, 100000, 1000000,10000000? and believe everyone? Do not make me laugh. I can be trusted!
  • atamankko
    atamankko 17 May 2016 18: 06
    +1
    It’s good that NG is subordinate to the President,
    sometimes decisions need to be made pretty quickly.
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 17 May 2016 20: 52
      +3
      Are you serious, dear? And what, the Supreme Commander in accordance with the Constitution has no right? Do not tell shaggy - it is already funny ...
  • 31rus2
    31rus2 17 May 2016 18: 11
    +3
    Dear, the reserve needs to be prepared, and not poked a finger at the new structure, and even linked to NATO, naturally in case of war, I will fulfill the most prepared parts of the Russian Guard functions, and there are a lot of them without direct participation in hostilities, and here the question is where is the reserve? That's right in the military registration and enlistment office, so why powder the brains, naturally the use of well-trained and armed units in military operations is justified and necessary, but this is not a reserve, these are independent parts. But the reserve needs to be prepared both for people and equipment
  • Katman
    Katman 17 May 2016 18: 21
    +2
    State Duma deputy ... Mdaa .. Well, why the hell are we calling? All those liable for employment in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB, the Federal Penitentiary Service, in short, to hire in the National Guard. Awesome reserve for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. The deputy was cheated from Ukraine?
  • Katman
    Katman 17 May 2016 18: 47
    +4
    Sorry, I will add. The shoemaker should stitch the boots, and bake the cakes with the pies! (This is about the Army and the National Guard) On my own behalf, if the deputy’s words are correctly conveyed, the deputy should first think (Duma, after all) and then observe it! I see nothing else. PR, Elections on the nose, after all.
    1. Igor39
      Igor39 17 May 2016 19: 10
      0
      And the National Guard will be both a swatch and a reaper and a dude laughing
  • cedar
    cedar 17 May 2016 19: 09
    +1
    Peaceful our time can be called very conditionally. The life of Russia is becoming more and more like a besieged fortress. The blockade, that is, economic sanctions, abuse and insults - inform war, undermining, casting agents, searching for traitors who will open the gates of the enemy, clashes outside the walls, etc. etc.
    I haven’t said that the modern war of the rear, similar to the wars of the 20th century, DOES NOT HAVE. Therefore, the Russian Guard should be no less mobile than the Army and armed accordingly, but you won’t even station it in every village. It makes sense to create a reserve army. Reservists could take on the functions of guards before the revolutionary Russian Empire, naturally taking into account the modern requirements of the National Security Concept of the Russian Federation. But all this would only make sense if there was STATE IDEOLOGY, which is FORBIDDEN to us now (?!) By the Constitution of the Russian Federation!
    Answer yourself to the question, who wrote this constitution and who forbade the ideological rallying of the peoples of Russia and the question of the tasks for the Russian Guard will be exhausted, and at the same time with the illusion of a "peacetime".
    1. Undermined ustoev
      Undermined ustoev 17 May 2016 20: 08
      +3
      Peaceful our time can be called very conditionally. The life of Russia is becoming more and more like a besieged fortress. The blockade, that is, economic sanctions, abuse and insults - inform war, undermining, casting agents, searching for traitors who will open the gates of the enemy, clashes outside the walls, etc. etc.
      Here are just a few statists as they ate in Courchevel, and eat. As the loot was withdrawn to offshore, it is withdrawn. They have not changed anything. It has changed among ordinary workers, who have cut their salaries and inflated prices, cutting the salary level even more, and optimized the social rate to the heap, reducing workers in this sphere by 8-10% in certain sectors of this social sphere. Why do livestock need education, medicine and other libraries? Let him plow in three shifts, the doshirak waits and feels himself a patriot. Communicating. And if it doesn’t help, they will take Navalny out of the closet or someone else to scare those morons who have doubts so that they would run alive for Edro / KPRF / LDPR / SR / to enter the missing vote.
      Reservists, could take on the functions of guards before the revolutionary Russian Empire
      They took it, by the way. Only for some reason then they went over to the side of the Februaryists. Perhaps they, too, from behind the hill were sponsored?
      But all this would only make sense if there was STATE IDEOLOGY, which is now FORBIDDEN to us (?!) By the Constitution of the Russian Federation!
      Which does not prevent the planting of a bourgeois ideology, the cornerstone of which is the right to private ownership of the means of production, and, which automatically follows from the first, the right to personal enrichment by any means available, from cutting wages and raising prices to direct plunder of enterprises. You didn’t think about it at your leisure, and why haven’t you rewritten the ban on ideology yet? After all, we have legislatively limited the article on free assemblies. So why has this not been done with this very article, where ideology is supposedly prohibited?
      Answer yourself to the question, who wrote this constitution and who forbade the ideological rallying of the peoples of Russia and the question of the tasks for the Russian Guard will be exhausted, and at the same time with the illusion of a "peacetime".
      I answered myself. The constitution was written by the bourgeoisie in the interests of the bourgeoisie and dictated by the bourgeoisie, since this class now dominates, and, accordingly, writes laws and explains through, for example, media controlled by law about, for example, rights. Our state is legal. After all, is it so in the textbooks of high school Nopeisano? But it is not Nopeisano what law is, but law, as one very clever uncle wrote, is the will of the ruling class elevated to the law. So the illusion of peace is only for those whom the Russian Guard is going to defend together with the VV-Schnicks.
  • Undermined ustoev
    Undermined ustoev 17 May 2016 19: 40
    +4
    Quote: Homo
    Quote: Portolan
    this "national guard" is to suppress internal unrest, and not an army force to protect the HOMELAND

