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Armament tests for the Barguzin are scheduled for the 4 quarter of the 2016.

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Throw test missiles for railway complex (BZHRK) "Barguzin" can pass already in 4-th quarter of this year, according to Look With reference to the general designer of the Moscow Institute of Thermal Engineering (MIT), Yuri Solomonov.




“According to BZHRK, as it was reported, so-called throwing trials are planned this year. They are carried out in order to verify the correctness of the design decisions made from the point of view of the impact of the rocket on the ground launch equipment. This launch is guaranteed to be completed - this will probably be the beginning of the fourth quarter of this year. And the state of affairs for today is such that it inspires absolute optimism that this will be done ",
said the general designer.

“Full-scale work on the complex will be deployed after making decisions on the results of throwing tests. The decision will be made early next year, ”added Solomonov.

Earlier, a source in the Russian defense industry complex announced the beginning of the creation of "separate elements of the combat railway complex."
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  1. evil partisan
    evil partisan 17 May 2016 09: 37
    +6
    Oops! Those. already this year? Great! I did not think that they pile so quickly. Interesting: did the wagons from scratch or will the old ones be used too?
    1. cniza
      cniza 17 May 2016 09: 40
      +7
      Quote: wicked partisan
      Oops! Those. already this year? Great! I did not think that they pile so quickly. Interesting: did the wagons from scratch or will the old ones be used too?


      It looks like everything new, the humpback managed to cut.
      1. Andrey K
        Andrey K 17 May 2016 09: 49
        +19
        Quote: cniza

        It looks like everything new, the humpback managed to cut.

        Just like you, colleague, I am absolutely not delighted with the "marked" request
        But let's be fair: the BZHRK were destroyed under the START-2 treaty, signed by the kind, drunken EBN in 1993hi
        There is no fault of Gorbachev hi
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 17 May 2016 10: 11
          +13
          - I heard the Russians are launching a new intercontinental train? "Barguzin" is called.
          - Is it fast?
          - Nope. Ballistic
          smile
        2. rudolff
          rudolff 17 May 2016 10: 15
          +3
          They were destroyed in the period from 2005 to 2007 after leaving START-2 in 2002.
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        4. Oml
          Oml 17 May 2016 11: 37
          +2
          Quote: Andrey K
          Quote: cniza

          It looks like everything new, the humpback managed to cut.

          Just like you, colleague, I am absolutely not delighted with the "marked" request
          But let's be fair: the BZHRK were destroyed under the START-2 treaty, signed by the kind, drunken EBN in 1993hi
          There is no fault of Gorbachev hi


          How no fault ?? The zejnik is a labeled, ebn successor. Or would the bear not allow this?
          1. weksha50
            weksha50 17 May 2016 15: 14
            0
            Quote: OML
            The zejnik is a labeled, ebn successor. Or would the bear not allow this?


            Just under Mishka, the first regiment of the BZHRK just got on pilot combat duty, and then other complexes went ... In total, two incomplete divisions were deployed ...
        5. Grandfather Eugene
          Grandfather Eugene 17 May 2016 14: 51
          0
          ... But they were removed from service in 2004. GDP was counting on "partners" to come to their senses.
        6. weksha50
          weksha50 17 May 2016 15: 12
          0
          Quote: Andrey K
          There is no fault of Gorbachev



          Cut with EBNtom ...

          And the cars, of course, will be completely new ... Passenger (for rest and meals, for the guard) - taking into account the problems of the 80-90s ... Bearing and command post - as well, especially as a rocket (product) will be easier than the old ...
      2. DMB_95
        DMB_95 17 May 2016 09: 49
        +4
        How did I swear when on TV it was joyfully reported about the reduction of the Soviet BZHRK!
      3. just exp
        just exp 17 May 2016 10: 50
        +2
        Well BZHRK removed from duty under Putin, emnip in 2004, and as far as I remember they didn’t cut it and left it in storage. True, this did not concern rockets. what's with them xs.
        1. DMB_95
          DMB_95 17 May 2016 12: 31
          0
          Quote: just EXPL
          Well BZHRK removed from duty under Putin, emnip in 2004, and as far as I remember they didn’t cut it and left it in storage. True, this did not concern rockets. what's with them xs.

