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Defense Ministry buys the next "Raptors" and road tugs

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The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation issued the contract for the construction of Raptor speedboats and tugboats with a total number of more than 10 units to Leningrad Shipyard Pella, the blog reports bmpd with reference to the press service of the military department.


Defense Ministry buys the next "Raptors" and road tugs


Under the terms of the contract, deliveries must be completed before the end of 2018.

According to the blogger, “just by now, Pella has built nine boats for the 03160 Raptor project for the Russian Ministry of Defense (the lead boat has been transferred to 2014 g) and 12 for 16609 off-shore tugs (the lead ship has been transferred to 2012 g).”

Help Ministry of Defense: “Raptor patrol boats of Project 03160 Raptor are boats of the coastal zone that perform tasks in daylight and dark. Data speedboats on Navy They are used to patrol water areas, landings, and perform search and rescue operations. The maximum speed of the boat reaches 48 knots.

The 16609 raid tugboat is designed to perform towing and cranking operations in the port, on roads and coastal areas, and to conduct escort operations at speeds up to 10 nodes. In addition, the tug is used for removing ships and ships from the shoals, extinguishing fires on floating objects and onshore facilities, transporting cargo, as well as for participating in rescue and special operations. ”


Photos used:
ssv1965 / forums.airbase.ru, Leningrad shipbuilding plant "Pella"
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  1. tiredwithall
    tiredwithall 16 May 2016 12: 00
    -21%
    We continue to build mosquito fleet. Cheap and angry.
    1. gray smeet
      gray smeet 16 May 2016 12: 03
      -29%
      Quote: tiredwithall
      We continue to build mosquito fleet. Cheap and angry.


      Just build other ships - no opportunity.
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 16 May 2016 12: 06
        +16
        Quote: gray smeet
        Quote: tiredwithall
        We continue to build mosquito fleet. Cheap and angry.


        Just build other ships - no opportunity.


        Well, of course, Raptor, this is our limit. fool
        1. gray smeet
          gray smeet 16 May 2016 12: 11
          -1
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU


          Well, of course, Raptor, this is our limit. fool


          This is not the limit - can we take an aircraft carrier to the wall in the Russian port? Or will it be in the raid? And such trifles are full in the fleet. And tell me, how much are we building Grigorovich? from December 2010 - what about opportunities, comrade? You can minus it, but have you really been in the eye?
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      2. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 16 May 2016 12: 12
        +15
        Quote: gray smeet
        Quote: tiredwithall
        We continue to build mosquito fleet. Cheap and angry.


        Just build other ships - no opportunity.

        Do you propose to patrol coastal areas and rivers on cruisers?
        1. tiredwithall
          tiredwithall 16 May 2016 12: 21
          +1
          And who said that this is bad?
        2. gray smeet
          gray smeet 16 May 2016 12: 23
          +1
          Quote: Observer 33

          Do you propose to patrol coastal areas and rivers on cruisers?


          Where are the ships of the first rank? So, I do not wait for your answer, so far we have no opportunity to build such ships (not theoretically, but to build!). Otherwise, they would be built - try to refute!
          1. FenH
            FenH 16 May 2016 12: 39
            +1
            Quote: gray smeet
            Quote: Observer 33

            Do you propose to patrol coastal areas and rivers on cruisers?


            Where are the ships of the first rank? So, I do not wait for your answer, so far we have no opportunity to build such ships (not theoretically, but to build!). Otherwise, they would be built - try to refute!



            22.06.2015 Russian Navy Commander Viktor Chirkov told the media that construction of the Leader destroyers could begin in 2019.

            And here is some information about what is being built
            https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D0%BA%D0%BE%
            D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B9_%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE-%D0%BC%
            D0%BE%D1%80%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D1%84%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B0_%D0%A0%
            D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%A4%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B5%D
            1%80%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B8
            1. gray smeet
              gray smeet 16 May 2016 12: 42
              +2
              Wikipedia is fine, but at what plant is construction underway - can you give reliable info?
              1. FenH
                FenH 16 May 2016 12: 52
                0
                Quote: gray smeet
                Wikipedia is fine, but at what plant is construction underway - can you give reliable info?

