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The helicopter of the Turkish army was shot down by Kurdish armed forces. Video

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A video of how Kurdish armed forces are shooting down a Turkish helicopter using a portable anti-aircraft missile system. The attack on the helicopter Bell AH-1 "Cobra" occurred in the south-east of Turkey, a few kilometers from the border with Iraq. Recall that earlier the Turkish military issued a statement that the helicopter allegedly fell due to a technical malfunction. From the video it becomes clear that the statements of the Turkish command were a lie.


The video is published on GerillaTv, as well as by the agency AMN:



The footage shows that the 9K38 “Igla” MANPADS is used to strike a Turkish helicopter. Both members of the helicopter crew died. Responsibility for the attack on the helicopter of the Turkish army, conducting a military operation against the Kurdish population in the south-eastern provinces of the country, was claimed by representatives of the Kurdish Workers Party. Official Ankara considers this organization a terrorist one.

For reference: to date, helicopters AH-1 "Cobra" are in service with a number of countries in the world. In addition to Turkey, these helicopters are used by the armies of the United States, Israel, Jordan, Japan, Bahrain, Iran, Pakistan, Spain, and others. The crew of the human 2 helicopter. The maximum speed is 315 km / h, the static ceiling is about 3,7 km. The helicopter is produced from 60-ies of the last century.
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  1. dvina71
    dvina71 14 May 2016 19: 39
    +20
    Needle. Where did the Kurds come from?
    1. Michael67
      Michael67 14 May 2016 19: 43
      +119
      Glory to Russian weapons!
      Well, that fell into the right hands.
      This is revenge for the Erdagan Fuhrer. And this is only the beginning of the journey.
      1. Smit713
        Smit713 14 May 2016 20: 13
        +23
        Hands are not entirely reliable, these hands can then pass the "needle" anywhere. But at this stage it was worth it.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 14 May 2016 21: 29
          +109
          Quote: Smit713
          Hands are not entirely reliable, these hands can then pass the "needle" anywhere.

          Normal hands)))
          They have a long way to go. Peshmerga - "Going to Death" (on foot) on foot, merg (mortuary-death). They have a goal of Kurdistan, and they do not think that they will squander what little they have somewhere on the side.
          Everything will go into business - in a businesslike way)))
          Not for nothing that the Kurds opened their representative office in Moscow.
          Turkey supporting the terrogyug from the Caucasus, probably did not think that the answer may be mirrored)))
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 14 May 2016 21: 55
            +65
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Turkey supporting the terrogyug from the Caucasus, probably did not think that the answer may be mirrored)))


            Dmitry! hi
            I join your comment. Quietly, the favor comes back. I hope there will also be non-child interest.
            1. Leonid
              Leonid 15 May 2016 07: 28
              -10%
              Do you like the heat of others to rake in?
          2. Shurik70
            Shurik70 14 May 2016 22: 04
            +20
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Quote: Smit713
            Hands are not entirely reliable, these hands can then pass the "needle" anywhere.

            Normal hands)))

            That's it.
            When you and your neighbors / relatives / friends are killed / harassed for nationality, this is fascism.
            I would have fought in their place too.
            Erdagan's policy towards the Kurds is fascism.
            So nowhere is this weapon, except in the Turks, will not shoot.

            And how did it get to them ...
            That in the 90s we have that in Ukraine now almost every military depot has a smart warrant officer. Well, very smart.
            1. Yuri from Volgograd
              Yuri from Volgograd 14 May 2016 23: 00
              +25
              Honestly, we are glad that we are happy for the loss of the Turks, however, as for the rest.
              But this is not our choice, it is just a response.
              Eh, Erdogan would be in that turntable.
              1. PKTRL
                PKTRL 15 May 2016 02: 18
                +41
                Yuri from Volgograd (1) RU  Yesterday, 23:00

                Honestly, we are glad that we are happy for the loss of the Turks, however, as for the rest.
                But this is not our choice, it is just a response.
                Oh, Erdogan would be in that turntable


                - Grandfather, have you been to war?
                - was a granddaughter!
                - beat the fascists?
                - beat!
                “How many people did you kill?”
                - no one!...

                Fascism, it is not in the person of one person, it doesn’t! The masses always give birth to him .., with the support of people or with their tacit consent! In Germany in the 30s all fans from Hitler, and not only in Germany. All Europe against the USSR trampled under the swastika! And in the spring of 1945 the people of Germany bleated like sheep, saying they were deceived ..
                Now in Europe, and in Turkey in particular, the same thing is happening as in Europe in the 30s ..
                1. Yuri from Volgograd
                  Yuri from Volgograd 16 May 2016 00: 21
                  +1
                  Quote: PCTRL
                  [i] Yuri from Volgograd (1) RU  Yesterday, 23:00


                  Fascism, it is not in the person of one person, it doesn’t! The masses always give birth to him .., with the support of people or with their tacit consent!

                  I myself often remember this phrase from the film "Afonya", half agree with you, half not.
                  In such conflicts, as a rule, there is a key ideological (godless) mastermind. In this case, Erdogan.
                  At the same time I repeat, it is unpleasant that it came to this. War and killing are always bad.
                2. okunevich_rv
                  okunevich_rv 16 May 2016 06: 18
                  +4
                  The people of Germany were really deceived, they were told the USSR would be swept away in one fell swoop - they were deceived, they were told all Germans on new lands would be allotted with slaves - they were deceived, they were told the Reich was invincible - they were deceived, the Reich would clear the land of non-Germans - again they were deceived, the Fritz with Hans would multiply, here they almost told the truth, only the Fritz and Hans do not give offspring, and they bleated.
                  And about Erdogan and the people of Turkey, so they are one, do not be fooled that if Erdogan does not become, Turkey will turn to face Russia, the people are insidious. And they had to endure the Russians resting, as they were carrying money, and there were enough incidents even then.
                  Of course, a bad world is always better than a good quarrel, but how they were friends in our garden during the Chechen one is still not cleaned in the corners.
                3. The stranger
                  The stranger 16 May 2016 15: 36
                  +2
                  Yes, of course, nothing in common.
                  Present Turkey is the remnants of the Ottoman Empire. In its heyday, it was huge, but then the world came up with the Renaissance and moved on, and that empire remained Oriental-dense, and everyone began to take what it liked from it. The last time you took the Balkans in 1878, but before the enslaved Kurds, things didn’t come to the nineteenth century. They are not Turks, they are one of the peoples enslaved by the Seljuk Turks. In the twentieth century, everyone had problems more urgently, but now the Kurdish affair has ripened.
                  Erdogan himself is, in a sense, a fascist typical, that’s without question. But it’s more difficult with the people. All but a few large cities are desert. In the sense of not only geographical, but economic, educational, worldview. They have been told for centuries that everything on a territory is Turkey and Turks. And since they have no other information at all, they sacredly believe in it. Hence Turkish nationalism, which is one half of the problem. And the second is naturally Islam, which is not difficult to flourish in the wildest poverty and illiteracy. And so they stand behind their Erdogan, not ideologically, like those Germans, but purely herd, as is customary in the East.
                  And by the way - not all are behind Erdogan, but only half. Even with rigged elections, he does not reach what he wants.
                  1. gans_sp
                    gans_sp 16 May 2016 23: 14
                    +3
                    Uh-huh, only the Kurds happily slaughtered the Armenians at the beginning of the twentieth century, fooled the Turks and occupied their lands. There is no "our" from the word at all.
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            2. Starover_Z
              Starover_Z 15 May 2016 00: 36
              +4
              Quote: Shurik70
              When you and your neighbors / relatives / friends are killed / harassed for nationality, this is fascism.

              And the Fashington "regional committee" is silent, supporting Er Dogag
              representatives of the Kurdish Workers Party. Official Ankara considers this organization to be terrorist.

              Since another nationality means "terrorist" ?!
              And GayRopa is silent ...
            3. Revolver
              Revolver 15 May 2016 02: 39
              +6
              Quote: Shurik70
              That in the 90s we have that in Ukraine now almost every military depot has a smart warrant officer.

