USC: In Russia, for the first time in more than half a century, they will begin construction of a passenger cruise liner

Despite the fact that news It has no direct relation to geopolitical issues, nor to the military and military-technical spheres, it is worthy not to ignore it. In the course of the launch of the 6 International Forum “Marine Industry of Russia” in Moscow, it was announced that this year a project to create a domestic passenger cruise liner is starting in our country. This news was voiced by the head of the United Shipbuilding Corporation Alexei Rakhmanov.

This event is remarkable, at least in that it will be the first passenger cruise liner that our country is going to build after the 60-year break.

RIA News cites statement Alexey Rakhmanov:

This year will be laid for the first time in 60 years of the Russian stories passenger cruise liner.

Details about the preparation for the construction and the characteristics of the future Russian passenger cruise liner are not reported.

One of the topics on the forum is devoted to the development of civil shipbuilding in Russia. In particular, there is a discussion of the implementation of important infrastructure projects - the construction of rail and road-rail ferries for the Kaliningrad and Sakhalin regions of Russia.

Comments

[tiredwithall]

On it, in the first cruise, we will hold the first in-person conference of VO.

[The black]

The cruise ship is, of course, wonderful, but I would be more pleased with the construction of the fishing fleet.

[gray smeet]

Oh my god, you are 60 years old !!! Only comrade Stalin needed, the rest did not even think about it, but only mercilessly used the created goods !!!!!
Will river cruise liners be built?

[bulvas]

Quote: Black

The cruise ship is, of course, wonderful, but I would be more pleased with the construction of the fishing fleet.

Quote: gray smeet

Oh my god, you are 60 years old !!! Only comrade Stalin needed, the rest did not even think about it, but only mercilessly used the created goods !!!!!
Will river cruise liners be built?

Cruise ship is not from the budget, I don’t think that the state is financing

Most likely, a private customer, his right to order

If I'm wrong about the investor, then ....

[Sergey S.]

Quote: bulvas

Most likely, a private customer, his right to order.
If I'm wrong about the investor, then ....

If the USC is to be built, and the USC announces, then the money will be ours, the people ...

For me it would be better if they built a series of watchdogs.
Cruises are not for our seas.
Even if the liner is Russian, he will walk in the Caribbean or the southern islands of the Pacific Ocean. Passengers will be mostly foreign.
I am sure that a significant part of the crew will be cheap, Asian ...

Something is wrong here.
Russian enterprises will not build a cruise ship. Not before that.

[Amurets]

Quote: gray smeet

Will river cruise liners be built?

Yes! In the GDR, as soon as the money appears.

[Blondy]

Quote: Black

but I would be more pleased with the construction of the fishing fleet.

Why would you be happy? To the fact that with the same price / quality parameters, our construction would have collapsed a couple of times more expensive than, for example, in Korea or China (now, however, the ruble has fallen in price by about two times, but it’s probably still more expensive will be)?

[Blondy]

Having no experience in building such ships in general ... Something else reminds me of all this. In the best case, there will be another "superjet" on the waters. So, in principle, you can already start preparing the front garden so that you can plant it right away.

[bocsman]

Quote: Blondy

Having no experience in building such ships in general ... Something else reminds me of all this. In the best case, there will be another "superjet" on the waters. So, in principle, you can already start preparing the front garden so that you can plant it right away.

Well, I would not be so categorical. What special experience is needed to build a "passenger" ?! Interior decoration, roll dampeners or interior design of restaurants and cafes? So, in addition to domestic designers, you can also hire abroad. Well, if the investor is a private one, then you will not drink there. And in the end, you don't believe so much in Russian shipbuilding ?! So Soviet submarines even had saunas with swimming pools, unlike foreign ones.

[vodolaz]

That's right, civil shipbuilding is also not to be forgotten.

[Magic archer]

Great news! It’s high time. Like the river fleet and the ferry. Having such huge water resources, it’s time to use them correctly! I think many would buy water excursions along Lake Baikal or along large rivers!

