Political speculation and escalation of Russophobia

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Political speculation and escalation of RussophobiaA few years ago, being in the Crimea, I had a chance to go to the Alushta Local History Museum. There is an exhibition dedicated to the Great Patriotic War. Guerrillas and underground fighters killed by fascists look at visitors from photos. Some died in battle, others were brutally tortured in the dungeons of the Gestapo, subjected to terrible torture. Among the dead are girls. There are representatives of the most peaceful professions in this mournful gallery - doctors and nurses.

In all cities that survived the Nazi occupation, there is a martyrch of those who fought against fascism in the underground. But in Alushta history museum of local lore, I remember an important detail - many of the dead partisans and underground fighters were betrayed by traitors - the Crimean Tatars. Unfortunately, this is true, which I, as an internationalist, painfully think about.

But the fact remains that Stalin’s most difficult decision to deport the Crimean Tatars was not made from scratch. And the episodes with the betrayal of the Alushta partisans are only a small part of the crimes committed by those who went over to the side of an external enemy.

At the beginning of 1942, Hitler specifically allowed the Crimean Tatars to serve in his army. In only one small Alushta, an 728 man entered the service in the Wehrmacht. In total, in the Crimea, by the end of 1942, eight Crimean Tatar punitive battalions were formed. The occupation authorities gave the Crimean Tatars considerable privileges: they were forbidden to rob, they were paid for food at the market price (the rest were simply taken away, their arms would reach out). Such conditions could not be provided just like this: it is a reward for active cooperation.

The beautiful faces of the devotees and the murdered Alushta partisans involuntarily remembered me in connection with the excitement around the mournful song "1944". By the way, sung at Eurovision, by chance or not, almost immediately after the 71 anniversary of the Great Victory.

Of course, hurriedly pulled out by the Ukrainian propaganda, the songwriter Jamal will not recall either the fight against fascism, or the people killed because of the treachery. From the very beginning, the goal was different - once again to defame the country that crushed the brown plague of the twentieth century.

“My world was taken from me. I did not have a Fatherland, ”the singer screamed, squeezing a tear from compassionate Europeans. How can you not show sympathy for the tragedy of the unfortunate small people? But then, in the 1944 year, there was a terrible force that took both the world and the Fatherland from almost all European nations. Do not count those whose loved ones were shot, tortured, whose houses were bombed and burned, who were forced to leave their dreams and go to war, so that, perhaps, forever remain on the battlefields.

But there are words in the scandalous song that are somehow not tied to history Crimean Tatars evictions: “When strangers come, they come to your house, they kill you all and say:“ We are not guilty, not guilty ”.

First, the Crimean Tatars were not killed, but resettled. Yes, tough and even maybe cruel. However, the families of those who really fought with the occupiers were freed from this fate. But who now, after a pitiful song, will remember this? But the words "They kill you all" - obviously can not be true in this case.

And did the Soviet troops, who had just liberated the Crimea, could say something like: “We are not guilty”? In no case. On the contrary, it was the Soviet government who accused the Crimean Tatars in collaboration with the fascists. And law enforcement officers, who carried out the most difficult decision of the Soviet leadership, could not say "We are innocent." They had no reason to make excuses.

So, are the words in this song simply “far-fetched”? Or is it a deliberate political provocation, when they allegedly sing about one event, but in fact it is a completely different matter?

As you know, today the Ukrainian junta accuses Russia of “aggression” and “annexation”. Russia is in a position when it has to make excuses. Maydan same regime, with the support of the West continues to commit crimes against civilians in Donbass. And not only the Donbass - in Ukraine after the Maidan coup a real tyranny reigns, suppressing any disagreement.

The result was political speculation on the fate of the very Crimean Tatars, to whom the song “1944” was allegedly devoted. And the Crimean Tatar Jamala took an active part in this cynical speculation.

The strained victory of this song creates the ground for new political speculations. Next year, 2017, Ukraine should adopt Eurovision. Kiev already declares that it wants to do this ... in Sevastopol. This is an absolutely inadequate and unrealistic dream, which, however, can warm up Russophobia in Ukraine (it is unlikely to provoke a real war, but calls for “liberation” of Crimea will intensify).

As a possible venue for "Eurovision" talk about Odessa. True, they prefer to “forget” about the fact that it will be dancing on the ashes of people burned by 2 in May 2014. And this tragedy is unlikely ever to be sung at Eurovision.

There is one more thing. When hosting Eurovision, Ukraine is obliged to accept an artist who will represent Russia. But what if the junta made a “black list” of Russian artists who dared to declare disagreement with it one way or another? Kiev has already hurried to put forward a condition: it must be a person who condemns the "occupation" of the Crimea and supports the so-called "ATO" in the Donbas. Does this condition fit in with Eurovision, which should be out of politics?

It should be ... But after the victory of Jamala, the non-political nature of the competition is already a huge question. Even the declared theme of her song is already connected with politics. Not to mention the subtext, which altogether turns “Eurovision” into a biased political show after the persecution of the country - the winners of fascism.

Now every nation, in theory, should have the right to sing about their sufferings. For example, there is something to sing to the Serbs, who were expelled by NATO from a sacred, historical region - Kosovo and Metohija. Indeed, everything is like in the song of Jamala: they came to someone else’s house, saying: “We are not guilty.”

There is something to sing and artists of Russia. For example, about the sufferings of residents of Donbas cities shelled: Donetsk, Gorlovka, Shakhtersk, Debaltseve, Lugansk and many others ... Or about people burned alive in Odessa. It is enough to veil the words a little - and the organizers should have no reason to find fault: they allowed Jamal ... But, of course, there are reasons: Europe has long been famous for its double standards.

One thing is clear: now, because of the Ukrainian political speculation supported by the West, a competition designed to unite peoples can become a pretext for the escalation of Russophobia, and therefore a new hostility between peoples.

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  1. +129
    16 May 2016 06: 16
    It remains only to find "meldonium" in Lazarev's blood and everything will fall into place.
    1. +7
      16 May 2016 06: 21
      They found Povetkin and will deal with him.
      1. +51
        16 May 2016 12: 15
        lazarev then, that still "cockerel" ...
        1. +2
          16 May 2016 16: 44
          One thing is clear: now because of Ukrainian political speculation supported by the West, a competition designed to unite nations may become an occasion for the escalation of Russophobia, and - a new hostility between nations.


          The article and the author for these last lines have some fat cons.

          Since when "gay vision"is called to unite peoples ?! And what about that"may be the reason for the escalation of Russophobia"- well, it was necessary to invent something like that, about a meaningless action. It turns out that the lady does not see beyond her nose. And why was it necessary to place this rubbish here.

          And glory to GOD that this infection will once again bypass our country.
          1. +9
            17 May 2016 06: 06
            Quote: Alena Frolovna
            Since when is "gay vision" meant to unite peoples ?!

            Italy missed this show about five times and nothing. Actually, I don’t understand what kind of noise out of nothing. When we begin to respect ourselves, and in ..... i.e. we’ll stop looking into the mouth of this Europe. What problems are few in Russia?
            1. +8
              17 May 2016 20: 09
              Thank you Elena Gromova for the article! You have the absolutely correct formulation of the question. I would add one more thing. I think that many will come to this my opinion over time.
              I do not believe that Jamala did not understand that she was deliberately participating in political provocation against the historical truth of the treason of the overwhelming majority of the Crimean Tatars during the Second World War and against Russia, a country in which she hospitably lives with her parents, being a citizen of Ukraine. You just need to expel such enemies of the Russian Federation from the country! Moreover, she is a foreigner. Delov something! What problems could there be if her political action had such a negative, hostile, negative political resonance? During a new war with Russia, she will be the first to soap herself somewhere in the USA or England. The "legs" of her song seem to grow there.
              For example, the Maidan "young lady" with the dream of "lace panties" in the EU and aggressiveness against Russia was not given the job in the Russian Federation, which she was counting on. She still sticks out in Ukraine. And with Jamala everything for Russia is much cooler politically and much more hostile!
              Need to take action. NATO is now threatening Russia with war - and why do we need Jamal in our rear ?!
            2. 0
              18 May 2016 00: 58
              Italy missed this show about five times and nothing. Actually, I don’t understand what kind of noise out of nothing. When we begin to respect ourselves, and in ..... i.e. we’ll stop looking into the mouth of this Europe. What problems are few in Russia?

              Information opposition to the demonization of our country should be carried out by any means. The impact of the show on the public is proudly stronger than the dry exchange / economic calculations.
          2. +1
            18 May 2016 11: 31
            Alena to you +, and on minuses do not pay attention YOU RIGHTS!
        2. mihasik
          +13
          16 May 2016 19: 50
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          lazarev then, that still "cockerel" ...

          And for the same thing I crammed minuses yesterday))).
          1. +4
            17 May 2016 04: 52
            Quote: mihasik
            Although, of course, there are reasons: Europe has long been famous for double standards.

            Double standards, double standards. There is a good RUSSIAN word for this - HYPOCRISY.
            1. +1
              19 May 2016 03: 13
              About double standards and a different look.
              Rate the words of the song Jamala (in parentheses is my concept):

              When strangers come ... (in the form of APU)
              They come to your house
              They kill you all and say
              "We are not guilty ... not guilty" (and they say they release ... from whom?)

              Where is your mind?
              Humanity is crying (not only in the Donbass, but also your mothers)
              You think that you are gods, (messengers of Poroshenko and Turchinov)
              but everyone dies,
              do not swallow my soul
              our souls.

              I could not spend my youth there because you took my world (killing my daughter and mother during the shelling of Donetsk)

              We could build a future (without Bandera)
              Where people live and love freely
              Happy times ..