                Do you find laziness yourself? Drive the name of the ship under construction in the search bar and find detailed information
          2. kotvov
            kotvov 16 May 2016 12: 42
            0
            . Otherwise, they would be built - try to refute! ,,
            I try, of course you are too lazy to google.
            1. gray smeet
              gray smeet 16 May 2016 12: 53
              +3
              Quote: kotvov
              . Otherwise, they would be built - try to refute! ,,
              I try, of course you are too lazy to google.


              Dear comrade, almost all of these ships were built in the Soviet, or by inertia, at the beginning of the post of the Soviet period. This says a lot, about the limited possibilities, both of the budget and the technical capabilities of modern Russia, but we can convert it, but there is no planned construction yet - and no need to hide our heads in the sand - this will not make the problem any less urgent.
            2. Stirbjorn
              Stirbjorn 16 May 2016 15: 33
              0
              Quote: kotvov
              Otherwise, they would be built - try to refute! ,,
              I try, of course you are too lazy to google.

              about the Eagles for what year is the news? wassat Ushakova and Lazarev have long been written off
            3. satelit24
              satelit24 16 May 2016 18: 28
              +1
              Buddy kotvov let them start at the beginning! And then they can (vorogi) and miss that time! And yet, they can hold some kind of “Olympiad” or something like that, and then even there will be no money for a mosquito fleet!
          3. 33 Watcher
            33 Watcher 16 May 2016 12: 45
            +7
            Quote: gray smeet
            try to refute!

            But why?
            Are you unhappy that we are not building cruisers? Or by building patrol boats? request
            However, they are not related to each other. And even the enterprises are completely different.
            We won the Ministry of Emergency Situations from "imported plastic" to domestic "Strela" (KNAAPO). Okay? Good.
            Write an article about the inability to build ships of the first rank. Let's discuss ... hi
            1. gray smeet
              gray smeet 16 May 2016 13: 03
              0
              Quote: Observer 33
              Quote: gray smeet
              try to refute!

              But why?
              Are you unhappy that we are not building cruisers? Or by building patrol boats? request
              hi


              It's not about whether I am satisfied or not - I ascertain the fact that when a comrade spoke about the mosquito fleet, I answered him - Now we have no way to build another. - What's wrong?
              1. 33 Watcher
                33 Watcher 16 May 2016 13: 54
                0
                I see only one fact.
                This one: The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has issued a contract to the Leningrad Shipyard Pella for the construction of Raptor high-speed boats and harbor tugs in a total of more than 10 units, the bmpd blog reports, citing the press service of the military department.
                Everything else, opinions ...
                Sometimes, not having the slightest relation to the fact under discussion. Like, for example, this:
                Quote: Leshy74
                and that - there were fewer fires since the gims had new boats - or there were fewer floods? naive - we argue that earlier they will pass a law on 20 percent of income from individuals than even the destroyer will lay ...

                Well, as they say, someone that hurts ... Well, there was something about the bathhouse ... yes
            2. goblin xnumx
              goblin xnumx 16 May 2016 13: 09
              -1
              and that - there were fewer fires since the gims had new boats - or there were fewer floods? naive - we argue that earlier they will pass a law on 20 percent of income from individuals than even the destroyer will lay ...
          4. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 16 May 2016 22: 36
            +1
            Quote: gray smeet
            Quote: Observer 33

            Do you propose to patrol coastal areas and rivers on cruisers?


            Where are the ships of the first rank? So, I do not wait for your answer, so far we have no opportunity to build such ships (not theoretically, but to build!). Otherwise, they would be built - try to refute!

            Well, you understand everything with Us. We, in your opinion, lagged behind and the devastation in shipbuilding.