    Unrest is also different. Adequate themselves diverge, not leading to bloodshed. And the suppression of the inadequate, sponsored from behind a hillock, the purpose of which is the overthrow of legitimate authority - this is the defense of the Motherland! soldier

    The builders of the East, who staged a strike that almost turned into an open riot, were also sponsored from behind the hill? Workers of UVZ (the only enterprise where the t-90 can do, and not only it), who went on strike due to mass cuts, are also sponsored from behind the mound? And those who plan to close it to hell, effective owners in the civil service in this way uphold and increase the country's defense capability, which is also due to the renewal of outdated weapons. Only now, everything from this plant is in the way, panimish. That's why, in the amount of 2000 pieces per scruff and onto the street, and to the effective owner, Rosguard in defense. The Guard protects the interests of the state, right? Well, those same owners who work in the public service and carry out all kinds of optimizations. Or is this Rosguard protecting the state from something ephemeral? So how many modern Lena executions should happen so that something like that clicks in your head? Ten, twenty, one hundred and twenty?
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 17 May 2016 21: 41
      +3
      Quote: Undermining the Foundations
      So how many modern Lena executions should happen so that something like that clicks in your head? Ten, twenty, one hundred and twenty?

      They invented horror stories for themselves, and now scream like a victim ..

      - who will give "to close UVZ"? Who makes the same Armatu, for example?
      - who was taken by the scruff of the East? Hard workers? Or are they crooks?
      - in Vostochny, as a souvenir, about 20 criminal cases were opened according to the results of the audit ... and not for hard workers, mind you No.

      By the way .. about the Kalashnikov too, it was, yelling: "Close, save, help !!" Closed? Nope ..

      Quote: http://kalashnikovconcern.ru/press/press-relizy/kontsern-kalashnikov-otkryl-posl
      e-modernizatsii-pyat-novyh-proizvodstvennyh-obektov.html
      The Kalashnikov concern, part of Rostec State Corporation, has commissioned updated workshops and new buildings for the production of small arms, special equipment and tools, as well as a logistics center and administrative complex, as part of the Investment Program for the Modernization of Key Production Assets 2014-2017

      Unexpectedly, huh? And with UVZ it will be no worse, I assure you ..

      In Rosgvardia, the main thing is the re-subordination of local power structures to the Center. If I were in the place of the local "elit" (who used to rotate these security forces as they wanted) I would feel .. well, very uncomfortable ..

      And you - "shootings, shootings .." fool
      1. Undermined ustoev
        Undermined ustoev 17 May 2016 23: 53
        +1
        - who was taken by the scruff of the East? Hard workers? Or are they crooks?
        - in Vostochny, as a souvenir, about 20 criminal cases were opened according to the results of the audit ... and not for hard workers, mind you

        Landing, confiscation? Where is all this?
        Unexpectedly, huh? And with UVZ it will be no worse, I assure you ..
        About ZIL, too, they shouted that they would not close it.
        In Rosgvardia, the main thing is the re-subordination of local power structures to the Center. If I were in the place of the local "elit" (who used to rotate these security forces as they wanted) I would feel .. well, very uncomfortable ..
        Are these the very people who are appointed from above, as suggested by the Supreme?
        Unexpectedly, huh? And with UVZ it will be no worse, I assure you ..
        But for some reason, against the background of screams about the modernization of the millionth army in the only enterprise that can provide this very modernization, that is, to renew the fleet of equipment, instead of expanding production, two thousand people are being reduced. Something solitaire doesn't fit.
        And you - "shootings, shootings .."
        So everything is ahead, the working protest movement is growing. Over the past year, doubled compared to the period 2011-2014. The hour is not right; the Red Banner will be raised, and there, even before the creation of the Soviets, there is a stone's throw.
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        2. Getoetet
          Getoetet 18 May 2016 00: 09
          +1
          The whiskers are right, solitaire games do not converge one after the other — it’s kind of strange even, it seems, they open factories but ... like in the Film Shtrafbat: I heard many times, but I never saw .... gee gee
        3. Cat man null
          Cat man null 18 May 2016 10: 58
          +1
          Quote: Undermining the Foundations
          Landing, confiscation? Where is all this?

          - there is a consequence, as I understand it. Then there will be a trial. And only then, maybe .. Normal procedure ..