              Where are your hearts?
              Humanity, prosper
              Do you think you are gods
              But people are dying
              Do not swallow my soul
              Our Souls

              I could not spend my youth there because you took my world

              I didn’t have a Fatherland .. (my fatherland is not banderaland)

              So that song is most likely about modern Donbass
          2. +5
            17 May 2016 06: 13
            In Showbiz, I don’t think there are normal people. Well, 0,001%. Maybe. And on the minuses - f. It is not known who put them.
        3. 0
          17 May 2016 14: 58
          The most offensive is that along the way it is really blue
        4. 0
          17 May 2016 16: 54
          Yeah. What a coward! Undergrowth ...
    2. +88
      16 May 2016 06: 28
      Even commentary does not pull, how clumsy it worked! But in Europe, ordinary people do not go far ... you ...! However, now at the next Eurovision song contest, the Germans can sing the song "1944", the French "1814", and the Swedes tighten the ballad about Poltava, where evil Russians came to their homes, Turks, wishing to get into the EU, can bring a hit on the theme: "What a pain! What a pain! Izmail-Suvorov, 5: 0!" ... laughing And then for the first time in the history of Eurovision, four countries will win at once, gaining the same points from an impartial professional jury! laughing
      1. +9
        16 May 2016 06: 47
        More truly 0: 5! laughing
      2. +22
        16 May 2016 07: 03
        Quote: Finches
        Swedes tighten the ballad of Poltava

        They have already sung, and not bad. But it is unlikely that they will be allowed to enter Eurovision with such songs:

      3. +6
        16 May 2016 07: 05
        However, now at the next Eurovision song contest the Germans can sing the song "1944", the French "1814", and the Swedes tighten the ballad about Poltava,

        But what about the Turks, they forgot about the Turks.
        1. +3
          16 May 2016 09: 21
          I remembered about the Turks! laughing
          1. +7
            16 May 2016 11: 49
            The spectators of Europe are for us and this is the main thing! But Kiev zvizdets! According to the rules of the competition, all costs are borne by the host country, and this is millions! Yesterday it was announced that the Russian participant would not be allowed to come to Kiev as a separatist, and this is a scandal! And the main thing is the conflict in the East, it can resume at any moment. And how will Azov react if it does not like the vote?
            1. +3
              16 May 2016 22: 32
              The spectators of Europe are for us and this is important! But Kiev is a star! According to the rules of the contest, all expenses are borne by the host country, and this is millions !!
              What’s the question, but do we need it? When Bilan won and the competition was held with us, there was talk of a billion rubles spent. It’s not better to cure sick children with this money, rather than collect SMS
            2. 0
              16 June 2016 11: 20
              Quote: Apsit
              But Kiev is a star! According to the rules of the competition, all costs are borne by the host country, and this is millions !! Yesterday it was announced that the Russian participant will not be allowed to come to Kiev as a separatist, and this is a scandal!

              But here, not everything is as straightforward as you think. It was not for nothing that Kiev so cordially held a "hey" parade, having assigned four police officers to each gay parader. As a kind of goodwill step in response to a strained and politicized victory. And the fact that a Russian representative will not be allowed to attend the next Eurovision, there will be no tragedy for the ruling representatives of minorities, moreover, it will be just another victory over the evil Kremlin "homophobes". Therefore, if any scandal happens, it will only be in a way that is beneficial for today's Western conductors. Unless, of course, before the next "hey" parade, that is, Eurovision, nothing extraordinary happens.
          2. +1
            17 May 2016 11: 32
            Well, the Turks can play there not one song, but an entire album.
        2. +32
          16 May 2016 11: 30
          I didn’t want to comment, but something gripped.
          If we consider the Crimean Tatars, who during the Second World War collaborated with the Nazis from their current positions, it turns out that the Nazis can be equated with ISIS, i.e. to a terrorist-fascist organization, respectively, they must be considered from the point of view of current legislation, as extremist terrorists, and their families, as accomplices to terrorists!
          And what is the punishment under current laws for terrorists?
          That's it!!!
          So what is Comrade. Stalin was wrong ?!
          And what is this jamila whining about?
          1. wax
            +32
            16 May 2016 16: 48
            Stalin was absolutely right. There was a war on the territory of the USSR, there were still many casualties ahead in the war with Nazi Germany, so was it possible to leave the armed fifth pro-fascist column in the rear on the Crimean peninsula, on which the enemy could land a landing in the rear of our troops? Vaughn, the "democratic" States, on the territory of which there was no military action, interned all (!) Japanese, Germans and Italians. In a few days, Stalin liquidated the terrorist enclave behind Soviet lines with his troops. It was a fairly humane operation that ultimately saved the Crimean Tatars. One can apologize that without trial and investigation and not everyone is justified, but guns speak in war, and not the laws of peacetime.
          2. mihasik
            +6
            16 May 2016 19: 54
            Quote: PHANTOM-AS
            And what is this jamila whining about?

            Still do not understand?))
            Everything fits into one question: "What about us?"
          3. +4
            16 May 2016 20: 43
            Quote: PHANTOM-AS
            And what is this jamila whining about?

            The whole point is in the thoughtfulness of the multi-walk ... Immediately after her "victory", the journalists bombarded her with the question, will there be Gay Vision in Crimea? That is what the whole performance is for.
            And for me, if you shave Conchituvurst, you get Jamal ...
            1. +2
              17 May 2016 04: 23
              And for me, if you shave Conchituvurst, you get Jamal ...
              And if Jamala does not shave for a week ......?
        3. 0
          16 June 2016 10: 58
          Quote: sanja.grw
          But what about the Turks, they forgot about the Turks.

          Yes, they have not forgotten anything. They even raised this topic twice.
          Quote: Finches
          Turks, wishing to get into the EU, can bring a hit on the theme: "What a pain! What a pain! Izmail-Suvorov, 5: 0! Or rather 0: 5! laughing
      4. +16
        16 May 2016 09: 16
        Or maybe it's just time to raise the prestige of their contests, instead of running after the European illusions of justice and the ghosts of impartiality? what request
      5. -57
        16 May 2016 09: 24
        It worked clumsily, but if you remove the politics, Jamala has a better song and deserves first place. Lazarev has the usual emasculated popsogon. You have to admit to yourself to learn where the goose bumps were, and where it’s easy - well this is ours.
        1. +7
          16 May 2016 11: 57
          Quote: Ride78
          You have to admit to yourself to learn where the goose bumps were,
          I have goosebumps from such a nashash. the same pop music, only exploiting a hot topic.
        2. +17
          16 May 2016 15: 21
          Quote: Ride78
          Jamala’s song is better and worthy of the first place. Lazarev has a regular emasculated popsogon

          Yeah, only Lazarev’s first place in the vote by a decent margin, it’s clear that the pop, but the pop is of high quality, is made at the highest level. What’s interesting is the incomprehensible jury that appeared this year, why in most countries it gave us the lowest score, unlike viewers, i.e. it does not represent its own people, but is apparently purely the leadership of all this circus with Eurovision ..
        3. +6
          16 May 2016 16: 47
          many Ukrainians and most Europeans rated Lazarev to the maximum.
          no matter how you name-calling his performances, people really liked
          But Jamala, with completely politicized and historically false howls, ruined my mood completely. Maybe she tried, but this can not be done at the Eurovision Song Contest.
          not sincere emotions about the events to which she referred were particularly touched. Hypocrisy, cynicism, bigotry.
        4. +1
          16 May 2016 17: 41
          ... strange, BUT but the allegedly clumsy work of Lazarev by bookmakers was rated higher than the song of Jamala, this does not mean anything to you, huh?
        5. +5
          16 May 2016 18: 49
          One can argue about tastes and musical preferences for a long time. The article is not about that. Just a music contest turned into a political scene. Well, the Crimean Tatars certainly suffered. Well, they have long been rehabilitated. And this girl generally has little to do with Crimea. Born in Central Asia, studied in Ukraine. The fact that her father is a Crimean Tatar does not give her the right to consider Crimea his home.
        6. +1
          16 May 2016 21: 09
          And here's what, dear: at this "competition" besides Russia, there were great songs by performers from Australia, Poland, Austria, Sweden, Bulgaria and many others!
          1. +1
            17 May 2016 23: 21
            Australia doesn’t count at all. At the European competition, a Korean woman from Australia sings. What kind of absurdity?
        7. +3
          17 May 2016 04: 45
          Lazarev is an ordinary emasculated popsogon. You have to admit to yourself to learn where the goose bumps were, and where it’s easy - well this is ours.
          Eurovision is just notpoliticized(even the charter of the competition says this) a popular music competition. And about "goose bumps" ...... we can sing about the ashes of Khatyn, about the villages of Poland, Ukraine, Belarus destroyed by Bandera, about the people killed by "Galichina" in France, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia (yes, yes, these freaks were involved in punitive operations against civilians throughout Europe) ........... well, or about the House of Trade Unions, or the murdered children of Donbass.
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      6. +17
        16 May 2016 11: 16
        From the Russian Federation to Eurovision 2017 Alexandrov Choir with the song "Victory Day" or the Cossack Choir (conductor Shoigu) with the song "Our Cossacks Are Going Around Berlin"
      7. +34
        16 May 2016 12: 45
        Have you really decided to discuss this topic here? How can you watch this degenerative under-competition in general, let alone listen to it? And seriously discuss this when such a creature as Conchita Wurst wins there. This whole competition is another propaganda and the imposition of Western values. No thanks, I'd rather listen to Peter Ilyich.

        Or from a foreign one.
        1. +2
          17 May 2016 02: 09
          How can you watch this degenerative under-competition in general, let alone listen to it?
          And all the more to participate, thank you need to say Ukrainians! If Lazarev won, we had to threaten another billion to conduct this squalor!
    3. +32
      16 May 2016 06: 29
      Quote: Renat
      It remains only to find "meldonium" in Lazarev's blood and everything will fall into place.

      Europe is like that. They forbade the Armenian singer to show the Karabakh flag, but Jamale can sing such songs. One Roman sentence comes to mind:
      "What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull."
    4. +66
      16 May 2016 07: 07
      Quote: Renat
      It remains only to find "meldonium" in Lazarev's blood and everything will fall into place.

