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Arctic "shell" will be shown next year at the parade of Victory

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The Arctic modification of the Pantsir ZRPK will be presented at 2017 g at the Victory Parade in Moscow, three vehicles are currently being tested beyond the Arctic Circle, TASS a message from the deputy director of the Instrument Design Bureau Yuri Savenkov.




“Three combat vehicles have been serving for three years, three winterings. Of course, life does not stand still, and we saw that in the Arctic we need another chassis, and soon you will see it at the parade ",
Savenkov said.

“Our team spends the winter with them, we also serve there with them,” he added.

Earlier it was reported that the PBC is working on a tracked version of the "Shell" for the Arctic.

“To date, the standard chassis for this complex is the KAMAZ 6560 with the wheel formula 8х8. In addition, the Arctic version of the complex allows you to work at temperatures up to minus 50 ° C, ”said the deputy director.

He also recalled that "at the end of this year, tests will begin on board the ship of the naval version of the complex, the Pantsir-M." According to Savenkov, "The Russian Navy has already allocated a ship for testing."
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  1. Michael67
    Michael67 16 May 2016 16: 23
    +14
    Just handsome.
    Can you tell me where else in the world there are such gourmet complexes?
    Yes, nowhere. I am proud of our engineers.
    The main thing is that bureaucrats do not interfere with their work.
    1. tiredwithall
      tiredwithall 16 May 2016 16: 26
      +2
      How is the northern version different from the usual? Outwardly not noticeable.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 16 May 2016 16: 32
        +3
        Quote: tiredwithall
        How is the northern version different from the usual? Outwardly not noticeable.

        Tracked undercarriage. smile

        The usual "Carapace" has a wheeled chassis. However, this is understandable - the car was created for the air defense of a country where there are no tracked vehicles (the goose is the prerogative of the army air defense). And the complex was supposed to be used "from the spot" - to cover the positions of the air defense missile system DD.
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        2. RUSS
          RUSS 16 May 2016 16: 42
          +2
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Quote: tiredwithallWhat is the northern option different from the usual? Outwardly not noticeable. Tracked chassis.

          and camouflage colors.
        3. lelikas
          lelikas 16 May 2016 18: 01
          0
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Tracked undercarriage.

          The usual "Carapace" has a wheeled chassis. However, this is understandable - the car was created for the air defense of a country where there are no tracked vehicles (the goose is the prerogative of the army air defense). And the complex was supposed to be used "from the spot" - to cover the positions of the air defense missile system DD.

          So he was on it, put it on a wheeled sweat.
      2. sodick
        sodick 16 May 2016 16: 48
        -12%
        they will put the condo, and in the southern regions they will send only with a stove (like the t-90 to Syria)
        1. BEECH 1972
          BEECH 1972 18 May 2016 16: 26
          0
          Quote: sodick
          \\\ they will deliver the condo, and they will send it to the southern regions only with a stove (like the t-90 to Syria
          /// Do you think the stove is not needed in Syria and is it always and everywhere warm? Syria, like many hot regions, is a country of contrasts, during the day your brains can melt from the heat, and at night the fecal masses freeze right in your gut. In mountainous areas, at night and especially in winter, you can easily freeze to death. So if you weren’t a fool, you would know nothing, you wouldn’t know what.
      3. novobranets
        novobranets 16 May 2016 16: 53
        +2
        Quote: tiredwithall
        How is the northern version different from the usual?

