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How we were beautifully lit on Euro-Ukrainian Tatar

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If that - yes, I'm on the results of "Eurovision". But not about the ones you thought about. I, frankly, absolutely do not care (if not to say more abruptly) who won there. And what. The fact that this is the "Eurovision" can only show that the one who pays is the one who orders the music, clearly as half a liter on Friday evening.


However, in my results, not that half a liter is enough, validol is needed in decent sizes.

A couple of questions to begin with.

Someone doubted that the one who should win would win? Someone doubted that the winner will be determined in Brussels and Washington? Someone doubted that the winner would not be a representative of Russia, even if he was a genius howling with plywood from birth?

If you answered yes to all three questions, do not read further. There is no meaning. One waste of time.

The fact that our "partners" use every opportunity to try once again, if not to bite, or at least pinch us, is understandable.

But most of all, the reaction in our camp caused the “deep concern”.

You can talk for a long time about how politically motivated the first place of this Jamila was with a song about the genocide of the Crimean Tatars and how much Jamila was generally like a singer. You can discuss the "mistakes" of the Europeans who put the wrong score on the wrong participant. Well, yes, they are there, in Europe, that Australia, that Ukraine ...

It is possible, but not necessary. This is already passed stage. I was more outraged by the public reaction to the fact of this political Euro-fair under the flag of a music competition.

But howl and poured by the so-called "Russian patriots" seriously. Not buckets, tanks. They began to remember everything and massively in relation to the Crimean Tatars. It is easier to list where the patriotic howl did not happen on this topic. Classically, with foaming at the mouth and other attributes. But we are reasonable people, so let's calmly argue.

Go to social networks, admire. The stories about how the Crimean Tatars collaborated with the Nazis and what crimes they did were not one. The impression that someone somewhere waved a conductor's baton, and the orchestra began to play. Howling in the sense. The Tatars are such, the Tatars are Syas, with them as people, and they served the Nazis, it was necessary to have everyone else in 1945 in the sea in a crowd, and so on.

And, like a resume, type deportation was generally a blessing for them. Undeserved. And today the same genes work.

But here the good question is: do we have someone's genes earned? And from what? Who was so offended by the fact that the “Eurovisions” candy from some Tom Neuvirta, Conchita Wurst, was not given to Lazarus?

And what does the Tatars have to do with it all?

It turns out that a huge part of people today in Russia is prone to some kind of economy of mental effort. Purely on the emotions come up. And if someone thought out in advance and shouted loudly - in general lepotas. There is no need to think, put likes and wheezing by a rabid dog, dropping foam on the keyboard. Let it means that these Tatars know that we are here, do not forget and do not forgive. As is, Pavlov's dogs.

Who benefits?

It was not invented by me, but in the 2014 year, Putin said that the interests of Russia were that the Crimean Tatars were satisfied and loyal citizens of the country, had good relations with other citizens and all lived together in good neighborliness and peace.

And then who benefits from this relationship as bad as possible? So that the Crimean Tatars have as many insults to Russia as a whole and its citizens in particular and by name? Probably those who find it convenient to use to destabilize the situation in the Crimea.

The list, by the way, is not very long. And has long been known.

Then forgive, for whom those who compare the Crimean Tatars of seventy years ago and modern shout today? Yes, and blames, or rather, accuses of collaborationism? With conclusions and appeals?

Speaking of collaboration, or, to put it more simply, betrayal.

Traitors were, are and will be in every nation. Everyone has their own, with their own motivation. And among the Tatars, and among the Russians, and among the Ukrainians. But each case must be treated with attention and considered personally. And to punish a traitor, and not the whole people. Because we can also show the same Lyushkov, Vlasov, Rezun, Belenko, Makarov-Ginzburg, and in general, for his history we have collected such a herbarium of freaks that no other people would have dreamed of.

Is any of us guilty of the atrocities of Vlasovites from the POA? It seems not. And there, I will note, there were most Russians. And is today's Camil Baibekov responsible for the acts of Dzhelal Abdureshidov in the distant 1942 year? If by analogy with the Vlasovites, then none.

A person can only be guilty as a result of his personal actions or inaction. To expose a person guilty only because of his belonging to an ethnic group ... You know, this is not fascism. This is frank idiocy plus reflexes developed by social networks.

Pay attention to how we, Russian, diligently slowly poisoned on the others. Ukrainians are all Bandera and traitors. The Germans were served. Tatars are also traitors, they also served the Germans. You know, so far you can go? And then, most interestingly, puzzled questions begin: why doesn’t anyone like us, Russians? And no one breaks into allies?

Yeah, you go allies today, tomorrow will be another question. Slovaks, Serbs, Bulgarians, Montenegrins have long ceased to be "bratushkami"? Actually, they have not ceased, but our attitude has already changed, and this is clearly seen from the comments. Your, dear readers, comments. You can prove to any Slav from abroad in two accounts that he is from the crowd of traitors. Watched more than once.

And everything seems to be so simple and understandable. Man is responsible for his actions. In front of people. Before the people. This is logical and even legal. But writing an entire nation as a traitor, because of his number were the same collaborators ... Yes, and also to call for repentance ...

Although, stop.

Familiar note. Somewhere it already was, and it was not once. Remind me, if I am mistaken, whom have we constantly been called upon to repent? Moreover, it is public?

We were called. Russian. Tatar Udmurtov. Avarians. Who called? Who blamed all mortal sins? It is clear that all these Yeltsin, Nemtsov, Kasparov are dolls. Puppets there ... away. In the dark.

And today, as practice shows, the action of driving in wedges is quite successful. And few of the growling patriotic patriots think about it. To think, as the same practice shows, is a bit stressful for modern brains.

And even worse, when they begin to cultivate such a hereditary hatred. When they drive into our minds that we are not neighbors, not friends, not brothers, but our very enemies, almost from the creation of the world.

Those Tatars who served the Germans are no longer in this world. And why today the wholesale wine is transferred to their great-grandchildren due to the fact that a single girl on behalf of Ukraine slept a song about innocently murdered ancestors, is not entirely clear to me personally. But it is very clear who is at hand.

It is foolish to lay collective guilt on a whole nation for the actions of its individual representatives. Historically proven. It is also foolish to present accounts and demand some kind of repentance, for everything that is being said today rests mainly in the earth. It is necessary to live on the basis of today's interests, and not to sacrifice to the past those interests, guided by which you can live peacefully and fruitfully for decades in the future.

And mutual historical claims should be left to those who are no longer capable of anything. The best example is our Baltic neighbors. Which quite often refer publicly to this topic. We, unlike them, understand who benefits the essence of the claims. And therefore in no case should not be like those who are twitching in time with the puppeteers.
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  1. bulvas
    bulvas 17 May 2016 10: 40
    +77
    The current EB is interesting to me first of all from politics
    Neither Lazarev, nor Kirkorov, nor many other Russian pops are interested.