      My opinion is, why pay attention to the Eurovision Song Contest? It has long turned into a politicized show. absolutely divorced from reality.
      Yesterday, for the sake of interest, I watched the 3 winners.
      Jamil generally sucks - why the hell to sing political songs
      Australia? So, a kangaroo scare, in general, what Australia does in Eurovision.
      Lazarev's song was certainly the best. Undoubtedly (from my point of view)
      Well, what about Eurovision?
      Dzhamilya divorced Ukraine to grandmas, her song will be forgotten today. and the money for Eurovision in Kiev will be collected by new taxes from the population.
      They will remember her deportation and Stalin and Tatars. laughing
      1. +29
        16 May 2016 09: 08
        Jamil generally sucks


        Barrymore, and what is this terrible howl in the swamps, is it really the Baskerville dog again.
        No sir, this is Jamala performing at Eurovision.
      2. +6
        16 May 2016 09: 50
        Quote: atalef
        It has long turned into a politicized show. absolutely divorced from reality.
        Yesterday, for the sake of interest, I watched the 3 winners.
        Jamil generally sucks - why the hell to sing political songs
        Australia? So, a kangaroo scare, in general, what Australia does in Eurovision.

        In general, according to the results of the voting of the "professional" jury, it was clear that Europe gave preference to the Korean woman from Australia at the European song contest. Well, the second place is naturally Jamalia. And then a thought arises. Tolley wanted to float the competition to Australia, so as not to spend money on it, or the problem of refugees is not enough for them. Next year, the Negro from Taiwan will probably win.
        1. 0
          16 June 2016 11: 49
          Quote: tomket
          Next year, the Negro from Taiwan will apparently win.

          Fu sir, aren’t you ashamed to argue so politically? What kind of Europe are you talking about? If for a long time there has been no Europe, nor Australia, nor Japan, much less Taiwan or South Korea. There is a conglomeration of oligarchic structures of a group of vassal states concentrated in a single economic and political zone under the control of the United States. Because the presence of an extraneous state from another continent in a narrowly continental competition was met so passively and even I would say joyfully. Therefore, already at the next competition anyone can appear, at least a black man from Taiwan, even an Afro-Chinese from a farmosa.
      3. +1
        16 May 2016 16: 50
        I’m not hurt that Lazarev was lowered. He earned the respect of the Europeans in the case, and that’s enough. It offends me that they are imposing such a false idol like Jamil or Conchita. This is not just not like it, but really enrages.
        1. +1
          16 May 2016 23: 06
          It's simple, geysoyuz, once again showed its complexity.
          And the viewer made his choice.
          1. 0
            16 June 2016 11: 51
            Quote: magosvel
            It's simple, geysoyuz, once again showed its complexity.

            You probably wanted to say confusion?
    5. +35
      16 May 2016 07: 46
      It remains only to find "meldonium" in Lazarev's blood

      Come on, only if he has one. The worst would not have happened
    6. +57
      16 May 2016 07: 54
      I do not understand the enthusiasm about Lazarev
      1. -3
        16 May 2016 08: 14
        I see nothing terrible in his words. Russia is different from Europe and other ghettos with clearly dictated opinions and punishments for dissent. Here, everyone has the right to an opinion if this opinion does not offend the rest.
        If you do not understand the difference between these words and statements of the same Makarevich, then for me it is somehow even more strange ...

        The fact that he publicly expressed a not popular idea is his right and his responsibility. Let it not be surprised then that people do not go to the concert.

        But his number on the Euro-matinek was objectively stronger than those who took their places in front of him and his attitude towards Crimea does not change the fact that he was condemned for geopolitical reasons. And this is precisely what causes a public outcry, and not he himself as the singer of "Lazarev".
        1. +10
          16 May 2016 10: 05
          Quote: insular
          I see nothing terrible in his words. Russia is different from Europe and other ghettos with clearly dictated opinions and punishments for dissent. At us, everyone has the right to an opinion

          Seriously ?????)))) Tell Makarevich. And is not involved in the RBC Kremlin?
          Citizen, you definitely live in Russia and were not born yesterday. Or does the desire to overpower the desire to objectively look at things?
          1. +6
            16 May 2016 12: 01
            Quote: Al1977
            Seriously ?????)))) Tell Makarevich.
            Makarevich began not only to express his opinion, but also to teach others. perhaps it was for imposing his opinion as the only correct one that paid.
          2. +7
            16 May 2016 14: 23
            Makarovich is still that mu..k.
        2. +16
          16 May 2016 11: 58
          Quote: insular
          ..his room at the Euro-match was objectively stronger than those who took places in front of him
          Yes you? In my opinion, at Eurovision, in honor of golly pop with one-day songs, and comparing their merits is like comparing sorts of shit. In general, this so-called. "Competition" can be called "musical" only with a very rich imagination.
          Quote: insular
          ..condemned him for geopolitical reasons
          Yeah. And even the powerful deflection about the "Ukrainian Crimea" did not count. Let's cry over the bitter fate of Seryozhenka - the great singer with our mouths. Ugh, dirty trick.
          1. +7
            16 May 2016 13: 30
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            Yes you? In my opinion, at Eurovision, the honorable pop-song is honored with one-day songs and comparing their virtues is the same as comparing crap varieties.


            )))))))))) +++++++++ !!!!
            Nothing to supplement, just like an apple!
        3. +4
          16 May 2016 16: 43
          Quote: insular
          I see nothing terrible in his words.

          and I do not see. he looks like this kid in his own words - he will grow up, understand wink
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      3. +13
        16 May 2016 09: 23
        That's right - if you're a bugger, then not only in bed, but, most likely, in life ... laughing
        1. +25
          16 May 2016 11: 50
          That's right - if you're a bugger, then not only in bed, but, most likely, in life

          All right. Like that.
          1. +4
            16 May 2016 20: 51
            if this is a statement about Lazarev, then to the point! good
      4. +1
        16 May 2016 13: 27
        Quote: Silhouette
        Silhouette (3) Today, 07:54 ↑ New
        I do not understand the enthusiasm about Lazarev

        Of course, for Lazarev Crimea is not Russia!
        After all, the Zionists planned to turn Crimea into their autonomy.
        Yes, Stalin saw through their plan in time.
        And for this he was probably poisoned
        1. 0
          16 June 2016 12: 00
          Quote: sherp2015
          Yes, Stalin on time [b] [saw through their plan / b]. And for this he was probably poisoned

          If you bite the plan, then you will be poisoned without additional poisoning. That is why smart people smoke a plan and not bite.
      5. +3
        16 May 2016 14: 19
        Serezhenka, dear ... Forgive me please ... Catch a tomato !!!
      6. +5
        16 May 2016 17: 36
        I agree. The cap is full, a citizen of the world but not Russia.
      7. +2
        16 May 2016 18: 56
        And there are no enthusiasms. Just for three days in a row, this euro vision does not leave the front pages of most information resources. It’s necessary to somehow react)))
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    8. +5
      16 May 2016 08: 27
      They will not touch Lazarev! He said in an interview on dill TV that he did not consider Crimea a part of Russia!
      1. +4
        16 May 2016 09: 47
        Not a fan of Lazarev, but:
        “The fact is that from an hour-long conversation on this topic and discussions on the relations between Russia and Ukraine, an anti-Russian interview was suddenly taken and cut. Mounting gluings are visible there. It was unpleasant for me ... ”, he said shortly after the interview came out in an interview with reporters
        1. 0
          16 June 2016 12: 05
          Quote: Axis
          suddenly they took and cut an anti-Russian interview. Mounting gluings are visible there. It was unpleasant for me..., he said shortly after the interview came out in an interview with reporters

          If it was really unpleasant for him, then he would not have spoken with the same mouth that he sings about the negative reaction of "Russian fans". And upon returning to Russia, at least I would have made an apology and refutation. He considers himself neither a citizen nor a patriot. And to understand this, you just need to glance at his entire repertoire. hi
    9. +2
      16 May 2016 12: 44
      If what to look for at Lazarev, then perhaps in smears laughing
      1. +1
        16 May 2016 19: 23
        Quote: siberalt
        If what to look for at Lazarev, then perhaps in smears laughing

        I respect professionals.
        1. 0
          16 June 2016 12: 16
          Quote: siberalt
          If what to look for at Lazarev, then perhaps in smears

          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          I respect professionals.

          What an interesting dialogue you have got, gentlemen. lol
    10. +4
      16 May 2016 14: 24
      It would be nice if ours came up with a song where the words said that the Crimean Tatars were deported due to cooperation with the Nazis and that partisans were brutally killed through their veins and that would be a good answer to these freaks
    11. +12
      16 May 2016 18: 43
      To begin with, this contest is disgusting to me! am And categorically incomprehensible fetish participation in it! Apparently high-ranking gays in the government and our mass media are bohemian, he is very fond and prestigious .. BUT for me this is a wretched mediocre action in no way related to art .. Even the fact that in the entire history of this ... has not been fulfilled not a single hit world scale (ABBA cannot be recalled) I consider Russia's participation in this mediocre lewdness a SHAME! It's time to stop this sabbath, and not to remember it anymore, it is better to spend the money allocated for participation in it, as our liberals like to say on "children and pregnant pensioners", that's for sure there will be more benefits .. And the current participant is something- then something, and his statements should be considered by the prosecutor's office in the light of calls for the collapse of our state .. It's time to consider the article on deprivation of citizenship and expulsion of these scum from our country! am
      1. 2ez
        0
        17 May 2016 10: 12
        ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU !!! In an extreme case, to send there collectives like "Buranovskiye Babushki", I say without any sense about this, they at least sincerely sang! There is no point in investing money in this project ... And in no case should it be carried out in Russia! let Geyrope be pleased ...
    12. +1
      17 May 2016 05: 24
      It is clear that the competition is biased. But the result is wonderful! Even suspicion plays into the hands of GDP :). Lazarev was given the right ride - he is still a liberal, but how will the Svidomites get out on May 9, 2017? Moreover, if they have enough brains to hold a competition in Odessa. And how the local Natsiks will be glad to come in large numbers of Eurogey! And we need to send the choir of Alexandrov to the competition with the song "Get up and huge ..."! How happy everyone will be!
  2. +37
    16 May 2016 06: 20
    Next Eurovision
    1. +4
      16 May 2016 06: 58
      I think it is correct that Ukraine won the Eurovision. All of Europe and the whole world speaks of Ukraine, which rebelled against corruption and against Russia. let them go to Ukraine and let them see what they have achieved during this time. Once they came to Ukraine, there will be something to compare. I hope that after Ukraine Eurovision will be in Russia.
      1. +40
        16 May 2016 07: 03
        I hope that after Ukraine Eurovision will be in Russia.