              The general serves while the legs are worn, and the ensign - while the hands.
            4. sergey2017
              sergey2017 15 May 2016 09: 23
              +1
              Kurds are a nomadic nation, the movement of their tribes is well known - this is Turkey-Iran-Afghanistan! From there and weapons!
          3. Anglorussian
            Anglorussian 14 May 2016 22: 35
            +13
            Those who face death (more accurate translation). pesh-see, stand before, merga-die.
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          5. Botanologist
            Botanologist 14 May 2016 23: 38
            +4
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            They have a long way to go. Peshmerga - "Going to Death" (on foot) on foot, merg (mortuary-death). They have a goal of Kurdistan, and they do not think that they will squander what little they have somewhere on the side.


            They are happy with any weapon, but do not think that they treat us better or worse than the Turks. As soon as Syria settles down with slippers, graters with Kurds will immediately begin. And it is not known who will be the more unpleasant rival. The Kurds need autonomy, and whoever encroaches on it - ISIS, Assad or Erdogan - does not matter to them. It's like a bonfire - you can warm yourself near it, but you don’t need to think that it will go out when you need it.
            1. poquello
              poquello 15 May 2016 00: 47
              +5
              Quote: Botanologist
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              They have a long way to go. Peshmerga - "Going to Death" (on foot) on foot, merg (mortuary-death). They have a goal of Kurdistan, and they do not think that they will squander what little they have somewhere on the side.


              They are happy with any weapon, but do not think that they treat us better or worse than the Turks. As soon as Syria settles down with slippers, graters with Kurds will immediately begin. And it is not known who will be the more unpleasant rival. The Kurds need autonomy, and whoever encroaches on it - ISIS, Assad or Erdogan - does not matter to them. It's like a bonfire - you can warm yourself near it, but you don’t need to think that it will go out when you need it.

              Nevertheless, Assad agreed with them somehow
            2. bovig
              bovig 15 May 2016 02: 00
              0
              Quote: Botanologist
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              They have a long way to go. Peshmerga - "Going to Death" (on foot) on foot, merg (mortuary-death). They have a goal of Kurdistan, and they do not think that they will squander what little they have somewhere on the side.


              They are happy with any weapon, but do not think that they treat us better or worse than the Turks. As soon as Syria settles down with slippers, graters with Kurds will immediately begin. And it is not known who will be the more unpleasant rival. The Kurds need autonomy, and whoever encroaches on it - ISIS, Assad or Erdogan - does not matter to them. It's like a bonfire - you can warm yourself near it, but you don’t need to think that it will go out when you need it.

              It is always necessary to think (in the sense of thinking, analyzing, predicting) ... It is harmful to make mistakes!) For the Kurds, not everything is so simple - some dream of Kurdistan, others dream of autonomy, and these are two different things. Somehow I didn’t even consider how many autonomies in Russia ... Even we have a republic, not only autonomy! For a wise, balanced domestic policy, this fact is not dangerous. Suppose there is North Ossetia as part of the Russian Federation, there is South Ossetia as part of Georgia - there is a hypothetical option for combining the two Ossetia ... But in what variant?) There are at least three of them! And what is the most likely?))
              1. kush62
                kush62 15 May 2016 11: 47
                +2
                bovig
                Suppose there is North Ossetia as part of the Russian Federation, there is South Ossetia as part of Georgia - there is a hypothetical option for combining the two Ossetia ... But in what variant?) There are at least three of them! And what is the most likely?))

                About South Ossetia, such tolerances are useless. They won their independence from Georgia.
                1. bovig
                  bovig 15 May 2016 14: 15
                  0
                  Quote: kush62
                  bovig
                  Suppose there is North Ossetia as part of the Russian Federation, there is South Ossetia as part of Georgia - there is a hypothetical option for combining the two Ossetia ... But in what variant?) There are at least three of them! And what is the most likely?))

                  About South Ossetia, such tolerances are useless. They won their independence from Georgia.

                  Did I say anything against their conquests? Did you read this in my comment? Or did you think of it yourself?)))) Before making a claim, carefully read and ponder the meaning of what is written, and do not distort it with your own speculations - this is not smart! Do you understand the meaning of the word HYPOTHETIC?))))
                  1. kush62
                    kush62 15 May 2016 15: 12
                    0
                    bovig
                    Suppose there is North Ossetia as part of the Russian Federation, there is South Ossetia as part of Georgia - there is a hypothetical option for combining the two Ossetia ... But in what variant?) There are at least three of them! And what is the most likely?))
                    bovig
                    Do you understand the meaning of the word HYPOTHETIC?))))

                    Now, if they wrote that hypothetically there is South Ossetia within Georgia, then I would understand. It is necessary to write so that it would not be possible to interpret otherwise.
                    I didn’t write against you, but I made an amendment. So, please do not be offended.
              2. poquello
                poquello 15 May 2016 13: 09
                +2
                Quote: bovig
                there is South Ossetia as part of Georgia

                from oak collapsed? South Ossetia is recognized by Russia, respect bow tie-eater, now South Ossetia will hypothetically enter Georgia only by its own decision, which is unlikely in the closest relationship between Georgia and South Ossetia.
                1. bovig
                  bovig 15 May 2016 14: 30
                  +1
                  Quote: poquello
                  Quote: bovig
                  there is South Ossetia as part of Georgia

                  from oak collapsed? South Ossetia is recognized by Russia, respect bow tie-eater, now South Ossetia will hypothetically enter Georgia only by its own decision, which is unlikely in the closest relationship between Georgia and South Ossetia.

                  And what, there is already a UN resolution on the inclusion of South Ossetia in the Russian Federation?))) Here it is necessary to figure out who collapsed from where ... The fact is that there is some difference between the concepts "de jure" and "de facto". In fact, South Ossetia has not belonged to Georgia since 2008, but there are corresponding legal procedures provided for by an international agreement, which Russia signed and recognized within the UN framework. Therefore, at least for the sake of respect for oneself, it is necessary to observe the rules under which you have signed. If Crimea was annexed to Russia in accordance with international law, then this fact unties our hands regardless of UN resolutions, but the issue with South Ossetia has not yet been resolved ... Or a referendum has already been held there and, taking into account its results, a petition has been submitted to our parliament ? Is there such a thing? Maybe I missed something?)))
                  1. poquello
                    poquello 15 May 2016 16: 34
                    +1
                    Quote: bovig
                    Quote: poquello
                    Quote: bovig
                    there is South Ossetia as part of Georgia

                    from oak collapsed? South Ossetia recognized Russia, ...

                    And what, there is already a UN resolution on the inclusion of South Ossetia in the Russian Federation?))) Here we need to figure out who crashed from where ...

                    recognized by Russia as an independent state, and not included in Russia, and this I live in Russia, and West bombed Serbia without the UN and further on its affairs
                  2. ultra
                    ultra 17 May 2016 10: 45
                    0
                    Quote: bovig
                    And what, is there already a UN resolution on the inclusion of South Ossetia in the Russian Federation?

                    Was there a UN resolution on the inclusion of the GDR in the FRG?
            3. sergey2017
              sergey2017 15 May 2016 09: 52
              +2
              It’s necessary to keep an eye on the bonfire so that a big fire doesn’t break out! Therefore, Russia is returning its presence to the Middle East! It’s necessary to keep your hand on the pulse of events, under control!
          6. Ronino
            Ronino 14 May 2016 23: 55
            +3
            peshmerga - looking into the eyes of death, it seems so ...
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          8. Leonid
            Leonid 15 May 2016 07: 26
            -1
            And you are a good specialist, he explained everything intelligently, but only in the Tajik video%)
          9. just exp
            just exp 15 May 2016 07: 39
            +2
            Peshmerga - "Going to Death" (on foot) on foot, merg (mortuary-death).

            and Ga is a movement. hence the teleGa, leg, road.
            1. kush62
              kush62 15 May 2016 11: 53
              +2
              just explo (3) Today, 07:39 ↑ New
              Peshmerga - "Going to Death" (on foot) on foot, merg (mortuary-death).
              and Ga is a movement. hence the teleGa, leg, road.

