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Political speculation and escalation of Russophobia

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Political speculation and escalation of RussophobiaA few years ago, being in the Crimea, I had a chance to go to the Alushta Local History Museum. There is an exhibition dedicated to the Great Patriotic War. Guerrillas and underground fighters killed by fascists look at visitors from photos. Some died in battle, others were brutally tortured in the dungeons of the Gestapo, subjected to terrible torture. Among the dead are girls. There are representatives of the most peaceful professions in this mournful gallery - doctors and nurses.


In all cities that survived the Nazi occupation, there is a martyrch of those who fought against fascism in the underground. But in Alushta history museum of local lore, I remember an important detail - many of the dead partisans and underground fighters were betrayed by traitors - the Crimean Tatars. Unfortunately, this is true, which I, as an internationalist, painfully think about.

But the fact remains that Stalin’s most difficult decision to deport the Crimean Tatars was not made from scratch. And the episodes with the betrayal of the Alushta partisans are only a small part of the crimes committed by those who went over to the side of an external enemy.

At the beginning of 1942, Hitler specifically allowed the Crimean Tatars to serve in his army. In only one small Alushta, an 728 man entered the service in the Wehrmacht. In total, in the Crimea, by the end of 1942, eight Crimean Tatar punitive battalions were formed. The occupation authorities gave the Crimean Tatars considerable privileges: they were forbidden to rob, they were paid for food at the market price (the rest were simply taken away, their arms would reach out). Such conditions could not be provided just like this: it is a reward for active cooperation.

The beautiful faces of the devotees and the murdered Alushta partisans involuntarily remembered me in connection with the excitement around the mournful song "1944". By the way, sung at Eurovision, by chance or not, almost immediately after the 71 anniversary of the Great Victory.

Of course, hurriedly pulled out by the Ukrainian propaganda, the songwriter Jamal will not recall either the fight against fascism, or the people killed because of the treachery. From the very beginning, the goal was different - once again to defame the country that crushed the brown plague of the twentieth century.

“My world was taken from me. I did not have a Fatherland, ”the singer screamed, squeezing a tear from compassionate Europeans. How can you not show sympathy for the tragedy of the unfortunate small people? But then, in the 1944 year, there was a terrible force that took both the world and the Fatherland from almost all European nations. Do not count those whose loved ones were shot, tortured, whose houses were bombed and burned, who were forced to leave their dreams and go to war, so that, perhaps, forever remain on the battlefields.

But there are words in the scandalous song that are somehow not tied to history Crimean Tatars evictions: “When strangers come, they come to your house, they kill you all and say:“ We are not guilty, not guilty ”.

First, the Crimean Tatars were not killed, but resettled. Yes, tough and even maybe cruel. However, the families of those who really fought with the occupiers were freed from this fate. But who now, after a pitiful song, will remember this? But the words "They kill you all" - obviously can not be true in this case.

And did the Soviet troops, who had just liberated the Crimea, could say something like: “We are not guilty”? In no case. On the contrary, it was the Soviet government who accused the Crimean Tatars in collaboration with the fascists. And law enforcement officers, who carried out the most difficult decision of the Soviet leadership, could not say "We are innocent." They had no reason to make excuses.

So, are the words in this song simply “far-fetched”? Or is it a deliberate political provocation, when they allegedly sing about one event, but in fact it is a completely different matter?

As you know, today the Ukrainian junta accuses Russia of “aggression” and “annexation”. Russia is in a position when it has to make excuses. Maydan same regime, with the support of the West continues to commit crimes against civilians in Donbass. And not only the Donbass - in Ukraine after the Maidan coup a real tyranny reigns, suppressing any disagreement.

The result was political speculation on the fate of the very Crimean Tatars, to whom the song “1944” was allegedly devoted. And the Crimean Tatar Jamala took an active part in this cynical speculation.

The strained victory of this song creates the ground for new political speculations. Next year, 2017, Ukraine should adopt Eurovision. Kiev already declares that it wants to do this ... in Sevastopol. This is an absolutely inadequate and unrealistic dream, which, however, can warm up Russophobia in Ukraine (it is unlikely to provoke a real war, but calls for “liberation” of Crimea will intensify).

As a possible venue for "Eurovision" talk about Odessa. True, they prefer to “forget” about the fact that it will be dancing on the ashes of people burned by 2 in May 2014. And this tragedy is unlikely ever to be sung at Eurovision.

There is one more thing. When hosting Eurovision, Ukraine is obliged to accept an artist who will represent Russia. But what if the junta made a “black list” of Russian artists who dared to declare disagreement with it one way or another? Kiev has already hurried to put forward a condition: it must be a person who condemns the "occupation" of the Crimea and supports the so-called "ATO" in the Donbas. Does this condition fit in with Eurovision, which should be out of politics?

It should be ... But after the victory of Jamala, the non-political nature of the competition is already a huge question. Even the declared theme of her song is already connected with politics. Not to mention the subtext, which altogether turns “Eurovision” into a biased political show after the persecution of the country - the winners of fascism.

Now every nation, in theory, should have the right to sing about their sufferings. For example, there is something to sing to the Serbs, who were expelled by NATO from a sacred, historical region - Kosovo and Metohija. Indeed, everything is like in the song of Jamala: they came to someone else’s house, saying: “We are not guilty.”

There is something to sing and artists of Russia. For example, about the sufferings of residents of Donbas cities shelled: Donetsk, Gorlovka, Shakhtersk, Debaltseve, Lugansk and many others ... Or about people burned alive in Odessa. It is enough to veil the words a little - and the organizers should have no reason to find fault: they allowed Jamal ... But, of course, there are reasons: Europe has long been famous for its double standards.

One thing is clear: now, because of the Ukrainian political speculation supported by the West, a competition designed to unite peoples can become a pretext for the escalation of Russophobia, and therefore a new hostility between peoples.

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  1. Renat
    Renat 16 May 2016 06: 16
    +129
    It remains only to find "meldonium" in Lazarev's blood and everything will fall into place.
    1. Teberii
      Teberii 16 May 2016 06: 21
      +7
      They found Povetkin and will deal with him.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 16 May 2016 12: 15
        +51
        lazarev then, that still "cockerel" ...
        1. Alena Frolovna
          Alena Frolovna 16 May 2016 16: 44
          +2
          One thing is clear: now because of Ukrainian political speculation supported by the West, a competition designed to unite nations may become an occasion for the escalation of Russophobia, and - a new hostility between nations.


          The article and the author for these last lines have some fat cons.

          Since when "gay vision"is called to unite peoples ?! And what about that"may be the reason for the escalation of Russophobia"- well, it was necessary to invent something like that, about a meaningless action. It turns out that the lady does not see beyond her nose. And why was it necessary to place this rubbish here.

          And glory to GOD that this infection will once again bypass our country.
          1. Independent
            Independent 17 May 2016 06: 06
            +9
            Quote: Alena Frolovna
            Since when is "gay vision" meant to unite peoples ?!

            Italy missed this show about five times and nothing. Actually, I don’t understand what kind of noise out of nothing. When we begin to respect ourselves, and in ..... i.e. we’ll stop looking into the mouth of this Europe. What problems are few in Russia?
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 17 May 2016 20: 09
              +8
              Thank you Elena Gromova for the article! You have the absolutely correct formulation of the question. I would add one more thing. I think that many will come to this my opinion over time.
              I do not believe that Jamala did not understand that she was deliberately participating in political provocation against the historical truth of the treason of the overwhelming majority of the Crimean Tatars during the Second World War and against Russia, a country in which she hospitably lives with her parents, being a citizen of Ukraine. You just need to expel such enemies of the Russian Federation from the country! Moreover, she is a foreigner. Delov something! What problems could there be if her political action had such a negative, hostile, negative political resonance? During a new war with Russia, she will be the first to soap herself somewhere in the USA or England. The "legs" of her song seem to grow there.
              For example, the Maidan "young lady" with the dream of "lace panties" in the EU and aggressiveness against Russia was not given the job in the Russian Federation, which she was counting on. She still sticks out in Ukraine. And with Jamala everything for Russia is much cooler politically and much more hostile!
              Need to take action. NATO is now threatening Russia with war - and why do we need Jamal in our rear ?!
            2. Old old
              Old old 18 May 2016 00: 58
              0
              Italy missed this show about five times and nothing. Actually, I don’t understand what kind of noise out of nothing. When we begin to respect ourselves, and in ..... i.e. we’ll stop looking into the mouth of this Europe. What problems are few in Russia?