        Her, we don’t need this booth
        1. +26
          16 May 2016 08: 03
          Finland, at the 2016 vision, was represented (unsuccessfully, true) by singer Sandya.
          Kickboxer and, as is customary here, a lesbian. A child of a native Finn who converted to Judaism ("as he considered it the most correct religion") and nurses of Indian origin from distant Guyana. The Indo-Finnish woman herself also professes Judaism and spends the lion's share of the time in Israel.

          Israel was represented by Hasid-stylist Howi Star (Hovav Seculets).
          In April he was "humiliated" by Russian border guards at the airport: at border control in Moscow, "" Russian border guards began to laugh at his appearance and clothes, and also tore the singer's passport. According to him, for some time he was not allowed to enter Russia. “I don’t know, maybe they did it because I’m a homosexual, because of the way I dress or because of my makeup,” he said.

          From France - Israeli singer Amir Khalifa Hedider Haddad, a Tunisian-Moroccan Jew who began his creative career in the synagogue choir.
          From Sweden - British-Nigerian footballer France Osifuh Yeppsson Wall.
          From San Marino - Turkish producer, showman and dentist Ahmet Serhat Hajypashalyoglu.
          From Malta - one of the leaders of the local LGBT movement Ira Losko.

          A solid homosexual delegation from Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, pop homosexuals from Denmark with Great Britain and Beatleman homosexuals from the Netherlands, a former member of the trashy Westlife boy band from Ireland, a South Korean singer from Australia, a certain Dutch Canadian from Switzerland, a young vegan anime from Germany , a "rocker" by the name of Shpak from Poland, four Georgians with the original name "Young Georgian Lolitaz" ...
          1. +8
            16 May 2016 09: 26
            And Lazarev in your real straight?) Well, just wondering how you think.
            1. +8
              16 May 2016 09: 43
              Fagot he's over
              1. +1
                16 May 2016 11: 45
                As a performer, to put it mildly, not a genius .... A whole bunch of people at the contest abruptly sang him, except for Jamala, a Latvian and a fat aunt from Finland ... For example, I liked the Pole more as I sang ...
                1. 0
                  18 May 2016 15: 16
                  Ha!
                  Because he sang a green-eyed taxi ...
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          2. +5
            16 May 2016 12: 05
            conclusion - it is necessary to oblige Valuev to accept Judaism and send to ukroyverovlenie with a song during which the jury beat? laughing
          3. +4
            16 May 2016 12: 34
            Class! I mean the fact-finding work. Eurovision ... I remember there Borisovna was lowered below the city sewer. And to act in such a company, so in general. "Do not communicate with fagots, do not even stand by your side ever"!
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      2. +2
        16 May 2016 09: 17
        Chota, I doubt that Ukraine will live to see the next Eurovision. Will have to go to Odessa People's Republic
        1. +2
          16 May 2016 11: 55
          Quote: Winnie76
          Chota, I doubt that Ukraine will live to see the next Eurovision. Will have to go to Odessa People's Republic

          I’m ready to bet you 1000 euros that it will survive. In a personal email, I'm quite serious. We can even raise rates. Ready ??? Or Troll ???
      3. +2
        16 May 2016 11: 23
        I agree with you! Maybe that was the calculation! And from Europe! Poroshenko, presumably, is very "grateful" to Jamala and tears his hair in all places. Awarding "first place" to a frankly sucking song and performer looks more like a compulsion to peace! Think for yourself under what conditions it will be possible to hold Eurovision with dignity ???? !!!! Not to mention the fact that stealing in the coming year will have to be tied, although it is not real! Poroshenko has 2 options: 1. Make peace in the country (execute Minsk2), order, security, clean up the Natsiks, remove from circulation a bunch of unaccounted for trunks, spit out some of the stolen goods or rip off the last skin from the population (with subsequent special "gratitude" from the people) to organization of the competition .... otherwise who will go to them for the competition? .... 2. Leave everything as it is in the previous course, completely disgrace yourself next year (either many will not come, or will come and see everything with their own eyes). ....
      4. +5
        16 May 2016 11: 32
        Nah we do not need this Eurovision.
      5. +4
        16 May 2016 12: 47
        In general, I am glad that this "show" will take place not here in Russia, and in general it is high time to tie up with this geyrovision !!!
    2. 0
      16 June 2016 12: 27
      Quote: sanja.grw
      Next Eurovision

      You are like him, Nostradamus, or at least Wolf Messing!
  3. +49
    16 May 2016 06: 22
    Susanna (Jamala) is not a Crimean Tatar, she is half Armenian (by mother), the family moved to Crimea, near Alushta, in 1989. from Kyrgyzstan. I wonder why she did not want to sing about the genocide of the Armenian people, because this topic is also close to her ?!
    1. +16
      16 May 2016 06: 52
      Well, how can you sing about the Armenian Genocide, because her sister is married in Turkey, and this may affect not more than conscience but more than complicated ...
    2. +2
      16 May 2016 09: 46
      Crimean Tatars know that Jamala is from Crimean gypsies.
      1. 0
        16 June 2016 13: 17
        Quote: Silhouette
        Crimean Tatars know that Jamala is from Crimean gypsies.

        And the Crimean gypsies, in turn, know that she is from a mess.
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    4. +1
      16 May 2016 11: 40
      Everything is very simple and corny, who pays, TOT and orders music ...
      1. +1
        16 May 2016 13: 30
        Quote: Karlovar
        Everything is very simple and corny, who pays, TOT and orders music ...

        Captain obvious.
    5. +4
      16 May 2016 12: 07
      Quote: B.T.W.
      I wonder why she did not want to sing about the genocide of the Armenian people, because this topic is also close to her ?!
      Turkey’s genocide, therefore, it’s not interesting for the geyrop. now, if the Russians were noted in this, such songs were inspired. am
    6. 0
      16 June 2016 13: 16
      Quote: B.T.W.
      I wonder why she did not want to sing about the genocide of the Armenian people, because this topic is also close to her ?!

      Because she doesn’t give a damn about all Armenians, Kyrgyz, Ukrainians, Crimean Tatars, and even more so Russians. She, like Serozha Lazarev from the breed of new liberals, that is, liberalists. And this species of creatures has no homeland or any national pride and values. Their god and ideal is money, and the promised land of the United States, everything else is only temporary means to achieve the goal, earn more wealth and dump your dreams on the ground.
  4. +24
    16 May 2016 06: 25
    survived ... now some kind of show will influence politics .... isn't it too important to attach too much importance to the media to all kinds of "shows", creating an unhealthy excitement around these "events? on the same Eurovision" everyone "..." is uprooted as soon as possible, and the "trances" are bearded, and the nationalists ... and God knows who else! and if our country is so correct, so Orthodox. why the hell are our "stars" going there? ah, yes ... glory , tours, babos ... well, yes, yes ... ugh, on this "problem" ...
    1. 0
      16 May 2016 23: 26
      Andrey Yuryevich. I completely agree with you, one hundred percent !!! Sincerely.
  5. c3r
    +15
    16 May 2016 06: 25
    Let them shove their fagging in .. rtmon. Tired of this incomprehensible sponsorship of either PACE or this under-festival. Enough to substitute ears under their asses that look very like mouths!
  6. +14
    16 May 2016 06: 27
    Stalin was a statesman !! Government solutions are not always popular, but they are necessary to save the country! And the fact that there was mass betrayal is a fact.
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    1. +25
      16 May 2016 06: 46
      The popular vote showed everything, and the fact that the so-called representatives of the jury arranged there
      1. +5
        16 May 2016 07: 02
        Danish judge mistakenly gives 12 points to Jamale at Eurovision
        x-true.info - According to media reports, a jury member stated that Ukraine should not have received points from Denmark. Eurovision jury member Hilda Hake, who was responsible for scoring, made a mistake in calculating points and put Ukraine in first place, giving her 12 points, although Jamala should have been left without glasses. Read more ...
  8. +14
    16 May 2016 06: 31
    Quote: B.T.W.
    Susanna (Jamala) is not a Crimean Tatar, she is half Armenian (by mother), the family moved to Crimea, near Alushta, in 1989. from Kyrgyzstan. I wonder why she did not want to sing about the genocide of the Armenian people, because this topic is also close to her ?!