[weksha50]

Quote: Magic Archer

I think many would buy water excursions along Lake Baikal or along large rivers!

For ordinary people at prices - you won’t get your hands on it ...
For the wealthy - they (many) are not interested in our rivers and Baikal ...

And first of all, we need a transport and fishing fleet ... However, we would like it to be public and not private ...

[97110]

Quote: weksha50

And first of all, we need a transport and fishing fleet ... However, we would like it to be public and not private ...

Zhora, why do you need a state fleet? Aah, I see. A fleet, if it is not under a convenient flag, is unprofitable. Let the budget bear losses. Once on the railway (they are already on the budget), the second time on the transport fleet. I remember we are countrymen. What is being carried there along the Northern Dvina? There are no rafts, coal used to go down from Kotlas, Vorkutinsky. I am rarely in Limend, the fleet in the backwash only see SDBushny. But to relatives in Privodino a fly by car, not like before, you spend a day there with a steamer there, a day back.

[weksha50]

Quote: 97110

Zhora, why do you need a state fleet? Aah, I see. A fleet, if it is not under a convenient flag, is unprofitable. Let the budget bear losses.

I didn’t mean it, but the fact that these built ships will again belong to a private person, carry the flag of some kind of Panama or Suriname, have an international crew, sail God knows where and it’s not clear what kind of work it is unclear for what purposes, and tax on profits to the budget will not be controlled in any way ....... What is the point then to rejoice at every civilian ship built?

We’re already eating alien fish, oversold three times ...
We supply Syria on old Turkish garbage troughs ...

Ugh !!!

[97110]

Quote: weksha50

again they will belong to a private person, carry the flag of some kind of Panama or Suriname, have an international crew, sail God knows where and to perform it is unclear what kind of work is not clear for what purposes, and the tax on profits to the budget will not be controlled in any way .... ...

Duc capitalism ... Everything will be so, because the charter goal of an enterprise that operates cruise ships is to make a profit. And if they are needed as military transports, then a different funding mechanism. And the harsh "There is no money in the budget" can be heard at any stage of the construction of these sort of military transports.

[arnulla]

You look at the prices of similar cruises !! Our hucksters will not get enough. Therefore, until recently, Turkey and Egypt have been driving ... And they will continue to steer as soon as permission from the authorities and financial opportunities appear. An unobtrusive Soviet-style service no longer suits anyone

[97110]

Quote: arnulla

Our hucksters won't get enough.

Do you really represent the costs of the "huckster"? The first thing that went missing on the river was the passenger fleet. Why? Money began to be counted instead of passenger kilometers. When the premium was from the PMC, tickets for children were sold to adults (2 to 1). There are 2 times more traffic at once. And the money began to be counted - there were no passengers, everyone left by bus.

[vladimirvn]

This is our answer to the Mistrals. The well-being of our population is growing right before our eyes. Probably the working class will ride on a trade union ticket.

[VNP1958PVN]

The welfare of our population is growing right before our eyes

Hacking is useless.

[Smoked]

And even he can, if that, smack Caliber :)

[Dezinto]

it would be necessary ....))

And even he can, if that, smack Caliber :)

yeah, the Russians are the only cruise ship they should build. - "With opportunities"

[godofwar6699]

The biggest cruise ship

[inpu]

Is there enough boats for everyone, or as always?

[RPG_]

As always unsinkable

[engineer74]

Quote: RPG_

As always unsinkable

Meanwhile, at a secret shipyard on Novaya Zemlya, it was launched and is undergoing tests. ..

[iliya87]

In fact, under the UN convention it is forbidden to use civilian vessels for military purposes.
Nooo hypothetically everything is possible

[inpu]

And what do we now knock down a hand?

[Nehist]

What is it that turns out as the French mega liner was launched, so do we also want to have our harness under the tail? It would be better in kind as above Black wrote a fishing fleet rejoiced.

[g1v2]

It does not matter what to build - the main thing is that the shipyards have orders. Liners, seiners, bulk carriers, tankers or trawlers - everything will work.