              More geese fly ha-ha-ha. Moving ha, probably moving forward means.
              So you can become Zadornov.
              1. just exp
                just exp 15 May 2016 17: 52
                +1
                Do you think Zadornov invented everything? Believe me, this topic is much wider and more ancient, and Ga is from Sanskrit. and Sanskrit has very much in common with the Russian language.
            2. Nikolay K
              Nikolay K 15 May 2016 17: 10
              -1
              is moisture and braG also from there?
              1. ICT
                ICT 15 May 2016 17: 54
                0
                Quote: Nikolai K
                moisture and braGa


                Olga lol wink
                1. just exp
                  just exp 15 May 2016 20: 19
                  0
                  Olga is Helga, translated as saint. Hell and Ga. moving to the afterlife.
                  in the book with which Zadornov began about the Russian language, Olga was translated as a stormy intoxicated drink. Ol = El + Ha.
                  1. ICT
                    ICT 15 May 2016 21: 13
                    0
                    Quote: just explo
                    like a stormy intoxicated drink. Ol = El + Ha.

                    yes, there’s just one friend
                  2. Mavrikiy
                    Mavrikiy 16 May 2016 05: 05
                    +1
                    Quote: just EXPL
                    Olga is Helga, translated as saint. Hell and Ga. moving to the afterlife.
                    in the book with which Zadornov began about the Russian language, Olga was translated as a stormy intoxicated drink. Ol = El + Ha.

                    Maybe. Braga and Ale are one essence. Fermentation is movement.
              2. just exp
                just exp 15 May 2016 20: 19
                +1
                moisture moving water, boiling water, that is, also moving.
              3. Mavrikiy
                Mavrikiy 16 May 2016 05: 03
                +1
                Quote: Nikolai K
                is moisture and braG also from there?

                Hee hee Well done. Well, GRAVE then for sure, from there. The fermentation process is not static. MOISTURE is a liquid that as you know the form does not hold, moves. And Olga from there and the Volga. So giggle less, but think more and find the answers yourself.
                1. just exp
                  just exp 16 May 2016 07: 56
                  0
                  The Volga used to be called the Ra River.
          10. Blackgrifon
            Blackgrifon 17 May 2016 18: 46
            0
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Normal hands)))

            Aha - normal - in the first Chechen they also got stained in blood, like the Turkish, like the Iranian, etc. All these "hands" should be kept as far away from our lands as possible.
        2. Mahmut
          Mahmut 14 May 2016 21: 31
          +22
          Beautifully flew out right on the fly.
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 14 May 2016 21: 56
            +14
            Quote: Mahmut
            Beautifully flew out right on the fly.


            Yeah. Aerobatics figure "Cobra" in Turkish.
            1. nesvobodnye
              nesvobodnye 15 May 2016 01: 28
              +5
              Quote: Polite Elk
              Aerobatics figure "Cobra" in Turkish.

              Triple sheepskin coat bent over. Performed by bending down.
          2. poquello
            poquello 14 May 2016 21: 57
            +9
            Quote: Mahmut
            Beautifully flew out right on the fly.

            and questions do not arise, what’s hit, anywhere
            1. Polite Moose
              Polite Moose 14 May 2016 22: 01
              +14
              Quote: poquello
              and questions do not arise, what’s hit, anywhere


              You can even conclude that the refrigerant was pumped to the air conditioner.
          3. raf
            raf 14 May 2016 22: 55
            +4
            Quote: Mahmut
            Beautifully flew out right on the fly.

            Horror straight into the rags! As my grandson says: "Age!"
        3. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS 15 May 2016 14: 40
          +2
          "Needle" is the best remedy for feeling unwell in a helicopter. yes
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      4. Aposlya
        Aposlya 15 May 2016 06: 22
        +3
        video deleted, failed to watch ...
        1. ICT
          ICT 15 May 2016 07: 56
          +38
          Quote: Aposlya
          video deleted, failed to watch ...

          1. Aposlya
            Aposlya 15 May 2016 09: 39
            0
            Thanks Andrew! hi
            That's what became of interest to me - the commentator on the video spoke clearly in some Turkic dialect ... Or does the Kurds have a language similar to Turkic?
            1. Leonid
              Leonid 15 May 2016 12: 08
              -8
              The commentator on the video spoke Farsi, or rather spoke Tajik, that is, he spoke Tajik, and what a pure Tajik! Tajiks have nothing to do with the Turks !!!
              1. Andrey K
                Andrey K 15 May 2016 16: 00
                +10
                Quote: Leonid
                The commentator on the video spoke Farsi, or rather spoke Tajik, that is, he spoke Tajik, and what a pure Tajik! Tajiks have nothing to do with the Turks !!!

                You, Leonid, are probably a professional in languages ​​and dialects spoken in Central Asia and the Caucasus hi
                True, I deeply doubt it, but still take your word for it hi
                Maybe you're right request
                In this case, it is no secret for you that the entire pseudo-nationalist rabble, all the "moderate oppositionists" from these regions, had support in the Republic of Turkey hi
                I think the course of my thoughts is clear to you hi
                I will not even give you a hint, but a direct reference, to one important circumstance: Can you clarify the fate of the Group 24 organization, which was directly financed by Turkey, recognized as extremist in Tajikistan? request
                How many Tajiks were in Turkey and what are they doing now? request
                1. Leonid
                  Leonid 15 May 2016 16: 37
                  -4
                  Unlike you, a couch expert, of whom there has been a lot of divorce lately, I am not a specialist in languages ​​and dialects, but the language I heard from childhood, which my friends spoke, and when I myself spoke, unfortunately, for years ago I practically forgot, I can remember. As for your train of thought, I am not an expert in secret conspiracies; you better know who, where and how. What is the State Department again? :)
                  1. Andrey K
                    Andrey K 15 May 2016 16: 50
                    +10
                    Quote: Leonid
                    Unlike you, a couch expert, of whom there has been a lot of divorce lately, I am not a specialist in languages ​​and dialects, but the language I heard from childhood, which my friends spoke, and when I myself spoke, unfortunately, for years ago I practically forgot, I can remember. As for your train of thought, I am not an expert in secret conspiracies; you better know who, where and how. What is the State Department again? :)

                    Leonid, you’re a new person here, so for a start I will take the liberty of explaining to you some of the nuances of communicating on the site, unlike many colleagues, I have a couple of minutes to devote time to you hi
                    1. This site is not for squabbles, but for substantive discussion on a given topic, the topic is indicated in the article. Therefore, leave the labels "sofa expert" and so on for people who are "on the same wavelength" with you. Your boorish behavior will not be appreciated here and in the end will simply be blocked. You probably made a mistake with the sitehi
                    2. Behave correctly, here no one owes you anything hi
                  2. Andrey K
                    Andrey K 15 May 2016 17: 21
                    +5
                    Quote: Leonid
                    Unlike you, a couch expert, of whom there has been a lot of divorce lately, I am not a specialist in languages ​​and dialects, but the language I heard from childhood, which my friends spoke, and when I myself spoke, unfortunately, for years ago I practically forgot, I can remember. As for your train of thought, I am not an expert in secret conspiracies; you better know who, where and how. What is the State Department again? :)

                    You spread throughout the branch that you heard Farsi in the video and this is Farsi Tajik ... laughing
                    I asked you one specific question, to which you instead of answering began to be rude ... laughing
                    Do you have something on the topic of the article? request
                    Or maybe you will still answer my question and will not "jump aside", since you have told everyone here for the "Tajik trace" laughing
                    1. ICT
                      ICT 15 May 2016 18: 20
                      +3
                      Quote: Andrey K
                      You spread throughout the branch that you heard Farsi in the video and this is Farsi Tajik ...


                      yes let's figure it out

                      1. does the same voice keep score and talk about "the cobra is gone"?
                      2. then at the end in a row the same word sounds, is it the same voice or not?
                      3. the word "soutrash" repeat is it Farsi? (if so, what does it mean?)
                      4.
                      Leonid Now the Internet is great and it has a lot of experts (and couches like me and the real ones)

                      after your applications about Tajiks, I puzzled Google through a couple of links, I got to the language experts (you were not the only one who heard "native speech" there), but most likely you were mistaken,

                      ZY

                      Therefore, leave the labels "sofa expert" and so on for people who are on the same wavelength with you. Your boorish behavior will not be appreciated here and will simply be blocked in the end.

                      slow down for now, maybe in something else your opinion will be interesting to us,
                      our site is good, interesting, just get off the political branch for now.
                      She is somehow for the bazaar.
                      otherwise they’ve already gone down to insults

                      Quote: Leonid
                      You turn to moral freaks.
                      1. Andrey K
                        Andrey K 15 May 2016 18: 55
                        +7
                        Quote: TIT
                        You spread throughout the branch that you heard Farsi in the video and this is Farsi Tajik ...
                        yes, let's figure it out ...


