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Media: NATO military committee worried about the fact that the Black Sea is practically becoming the “Russian lake”

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NATO fears that Russia will further increase its presence in the Black Sea and deprive the alliance of operational maneuver, according to an article in the Financial Times.




"I told him (NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg):" You are almost absent in the Black Sea. It has practically become a Russian lake. If we do not act now, история won't forgive us, ”leads RIA News the words of Erdogan spoken in Istanbul at a meeting of the chiefs of staff of the Balkan countries.

According to the NATO military committee, “Russia creates military power in the sea that goes beyond its borders, and in this way Moscow is able to deprive the alliance of operational maneuver near NATO borders,” the article says.

“The cornerstone of such a strategy is the positioning of ships in the Black Sea and the deployment of Caliber cruise missiles on ships,” the newspaper writes.

“The Black Sea is very vulnerable. Russia is returning to the game she waged both during the Cold War and before. The essence of the game is to treat the Black Sea as something like a Russian lake, ”Jonathan Eyal, the director of the Rusi think tank, quotes the publication.

Earlier, Petro Poroshenko announced the need to strengthen the alliance's positions in the Black Sea. He approved Romania’s plans to create a “separate Black Sea flotilla within NATO. ”
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  1. Michael67
    Michael67 15 May 2016 12: 49
    +76
    Before discussing the Russian Sea or the Black Sea, all this pack should repeat the lessons of history.
    Especially the Turks. I will not remind of any Yorktowns and carons off the coast of Crimea. And so they used to talk on TV.
    Learn the lessons, gentlemen, bastards! Try to repeat the old - the answer will be much more significant.
    1. varz
      varz 15 May 2016 13: 05
      +16
      History lessons: 1. The Caribbean crisis due to the close deployment of our missiles to the United States.
      2. Millions, tens of millions of dead Soviet citizens in the Second World War.
      We need to react more sharply to the approach of NATO forces to the borders of Russia and the deployment of American missile defense systems and medium-range missiles at our borders.
      1. vvv-73
        vvv-73 15 May 2016 22: 26
        +3
        Actually, it all started with the deployment of rockets in Turkey. Missiles in Cuba were the answer.
    2. moskowit
      moskowit 15 May 2016 13: 08
      +21
      "... Later, in the X-XIV centuries, in ancient Russian, Arab and Western sources, it is referred to as the" Russian Sea ", which is associated with its active use by navigators from Russia. The" Tale of Bygone Years "says" And the Dnieper will flow into Pont the sea is three zherela, the sea is called Ruskoe ... "... (from Wikipedia)

      As you can see, dear friends, many peoples called the sea RUSSIAN !!!
    3. vlad66
      vlad66 15 May 2016 13: 12
      +41
      Whoever owns the Crimea, that owns the Black Sea, flew Washington with NATO and the Crimea, and therefore squeal like beaten mongrel, although they are the beaten mongrel.
      1. Denis Obukhov
        Denis Obukhov 15 May 2016 13: 37
        +20
        Quote: vlad66
        Whoever owns the Crimea, that owns the Black Sea, flew Washington with NATO and the Crimea, and therefore squeal like beaten mongrel, although they are the beaten mongrel.



        Who owns Sevastopol - that owns the Black Sea! Words of Prince Potemkin ...
        1. poquello
          poquello 15 May 2016 19: 39
          +8
          Quote: Denis Obukhov
          Who owns Sevastopol - that owns the Black Sea! Words of Prince Potemkin ..

          not only words, but also deeds. Through the efforts of Potemkin, Crimea turned from a dull zagopina into a developed region, and Novorossia into the breadbasket of Russia. The development of Nikolaev, Kherson, Odessa, his merit, dill only do not know about it.
          1. jPilot
            jPilot 16 May 2016 06: 05
            +4
            Yes, they know everything. Therefore, they overwrite thoroughly, human memory.
      2. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 15 May 2016 13: 41
        +11
        Quote: vlad66
        Who owns the Crimea, he owns the Black Sea,