[13 warrior]

The main thing in the article is that they will build the liner, i.e. large ship! And then all the boats, boats ... At the time to say: well, finally!
Still, they would closely engage in aviation ... Although this is in a different department.))

[arnulla]

It is unlikely that it will be especially large-tonnage. We have no experience in building large ocean cruise liners. They will start (if they start at all), IMHO, from the river. That is, much smaller

[Romin]

I feel that so much energy and projections have accumulated in the management of the USC ... We must realize! I can also offer pleasure boats! They’ll go well!

[Stirbjorn]

I would like more specifics when laying, which shipyard will be built, what displacement, who in the end is the customer of this ship

[flyer]

I think this is good news. Let the cruise ship. Be that as it may, the work is for our shipyards and allies. You see, there they will reach the fishing fleet. Good luck!

[prostocece]

After Putin's election, Abramovich gave him a yacht for 25 million pounds
it's time for the cruise liners to swing

[gray smeet]

Quote: prostocece

After Putin's election, Abramovich gave him a yacht for 25 million pounds
it's time for the cruise liners to swing

Primitively. We read the training manual, change the curator, give sharper and more reasoned comments - and here you are with the money. In the meantime, do not set off.

[prostocece]

but explain in more detail and more clearly please it really needs money

[Air defense Valga]

I agree with my colleague - so far only 2 with a minus. Train, loser.

[prostocece]

so why isn’t the yacht more expensive? or didn’t give but sold

[Sasha75]

It really smells like Mistral, we’ll run around the assembly of large objects using civilian equipment and check the power plants, which is the bad thing and most importantly we need such ships. Ferries abroad buy metal prices, it’s time to build and we will help metallurgists.

[BABA SHURA]

River cruise? Why is it needed? Beggars to ride?

[weksha50]

"This will The first passenger cruise ship that our country intends to build after a 60-year hiatus"...

Hmm ... The news, on the one hand, is joyful - after all, we are trying to re-master the civilian multi-ton shipbuilding ... However, the confusion arises: when the USSR built cruise liners on their own ??

The existing ones, such as "Victory", the deceased "Admiral Nakhimov", etc., were captured German and Italian ships ...
Passenger ships (not cruise liners !!!) such as Adjara, etc. - I don’t remember who they built, however, to cruise liners - like cancer from Moscow to Beijing ...
It is cruise liners of the writer's and poetry line — 6 or 8 ships — M. Lermontov, A. Pushkin, I. Franko, etc. - were built either in Germany or in Finland (I don’t remember already) ...

Ferries were built, no doubt ... At least, in the Caspian our ferries (railway and passenger) went ...

Only the question arises: do we need a backlog or expenditure of financial resources on a cruise ship ??? Even if we talk about the development of shipbuilding technologies and the receipt of currency from tourists in the future, will there be tourists ON OUR cruise ship ???

I would be more happy if some civilian cargo ship, a tanker, a refrigerator, a trawler or a seiner were finally laid out of civilians !!! I’m talking about civil courts because it’s just about them ...

In general, both joyfully and annoyingly ...

[Dimon19661]

Put +, but you can remember the attempt-SHOLOKHOV. Of course, this is more a ferry, but still something like a cruise liner. I remember going to the URITSK passenger in its pure form (I used to go to Kamchatka) - our building.

[weksha50]

Quote: Dimon19661

Put +, but you can remember the attempt-Sholokhov.Of course, this is more a ferry, but still something similar to a cruise ship. I remember going to URITSKpassenger in its purest form (used to go to Kamchatka) -our building.

Sholokhov is a black line of writers and poets (I said that I don’t remember everything) ... Who of the passengers-tourists were loaded with their cars so that they could go sightseeing at the ports of stop ...

Uritsky - this is just from the line of the same Adzharia ... But, you must admit, according to current concepts, these passenger ships cannot be called cruise liners in terms of tonnage or comfort, but by any parameters ...