          Quote: Undermining the Foundations
          About ZIL, too, they screamed that they would not close it

          - root vegetable with a finger, please compare? Nu-nu ..

          Quote: Undermining the Foundations
          Are these the very people who are appointed from above, as suggested by the Supreme?

          - exactly. And also their subordinates. And, yes - do you imagine the mechanism of "presentation"? The hike is not very ..

          Quote: Undermining the Foundations
          in the only enterprise capable of modernization, instead of expanding production, two thousand people are being reduced. Something solitaire doesn't fit.

          Mdya .. clinic .. and so here if?

          Quote: http://ria.ru/economy/20160216/1375233331.html#ixzz48zHUHC9w
          MOSCOW, Feb 16 - RIA News. Management of a research and production corporation Uralvagonzavod (UVZ) did not cut staff last year and does not plan to carry out them this, said on Tuesday the press service of UVZ.
          Earlier, about 70 workers staged a rally to protest the layoffs at Uralvagonzavod. Commenting on this information, the company reported that there were no redundancies, planned optimization is underway by eliminating vacancies

          Who do you want to believe - you, or the press service of UVZ? wink

          Solitaire, hike, only in your brain it doesn’t fit ..

          Quote: Undermining the Foundations
          labor protest movement is growing

          - what kind of "movement" is that? Let me remind you:

          Quote: Constitution of the Russian Federation, article 13
          5. It is forbidden to create and operate public associations whose goals or actions are aimed at forcibly changing the foundations of the constitutional system...


          Quote: Undermining the Foundations
          Over the past year, doubled compared to the period 2011-2014

          - from one brow to two?
          - and, by the way, a reference to the source of information - bring? I don't want to believe you a word .. after UVZ laughing

          That's something like yes
  • jungler
    jungler 17 May 2016 21: 05
    +2
    Hmm ... well .. the musketeers .. (pah - the army) - understand for the King, and who is His Grace Cardinal Armand Du Plessis Richelieu ??? Nothing lasts forever .... The guard serves the authorities ...
  • Getoetet
    Getoetet 17 May 2016 21: 13
    0
    national guard-leibstandart, in Iraq also the national guard was-who is poor to protect himself, hides a knife under his pillow or an ax — who is richer — the trunk, who is wealthy — hires protection from pitching-priap — well, the powers that be create this national guard, Schutz-Staffel
  • DECORATOR
    DECORATOR 17 May 2016 21: 30
    +3
    Well, well ... Just before the elections ... Oh, yes, "to fight terrorism"! Well, I'm stupid ...
    1. Undermined ustoev
      Undermined ustoev 18 May 2016 00: 39
      -2
      “The petty-bourgeois democrats, such as our Socialist-Revolutionaries and Mensheviks, as well as their siblings, all social-chauvinists and opportunists of Western Europe, are waiting precisely
      “Greater” from universal suffrage. They themselves share and inspire the people with the false idea that universal suffrage "in the present state" can really reveal the will of the majority of working people and consolidate its implementation. "

      V.I. Lenin. State and revolution. t. 33 PSS.
      Congratulations. You yourself have discerned to what I have reached only in the process of studying the works of those comrades whom their class enemies diligently throw shit for quite a long time.
  • jonht
    jonht 18 May 2016 05: 36
    +2
    I read 10 comments, and I realized here some couch patriots are discussing what is not in their competence, competencies, but everyone already knows for sure: 1. it is against us, 2. against the aggressor, 3. dispersal of grandmothers and much, much more ... Even if the goals of the Russian Guard are precisely these, and even more so different, YOU definitely will not affect it at all .... Until the 10th century, we also had a written language, until 1918 there were more letters in the alphabet, but at the moment RUSSIAN is spelled correctly. ...
  • hohkn
    hohkn 18 May 2016 06: 08
    +4
    Quote: guzik007
    They are driven to the seventh sweat with batons and shields to work out the repulse of the crowd. And the infantry is trained in a very different way.

    This is also necessary, unfortunately. The army is not trained in this from the word "at all". And besides all this, combined arms training is also at the level. And do not forget, the capture of armed and especially dangerous criminals is also the task of the OMON and SOBR.
    Quote: guzik007
    Without serious retraining, this is cannon fodder. Remember the loss of riot police in the Chechen company and the attitude of combat officers

    And there are a lot of that OMON among the dead? These were consolidated detachments, which we did not call other than "rabble". We have 13 dead in SOBR for the entire period of its existence. Bitter losses, but you can't get away from them.
  • nrex
    nrex 18 May 2016 14: 10
    -1
    If not for the NKVD troops during the Second World War, the German would have drowned our land in blood. There would not be May 9, but there would be slavery and work on the Third Reich. You read the history of your country a little bit, and don’t see words about the paradise life of TAM. So no where is it not !!! Do you want to live in paradise? So you are already there, a little effort and desire, and dreams will come true!