    The most important thing is what is happening in Europe and the world about refereeing on EB

    For a day - more than 100 votes for revising the results!
    People from all over Europe, the USA, Australia ... Ukraine write. All are outraged and demand to deprive Ukraine of the 1st place.

    It’s impossible for us to even come up with the best result. A clear victory for Lazarev would not have produced such an effect.

    Thanks to this pop contest, Russia wins many times.

    As for music - I would send a group to the contest
    Leps + Hieromonk Photius + a guy from Chechnya Sharif with a Russian song, which are so wonderful at Grigory Leps

    1. The black
      The black 17 May 2016 10: 52
      +73
      Everything turned out in the best way for Russia. The audience preferred the Russian singer, professional judges revealed their political commitment, Russia avoided the threat of paying for the next year the European television broadcasting project to plant English in continental Europe. The fact that Ukraine was represented by the Crimean Armenian is generally wonderful. All the way! smile
      1. Ivan Slavyanin
        Ivan Slavyanin 17 May 2016 11: 16
        +42
        The plus article is deserved! All this is politics and nothing more!
        THE ONLY EUROPEAN WINNER WAS A SOVIET SOLDIER WITH HARMONY IN 1945 YEAR IN GERMANY!
        1. inkass_98
          inkass_98 17 May 2016 11: 26
          +44
          Quote: Ivan Slavyanin
          THE ONLY EUROPEAN WINNER WAS A SOVIET SOLDIER WITH HARMONY IN 1945 YEAR IN GERMANY!
          1. Ivan Slavyanin
            Ivan Slavyanin 17 May 2016 12: 32
            +1
            And here is the documentary evidence of my words!
        2. lelikas
          lelikas 17 May 2016 11: 43
          +21
          I didn’t put anything. Only a very distant person could hope for our victory, this is so, but at the expense of the "fraternal" peoples burning out of love for us - "a good elephant, a bad certificate" the nations love us, but the government has chosen a bad one. Here you can argue for a long time and it is useless.
          In short - no one will (and does not love) us, for past merits. But the current ones are not. What has the entire Russian-speaking population of the Baltic states done? nothing. What did the inhabitants of Navukraine (except Donbass) have nothing. Of course, it's easy to blame everything on uncle.
          We continue to measure everything with old patterns that have not existed for a long time, and everyone understands this, except for us, and with songs about brotherhood and good neighborliness, they have discounts, benefits and other nishtyaks from us. Not only did the USSR take over the debts, it was necessary to be honest, to throw everyone at all, and now, they continue to whine and mumble — who for what.
          We do not need to be loved - let them respect, perhaps be afraid - that's enough for us, and let the tales of the brothers, in whom we have been given the third place, let them leave us.
          I have nothing against all nations, even I love Turks, but I will never hope for reciprocal love.
          1. Rostov
            Rostov 17 May 2016 12: 32
            +3
            Quote: Roman Skomorokhov
            Actually, they didn’t stop, but our attitude has already changed, and this is clearly seen from the comments. Yours, dear readerscomments

            As one famous blogger says - Memory Pill. An article on VO two years ago "Women of Donbass are asking to be protected from arbitrariness in Taganrog", author YOU A Roman. What you stated in the article was not just not confirmed, but everything turned out exactly the opposite. How many angry comments are there about the leadership of the Dmitriadovsky camp? You wrote a refutation? Apologize to people?

            And after that teach us
            Quote: Roman Skomorokhov
            Pay attention to how we, the Russians, are carefully stalking the rest of us

            So who is poisoning something?
            1. Roman Skomorokhov
              17 May 2016 12: 41
              0
              Quote: Rostov
              The article you presented in the article was not something that was not confirmed, but everything turned out to be exactly the exact opposite. How many angry comments were there about the leadership of the camp “Dmitriadovsky”? Have you written a refutation? Apologize to people?


              You can urge. What I did.

              Okay, I bring to your attention, my dear, that on the contrary, the authorities failed to refute anything. And about the "meat convoys" everything turned out to be true, and about everything else.

              That is precisely why no one received any apologies, and no refutations from either me or the editorial board followed. Because babbling about "everything is fine with us" is, apparently, enough for you. But we didn’t have enough.

              Moreover, ALL with whom I have been in contact have removed someone to whom in the course of the day, if only they did not get through to me.

              So do not spoil your nervous system, shutting me up. It does not work anyway.
              1. Rostov
                Rostov 17 May 2016 13: 08
                +2
                Quote: Banshee
                So do not spoil your nervous system, shutting me up. It does not work anyway.

                And I do not spoil. Did you personally go there? And I went after the article. Burning with "righteous" anger. I’m a lawyer, I wanted to help, people in our laws don’t know where to complain, what to write. And there everything turned out to be as described by Vladimir aka on the forum VO "fregina1". That is, it is 100% different from your article.
                Quote: Banshee
                the authorities failed to refute

                Cool. Without harnessing the power, but what to refute? How can you refute what is not? From the evidence in that article you only have a "call from a friend" and that's it.
                1. go21zd45few
                  go21zd45few 19 May 2016 09: 49
                  +1
                  Rostovsky: It is useless to engage in polemics with magazines, since they are people without honor and conscience. Why should they go somewhere to check the facts and
                  write the truth, which may not go into circulation. But to write all sorts of crap, such as this little article, they are the masters.
          2. BecmepH
            BecmepH 17 May 2016 14: 38
            +3
            We do not need to be loved - let them respect, perhaps be afraid - that's enough for us, and let the tales of the brothers, in whom we have been given the third place, let them leave us.
            Support!
            Slovaks, Serbs, Bulgarians, Montenegrins have long ceased to be "brothers"?
            Named those peoples (with the exception of the Serbs), for which we were never brothers. So why should I call them brothers? In general, for RS, opuses periodically fly out, where the RUSSIAN person "falls". This is not correct ... and makes you think about R.S. himself.
      2. Wajra-3
        Wajra-3 17 May 2016 11: 18
        +17
        I absolutely support. The most favorable position for Russia regarding what happened. I especially like that you don’t have to spend huge amounts of money to look at Geyropa in the capital next year.
      3. opus
        opus 17 May 2016 12: 35
        +2
        Quote: Black
        Everything turned out in the best way for Russia. The audience preferred the Russian singer, professional judges revealed their political commitment,

        It will be even better if the results of Eurovision-2016 are canceled.
        Vote





        1. iwakura
          iwakura 17 May 2016 15: 31
          +2
          Yesterday I went to the vote on the second petition, and there were scored 30000 of the required 35000, and now up to 200000, how does this thing even work and does it make sense? It is unlikely that the politicized organizers will reconsider something.
          It can be safely stated that the new judging system is designed to manage the results, as viewers' voting is too unreliable, and so once - they cut off whoever is needed and pushed the other up.
          And here the nationality of this Susana is not important, I watched the performance, it came from the word "no way", I would vote for Austria at all, this time they played in contrast and put on a normal maiden who sang something very nicely in French, and after the performance she jumped funny. :)
    2. techie
      techie 17 May 2016 11: 01
      +10
      I agree that the current EB is a bare policy. And the song about the Crimean Tatars is not a song, but a political provocation. The songwriter Jamala herself confessed to prankers Lexus and Vovan (she thought she was frank with Poroshenko’s assistant laughing ) that this is not about 1944 year, but about current events. Pierced, in general. So really, is it worth being fooled by cheap (and not cheap) provocations?
    3. Corporal Valera
      Corporal Valera 17 May 2016 11: 04
      +26
      The article seems to be correct, but it seems to me that there are several questions.
      But to write down the whole nation as traitors, because among them were the same collaborators ...