            But explain to the reader why the Americans do not build "ships of the first rank"? Currently, they have the largest ships - the URO Cruisers of the Ticonderoga type, with a displacement of 9800 tons, and Squadron destroyers of the Arleigh Burke type, with a displacement of 9648 tons.
            The only large ships the Americans have are aircraft carriers, but they don’t have offensive weapons like cannons, torpedoes, ballistic missiles and Tomahawk cruise missiles. They mainly have defensive air defense systems and six-barreled guns like Vulcan.

            There are large cruisers in Russia - the heavy nuclear missile cruisers of the 1144 Orlan project with the displacement of 25860 tons. These are Peter the Great and Admiral Nakhimov. And there are two ships of this type, but not yet suitable for military operations. But ships of this type no longer plan to build. And this is understandable:
            These are very expensive and heavy ships, stuffed with a wide variety of weapons. To destroy it, one cruise missile is enough to sink - two is enough. Therefore, both the American and Russian military decided to build ships of the type of destroyers, corvettes and other types of missile ships of smaller displacement. These ships are able to fend for themselves, their size and cost are much smaller, there are many of them and they are distributed over various seas and oceans. Destroying numerous small targets is much more difficult than the battleships of the Second World War.
            That’s why they don’t build it, and since Russia has already built the 4 Ornan Project 1144 Heavy Nuclear Missile Cruisers at the Baltic Shipyard, the Baltic Shipyard, in principle, can build them, only ships of this class of Russia are no longer needed and therefore there is no funding.
            Very "poor" America also does not build ships of this class.
    2. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 16 May 2016 12: 04
      +15
      Quote: tiredwithall
      We continue to build mosquito fleet. Cheap and angry.

      Do you have such a irony or trolling? The theme of the new patrol boats is not the only one in the news section on the Navy and the FSB Border Service. For example, at the end of May, the Black Sea Fleet will receive the frigate Admiral Grigorovich, also a mosquito?
      1. BARKAS
        BARKAS 16 May 2016 12: 08
        -6
        It's good that the news is not about lifejackets!
      2. DenZ
        DenZ 16 May 2016 12: 17
        0
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Quote: tiredwithall We continue to build a mosquito fleet. Cheap and cheerful. Do you have such irony or trolling? The topic of new patrol boats is not the only one in the news section on the Navy and the FSB border service. Look, for example, at the end of May the Black Sea Fleet will receive the frigate Admiral Grigorovich, also a mosquito?

        And what is wrong??? Man stated a fact. In full accordance with the essence of the news, they slammed him with minuses for this. I do not understand request What attacked then?
        "Admiral Grigorovich" is not a mosquito (and here it is also not clear), but the news is not about that, the news about the mosquito fleet is inexpensive and very serious and about tugs.
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      4. tiredwithall
        tiredwithall 16 May 2016 12: 27
        +8
        If you look at a half-empty glass, one will say that it is half empty, the other that is half full. This is a psychotype of thinking. Negative and positive. Negativists - people are hard in life and always fight with someone.
        Well, a mosquito fleet is necessary, as is the little finger on the arm. Take away any finger - disabled.
        1. Verdun
          Verdun 16 May 2016 14: 03
          +1
          Well, a mosquito fleet is necessary, as is the little finger on the arm. Remove any finger - disabled
          Yeah, that's just the index finger you can pull the trigger, and with your little finger - to dig into the nose.
    3. Stena
      Stena 16 May 2016 12: 06
      +7
      This is not a "mosquito fleet". Missile and torpedo boats - that would be a mosquito fleet. And tugs are generally auxiliary vessels. As far as I understand, they can be used not only in the Navy.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 16 May 2016 12: 34
        +1
        In the photo with the new tug I noticed "Aurora". When will it return to its original place? (It would be nice to have managed by November 7))).
        And I like the "Raptor": a high-speed one, and it has everything for close combat and even boarding. Somehow the galleys of Peter the Great remind me in modern understanding. But the military budget is not rubber, but you can have such ships and more. And not only the patrol troops.
    4. FenH
      FenH 16 May 2016 12: 10
      +4
      Quote: tiredwithall
      We continue to build mosquito fleet. Cheap and angry.

