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The National Interest: Russian videoconferencing is now not far behind the West in a key direction

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Despite a significant reduction in the intensity of combat work, the operation of the Air and Space Forces of Russia in Syria continues and continues to be of great interest to domestic and foreign specialists. In this regard, in the foreign press there are more and more new materials, the authors of which reveal the various features of the current modernization of the Russian armed forces.


Among other areas of development, the renewal of electronic systems for combat is of great interest. aviation. This is the subject of Dave Majumdar’s article “The Russian Air Force Was Always Behind the West in One Key Area (Until Now)” (“The Russian Air Force has always lagged behind the West in one key direction (until recently)”), published on May 11 The National Interest. As is clear from the title, the author of the article believes that Russian specialists managed to sharply reduce the previously existing backlog in one of the most important areas.

At the beginning of his article, an American journalist makes conclusions about the current Russian operation in Syria. The latest events, in his opinion, clearly show that the “previously dilapidated” military aircraft recovered after the fall of the nineties, associated with the collapse of the Soviet Union. New high-precision weapons and the latest combat aircraft, such as the Su-30CM, Su-34 and Su-35С, were demonstrated, but it is clear that Russia still lacks some capabilities.

The National Interest: Russian videoconferencing is now not far behind the West in a key direction


One of these problems previously was the lack of modern target designation and targeting systems, similar to the American suspended sighting containers Northrop Grumman Litening G4 or Lockheed Martin Sniper. Nevertheless, it seems that Russia intends to get rid of this lag. The creation of new tools that will help catch up with progress in foreign countries is being carried out by Rostec and Precision Instrument Engineering Systems.

According to the latest data of the Russian press, by the end of the year, the Aerospace Forces should begin testing the latest suspended sighting container with special equipment. According to Izvestia, the representatives of the military department held all the necessary consultations with defense industry experts, and also agreed on the timing of the work. Testing for new means of combat aviation will begin this year.

According to D. Majumdar, the new outboard container for Russian aircraft can be used by various types of equipment. Its carriers can become Su-30CM, Su-35С, Su-34 and MiG-35 aircraft. In terms of technical appearance, this system will differ little from foreign analogues. The equipment of the satellite navigation equipment will be included in the composition of the container, and in addition, optical-electronic and laser systems will be used to search for targets, target designation and weapon guidance. It is also possible to use video transmission and reception systems similar to those used in the United States. At the same time, the author notes that accurate data on various features of the new Russian systems are not yet available.

D. Majumdar believes that Russian specialists have accelerated work on the new project after the first analyzes of the combat experience of the Syrian operation. The study of the combat work of aviation could show the importance of using additional equipment for the use of weapons. In this case, the author recalls the accusations of the Russian military aviation in the low accuracy of the strikes. In his opinion, such results of the combat operation of aircraft can be associated precisely with the absence of outboard sighting containers, which are responsible for the use of high-precision weapons.

Until recently, the Russian industry did not produce and did not even develop containers with special equipment. However, realizing the need for such systems, at the beginning of the two thousand years, Moscow negotiated the purchase or even licensed production of the French systems Thales Damocles. The contract for the supply of finished equipment was not signed, and negotiations to buy a license did not yield the expected results. At the same time, despite all the efforts made, the industry was not able to create a similar system with the required characteristics.

Referring to Izvestia, the American journalist reveals a possible reason for the successful completion of the development of a new Russian project. Not so long ago, Russian enterprises managed to master the production of piezoelectric ceramic film with a thickness up to 100 microns. Such a technological breakthrough allows you to create various new systems, including suspension targeting systems. Films with the required characteristics are produced by SRI "ELPA" (Zelenograd). This organization initially encountered some difficulties, but later was able to establish a full-fledged production of new products.

Thanks to the emergence of new materials, the Precision Instrument Engineering Systems Corporation was given the opportunity to begin developing a new suspension system for combat aircraft. The design of the new container was reportedly completed at the end of last year. Production of the new product should start at the end of the summer of 2016, after which the project will be ready for testing. D. Majumdar assumes that the appearance of a container with targeting equipment will allow us to bring the strike capabilities of Russian aircraft to the level of existing fourth-generation American fighters such as the F-15, F-16 or F / A-18.

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News On the completion of the development of the first domestic outboard sighting container for combat aircraft, the 6 of May appeared. An unnamed representative of the Aerospace Forces spoke to Izvestia about current work and some plans for industry and the military. In addition, it is reported that several domestic organizations are currently engaged in the development of containers, but only one project has approached the testing at the moment.