      Modern Tatars are not traitors. And the fact that they were responsible for MASS collaboration is a fact. The percentage is very eloquent. Whether retribution was fair or not, it is not for us to judge. We did not pull the country out of the abyss. Times were harsh.
      Who was offended so much by the fact that the "Eurovision" candy from a certain Tom Neuwirth, or Conchita Wurst, was not given to Lazarev?

      Incorrect formulation of the question. The song itself was offended and that it was missed. But that was the goal. In my opinion, we should not have gone at all. Since you are breaking your own rules, we will wait until better times.
      Yeah, you will go to the allies today, what will be tomorrow - another question. Slovaks, Serbs, Bulgarians, Montenegrins have long ceased to be "brothers"? Actually, they didn't stop,

      And all this we observe daily in the news! Bulgarians and the southern stream, Montenegrins and NATO ... Everything turns out because of our comments.
      Otherwise, I agree. Article plus. We are waiting for the Ukrainians to announce a competition in Sevastopol.
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 17 May 2016 11: 28
        +13
        And about "we wonder why they don't like us Russians." I don't like many people either. And many do not like amers. Or maybe all Jews love? So I consider this remark unfair. As well as the fact that they are afraid to be our allies. Generally nonsense! Didn't we come to help other nations a little ?! Do states always have a frank, unselfish relationship with their allies? So the author, defending some, undeservedly threw mud at others. Well done.
    4. vovanpain
      vovanpain 17 May 2016 11: 04
      +22
      Quote: bulvas
      As for music - I would send a group to the contest
      Leps + Hieromonk Photius + a guy from Chechnya Sharif with a Russian song, which are so wonderful at Grigory Leps

      I suggest at the next contest, in fairness, to put out a song where it will be chanted, about the bicentennial raids of the Crimean Tatars, where they emptied, robbed, killed and stole slaves of Ukrainian Hetmanshchins to their Turkish overlords. For two sad centuries for ordinary Ukrainian peasants, I think there will be much more stories for Eurovision songs than deportation in one month during the time of Stalin’s "cannibal." (Click)
      1. 79807420129
        79807420129 17 May 2016 11: 16
        +20
        Quote: vovanpain
        I suggest at the next contest, in fairness, to put out a song where it will be chanted, about the bicentennial raids of the Crimean Tatars, where they emptied, robbed, killed and stole slaves of Ukrainian Hetmanshchins to their Turkish overlords. For two sad centuries for ordinary Ukrainian peasants, I think there will be much more stories for Eurovision songs than deportation in one month during the time of Stalin's “cannibal”.

        Let Yanukovych perform at Eurovision. fellow
        1. In search
          In search 17 May 2016 16: 51
          +5
          From the expanses of the Internet ...

          "When Poroshenko realized how much it would cost him to win Jamala, he spent half of Ukraine's budget on SMS voting for Lazarev.
          But this did not help him either, the "insidious" Putin spent more. ))) "
    5. Scoun
      Scoun 17 May 2016 11: 05
      +5
      Quote: bulvas
      It’s impossible for us to even come up with the best result. A clear victory for Lazarev would not have produced such an effect.

      Quote: bulvas
      Neither Lazarev, nor Kirkorov, nor many other Russian pops are interested.

      +++)) and also this ukrotatarka seems to have won laughing and all Ukraine won laughing ha ha ha ha !!! and now they are looking for borrowed money to host Eurovision-2017))) and they can’t bear it and leave it a pity ... but Russia really only earned a plus, because the petition very quickly spreads across all social networks like greased lightning) ) and shows the hypocrisy of the Western elites. )))
    6. Achilles
      Achilles 17 May 2016 11: 24
      +16
      But howl and poured by the so-called "Russian patriots" seriously. Not buckets, tanks. They began to remember everything and massively in relation to the Crimean Tatars. It is easier to list where the patriotic howl did not happen on this topic. Classically, with foaming at the mouth and other attributes. But we are reasonable people, so let's calmly argue.

      Go to social networks, admire. The stories about how the Crimean Tatars collaborated with the Nazis and what crimes they did were not one. The impression that someone somewhere waved a conductor's baton, and the orchestra began to play. Howling in the sense. The Tatars are such, the Tatars are Syas, with them as people, and they served the Nazis, it was necessary to have everyone else in 1945 in the sea in a crowd, and so on.


      I do not agree with the author, no matter who says anything, he had specific words in the words of this singer: “My world was taken from me. I didn’t have a Fatherland ”,“ When strangers come, they come to your house, they kill you all and say: “We are not guilty, not guilty,” the singer snapped, squeezing a tear from compassionate Europeans. These words said how badly we did, at that time with the Crimean Tatars, but they did not talk about the reasons for deportation and of course all Europeans immediately have a bad opinion about us, and if Europeans knew the reasons for deportation, there would be no such effect: “ They are killing you all ”, this is an outright lie, these are all the words that indignate ordinary Russians when the author writes:
      But howl and poured from the so-called "Russian patriots" is serious.

      Of course it caused when publicly pouring mud on us undeservedly, what else should be the reaction? Or did we just need to keep silent and eat all this dirt?
      Do not wait .....

      Those Tatars who served the Germans are no longer in this world. And why today the wholesale wine is transferred to their great-grandchildren due to the fact that a single girl on behalf of Ukraine slept a song about innocently murdered ancestors, is not entirely clear to me personally. But it is very clear who is at hand.

      And no one does not call to hate the Crimean Tatars, they call only to know the story.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 17 May 2016 11: 30
        +6
        I propose for the next Eurovision, from Russia to send an air alert warning siren.
    7. Stanss
      Stanss 17 May 2016 11: 27
      +4
      While the vote on who to send to the next contest is won by Cord)))
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 17 May 2016 11: 33
        +6
        Quote: StanSS While the vote on who to send to the next contest is won by Cord)))

        Not what a normal guy to do at such a bunch.
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 18 May 2016 14: 14
          +1
          Quote: avva2012
          Quote: StanSS While the vote on who to send to the next contest is won by Cord)))

          Not what a normal guy to do at such a bunch.