                        Andrei, (I greet you namesake), the fact of the matter is that in this tangle - the Kurds-DAISH-Sun of Turkey are all so coolly mixed up that it can be asserted unambiguously by the heard adverb FarsiIt is simply incorrect that the Tajiks have appeared there. It is one and the same that in Syria, more than a third of the commands on the radio air of ISIS are given in Russian - it means, based on this logic, there are Russians request
                        And to insult, poke and so on and so forth, you see, it’s not beautiful request
                        Leonid somehow "got crazy" very much, maybe got up on the wrong foot laughing
                      2. ICT
                        ICT 15 May 2016 19: 45
                        +1
                        Quote: Andrey K
                        Leonid

                        all crying
                      3. Andrey K
                        Andrey K 15 May 2016 20: 49
                        +5
                        Quote: TIT
                        Quote: Andrey K
                        Leonid

                        all crying

                        Namesake, well, like after that ... crying
                        Just took up reeducation, a man through time, even "you" began to write laughing
                        And then on ... stop
                        The spirit gave up and the trace caught cold laughing
                      4. ICT
                        ICT 15 May 2016 21: 17
                        0
                        Quote: Andrey K
                        And then on ...
                        The spirit gave up and the trace caught cold


                        Well, as I understand it, the admins demolished it
      5. The stranger
        The stranger 16 May 2016 16: 18
        0
        Of course one of the Turkic. But nothing to do with the tour. I mean, if you speak Turkish, you don’t understand a word in Kurdish.
    2. sergey2017
      sergey2017 15 May 2016 10: 03
      +4
      Thanks for the video! I could not see, they all deleted! The video is impressive! It feels like a Turkish helicopter was waiting! Well done Kurds! To the Turks our downed plane still comes around!
    3. Observer2014
      Observer2014 15 May 2016 10: 11
      +6
      And the video is successful! Quality! And everything is visible on it. Truly Kurds Allah heard in their prayers for help good
    4. Velizariy
      Velizariy 16 May 2016 09: 09
      +1
      A masterpiece!
  • Leonid
    Leonid 15 May 2016 07: 25
    -18%
    Why didn’t he take his revenge, sofa warrior ?!
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 15 May 2016 18: 12
      +3
      Leonid
      laughing "New" gray cardinal drew laughing Do you happen to come here from the "censor-elite-polit-world"? Lenya (vigilante) remember. It is convenient to work at the computer at the table and in the office chair! And at the expense of sofas. Do you have a sofa? Do you envy? laughing
  • Trotil42
    Trotil42 15 May 2016 19: 33
    +1
    For the Fuhrer nothing is sorry
  • 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 14 May 2016 19: 46
    +33
    Quote: dvina71
    Needle. Where did the Kurds come from?

    From the dilapidated warehouses of Iraq and Syria. Not everything that was stolen is fired immediately, some are sold, changed, etc. And they can come up for a long time and anywhere ...
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  • Isum
    Isum 14 May 2016 19: 48
    +65
    Quote: dvina71
    Needle. Where did the Kurds come from?

    The last thought of the pilot .....
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 14 May 2016 20: 03
      +20
      It's a shame for me for the Kurd.
      He cannot drink 100 grams for a shot.
      1. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 14 May 2016 20: 31
        +33
        Quote: Pereira
        It's a shame for me for the Kurd.
        He cannot drink 100 grams for a shot.

        Most Kurds profess Islam, a minority - Yezidism, Christianity and Judaism. So depending on what Kurd. Allahu Akbar did not scream, that is, he does not profess Islam, in other religions there are no great stringencies for alcohol.
        1. other
          other 14 May 2016 21: 11
          -9
          from where do they profess Judaism?)) why?) and Christianity from where !?
          1. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 14 May 2016 21: 21
            +16
            This is true. Most Muslims, and some are really Yezidis, Christians, and, oddly enough, a small part of the Kurds really profess Judaism. Check out any reference.
            And the Yezidis profess a hybrid, syncretic religion, where elements of Islam, Christianity, Zoroastrianism, Judaism and small local beliefs are mixed.
            1. Mahmut
              Mahmut 14 May 2016 21: 35
              +35
              He cannot drink 100 grams for a shot.

              He will smoke these 100 grams.
            2. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 14 May 2016 23: 15
              +2
              I read in the encyclopedia "Myths of the Nations of the World" that the Yezidis have the main cultural hero and at the same time a trickster - Malaki-Tauz, or Angel-Peacock. He rebelled against God, but He was blessed by Him, he died and rose again.
          2. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 14 May 2016 21: 23
            +3
            For the most part, Muslim Kurds are not fanatics, for them ethnicity is more important. In this they are similar to Muslim Albanians.
          3. Asadullah
            Asadullah 14 May 2016 21: 36
            +5
            from where do they profess Judaism?))


            laughing from where, from, from giyur!
          4. The stranger
            The stranger 16 May 2016 16: 33
            +1
            And when Spain drove the Jews away, Turkey sheltered them. From there, Judaism. And Christianity comes from Syria, and in later times, probably from exiles. In the Ottoman Empire in Anadol, where the Kurds, the masses exiled Christian rebels. Tens of thousands. The Turks didn’t kill all Christians at all, but after the XVIIth century, it seemed, only civil servants were recruited from them, and ethnic Turks were forbidden to occupy such posts. For congenital dullness and genetic corruption. Well, as they knew how - they tried to modernize.
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 14 May 2016 20: 46
        +3
        Quote: Pereira
        It's a shame for me for the Kurd. He can’t drink 100 grams per shot.

        Well, I don’t know, today with the Kurdish they drank bacon
      3. Dam
        Dam 14 May 2016 20: 57
        +13
        Kurd Petrova can be when no one sees
      4. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 14 May 2016 22: 08
        +3
        Quote: Pereira
        It's a shame for me for the Kurd.
        He cannot drink 100 grams for a shot.


        It depends on who he had in his mentors. If the instructors were not very tanned, then there may well be an air defense fighter and 200g. wave without a snack.
      5. Leonid
        Leonid 15 May 2016 07: 41
        -16%
        The video is Tajik. He can’t, but you can, in fact, you don’t know anything more :)
        1. poquello
          poquello 15 May 2016 13: 24
          +2
          Quote: Leonid
          The video is Tajik. ...

          as one hedgehog said, getting off a cactus, "life is deceiving", what if there is a Bukharian Jew?
          1. Leonid
            Leonid 15 May 2016 15: 04
            -1
            It is possible, but even if a Bukhara Jew is on the video, he speaks Tajik, but where are the Kurds? :)
            1. poquello
              poquello 15 May 2016 16: 21
              +3
              Quote: Leonid
              It is possible, but even if a Bukhara Jew is on the video, he speaks Tajik, but where are the Kurds? :)

              if I count in Japanese now - am I Japanese?
              1. Leonid
                Leonid 15 May 2016 16: 38
                -4
                Go ahead and with the song, the main thing is that your partner understands you%)
    2. Snake AAA
      Snake AAA 14 May 2016 20: 25
      +13
      There is war, there must be victims! Erdogan should understand this! Well, the needles, our people whom only in the Middle East didn’t arm, so the Americans and their henchmen didn’t have to raise a beehive !!!
    3. lelikas
      lelikas 14 May 2016 20: 26
      +7
      As for the video, I’ll risk quoting the Cord - Like, and even Like, many many many many many Like !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 14 May 2016 21: 15
      +3
      Quote: IZUM
      The last thought of the pilot .....

      The last thought of the pilot was, why did I fly here ?!
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 14 May 2016 21: 47
        +15
        Quote: NEXUS
        Quote: IZUM
        The last thought of the pilot .....

        The last thought of the pilot was, why did I fly here ?!