According to reports, the new sighting containers will be equipped with optical-electronic systems and other equipment necessary to determine the location of the target and calculate the parameters of the use of weapons. It is assumed that the use of such systems will allow existing aircraft to use weapons with greater efficiency. The probability of detecting and correctly identifying targets should increase, and the accuracy of shooting and the overall effectiveness of strikes should also increase.

Perspective outboard sighting containers are intended for installation on airplanes with limited impact capabilities for ground targets. With the help of such equipment, fighters, which are limited in their ability to destroy ground targets, are able to use a wider range of weapons with a greater effectiveness of strikes. Thus, with the aid of outboard equipment, a fighter can become a full-fledged front-line bomber with relatively high characteristics.

It is reported that over the next few months, the Precision Instrument Engineering Systems Corporation should produce a prototype of the new system, after which it will begin testing, including with the use of an aircraft carrier. Successful completion of these and subsequent work will significantly increase the impact potential of domestic front-line aviation. Thus, the title of the article from The National Interest will accurately reflect the current situation: the lag will indeed remain in the past.


The article "Until Russian, The Russian Air Force Was Always Behind the West in One Key Area":
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-russian-air-force-was-always-behind-the-west-one-key-16164
News "Izvestia" on the current status of the project:
http://izvestia.ru/news/612356
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  1. inkass_98
    inkass_98 18 May 2016 07: 19
    +14
    It seems that Mr. D. Majumdar periodically, once in 10-15 years, crawls out of the bunker completely isolated from the outside world and begins to tell the same colleagues from the same bunker in surprise about the state of the Russian Armed Forces. Now he has learned about Russian aviation: it turns out there are Su-30 and Su-34!
    Yes, tree-sticks, already in 1994 in the popular literature such as "Modern fighters" and "Modern bombers" these aircraft were discussed as completely ready-made machines, simply not yet adopted for service. More than 20 years have passed, really, nothing has moved from its place during this time, nothing new has appeared in our army?
    I am more and more convinced that his reviews were not calculated by the average American "rednecks" who live on their collective farms and see nothing else around.
    1. Nik_One
      Nik_One 18 May 2016 07: 44
      +3
      Well, unfortunately, we didn’t have any well-known sighting containers ... It’s good that the situation is correcting and the aerospace forces will be able to use unused potentials. The same Su-30SM would be very welcome.
      1. Leto
        Leto 18 May 2016 08: 07
        0
        Quote: Nik_One
        The same Su-30SM would be very welcome.

        Not only. The upgraded Su-25 and Su-24 get new opportunities. The same Yak-130 can reveal the potential of its board much wider.
        1. edeligor
          edeligor 18 May 2016 08: 42
          +1
          Quote: Leto
          The Yak-130 can reveal the potential of its board much wider.

          Yes of course. Only to compare this board, with the same rook is incorrect, agree.
          1. Leto
            Leto 18 May 2016 09: 05
            0
            Quote: edeligor
            Only to compare this board, with the same rook is incorrect, agree.

            I agree. In general, I believe that everyone should do their own thing, bomb the Su-25, teach the Yak-130 ...
            1. oblako
              oblako 18 May 2016 12: 58
              0
              ... learn to bomb cheaply ...
            2. pavelty
              pavelty 18 May 2016 17: 02
              0
              Everything is right The Yak-130 should learn, but they will buy the Yak-130 with a new container and new features, and without it -
              M-346, for example. And there are new opportunities for training our pilots, in general, it’s good.
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        2. GSH-18
          GSH-18 21 May 2016 01: 25
          0
          however, it is clear that Russia still lacks some opportunities.
          The National Interest: Russian videoconferencing is now not far behind the West in a key direction
          One of such problems earlier was the lack of modern targeting and guidance systems, similar to American hanging sighting containers. Thus, the title of the article from The National Interest will accurately reflect the current situation: the backlog will indeed remain in the past.

          Some kind of nonsense! Majumdar not owning the subject, however, has the stupidity of expressing his opinion fool
      2. GSH-18
        GSH-18 21 May 2016 01: 07
        0
        Quote: Nik_One
        Well, we didn’t have any well-known sighting containers ..

        And who said that these containers are generally needed on our latest aircraft? Majumdar can fantasize further, using outdated Facebook info fool
        These containers are molded on airliners, as a modernization in order to increase capabilities, since this equipment cannot be shoved into the new NATO aircraft. Why don’t they mold these containers on F-22 and F-35 ???
        And so our Dryers do not need it.
        We can only talk about the Su-24 and Su-25. Someone in doubt? Ask daisies if you find survivors after our airstrikes! lol
    2. cap
      cap 18 May 2016 09: 49
      +2
      Quote: inkass_98
      I am more and more convinced that his reviews were not calculated by the average American "rednecks" who live on their collective farms and see nothing else around.