              Information opposition to the demonization of our country should be carried out by any means. The impact of the show on the public is proudly stronger than the dry exchange / economic calculations.
          2. crumb
            crumb 18 May 2016 11: 31
            +1
            Alena to you +, and on minuses do not pay attention YOU RIGHTS!
        2. mihasik
          mihasik 16 May 2016 19: 50
          +13
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          lazarev then, that still "cockerel" ...

          And for the same thing I crammed minuses yesterday))).
          1. CALL.
            CALL. 17 May 2016 04: 52
            +4
            Quote: mihasik
            Although, of course, there are reasons: Europe has long been famous for double standards.

            Double standards, double standards. There is a good RUSSIAN word for this - HYPOCRISY.
            1. Berkut-UA
              Berkut-UA 19 May 2016 03: 13
              +1
              About double standards and a different look.
              Rate the words of the song Jamala (in parentheses is my concept):

              When strangers come ... (in the form of APU)
              They come to your house
              They kill you all and say
              "We are not guilty ... not guilty" (and they say they release ... from whom?)

              Where is your mind?
              Humanity is crying (not only in the Donbass, but also your mothers)
              You think that you are gods, (messengers of Poroshenko and Turchinov)
              but everyone dies,
              do not swallow my soul
              our souls.

              I could not spend my youth there because you took my world (killing my daughter and mother during the shelling of Donetsk)

              We could build a future (without Bandera)
              Where people live and love freely
              Happy times ..

              Where are your hearts?
              Humanity, prosper
              Do you think you are gods
              But people are dying
              Do not swallow my soul
              Our Souls

              I could not spend my youth there because you took my world

              I didn’t have a Fatherland .. (my fatherland is not banderaland)

              So that song is most likely about modern Donbass
          2. Independent
            Independent 17 May 2016 06: 13
            +5
            In Showbiz, I don’t think there are normal people. Well, 0,001%. Maybe. And on the minuses - f. It is not known who put them.
        3. garpastum75
          garpastum75 17 May 2016 14: 58
          0
          The most offensive is that along the way it is really blue
        4. maai
          maai 17 May 2016 16: 54
          0
          Yeah. What a coward! Undergrowth ...
    2. Finches
      Finches 16 May 2016 06: 28
      +88
      Even commentary does not pull, how clumsy it worked! But in Europe, ordinary people do not go far ... you ...! However, now at the next Eurovision song contest, the Germans can sing the song "1944", the French "1814", and the Swedes tighten the ballad about Poltava, where evil Russians came to their homes, Turks, wishing to get into the EU, can bring a hit on the theme: "What a pain! What a pain! Izmail-Suvorov, 5: 0!" ... laughing And then for the first time in the history of Eurovision, four countries will win at once, gaining the same points from an impartial professional jury! laughing
      1. Finches
        Finches 16 May 2016 06: 47
        +9
        More truly 0: 5! laughing
      2. inkass_98
        inkass_98 16 May 2016 07: 03
        +22
        Quote: Finches
        Swedes tighten the ballad of Poltava

        They have already sung, and not bad. But it is unlikely that they will be allowed to enter Eurovision with such songs:

      3. sanja.grw
        sanja.grw 16 May 2016 07: 05
        +6
        However, now at the next Eurovision song contest the Germans can sing the song "1944", the French "1814", and the Swedes tighten the ballad about Poltava,

        But what about the Turks, they forgot about the Turks.
        1. Finches
          Finches 16 May 2016 09: 21
          +3
          I remembered about the Turks! laughing
          1. Apsit
            Apsit 16 May 2016 11: 49
            +7
            The spectators of Europe are for us and this is the main thing! But Kiev zvizdets! According to the rules of the competition, all costs are borne by the host country, and this is millions! Yesterday it was announced that the Russian participant would not be allowed to come to Kiev as a separatist, and this is a scandal! And the main thing is the conflict in the East, it can resume at any moment. And how will Azov react if it does not like the vote?
            1. svd-xnumx
              svd-xnumx 16 May 2016 22: 32
              +3
              The spectators of Europe are for us and this is important! But Kiev is a star! According to the rules of the contest, all expenses are borne by the host country, and this is millions !!
              What’s the question, but do we need it? When Bilan won and the competition was held with us, there was talk of a billion rubles spent. It’s not better to cure sick children with this money, rather than collect SMS
            2. BEECH 1972
              BEECH 1972 16 June 2016 11: 20
              0
              Quote: Apsit
              But Kiev is a star! According to the rules of the competition, all costs are borne by the host country, and this is millions !! Yesterday it was announced that the Russian participant will not be allowed to come to Kiev as a separatist, and this is a scandal!

              But here, not everything is as straightforward as you think. It was not for nothing that Kiev so cordially held a "hey" parade, having assigned four police officers to each gay parader. As a kind of goodwill step in response to a strained and politicized victory. And the fact that a Russian representative will not be allowed to attend the next Eurovision, there will be no tragedy for the ruling representatives of minorities, moreover, it will be just another victory over the evil Kremlin "homophobes". Therefore, if any scandal happens, it will only be in a way that is beneficial for today's Western conductors. Unless, of course, before the next "hey" parade, that is, Eurovision, nothing extraordinary happens.
          2. ALPETSEM
            ALPETSEM 17 May 2016 11: 32
            +1
            Well, the Turks can play there not one song, but an entire album.
        2. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS 16 May 2016 11: 30
          +32
          I didn’t want to comment, but something gripped.
          If we consider the Crimean Tatars, who during the Second World War collaborated with the Nazis from their current positions, it turns out that the Nazis can be equated with ISIS, i.e. to a terrorist-fascist organization, respectively, they must be considered from the point of view of current legislation, as extremist terrorists, and their families, as accomplices to terrorists!
          And what is the punishment under current laws for terrorists?
          That's it!!!
          So what is Comrade. Stalin was wrong ?!
          And what is this jamila whining about?
          1. wax
            wax 16 May 2016 16: 48
            +32
            Stalin was absolutely right. There was a war on the territory of the USSR, there were still many casualties ahead in the war with Nazi Germany, so was it possible to leave the armed fifth pro-fascist column in the rear on the Crimean peninsula, on which the enemy could land a landing in the rear of our troops? Vaughn, the "democratic" States, on the territory of which there was no military action, interned all (!) Japanese, Germans and Italians. In a few days, Stalin liquidated the terrorist enclave behind Soviet lines with his troops. It was a fairly humane operation that ultimately saved the Crimean Tatars. One can apologize that without trial and investigation and not everyone is justified, but guns speak in war, and not the laws of peacetime.
          2. mihasik
            mihasik 16 May 2016 19: 54
            +6
            Quote: PHANTOM-AS
            And what is this jamila whining about?

            Still do not understand?))
            Everything fits into one question: "What about us?"
          3. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 16 May 2016 20: 43
            +4
            Quote: PHANTOM-AS
            And what is this jamila whining about?

            The whole point is in the thoughtfulness of the multi-walk ... Immediately after her "victory", the journalists bombarded her with the question, will there be Gay Vision in Crimea? That is what the whole performance is for.
            And for me, if you shave Conchituvurst, you get Jamal ...
            1. 72jora72
              72jora72 17 May 2016 04: 23
              +2
              And for me, if you shave Conchituvurst, you get Jamal ...
              And if Jamala does not shave for a week ......?
        3. BEECH 1972
          BEECH 1972 16 June 2016 10: 58
          0
          Quote: sanja.grw
          But what about the Turks, they forgot about the Turks.