        Vladislav! hi
        I will continue your thought. Anyone who owns the Black Sea (or significant influence through the fleet and other types of aircraft) is capable of exerting a significant (if not decisive) influence on the situation in Syria, and on the whole BV. The Black Sea is the key to the entire Middle East mess. You can’t transport such an amount of everything necessary for exposure by air. So here the squeal of the West is quite justified. Pros ... and Crimea - pros ... and Syria. And what else will there be ... oh - time will tell.
        1. denis02135
          denis02135 18 May 2016 20: 30
          0
          Dear Polite Elk

          Quote: Polite Elk
          Whoever owns the Black Sea (or significant influence through the fleet and other types of aircraft) is capable of exerting a significant (if not decisive) influence on the state of affairs in Syria, and on the whole BV


          And if the Turks close the straits. Will we launch missiles through which countries?
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      4. Asadullah
        Asadullah 15 May 2016 16: 16
        +12
        Washington flew with NATO and the Crimea, and therefore squeal like beaten mongrel, although they are the beaten mongrels.


        So the whole Maidan was organized from behind the Crimea. Five-columners went over with the desa that Yanukovych was preparing documents for indefinite use of Sevastopol. As always, the lack of imagination and analytical skills starts the idiot process. Yanukovych was not just pro-Russian, he is not even like that today, because his accounts in the west were not blocked for a single day. And he uses VISA Inc., California, and Diners Club Schweiz. G * nida he is American, and the only thing in vain saved him. Although it is clear what they wanted to make of him such an exiled government, a legitimate president. Only then he spat in Russia.
        1. Winter cherry
          Winter cherry 16 May 2016 12: 00
          +5
          It seems that Yanukovych was "saved" to create a temporary vacuum in the Ukrainian government and return Crimea during this period of anarchy. Perhaps, had he stayed in Ukraine, he would have accepted all the conditions of the United States, including the Crimea. I don’t think he would have been killed, why? He would have signed everything anyway. Basically, Putin just used the situation in Kiev wisely.
          1. Asadullah
            Asadullah 16 May 2016 19: 13
            +7
            In principle, Putin just wisely used the situation in Kiev.


            Without diminishing the significance of our President, all the same, the Crimeans themselves returned the Crimea. You can attach, return only uninhabited land. Lands inhabited, have a master, inhabitants, that is, people. They are the owners. That's how they ruled their land in a businesslike way. A nod to them both from the insignificant Asadullah and from the historical personality of Putin. And I am sure that most Russians will bow to me. Overwhelming majority. A separate bow to the leadership of the country, for not fearing the Western reaction, went to sanction and power risks. Managed to organize everything according to the highest level. Personally, I thought that all the same, from the Crimea they would make an enclave, like Transnistria. But no, it turned out to underestimate the strength of Putin's nerves. Well, being Russian is a deadly diagnosis. He became, and die. Many of course do not understand the meaning of Crimea, but I will say only one thing: Crimea completely covers the solar plexus of Russia. All expenditures of the West to incite a war in the Caucasus, all expenditures on the forehead of the Chechen wars, expenditures on Georgia and Nabucco, on orange and Maidan Ukraine, on the fight against the South Stream, were thrown into the wind. This is the same as building a dam on the world river for decades, and the Russian bear took, and sent water in the other direction. Now they run around the facility, play paintball, poke NATO stars on their knees and shoulders, try to connect turbines to sails, and make them gray-gray-gray in all corners of their built brainchild. And Russia, hid behind such a shield, the grandeur of which is realized only after a few generations.
            1. Mikado
              Mikado 17 May 2016 14: 03
              0
              Your golden words! good
            2. D. Dan
              D. Dan 22 May 2016 08: 06
              0
              Sanctions will persuade and resolve and Crimea will remain forever.
      5. jPilot
        jPilot 16 May 2016 06: 03
        +5
        So the project of Fashington "Ukraine" and was conceived in order to chop off the Crimea and into the already existing built by the USSR the most powerful infrastructure (which they could not completely take away) to stick their bases. Therefore, they "howl", rage and spit bile. They thought We were busy with the Olympic Games, weakened and ... not up to that. But it didn't work out on the sly. Thanks to our "special" department good worked perfectly.
    4. Finches
      Finches 15 May 2016 13: 15
      +16
      The appearance on Earth of such an ethnos as the Anglo-Saxons forever doomed humanity to a restless existence ... And if you recall the barbaric law "assiento" according to which English politicians considered the slave trade using their fleet a monopoly right, then since then the British consider any sea his fiefdom! Now all this is in a modern way - since the Black Sea washes the shores of the English sixes, the old-fashioned slaves, it means, in the opinion of the Anglo-Saxons, their Black Sea! The presence of Russia in this region has always caused an intolerable itch in Whitehall's offices, and now on Capitol Hill. Unfortunately, the Anglo-Saxons can be persuaded otherwise only by sinking a couple of their troughs ...
      1. cap
        cap 15 May 2016 13: 26
        +10
        Quote: Finches
        The appearance on Earth of such an ethnos as the Anglo-Saxons forever doomed humanity to a restless existence ... And if you recall the barbaric law "assiento" according to which English politicians considered the slave trade using their fleet a monopoly right, then since then the British consider any sea his fiefdom! Now all this is in a modern way - since the Black Sea washes the shores of the English sixes, the old-fashioned slaves, it means, in the opinion of the Anglo-Saxons, their Black Sea! The presence of Russia in this region has always caused an intolerable itch in Whitehall's offices, and now on Capitol Hill. Unfortunately, the Anglo-Saxons can be persuaded otherwise only by sinking a couple of their troughs ...
        hell