        In addition to the caterpillar chassis, it would be logical to assume some additional thermal insulation, more powerful heaters of the cockpit and the instrument compartment (electronics also operate in their temperature range). Prestarting engine heating.
        1. WUA 518
          WUA 518 16 May 2016 17: 29
          +9
          Quote: novobranets
          In addition to the caterpillar chassis, it would be logical to assume some additional thermal insulation, more powerful heaters of the cockpit and the instrument compartment (electronics also operate in their temperature range). Prestarting engine heating.
          The Tula Instrument Design Bureau (KBP) is considering the possibility of creating a tracked version of the Pantsir anti-aircraft missile and gun complex (ZRPK) for use in the Arctic. This was reported to TASS at the LAAD-2015 arms exhibition by a representative of the High-Precision Complexes holding, which includes the KBP. "The mobility of wheeled vehicles in snowy conditions is significantly limited. The issue of creating" Pantsir "on a special tracked chassis for operation in polar latitudes and the subsequent conduct of a number of experiments is being considered," the specialist informed, noting that the integration of the combat module and the radar "Pantsir" on the tracked chassis GM-352M1E produced by the Minsk Tractor Plant (MTZ) was previously carried out for the United Arab Emirates (UAE). The representative of the holding also said that the KBP is currently working to improve the reliability of the Pantsir operation in harsh temperature conditions. "The worst thing in this case is icing," he said. "Work is underway to improve the reliability of the chassis and improve the frost resistance of various oils and working fluids." At the moment, three serial anti-aircraft missile cannon systems (ZRPK) "Pantsir" on a wheeled chassis are already on alert in Arctic conditions. "Pantsir" successfully serves for the protection of the northern borders of Russia, - said the specialist. - Three combat vehicles on a wheeled chassis have been at the Temp airfield (Kotelny Island) since 2014. "
        2. Alex777
          Alex777 16 May 2016 22: 31
          0
          Quote: novobranets
          Quote: tiredwithall
          How is the northern version different from the usual?

          In addition to the caterpillar chassis, it would be logical to assume some additional thermal insulation, more powerful heaters of the cockpit and the instrument compartment (electronics also operate in their temperature range). Prestarting engine heating.


          Since the main purpose of Pantsir in the North is to bring down herds of "stupid stools" (CD), then the Pantsir-SM variant is possible there, which has 24 missiles on its vehicle and no cannons. And the guns will freeze there. wink
        3. BEECH 1972
          BEECH 1972 18 May 2016 16: 32
          0
          Quote: novobranets
          \\\ In addition to the tracked chassis, it would be logical to assume some additional thermal insulation, more powerful * cockpit heaters *
          /// I think you misunderstood. Kok what is that? Where excuse me is there such a strange place? hi
      4. opus
        opus 16 May 2016 23: 28
        +5
        Quote: tiredwithall
        How is the northern version different from the usual? Outwardly not noticeable.

        Outside and can not be distinguished
        - steel of "northern execution" (increased strength, improved weldability with a guarantee of resistance to layered ruptures of the E40SW type)
        -all rubber and plastic "northern execution"
        - an autonomous heater, another (northern) thermostat, a smaller radiator, a filter separator with heating.
        - thermal insulation of cabins ("arktik-0" type)
        -oils, greases, coolant

        Quote: Alexey RA
        Tracked chassis


        This is not true

        1. Development of the promising Pantsir complex for the Air Defense Forces was assigned by the KBP in 1990.

        2.- GM352M1Е(Minsk highway)

        -Lightweight version of the "Pantsir" only with an optical-electronic guidance module on the BMP-3 chassis

        -



        "North" or "South"
        chassis (tracks, wheel) is not so important.
        The Russian Ministry of Defense has completed testing of new equipment in the Arctic: KamAZ-43502 Patrol, Trekol-39294, Trekol-39295 with a loading platform, KamAZ-53501KHL, Ural-63706 “Tornado-U” with an armored cab, Ural-nekst with 6 wheel formula × 6, Ural-4320-3 HL, Ural-motovoz M ...
        1. opus
          opus 16 May 2016 23: 31
          +1
          Quote: Alexey RA
          the machine was created for the air defense of a country where there is no tracked equipment (g

          1. Seriously?
          The Shanine short-range anti-aircraft missile system was developed by the French company Thomson-CSF under a contract with Saudi Arabia on the basis of the widespread Crotale complex.





          SAM "Shahine":
          Firing Range, m: maximum - 11800, minimum - 500;
          Interception height, m: maximum - 3000, minimum - 50;
          Maximum missile flight speed, M: 2,8;
          Reaction time, s: 6;
          The maximum speed of the hit targets, m / s: 410;
          Starting weight, kg: 105;
          SAM length, mm: 3120;
          Case diameter SAM, mm: 156;
          Wingspan, mm: 590;
          Maximum flight speed of missiles, m / s: 850;
          Warhead weight, kg: 15

          2. This is the MAN-SX45 that they ordered, they received
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 17 May 2016 10: 45
            0
            Quote: opus
            1. Seriously?