          Yes, they have not forgotten anything. They even raised this topic twice.
          Quote: Finches
          Turks, wishing to get into the EU, can bring a hit on the theme: "What a pain! What a pain! Izmail-Suvorov, 5: 0! Or rather 0: 5! laughing
      4. BMP-2
        BMP-2 16 May 2016 09: 16
        +16
        Or maybe it's just time to raise the prestige of their contests, instead of running after the European illusions of justice and the ghosts of impartiality? what request
      5. Ride78
        Ride78 16 May 2016 09: 24
        -57%
        It worked clumsily, but if you remove the politics, Jamala has a better song and deserves first place. Lazarev has the usual emasculated popsogon. You have to admit to yourself to learn where the goose bumps were, and where it’s easy - well this is ours.
        1. wasjasibirjac
          wasjasibirjac 16 May 2016 11: 57
          +7
          Quote: Ride78
          You have to admit to yourself to learn where the goose bumps were,
          I have goosebumps from such a nashash. the same pop music, only exploiting a hot topic.
        2. DEfindER
          DEfindER 16 May 2016 15: 21
          +17
          Quote: Ride78
          Jamala’s song is better and worthy of the first place. Lazarev has a regular emasculated popsogon

          Yeah, only Lazarev’s first place in the vote by a decent margin, it’s clear that the pop, but the pop is of high quality, is made at the highest level. What’s interesting is the incomprehensible jury that appeared this year, why in most countries it gave us the lowest score, unlike viewers, i.e. it does not represent its own people, but is apparently purely the leadership of all this circus with Eurovision ..
        3. yehat
          yehat 16 May 2016 16: 47
          +6
          many Ukrainians and most Europeans rated Lazarev to the maximum.
          no matter how you name-calling his performances, people really liked
          But Jamala, with completely politicized and historically false howls, ruined my mood completely. Maybe she tried, but this can not be done at the Eurovision Song Contest.
          not sincere emotions about the events to which she referred were particularly touched. Hypocrisy, cynicism, bigotry.
        4. Shpagolom
          Shpagolom 16 May 2016 17: 41
          +1
          ... strange, BUT but the allegedly clumsy work of Lazarev by bookmakers was rated higher than the song of Jamala, this does not mean anything to you, huh?
        5. Alexy
          Alexy 16 May 2016 18: 49
          +5
          One can argue about tastes and musical preferences for a long time. The article is not about that. Just a music contest turned into a political scene. Well, the Crimean Tatars certainly suffered. Well, they have long been rehabilitated. And this girl generally has little to do with Crimea. Born in Central Asia, studied in Ukraine. The fact that her father is a Crimean Tatar does not give her the right to consider Crimea his home.
        6. SlavaP
          SlavaP 16 May 2016 21: 09
          +1
          And here's what, dear: at this "competition" besides Russia, there were great songs by performers from Australia, Poland, Austria, Sweden, Bulgaria and many others!
          1. Alexdark
            Alexdark 17 May 2016 23: 21
            +1
            Australia doesn’t count at all. At the European competition, a Korean woman from Australia sings. What kind of absurdity?
        7. 72jora72
          72jora72 17 May 2016 04: 45
          +3
          Lazarev is an ordinary emasculated popsogon. You have to admit to yourself to learn where the goose bumps were, and where it’s easy - well this is ours.
          Eurovision is just notpoliticized(even the charter of the competition says this) a popular music competition. And about "goose bumps" ...... we can sing about the ashes of Khatyn, about the villages of Poland, Ukraine, Belarus destroyed by Bandera, about the people killed by "Galichina" in France, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia (yes, yes, these freaks were involved in punitive operations against civilians throughout Europe) ........... well, or about the House of Trade Unions, or the murdered children of Donbass.
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      6. Belgorod
        Belgorod 16 May 2016 11: 16
        +17
        From the Russian Federation to Eurovision 2017 Alexandrov Choir with the song "Victory Day" or the Cossack Choir (conductor Shoigu) with the song "Our Cossacks Are Going Around Berlin"
      7. AlexSK
        AlexSK 16 May 2016 12: 45
        +34
        Have you really decided to discuss this topic here? How can you watch this degenerative under-competition in general, let alone listen to it? And seriously discuss this when such a creature as Conchita Wurst wins there. This whole competition is another propaganda and the imposition of Western values. No thanks, I'd rather listen to Peter Ilyich.

        Or from a foreign one.
        1. plebs
          plebs 17 May 2016 02: 09
          +2
          How can you watch this degenerative under-competition in general, let alone listen to it?
          And all the more to participate, thank you need to say Ukrainians! If Lazarev won, we had to threaten another billion to conduct this squalor!
    3. razmik72
      razmik72 16 May 2016 06: 29
      +32
      Quote: Renat
      It remains only to find "meldonium" in Lazarev's blood and everything will fall into place.

      Europe is like that. They forbade the Armenian singer to show the Karabakh flag, but Jamale can sing such songs. One Roman sentence comes to mind:
      "What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull."
    4. atalef
      atalef 16 May 2016 07: 07
      +66
      Quote: Renat
      It remains only to find "meldonium" in Lazarev's blood and everything will fall into place.

      My opinion is, why pay attention to the Eurovision Song Contest? It has long turned into a politicized show. absolutely divorced from reality.
      Yesterday, for the sake of interest, I watched the 3 winners.
      Jamil generally sucks - why the hell to sing political songs
      Australia? So, a kangaroo scare, in general, what Australia does in Eurovision.
      Lazarev's song was certainly the best. Undoubtedly (from my point of view)
      Well, what about Eurovision?
      Dzhamilya divorced Ukraine to grandmas, her song will be forgotten today. and the money for Eurovision in Kiev will be collected by new taxes from the population.
      They will remember her deportation and Stalin and Tatars. laughing
      1. aleks_29296
        aleks_29296 16 May 2016 09: 08
        +29
        Jamil generally sucks


        Barrymore, and what is this terrible howl in the swamps, is it really the Baskerville dog again.
        No sir, this is Jamala performing at Eurovision.
      2. tomket
        tomket 16 May 2016 09: 50
        +6
        Quote: atalef
        It has long turned into a politicized show. absolutely divorced from reality.
        Yesterday, for the sake of interest, I watched the 3 winners.
        Jamil generally sucks - why the hell to sing political songs
        Australia? So, a kangaroo scare, in general, what Australia does in Eurovision.

        In general, according to the results of the voting of the "professional" jury, it was clear that Europe gave preference to the Korean woman from Australia at the European song contest. Well, the second place is naturally Jamalia. And then a thought arises. Tolley wanted to float the competition to Australia, so as not to spend money on it, or the problem of refugees is not enough for them. Next year, the Negro from Taiwan will probably win.
        1. BEECH 1972
          BEECH 1972 16 June 2016 11: 49
          0
          Quote: tomket
          Next year, the Negro from Taiwan will apparently win.

          Fu sir, aren’t you ashamed to argue so politically? What kind of Europe are you talking about? If for a long time there has been no Europe, nor Australia, nor Japan, much less Taiwan or South Korea. There is a conglomeration of oligarchic structures of a group of vassal states concentrated in a single economic and political zone under the control of the United States. Because the presence of an extraneous state from another continent in a narrowly continental competition was met so passively and even I would say joyfully. Therefore, already at the next competition anyone can appear, at least a black man from Taiwan, even an Afro-Chinese from a farmosa.
      3. yehat
        yehat 16 May 2016 16: 50
        +1
        I’m not hurt that Lazarev was lowered. He earned the respect of the Europeans in the case, and that’s enough. It offends me that they are imposing such a false idol like Jamil or Conchita. This is not just not like it, but really enrages.
        1. magosvel
          magosvel 16 May 2016 23: 06
          +1
          It's simple, geysoyuz, once again showed its complexity.
          And the viewer made his choice.
          1. BEECH 1972
            BEECH 1972 16 June 2016 11: 51
            0
            Quote: magosvel
            It's simple, geysoyuz, once again showed its complexity.