        One trough. Where did you see the two?
        1. Finches
          Finches 15 May 2016 13: 36
          +6
          Across the ocean .... laughing
        2. weksha50
          weksha50 15 May 2016 19: 51
          +3
          Quote: cap
          One trough. Where did you see the two?



          The second is on another continent ...
      2. weksha50
        weksha50 15 May 2016 19: 49
        +2
        Quote: Finches
        Unfortunately, the Anglo-Saxons can be convinced otherwise only by sinking a couple of their troughs ...


        Everything would be better ...

        PS This is so, senile dreams ... negative
    5. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 15 May 2016 13: 35
      +14
      "NATO is afraid ..." Fear is the lot of the strong, so this term does not apply to all of you. If Washington had not secretly deployed nuclear weapons in Turkey in 1961, the Cuban missile crisis would not have happened. And the USSR would not have deployed its force grouping in Cuba. And the world would not have stood on the verge of World War III back in the sixties. And we also remember the help of Soviet Russia to Kemal in the war for Turkey's independence and the Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation. And we also remember that at the Yalta Conference in February 1945, Stalin made a special statement about the Black Sea Straits, demanding free passage of Soviet warships through the straits at any time. Churchill and Roosevelt agreed to these demands. And we remember well the entry of Turkey into NATO later. So the actions of Russia and its fleet are now preemptive. Our partners have lost trust, apparently for a long time. So get used to it, gentlemen, get used to it. Russia's actions in the Black Sea are preemptive and absolutely justified.
    6. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 15 May 2016 13: 39
      +8
      Pugs cheer each other up, and it’s scary to bite each other - they understand that they will remain without teeth. They cannot conquer the Crimea for 230 years, now they wanted to drive into the fools of the maydanuty. It didn’t work, they grind their teeth from anger and frustration.
    7. Altona
      Altona 15 May 2016 15: 47
      +2
      Quote: Michael67
      Before discussing the Russian Sea or the Black Sea, all this pack should repeat the lessons of history.

      ------------------
      Yes, they are stupidly envious. And they will grumble, they will grumble. They think that Russians can spread rot with impunity.
    8. lerik
      lerik 16 May 2016 09: 19
      0
      Erdogan is trying to bargain that, the EU has promised a lot, and he has a family business with isils. who wrapped up, resentment in him or trick I do not know
    9. Vend
      Vend 16 May 2016 09: 27
      0
      Quote: Michael67
      Before discussing the Russian Sea or the Black Sea, all this pack should repeat the lessons of history.
      Especially the Turks. I will not remind of any Yorktowns and carons off the coast of Crimea. And so they used to talk on TV.
      Learn the lessons, gentlemen, bastards! Try to repeat the old - the answer will be much more significant.