          Soviet and removed. What did I write incorrectly?
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    3. seti
      seti 17 May 2016 09: 42
      +10
      This complex is one of the most needed in our time. Is it a joke that several Yars missiles travel the country in a state of complete combat readiness to strike back at the enemy. Moreover, their composition is indistinguishable from ordinary goods and can travel at a speed of 1000 km per day .. Such a complex is certainly a joker in the deck, and maybe not one.
      1. ALABAY45
        ALABAY45 17 May 2016 10: 02
        +5
        An old friend of mine served in the Kostroma division of the Strategic Missile Forces ... I don't know if he's lying or not, although he doesn't seem to be 52 years old, but in the taiga hut, on short spring nights, I hear about the divorce of contact wires with special rods, the output of the train supports ( wagons), "mortar start", etc. If he drank vodka, I would have begun to doubt, but he does not drink - "torpedo dog" !!! am Can you believe him ?! recourse
        1. DMB_95
          DMB_95 17 May 2016 10: 08
          +3
          Your friend is not lying. So it was.
        2. avt
          avt 17 May 2016 10: 24
          +5
          Quote: ALABAY45
          I hear about the divorce of contact wires with special rods, the output of the train (carriage) supports, "mortar start", etc.

          And you just look at the start from the East from the table "self-propelled" and imagine what even the "Yars" option will do with the carriage and tracks? If you let him in the same way. So the colleague is right
          Quote: DMB_95
          Your friend is not lying. So it was.

          And they also carried out tests for stability at the starting position to a shock wave - they put an armored train next to it and from the echelon of explosives rushed nearby, well, TNT equivalent " wassat Nothing - stood on the tracks, but the windows in the locomotive and in general where they were in the cars flew. Well, that's nice! good Since the days of the Civil Armored Train, they have not disappeared, but they have evolved into strategic ones! bullyIt is a pity Ascetic disappeared somewhere, he could have highlighted the topic qualitatively.
        3. meriem1
          meriem1 17 May 2016 10: 25
          +3
          Quote: ALABAY45
          An old friend of mine served in the Kostroma division of the Strategic Missile Forces ... I don't know if he's lying or not, although he doesn't seem to be 52 years old, but in the taiga hut, on short spring nights, I hear about the divorce of contact wires with special rods, the output of the train supports ( wagons), "mortar start", etc. If he drank vodka, I would have begun to doubt, but he does not drink - "torpedo dog" !!! am Can you believe him ?! recourse

          Yes. So it is. My friend Vanya drove to this one))) Then he worked as a diesel operator at the "section" ... His trained eye on a piece of iron saw a lot. Everything is as you write. Contact line outlet. Hydraulics. It's like that!!!
        4. self-propelled
          self-propelled 17 May 2016 10: 38
          +2

          true. all true. here in the video and the mortar launch, and the removal of the contact network, and the folding nose fairing ...
        5. evil partisan
          evil partisan 17 May 2016 10: 45
          0
          Quote: ALABAY45
          but does not drink - "dog

          Means and does not bite tongues request. So: I continue to wait for the honestly won wink . And you Colleague can enjoy the warm May days yes . The last in the wild ... repeat But I think that your mind will certainly prevail over greed and we will solve our dispute amicably ... winked
          Hi opportunist! drinks
          1. ALABAY45
            ALABAY45 17 May 2016 11: 02
            0
            Hello, beggar! ".. we will settle our dispute amicably ..." Ok, my sons are not online! Your fate would be "short, miserable and unenviable" ... Well, yes, okay ... May has cleared, the pike has spawned, there is nothing to do:
            1. Boil the language ....
            1. evil partisan
              evil partisan 17 May 2016 11: 19
              0
              Quote: ALABAY45
              1. Boil the language ....