          Meanwhile, in the universe of Cord ... Let us give him a word ...
        2. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 18 May 2016 14: 16
          +2
          Harsh times, harsh decisions ... laughing
      2. Bath
        Bath 17 May 2016 18: 24
        +2
        it is necessary for the next EB just to send a competition to ,,, and all will be good
    8. Pereira
      Pereira 17 May 2016 11: 31
      +26
      My attitude to the Tatars after Eurovision has not changed. I know the story too well.
      The fact that the humanoid Lazarev remained the third does not bother me in the least. Before the competition, I did not hear this name at all. And especially not going to listen to his songs.

      I have never watched Eurovision and am not going to. Musical creativity there in one of the last places.

      In all this body-weight I am only interested in voting, as an indicator of the relationship between peoples, an illustration of the political and psychological predilections of the population of the countries.
      I am sure, if the same Cord were in place of Lazarev, the result of the audience would be similar.
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    10. Rezident007
      Rezident007 17 May 2016 11: 47
      +6
      those. do you offer Russians to be silent proudly with their heads held high, and they will all be poured with all sorts of dirt as well? And why not convene a conference with all the European and other members there, the media and not provide them with facts about the many genocides against our people at different times, as well as the betrayal of national minorities belonging to the state (at different times differently called) !!! Only such insignificant little souls are always aching, offended by the Russians .. and the dagger itself is always at the ready, henchmen, traitors !!!
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 17 May 2016 11: 55
        +22
        What is true is true: smile
    11. Oman 47
      Oman 47 17 May 2016 12: 02
      +2
      Send Shnur with his super-hit "Elections, elections, candidates - ... tri-dvaras!" wink
    12. Sharapov
      Sharapov 17 May 2016 13: 14
      +3
      I don’t give a damn about the results of these chants, and the article is not about that!
      An article about how Russia treats "allies" and why we have few of them, or rather only two - our army and the navy.
      An ally (state) is a country with which Russia jointly solves common topical problems. Even Belarus, I will not dare to rank among them, and Serbia, by the way, will be in NATO in 5 years - moreover, it will be decided not by the people, but by the green denies.
      And the Crimean Tatars are a nationality that must be "kept in mind" and not flirt with them.
    13. RUS96
      RUS96 17 May 2016 16: 52
      +2
      ..........................
  2. st1342
    st1342 17 May 2016 10: 41
    +5
    The show outside of politics did not work, no matter how the organizers would like.
    1. The black
      The black 17 May 2016 10: 51
      +9
      That’s what we don’t have to do is make some kind of appeal .. Spit and grind ... Russia hasn’t lost anything, even won - there will not be another tolerant coven in our country. hi
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 17 May 2016 11: 22
        +7
        Quote: Black That’s what we don’t have to do is make some kind of appeal .. Spit and grind ... Russia hasn’t lost anything, even won - there will not be another tolerant coven in our country.

        It’s time to treat such gatherings as a Kunstkamera. Well, there are those, and h ... with them. The problem is different, this is Euro-vision, we have on all channels, radio, etc. That's where the infection is. We would have better deal with ourselves. Reduce the percentage of delivery will end before it is too late.
      2. aleks26
        aleks26 17 May 2016 13: 10
        +2
        God forbid, they will review the results, and appoint Russia the winner!
    2. ferdiperdozzz
      ferdiperdozzz 17 May 2016 10: 51
      +2
      Would you like the organizers ?
  3. just exp
    just exp 17 May 2016 10: 46
    +14
    the article is so-so. there is truth in it and nonsense.
    the truth is that a bunch of ours rushed to recall the acts of the Tatars in the Second World War, but at the same time they offend the current Tatars, who are mostly for Russia. and they themselves reproach the parents of this jamala for the song. that is, a wedge was driven into us. while small, but with skillful manipulation we can be quarreled with the Tatars.
    but everything else is nonsense, and the fact that we are not loved and that Serbs are no longer our bros and so on.
    and that we don’t have to remember everything for a long time. But you have to forget everything.
    So you can’t forget. you cannot insult other nations, but you need to remember.
    1. Palladin
      Palladin 17 May 2016 11: 00
      +2
      And I liked the article. And by the way, the article does not say that no one loves us, the question is there for reflection, simply on the activities of the government of any of these countries, for some reason we evaluate the attitude of the whole people towards us.
      1. Palladin
        Palladin 17 May 2016 11: 26
        +2
        In that wassat request

        And the statements about the Tatars here were:
        http://topwar.ru/95281-politicheskaya-spekulyaciya-i-eskalaciya-rusofobii.html
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 17 May 2016 11: 32
          +1
          Quote: Palladin
          In that

          Do not bother, this pedo contest is not worth a discussion ....
          1. Palladin
            Palladin 17 May 2016 11: 36
            +13
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            Do not bother, this pedo contest is not worth a discussion ....


            I can not agree laughing
            1. atakan
              atakan 17 May 2016 11: 49
              +1

              Add a similar one.
              Fake?
            2. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 17 May 2016 11: 51
              +7
              Quote: Palladin
              I can not agree

              Sirozh Lazarev, you can safely place nearby lol
      2. 1976AG
        1976AG 17 May 2016 12: 26
        +2
        Quote: Palladin
        And I liked the article. And by the way, the article does not say that no one loves us, the question is there for reflection, simply on the activities of the government of any of these countries, for some reason we evaluate the attitude of the whole people towards us.