      This is exactly, even before the US emerged, the Black Sea was called Russian, and the Baltic Vendian. And the Wends in Europe called the Slavs.
      1. Cormorants
        Cormorants 17 May 2016 10: 05
        0
        Erdogan would be silent, otherwise we’ll rename the city one)))
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    10. apostoll
      apostoll 17 May 2016 14: 38
      +3
      I will not be verbose! read what is written in the picture! Just now, our country is being colonized ...
      If anyone is against, then look at the latest news ... about Siluanov's pension reform ...
    11. Orionvit
      Orionvit 17 May 2016 17: 36
      0
      What did they want? If power from ocean to ocean, I'm sorry. Tolerate creatures.
  2. sever.56
    sever.56 15 May 2016 12: 51
    +14
    Oh, how we are "worried" by all this tryndezh of the schizophrenic Erdogan and the opinions of NATO generals, the General Staff does not sleep at night, only thinks what they will say in NATA.
    If they didn’t know, or forgot, I want to remind them that: IN THE VI - XVII CENTURIES, THE BLACK SEA was called RUSSIAN !!!
    Let Russia not be forced to ensure that the Black Sea does not become Russian in fact again.
    And we can expand the Bosphorus and Dardanelles.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 15 May 2016 13: 13
      +11
      Quote: sever.56
      Let Russia not be forced to ensure that the Black Sea does not become Russian in fact again.
      And we can expand the Bosphorus and Dardanelles.

      And it’s time to return Hagia Sophia to Orthodoxy, and Istanbul the old name is Constantinople.
    2. weksha50
      weksha50 15 May 2016 19: 54
      +1
      Quote: sever.56
      Let Russia not be forced to Black Sea not again became Russian in fact.
      And we can expand the Bosphorus and Dardanelles.


      Why not ?

      And the straits - to "grab" ...
  3. ILIA
    ILIA 15 May 2016 12: 53
    +5
    The capitalist fatherland is in danger !!!!!!!!!
    1. BMP-2
      BMP-2 15 May 2016 17: 59
      +2
      More likely a hamster! laughing
  4. faridg7
    faridg7 15 May 2016 12: 57
    +12
    Crimea is Russia, so in the Black Sea we are HOME. You can at least mark all the corners in your ports, and you won’t do anything about it. US RATING
  5. Abbra
    Abbra 15 May 2016 12: 57
    +11
    This "Russian lake" has the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles. If you finish crowing, you will have to call the Mediterranean Sea a "Russian" lake.
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 15 May 2016 19: 55
      +2
      Quote: Abbra
      the Mediterranean Sea will have to be called a "Russian" lake.



      Well, both under the kings and during the Soviet era, our fleet was at home in the Mediterranean ...

      It's time to come back ...
    2. avt
      avt 15 May 2016 20: 05
      0
      Quote: Abbra
      This "Russian lake" has the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles. If you finish crowing, you will have to call the Mediterranean Sea a "Russian" lake.

      Actually, in those days, distant, now almost ... yes, actually the epic Mediterranean Sea in Russia White used to be called a certain time ...... Maybe it’s worth returning to the cards then? wassat
  6. bronik
    bronik 15 May 2016 12: 58
    +2
    "We don't want an inch of a foreign land,
    But we won't surrender our own. "

    So it was and so it is!
  7. KnightRider
    KnightRider 15 May 2016 12: 58
    +13
    This year the Black Sea Fleet will noticeably increase. soldier
  8. BARKAS
    BARKAS 15 May 2016 12: 59
    +11
    If Russia is a regional power, then the seas around it are its lakes and the arctic oceans are seas, it is logical!
  9. Zomanus
    Zomanus 15 May 2016 13: 01
    +12
    The sea is like the sea ... Follow the rules and nothing will come of it to you.
    Well, we just monitor compliance with these rules.
    Of course it is clear that the Turks are uncomfortable feeling
    under constant watch after the recent freemen.
    But there’s nothing to be done.
  10. Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 15 May 2016 13: 01
    +13
    "Russia is returning to the game it played during the Cold War and before it. The essence of the game is to treat the Black Sea as something like a Russian lake."