      This is for border guards. The speed of the mother does not grieve at him-86 km per hour. It is enough to drive strangers from the borders. Previously, it was extremely problematic
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 16 May 2016 13: 16
        +4
        Quote: FenH
        This is for border guards. The speed of the mother does not grieve at him-86 km per hour. It is enough to drive strangers from the borders. Previously, it was extremely problematic

        The Raptor is not for border guards, but for the Navy. Patrol and landing boat.

        The FSB FS Coast Guard has its own PSKA projects - 12150 and 12200.
        1. FenH
          FenH 16 May 2016 13: 28
          +2
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Quote: FenH
          This is for border guards. The speed of the mother does not grieve at him-86 km per hour. It is enough to drive strangers from the borders. Previously, it was extremely problematic

          The Raptor is not for border guards, but for the Navy. Patrol and landing boat.

          The FSB FS Coast Guard has its own PSKA projects - 12150 and 12200.


          The purpose of the boat is to deliver groups of personnel up to 20 people with the highest possible speed during group disembarkation and landing, keeping watch in designated areas, intercepting and holding small targets, saving people in watch areas, defending base points, ships (ships) from small attacks surface, air and ground targets in unprotected raids, ensuring the operations of special forces and marines in coastal areas, as well as assisting the forces of the Border Service of the FSB of Russia during solution of the tasks of protecting the state border.
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 16 May 2016 14: 20
            +2
            Quote: FenH
            as well as the promotion forces of the Border Service of the FSB of Russia in solving the tasks of protecting the state border.

            Assistance to ecological value-chain and product innovation among SMEs. And not the protection of the state border.
            The Raptor is a Navy patrol boat. And the frontier guards, or rather the guard of the PS, belong to a completely different department - the FSB.

            And the FSB already has a single large PSKA - pr. 12200 Sobol. Displacement 57 tons, speed 47-50 knots, armament - 1 MTPU with CPV.
            1. FenH
              FenH 16 May 2016 14: 27
              0
              Quote: Alexey RA
              Quote: FenH
              as well as the promotion forces of the Border Service of the FSB of Russia in solving the tasks of protecting the state border.

              Assistance to ecological value-chain and product innovation among SMEs. And not the protection of the state border.
              The Raptor is a Navy patrol boat. And the frontier guards, or rather the guard of the PS, belong to a completely different department - the FSB.

              And the FSB already has a single large PSKA - pr. 12200 Sobol. Displacement 57 tons, speed 47-50 knots, armament - 1 MTPU with CPV.

              You're right hi
    5. pilot8878
      pilot8878 16 May 2016 12: 12
      +4
      We continue to build mosquito fleet. Cheap and angry.

      And will you do auxiliary operations "Moscow" and "Kuznetsov"?
      1. Verdun
        Verdun 16 May 2016 16: 49
        +1
        And will you do auxiliary operations "Moscow" and "Kuznetsov"?
        And we, the Russians, have such a national tradition - to start building large ships, when it is already clear that war is on the nose and a roasted cock is approaching the ass. And after the war, dismantle them unfinished ...
    6. ava09
      ava09 16 May 2016 12: 25
      +5
      Quote: tiredwithall
      We continue to build mosquito fleet. Cheap and angry.

      "Cheap and cheerful" is not yet "reliable and appropriate for the tasks." But the number is growing and the average person is satisfied when the number of built "units" is indicated in the reports without dividing by class ...
      1. gray smeet
        gray smeet 16 May 2016 12: 39
        +4
        Quote: ava09

        "Cheap and cheerful" is not yet "reliable and appropriate for the tasks." But the number is growing and the average person is satisfied when the number of built "units" is indicated in the reports without dividing by class ...