            You probably wanted to say confusion?
    5. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 16 May 2016 07: 46
      +35
      It remains only to find "meldonium" in Lazarev's blood

      Come on, only if he has one. The worst would not have happened
    6. Silhouette
      Silhouette 16 May 2016 07: 54
      +57
      I do not understand the enthusiasm about Lazarev
      1. insular
        insular 16 May 2016 08: 14
        -3
        I see nothing terrible in his words. Russia is different from Europe and other ghettos with clearly dictated opinions and punishments for dissent. Here, everyone has the right to an opinion if this opinion does not offend the rest.
        If you do not understand the difference between these words and statements of the same Makarevich, then for me it is somehow even more strange ...

        The fact that he publicly expressed a not popular idea is his right and his responsibility. Let it not be surprised then that people do not go to the concert.

        But his number on the Euro-matinek was objectively stronger than those who took their places in front of him and his attitude towards Crimea does not change the fact that he was condemned for geopolitical reasons. And this is precisely what causes a public outcry, and not he himself as the singer of "Lazarev".
        1. Al1977
          Al1977 16 May 2016 10: 05
          +10
          Quote: insular
          I see nothing terrible in his words. Russia is different from Europe and other ghettos with clearly dictated opinions and punishments for dissent. At us, everyone has the right to an opinion

          Seriously ?????)))) Tell Makarevich. And is not involved in the RBC Kremlin?
          Citizen, you definitely live in Russia and were not born yesterday. Or does the desire to overpower the desire to objectively look at things?
          1. wasjasibirjac
            wasjasibirjac 16 May 2016 12: 01
            +6
            Quote: Al1977
            Seriously ?????)))) Tell Makarevich.
            Makarevich began not only to express his opinion, but also to teach others. perhaps it was for imposing his opinion as the only correct one that paid.
          2. Zhar2012
            Zhar2012 16 May 2016 14: 23
            +7
            Makarovich is still that mu..k.
        2. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 16 May 2016 11: 58
          +16
          Quote: insular
          ..his room at the Euro-match was objectively stronger than those who took places in front of him
          Yes you? In my opinion, at Eurovision, in honor of golly pop with one-day songs, and comparing their merits is like comparing sorts of shit. In general, this so-called. "Competition" can be called "musical" only with a very rich imagination.
          Quote: insular
          ..condemned him for geopolitical reasons
          Yeah. And even the powerful deflection about the "Ukrainian Crimea" did not count. Let's cry over the bitter fate of Seryozhenka - the great singer with our mouths. Ugh, dirty trick.
          1. sherp2015
            sherp2015 16 May 2016 13: 30
            +7
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            Yes you? In my opinion, at Eurovision, the honorable pop-song is honored with one-day songs and comparing their virtues is the same as comparing crap varieties.


            )))))))))) +++++++++ !!!!
            Nothing to supplement, just like an apple!
        3. RBLip
          RBLip 16 May 2016 16: 43
          +4
          Quote: insular
          I see nothing terrible in his words.

          and I do not see. he looks like this kid in his own words - he will grow up, understand wink
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      3. Finches
        Finches 16 May 2016 09: 23
        +13
        That's right - if you're a bugger, then not only in bed, but, most likely, in life ... laughing
        1. Aleksandr1959
          Aleksandr1959 16 May 2016 11: 50
          +25
          That's right - if you're a bugger, then not only in bed, but, most likely, in life

          All right. Like that.
          1. Victor Demchenko
            Victor Demchenko 16 May 2016 20: 51
            +4
            if this is a statement about Lazarev, then to the point! good
      4. sherp2015
        sherp2015 16 May 2016 13: 27
        +1
        Quote: Silhouette
        Silhouette (3) Today, 07:54 ↑ New
        I do not understand the enthusiasm about Lazarev

        Of course, for Lazarev Crimea is not Russia!
        After all, the Zionists planned to turn Crimea into their autonomy.
        Yes, Stalin saw through their plan in time.
        And for this he was probably poisoned
        1. BEECH 1972
          BEECH 1972 16 June 2016 12: 00
          0
          Quote: sherp2015
          Yes, Stalin on time [b] [saw through their plan / b]. And for this he was probably poisoned

          If you bite the plan, then you will be poisoned without additional poisoning. That is why smart people smoke a plan and not bite.
      5. Runx135
        Runx135 16 May 2016 14: 19
        +3
        Serezhenka, dear ... Forgive me please ... Catch a tomato !!!
      6. Atomist
        Atomist 16 May 2016 17: 36
        +5
        I agree. The cap is full, a citizen of the world but not Russia.
      7. Alexy
        Alexy 16 May 2016 18: 56
        +2
        And there are no enthusiasms. Just for three days in a row, this euro vision does not leave the front pages of most information resources. It’s necessary to somehow react)))
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    8. Deniosf
      Deniosf 16 May 2016 08: 27
      +5
      They will not touch Lazarev! He said in an interview on dill TV that he did not consider Crimea a part of Russia!
      1. Axis
        Axis 16 May 2016 09: 47
        +4
        Not a fan of Lazarev, but:
        “The fact is that from an hour-long conversation on this topic and discussions on the relations between Russia and Ukraine, an anti-Russian interview was suddenly taken and cut. Mounting gluings are visible there. It was unpleasant for me ... ”, he said shortly after the interview came out in an interview with reporters
        1. BEECH 1972
          BEECH 1972 16 June 2016 12: 05
          0
          Quote: Axis
          suddenly they took and cut an anti-Russian interview. Mounting gluings are visible there. It was unpleasant for me..., he said shortly after the interview came out in an interview with reporters

          If it was really unpleasant for him, then he would not have spoken with the same mouth that he sings about the negative reaction of "Russian fans". And upon returning to Russia, at least I would have made an apology and refutation. He considers himself neither a citizen nor a patriot. And to understand this, you just need to glance at his entire repertoire. hi
    9. siberalt
      siberalt 16 May 2016 12: 44
      +2
      If what to look for at Lazarev, then perhaps in smears laughing
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 16 May 2016 19: 23
        +1
        Quote: siberalt
        If what to look for at Lazarev, then perhaps in smears laughing

        I respect professionals.
        1. BEECH 1972
          BEECH 1972 16 June 2016 12: 16
          0
          Quote: siberalt
          If what to look for at Lazarev, then perhaps in smears

          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          I respect professionals.

          What an interesting dialogue you have got, gentlemen. lol
    10. Achilles
      Achilles 16 May 2016 14: 24
      +4
      It would be nice if ours came up with a song where the words said that the Crimean Tatars were deported due to cooperation with the Nazis and that partisans were brutally killed through their veins and that would be a good answer to these freaks
    11. max702
      max702 16 May 2016 18: 43
      +12
      To begin with, this contest is disgusting to me! am And categorically incomprehensible fetish participation in it! Apparently high-ranking gays in the government and our mass media are bohemian, he is very fond and prestigious .. BUT for me this is a wretched mediocre action in no way related to art .. Even the fact that in the entire history of this ... has not been fulfilled not a single hit world scale (ABBA cannot be recalled) I consider Russia's participation in this mediocre lewdness a SHAME! It's time to stop this sabbath, and not to remember it anymore, it is better to spend the money allocated for participation in it, as our liberals like to say on "children and pregnant pensioners", that's for sure there will be more benefits .. And the current participant is something- then something, and his statements should be considered by the prosecutor's office in the light of calls for the collapse of our state .. It's time to consider the article on deprivation of citizenship and expulsion of these scum from our country! am
      1. 2ez
        2ez 17 May 2016 10: 12
        0
        ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU !!! In an extreme case, to send there collectives like "Buranovskiye Babushki", I say without any sense about this, they at least sincerely sang! There is no point in investing money in this project ... And in no case should it be carried out in Russia! let Geyrope be pleased ...
    12. kos2910
      kos2910 17 May 2016 05: 24
      +1
      It is clear that the competition is biased. But the result is wonderful! Even suspicion plays into the hands of GDP :). Lazarev was given the right ride - he is still a liberal, but how will the Svidomites get out on May 9, 2017? Moreover, if they have enough brains to hold a competition in Odessa. And how the local Natsiks will be glad to come in large numbers of Eurogey! And we need to send the choir of Alexandrov to the competition with the song "Get up and huge ..."! How happy everyone will be!
  2. sanja.grw
    sanja.grw 16 May 2016 06: 20
    +37
    Next Eurovision
    1. I am Groot
      I am Groot 16 May 2016 06: 58
      +4
      I think it is correct that Ukraine won the Eurovision. All of Europe and the whole world speaks of Ukraine, which rebelled against corruption and against Russia. let them go to Ukraine and let them see what they have achieved during this time. Once they came to Ukraine, there will be something to compare. I hope that after Ukraine Eurovision will be in Russia.
      1. sanja.grw
        sanja.grw 16 May 2016 07: 03
        +40
        I hope that after Ukraine Eurovision will be in Russia.