        But all the same, the guys are creepy. Why didn’t people come up with to destroy each other.
        After all, when you watch this video you understand that in these seconds two people die, albeit the enemy ...
        I will not rejoice; may the Lord forgive their sins ...
        But you can’t teach a lesson to the Turks either. The scent is completely lost.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 14 May 2016 21: 51
          +14
          Quote: Barkhan
          I will not rejoice; may the Lord forgive their sins ...

          But I’m not happy ... But you have to repay debts. And since our military or politicians didn’t do this, it makes our weapons. And I didn’t forget the burning Su-24 that was burning down.
          1. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 15 May 2016 09: 28
            +2
            hi And I have not forgotten.
          2. Stas157
            Stas157 15 May 2016 12: 06
            +5
            Quote: Barkhan
            I will not rejoice; may the Lord forgive their sins ...

            Quote: NEXUS
            And I’m not happy ... But you have to repay debts.

            Ah, I rejoice! I am sure that most of the videos here were watched with enthusiasm! Enemies cannot be spared; in World War II they taught enemies to hate.
    5. Andrey K
      Andrey K 14 May 2016 21: 17
      +13
      Quote: IZUM
      Quote: dvina71
      Needle. Where did the Kurds come from?

      The last thought of the pilot .....

      Probably in this thought of the pilot flashed: "Thanks to the Sultan, and what am I ... a bad man, in violation of the oath began to shoot his own citizens" negative
      And probably, I think so, the thought whistled: "This is the northern fur-bearing animal"
      1. kush62
        kush62 15 May 2016 11: 56
        +3
        The most famous animal lives in Russia, but can come to any country if they beg it.
  • Alex_Rarog
    Alex_Rarog 14 May 2016 19: 48
    +7
    Who knows a lot that sleeps badly))))
  • Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 14 May 2016 19: 48
    +13
    Quote: dvina71
    Where did the Kurds come from?

    "Needle" was supplied to a fucking cloud of countries, and to BV to almost everyone (Egypt, Jordan, Iran, Lebanon, Emirates, Syria). yes
  • Ramzaj99
    Ramzaj99 14 May 2016 19: 49
    +22
    3 tanks + helicopter = for half of the Su-24, we’ll take it into account ......
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 14 May 2016 19: 51
      +10
      Quote: Ramzaj99
      Xnumx tank

      Self-propelled guns.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 14 May 2016 20: 02
        +14
        Hosh, like hosh, but it’s not enough.
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 14 May 2016 20: 16
      +10
      Quote: Ramzaj99
      3 tanks + helicopter = for half of the Su-24, we’ll take it into account ......

      It will not be enough! Where "I am the last donkey!"?
    3. My doctor
      My doctor 14 May 2016 22: 09
      +9
      Quote: Ramzaj99
      3 tanks + helicopter = for half of the Su-24, we’ll take it into account ......

      Who paid off? Have you paid off? You love people to cling to someone else's success. But this is not the point, a person always seeks and finds a connection where there is not even a reason to assume its existence. This is how consciousness is arranged, it’s easier to live, it seems that I found an explanation for the phenomenon, assured myself of the predictability of something, and thus acquired, as it were, control. So here too there is a problem - the lack of an equilibrium response to the plane shot down by the Turks and the executed pilot. Moscow's answer may be correct, but it seems unequal for many reasons. People cannot put up with this and cling to everything that is possible, just to convince themselves that retribution has taken place. But this is unlikely to calm them down, even if they completely assure themselves that they hit back, since the offense was inflicted explicitly and "publicly", and the answer was without "witnesses" and did not seem to be with their own hands. Although there are people here who will say if this was not our disguised scout, then he definitely trained the MANPADS operator and filmed. Yes, that's the way we are - wishful thinking not because you want to, but because it's easier to live this way.
      1. Ramzaj99
        Ramzaj99 14 May 2016 22: 59
        +9
        Quote: MyVrach
        Yes, here we are - we wish out for reality not because we want to, but because it is easier to live this way.

        Well, why ....
        Kurds rarely used something high-tech. Usually land mines, RPG-7 and Kalashi. And here in a month, they have a bunch of Cornets and at least one Needle))). And no matter what they say about the stolen warehouses, getting MANPADS is a very difficult task, since they are tracked by all the intelligence services of the world. And here is some kind of holiday. Coincidence? -Do not think)))
        1. My doctor
          My doctor 15 May 2016 18: 33
          +1
          Quote: Ramzaj99
          Well, why ....
          Kurds rarely used something high-tech. Usually land mines, RPG-7 and Kalashi. And here in a month, they have a bunch of Cornets and at least one Needle))). And no matter what they say about the stolen warehouses, getting MANPADS is a very difficult task, since they are tracked by all the intelligence services of the world. And here is some kind of holiday. Coincidence? -Do not think)))

          And I’m talking about this if there is even a tiny percentage of the huge number of options where the MANPADS came from, we interpret it unambiguously. But again I’m not talking about this, the Turks committed an OPEN act of aggression, and the answer should be as open and unambiguous any secretive act in response is a manifestation of weakness and cowardice. Another conversation is if our relationship to Erdogan’s ambitions has changed. In this connection, we assist (including military) the Kurdish resistance in the fight against the genocide organized by the Turks. But there is no way to revenge for the plane and to look for a direct connection between them, too, as to blame for terrorism.
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    4. Shurik70
      Shurik70 14 May 2016 23: 11
      +7
      Quote: Ramzaj99
      3 tanks + helicopter = for half of the Su-24, we’ll take it into account ......

      We’ll reckon when the Turkish court sentenced Erdagan and his son to a noose.
      And among the charges of the verdict, in addition to theft, genocide and aiding terrorism, there will also be the shooting of a Russian plane.
      Moreover, it was the court, and the Turkish one, and not the bullet of the "unknown" terrorist.
      Then we’ll pay it off.
    5. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 15 May 2016 06: 18
      +1
      Quote: Ramzaj99
      3 tanks + helicopter = for half of the Su-24, we’ll take it into account ......

      three imported tanks, three imported helicopters ... of which there is still a thread, also three ... bully
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  • The black
    The black 14 May 2016 19: 50
    +16
    Kurds stuck our "Needle" in Perdogan's ass. Start ....
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 14 May 2016 22: 56
      +2
      In fairy tales it is accepted that the needle in the egg, the egg in the duck, etc.
      And then the needle in the cobra.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 14 May 2016 19: 54
    +9
    winked God sent.
    1. meriem1
      meriem1 14 May 2016 20: 16
      +1
      Quote: Captive
      winked God sent.


      smile Allah is at war saying Great!
  • Ivan Ivanych
    Ivan Ivanych 14 May 2016 19: 54
    +5
    From the camel)
  • The black
    The black 14 May 2016 19: 58
    +2
    Needle. Where did the Kurds come from?
    Well, you never know from whom they could buy it repeat
  • Smit713
    Smit713 14 May 2016 20: 11
    +5
    Indeed, where did the Kurds get the "Needle", and the daish "Javelin". This is our symmetric answer to the p.i.d.s.o.s.a.m.
    1. ultra
      ultra 17 May 2016 11: 23
      0
      Quote: Smit713
      And the truth is, where did the Kurds get the "Needle",

      In Iraq, a lot of things went aside. All the same, deliveries from Russia are unlikely, it is a very dangerous piece of MANPADS for civilian airliners.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 14 May 2016 20: 13
    +5
    Quote: dvina71
    Needle. Where did the Kurds come from?

    Allah sent.
  • Vadivak
    Vadivak 14 May 2016 20: 22
    +17
    Quote: dvina71
    Needle. Where did the Kurds come from?

    in November, the 2015 Kurds asked Russia for MANPADS offering to avenge the Su-24 and the 04.12.2015 Russian AN cargo plane dropped five tons of military aid to the Kurds from the Democratic Union Party in the Syrian city of Aleppo. A set of weapons and ammunition should help the peshmerga clean out Daish * terrorists from the section of the Syrian-Turkish border between Aazaz and Jerablus in order to close the "window" of militants in Turkey, what exactly was silent in that premise
    1. ICT
      ICT 14 May 2016 20: 27
      +1
      Quote: Vadivak
      peshmerga


      pemshega and the Syrian-Turkish border are different things, pemshega is supplied from NATO,

      and in Syria YPG AND IN PRINCIPLE THEY ALSO ALREADY UNDER NATO
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 14 May 2016 20: 41
        +3
        Quote: TIT
        pemshega and the Syrian-Turkish border are different things, pemshega is supplied from NATO,

        and in Syria YPG AND IN PRINCIPLE THEY ALSO ALREADY UNDER NATO

        According to Sergey Lavrov, Russia responded to requests from the official governments of Syria and Iraq, and assistance to the Kurds is carried out in agreement with Baghdad

        1. ICT
          ICT 14 May 2016 20: 46
          +1
          in southeast Turkey a few kilometers from the border with Iraq.

          and there in general the PKK SNIMI in general at the level of Kurdish politicians, neither Iraq nor Syria are at odds.