            What domestic complex of air defense forces of the country (VKS-ovsky, not land forces) has a tracked chassis?
            1. opus
              opus 17 May 2016 13: 02
              +1
              Quote: Alexey RA
              What is the domestic complex of air defense forces of the country (VKS-ovsky, not ground forces)

              1.I phrase:

              Quote: Alexey RA
              However, this is understandable - the machine was created for the air defense of a country where there is no tracked equipment (goose is the prerogative of the army air defense)


              understood how about the Sun KSA (Arabs)!
              2. Well, if necessary:
              "Buk-M2 (E)" .... true caterpillar current ROM 9A316
        2. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 16 May 2016 23: 36
          +2
          Quote: opus
          Outside and can not be distinguished

          The difference is only in the platform, on the firing characteristics a large minus a strong +, they are unlikely to differ, because for those tasks it was supposed to operate in different latitudes.
          Right now, even with the sea they are wise, but at. can clarify wink
          Threat. The Arabs, for example, refused to take on the KAMAZ platform, they returned, they cheated there, but this is shhhh.
          1. opus
            opus 17 May 2016 00: 54
            +2
            Quote: Stroporez
            The difference is only in the platform.

            repeat:
            Quote: opus
            The development of the promising Pantsir complex for the Air Defense Forces was assigned by the KBP in 1990.



            Quote: opus
            "North" or "South"
            chassis (tracks, wheel) is not so important.

            Dump truck TATRA (now 815 Arctic, TATRA T163 JAMAL) - all gas production was built ... on "wheels"
            Quote: Stroporez
            after all, for those tasks, it was supposed to operate in different latitudes.

            it makes no sense if they go to the Southern Military District, it is spent on "northern" ones, steel, rubber, double seals, vacuum glass, autonomous, etc.
            Quote: Stroporez
            They refused to take on the KAMAZ platform, they returned, they were wise there, but this is shhhh.

            having traveled by MAN (Merce) to KAMAZ it’s hard to climb.
            Saudis pampered, La change 1p in 2 of the year, or in 1н
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 17 May 2016 01: 04
              +2
              Quote: opus
              repeat:

              Pardonde generously drinks
              Wrote before you posted foty.
              you write everything pralno, on business, only in real life with all this creak it all goes.
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    3. Stalker.1977
      Stalker.1977 16 May 2016 16: 43
      +3
      To go nuts, it feels like this is something from a science fiction film, Hollywood will bite off his elbows with his nails !!!
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 16 May 2016 17: 13
        +3
        Quote: Stalker.1977
        To go nuts, it feels like this is something from a science fiction film, Hollywood will bite off his elbows with his nails !!!

        This is not Hollywood. This is someone clearly looked too much Macross. smile
    4. Ride78
      Ride78 16 May 2016 22: 00
      0
      You probably missed the article about how many foreign parts are in these complexes. Therefore, it’s straight wow))) And now the question is - why are there so few of them? Think)
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 May 2016 16: 25
    +3
    Somehow everything is done right up to tears. Great news.
  3. dsm100
    dsm100 16 May 2016 16: 27
    +3
    Yes, I think that it will be more stable on the caterpillar track. There were cases, I know about one (at least) case when the Shell was turned over. On tracks, the center of gravity is much lower.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 16 May 2016 17: 39
      +5
      Quote: dsm100
      There were cases, I know about one (at least) case when the Shell was turned over.

      So ... you can flip everything.
      1. Vladimir61
        Vladimir61 16 May 2016 19: 45
        +3
        This is not I said, this is a bearded man!
  4. Kotost
    Kotost 16 May 2016 16: 27
    +1
    Cool device smile
    Is -50 a sufficient limit for the Arctic?
    1. iliya87
      iliya87 16 May 2016 16: 52
      +7
      Well, at - 60 they can attack if only penguins))) I do not know this is my personal opinion.
      I heard about Tomahawks that they don’t fly at - 40.
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      2. WUA 518
        WUA 518 16 May 2016 18: 12
        +4
        Quote: iliya87
        I heard about Tomahawks that they don’t fly at - 40.