        Her, we don’t need this booth
        1. Silhouette
          Silhouette 16 May 2016 08: 03
          +26
          Finland, at the 2016 vision, was represented (unsuccessfully, true) by singer Sandya.
          Kickboxer and, as is customary here, a lesbian. A child of a native Finn who converted to Judaism ("as he considered it the most correct religion") and nurses of Indian origin from distant Guyana. The Indo-Finnish woman herself also professes Judaism and spends the lion's share of the time in Israel.

          Israel was represented by Hasid-stylist Howi Star (Hovav Seculets).
          In April he was "humiliated" by Russian border guards at the airport: at border control in Moscow, "" Russian border guards began to laugh at his appearance and clothes, and also tore the singer's passport. According to him, for some time he was not allowed to enter Russia. “I don’t know, maybe they did it because I’m a homosexual, because of the way I dress or because of my makeup,” he said.

          From France - Israeli singer Amir Khalifa Hedider Haddad, a Tunisian-Moroccan Jew who began his creative career in the synagogue choir.
          From Sweden - British-Nigerian footballer France Osifuh Yeppsson Wall.
          From San Marino - Turkish producer, showman and dentist Ahmet Serhat Hajypashalyoglu.
          From Malta - one of the leaders of the local LGBT movement Ira Losko.

          A solid homosexual delegation from Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, pop homosexuals from Denmark with Great Britain and Beatleman homosexuals from the Netherlands, a former member of the trashy Westlife boy band from Ireland, a South Korean singer from Australia, a certain Dutch Canadian from Switzerland, a young vegan anime from Germany , a "rocker" by the name of Shpak from Poland, four Georgians with the original name "Young Georgian Lolitaz" ...
          1. Ride78
            Ride78 16 May 2016 09: 26
            +8
            And Lazarev in your real straight?) Well, just wondering how you think.
            1. Silhouette
              Silhouette 16 May 2016 09: 43
              +8
              Fagot he's over
              1. Karlovar
                Karlovar 16 May 2016 11: 45
                +1
                As a performer, to put it mildly, not a genius .... A whole bunch of people at the contest abruptly sang him, except for Jamala, a Latvian and a fat aunt from Finland ... For example, I liked the Pole more as I sang ...
                1. Obscurantist sobs
                  Obscurantist sobs 18 May 2016 15: 16
                  0
                  Ha!
                  Because he sang a green-eyed taxi ...
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          2. wasjasibirjac
            wasjasibirjac 16 May 2016 12: 05
            +5
            conclusion - it is necessary to oblige Valuev to accept Judaism and send to ukroyverovlenie with a song during which the jury beat? laughing
          3. King, just king
            King, just king 16 May 2016 12: 34
            +4
            Class! I mean the fact-finding work. Eurovision ... I remember there Borisovna was lowered below the city sewer. And to act in such a company, so in general. "Do not communicate with fagots, do not even stand by your side ever"!
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      2. Winnie76
        Winnie76 16 May 2016 09: 17
        +2
        Chota, I doubt that Ukraine will live to see the next Eurovision. Will have to go to Odessa People's Republic
        1. Al1977
          Al1977 16 May 2016 11: 55
          +2
          Quote: Winnie76
          Chota, I doubt that Ukraine will live to see the next Eurovision. Will have to go to Odessa People's Republic

          I’m ready to bet you 1000 euros that it will survive. In a personal email, I'm quite serious. We can even raise rates. Ready ??? Or Troll ???
      3. Karlovar
        Karlovar 16 May 2016 11: 23
        +2
        I agree with you! Maybe that was the calculation! And from Europe! Poroshenko, presumably, is very "grateful" to Jamala and tears his hair in all places. Awarding "first place" to a frankly sucking song and performer looks more like a compulsion to peace! Think for yourself under what conditions it will be possible to hold Eurovision with dignity ???? !!!! Not to mention the fact that stealing in the coming year will have to be tied, although it is not real! Poroshenko has 2 options: 1. Make peace in the country (execute Minsk2), order, security, clean up the Natsiks, remove from circulation a bunch of unaccounted for trunks, spit out some of the stolen goods or rip off the last skin from the population (with subsequent special "gratitude" from the people) to organization of the competition .... otherwise who will go to them for the competition? .... 2. Leave everything as it is in the previous course, completely disgrace yourself next year (either many will not come, or will come and see everything with their own eyes). ....
      4. PROXOR
        PROXOR 16 May 2016 11: 32
        +5
        Nah we do not need this Eurovision.
      5. ramzes1776
        ramzes1776 16 May 2016 12: 47
        +4
        In general, I am glad that this "show" will take place not here in Russia, and in general it is high time to tie up with this geyrovision !!!
    2. BEECH 1972
      BEECH 1972 16 June 2016 12: 27
      0
      Quote: sanja.grw
      Next Eurovision

      You are like him, Nostradamus, or at least Wolf Messing!
  3. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 16 May 2016 06: 22
    +49
    Susanna (Jamala) is not a Crimean Tatar, she is half Armenian (by mother), the family moved to Crimea, near Alushta, in 1989. from Kyrgyzstan. I wonder why she did not want to sing about the genocide of the Armenian people, because this topic is also close to her ?!
    1. brasist
      brasist 16 May 2016 06: 52
      +16
      Well, how can you sing about the Armenian Genocide, because her sister is married in Turkey, and this may affect not more than conscience but more than complicated ...
    2. Silhouette
      Silhouette 16 May 2016 09: 46
      +2
      Crimean Tatars know that Jamala is from Crimean gypsies.
      1. BEECH 1972
        BEECH 1972 16 June 2016 13: 17
        0
        Quote: Silhouette
        Crimean Tatars know that Jamala is from Crimean gypsies.

        And the Crimean gypsies, in turn, know that she is from a mess.
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    4. Karlovar
      Karlovar 16 May 2016 11: 40
      +1
      Everything is very simple and corny, who pays, TOT and orders music ...
      1. Al1977
        Al1977 16 May 2016 13: 30
        +1
        Quote: Karlovar
        Everything is very simple and corny, who pays, TOT and orders music ...

        Captain obvious.
    5. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac 16 May 2016 12: 07
      +4
      Quote: B.T.W.
      I wonder why she did not want to sing about the genocide of the Armenian people, because this topic is also close to her ?!
      Turkey’s genocide, therefore, it’s not interesting for the geyrop. now, if the Russians were noted in this, such songs were inspired. am
    6. BEECH 1972
      BEECH 1972 16 June 2016 13: 16
      0
      Quote: B.T.W.
      I wonder why she did not want to sing about the genocide of the Armenian people, because this topic is also close to her ?!