[guzik007]

Well, what? Normul True, given the current realities, when we are not welcome in warm regions, it would be necessary to have an ice hull and warmer cabins. I-and "pa-ashpala-a-am, on the ice wire. Exotic tour," Murmansk-Anadyr "

[Last paladin]

Russian shipbuilders will build a cruise ship
The ship will go around the Caspian
By 2019, Russian shipbuilders will build the first cruise ship in the post-Soviet era. It is already being compared to a five-star hotel. Konstantin Anisimov, the general director of the Moscow River Shipping Company, told reporters about this on Monday, February 8.
Motor ship "Anton Chekhov", built at a German shipyard in 1978, on the Volga. Photo: Boris Kavashkin / TASS Motor ship "Anton Chekhov", built at a German shipyard in 1978, on the Volga. Photo: Boris Kavashkin / TASS
"The passenger cruise ship is the first project in the post-Soviet period. It is important for Astrakhan, as it is planned to launch cruises in the Caspian Sea. It will be a four-deck ship 140 m long, 16,7 m wide, designed for 300 passengers. Corresponds to about 5- a star hotel in terms of infrastructure - it has restaurants, gyms, spas and a sauna, etc. ", - he specified.
Most of the cabins are planned to be 15 sq. meters. There are also suites of 20-25 sq. M. meters.
Anisimov said that 2 similar vessels will be built. The construction of the first is due to begin this year; completion is planned for 2019, TASS reports. The cost of one liner will be approximately 2,5 billion rubles, the payback period will take from 15 to 25 years.
The Lotos shipyard in Astrakhan and the Krasnoe Sormovo shipyard in Nizhny Novgorod are named one of the three possible applicants for the order.
“Given that Krasnoye Sormovo is more loaded with orders. USC, probably, would be correct to send this order to Lotos, which became a resident of the economic zone,” the head of the shipping company suggested.
In Soviet times, shipbuilding was focused on the military and fishing fleet. In the Soviet Union, only two cruise ships were built - in 1957. Therefore, the USSR bought cruise liners in Europe. Currently, there are about a hundred passenger ships left in Russia and half of them are on the verge of deterioration, because of this the fleet is reduced annually by about 10%.
"Moscow River Shipping Company" is one of the leading companies offering services for the carriage of goods, the supply of nonmetallic building materials of its own production and passengers on the inland waterways of the European part of Russia. The company has over 150 units of cargo and more than 20 units of passenger fleet, as well as handling and mining equipment.
The MRP group includes "Mosturflot", "Mosturflot-service", the port of Kimry and the port of Serpukhov.
JSC "Shipyard" Lotos "is a leading shipbuilding enterprise in the south of Russia, it repairs ship hulls, ship systems and mechanisms.


Natalya KURIPKO

The morning reported back in February

[Verdun]

In Russia, for the first time in more than half a century, they will begin construction of a passenger cruise ship

For most residents of Russia, this news is unlikely to be a cause for rarity.

Quote: Black

The cruise ship is, of course, wonderful, but I would be more pleased with the construction of the fishing fleet. smile

And with this I completely agree. Because someone will go on a cruise to taste fresh fish, and someone will just watch how steadily rising prices for seafood in our stores.

[Funnels]

This bothers me:the construction of railway and automobile-railway ferries for the Kaliningrad and Sakhalin regions of Russia. It is understandable with Kaliningrad, but it’s time to build a bridge on Sakhalin. In Crimea, please, and the islanders are worse. Oh, comrade Stalin would have lived a couple of years, had time to build a tunnel under the strait.

[tolmachiev51]

The question is whether we will see him on our lines !!! ???

[John]

No matter how the workers tried to build a cruise ship, the missile cruiser turned out again and again

[Kotost]

For me, we would do what we know better than others: ships, surface and underwater, and the fleet will be strengthened, and the buyer will always be

[Valter1364]

Just yesterday I wrote in the comments that it was time to revive the passenger fleet. And here is the news! Let the river, but with what you need to start. You look at sea passenger liners in 5-10 years, we get.
And there is no need to gloat. The gloating is not a sign of the mind, but rather its absence.