    Song about the Armenian Genocide is impossible to sell profitably !!! That’s the whole answer! And in this situation, the Armenian woman from Jamal is like a bullet from shit. Selling and lying on through.
    PS Especially distinguished Denmark ... cowardly moving out of the topic. We were mistaken, they say. Just a laugh ...
  9. SOF
    +3
    16 May 2016 06: 33
    sanja.grw (5) RU Today, 06:20 New
    Next Eurovision

    OFF !!!
  10. +8
    16 May 2016 06: 36
    it was necessary to send a cord
    1. +3
      16 May 2016 06: 45
      Quote: ivagulin
      it was necessary to send a cord

      The cord there would put everyone on their ears smile , these eurosec wassat, as comrade Khrushchev used to say, he would show them "Kuzma's mother" bully wassat
      1. 0
        16 June 2016 13: 22
        Quote: razmik72
        , as comrade Khrushchev used to say, he would show them "Kuzma's mother"

        Rather, he would have shown them than Kuzma’s mother.
    2. +12
      16 May 2016 06: 48
      it was necessary to send a cord

      As Rogozin tweeted - Win does not win, for that he will send everyone an erotic route
      1. +1
        16 May 2016 11: 19
        Yes, the cord is a worthy candidate for the next Eurovision. Red Mold is good as a fallback. Compositions "Cossack" or "Eastern lubricants" will just be the theme for the heroes. laughing
  11. +13
    16 May 2016 06: 37
    Timely Article! Thank!!!!!! very relevant. why do we need this Eurovision ?????? can send to hell ????
  12. +6
    16 May 2016 06: 39
    To sing such a song, you must first betray your people!
  13. +38
    16 May 2016 06: 40
    that’s all, but not what kind of politics, it’s all about the photo lol ...................... PS already got so much outskirts and a geyropa that I already understood the meaning-sits in the liver
  14. +11
    16 May 2016 06: 40
    I believe that a future competition should be boycotted, with the wording: They are not able to provide security. And it will be quite objective.
    By the way, there are really many questions for the future organization of the event ...
    1. +1
      16 May 2016 11: 52
      And these issues, in the process, are unsolvable .....
    2. +1
      16 May 2016 12: 11
      Quote: Observer 33
      By the way, there are really many questions for the future organization of the event ...
      well, Ukrainians decided to cheat, have already voiced a proposal to hold a contest in the Crimea, and that, because Ukrainians believe that the Crimea is Ukrainian. fool angry
  15. +12
    16 May 2016 06: 42
    Those thanks to whom Ukraine won probably did not expect such a trick themselves. Let them now try to hold a contest in a poor country, where the Nazis are in power and where there is a civil war.
    1. 0
      16 May 2016 11: 52
      Most likely, this was the calculation.
  16. +8
    16 May 2016 06: 43
    And politics is everywhere now. The same scandal with meldonium ...
    Those things that are created to unite people and nations,
    now used as a weapon in the confrontation,
    to humiliate, put some participants in the position of outcasts.
    Well, actually the same Eurovision is in danger of becoming a small-town song and dance contest,
    in which only "friends" are allowed to participate.
  17. +33
    16 May 2016 06: 45
    Translation of Jamala's song: "We served Hitler, zigged, but the communists suddenly came and exiled us."
  18. +17
    16 May 2016 06: 47
    Comrades! Can leave this past "Pidrovision". We didn’t manage to win honestly, although we won. As for Russia, we have more than enough victories in the past, in the present, and in the future, I am sure. Well, think of not coming to us homosexuals and bearded women next year, not a great loss! And judging by the voting of spectators in Europe, there are many adequate.
  19. +11
    16 May 2016 06: 54
    The frankly insolent persecution of Russia in all directions is no longer even masked. The West believes that the bolder and more outspoken, the more effective. It is time for us to begin to conduct tougher propaganda, not looking back at the "limits of decency", which are not observed by the West.
  20. +8
    16 May 2016 06: 55
    On the one hand, it’s good that the wild won, let them now spend it, they have a lot of money. Dzhemilev and Poroshenko will be thrown off.
    1. 0
      16 May 2016 11: 54
      Do not fold! They will offer the people to "chip in" ...
  21. +15
    16 May 2016 06: 58
    ... a competition designed to unite peoples can become an occasion for the escalation of Russophobia, and therefore a new hostility between peoples.

    Controversial conclusion, contrary to all Russophobia in the viewers' vote, Lazarev No. 1.
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    2. +2
      16 May 2016 12: 12
      And to dance a platoon of "Polite People"
      1. +5
        16 May 2016 18: 25
        Quote: Belgorod
        And to dance a platoon of "Polite People"

        No. they are not capable of organizing, dancing, by their nature wink
  22. +11
    16 May 2016 07: 02
    The result was political speculation on the fate of the very Crimean Tatars, to whom the song “1944” was allegedly devoted. And the Crimean Tatar Jamala took an active part in this cynical speculation.


    We are waiting for the song "1941" from the Germans, about how they were cruelly deceived in the east, in the vast expanses of the USSR. Before that, everything was fair, they came, everyone gave up and they won ...
    1. +2
      16 May 2016 11: 58
      From the Poles-1612, from the Swedes-1709, from the French-1814, from the Turks, a bunch of dates ...
  23. +2
    16 May 2016 07: 07
    Ukraine, even before the finals, languished, they say if the Russians win, we will not go to them next year ...
  24. +2
    16 May 2016 07: 15
    Quote: B.T.W.
    Susanna (Jamala) is not a Crimean Tatar, she is half Armenian (by mother), the family moved to Crimea, near Alushta, in 1989. from Kyrgyzstan. I wonder why she did not want to sing about the genocide of the Armenian people, because this topic is also close to her ?!

    She is the same Armenian as I am a Spanish hedgehog. A Tatar like me Volgograd gopher. HE IS SHELTER!
    Yes, and I ask the Mirotvorey website, give the phone modmmm. I'll call you on Thursday.
  25. +10
    16 May 2016 07: 22
    Lazarev in 2014 announced that Crimea is Ukraine and he will never recognize it as Russian. Those. He is for the fascists-Bandera. I'm even glad that he did not win.
  26. +3
    16 May 2016 07: 33
    Quote: brasist
    Danish judge mistakenly gives 12 points to Jamale at Eurovision
    x-true.info - According to media reports, a jury member stated that Ukraine should not have received points from Denmark. Eurovision jury member Hilda Hake, who was responsible for scoring, made a mistake in calculating points and put Ukraine in first place, giving her 12 points, although Jamala should have been left without glasses. Read more ...


    In, and I am the same, they are there in Europe altogether off the coils, they cannot even give normally, but if they give it by mistake! What kind of people?
  27. +5
    16 May 2016 07: 35
    Hitler's pre-suicidal song performed by Jamala won wassat
  28. +5
    16 May 2016 07: 37
    Why is everyone so excited about this homosexual get-together called "Eurovision"? In a couple of days, they will forget that it actually existed.
  29. Riv
    +1
    16 May 2016 07: 41
    People, I don’t understand what you are arguing about. What was the song about? Not about Ukraine, not about Russia, not even about Crimea. About the Crimean Tatars who lived at that time and which almost all have already died. A sad song at the wake. Will you be outraged that someone will sing about the mom’s army that died on the Kulikovo field? Or about the genocide of the inhabitants of Korosten, which was arranged by Princess Olga? Hardly.

    Well, let him sing. Cases of bygone days, the legends of antiquity deep. Especially: Eurovision. This one, even without a beard ...
  30. +15
    16 May 2016 07: 58
    From my point of view, quite rightly the Crimean Tatars, as well as the Chechens and some others, were resettled. There was a war, and it was simply dangerous to have potential saboteurs in their rears who massively collaborated with the Nazis. What appeared in Western Ukraine, in Poland and the Baltic states.
    And there is nothing about this about the semi-Armenian howling all over Europe. They were not moved to concentration camps, not to gas chambers! And they could have gone to Kolyma ...
    1. +7
      16 May 2016 12: 11
      With the Far East, Soviet Koreans were resettled in Kazakhstan ... For the reason, so that Japanese spies, saboteurs had no one to mow under ... The decision of a statesman! But in the civil war in the Far East in battles against the Japanese invaders, the Korean partisan detachments were extraordinarily resilient, they did not surrender to the Japanese, they preferred death to captivity ...
      1. +1
        16 May 2016 14: 21
        Koreans were resettled by families to save from the very possible destruction. Subsequent history has confirmed concerns.
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  31. +5
    16 May 2016 08: 06
    Nothing surprising, I would have sung about "Debaltsevsky Cauldron" (who in Europe heard about it?), No matter who understood anything, but the jury voted the same way. Don't give a damn about politics and business, or anything other than personal ...
  32. +7
    16 May 2016 08: 29
    People, we must rejoice at the results of the competition. After all, what they showed is that Russia won the audience (which was originally conceived when creating Eurovision), and we won't have to go broke for the next competition - let Poroshenko (or whoever will be there by that time) breaks his head. Well, the peers' "professional" jury can be sent to ... Australia!
    1. 0
      16 May 2016 12: 13
      I completely agree with you .... I would even say about Putin’s cunning plan and .... Merkel ...
  33. 0
    16 May 2016 08: 46
    I don’t understand, but what is everyone dissatisfied with? For the Great himself admitted that the Crimean Tatars illegally suffered, because on the central channels there are shows where Soviet shepherds fall under the invaders, because now you hear from many that he is not Russian, but Russian ...
  34. +6
    16 May 2016 08: 57
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    From my point of view, quite rightly the Crimean Tatars, as well as the Chechens and some others, were resettled.


    Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian and other peoples "moved" to the front, under bullets and bombs. Themselves. So there is nothing to tell about your hard lot.
    And it would be nice for sympathizers to ask about the population growth statistics of these victims. And compare it with evil oppressors.
    1. +1
      16 May 2016 14: 16
      So * oppressed * can do nothing else.
  35. +12
    16 May 2016 09: 18
    The author is wrong, the betrayal of the Crimean Tatars was not episodic. It was the Crimean Tatars who destroyed in CRIMEA those who * are not Tartars * and those who could profit. Almost like in the NORTH CAUCASUS in the dashing 90s, they first destroyed * Russian-speaking *, then they divided * zones of influence among themselves. The entire male population of Tatars was in police custody, and it was they who destroyed the partisans and the Russian population of CRIMEA. According to the laws of wartime, they HAD to be shot, i.e. destroy all the Crimean Tatars, because women were smeared with blood. But they regretted and exiled. Today is the mercy of villains.
    And it’s easy to condemn deportation today, only tortured people cannot be returned. There remains a lesson of impunity and at the first opportunity everything will be repeated, I have no doubt.
  36. +4
    16 May 2016 09: 22
    Well, there’s still this abomination from gayvision on such a resource as VO to discuss ...
    Ugh! Devilish spawn.
  37. +3
    16 May 2016 09: 37
    Zakharova told a joke about the "return of the Crimea." The notorious leader of Ukraine addresses in prayer to the Almighty, says: "Help restore the Crimea." And he answered: “You have already returned the Crimea, now it’s time to return the money”,
  38. +4
    16 May 2016 10: 01
    Pedro and his comrades asked the EU for money 'got Eurovision. Hike someone nagged!
    1. +1
      16 May 2016 12: 15
      They’ve got it!
  39. +2
    16 May 2016 10: 10
    On the next gayvision, the entire hall will jump.
  40. +1
    16 May 2016 10: 25
    in a year, this whole garden will move to Khokholandiya. But will there only be a khololyandiya in a year?
  41. 0
    16 May 2016 11: 04
    Be that as it may, Sergey Lazarev received the most votes from the audience and the audience of Russia and Ukraine at the Eurovision Song Contest gave the majority of votes to each other.
  42. +8
    16 May 2016 11: 08
    I watched the performance of a Russian artist for the first time - I really liked it, but I turned off the sound beforehand lol .

    As for the results: we must be glad that everything turned out exactly like that, otherwise this whole rosy company would have arrived in Moscow next year, otherwise they will go to Kuyev, just to see with their own eyes that “everything is fine” there.

    PS Somewhere to our agents undercover yesterday they wrote out a presentation for orders and medals)).

    And if without jokes, then the best way not to lose to the sharpie is to not sit down to play at the table with the sharpie. And Eurovision, it is a stranger’s table and they only give out marked cards.
  43. +23
    16 May 2016 11: 17
    In 1980 he came to Sevastopol on assignment. By chance I found myself in a certain male company, and there was a WAR veteran among us. Well, we drank, and good. and this uncle said that in 1942 he was captured at Cape Chersonesos, among tens of thousands, abandoned by the gallant admiral Oktyabrsky (the commander of the Black Sea Fleet at that time) to their fate. They drove the columns of prisoners to different places, but the uncle said: “I don’t know where the rumor came from, but we prayed to God that the Germans escorted us, because those who were escorted by the Crimean Tatars, no one reached the camp. machine guns put all! " Uncle was lucky, he survived in the Simferopol camp, was liberated by ours in 1944. After checking, they were put into operation (and not in any Gulag!), But since they were weakened, they were not sent to the battle for Sevastopol, they just would not have the strength enough to climb Sapun Mountain. But they were sent to participate in the deportation of the Crimean Tatars. They stood in a cordon around the villages so that no one ran away. People from the NKVD troops walked around their homes, but he saw the loading, heard the screams and cries of women and children, but said: "THERE WAS NO Pity!" Yes, and the deportation was attended by units that fought in the Crimea in 1942-42, and the soldiers knew that they were doing a just cause!
    1. +13
      16 May 2016 12: 47
      Here's more about deportation:
      http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/dejavu57/post324884126/

      There, the fact is that about 200 people died on the road with 150 thousand people being resettled, which was slightly higher than the then mortality rate, but at the same time there were few young guys during the resettlement (they were hanging out in the SS).
      Yes, and fed rations at a rate higher than that of employees 500 g versus 400.
      And during the deportation, the following were seized: mortars - 49, machine guns - 622, machine guns - 724, rifles - 9888. Let me remind you this for 150 thousand, including children and the elderly, i.e. 13% of these settlers had weapons. These are the "peaceful" Tatars.
      So there is no need to feel sorry for the Tatars - they are to blame for their own fate.
    2. +2
      17 May 2016 04: 38
      I myself am from Taman, my grandmother (God rest her soul) as a child (late 60s) told me that the most cruel policemen in Taman were the Crimean Tatars, I didn’t even know such a nationality then, but I remember it very much.
  44. +10
    16 May 2016 11: 20
    (It should be ... But after Jamala’s victory, the competition’s politicism is already under a huge question. Even the declared theme of her song is already connected with politics. Not to mention the subtext, which completely turns Eurovision into a biased political show on the persecution of the country - the winner of fascism. )

    Confirmed by photo document:
  45. -16
    16 May 2016 11: 37
    As our president rightly said, we must win with a big advantage so that no one has any doubts, and not look for some kind of conspiracy. And if you don’t like the competition, then you don’t need to participate in it, you don’t need to watch it, especially since it went late at night, it’s better to sleep. I must admit that the performance of the Ukrainian singer was at the proper level, emotionally and with soul. And it is unworthy to "be smart" and giggle at the tragedy of an entire people, who have been deported only on ethnic grounds. Indiscriminately to accuse an entire people, and even more to punish them - this is fascism, when some nations are exalted, while others are belittled.
    1. +9
      16 May 2016 11: 47
      Here, half the planet has a reason to sing. We recall everything to the Turks, Mongols, Germans, and also to our allies in the Anatant, together with the Mattresses. Who robbed the country after 1917?
      If each time, like this, fumble wounds, then there will be wars, fooled people, etc.
      Yet again. let's now dig into history. Why were they deported? That's right - for aiding the Nazi regime. It was among the Crimean Tatars that there were a large number of collaborators. The Chechens underwent the same department for exactly the same thing. Specifically, the Baltic countries and the western regions of Ukraine went through. What was to be done? During the occupation, they did as many atrocities as the Germans themselves did not. OUN UPA is a direct burning confirmation of this.

      YES!!!! By the way, I almost forgot. About the Poles. 1609-1613 years. To sing the same? So think what to write !!!! And now YOU have a huge MINUS !!!!
    2. +3
      16 May 2016 12: 04
      "I must admit that the performance of the Ukrainian singer was at the proper level,"


      Howl in three notes do not understand what - a great mind is not necessary, like voices. It was necessary to say thanks to Stalin that he did not plague the traitors under the root, but only exiled him. But the USSR was never home to the Crimean Tatars, just as Russia was an eternal enemy to them. Everything was deserved. When there is a choice - I or the Homeland - choose the latter. And whoever chooses himself is genetic garbage
      1. +2
        16 May 2016 13: 04
        For them, the roof, and very cool at the time, was always the Ottoman Porta ... This situation has not changed to this day, though only the roof is very thin. In World War 2, Turkey (the Crimean Tatar roof) was an ally of Hitler Germany, so the Tatars very enthusiastically complied with the Turkey-Germany allied treaty ...
    3. +2
      16 May 2016 13: 37
      Quote: Menke
      And it is unworthy to "be smart" and giggle at the tragedy of an entire people, who have been deported only on ethnic grounds. To indiscriminately accuse an entire people, and even more to punish them - this is fascism, when some nations are exalted, while others are belittled


      And you, in general, are aware that among the Crimean Tatars there are 8 Heroes of the Soviet Union, and among the Tatars more than 160 ?! Before expressing such thoughts, it would not hurt to read the story, especially since there are enough sources.
      1. +1
        16 May 2016 14: 11
        Only now the relatives of these HEROES and other front-line soldiers from the Crimean Tatars were executioners and sadists. Those who refused to serve the Germans were killed. It was,
      2. +7
        16 May 2016 16: 31
        This is not an indicator. Moreover, not all were evicted. Those who fought with the Germans and partisan did not evict.
        And about the ranks of the GSS, the 4 pilots of the Normandy-Neman regiment were awarded the title of the GSS. And now let's compare the number of regiment and the number of Crimean Tatars. Feel the difference (even if you count from 150 thousand deportees).

        With all this, it should be noted that the Tatars began to help during the Germans' breakthrough Crimea - voluntarily. There are certificates and documents about this.

        And now the practice of the "Beacon of Democracy" is the USA. In 1941, all the inhabitants of the Aleutian Islands were actually evicted to concentration camps. Compare with the same Crimean Tatars who were fed, provided medical assistance, got a job.
  46. +3
    16 May 2016 11: 59
    If Lazarev sang like Orpheus - no one in the jury would say anything bad to him.
    1. +4
      16 May 2016 13: 05
      What yes, then yes ... Filka decided to dump and show-offs in an easy way ...
  47. +6
    16 May 2016 12: 00
    In 2017, Poland could present the song “1943” about the Volyn massacre at Eurovision in Ukraine, the German press writes.
    According to the publication, “if everyone gets the same right, then next year Poland can start with a song that will be called“ 1943 ”and describe the killings of 100 thousand people in Volyn, which Ukraine is eagerly forgotten about,” TASS reports.
    “England can turn the Germans into Coventry bombing anthem; Germany - translate into music night raids on Dresden; Bosnians - write a mournful song about the Srebrenica massacre; Serbia - describe the crimes of Croats during the Second World War; and the Greek performer - to rap about the historical “Ohi” (“No”) to the ultimatum of fascist Italy in 1940, ”the newspaper said.

    http://vz.ru/news/2016/5/16/810635.html
    1. +9
      16 May 2016 13: 09
      With the difference that the Poles and Jews were killed in Volhynia, and the Crimean Tatars were resettled from the Crimea, without infringing on their rights to new places of residence!
  48. +9
    16 May 2016 12: 01
    There is too much attention to some kind of non-cultural competition of world freaks - you just have to boycott it, and those who want to participate must pay their grandmothers for it. And even if there are giraffe-like pig-monkey-dogs defeating, they don’t give a damn about this panopticon! laughing
  49. +7
    16 May 2016 12: 48
    Competitions must be fair otherwise they make no sense! There is no competition in Eurovision - it is a politically engaged and pedarostically rotten event. Participate in this party for Russia
    humiliatingly.
  50. +13
    16 May 2016 13: 25
    Our singer had to sing in Russian about the brutally tortured, betrayed and killed during the years of fascist occupation citizens of the Russian Federation, about their unborn children, about unfulfilled love, ruined and crushed by the boots of traitors and fascists. This is not a confrontation, it is a harsh reality. Only in this way can we survive as a united people in a new battle with fascist Europe! They have already occupied Ukraine. What's next? Again let them go to Moscow ?!
    And then he sings in English, it is not clear about what ... First of all, you must respect yourself. It is a pity that talented people become hostages of mediocrity and frank art swindlers.
    1. 0
      17 May 2016 07: 27
      It wasn’t worth singing about other citizens of the USSR, huh?
  51. +3
    16 May 2016 13: 38
    Quote: Finches
    I don’t even feel like commenting on how clumsily it was done!