        The author first lists the negative points, and then inserts "and then the questions begin: why does no one love us?" Those. he kind of explained to us why they don't like us. The very construction of the text shows that he agrees with this. As for relations between peoples, I completely agree with you that what the ruling elite voices does not always reflect reality. And those who understand this much more than you think.
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    3. DMB_95
      DMB_95 17 May 2016 11: 14
      +10
      The article, in my opinion, is not more professional than Eurovision. Nobody en masse records all Tatars as traitors. And the Vlasovites who were taken alive were often shot or hanged by Russian soldiers, and not exiled to Siberia. Russians hate "their" traitors more than their enemies.
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    4. lukewarm
      lukewarm 17 May 2016 11: 24
      +3
      I completely agree. History must be known and remembered. History, not myths. About bros in particular. Of course, one cannot smear substance whole and publicly with substance, but one should not deny genetic memory, traditions (which are so strong among the southern peoples). And to wait for dirty tricks from the people is possible and necessary. So that it would not be suddenly. But do not provoke this dirty trick.
    5. Wajra-3
      Wajra-3 17 May 2016 11: 29
      +6
      Of course, it is not right now to hang all the dogs on the Tatars, but I would like to ask: why are "today's Tatars, who for the most part FOR Russia" are silent?
      Regarding the actions of extremists covering up with their flag, are they silent?
      Regarding the leaders-provocateurs hiding behind their name, are they silent?
      Or are they again waiting for who will win? Or who will give the money? Or bargain for yourself using a moment of perks?
      This is the most incomprehensible for everyone. And it provokes a reaction far from favorable for this people.
      1. KaPToC
        KaPToC 17 May 2016 13: 10
        +2
        What should the Tatars say? At the moment, they are not to blame for anything, Jamala spoke on behalf of Ukraine and is Ukrainian, not Crimean. It is unlikely that the Crimean Tatars have newspapers and steamboats in order to express their opinion to the whole world.
        And those whom you called their leaders are sitting in Istanbul and London and have nothing to do with the Crimean Tatars.
      2. just exp
        just exp 17 May 2016 15: 34
        +3
        and where did you get the idea that they are silent? if they did not come to you personally and expressed their opinion, this does not mean that they did not express it to others.
  4. arane
    arane 17 May 2016 10: 47
    +5
    Yes, in principle, I agree with the article. Why are we doing what is expected of us?
    The audience showed the true winner by their vote. It's nice.
    Ukraine won. Which is also good.
    They will say through the nodes that the damned mo rockers did so on purpose. Sami won the Eurovision Song Contest and shoved another event to Ukraine.
    Give the pennies!
    Does it mean to us? Expensive pleasure that is not necessary
  5. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 17 May 2016 10: 48
    +12
    "... called for repentance ..."
    The only thing I am ready to repent of is that I DIDN'T BEAT !!! Therefore, both the grandchildren are uncomfortable, and, for me, the old man, it is unpleasant ...! Well, okay, "not in the first" ...
  6. evil partisan
    evil partisan 17 May 2016 10: 48
    +3
    Here is an interesting video in the topic:
  7. Arktidianets
    Arktidianets 17 May 2016 10: 49
    +14
    I don’t understand the hype around this event, the rabble of freaks and an incomprehensible gender of individuals
  8. weksha50
    weksha50 17 May 2016 10: 50
    +18
    "It is insanely stupid to lay collective blame on an entire nation for the actions of its individual representatives"...

    However, it is insanely stupid to accuse us all of supposedly continuous negativity expressed in the address of the Crimean Tatars ...

    We are all different, and each has his own vision of this or that ...

    For a long time already I have been living according to the principle that my grandfather suggested to me in his time: "there are no bad peoples, there are bad and unworthy people among peoples" ...

    PS Something with their friends, comrades from the Tatars, with whom they were interwoven throughout life, never raised the question of the Tatar-Mongol yoke, or the capture of Kazan by Ivan the Terrible ... And the question of the deportation of the Crimean Tatars did not arise. ..

    The one who is fanning this question - what about the one on the other hand - these are provocateurs, priests of Gapona ...
  9. Abbra
    Abbra 17 May 2016 10: 51
    +9
    And what have the Tatars to do with it? Nekhai live and prosper. With all its colorful and instructive history. Eurovision is a common instrument for fooling the masses, where real music is 0,1%. A kind of a kind of pan-European stage, where puppeteers are slowly introducing gray and tertiary in music in general. Thickly kneading everything on politics: pure or tolerant. Either bearded aunt men, now screams about deportation, now ... Crap, in short.

    It's time for Russia to create its own "Rashvideo" no less popular than the Euro. I'm only afraid that the first ones who will immediately lower the bar will again be representatives of our, damn it (I swear inwardly), show business.
  10. Nonna
    Nonna 17 May 2016 10: 51
    +9
    From the fact that someone put on a couple of posts about the betrayal of the Crimean Tatars during the war, nothing terrible will happen. The current generation adopts history only in pictures. Every nation must remember its past - whether it is bad or good, and draw conclusions. The Russians have a proverb - Whoever remembers the old is out of the question, and whoever forgets is two !. So let them remember.
  11. Knowing
    Knowing 17 May 2016 10: 51
    +4
    So who spread us and on what request recourseI didn’t understand a bit ...
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  14. Observer2014
    Observer2014 17 May 2016 10: 59
    +15
    On the first day of Eurovision, I told my wife. Wait, in my opinion there will be a circus! She "well, it can't be!" After the announcement of the results, I am a "vangovatel" in house number 1 laughing
    You know, I like one topic. This is about the article.
    Not all Muslims are terrorists! But all terrorists are Muslims. In Crimea, before the year before last, not all Tatars were engaged in self-capture. Only the Tatars were engaged in the seizure of land.
    1. Abbra
      Abbra 17 May 2016 11: 19
      +4
      Great thought, by the way. I do not know a single Orthodox terrorist community. The most scary thing is when three people drank and stuffed their faces with a traffic police neighbor love
    2. just exp
      just exp 17 May 2016 15: 36
      +1
      But all terrorists are Muslims.

      and IRA long signed up for Muslims? and ETA, too, Muslims shut up?
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 17 May 2016 16: 29
        +1
        About IRA, one movie left with Brad Pete and Ford starring
  15. kotovckiy
    kotovckiy 17 May 2016 11: 00
    +2
    Well done, he wrote it right. You can not respond to this cheap provocation. Lazarev is the best and everyone understands this.
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 17 May 2016 11: 55
      +1
      Well done, he wrote it right. You can not respond to this cheap provocation. Lazarev is the best and everyone understands this. ,,
      and what’s right, did you personally react to this divorce? Well, you awarded, well, you didn’t award Lazarev (for me he’s zero without a wand) the question was that judging is politicized, I was personally interested in this question. So the attacks on Russia continue.
    2. atakan
      atakan 17 May 2016 12: 03
      +2
      Quote: kotovckiy
      Lazarev is the best and everyone understands this.

      And what, the best? Nice picture?
      For me it’s so ordinary. They all sing in English, and on the drum to this musical dregs.
      The rules of the competition are allowed to sing in their native language, and where are the Russians? Yes, they are not there. I remember the song of the Serb - Maria Sherifovich., And is not forgotten. And we had to send the cord there.
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 17 May 2016 12: 20
        +1
        Quote: atakan
        For me it’s so ordinary. They all sing in English, and on the drum for this musical dregs

        Uh-huh, I liked the Cypriots the most, Azerbaijan, even Poland, with their "Let's for life", surprisingly liked, and they were given the least votes in the "professionalAnal" jury.
    3. guzik007
      guzik007 17 May 2016 12: 06
      +1
      Well done, he wrote it right. You can not respond to this cheap provocation. Lazarev is the best and everyone understands this.
      ---------------------------------------
      Lazarev? What kind of fruit is this? I know the artist, of the people. Rest in peace. I’ll remember a couple more. Ah! is this the one who decided to sing in a European wash? So to blame. no one forced to sit with roosters under the broom. Zashherilsya in full. If you speak the language of the State Duma and Our All, you yourself know who.: =)
  16. Atigay
    Atigay 17 May 2016 11: 02
    +2
    Today I received this news: this is not a Tatar, this is a Tatar who changed sex. Abulkhair was called before the operation, his father was Crimean Tatar, his mother was Armenian. But I'm not talking about that. It is necessary to do a new competition among normal ones, to call INTERVISION.
  17. atamankko
    atamankko 17 May 2016 11: 04
    +1
    Everything good was politicized: sports, art, etc.,
    "exceptional" idiots.
  18. armata37
    armata37 17 May 2016 11: 04
    +6
    The Eurovision Song Contest is rotten long ago, it did not happen this year.
    Nobody divorced us. We nominated a candidate, he spoke, representing the country at a competition. At the same time, he took third place!
    It's time to forget about all these EURO ... We have our own interesting contests:
    - on the Zvezda channel, a song contest in which people from different parts of our Motherland perform.
    - There is a tank biathlon that is liked not only by the military and men, but, judging by the latest games, children, women and people aged. In addition, this competition is international.
    - there are Aviadarts.
    ...