    There is also a territory that will soon be treated as a large Russian ice rink with a trefoil-shaped locker room. Let's play there some more.
  11. t118an
    t118an 15 May 2016 13: 05
    +11
    The Russian Sea is the HISTORICAL name of the Black Sea in ancient Russian and Arabic sources. RUSSIAN SEA, the name of the Black Sea in Russian chronicles (see CHRONICLES) when describing the events of 9-15 centuries, as well as in Arabic sources of the 10th century ...

    Teach ............ generals from NATO .. ​​and teach you the wrong thing
  12. Yak-15
    Yak-15 15 May 2016 13: 13
    +9
    It should be so. because the Black Sea was first called Russian. So gentlemen Western Eblan, you are worried in vain.
  13. Tusv
    Tusv 15 May 2016 13: 16
    +3
    Two codes will be hard, then get used to it
  14. sgazeev
    sgazeev 15 May 2016 13: 25
    +5
    Pskudniki snarl over Crimea. We need to restore the bases in Vyborg, Helsingfors, Revel and Abo. Well, as a joke. Yesterday, from high-ranking Russian sources it became known that the Russian government intends to maintain a naval squadron in the territorial waters of the United States on an ongoing basis, and it is New York port will become the center of the Russian naval presence in the Western Hemisphere
  15. yuriy55
    yuriy55 15 May 2016 13: 30
    +6
    NATO fears that Russia will further increase its presence in the Black Sea and deprive the alliance of operational maneuver ...


    Yes Yes Yes!!! War is nonsense, the main maneuver wassat

    Why is there, in fact, to maneuver? The Black Sea was called "Russian". This did not suit someone and they called him Black ... Do you want the old name to return?
  16. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 15 May 2016 13: 31
    +8
    They will soon show their interest in Baikal.
    Yes, we laid on mattress anxiety.
  17. sgazeev
    sgazeev 15 May 2016 13: 42
    +4
    Tu-22M3 - a thunderstorm of aircraft carriers. Finding an enemy carrier group in the Sea of ​​Japan and opening its air defense system was a rather difficult task. The Americans well masked such groups "in the shadow" of numerous islands, so even from the air with the help of radar it was quite difficult to detect them, moreover, working radars allow the ships to quickly detect aircraft and prepare for them a worthy meeting. Despite this, our pilots, proving their professionalism, were able, until the last moment without finding themselves, to find an enemy aircraft carrier. Then fighters flew to intercept them. One of them flew so close that you could see a smile on the face of an American pilot. He winked at the commander and showed the belly of his plane with air-to-air missiles. To this, the Soviet missile carriers turned their twin cannon mounts. It would seem that this "exchange of courtesies" will end, but the American pilot decided to joke. With a smile on his face, he began to offer the Soviet missile carriers to board the aircraft carrier. At this time, there was a multi-purpose Kitty Hawk downstairs, on the deck of which there were anti-submarine aircraft, fighters, reconnaissance aircraft - flights were conducted.
  18. BOB044
    BOB044 15 May 2016 13: 44
    0
    How would you gentlemen from NATO with the Black Sea in pants do not go for the most part. Learn history, and then it will be too late.
  19. sgazeev
    sgazeev 15 May 2016 13: 45
    +5
    As befits a real landing, landing gears and flaps are released, the plane is reduced. It is difficult to understand whether it is an imitation or not, if you are not in the cockpit of a huge missile carrier landing on the deck. The Americans have already begun to imagine what would happen if such a colossus landed on the deck. The Tu-22M3 would simply take down all the planes and people from the deck, damage the superstructure and the command post. And the fire from a collision if there were tons of kerosene and two powerful missiles on board the 50, each of which weighs 5 tons, would have had to be extinguished more than one day. Imitation landing failed. Considering then the pictures taken, one could consider the panic that arose on board the aircraft carrier. In fairness, it is worth noting that this story is more like an army bike. And on the network you can find another version of it, which featured Tu-95 aircraft. The images taken from the aircraft are not declassified, as are the names of the pilots performing this approach.
  20. bovig
    bovig 15 May 2016 13: 46
    +2
    "I told him (NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg):" You are almost not in the Black Sea. It has practically become a Russian lake. If we do not act now, history will not forgive us, "RIA Novosti quoted Erdogan as saying in Istanbul on the meeting of the chiefs of staff of the Balkan countries.