    Will there be a next Intervision? After the victory of this girl and the frenzy of victorious euphoria, a sobering came to Ukraine. The country is in a deep financial hole and there is nothing to hold Eurovision with. Kiev wants to hold Eurovision at the expense of the EU http://izvestia.ru/news/ 613744
    http://www.tvc.ru/news/show/id/92285/
    But will the EU want to pay for Intervision in Ukraine?
  52. +3
    16 May 2016 13: 55
    There is an idea for a song for the next Eurovision - we need to send Leshchenko there with the song “Victory Day”, and drive out a dozen T-34s as extras, replaced by “Armats”, as a symbol of the continuity of generations.
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    2. 0
      16 June 2016 21: 11
      Quote: Jagdhund
      There is an idea for a song for the next Eurovision - we need to send Leshchenko there with the song “Victory Day”, and drive out a dozen T-34s as extras, replaced by “Armats”, as a symbol of the continuity of generations.

      In order to force the decaying Europe to shake off all the nonsense imposed from overseas, it is necessary not to sing songs, but to organize another victorious march. And preferably in Berlin as in 1945.
  53. +1
    16 May 2016 14: 22
    What’s strange is that it doesn’t matter who wins. Why is everyone so fussed about this competition? Let at least the Martians. And the result was expected.
  54. +1
    16 May 2016 14: 23
    Manstein (it was under his command that Crimea and Sevastopol were taken) has a little in his memoirs about the Crimean Tatars - the population greeted the German troops as liberators, food was actually purchased from the local population. Some Crimean Tatars volunteered to be guides in the mountainous areas and many surrounded units and partisan detachments were destroyed because of these scoundrels.
    However, Crimean Tatars served in the Red Army, whose families were also repressed with the same brush.
  55. +4
    16 May 2016 15: 16
    Why is everyone so excited about Eurovision? Pale, monotonous songs, little different voices (even women’s from men’s), half-gay appearance of most of the performers. A sad, wretched sight.
    I propose to petition the leadership of the LPR/DPR to award Jamala with the wording “For causing irreparable damage to the budget of Ukraine.” wink
  56. +4
    16 May 2016 15: 21
    From the Internet
  57. +3
    16 May 2016 15: 23
    There was no point in going to this fagot competition. They have their own special art. And ours sent the same one. Among them, he took third place. wassat Well, why are we laying ourselves before this Europe?
  58. +7
    16 May 2016 15: 31
    For the life of me, I don’t understand why, for example, a straight man would take part in a competition - Who can fit the thickest dick in his ass? I don’t perceive this gay vision any differently. Or is the anal Russian establishment still dreaming of being accepted into a friendly gay European family??
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  60. -4
    16 May 2016 16: 05
    Quote: B.T.W.
    Quote: Menke
    And it is unworthy to "be smart" and giggle at the tragedy of an entire people, who have been deported only on ethnic grounds. To indiscriminately accuse an entire people, and even more to punish them - this is fascism, when some nations are exalted, while others are belittled


    And you, in general, are aware that among the Crimean Tatars there are 8 Heroes of the Soviet Union, and among the Tatars more than 160 ?! Before expressing such thoughts, it would not hurt to read the story, especially since there are enough sources.

    Yes, here's one of them. Twice Hero of the Soviet Union Amet Khan Sultan, Crimean Tatar, "Air Lion". The last enemy plane was shot down in the skies of Berlin in April 1945. “For his courage and heroism in the fight against the Nazi invaders, for successfully carrying out 603 combat sorties, for personally shooting down 30 enemy aircraft of various types, for 19 enemy aircraft destroyed in group battles, Comrade Amet Khan Sultan was awarded the title of twice Hero Soviet Union". That is why I believe that the deportation of peoples - Crimean Tatars, Chechens, Kalmyks and others, which took place during the war years - is a great injustice, which cannot be justified by anything, by any military necessity. And therefore, I repeat - it is unworthy to be clever and giggle at the tragedy of an entire people.
  61. +1
    16 May 2016 16: 06
    Honestly, this suck (competition) is not worth such a discussion smile
  62. +2
    16 May 2016 16: 16
    Eurovision is originally a freak competition. So what's the point of taking him even remotely seriously? Our freak earned a whole third place - that's already a result. It would be better if they paid attention to Poly Genova or Iveta Mukuchan - they are attractive women and are worth arguing about. As for the topic of politics, who pays, orders the background. What kind of influence does Russia have in Europe? These are “hot topics”.
  63. 0
    16 May 2016 16: 22
    This is all nonsense - now you can buy another barrel of popcorn and look at how Eurovision 2017 will be organized. Here it will be fun, given that the question will be tied to a lot of money issued on credit and how they will be mastered in state404.

    I do not even exclude the possibility that the organizers themselves will try to overcome the victory in Jamala in favor of at least Australia.
  64. -5
    16 May 2016 16: 26
    Quote: Karlovar
    With the difference that the Poles and Jews were killed in Volhynia, and the Crimean Tatars were resettled from the Crimea, without infringing on their rights to new places of residence!

    They slaughtered the nationalist gangs that served the fascists, as they believed, their opponents, and the native state expelled its citizens, mostly women, old people and children, because the men were at the front at that time. Moreover, without any court or proceedings, only on a national basis. So your comparison is not correct.
  65. +4
    16 May 2016 17: 29
    Jamalka's parents live peacefully in Crimea and do not worry about the meanness of their daughter. And before Eurovision, Jamalka gave most of its concerts in Russia. Maybe we ourselves are to blame for the fact that we step on the same rake every time? You need to be tougher.
  66. +7
    16 May 2016 18: 03
    I agree with him! good
  67. +2
    16 May 2016 18: 47
    And the Japanese need to sing about the genocide of Americans in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
    1. 0
      16 June 2016 22: 29
      Quote: Inferno
      And the Japanese need to sing about the genocide of Americans in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

      They have songs, poems, haiku with waka or tanka, and even films with anime. The Japanese even have a special term "Hibakusha" for people exposed to nuclear explosions.
      https://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/800/bxlu546.jpg
      Nuclear mushroom over Nagasaki
      Does anyone now remember the story of the white cranes? At absolutely any time of the year, children bring bundles of white cranes made of paper to monuments dedicated to the atomic bombings in Japan. They became a symbol of resilience, courage and hope after the world learned of 12-year-old Sadako Sasaki, who died suddenly of leukemia 10 years after the atomic bombing. Until the last hour, the girl was folding cranes out of paper, in the hope that she would recover if she managed to fold exactly a thousand, but unfortunately, white cranes do not cure the consequences of nuclear bombings. Sadako managed to fold only 644 cranes, after which, in October 1955, she died. Her friends finished the rest of the figures. And all this doesn’t touch or bother anyone these days, because the increased attention to this topic casts a shadow on the owners themselves and the celestials from the USA, who are for them the beacons of peace and goodness. But there is something to remember:
      - The bombing of Nagasaki claimed the lives of more than 143 thousand city residents.
      https://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/669/cwdv66.jpg
      As a result of the atomic strike on Hiroshima, according to official data, over 250 thousand people died.
      https://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/478/auzt397.jpg
      According to ITAR-TASS, to date, more than 132 thousand residents of Japan have official certificates of victims of American nuclear bombings. Many point to the fact that the Japanese army was one of the bloodiest executioners of civilians in World War II, but the Americans did not kill war criminals and other soldiers, but civilians. Mostly old people, women and children.
  68. 0
    16 May 2016 19: 20
    But I don’t even understand who is watching this crap! Competition for Bundes housewives! There is zero music, no voices! Rubbish rubbish!!!
  69. 0
    16 May 2016 19: 42
    The most useless activity is watching a pseudo-song competition...
  70. +1
    16 May 2016 20: 42
    About Eurovision
    -in 2017, victory was awarded to fascist collaborators,
    which were the Banderaites, glorified today for past and present atrocities,
    and those Crimean Tatars who were expelled for assisting the Nazis.
    And the judges were also accomplices of fascism.
    And who are the Europeans after this?
    They were the ones who nurtured fascism and opened all roads to these nonhumans in the 40s,
    and the reason for Russophobia is that the West cannot forgive the Russians for their victory over fascism.
    Western Europe gave birth to fascism and will forever remain the champion of fascism.
    What can I say? Didn't finish...
    1. 0
      16 May 2016 20: 49
      Quote: olimpiada15
      About Eurovision
      -in 2017, victory was awarded to fascist collaborators,