      Because she doesn’t give a damn about all Armenians, Kyrgyz, Ukrainians, Crimean Tatars, and even more so Russians. She, like Serozha Lazarev from the breed of new liberals, that is, liberalists. And this species of creatures has no homeland or any national pride and values. Their god and ideal is money, and the promised land of the United States, everything else is only temporary means to achieve the goal, earn more wealth and dump your dreams on the ground.
  4. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 16 May 2016 06: 25
    +24
    survived ... now some kind of show will influence politics .... isn't it too important to attach too much importance to the media to all kinds of "shows", creating an unhealthy excitement around these "events? on the same Eurovision" everyone "..." is uprooted as soon as possible, and the "trances" are bearded, and the nationalists ... and God knows who else! and if our country is so correct, so Orthodox. why the hell are our "stars" going there? ah, yes ... glory , tours, babos ... well, yes, yes ... ugh, on this "problem" ...
    1. Starik72
      Starik72 16 May 2016 23: 26
      0
      Andrey Yuryevich. I completely agree with you, one hundred percent !!! Sincerely.
  5. c3r
    c3r 16 May 2016 06: 25
    +15
    Let them shove their fagging in .. rtmon. Tired of this incomprehensible sponsorship of either PACE or this under-festival. Enough to substitute ears under their asses that look very like mouths!
  6. Valery Valery
    Valery Valery 16 May 2016 06: 27
    +14
    Stalin was a statesman !! Government solutions are not always popular, but they are necessary to save the country! And the fact that there was mass betrayal is a fact.
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    1. sanja.grw
      sanja.grw 16 May 2016 06: 46
      +25
      The popular vote showed everything, and the fact that the so-called representatives of the jury arranged there
      1. brasist
        brasist 16 May 2016 07: 02
        +5
        Danish judge mistakenly gives 12 points to Jamale at Eurovision
        x-true.info - According to media reports, a jury member stated that Ukraine should not have received points from Denmark. Eurovision jury member Hilda Hake, who was responsible for scoring, made a mistake in calculating points and put Ukraine in first place, giving her 12 points, although Jamala should have been left without glasses. Read more ...
  8. meriem1
    meriem1 16 May 2016 06: 31
    +14
    Quote: B.T.W.
    Susanna (Jamala) is not a Crimean Tatar, she is half Armenian (by mother), the family moved to Crimea, near Alushta, in 1989. from Kyrgyzstan. I wonder why she did not want to sing about the genocide of the Armenian people, because this topic is also close to her ?!


    Song about the Armenian Genocide is impossible to sell profitably !!! That’s the whole answer! And in this situation, the Armenian woman from Jamal is like a bullet from shit. Selling and lying on through.
    PS Especially distinguished Denmark ... cowardly moving out of the topic. We were mistaken, they say. Just a laugh ...
  9. SOF
    SOF 16 May 2016 06: 33
    +3
    sanja.grw (5) RU Today, 06:20 New
    Next Eurovision

    OFF !!!
  10. ivagulin
    ivagulin 16 May 2016 06: 36
    +8
    it was necessary to send a cord
    1. razmik72
      razmik72 16 May 2016 06: 45
      +3
      Quote: ivagulin
      it was necessary to send a cord

      The cord there would put everyone on their ears smile , these eurosec wassat, as comrade Khrushchev used to say, he would show them "Kuzma's mother" bully wassat
      1. BEECH 1972
        BEECH 1972 16 June 2016 13: 22
        0
        Quote: razmik72
        , as comrade Khrushchev used to say, he would show them "Kuzma's mother"

        Rather, he would have shown them than Kuzma’s mother.
    2. sanja.grw
      sanja.grw 16 May 2016 06: 48
      +12
      it was necessary to send a cord

      As Rogozin tweeted - Win does not win, for that he will send everyone an erotic route
      1. TOR2
        TOR2 16 May 2016 11: 19
        +1
        Yes, the cord is a worthy candidate for the next Eurovision. Red Mold is good as a fallback. Compositions "Cossack" or "Eastern lubricants" will just be the theme for the heroes. laughing
  11. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 16 May 2016 06: 37
    +13
    Timely Article! Thank!!!!!! very relevant. why do we need this Eurovision ?????? can send to hell ????
  12. fleet
    fleet 16 May 2016 06: 39
    +6
    To sing such a song, you must first betray your people!
  13. midivan
    midivan 16 May 2016 06: 40
    +38
    that’s all, but not what kind of politics, it’s all about the photo lol ...................... PS already got so much outskirts and a geyropa that I already understood the meaning-sits in the liver
  14. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 16 May 2016 06: 40
    +11
    I believe that a future competition should be boycotted, with the wording: They are not able to provide security. And it will be quite objective.
    By the way, there are really many questions for the future organization of the event ...
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 16 May 2016 11: 52
      +1
      And these issues, in the process, are unsolvable .....
    2. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac 16 May 2016 12: 11
      +1
      Quote: Observer 33
      By the way, there are really many questions for the future organization of the event ...
      well, Ukrainians decided to cheat, have already voiced a proposal to hold a contest in the Crimea, and that, because Ukrainians believe that the Crimea is Ukrainian. fool angry
  15. strelets
    strelets 16 May 2016 06: 42
    +12
    Those thanks to whom Ukraine won probably did not expect such a trick themselves. Let them now try to hold a contest in a poor country, where the Nazis are in power and where there is a civil war.
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 16 May 2016 11: 52
      0
      Most likely, this was the calculation.
  16. Zomanus
    Zomanus 16 May 2016 06: 43
    +8
    And politics is everywhere now. The same scandal with meldonium ...
    Those things that are created to unite people and nations,
    now used as a weapon in the confrontation,
    to humiliate, put some participants in the position of outcasts.
    Well, actually the same Eurovision is in danger of becoming a small-town song and dance contest,
    in which only "friends" are allowed to participate.
  17. Igor39
    Igor39 16 May 2016 06: 45
    +33
    Translation of Jamala's song: "We served Hitler, zigged, but the communists suddenly came and exiled us."
  18. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 16 May 2016 06: 47
    +17
    Comrades! Can leave this past "Pidrovision". We didn’t manage to win honestly, although we won. As for Russia, we have more than enough victories in the past, in the present, and in the future, I am sure. Well, think of not coming to us homosexuals and bearded women next year, not a great loss! And judging by the voting of spectators in Europe, there are many adequate.
  19. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 May 2016 06: 54
    +11
    The frankly insolent persecution of Russia in all directions is no longer even masked. The West believes that the bolder and more outspoken, the more effective. It is time for us to begin to conduct tougher propaganda, not looking back at the "limits of decency", which are not observed by the West.
  20. ovod84
    ovod84 16 May 2016 06: 55
    +8
    On the one hand, it’s good that the wild won, let them now spend it, they have a lot of money. Dzhemilev and Poroshenko will be thrown off.
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 16 May 2016 11: 54
      0
      Do not fold! They will offer the people to "chip in" ...
  21. thinker
    thinker 16 May 2016 06: 58
    +15
    ... a competition designed to unite peoples can become an occasion for the escalation of Russophobia, and therefore a new hostility between peoples.

    Controversial conclusion, contrary to all Russophobia in the viewers' vote, Lazarev No. 1.
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    2. Belgorod
      Belgorod 16 May 2016 12: 12
      +2
      And to dance a platoon of "Polite People"
      1. midivan
        midivan 16 May 2016 18: 25
        +5
        Quote: Belgorod
        And to dance a platoon of "Polite People"

        No. they are not capable of organizing, dancing, by their nature wink
  22. ImPerts
    ImPerts 16 May 2016 07: 02
    +11
    The result was political speculation on the fate of the very Crimean Tatars, to whom the song “1944” was allegedly devoted. And the Crimean Tatar Jamala took an active part in this cynical speculation.


    We are waiting for the song "1941" from the Germans, about how they were cruelly deceived in the east, in the vast expanses of the USSR. Before that, everything was fair, they came, everyone gave up and they won ...
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 16 May 2016 11: 58
      +2
      From the Poles-1612, from the Swedes-1709, from the French-1814, from the Turks, a bunch of dates ...
  23. ed1967ward
    ed1967ward 16 May 2016 07: 07
    +2
    Ukraine, even before the finals, languished, they say if the Russians win, we will not go to them next year ...
  24. olegkrava
    olegkrava 16 May 2016 07: 15
    +2
    Quote: B.T.W.
    Susanna (Jamala) is not a Crimean Tatar, she is half Armenian (by mother), the family moved to Crimea, near Alushta, in 1989. from Kyrgyzstan. I wonder why she did not want to sing about the genocide of the Armenian people, because this topic is also close to her ?!