    Eurovision? No, I have not heard ...
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 18 May 2016 16: 22
      0
      Quote: armata37
      Tank biathlon, which is liked not only by the military and men, but, judging by the latest games, children, women and people aged. In addition, this competition is international

      Yesterday I didn’t have time to answer - but these ha ..., uh, our partners have already held the "Strong Europe Tank Challenge".
      By the way, all the first places were taken by the Leopards.
  19. Stavros
    Stavros 17 May 2016 11: 04
    +5
    The cleanest statement. Russia and Ukraine were brought to an end, and the kaklov victory with a song about the Tatars. So you have to be far away from the Europedics, you don’t need this Eurovision
  20. ava09
    ava09 17 May 2016 11: 06
    +4
    Euro vision - Evil. And this particular case is the next profaned battle for the fold man in the street. Why participate in satanic Sabbaths, knowing in advance that the main Ghoul will make you a loser? Why AT ALL participate in SHABASHA?
  21. iury.vorgul
    iury.vorgul 17 May 2016 11: 10
    +16
    I always read the articles of Roman aka Banshee with pleasure and put pluses, today I minus for the first time. Let me explain why. The question is not about "Geyrovision", I do not watch either pop music in general, or "Geyrovision" in particular. Again, I have a negative attitude towards Lazarev for his position on Crimea (maybe he changed it, I don't know anything about it). And I will not enter into a dispute about the Crimean Tatars, most likely JV Stalin had motives to act as he did and we do not know these motives. It is clear that the majority of Crimean Tatars are not responsible either for the traitors who fought for the Nazis during the Second World War, and for the current fascists, such as Dzhamilyov. This is not the question. For some reason, we (I mean the majority of the inhabitants of Russia) are trying to prove something to Geyrope and the FSA all the time. Yes, you don't need to prove anything to them. Our athletes are not allowed to the Olympics - we are organizing the Goodwill Games. They gave the Nobel Prize to Russophobic Alexievich - let her choke, I will read Polyakov and Vershinin, and others will also find books to their liking. Their "Geyrovision" would be against us, I like "Lyuba" more, I love listening to "Farewell of a Slav" in different performances, and there is also a wonderful composer Georgy Sviridov. Less need to get hung up on various "international" awards, contests and competitions, and put things in order. And then they themselves will come running and give everything themselves.
  22. wandlitz
    wandlitz 17 May 2016 11: 11
    +1
    And I’m satisfied with the result. Lazarev is appreciated, and there is no reason for Russia to spend money in 2017 on holding this, whether it be a music contest.
  23. Naum
    Naum 17 May 2016 11: 12
    +2
    Article: 100+! The Jew-Masonic "World Government" skillfully drives wedges of enmity between nations, sows the seeds of future conflicts and current anger. Yes, not everyone in Ukraine is "maydanuty", but we blame everyone ... And we lose friends, we make enemies. What our REAL ENEMIES need. Russia interferes with their world domination and they are doing EVERYTHING to destroy it. Don't help these bastards!
  24. Sasha_Sar
    Sasha_Sar 17 May 2016 11: 13
    +4
    I would be very happy if Russia boycotts Eurovision next year. And he will do it quietly as a matter of course. Journalists really won't let you do this. For a "green piece of paper" their own mother will be sold. And here is such a reason to "pray" this topic.
  25. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 17 May 2016 11: 14
    +3
    This is correct - "Euro vision", that is, the way they "see" in Europe, but in Europe, now, Russia is not "seen" at all, or they try not to "see" (since, nevertheless, it constantly reminds of itself) or "see" in only one negative "light."
  26. lukewarm
    lukewarm 17 May 2016 11: 16
    +7
    An article about DISPOSED, as I understood it, that during the discussion of the result of Euro-competition, they completely forgot about the topic and completely went to the discussion of the Crimean Tatars. By hand, not by hand. I do not know. I did not follow. I did not participate. On what resources did the ram ramp up ... Our fate there is somewhat schizophrenic. Liberal pop-musicians are climbing in there, who are sobsno related to Russia as a place of residence and earning money. Lazarev invited here, if he won, gays from around the world. Do we need it? I agree with the commentators, who say that such a loss is only to our advantage. I want to note that unfortunately did not sound in the article. This is what PATRIOTICALLY TURNED CITIZENS need to stop associating the Homeland and the victories of obscure pop musicians in equally dubious contests. Let's arrange a contest for the best world whore and we will break the throats about her victory and loss. Therefore, I personally do not care. Lazarev lost there, but he is a bugger, not Russia. Russia is Alexander Prokhorenko, he won in his battle, although he died. I did not hear this in the article. It's a pity.
  27. megadeth
    megadeth 17 May 2016 11: 16
    +2
    Australia ... Europe!
  28. Antropos
    Antropos 17 May 2016 11: 22
    +2
    For me in this situation, two positive points.
    1. The European people poked their nose into their pseudo-democracy for the second time in a couple of months. In April in Holland and here again. Hope is small, but suddenly start to think? And judging by the petition, it hurt someone.
    2. A melodious groan (a little like a song), perhaps, will prompt someone to search for the truth about those events. A rupture of the brain is likely, which is also useful and leads to thoughtfulness.
    The competition itself - do not care. I looked on the Internet songs of the winners of different years - I have not met a single one for my library.
  29. CORNET
    CORNET 17 May 2016 11: 24
    +4
    The article again urges Russians to shut up and repent ... Or, as we usually do: How not to offend anyone! Yes, I do not care, I personally already "kept silent" back in the days of the USSR When we were taught internationalism, when all people are brothers (the union of fraternal peoples, etc.)
    And they will feel a little slack and the massacre and humiliation begins ... (in the 44th, 90s)!
    By this Eurovision Russia was humiliated and spat in the face once again and we are called in this article to wipe ourselves and shut up ...
    I’m a little on emotions, I’m just tired of looking around already, so as not to offend anyone and hurt ... hi
  30. Londa
    Londa 17 May 2016 11: 25
    +1
    I am against Eurovision in Russia, there is nothing to spend money on this nonsense. So everything is ok. The Ukrainian won, well, high with her. Well, the fact that the people of Europe was indignant is 100 thousand. these are just fans of Lazarev, and not the whole nation.
  31. cap
    cap 17 May 2016 11: 25
    +3
    And even worse, when they begin to cultivate such a hereditary hatred. When they drive into our minds that we are not neighbors, not friends, not brothers, but our very enemies, almost from the creation of the world.