              2. Dry the crackers. yes
              1. ALABAY45
                ALABAY45 17 May 2016 11: 42
                +1
                3.Mix soy sauce with mayonnaise, grain mustard, cool the tongue, put on a clay plate, add fresh dill and onions and go out into the courtyard of the house ... of your own (!) House ... With a cedar tincture decanter and a silver glass of the 19th century in hands (so dark and with dents) ... with a monogram .. Maybe in a light pajamas ...
                4. We observe the envious neighbor-loser, last year’s bread, letting crackers ... And, grin! wink
                1. ARES623
                  ARES623 17 May 2016 11: 58
                  0
                  Quote: ALABAY45
                  4. We observe the envious neighbor-loser, last year’s bread, letting crackers ... And, grin!

                  Narcissism ... This is sin. smile
                  1. ALABAY45
                    ALABAY45 17 May 2016 12: 17
                    0
                    Nope! They still admire me: my wife, mother-in-law, two sons, two daughters-in-law, three grandchildren, a granddaughter, three aunts, two godfathers, two godfathers, a bunch of friends and drinking companions, two cousins, an uncle, a cousin uncle, a great-grandmother (in the wife's line), brother-in-law with his wife, three nephews, a niece with a groom and a dog, breed "Alabai", not taking into account "minor" relatives ... Oh, you say a sin ... And I think happiness and an objective assessment of the individual, i.e. e me! wink
                    1. evil partisan
                      evil partisan 17 May 2016 14: 22
                      0
                      Quote: ALABAY45
                      I still admire:

                      Look how our Prosecutor’s Office would not admire you ... sad helping her is not a sin. winked
                      But there are options repeat
                2. evil partisan
                  evil partisan 17 May 2016 14: 19
                  0
                  Quote: ALABAY45
                  we go out into the courtyard of the house ... Our (!) house.

                  Around which 2 KAKMAZs of asphalt liquefied by the people rolled up wink.
                  Return at least asphalt to the people, Herod! am
        6. weksha50
          weksha50 17 May 2016 15: 20
          0
          Quote: ALABAY45
          I hear about the separation of contact wires with special rods, the output of the train (carriage) supports, "mortar start", etc. If he drank vodka, I would have begun to doubt, but he does not drink - "torpedo dog" !!! Can you believe him ?!


          He said everything correctly ...

          But the rods for the removal of electric wires worked only on electrified roads ... And in general, two trains pulled locomotive, and sometimes a third was attached at the back ... This is because there were three starting modules, and if necessary, they could be dispersed over different deaf stop stations ...

          So the secrecy of the train was normal, except for the main unmasking sign - the third diesel locomotive ... But it was not always hooked ...

          Well, about the rods (and not only) google, about the BZHRK some information is ...

          PS I confirmed to you the stories of a friend, not from Google, but from personal experience ... I once mastered the first BZHRK ... just in Kostroma ...
    4. vovanpain
      vovanpain 17 May 2016 09: 43
      +10
      This launch is guaranteed to be completed - it will probably be the beginning of the fourth quarter of this year. And the state of affairs for today is such that it inspires absolute optimism that this will be done, ”

      That's good news, they charged us with optimism and good mood. good
    5. Engineer
      Engineer 17 May 2016 09: 45
      +1
      depends on what kind of rocket they’ll make, because the old cars were designed for the weight of a 100-ton rocket. For comparison, Yars weighs half.
      1. godofwar6699
        godofwar6699 17 May 2016 09: 52
        -7
        put rockets on a vacuum train good
        1. BARKAS
          BARKAS 17 May 2016 11: 10
          +1
          Quote: godofwar6699
          put rockets on a vacuum train