      Just before the Syrian events, the combat capabilities of the Russian Armed Forces were not covered in any way.
      And then all the media started talking. Russia sent troops to Syria.
      -Russia sent troops?
      -And what do she have?
      So I have to say half the truth.
      - Yes, but we are still better.

      Here the dog is buried.
      I read this article and understood it that way.
  2. grandson of the hero
    grandson of the hero 18 May 2016 07: 34
    +5
    To publish an article by D. Mamzhurdar in a magazine like "young technician" or "peasant woman". Let him talk in detail about the modernization of cutlery on submarines and changing the angle of sharpening of sapper shovels.
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    2. dmitrii.safonov.dm
      dmitrii.safonov.dm 18 May 2016 08: 15
      +2
      The young technician will not ride !!! And even to the "peasant" with great difficulty !!! The collective farmer is more suitable!
    3. Tibidokh
      Tibidokh 18 May 2016 14: 26
      +1
      Quote: Hero's grandson
      To publish an article by D. Mamzhurdar in a magazine like "young technician" or "peasant woman". Let him talk in detail about the modernization of cutlery

      From time to time, I observe how Mamjurdar at NI argues with American ury potreots (although there will be khurra potpots in their wassat ).
      He quite objectively (for a foreigner) covers the changes in the armaments of the countries of the world. And often engaging in controversy with readers in the comments to their articles.
      Now you can observe the following trend. As soon as readers begin to comment on his articles on NI, there is a fling of verbal diarrhea from government trolls about the occupation of Ukraine, the fault of the USSR in unleashing the Second World War, and Russia's support for ISIS. Thus, they are trying to divert attention from the essence of the articles of Mamjurdar, who rarely criticizes our weapons.

      Consequently, you vainly mock about the articles of this person. His articles contain at least some laudatory information about our weapons. And this is something.
      Personally, I’m tired of reading in American, Chinese and some European forums that Russians have all weapons rusted and made back in the days of Stalin and Beria.
  3. Leto
    Leto 18 May 2016 07: 37
    -3
    Oh Dave! How they love you in VO! Or is The National Interest an American branch of VO?
    Russian VKS now keep up with the West in a key direction

    And what is the "keeping up" of our VKS from the "Western" ones? The fact that "high-precision" ammunition with the KAB-500Kr television guidance system and the KAB-500S GPS guidance system are used?
    1. Nobody in the world uses bombs with TV guidance, this is the last century, moreover, the 1991 Iraq war. showed the vulnerability of this guidance system.
    2. The range of KAB-500 of all variants is 6-9 km, the American "analogue" AGM-154 JSOW is 24-64 km. depending on the drop height.
    On the contrary, this is a sign of a terrible crisis in the field of "smart bombs"? Not to mention the fact that we are not able to create guidance / control kits for conventional free-fall bombs.

    Further, Dave for "not lagging behind" gives out the next attempts of the domestic military-industrial complex to create a suitable suspended sighting container (if everything works out this will be the first in the history of the Aerospace Forces), despite the fact that the first targeting pods appeared in the damned west back in the 70s of the last century ...

    In the field of ASP and sighting and navigation systems, Russia is still lagging behind the notorious "West" and the progress that had begun in eliminating this lag was lost by the imposed sanctions. No matter how bitter it is to realize.
    1. edeligor
      edeligor 18 May 2016 08: 52
      +1
      I agree with you here.
      Quote: Leto
      In the field of ASP and sighting and navigation systems, Russia still lags behind the notorious "west"

      Even under the Union, we seriously lagged behind in the field of REO, especially in numbers, but not in the field of radar systems, where sometimes they exceeded those created in the West. Add 90 years, the almost complete destruction of our elemental base and the output is today's lag. Thanks KRET, we are making up a little, but still not competitors, unfortunately ...
      1. Leto
        Leto 18 May 2016 09: 01
        -3
        Quote: edeligor
        Thanks KRET, we are making up a little, but still not competitors, unfortunately ...

        Let's be more precise, thanks to Thales who (albeit for money) helped reduce the backlog.
    2. kos2910
      kos2910 18 May 2016 09: 17
      +3
      But the aiming system Herfest was not impressed? The accuracy of conventional bombs from a height of 6 km - 5m. If in Syria, little use - expensive. And where is the NATO counterpart and how much does it cost?
      1. Leto
        Leto 18 May 2016 11: 26
        -3
        Quote: kos2910
        But the aiming system Herfest was not impressed?