        When they reported about a Ukrainian similar boat, they spat pretty well, but ours built - tomorrow we are ready to go on a campaign on it, against any fleet.
    7. chunga-changa
      chunga-changa 16 May 2016 13: 16
      0
      This is not a mosquito fleet, this is an auxiliary fleet, the difference is big.
    8. BEECH 1972
      BEECH 1972 17 May 2016 09: 49
      0
      Quote: tiredwithall
      We continue to build mosquito fleet. Cheap and angry.

      And what does the mosquito fleet have to do with it, or is it cheap and cheerful? Ships of this class belong to the forces of the auxiliary fleet and they will be assigned purely specific tasks, the fulfillment of which by the forces of the main fleet is akin to firing from the "Peony" at mosquitoes. Or, in your language - "Too expensive and incredibly stupid.
  2. Ronin62
    Ronin62 16 May 2016 12: 02
    +3
    You can't do without this "little thing"!
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 16 May 2016 12: 08
      +4
      Video topic:
  3. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 16 May 2016 12: 04
    +2
    I have a question for the naval ... Why are tugboats always hung with tires, why don't they make a rubber belt right away, in factories? So to speak, regular ..?
    1. Ronin62
      Ronin62 16 May 2016 12: 12
      0
      Yes they do, they do, but it is far from perfect.
      1. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 16 May 2016 12: 19
        0
        There are even more questions. recourse
        1. Ronin62
          Ronin62 16 May 2016 12: 34
          +3
          Fender protection tends to break off and become unusable relatively quickly, due to the very high mechanical stresses experienced by it. Use the factory-go broke. And you can get your used tires almost for free. smile
    2. cap
      cap 16 May 2016 12: 41
      0
      Quote: Observer 33
      I have a question for the naval ... Why are tugboats always hung with tires, why don't they make a rubber belt right away, in factories? So to speak, regular ..?


      Change the girder for long and tedious. b \ nothing costs not hanging out because the water in it is like a balancer. And always in stock laughing
      1. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 16 May 2016 13: 08
        0
        Thank! Clear. Factory engineers at the national port have not yet surpassed laughing I just observe this all over the world that, not a port, then tires, and have long been interested ... hi
    3. 31rus2
      31rus2 16 May 2016 14: 07
      0
      Dear myself, not a sailor, tires, so that when mooring do not hit the sides, nose, i.e. a kind of shock absorber
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  4. 31rus2
    31rus2 16 May 2016 12: 08
    +3
    Dear, all this is necessary. There is no doubt. The energy bridge and the Kerch bridge must be carefully guarded.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 May 2016 12: 17
    +5
    An excellent boat - light armor, a heavy machine gun, an inspection team, and speed - no one will leave. It is quite adequate to the tasks. And at the borders of these, more than one hundred are needed. But tugboats - they are tugboats in Africa too. They are always in demand in the port.
    1. FenH
      FenH 16 May 2016 12: 25
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      An excellent boat - light armor, a heavy machine gun, an inspection team, and speed - no one will leave. It is quite adequate to the tasks. And at the borders of these, more than one hundred are needed. But tugboats - they are tugboats in Africa too. They are always in demand in the port.


      The mosquitoes simply forgot how we couldn’t catch the Japanese poachers at one time, we had to catch up with the guns. Now, due to the speed of the chances for the Japanese to escape from the persecution, it has diminished, while it has increased
      1. cap
        cap 16 May 2016 12: 46
        0
        Quote: FenH
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        An excellent boat - light armor, a heavy machine gun, an inspection team, and speed - no one will leave. It is quite adequate to the tasks. And at the borders of these, more than one hundred are needed. But tugboats - they are tugboats in Africa too. They are always in demand in the port.


        The mosquitoes simply forgot how we couldn’t catch the Japanese poachers at one time, we had to catch up with the guns. Now, due to the speed of the chances for the Japanese to escape from the persecution, it has diminished, while it has increased

        Here's the topic.
        1. cap
          cap 16 May 2016 12: 59
          +6
          Quote: cap
          Here's the topic.
          [img] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxpym4OxYbc [/ img]

          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 16 May 2016 15: 36
            0
            so the Navy raptors order and not the border guards
  6. Taygerus
    Taygerus 16 May 2016 12: 30
    +1
    THIS Navy HAS ITS TASKS AND OBJECTIVES, A NEW GOOD, RAPTORS ARE NEEDED FOR THE BORDERS AND THE PACIFIC Navy WILL NOT BE FORMED TO BE FORMED
  7. Div Divich
    Div Divich 16 May 2016 12: 33
    +3
    I feel that these Raptors will still be ordered a lot.