          (but the argument one way or another will come out empty because we are only wondering where it came from)
  • dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 14 May 2016 20: 25
    +1
    This is called a boomerang .. And where exactly is the story silent. Copies of our weapons are made all over the world, from Poland and Bulgaria to China ..
    Quote: dvina71
    Needle. Where did the Kurds come from?
  • Andrey K
    Andrey K 14 May 2016 20: 36
    +6
    Quote: dvina71
    Needle. Where did the Kurds come from?

    Allah sent wassat
    Iraqi and local Turkish, with supplies from Jordan, Voentorg request
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 14 May 2016 23: 01
      +1
      From the same place, where a piece of cheese came from a raven. In the famous fable of Krylov.
  • Portolan
    Portolan 14 May 2016 20: 45
    +2
    easy prey for the needle, nefig Kurds shoot.
  • Dam
    Dam 14 May 2016 20: 56
    +4
    Very long awaited news! Tomatoes do not get rid of
  • pvv113
    pvv113 14 May 2016 21: 27
    +3
    Back in November, the Kurds requested MANPADS from Russia and promised to make a no-fly zone for the Turks
    http://www.newsli.ru/news/world/politika/18675?utm_campaign=transit&utm_source=m
    irtesen & utm_medium = news & from = mirtesen
    And why not?
  • Asadullah
    Asadullah 14 May 2016 21: 34
    +1
    Needle. Where did the Kurds come from?


    laughing laughing The grandmother in the parcel sent along with the jam!

    Beauties, Ach mined. I have a special account for Acham. It was a pity the prospects were not visible, but the operator was waiting for the side to drop and turn around. As I understand it, Ah didn’t even shoot out with pipikes?
    1. ultra
      ultra 17 May 2016 11: 25
      0
      This is not Apache, but Cobra. hi
  • Fedor
    Fedor 14 May 2016 21: 43
    +2
    The wind blew. Northern.
  • Seren
    Seren 14 May 2016 22: 06
    +10
    . For reference: today the AH-1 Cobra helicopters are in service with a number of countries around the world. In addition to Turkey, these helicopters are used by the armies of the USA, Israel, Jordan, Japan, Bahrain, Iran, Pakistan, Spain and others. The crew of the helicopter is 2 people. The maximum speed is 315 km / h, the static ceiling is about 3,7 km. The helicopter has been manufactured since the 60s of the last century.


    In Israel, Cobras are retired and donated to Jordan.
    PS Glad for the Kurds and Perdogan)))
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 15 May 2016 10: 22
      0
      Presented? And why such generosity?
  • Edvagan
    Edvagan 14 May 2016 22: 08
    0
    MANPADS is for a reason)))))))))
  • mr.fafes
    mr.fafes 14 May 2016 22: 24
    +2
    Stupid question.
    There is still not only silt.
    http://24na8.ru/pages/article/011715-rossija-postavila-pervuju-partiju-oruzhijam
    -irakskim-kurdam #!
  • Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 14 May 2016 23: 15
    +3
    Remember someone said that the Turks alone will not get off with tomatoes? I think it’s from there ... So we reckoned for our own ... Whether there will still be ... I think the account is not closed ...
  • kapitan92
    kapitan92 14 May 2016 23: 32
    +5
    Quote: dvina71
    Needle. Where did the Kurds come from?

    This yours? My. Where from? From there. c / f "Brilliant hand".
    The process has gone! good
  • Zamachus
    Zamachus 14 May 2016 23: 37
    +1
    Obviously the humanitarian aid reached its destination and immediately RESULT
  • Simple
    Simple 15 May 2016 03: 13
    +2
    "where"?
    Why do you need it?
    For the Turks yet:

    Willow on the way.
  • Leonid
    Leonid 15 May 2016 07: 24
    -8
    I am more interested in why the Kurds speak pure Tajik :)
    1. ICT
      ICT 15 May 2016 07: 58
      +3
      Quote: Leonid
      they speak pure Tajik :)

      they in Chinese dialects can
      1. Leonid
        Leonid 15 May 2016 08: 06
        -4
        And I can cover it with three-story Uzbek, and I could hear Tajik, but that does not mean that I am Tajik or Uzbek, and I speak these languages ​​in everyday life.
        Kurds do not live in Tajikistan.
        1. ICT
          ICT 15 May 2016 08: 37
          +4
          Quote: Leonid
          And I can cover with a three-story Uzbek

          I’m only in Russian, but you should not go in cycles

          Quote: Leonid
          Kurds do not live in Tajikistan.


          Tajikistan 16,400


    2. Aposlya
      Aposlya 15 May 2016 09: 43
      +2
      Why did you decide that in Tajik? Which Tajik words were spoken?
      When the helicopter fell, someone shouts off-screen: "Cobra kat!", Literally from the Turkic translation means "Cobra is gone", or in this context, "falls" ...
      1. ICT
        ICT 15 May 2016 10: 54
        0
        Quote: Aposlya
        Which Tajik words were spoken?

        and which countdown is on? if you also understand
      2. Leonid
        Leonid 15 May 2016 12: 11
        -7
        Kurds probably shouted "Cobra kat", and those who knocked down kept the score in Tajik and without an accent! Still have questions?
        1. ICT
          ICT 15 May 2016 12: 38
          +1
          Quote: Leonid
          Tajik and without accent!


          I drop by my mom’s, and on her table are titlet brochures who are the Yezidis, culture, history, well, in short, everything’s
          I’m of this type from where, she’s been invited to the exhibition,

          Well, Vladimir, in the capital city, has its own Yezidi diaspora (there’s no Russian only)
          what do they deny the Kurds, but ....... why am I

          but if a person speaks a language without emphasis, it doesn’t mean that he belongs to this ethnic group, ask a Jew

          although maybe you’re right, so on the Kurdistan website in pemsheg this silence on this video
          1. ICT
            ICT 15 May 2016 12: 47
            +1
            Quote: TIT
            ask a Jew

            1. ICT
              ICT 15 May 2016 13: 15
              0
              Apparently in Turkey on earnings) But in fact, they believed in Kurdish. http://www.primavista.ru/rus/dictionary/abc/kurdish maybe you thought. To ten for sure. Checked.


              Thanks looked at the link. Yes, the account in Farsi and Kurdish almost coincide


              here people are also in languages ​​rozumіyut lol
              1. ICT
                ICT 15 May 2016 13: 24
                +1
                HPG. are all Tajiks? wink
          2. Leonid
            Leonid 15 May 2016 13: 14
            0
            Here you are right, but I do not remember that there were Kurds in Soviet Tajikistan. The Iranians were even there, but ... Of course, I myself am not Tajik by nationality from the TSSR. However, not Iranians speak, even though the languages ​​are similar.
            My opinion is that I do not believe in Kurds!
          3. Aposlya
            Aposlya 16 May 2016 07: 47
            0
            Quote: TIT
            Well, in the capital city, Vladimir has his own Yezidi diaspora


            I once listened to the speech of Satanovsky E.Ya., he talked about the Yezidi culture, it was very interesting ...
            By the way, the "thief in law" Ded Hasan is a Yezidi by nationality ...
  • parafoiler
    parafoiler 15 May 2016 08: 10
    0
    From there!)))
  • Chatlanen
    Chatlanen 15 May 2016 08: 26
    0
    Well, Erodogash will run to NATO - "They attacked me. Protect me"?
    But judging by the statement about technical problems, he decided to hush up this matter, otherwise he will officially mark himself a party to the conflict!
  • YARUSSIAN39
    YARUSSIAN39 15 May 2016 15: 10
    0
    Humanitarian Aid to the Kurds
  • garpastum75
    garpastum75 17 May 2016 14: 50
    0
    Demand creates supply ... Did not teach at school?
  • garpastum75
    garpastum75 17 May 2016 14: 55
    0
    Demand creates supply .... Did not teach at school?
  • ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 14 May 2016 19: 40
    +17
    With an initiative! Or is it still just beginning ?!
    1. avvg
      avvg 14 May 2016 20: 45
      +6
      If the Turks do not stop bombing the Kurds, if the Kurds have 9K38 "IGLA" MANPADS, they will definitely have a "rich harvest."
    2. Andrey K
      Andrey K 14 May 2016 20: 47
      +17
      Quote: ALABAY45
      With an initiative! Or is it still just beginning ?!