    She is the same Armenian as I am a Spanish hedgehog. A Tatar like me Volgograd gopher. HE IS SHELTER!
    Yes, and I ask the Mirotvorey website, give the phone modmmm. I'll call you on Thursday.
  25. Darkness
    Darkness 16 May 2016 07: 22
    +10
    Lazarev in 2014 announced that Crimea is Ukraine and he will never recognize it as Russian. Those. He is for the fascists-Bandera. I'm even glad that he did not win.
  26. qwert111
    qwert111 16 May 2016 07: 33
    +3
    Quote: brasist
    Danish judge mistakenly gives 12 points to Jamale at Eurovision
    x-true.info - According to media reports, a jury member stated that Ukraine should not have received points from Denmark. Eurovision jury member Hilda Hake, who was responsible for scoring, made a mistake in calculating points and put Ukraine in first place, giving her 12 points, although Jamala should have been left without glasses. Read more ...


    In, and I am the same, they are there in Europe altogether off the coils, they cannot even give normally, but if they give it by mistake! What kind of people?
  27. Denis DV
    Denis DV 16 May 2016 07: 35
    +5
    Hitler's pre-suicidal song performed by Jamala won wassat
  28. Flinky
    Flinky 16 May 2016 07: 37
    +5
    Why is everyone so excited about this homosexual get-together called "Eurovision"? In a couple of days, they will forget that it actually existed.
  29. Riv
    Riv 16 May 2016 07: 41
    +1
    People, I don’t understand what you are arguing about. What was the song about? Not about Ukraine, not about Russia, not even about Crimea. About the Crimean Tatars who lived at that time and which almost all have already died. A sad song at the wake. Will you be outraged that someone will sing about the mom’s army that died on the Kulikovo field? Or about the genocide of the inhabitants of Korosten, which was arranged by Princess Olga? Hardly.

    Well, let him sing. Cases of bygone days, the legends of antiquity deep. Especially: Eurovision. This one, even without a beard ...
  30. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 May 2016 07: 58
    +15
    From my point of view, quite rightly the Crimean Tatars, as well as the Chechens and some others, were resettled. There was a war, and it was simply dangerous to have potential saboteurs in their rears who massively collaborated with the Nazis. What appeared in Western Ukraine, in Poland and the Baltic states.
    And there is nothing about this about the semi-Armenian howling all over Europe. They were not moved to concentration camps, not to gas chambers! And they could have gone to Kolyma ...
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 16 May 2016 12: 11
      +7
      With the Far East, Soviet Koreans were resettled in Kazakhstan ... For the reason, so that Japanese spies, saboteurs had no one to mow under ... The decision of a statesman! But in the civil war in the Far East in battles against the Japanese invaders, the Korean partisan detachments were extraordinarily resilient, they did not surrender to the Japanese, they preferred death to captivity ...
      1. Basil50
        Basil50 16 May 2016 14: 21
        +1
        Koreans were resettled by families to save from the very possible destruction. Subsequent history has confirmed concerns.
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  31. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 16 May 2016 08: 06
    +5
    Nothing surprising, I would have sung about "Debaltsevsky Cauldron" (who in Europe heard about it?), No matter who understood anything, but the jury voted the same way. Don't give a damn about politics and business, or anything other than personal ...
  32. lloaderr
    lloaderr 16 May 2016 08: 29
    +7
    People, we must rejoice at the results of the competition. After all, what they showed is that Russia won the audience (which was originally conceived when creating Eurovision), and we won't have to go broke for the next competition - let Poroshenko (or whoever will be there by that time) breaks his head. Well, the peers' "professional" jury can be sent to ... Australia!
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 16 May 2016 12: 13
      0
      I completely agree with you .... I would even say about Putin’s cunning plan and .... Merkel ...
  33. Gardamir
    Gardamir 16 May 2016 08: 46
    0
    I don’t understand, but what is everyone dissatisfied with? For the Great himself admitted that the Crimean Tatars illegally suffered, because on the central channels there are shows where Soviet shepherds fall under the invaders, because now you hear from many that he is not Russian, but Russian ...
  34. Basilevs
    Basilevs 16 May 2016 08: 57
    +6
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    From my point of view, quite rightly the Crimean Tatars, as well as the Chechens and some others, were resettled.


    Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian and other peoples "moved" to the front, under bullets and bombs. Themselves. So there is nothing to tell about your hard lot.
    And it would be nice for sympathizers to ask about the population growth statistics of these victims. And compare it with evil oppressors.
    1. Basil50
      Basil50 16 May 2016 14: 16
      +1
      So * oppressed * can do nothing else.
  35. Basil50
    Basil50 16 May 2016 09: 18
    +12
    The author is wrong, the betrayal of the Crimean Tatars was not episodic. It was the Crimean Tatars who destroyed in CRIMEA those who * are not Tartars * and those who could profit. Almost like in the NORTH CAUCASUS in the dashing 90s, they first destroyed * Russian-speaking *, then they divided * zones of influence among themselves. The entire male population of Tatars was in police custody, and it was they who destroyed the partisans and the Russian population of CRIMEA. According to the laws of wartime, they HAD to be shot, i.e. destroy all the Crimean Tatars, because women were smeared with blood. But they regretted and exiled. Today is the mercy of villains.
    And it’s easy to condemn deportation today, only tortured people cannot be returned. There remains a lesson of impunity and at the first opportunity everything will be repeated, I have no doubt.
  36. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 16 May 2016 09: 22
    +4
    Well, there’s still this abomination from gayvision on such a resource as VO to discuss ...
    Ugh! Devilish spawn.
  37. Viktor fm
    Viktor fm 16 May 2016 09: 37
    +3
    Zakharova told a joke about the "return of the Crimea." The notorious leader of Ukraine addresses in prayer to the Almighty, says: "Help restore the Crimea." And he answered: “You have already returned the Crimea, now it’s time to return the money”,
  38. Yarik76
    Yarik76 16 May 2016 10: 01
    +4
    Pedro and his comrades asked the EU for money 'got Eurovision. Hike someone nagged!
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 16 May 2016 12: 15
      +1
      They’ve got it!
  39. Skubudu
    Skubudu 16 May 2016 10: 10
    +2
    On the next gayvision, the entire hall will jump.
  40. nivander
    nivander 16 May 2016 10: 25
    +1
    in a year, this whole garden will move to Khokholandiya. But will there only be a khololyandiya in a year?
  41. rotor
    rotor 16 May 2016 11: 04
    0
    Be that as it may, Sergey Lazarev received the most votes from the audience and the audience of Russia and Ukraine at the Eurovision Song Contest gave the majority of votes to each other.
  42. Nicola Bari
    Nicola Bari 16 May 2016 11: 08
    +8
    I watched the performance of a Russian artist for the first time - I really liked it, but I turned off the sound beforehand lol .

    As for the results: we must be glad that everything turned out exactly like that, otherwise this whole rosy company would have arrived in Moscow next year, otherwise they will go to Kuyev, just to see with their own eyes that “everything is fine” there.

    PS Somewhere to our agents undercover yesterday they wrote out a presentation for orders and medals)).