        In Alaska, at temperatures below -40, they also do not fly.
        1. opus
          opus 16 May 2016 23: 38
          +2
          Quote: WUA 518
          In Alaska, at temperatures below -40, they also do not fly.

          Seriously?
          But there’s nothing there (at heights) up to -60grS + high-speed pressure of the medium.

          If the memory does not change the range of working (the possibility of take-off / landing) temperatures (normal aircraft and F-22, incl.): From -50 to + 50 deg.
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          2. WUA 518
            WUA 518 17 May 2016 01: 02
            0
            Quote: opus
            Seriously?

            This I did not say, but the commander of the air base Elmendorf-Richardson (Anchorage).
            Quote: opus
            But there’s nothing there (at heights) up to -60grS + high-speed pressure of the medium.

            Nothing. But is it okay that at low temperatures the engine undergoes the so-called heat shock, which leads to its rapid wear? When the engine is cold, and also when the engine is not sufficiently warmed up with low gas, the engine may become unstable. This is most often observed at low ambient temperatures with a sharp movement of the engine control lever.
            Quote: opus
            (at heights) up to -60 ° C + high-speed pressure of the medium.
            The increase in the number of M flights is accompanied by an increase in the temperature of the air flow both at the inlet and along the compressor path.
            1. opus
              opus 17 May 2016 01: 54
              +1
              Quote: WUA 518
              and the commander of the air base Elmendorf-Richardson (Anchorage).

              1. What is his name and when did he say that?
              2. The average annual temperature in Anchorage - 2.0 ° C. The average annual rainfall is 412 mm.
              Average temperature in January: -10.7 ° C. This is the lowest average temperature throughout the year.



              in what dream (and who? the "commander") had
              Quote: WUA 518
              In Alaska, at temperatures below -40, they do not fly either

              ?
              OBS?
              Quote: WUA 518
              Is it okay that at low temperatures the engine undergoes the so-called thermal shock, which leads to its rapid wear?

              is it in the internal combustion engine? and the internal combustion engines are on the F-22
              1. I’ll remind you that the T-80 with the gas turbine engine turned on in any weather; 9 I don’t need to warm it with a soldering iron)
              2. Oil for VT-301 turbojet engines, the lower range is limited only by the pour point (oil thickening -60gC.
              3.
              Quote: WUA 518
              the so-called thermal shock

              Heat stroke is a consequence of overheating of the body ....

              TRDD - "on the drum" - thermal shock, this is a heat engine




              They do not even store them in hangars.
              And at the request of those who are afraid of "heatstroke" can heat the "path" with a heat gun
              Quote: WUA 518
              The increase in the number of M flights is accompanied by an increase in the temperature of the air flow both at the inlet and along the compressor path.

              a lot of M's growing? at F-22, in peacetime 2M (max)

              Cruising speed: 850 km / h (M = 0,8)
              the air in the passenger turbofan engine (Boeing, Tu, IL, Airbus) is very hot
              Quote: WUA 518
              along the compressor path.

              ?
  5. 76SSSR
    76SSSR 16 May 2016 16: 40
    +1
    Inspire a sample however!
  6. Observer2014
    Observer2014 16 May 2016 16: 53
    +2
    "Arctic" Shell "will be shown next year at the Victory Parade"
    Interestingly, do the partners understand the hints of fatty circumstances? The European NATO, not the American, is not ready for a strike from the Arctic zone. And aircraft carriers do not "float" in the ice. repeat And the territory where anything can be placed is not small. And besides submarines, the United States has difficulty floating up in the ice and there’s nothing repeat
    1. Monos
      Monos 16 May 2016 17: 38
      +16
      Quote: Observer2014
      Interestingly, and partners understand hints of thick circumstances?


      Thin may not, but even they will understand such.