    Those Tatars who served the Germans are no longer in this world. And why today the wholesale wine is transferred to their great-grandchildren due to the fact that a single girl on behalf of Ukraine slept a song about innocently murdered ancestors, is not entirely clear to me personally. But it is very clear who is at hand.


    Well written with the author I agree 100%.
    I will add that "screams about" from the same paid trough.
    Any sane person understands. All this music is played and conducted, as well as paid. Well, I won’t write myself guessed by whom.
  32. -СтрР° РЅРЅРёРє-
    +8
    It was not invented by me, but in the 2014 year, Putin said that the interests of Russia were that the Crimean Tatars were satisfied and loyal citizens of the country, had good relations with other citizens and all lived together in good neighborliness and peace.

    I wonder who and in what year will say: "Russia's interests are to make Russians happy"?
    And when representatives of nationalities living in Russia will proudly say: I am Russian - Crimean Tatar, etc. Exactly - Am I Russian and my Nationality? His Nationality - also with pride and with a capital letter! (One of the few things that can and should be borrowed from the Americans - first of all, I am American!) hi
  33. Trapperxnumx
    Trapperxnumx 17 May 2016 11: 33
    0
    Thank you Roman !!!
    I completely agree with the article! Desperately plus !!!
  34. MARGADON
    MARGADON 17 May 2016 11: 37
    +1
    Good article. I’m not very like a fan of Lazarev and even more so Kirkorov, but the guy plowed like hell and a whole bunch of people with him. I think it’s for the best that he lost. You just imagine if Lazarev won and EV passes in Moscow, Whatever horror story of the singer / song Ukraine brought to us, and Europe again brought Wurst-horror to Conchita.
  35. Cananecat
    Cananecat 17 May 2016 11: 39
    +3
    I am glad that Ukraine won. I am glad that on the second day Poroshenko went to the EU with outstretched hands. I am glad that we did not take first place, because last year we had the Ollimpiad, this year the World Hockey Championship, I am glad that next year Eurovision will not hit my country's budget. For the rest, I agree with Roman.
    1. MARGADON
      MARGADON 17 May 2016 11: 57
      +2
      You forgot another 2018 World Cup.
  36. Arkan
    Arkan 17 May 2016 11: 39
    +1
    "Eurobalagan" is a flawed, not musical performance. It’s purple to me who was jumping from Filka, from ukrainians, because only stench will come from this cesspool. Phobias on a national basis have been and will be, but it is necessary to clearly distinguish between traitors and all other People.
  37. ru0234
    ru0234 17 May 2016 11: 41
    0
    Are there many people in a tolerant Europe? ... right - "full of holes and rear wheel drive".
    And what do we want from them now? "Leaky" will choose "leaky", and we all want to please. )))
  38. mvnmln
    mvnmln 17 May 2016 11: 41
    0
    Considering that Ukraine has already started looking for funds for Eurovision-2017, the organizers will revise the results and award the victory to Australia. Well, and then - in the text ...
  39. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 17 May 2016 11: 44
    +2
    Of course, the author of the article is right that today's Tatars should not be responsible for the sins of their recent ancestors. BUT, how some of their representatives behaved in the decisive days of February 2014, you need to consider. They were very controllable, and very tough against the supporters of Russia. We, of course, live with them, but the presence of such "hot guys" probably needs to be taken into account, and keep them under control and not please them with concessions and exceptions. Let's hope that these "eagles" answered for their actions.
  40. shurik
    shurik 17 May 2016 11: 45
    +2
    To be honest, I absolutely do not care (if not to say abruptly) who won there.

    Me too!!!!
  41. mamont5
    mamont5 17 May 2016 11: 48
    +10
    Quote: bulvas
    The current EB is interesting to me first of all from politics
    Neither Lazarev, nor Kirkorov, nor many other Russian pops are interested.

    Here is what Yuri Loza said about Eurovision:
    “The most important result is that after manipulations with an incomprehensible 'professional jury' and politicized voting, Russia has a reason to make claims against the organizers and demand to return to the original postulates formulated in 1956, when this competition was approved.
    It said that his main idea was to show the diversity of Europe, to give every country the opportunity to acquaint their mainland neighbors with their song culture and to become a little closer and more understandable to other residents of the Old World.
    Everyone should have sung in their native language, and in the songs themselves there should not have been a hint of politics so as not to inadvertently affect anyone's feelings. All should be equal initially. Nobody was given any privileges, and the simple tribesmen of the participants of the song show chose the winner by voting.
    When in the seventies the Swedes turned to the organizers with a request to sing a song in English, they motivated their appeal by the fact that no one understands their language besides them.
    Today these problems are easily removed by technology - in the background you can write any texts with letters of arbitrary size directly in synchronized performances (this has been done for a long time in opera houses around the world, only running line is used there).

    And of course, the winning country must host a home language show in order to introduce Europe to its culture in all its diversity.

    If our demands are not satisfied, we need to politely leave and stop paying for the popularization of this British brawl.
    And the results ... Everything is as always:
    a) Europe received a new “hit” from the winner, which no one would listen or rehash;
    b) Ukraine received a winner, which once again nobody will let in the European stars;
    c) we got another idiotic many-hour hysteria on the Russia 1 channel;
    d) our native Russian culture has not received anything.
    And I couldn't get anything even in the case of a so-called victory. "
    http://vz.ru/opinions/2016/5/16/810729.html
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 17 May 2016 11: 55
      +1
      Quote: mamont5 his main idea is to show the diversity of Europe, to give every country the opportunity to acquaint their mainland neighbors with their song culture and become a little closer and more understandable to other residents of the Old World.

      Yes, such an idea was corrupted. Thank you, I didn’t know the Eurovision story.
    2. Freeman
      Freeman 17 May 2016 12: 51
      0
      mamont5 RU Today, 11:48 AM

      Very sensible thoughts from Y. Loza. Directly voiced my thoughts. I support all +100500!
      The competition itself is not interesting, since slipped from the UG (with very rare exceptions) into the "politicized UG".

      And I put "+" in the article, because the main idea is not an analysis of the "show", but a condemnation of the "politicized fuss" around it.

      I was more outraged by the public reaction to the fact of this political Eurofars under the flag of a music contest.
      The impression that someone waved the conductor’s stick somewhere and the orchestra began to play.
      Pay attention to how we, the Russians, are carefully stalking the rest of us.
      And today, as practice shows, actions to drive in wedges are carried out quite successfully. And few of our grief-patriots growling think about it.
      And therefore, in no case should you become like those who twitch to the beat of the puppeteers.
  42. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 17 May 2016 11: 51
    0
    Quote: st1342
    The show outside of politics did not work, no matter how the organizers would like.