          But this is only possible to launch something into the Druzhba gas pipeline, if necessary.
    6. Sura
      Sura 17 May 2016 09: 57
      +1
      Oops! Those. already this year? Great! I did not think that they pile so quickly. Interesting: did the wagons from scratch or will the old ones be used too?
      They wrote:
      “Full-scale work on the complex will be deployed after decisions are made on the results of a throw test. The decision will be made early next year. "
      That is, you need to know exactly what the load on the launcher is at startup, based on these tests, and the installation itself will be designed.
    7. drunkram
      drunkram 17 May 2016 11: 37
      0
      The old one is gone, on the other hand, new cars are needed for new weapons, UVZ rivets such cars in batches
    8. vkl.47
      vkl.47 17 May 2016 11: 45
      0
      I can’t wait for the dispatcher to announce at the English station “blame passengers for the second platform the train Moscow ~ London arrives” and such crap opens and here in those days
    9. aleks26
      aleks26 17 May 2016 13: 22
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      Quote: cniza
      Interesting: did the wagons from scratch or will the old ones be used too?

      New ones that will not be any different from ordinary refrigerators. At least they boasted so much. (old wagons differed from the refrigerators by the number of axles)
  2. lis-ik
    lis-ik 17 May 2016 09: 38
    +4
    This is great news, but I honestly thought that the case had died out, and in fact it was even moving very fast!
  3. weksha50
    weksha50 17 May 2016 09: 38
    +3
    "scheduled for the 4th quarter of 2016" ...

    He quickly drives me to MIT ... So, the achievements from the 80s remained, and the experts too ...
    This cannot but rejoice ... The success of both MITU and all enterprises cooperating in the process ...
  4. Moore
    Moore 17 May 2016 09: 38
    +1
    If the launcher for testing is already ready - that's great.
    I hope, not like in "Mirny" in the 90s with the mine "Topol-M" they fumbled ...
  5. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 17 May 2016 09: 39
    +5
    It would be time for the "flywheel of production" railway. complex "Barguzin" to spin to the fullest. good Time is running out.
  6. Zomanus
    Zomanus 17 May 2016 09: 41
    +1
    Launchers will try.
    Because everything else is not so impressive in testing.
    Will the video be interesting?
  7. Engineer
    Engineer 17 May 2016 09: 43
    +3
    I carefully follow the development of this complex. This will be an exam on the solvency of Solomonov as a general designer. Let me remind you that the RT-23UTTX missile of the 15P961 Molodets complex carried 10 0,43Mt warheads with a range of missile defense systems. The thrown weight is 4050 kg at a distance of 10100 km. A difficult exam will be.
    1. Moore
      Moore 17 May 2016 09: 52
      +3
      Quote: Engineer
      Let me remind you that the RT-23UTTX missile of the 15P961 Molodets complex carried 10 0,43Mt warheads with a range of missile defense systems.

      I guess 10 BB will not be there anyway. If, as they write, there is a Yars missile, Yars-M - 3-4 BB. For the mass thrown is 1180-1250 kg (estimated)
      But there are six launchers in the train.
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    3. rudolff
      rudolff 17 May 2016 10: 37
      +2
      And what is the difficulty of the exam for Solomonov? "Well done" was developed from scratch, and "Barguzin"? Rocket Yars or Yars M, you don't even need to modify it. There is a reserve for the railway platform and the combat launch complex. Purely technical issues and funding.
  8. AID.S
    AID.S 17 May 2016 09: 43
    +4
    And when will the preliminary ticket offices start selling tickets? Will there be a reservation in Washington?
  9. iliya87
    iliya87 17 May 2016 10: 30
    0
    as if problems with freight trains later did not start abroad)) And then the Latvians will say that the Barguzins go to them, then the submarines are non-existent, then they will start uploading the goods, it’s like the Barguzins ride around Latvia)))
    1. Grandfather Eugene
      Grandfather Eugene 17 May 2016 15: 00
      0
      Quote: iliya87
      And then the Latvians will say that the Barguzins go to them ...