      Parade on the Kotelny Island on 9 of May.
  7. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 16 May 2016 16: 59
    +2
    It seems that under the S-500, a platform in the Arctic is being prepared. The main blow is expected from there, and the characteristics of the S-500 chocolate fit into this version.
    1. uskrabut
      uskrabut 16 May 2016 17: 18
      +3
      The Northern Sea Route will also be pillaged by the Arctic shelf, otherwise there will be a lot of people who want to stick. At the same time, they are defending themselves from intercontinental missiles, and submarines with tridents like to float there.
  8. 31rus2
    31rus2 16 May 2016 17: 12
    +2
    Dear, I think there will be either an articulated all-terrain vehicle, or modernized with a wide caterpillar, well, with the corresponding northern equipment
    1. WUA 518
      WUA 518 16 May 2016 17: 26
      +2
      Quote: 31rus2
      Dear, I think there will be either an articulated all-terrain vehicle, or modernized with a wide caterpillar, well, with the corresponding northern equipment
      Chassis GM-352M1E
  9. uskrabut
    uskrabut 16 May 2016 17: 16
    +1
    If my memory serves me right, then initially the Shell was conceived on a caterpillar chassis, then, due to poverty, they put it on Kamazovsky. Now here again for the north we will have to do as we intended. It is right. It's one thing to drive in the sands, quite another - in the snow and swamps.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 16 May 2016 17: 48
      +2
      Quote: uskrabut
      If my memory serves me, then initially the Shell was conceived on a caterpillar chassis, then, due to poverty, they put on Kamazovskoye

      Not out of poverty. But because "Pantsir" was intended for the country's air defense. In which there are no tracked chassis - only wheeled ones.

      He also does not need to run across the battlefield and front-line roads. His task is to move along the prepared road from one position to another and stand up, guarding the S-300/400 division in the near zone. So the cross-country ability of its chassis may well correspond to the cross-country ability of the chassis of "large" air defense systems (PU, TZM, radar and any technical vehicles of these complexes).

      Plus, the country's air defense has less stringent shooting requirements - the "Shell" does not need to cover the columns, but the positions. And to work far enough from the front line, moreover, with information about the air situation. That is, even on the march, he always has time to stop and hang out on the supports.
      1. 31rus2
        31rus2 16 May 2016 20: 17
        0
        Dear, you are wrong, initially the "Pantsir" and went on a tracked chassis, including to cover the columns, later went "Armor" for many platforms, including in a "truncated" form, there is also "Armor" "based on a semi-trailer, there will soon be a naval version and a version without guns, but with 12 missiles, and the Kamaz base is far from the best, and the creators of the complex say about this
    2. Ride78
      Ride78 16 May 2016 22: 03
      0
      By poverty?) You also probably don’t know what KAMAZs are made of))
  10. Starik72
    Starik72 16 May 2016 17: 28
    +1
    Great news, it means that in the north there was a great fist that could crush the teeth of any aggressor who attacked us.
  11. Kibl
    Kibl 16 May 2016 18: 22
    +1
    Such a good "shredder" !!!
  12. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 16 May 2016 18: 49
    +3
    After all, the Tor-M2KM was created in the form of an autonomous module. You want to put it on the ground near an important object, you want to mount it on any suitable chassis in terms of carrying capacity, and you can hunt for a threat from above in motion. or a moving battery will arrive faster than on a red tilt wagon with the inscription "Coca-Cola" or on an old freight wagon with peeling paint alone "living out" its life in the most remote dead end of a large and important railway station).
  13. cap
    cap 16 May 2016 19: 31
    0
    It’s impressive what to say there. The thing is necessary. They will add universality to the price movement. More precisely, it will be considerable. I think there will certainly be an export option.
    Keep it up.
  14. vasek5533
    vasek5533 17 May 2016 07: 56
    0
    There was and is such a car - "Tunguska". "Armor" is just its replacement, a vehicle for covering columns on the march + short-range defense of stationary objects. 352M1E is the Tunguska chassis modified for the carapace. The Minsk chassis has a unique hydropneumatic suspension, only it provides accurate shooting on the go.
    In the early 2000s, when there was no money, all work was carried out at the expense of the Arabs. Tests in the desert in the heat showed that the tracked chassis is not quite right and the Arabs did not want it, therefore they do it on wheels + it’s their own, only they do horizontal guidance in Minsk, it has 352 chassis.