    It turned out, everything turned out exactly as the organizers wanted to change their principles. Why vote across Europe if there is a politically oriented jury? They expected that the listeners would give priority to the Ukrainian, and if she sang a song of a different content ??? The organizers, to put it mildly, passed the contest on all counts. Killer did his job - EV political corpse!
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  45. sunzhenets
    sunzhenets 17 May 2016 12: 03
    +3
    Someone doubted that the one who should win would win? Someone doubted that the winner will be determined in Brussels and Washington? Someone doubted that the winner would not be a representative of Russia, even if he was a genius howling with plywood from birth?

    The answers are obvious to everyone except those officials who sent the Russian representative to Eurovision.
    Why did you participate in this homo show? To hominoid Lazarev went to Stockholm?
    And in the Crimean Tatars separately.
    The stories about how the Crimean Tatars collaborated with the Nazis and what kind of atrocities were committed are not a few.

    Eviction of Krymchaks, Chechens, etc. was an act of the highest humanism. Because if in wartime criminal proceedings were instituted, investigated and considered against all representatives of these peoples, then there would be very few sexually mature males among these peoples, because they did not conditionally give a year for war crimes.
    In addition, a division is needed to investigate and operationally support so many cases of investigators and operas. And where was she to be taken?
    Now, if they had acted with the evicted peoples under the criminal law in force at the time the crimes were committed, there would be now no cries about their grievances, or peoples.
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 17 May 2016 13: 06
      -1
      Sunzhen RU Today, 12:03
      Why did you participate in this homo show? To hominoid Lazarev went to Stockholm?

      And you propose again to fence ourselves off from everyone with an "iron curtain" so that they only know about Russia that it is "Vodka, Matryoshka, Balalaika and scary Russians"? So the" west "just needs this.
      PS And the fact that Lazarev is another "show business" we do not yet.
  46. Stiletto
    Stiletto 17 May 2016 12: 17
    +4
    After the victory by the bearded Rapunzel, the very fact of participation in such a competition as Eurovision, not to mention the victory in it, is a dubious undertaking for any self-respecting performer (singers by mouth, of course, do not belong to them).
  47. demo
    demo 17 May 2016 12: 23
    +10
    I read quite often articles signed by Roman Skomorokhov.
    And always the fertility and efficiency of this author amazes me.
    And always seems to be in the subject.
    The truth happens and it will drift, and even in the wrong direction.
    The author correctly says that it’s not worth projecting the old sins of the people for our time.
    The author believes that the Crimean Tatars, who went in an en route to where Makar did not drive calves to graze, after 70 years have taken and forgotten everything?
    And the old people, children, mothers, sisters, etc., who died on the way, bent at work there is no reason to recall the cruelty shown to them, to the whole people?
    The property of small nations is to exaggerate the injustice shown to them to the universal extent.
    I know firsthand this nation.
    And I know the price of gratitude to this nation.
    In ancient years, the Crimean Tatars were forbidden to settle not only in the Crimea, but also in the bordering regions and territories.
    The rule was as follows.
    For employment, registration is required.
    A residence permit was obtained upon presentation of a certificate of employment.
    And that’s all. Arrived.
    All leaders were informed that the leadership of the Soviet state did not want the Tatars to return home.
    Father, at the request of the Tatar from Uzbekistan, in the transfer order, by agreement between the leaders, he hired the Tatar.
    And already with a certificate from the place of work, he was able to register in the Krasnodar Territory.
    Later, thanks to this, he returned to the Crimea and brought his entire brood home.
    Father was summoned to the Krykom party and slapped into a severe reprimand with entry on the Record Card.
    And they could have driven them out of the party and asked for work.
    When, after many years, the father turned to the one whom he helped asking for help to his son, he answered that he was afraid that his countrymen would not understand him.
    By that time he was the head of the Mejlis.
    Those. one of the most respected people of Crimea.
    So Roman Skomorokhov is probably either young in body and soul, and does not have life experience, or belongs to the category of peacekeepers.
    But if the first, I hope, will pass. That second is not treated.

    And now from private to general.
    I am very annoyed by the idea that in a state called the Russian Federation, the root of which is the Russian nation, the Russian people, the Russian people are imposed on me and forced to love everyone, initially, in spite of all their previous “merits”.
    I can love my neighbor.
    But here the Tatar, or the Chechen will not be my neighbor.
    We have a different way of life.
    Different attitude to their, albeit general, history.
    Different requirements for behavior.
    And a thousand other things, different.
    With understanding and tolerance, I can relate to the expression of national self-expression, as long as it does not conflict, or affects my, Russian self-expression and self-awareness.

    Probably, many will not share my personal opinion expressed.
    Yes, this is not necessary.
    It will take more than a dozen years when we can stop distrusting and apprehensive of the inhabitants of our "multinational home."
    And God forbid that this time comes, the sooner the better.
    In the meantime - like this.
  48. 96423lom
    96423lom 17 May 2016 12: 29
    0
    In discussions of deportation issues, it is often omitted how many representatives of other peoples were deported, it was just easier with small peoples. The state defended itself by whatever means it considered acceptable. Who wants to object, let him think about some numbers. According to official data, for the period from 1921 to 1954, a little more than 3 million 200 thousand were repressed, let's adjust for the impartiality of the "bloody executioners" and multiply by two - 6 million 400 thousand. During Yeltsin's rule, the population of Russia decreased by 8 million 6 million in 33 years and 8 in 8 years, after all, they also "tried" for the good of the country.
    And, as far as Eurovision, they condemned, nothing new.
  49. Forever so
    Forever so 17 May 2016 12: 31
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    Come on, Roman)) There were interesting sorbations)) Someone in the geyrops again shot himself in the leg, and again the old linen was shaken out. But you need to shake out the laundry so that anaerobic rotten bacteria would not start. After all, if the squirrel of all Sinyavsky, Alekseevs and other dissident nests were shaking publicly, then there would be no hunchback with a drunk. So firstly, geyrovideniya did not give the result that the organizers expected. Second, we do not have to meet this peredastnuyu in Russia. Third, Judas, for example, are still remembered and cursed, why should we forget about the Crimean Tatars ??. let them know, we remember. And we remember Lenin, and we remember the Tsar and Stalin massively remember, and our grandfathers who died, why should the police battalions of Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians, Ukrainians, Crimean Tatars forget? Everything is fine, the country was once again shaken, and this is not bad.
  50. mr.fafes
    mr.fafes 17 May 2016 12: 33
    0
    User from Armenia Arthur Hovhannisyan posted a petition on Change.org requesting that these results be reviewed

    Spend one minute of your time.
    Petition for the revision of the results of Eurovision 2016
    https://www.change.org/p/european-broadcasting-union-make-eurovision-song-contes

    t-revise-the-results-of-the-song-contest-2016? recruiter = 64899997 & utm_source = peti

    tions_share & utm_medium = copylink

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