    History will not only forgive - history will triumph! From time immemorial, even with the greatness of the Byzantine Empire, the Black Sea was called Russian. Cunning Erdogan ...
  21. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 15 May 2016 13: 48
    0
    "You are almost not in the Black Sea."

    Nothing surprised. We too Yes Chubais, him too almost not - and also appears when he asks for money.
  22. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 15 May 2016 14: 15
    +4
    Will you be hysterical for historical facts? The Black Sea is a thorn in NATO's bottom ?. It has always been so, and it will be so! Does the "Baltic puddle" upset you? But in vain! Closer to the European capitals and in general .... NATO, as a "force" so-called, must learn Arabic conversational ..... GY! Really useful! "When you catch a big Russian fish, look around! You are caught by a big needle crocodile" (c). Free translation of a popular African proverb.
  23. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 15 May 2016 14: 20
    +6
    Well, you bought us Crimea for five yards of greenery, so why be offended? You were not invited to Sevastopol? Well, you have nothing to do there, from the word at all. Neither Matrasia, nor NATO, let alone Turkey. And the fact that the entire Black Sea is "blocked" from the Crimea - well, it was clear to everyone and always.
  24. Obolensky
    Obolensky 15 May 2016 14: 22
    +4
    Nothing to do NATO and warships from other countries in the Black Sea. And in general, it’s time to dissolve NATO, otherwise they have become very preoccupied and restless.
  25. HMR333
    HMR333 15 May 2016 14: 39
    +3
    here Zadorny’s phrase is stupid and well ..... there are plenty of coastal complexes there, they can be controlled by the whole Black Sea))) not only what the hell are they going to where they are not in the country and they are also screaming))) rag!
  26. COJIDAT
    COJIDAT 15 May 2016 14: 48
    0
    Quote: vlad66
    Whoever owns the Crimea, that owns the Black Sea, flew Washington with NATO and the Crimea, and therefore squeal like beaten mongrel, although they are the beaten mongrel.

    Not beaten yet, but mongrels!
  27. Pitot
    Pitot 15 May 2016 15: 13
    +3
    From the earliest times the Black Sea was called Russian.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 16 May 2016 08: 28
      0
      Quote: Pitot
      From the earliest times the Black Sea was called Russian.

      Right, you need to rename. It will be fun lol
  28. Sergey333
    Sergey333 15 May 2016 15: 47
    +3
    Did they hope for something else? So that Khokhlov better bury it back laughing
  29. atamankko
    atamankko 15 May 2016 15: 48
    +3
    For a long time even at the word "Crimea" NATO will spill bile.
  30. Prisoner
    Prisoner 15 May 2016 15: 53
    +3
    No wonder they were enraged when the Crimea returned to Russia. Mattresses broke off with Crimea and everyone lost the opportunity to spoil the Black Sea. And our fleet will restore order there. All Nata Lafa is canceled for you. Kirdyk Erdogash and he understands this!
  31. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 15 May 2016 16: 09
    +4
    Lake, by definition - inland pond not directly connected to the sea (ocean).
    So what ... climb into our territory, according to their own wording - essence of the question.
  32. lopvlad
    lopvlad 15 May 2016 16: 39
    +6
    and robs the alliance of operational maneuver

    Forget. The operational maneuver in the Black Sea and the entry of enemy NATO ships into the Crimea ended.
    And you will become impudent that the entire coast along with Odessa and Transnistria will be part of Russia.
  33. Kotost
    Kotost 15 May 2016 17: 14
    +6
    I believe the time will come
    We bring the shores back
    From Rostov to Odessa,
    There will be Russian land!
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  35. sergzub
    sergzub 15 May 2016 17: 31
    +1
    Yes, the Russian sea sounds better than black.
  36. samoletil18
    samoletil18 15 May 2016 17: 35
    +3
    And that they are only worried about the "calibers"? There, the Tu-22M3 is also acquiring new content. They would have taken a compass!
  37. behemot
    behemot 15 May 2016 17: 36
    +1
    and nefig NATO to do in it.
  38. HAM
    HAM 15 May 2016 17: 37
    +4
    "Gypsy naval flotilla" - sounds proudly, don't you think?
  39. _my opinion
    _my opinion 15 May 2016 18: 00
    +3
    According to the NATO military committee, “Russia is creating in the sea areas of military power that go beyond its borders ...