      You are apparently a psychic...you can see what will happen in a year.
  71. +1
    16 May 2016 21: 13
    Firstly, it’s high time to revive Intervision as a reasonable alternative to the Euro (f..)vision.
    Secondly, if we can no longer change the location of the next competition, then there is only one way out: “Kyiv is Ours”!
  72. 0
    16 May 2016 21: 18
    I didn’t even want to go into this topic, because... all clear. But I will still express my opinion. Jamala actually won. Good job. She has a voice, a face too, and my congratulations... The question is who lost?
    1. Russia. Well, okay. Lazarev is not God knows what. On the other hand, at least you don’t need to spend money on this g... (2017 competition). Better to build a corvette.
    2. Music and art. Undoubtedly. Pop music, by stretch of the imagination, is also part of world art, although I personally can’t stand it. And they lost because the song that was not the best in terms of composition and performance won. It is a fact.
    3. Eurovision. Totally screwed up. I’m not even commenting, everything is clear to everyone about the political aspect.
    4. Ukraine. There is a need for serious money in the absolute absence of it and the need to maintain security, etc., etc., etc.
    I consider this modest analysis complete.
  73. 0
    16 May 2016 21: 31
    Correctly..
  74. 0
    16 May 2016 21: 42
    Explanatory article Suicide of Rus' is canceled
    http://avega.net/avega/28-raznoe/3504-samoubijstvo-rusi-otmenyaetsya?hitcount=0
  75. 0
    16 May 2016 23: 12
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    From the Russian Federation to Eurovision 2017 the Alexandrov Choir with the song “Victory Day” or the Cossack Choir (conductor Shoigu) with the song

    And I agree with D. Rogozin! Who suggested sending Shnurov to Eurovision 2017! “He won’t win, but he will send you where you need to go!”
  76. 0
    16 May 2016 23: 47
    Folks, isn't there a lot of noise about the competition for the best bearded woman?
  77. 0
    17 May 2016 01: 05
    Why are you paying so much attention to this? I watched this competition with half an eye, I thought, one day a tolerant will appear, he appeared from Israel... Plus a freak from Germany, tolerance was respected. Why even participate there? Nonsense...
  78. +1
    17 May 2016 05: 14
    Quote: Ride78
    study where the goosebumps were

    Did you have goosebumps? Get checked - don't worry, you're sick, I sympathize. Is the audience voting also on the side? And the professional jury gave the victory to Australia.
  79. 0
    17 May 2016 07: 43
    Firstly, the Crimean Tatars were not killed, but resettled. Yes, tough and maybe even cruel. However, the families of those who actually fought the occupiers were spared this fate.

    Firstly, they were not resettled, but DEPORTED. in a few hours. EVERYONE. I don’t know whether the author of the article considers those who fought in the Red Army at that time to be fighters, but their families also suffered this fate.
    On the contrary, it was the Soviet government that accused the Crimean Tatars of collaborating with the Nazis

    EVERYONE! including babies, children, old people. EVERYONE! on a national basis.
  80. 0
    17 May 2016 14: 21
    Vysotsky would not go to Eurovision! We have nothing to do there! To the bastard!
  81. 0
    17 May 2016 15: 11
    Chicherina should be sent to Eurovision 2016 with this song:
  82. 0
    17 May 2016 15: 42
    well actually...
  83. 0
    17 May 2016 16: 24
    The above picture is already circulating on the Internet, only it is signed “Eurovision Winner - 2017” smile
  84. 0
    17 May 2016 16: 59
    Yes, we won twice!
    The first time was when Russia won with a majority of votes.
    The second time was when the responsibility for carrying out this costly and unprofitable action, in a crisis, fell on someone else’s shoulders.
    Everything is fine! We sit on two chairs! laughing

    Lazarev’s number was good, but for his prostitute’s views, he got a minus.
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    lazarev then, that still "cockerel" ...
  85. 0
    17 May 2016 17: 35
    At the next Eurovision competition, a Turkish singer will perform a song about the vile sinking of the Osman Pasha fleet by the aggressor Nakhimov. A Polish rock band will sing a song: “Susanin - u.r.o.d.” And Swedish composers have begun composing a song: “My great-grandfather died near Poltava falling under the savage's buckshot"
  86. 0
    17 May 2016 22: 36
    shit about nothing - we found something to discuss - there’s nothing more to discuss? - I didn’t even read the article or half the comments
  87. 0
    18 May 2016 12: 52
    This “camel” will still bitterly regret and cry from her performance. She, like the last fool, was played out by European and Ukrainian politicians to spite Russia. She still has everything ahead of her. In Russia, no one needs her anymore and her performances have been ordered from us. And for Ukrainians it is like used “rubber product No. 1”. And for the Ukrainian nationalists, even more so, it’s complete hatred. After all, she’s not Ukrainian! And it’s time for our country’s leadership to announce that Russia will no longer perform at Eurovision. The Italians don’t perform and somehow they haven’t lost weight because of it. In general, by and large, ordinary Europeans finally saw with their own eyes that for their rulers they were objects just like this Jamala. So every cloud has a silver lining. But now all this European LGBT will not come to us in Moscow next year, and even at our expense. Let them wave their flags in Kuev if they scrape together money for the next political show.
  88. 0
    16 June 2016 20: 17
    They should not blame Stalin, but should thank him. Look what happened to Nazi collaborators or German civilians in Eastern Europe? In Poland alone, from 4 million people there are only a few hundred thousand left. The same is true in other states, including Romania, which was the most faithful eastern ally of Nazi Germany. And the German Nazis themselves hanged and shot the Crimean Tatars for the brutal murders of the local multinational population of non-Tatar origin, Ukrainians, Russians, Greeks, Romanians and others. If Stalin had not evacuated this frostbitten herd that shed a sea of ​​blood, a couple of years after the liberation of Crimea from fascist occupation, they would have been destroyed by the local population. Although why “would”, this action was organized only in order to prevent illegal reprisals against Nazi minions by flayers. And they killed people with particular cruelty; during the years of occupation, the practice of accusing a Ukrainian or some other family of aiding the partisans was widespread. After which the partisans' accomplices were completely destroyed, both old and young, and the Crimean Tatar informers and slanderers received all their property and property. Often, the Tatars killed such fake accomplices even without a German trial and seized property without permission, and those accused of helping the partisans were boiled alive in cauldrons or skinned and left to die. And there were quite a few Crimean Tatars whom no one deported or condemned anywhere! Those who fought the German Nazis, in the ranks of their multinational people, not only remained heroes and lived quietly in any locality of the USSR of their choice, but also enjoyed remarkable popular respect. By the way, as for the chatter of Jamala and the platypuses from the media, no one evicted the true heroes because they were engaged in party work, but there were only a few of them. Of the more than 20 thousand drafted into the ranks of the Red Army, the majority deserted during the retreat of the 51st army, but already in the first 2 months of the occupation, 22 thousand Crimean Tatars volunteered to join the army of the German Wehrmacht. During the years of occupation, paramilitary units of the Crimean Tatars formed and forcibly hijacked into slavery to work in Germany, groups from the civilian population of Crimea of ​​non-Crimean Tatar nationality, with a total number of 85.447 people. Also, during the years of occupation by the paramilitary units of the Crimean Tatars, 71.921 people were brutally killed and this is only based on proven episodes executed with the participation of “Noise” from the Crimean Tatars, including the murder by brutal methods of about 15.000 civilians from communist families of all genders and ages , in the concentration camp "Red". Just over 140 people passed through the potato town sorting center alone, of which 000 thousand were brutally killed, and 40 were taken to work in Germany, where for one reason or another, according to data from various sources, from half to two thirds died enslaved people. The tragedy of the “Crimean Khatyn” - the Greek village of Laki is also known. On March 100, 000, Crimean Tatar punitive forces burned alive several hundred inhabitants of this village, mostly Greeks and Armenians, most of whom were women, children and old people.
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      16 June 2016 20: 23
      “Partisans who managed to escape from captivity said that the Crimean Tatars, their guards, were distinguished by unheard-of cruelty, as a result of which German soldiers and military personnel were forced to complain about the atrocities of the Crimean Tatars to Berlin, as a result the command of the German Wehrmacht was forced to issue a special circular , which forbade the Crimean Tatars serving in the SS to conduct interrogations on their own - they tortured people so cruelly and sophisticatedly.” The same applies to the number of deportees and those killed during transportation. There is also no need to guess about the number of deportees; it is enough to study the archival documents. In a telegram sent on May 20, 1944 to People's Commissar Lavrentiy Beria by his deputy Bogdan Kobulov, these figures are given: 191 people were evicted. By the way, this document also contains other very interesting figures. Today there is a lot of talk about the repressions to which the Crimean Tatars were subjected en masse, although it is hardly possible to talk about massacres. During the entire “Crimean operation” of 044, 1944 “anti-Soviet elements of Crimean Tatar nationality” were arrested. How much is this, considering that in just the first two months of the occupation, 5989 thousand Crimean Tatars took the oath of allegiance to the Fuhrer? The same applies to inhumane conditions, hunger and increased mortality. All the figures and facts of the liars from among the Crimean Tatars are given from someone’s words and are far-fetched, but why compose if there are real archival documents? For example, paragraph 22-g and Appendix 3 of Resolution No. 1-ss, which indicate that the conditions of detention on the way were as follows. On the way, the settlers had to be provided with hot meals and boiling water; for this, the People's Commissariat of Trade of the USSR allocated products based on the daily norm per person: bread 5859 g, meat and fish 500 g, cereals 70 g, oil 60 g. And this is for traitors yes, accomplices of the mass murderers of the Soviet people, and in wartime... Also, the People's Commissariat of Health of the USSR allocated one doctor and two nurses for each train with special settlers, with an appropriate supply of medicines. After numerous words from liberals about the atrocities of the NKVD, do you really believe that someone would dare to violate the conditions of a special operation under the personal control of Lavrentiy Beria? As for documentary evidence of the atrocities of the Crimean Tatars or data on deportation, this site located in London, Great Britain and being an information server of the national libraries of Europe, has more than enough original documents from both personal correspondence of German soldiers and officers, as well as dry numbers and facts from official report forms:
      http://www.bl.uk/gabriel/
      Precisely because in the West, since 2008, many, and since 2014, the majority of the sane population, prefer to independently search for facts and other real data, this is why this Jamal product has not aroused enthusiastic feelings among the majority of citizens who make up the population of Europe, no matter how they tried to inflate it to PR specialists of the second-hand Ukrainian junta and their Western colleagues of universal proportions. In general, you should listen less and trust the media, and especially biased and paid newspapers or resources, look for information and think for yourself.