        Similar systems began to be installed back in the 80s.
        Quote: kos2910
        The accuracy of conventional bombs from a height of 6 km - 5m.

        You distinguish agitprop from reality?

        Quote: kos2910
        And where is the NATO counterpart

        Hephaestus? AN / ASN-141 for example.
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 18 May 2016 11: 30
        -1
        "Didn't the Gerfest aiming system impress you?
        The accuracy of hitting conventional bombs from a height of 6 km - 5m "////

        Tales for small children (or rather - for viewers smile ).
        If you manage to lay in a distance of 5 km to 50 m - lucky.
        So below 5 km there were no strong transverse winds.
        Even with military GPS and GOS bombs with auto-adjustment of the wings of the bomb (nozzle)
        there are exits beyond 5 m.
        1. DimerVladimer
          DimerVladimer 18 May 2016 12: 06
          +2
          The NORDEN sight on the B-17 gave a KVO of 23 m from a height of 6 km.

          Once adopted, Norden's sights became one of the most guarded secrets in the United States. The level of secrecy sometimes even exceeded the secrecy of the Manhattan project. Sights without fail were equipped with self-destruction devices to exclude the possibility of their falling into the hands of the enemy. In 1937, German Lang, who worked at the Norden factory, was able to secretly transfer the drawings of the sight to Hermann Goering, but Germany was unable to establish mass production of these sights for various reasons. But US aviation, these sights were vital, especially for high-altitude bombers B-17 Flying Fortress, who carried out bombing from a height inaccessible to anti-aircraft artillery and required the use of high-precision sights. Despite the temperature of −40 degrees, the roar of engines and the constant ruptures of anti-aircraft shells, the scorers of the “flying fortresses” in silk gloves, in order not to damage the sight, we observed through the optical system a target that seemed motionless due to the stabilization system.

          At that moment, the aircraft was controlled through the sight in such a way that the course lay exactly at the point of discharge or with an offset to compensate for wind shear. As we approach this point on an immovable target, crosshairs of the sight were combined, after which data on ballistics of bombs, corrections for wind, speed and flight altitude were entered into it. The sight captured the target and subsequently accompanied it in automatic mode, the reset could be carried out automatically at the command of the sight or manually. Working with the sight required serious preparation, which took 4 months, and the sight itself cost $ 6000 - a lot of money at that time. All these shortcomings were compensated by very high accuracy - the probable circular deviation was 23 meters, that is, 2 times more accurate than the Soviet OPB-1M. The German Lotfernrohr 7 had a CVT of about 35 meters, but was easier to use. Norden sights were used on various bombers that participated in raids on Germany and Japan.
          In August 1945, the B-29s, which dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, used Norden sights. After the war, a copy of the Norden sight was equipped, in particular, with the Soviet Tu-4 bombers.
          The completion of the use of Norden sights occurred only after the development of radio sights such as AN / APQ-13, AN / APS-15 and their modifications. Radio sights were deprived of the main drawback of the Norden sight - an optical system with which guidance was possible only in cloudless weather.
          http://wiki.wargaming.net/ru/Navy:Прицел_Нордена
      3. Tibidokh
        Tibidokh 18 May 2016 15: 28
        +1
        Quote: kos2910
        Herfest aiming system

        Now I will find fault with you, just do not be offended. smile
        1. Hephaestus is part of the company name "Hephaestus and T". Although it is quite clear that you mean SVP-24, SVP-24-22 and SVP-24-25.
        2. SVP-24 is a special computing subsystem that is not an aiming system in the full sense of the word, because consists of PNO, ground training complex, data exchange system. In short, it is more than an aiming system. A tablet / laptop in the hands of a commander or gunner may be part of the SVP, but you will not call this tablet an aiming system, right?
        3. The sights remained the same recourse . For example, on the Su-24 it is Orion and Kayra.
        Quote: kos2910
        And where is the NATO counterpart and how much does it cost?

        The NATO counterpart is only in the F-35. It consists of AFAR, electron-optical system, high-resolution video camera, computer system, helmet-mounted central control system, data transmission channel.
        It is fabulously expensive, but for those who print dollars, this is a mere trifle.
        With respect! hi
  4. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 18 May 2016 08: 27
    +4
    In this regard, more and more new materials appear in the foreign press, the authors which reveal
    But for some reason, for the most part, materials from super-expert Jimmy Jimmy get to our forum wassat Come on, burn the verb good ! First I read the comments, and then the material itself, if I have time. I always do this when the author is Majumdar. Ah! Ah! laughing
  5. Wolka
    Wolka 18 May 2016 09: 37
    +1
    the success of the HSC of the Russian Federation by 50% depends not only on the new types of weapons used, but also on competent staff operational-tactical planning based on repeatedly verified intelligence and a consistent systematic approach as a whole in conducting specific military operations
    1. Leto
      Leto 18 May 2016 11: 40
      -4
      Quote: Volka
      the success of the HSC of the Russian Federation by 50% depends not only on the new types of weapons used, but also on competent staff operational-tactical planning based on repeatedly verified intelligence and a consistent systematic approach as a whole in conducting specific military operations