      The dog barks, the wind carries.
  10. Editor
    Editor 17 May 2016 10: 45
    0
    Quote: seti
    This complex is one of the most needed in our time. Is it a joke that several Yars missiles travel the country in a state of complete combat readiness to strike back at the enemy. Moreover, their composition is indistinguishable from ordinary goods and can travel at a speed of 1000 km per day .. Such a complex is certainly a joker in the deck, and maybe not one.


    only wheelsets for this car already have 8 pcs., instead of 4 pcs. at a simple refrigerator



    and a conventional refrigerator
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 17 May 2016 12: 47
      +1
      BZHRK not only with wheelsets has a problem.
      The main problem is that all movements on the railway are controlled by civilian automated control systems. And, having access to it, it is always possible to determine the position of the BZHRK (for this composition, by indirect signs, is clearly distinguished from ordinary ones). So you can forget about stealth.

      It's like letting the "primers" patrol exclusively along the Moscow Ring Road.
  11. cap
    cap 17 May 2016 10: 45
    +2
    “Full-scale work on the complex will be deployed after decisions are made based on the results of the drop test. The decision will be made early next year, "- added Solomonov."

    It remains only to wish good luck. I look forward to it.
    "Barguzin" is a beautiful name. This is the name of the sable. Beautiful.



    So, we’ll keep our enemies by the throat.
    1. cap
      cap 17 May 2016 10: 54
      +1
      So, we’ll keep our enemies by the throat.

      Putin
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 17 May 2016 11: 02
      +3
      Quote: cap
      "Barguzin" is a beautiful name. This is the name of the sable. Beautiful.

      Barguzin is the wind on Lake Baikal. hi
  12. Editor
    Editor 17 May 2016 10: 53
    +2
    Quote: ALABAY45
    An old friend of mine served in the Kostroma division of the Strategic Missile Forces ... I don't know if he's lying or not, although he doesn't seem to be 52 years old, but in the taiga hut, on short spring nights, I hear about the divorce of contact wires with special rods, the output of the train supports ( wagons), "mortar start", etc. If he drank vodka, I would have begun to doubt, but he does not drink - "torpedo dog" !!! am Can you believe him ?! recourse


    the most interesting thing is that in addition to the mortar (cold) launch, the rocket tilt system is also implemented after the jump, when the engines are turned on, so that the jet stream does not burn the car
  13. cedar
    cedar 17 May 2016 12: 11
    +3
    I would add the letters UT to the name of the complex. Barguzin-UT. In honor of the outstanding designers of this system, academics, Utkin brothers. Eternal and good memory to the defenders of our country, which undoubtedly include all the creators of Russian weapons systems!

    P.S. Barguzin is a river flowing from the slopes of the Barguzinsky ridge and flowing into Lake Baikal, into the Barguzinsky Bay. The wind blowing from this bay is called Barguzin. The territory adjacent to Lake Baikal, the river and the ridge is declared a reserve. The reserve is named after the Barguzinsky river. Sable, which is found in the reserve, is also called Barguzin!
    Come to Baikal!

  14. berezin1987
    berezin1987 17 May 2016 20: 59
    0
    Now they are zapping me. I believe that the development of a train with ICBMs is not needed. If the train will move along public roads, it will be displayed in the control system. This means that if the enemy knows what to look for, he can get data from the railway transport control system. An accident or terrorist attack on the railway is also possible. Mine ICBMs are sufficiently protected, have backup communication channels, and are protected by air defense / missile defense systems. Mobile PGRK can move along the primer, have a disguise and can be confused with tankers. The best defense is the development of SPRN (construction of over-the-horizon radars, satellites) and strategic nuclear forces control systems. Status-6 for the Navy is a much more interesting development, if its characteristics are close to those declared. Such a target under water is almost impossible to intercept due to the depth of travel and speed. Amers then will have to build another couple of hundred ships and aircraft PLO. And even this does not guarantee the successful interception of an underwater robot
  15. AID.S
    AID.S 17 May 2016 23: 00
    0
    Quote: berezin1987
    Now they are zapping me. I believe that the development of a train with ICBMs is not needed. If the train will move along public roads, it will be displayed in the control system. This means that if the enemy knows what to look for, he can get data from the railway transport control system.

    And if there are 10 false Barguzins per Barguzin, then how can they be tracked? Perhaps all of them can be tracked and destroyed, but will even the tracked Barguzin wait until the tomogavyk arrives?