    And if you recall the United States, its area of ​​military power, long away(!!!!!) sticking out beyond its borders, then Russia is simply marking time at its borders, cooling the hot heads of those who rub and scream at these borders about "the most aggressive Russia"
    “The Black Sea is very vulnerable. Russia is returning to the game that it played during the years of the Cold War and before it. The essence of the game is to treat the Black Sea as something like a Russian lake ”

    Nooo, it's all of you playing war games, and Russia just says: "Get out of my borders, stick your head around, get it in full!"
  40. smart ass
    smart ass 15 May 2016 19: 18
    +2
    From the coast of Crimea, the Black Sea is shot lengthwise and across, by any means of armament. Nato leaked the Black Sea when the Crimea leaked ... everything seems to be clear
  41. Volksib
    Volksib 15 May 2016 19: 38
    +3
    The operation in Crimea showed the increased professionalism of our armed forces. The price was too high. In fact, the whole maidan masquerade was started in order to squeeze out our "unsinkable" aircraft carrier, our Crimea. So many times drenched in the blood of our warriors. To give Crimea to amers meant to get a knife in the hypochondrium of Russia.
  42. nick_826
    nick_826 15 May 2016 21: 13
    0
    What, the bourgeoisie are uninhabited !!! ...
  43. Verdun
    Verdun 15 May 2016 21: 34
    +1
    NATO military committee is concerned about the fact that the Black Sea is practically becoming a “Russian lake”
    I would recommend that the gentlemen of NATO better learn history.
    In later times, VI-XVII centuries, both in Russian and in Arabic, Italian and other sources, due to the active navigation of the Slavs, the name "Russian Sea" was used. In the "Tale of Bygone Years" it says, "And Dnepr is draining into the Pontic Sea three ereli, the sea is the same as Ruska ..."
    And this didn’t bother anyone.
    1. poquello
      poquello 15 May 2016 22: 02
      +1
      Quote: Verdun
      I would recommend that the gentlemen of NATO better learn history. In later times, VI-XVII centuries, both in Russian and in Arabic, Italian and other sources thanks to the active navigation of the Slavs..

      yeah, swam and called, Upper Russia was, then Tmutarakan
  44. drags33
    drags33 15 May 2016 21: 35
    +4
    In the X-XIV centuries, this sea was really called the Russian Sea. This is a historical fact. And Russian blood was shed on this sea immeasurably in the battles for Russia. So everything is true - this is the Russian sea! Well, doubters can be convincingly convinced ...
  45. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 15 May 2016 21: 58
    +1
    So that the sea does not become a lake, NATO needs to mobilize Ukrainians so that they dig a bigger sea. And then they are foolish from idleness. Can labor make them people?
  46. Starik. 47
    Starik. 47 15 May 2016 22: 22
    +1
    Do not push NATO to the borders of RUSSIA and the shores of the Black Sea, then no one will call it a "lake". And the adviser, Yerdogan, needs to carefully study the history of his country.
  47. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 15 May 2016 22: 29
    +1
    After a quarter century of retreat and loss, we only stopped this disastrous
    the way, as soon as the "partners" yelled: the Russians are coming!
  48. twincam
    twincam 15 May 2016 23: 36
    0
    NATO feels being put on a member.
    That is indignant))) lol
    1. 1536
      1536 16 May 2016 16: 59
      0
      NATO feels that nobody needs it on a member! Hence all the tricks and jumps. Hence the resentment and resentment. So what to do? That's life!
  49. Lelek
    Lelek 16 May 2016 00: 03
    0
    "I told him (NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg):" You are almost not in the Black Sea. It has practically become a Russian lake. If we do not act now, history will not forgive us, "RIA Novosti quoted Erdogan as saying in Istanbul on the meeting of the chiefs of staff of the Balkan countries.


    The Black Sea in ancient times was called the "Russian Sea". And the Turk continues to shit and immediately hopes to cut the dough on Russian tourists. An abomination.
  50. Großer feldherr
    Großer feldherr 16 May 2016 00: 08
    0
    The picture is clearly out of place ...