      2h2 = 4 wink
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 18 May 2016 12: 08
      0
      "based on repeatedly verified intelligence" ////

      No matter how you check the intelligence, if you throw an uncontrollable one on the roof of the building
      bomb from a height of 5 km, then the probability of falling is not more than 20%. Whatever
      wound sight on an airplane.
      If you want to fill the building with guarantee, 4 bombs will be required (at least)
      of 2 planes (make a "square" on the ground, in the center of which is the target).

      An alternative is 1 bomb from a shaving flight at an altitude of up to several hundred meters.
      At risk of getting a rocket from MANPADS into the nozzle.

      Before the appearance of precision bombs, they worked on the ground or in the way 1) carpet bombing
      or 2) from a shaving flight.
      1. Leto
        Leto 18 May 2016 12: 36
        -3
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Before the appearance of precision bombs, they worked on the ground or in the way 1) carpet bombing
        or 2) from a shaving flight.

        3) from a steep dive "a la Rudel"
  6. Angor
    Angor 18 May 2016 12: 24
    +2
    Quote: inkass_98
    It seems that Mr. D. Majumdar periodically, once in 10-15 years, crawls out of the bunker completely isolated from the outside world and begins to tell the same colleagues from the same bunker in surprise about the state of the Russian Armed Forces. Now he has learned about Russian aviation: it turns out there are Su-30 and Su-34!
    Yes, tree-sticks, already in 1994 in the popular literature such as "Modern fighters" and "Modern bombers" these aircraft were discussed as completely ready-made machines, simply not yet adopted for service. More than 20 years have passed, really, nothing has moved from its place during this time, nothing new has appeared in our army?
    I am more and more convinced that his reviews were not calculated by the average American "rednecks" who live on their collective farms and see nothing else around.




    1994 there was a mess in the state, aimed at destroying the economy and the army. At that time, the country's policy was such a suicidal one. Today the country's situation has changed (I will not discuss why).
    It may seem strange to you, but all the states in the world (of our civilization) are not yet ready to move to a new technological level. This will happen only during a big concussion - an impending war (Fifth generation airplanes still do not fly as they should, and the sixth is only a dream, although rockets stuffed with all kinds of electronics use the same principles as 50 years ago, robots are just a bunch of iron .....) We are at the peak of our era, but have not stepped over in the next.
    Therefore, it is precisely in the military sphere that Russia is doing the right thing. It is modernizing existing weapons and smoothly leading and commissioning new developments and working methods.
    And so our business is small smile we will use these weapons when necessary soldier
  7. Finntroll
    Finntroll 18 May 2016 16: 10
    +2
    Taking off my hat hi Since earlier in VO he repeatedly wrote that there is no real import substitution ... But this news is good) it means slowly with a fierce creak that something is still changing.
  8. bars1
    bars1 18 May 2016 20: 13
    0
    Real import substitution is and will continue to go exclusively in the defense industry and related industries.
    1. Finntroll
      Finntroll 19 May 2016 16: 35
      0
      So, forgive me of course, but the military-industrial complex - scientific and technological progress. Nuclear energy (thanks to the military-industrial complex), jet passenger planes (thanks to the military-industrial complex), computers, and here the military-industrial complex, the Internet, of course ... and also teflon, kapron, semiconductors, radio communications, and a heap, a heap of everything else.
  9. bars1
    bars1 18 May 2016 21: 43
    +1
    In addition to KOEP and T220, PrnK 101 KS-N is still being developed, but it is for T-50. Although in the future, perhaps, it will be used on other aircraft
    By the way, the MiG-29M with the current T220 has been flying in Zhukovsky since at least January 2015.
  10. Rock616
    Rock616 19 May 2016 10: 45
    -1
    Dumb Yankees, your oracle
    Again wrong ... Russian Spirit
    Once again puts you in cancer ...
    Well, what is Dave Majumdar, dumb?
    You do not understand Russia, tv @ ri.
    We ask us the right pace.
    We, according to you, God will give, hit.
    Wait, b ... lin, Do understand?
    I beg you not to publish DAVE DEGENERAT's articles, this "creature" is dumber than a chicken ....... Amen! am