      In April, we grabbed our heads, the states threatened to supply MANPADS of the "moderate opposition" fool
      Then came confirmation that a couple of weeks ago, the barmaley in Syria had Chinese FN-6s am
      The Saudis, through Jordan and Turkey, transferred these "toys" to Syria negative
      In a week, the Syrian Air Force practically lost three fighters am
      And here is a message to amers with the Turks, the "answer" flew good
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 14 May 2016 21: 23
        +7
        Quote: Andrey K
        And here is a message to amers with the Turks, the "answer" flew

        In the folds of the terrain now it will not be possible to get lost ... there the evil Kurd now sits with Igla. And rise higher, where our Triumphs with Krasuhi and SU-35 are waiting. The Turkish Air Force is having a very bad life.
  • Thrall
    Thrall 14 May 2016 19: 40
    +10
    It is high time..
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 14 May 2016 20: 12
      +15
      And it was falling, how beautiful yes Hollywood should learn how to shoot bully
  • sir_obs
    sir_obs 14 May 2016 19: 41
    +9
    I once dreamed of becoming a pilot, but now, when such a person with a MANPADS can sit under each bush, I do not envy them.
    Although Kurdoa can be congratulated, of course, and wish you continued success. Well, help them with needles and things ...
    1. Leonid
      Leonid 15 May 2016 07: 43
      -10%
      On the video - TAJIK !!! Why are you all so stupid ?!
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 15 May 2016 18: 53
        +1
        Yes, everyone already understood your point of view, but why be rude?
  • nikolas 83
    nikolas 83 14 May 2016 19: 42
    +23
    For our pilot and for all the dead guys. I don’t feel sorry for the Turks
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 14 May 2016 20: 30
      +10
      Quote: nikolas 83
      For our pilot and for all the dead guys. I don’t feel sorry for the Turks


      In this case, these are not ordinary Turks whom you can regret, but soldiers who fulfill the inexorable will of their Fuhrer, in general, give Kurdistan!
    2. Leonid
      Leonid 15 May 2016 07: 54
      -13%
      Russians call Tajiks chocks. However, they themselves are lying like chocks, they can’t lift their asses. Tajiks shot down a turntable, Russians scream: for our guys. What are your guys?
  • kukan913
    kukan913 14 May 2016 19: 43
    +8
    as one character in the cult film said: Echo of War.
    1. nikolas 83
      nikolas 83 14 May 2016 19: 46
      +7
      By the sown wind, by the reap of the storm
      1. razmik72
        razmik72 14 May 2016 20: 01
        +8
        Quote: nikolas 83
        By the sown wind, by the reap of the storm

        And Perdogan said that the spinner itself crashed. bully
    2. ICT
      ICT 14 May 2016 19: 50
      +5
      Quote: kukan913
      The echo of war.

      Merkel, brought on Ukrainian Ruslans,
      Quote: PCF
      Photo is just a sight for sore eyes!
      As an addition to ZUShkami, it’s just lovely!
      Waiting for disturbing news of the irretrievable losses of NATO falcons


      waited for "small" lol

      http://topwar.ru/92442-rossiya-postavila-irakskim-kurdam-zenitnye-ustanovki.html
      # comment-id-5685323
  • Isum
    Isum 14 May 2016 19: 45
    +8
    Transformer did not have enough height to turn into a tank .....
    Cheerfully, he figured out the parts.
    1. Armax
      Armax 14 May 2016 20: 04
      +6
      Quote: IZUM
      Cheerfully he figured out the parts

      Yes, really.
      Test hit, young shooter.
  • Sobol
    Sobol 14 May 2016 19: 46
    +11
    Not only tomatoes get off!
  • ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 14 May 2016 19: 46
    +10
    This is for them for ours.
  • Andrey NM
    Andrey NM 14 May 2016 19: 48
    +22
    Pay attention - and no shouts about "Allah in the bar" ... This suggests that they are fighting for their land ...
    1. wandlitz
      wandlitz 14 May 2016 20: 12
      +15
      There is a proverb "Do not be afraid of the dog that barks, but be afraid of the one that is silent."
      I am not insulting the Kurds ....
      Kurds fight for their independence ...
      And throats tear horses on the Maidan and animals from ISIS-DAISH.
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 14 May 2016 23: 06
        +2
        Kurds fight for their independence ...
        The Kurds are fighting for their existence so far. The battle for independence is yet to come.
  • Ivan Ivanych
    Ivan Ivanych 14 May 2016 19: 50
    +6
    The memory of the fallen. Death to the enemies
  • nikolas 83
    nikolas 83 14 May 2016 19: 51
    +13
    Strange even thermal traps did not have time to shoot. They did not expect to see.
    1. Isum
      Isum 14 May 2016 19: 52
      +6
      Life will teach ....
    2. Prisoner
      Prisoner 14 May 2016 20: 07
      +4
      "Igla" (GRAU index - 9K38, according to the classification of the United States Defense Ministry and NATO - SA-18 Grouse (Russian partridge)) - Russian / Soviet portable anti-aircraft missile system designed to hit low-flying air targets in oncoming and catch-up courses under the influence of false thermal noise. The complex was adopted by the Airborne Forces in 1983. (c) Our gunsmiths did not make tea with their fingers. soldier
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 14 May 2016 19: 51
    +16
    Only today I wrote that the Kurds with the Turks will not fuss, the moment will be chosen and punished. And how he looked into the water! Ah well done !!!
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    2. Yak-15
      Yak-15 14 May 2016 20: 16
      +3
      Then you are there, most often look at the water))))))
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 14 May 2016 19: 52
    +18
    I am very fond of helicopter pilots. They helped out the most, and the youngest one flew in more "crocodiles" than he ate semolina in the kindergarten. And here it is not sad. Generally! It's even nice for some reason.
  • raketnik
    raketnik 14 May 2016 19: 55
    +12
    oh what greetings to the eagles of Erdogan ... BRAVO HERE IS THAT THAT ALL THE COUNTRY WAITED
  • MiRvSeMvDoM
    MiRvSeMvDoM 14 May 2016 19: 57
    +14
    Given that Turkey will never be our friendly neighbor, it would be worth adding fuel to the fire. Of course, I understand that this is not our method, but still ... they do not disdain this in relation to the Russian Federation winked And the Kurdish people bow low for stamina good
    1. Isum
      Isum 14 May 2016 19: 58
      +6
      And for straight arms ...
  • nikolas 83
    nikolas 83 14 May 2016 19: 57
    +12
    Probably on the censor and in the ruin of mourning.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 14 May 2016 20: 11
      +6
      How zrdogasha is a new brother. Ankara and Kiev are twin brothers! Ugh, b ... me!
  • Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 14 May 2016 19: 58
    +7
    Quote: dvina71
    Needle. Where did the Kurds come from?

    From the forest wink , of course lol
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 14 May 2016 20: 02
      +11
      Quote: Alget87
      Quote: dvina71
      Needle. Where did the Kurds come from?

      From the forest wink , of course lol

      Good "firewood" ... repeat
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 14 May 2016 20: 09
        +7
        Good "firewood" ...