    And if without jokes, then the best way not to lose to the sharpie is to not sit down to play at the table with the sharpie. And Eurovision, it is a stranger’s table and they only give out marked cards.
  43. nnz226
    nnz226 16 May 2016 11: 17
    +23
    In 1980 he came to Sevastopol on assignment. By chance I found myself in a certain male company, and there was a WAR veteran among us. Well, we drank, and good. and this uncle said that in 1942 he was captured at Cape Chersonesos, among tens of thousands, abandoned by the gallant admiral Oktyabrsky (the commander of the Black Sea Fleet at that time) to their fate. They drove the columns of prisoners to different places, but the uncle said: “I don’t know where the rumor came from, but we prayed to God that the Germans escorted us, because those who were escorted by the Crimean Tatars, no one reached the camp. machine guns put all! " Uncle was lucky, he survived in the Simferopol camp, was liberated by ours in 1944. After checking, they were put into operation (and not in any Gulag!), But since they were weakened, they were not sent to the battle for Sevastopol, they just would not have the strength enough to climb Sapun Mountain. But they were sent to participate in the deportation of the Crimean Tatars. They stood in a cordon around the villages so that no one ran away. People from the NKVD troops walked around their homes, but he saw the loading, heard the screams and cries of women and children, but said: "THERE WAS NO Pity!" Yes, and the deportation was attended by units that fought in the Crimea in 1942-42, and the soldiers knew that they were doing a just cause!
    1. alstr
      alstr 16 May 2016 12: 47
      +13
      Here's more about deportation:
      http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/dejavu57/post324884126/

      There, the fact is that about 200 people died on the road with 150 thousand people being resettled, which was slightly higher than the then mortality rate, but at the same time there were few young guys during the resettlement (they were hanging out in the SS).
      Yes, and fed rations at a rate higher than that of employees 500 g versus 400.
      And during the deportation, the following were seized: mortars - 49, machine guns - 622, machine guns - 724, rifles - 9888. Let me remind you this for 150 thousand, including children and the elderly, i.e. 13% of these settlers had weapons. These are the "peaceful" Tatars.
      So there is no need to feel sorry for the Tatars - they are to blame for their own fate.
    2. yawa63
      yawa63 17 May 2016 04: 38
      +2
      I myself am from Taman, my grandmother (God rest her soul) as a child (late 60s) told me that the most cruel policemen in Taman were the Crimean Tatars, I didn’t even know such a nationality then, but I remember it very much.
  44. Lelek
    Lelek 16 May 2016 11: 20
    +10
    (It should be ... But after Jamala’s victory, the competition’s politicism is already under a huge question. Even the declared theme of her song is already connected with politics. Not to mention the subtext, which completely turns Eurovision into a biased political show on the persecution of the country - the winner of fascism. )

    Confirmed by photo document:
  45. Menke
    Menke 16 May 2016 11: 37
    -16%
    As our president rightly said, we must win with a big advantage so that no one has any doubts, and not look for some kind of conspiracy. And if you don’t like the competition, then you don’t need to participate in it, you don’t need to watch it, especially since it went late at night, it’s better to sleep. I must admit that the performance of the Ukrainian singer was at the proper level, emotionally and with soul. And it is unworthy to "be smart" and giggle at the tragedy of an entire people, who have been deported only on ethnic grounds. Indiscriminately to accuse an entire people, and even more to punish them - this is fascism, when some nations are exalted, while others are belittled.
    1. PROXOR
      PROXOR 16 May 2016 11: 47
      +9
      Here, half the planet has a reason to sing. We recall everything to the Turks, Mongols, Germans, and also to our allies in the Anatant, together with the Mattresses. Who robbed the country after 1917?
      If each time, like this, fumble wounds, then there will be wars, fooled people, etc.
      Yet again. let's now dig into history. Why were they deported? That's right - for aiding the Nazi regime. It was among the Crimean Tatars that there were a large number of collaborators. The Chechens underwent the same department for exactly the same thing. Specifically, the Baltic countries and the western regions of Ukraine went through. What was to be done? During the occupation, they did as many atrocities as the Germans themselves did not. OUN UPA is a direct burning confirmation of this.

      YES!!!! By the way, I almost forgot. About the Poles. 1609-1613 years. To sing the same? So think what to write !!!! And now YOU have a huge MINUS !!!!
    2. Nonna
      Nonna 16 May 2016 12: 04
      +3
      "I must admit that the performance of the Ukrainian singer was at the proper level,"


      Howl in three notes do not understand what - a great mind is not necessary, like voices. It was necessary to say thanks to Stalin that he did not plague the traitors under the root, but only exiled him. But the USSR was never home to the Crimean Tatars, just as Russia was an eternal enemy to them. Everything was deserved. When there is a choice - I or the Homeland - choose the latter. And whoever chooses himself is genetic garbage
      1. Karlovar
        Karlovar 16 May 2016 13: 04
        +2
        For them, the roof, and very cool at the time, was always the Ottoman Porta ... This situation has not changed to this day, though only the roof is very thin. In World War 2, Turkey (the Crimean Tatar roof) was an ally of Hitler Germany, so the Tatars very enthusiastically complied with the Turkey-Germany allied treaty ...
    3. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 16 May 2016 13: 37
      +2
      Quote: Menke
      And it is unworthy to "be smart" and giggle at the tragedy of an entire people, who have been deported only on ethnic grounds. To indiscriminately accuse an entire people, and even more to punish them - this is fascism, when some nations are exalted, while others are belittled


      And you, in general, are aware that among the Crimean Tatars there are 8 Heroes of the Soviet Union, and among the Tatars more than 160 ?! Before expressing such thoughts, it would not hurt to read the story, especially since there are enough sources.
      1. Basil50
        Basil50 16 May 2016 14: 11
        +1
        Only now the relatives of these HEROES and other front-line soldiers from the Crimean Tatars were executioners and sadists. Those who refused to serve the Germans were killed. It was,
      2. alstr
        alstr 16 May 2016 16: 31
        +7
        This is not an indicator. Moreover, not all were evicted. Those who fought with the Germans and partisan did not evict.
        And about the ranks of the GSS, the 4 pilots of the Normandy-Neman regiment were awarded the title of the GSS. And now let's compare the number of regiment and the number of Crimean Tatars. Feel the difference (even if you count from 150 thousand deportees).

        With all this, it should be noted that the Tatars began to help during the Germans' breakthrough Crimea - voluntarily. There are certificates and documents about this.

        And now the practice of the "Beacon of Democracy" is the USA. In 1941, all the inhabitants of the Aleutian Islands were actually evicted to concentration camps. Compare with the same Crimean Tatars who were fed, provided medical assistance, got a job.
  46. Polar Bear
    Polar Bear 16 May 2016 11: 59
    +3
    If Lazarev sang like Orpheus - no one in the jury would say anything bad to him.
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 16 May 2016 13: 05
      +4
      What yes, then yes ... Filka decided to dump and show-offs in an easy way ...
  47. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 16 May 2016 12: 00
    +6
    In 2017, Poland could present the song “1943” about the Volyn massacre at Eurovision in Ukraine, the German press writes.
    According to the publication, “if everyone gets the same right, then next year Poland can start with a song that will be called“ 1943 ”and describe the killings of 100 thousand people in Volyn, which Ukraine is eagerly forgotten about,” TASS reports.
    “England can turn the Germans into Coventry bombing anthem; Germany - translate into music night raids on Dresden; Bosnians - write a mournful song about the Srebrenica massacre; Serbia - describe the crimes of Croats during the Second World War; and the Greek performer - to rap about the historical “Ohi” (“No”) to the ultimatum of fascist Italy in 1940, ”the newspaper said.

    http://vz.ru/news/2016/5/16/810635.html
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 16 May 2016 13: 09
      +9
      With the difference that the Poles and Jews were killed in Volhynia, and the Crimean Tatars were resettled from the Crimea, without infringing on their rights to new places of residence!
  48. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 16 May 2016 12: 01
    +9
    There is too much attention to some kind of non-cultural competition of world freaks - you just have to boycott it, and those who want to participate must pay their grandmothers for it. And even if there are giraffe-like pig-monkey-dogs defeating, they don’t give a damn about this panopticon! laughing
  49. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 16 May 2016 12: 48
    +7
    Competitions must be fair otherwise they make no sense! There is no competition in Eurovision - it is a politically engaged and pedarostically rotten event. Participate in this party for Russia
    humiliatingly.
  50. 1536
    1536 16 May 2016 13: 25
    +13
    Our singer had to sing in Russian about the brutally tortured, betrayed and killed during the years of fascist occupation citizens of the Russian Federation, about their unborn children, about unfulfilled love, ruined and crushed by the boots of traitors and fascists. This is not a confrontation, it is a harsh reality. Only in this way can we survive as a united people in a new battle with fascist Europe! They have already occupied Ukraine. What's next? Again let them go to Moscow ?!
    And then he sings in English, it is not clear about what ... First of all, you must respect yourself. It is a pity that talented people become hostages of mediocrity and frank art swindlers.
    1. bumbarash
      bumbarash 17 May 2016 07: 27
      0
      It wasn’t worth singing about other citizens of the USSR, huh?