    A very successful military boat for the internal needs of the country ...
  8. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 16 May 2016 13: 23
    +4
    EKLMN. Well, when will people learn to read, huh? fool
    Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation issued a contract to OJSC Leningrad Shipyard Pella for the construction of Raptor high-speed boats and harbor tugs with a total number of more than 10 units,

    Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Defense! And not the FSB, which is in charge of the border service with its BOHR.

    "Raptors" will not go to any border guards. Moreover, the BOHR has no "raptors" at all - they have their own requirements for PSKA and their own projects.
  9. Verdun
    Verdun 16 May 2016 13: 34
    +1
    We continue to build a mosquito fleet. Cheap and cheerful. tiredwithall
    I feel that these Raptors will still be ordered a lot.

    A very successful military boat for the domestic needs of the country. Sofa Sofa
    It, of course, is understandable that on cruisers the bosses cannot go fishing. That's just the fleet should develop harmoniously. Since the Raptors have no chance against the latest frigates of the same Turkey. They will devour these predators and will not choke. Blood from the nose, we need full-fledged warships.
  10. Phosgene
    Phosgene 16 May 2016 13: 53
    +1
    Tugboats are a necessary thing, of course, you can’t do without them, but it would be worthwhile to pay attention to the construction of boats with more serious weapons. For example, build 12 units of missile boats of the 12418 Lightning type for each fleet of the Russian Federation, each of which is armed with 16 Uran UCC. Such boats They are not very expensive and have strong strike weapons, which would be very useful for coastal defense and fire support of the landing, near the borders of the Russian Federation, if necessary.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 16 May 2016 15: 56
      0
      Quote: Phosgene
      .For example, to build for each fleet of the Russian Federation 12 units of missile boats of the 12418 Lightning type, each of which is armed with 16 Uran UCCs. Such boats are not very expensive and have strong strike weapons, which would be very useful for coastal defense and fire support for the landing, near the borders RF, if necessary.

      You can build it. It’s just that they hover near the wall of the plant until 2020. For in power plants, boats are used afterburner gas turbine engines produced by yourself you know whom.
      These GTEs are supplied to the Russian Federation only for export orders - on the appropriate conditions (all sorts of there "end user certificatesYou cannot use them for internal orders - otherwise we will disrupt the supply of ships for export and fly out of the market (plus the return of the advance payment, penalties for non-fulfillment of contracts). Reducing foreign exchange earnings from the defense industry is not the best option for the budget, especially against the backdrop of falling oil prices ...
  11. lopvlad
    lopvlad 16 May 2016 14: 36
    +1
    The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation issued a contract to OJSC Leningrad Shipyard Pella for the construction of Raptor high-speed boats and harbor tugs in a total of more than 10 units.

    everything is correct. The fleet should be upgraded from coastal infrastructure and progressively to aircraft carriers. Monitoring of the country's marine territories begins from controlling its coast to controlling distant oceans.
    Simply, a country in the ocean should not do horseradish if it does not have full control of its coastal waters.
    The Ministry of Defense is doing everything right and the military doctrine in Russia is defense. Here we are, first of all, patching holes in the defense.
  12. BEECH 1972
    BEECH 1972 16 May 2016 23: 49
    0
    And what does the mosquito fleet have to do with it, or is it cheap and cheerful? Ships of this class belong to the forces of the auxiliary fleet and they will be assigned purely specific tasks, the fulfillment of which by the forces of the main fleet is akin to firing from the "Peony" at mosquitoes. Or, in your language - "Too expensive and incredibly stupid.