        Siberian laughing
      2. Prisoner
        Prisoner 14 May 2016 20: 14
        +4
        Tse not firewood, tse ax. And the Turks collect firewood. And not even woods, but chips. Because of Erdogan’s cattle, two more poor fellows were killed.
  • Stas57
    Stas57 14 May 2016 20: 08
    +13
    second chinook
    under Porushka-Paranya
    https://youtu.be/ZThGtBLeDuU

    1. sabakina
      sabakina 14 May 2016 20: 48
      +15
      Quote: Stas57
      https://youtu.be/ZThGtBLeDuU

      I wanted to punish you for not being able to insert the link, but when I watched the video ... you got a medal! Below is your video.
      1. behemot
        behemot 15 May 2016 05: 47
        +1
        This is not a Bell AH-1 "Cobra".
        1. ICT
          ICT 15 May 2016 07: 12
          0
          Quote: behemot
          This is not a Bell AH-1 "Cobra".



          Quote: behemot
          second chinook
          under Porushka-Paranya
        2. UralMan
          UralMan 15 May 2016 07: 51
          +1
          That's right, it's not Bell AH-1 "Cobra"
          ------------
          and this video here
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 15 May 2016 12: 43
      0
      Quote: Stas57
      second chinook
      under Porushka-Paranya
      https://youtu.be/ZThGtBLeDuU

      Probably all the same under the "Polyushko-field". Maybe the Japanese sing, they love our songs.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 17 May 2016 12: 25
        0
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Probably all the same under the "Polyushko-field". Maybe the Japanese sing, they love our songs.

        Everything is simpler: the Kurds liked the melody "Polyushko-pole" - and they made their patriotic song out of it: B. Agiri "Rojava is my heart" (Kurd. Bengî Agirî - Roj avayê dıl).
  • BOB044
    BOB044 14 May 2016 20: 08
    +7
    What they wanted is what they got. Now the Turks will know how the Needle works. Well done Kurds. drinks
  • Yarik
    Yarik 14 May 2016 20: 11
    -1
    Impressive, yes. whatHowever, the pilots of the Air Force and Erdogan are not the same thing.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 14 May 2016 20: 19
      +5
      In this situation, the same thing! The pilots must have a headache among the Turks, not the Kurds whom the Turks are killing.
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 15 May 2016 12: 52
      0
      Quote: Yarik
      Impressive, yes. whatHowever, the pilots of the Air Force and Erdogan are not the same thing.

      Did he understand what he said? The pilots bomb the Kurds, fulfilling the will of Erdogan. And again, the liberal "must be distinguished"?
  • Yak-15
    Yak-15 14 May 2016 20: 12
    +8
    Well done Kurds, beat the Janissary!
  • leigos
    leigos 14 May 2016 20: 13
    -18%
    You know, half of you are the same as Ukrainians (who rejoice in the death of our soldiers) rejoice in the death of the Turk, that well done bring down the same. And for me he died, performing his duty, he was given the order he carried out. We are all human and do not rejoice at someone else's death
    1. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 14 May 2016 20: 27
      +22
      Enemies died - that means friends will live.
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 14 May 2016 20: 36
      +19
      Quote: leigos
      We are all human and do not rejoice at someone else's death

      Tell Peshkov, Pozynich, Prokhorenko and others. Their parents, relatives and friends. To sympathize.
      1. Dalmatia
        Dalmatia 14 May 2016 21: 16
        +4
        For Vladimir
        ________
        You did not understand the idea in the post eigos.
        The post refers to the fact that it is dumb to rejoice at the death of an ordinary soldier, even a Turkish one.
        We are not talking about any sympathy for the lost Turks.
        But to rejoice in the death of two soldiers of a hostile country is somehow too small for Great Russia.
        Here was a post about this.
        And you conceived for eigos.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 14 May 2016 21: 27
          +1
          Quote: Dalmatia
          We are not talking about any sympathy for the lost Turks.
          But to rejoice in the death of two soldiers of a hostile country is somehow small

          So how do you think this should be treated? request
          1. Dalmatia
            Dalmatia 14 May 2016 21: 32
            +1
            For Vladimir
            ______________

            How to work that some (Kurds) did brilliantly, but the second (Turks) did not.
        2. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 14 May 2016 21: 32
          +5
          I also thought something similar, but there were no words. Only I thought that I had changed, I wasn’t like that before. And then I thought that at some point the bowl was full, something happened, after which I was glad of someone’s death far and unknown, but there should be a last straw.
        3. Asadullah
          Asadullah 14 May 2016 23: 34
          +4
          The post refers to the fact that it is dumb to rejoice at the death of an ordinary soldier, even a Turkish one.
          We are not talking about any sympathy for the lost Turks.
          But to rejoice in the death of two soldiers of a hostile country is somehow too small for Great Russia.


          Sorry to interrupt, but I'm glad, for the soldiers are their own, and the soldiers of others are enemies. The death of the enemy will determine the lives of your loved ones and our soldiers. You rejoice in the fact that our people are safe, thanks to the death of the enemy. Great Russia in general is a damn thing, for its greatness is made up of millions of feelings of its citizens, their labor, their thoughts, their will. Each of these millions has its own tasks and mission, and it’s definitely not to mourn the soldiers of the enemy army. To do this, they have their near and dear ones, this is their duty, which our feelings do not affect in any way.
      2. leigos
        leigos 14 May 2016 21: 28
        -3
        hmm, you don’t even understand the meaning, I do not require sympathy, enough as idols to rejoice that a person died
        1. Pyokhar
          Pyokhar 14 May 2016 21: 41
          +5
          If you do not rejoice in the death of the Turks in a helicopter, then, therefore, you need to treat this with indifference or sadness. Are you indifferent to or saddened by their death? This is not a question, I’m serious: I just want to know your attitude to the downed pilots. Sincerely.
        2. Leonid
          Leonid 15 May 2016 07: 52
          -5
          You turn to moral freaks. Do you think it's worth it?
        3. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 15 May 2016 13: 04
          +3
          Quote: leigos
          hmm, you don’t even understand the meaning, I do not require sympathy, enough as idols to rejoice that a person died

          1. "how idols rejoice." Excuse me, probably to Dahl and study, study and study.
          2. "a man was lost." Children of Kurds, Donbass are killed by such people. Everything is clear with you - double standards. Diagnosis - Liberast, alas, is not treated.
    3. Yak-15
      Yak-15 14 May 2016 20: 47
      +18
      Well, the Fuhrer soldiers also did their duty. Will you be sorry too? In appearance, those who were in the helicopter also look like people, but they flew to kill, but killed them. This is the law of war. Enemies must be killed!
      1. leigos
        leigos 15 May 2016 07: 43
        -3
        When to read and understand, learn? Where does it say that I regret the crew? I compared the floor of the site with the same Ukrainian patriots, and that’s it.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 15 May 2016 08: 07
          +6
          When they began to kill people in the Donbass, I was shocked by the reaction of Europe. More precisely, from the lack of reaction, from the blindness of the OSCE observers. Since then, I rejoice in the death of modern enemies as if it were the German fascists who attacked us in 1941.
          Thanks to the comments on this topic, I realized this to myself. Thank you all.
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    5. serezhasoldatow
      serezhasoldatow 14 May 2016 23: 31
      +2
      More children will be alive!
    6. Stavros
      Stavros 15 May 2016 00: 29
      +5
      So tired of such tolerant citizens. He did a long job or something else, revenge for a Russian pilot should be much tougher. So that no Turkish scum would even try to rise into the sky.
  • Askiz
    Askiz 14 May 2016 20: 15
    +12
    I don't want to say that ((but the "dogs wife" flew in (I also want to watch this video every day)))) well, something like that)
  • Ivan Ivanych
    Ivan Ivanych 14 May 2016 20: 31
    +3
    I want to repeat myself on the topic of the dead military pilots of Turkey. They carried out the order and did not take a walk. Died like warriors. Another question is for what and by whose order.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 14 May 2016 20: 38
      +11
      Quote: Ivan Ivanovich
      Died like warriors.

      There are no questions, only tears I personally will not flood.
    2. Pyokhar
      Pyokhar 14 May 2016 20: 42
      +7
      It’s interesting, but how do you know that the downed Turks are warriors, and not punitives a la Banderlog?
    3. Morrrow
      Morrrow 14 May 2016 21: 08
      +9
      Died as punishers. What kind of warriors are they? Has anyone attacked the Turks?
    4. Asadullah
      Asadullah 14 May 2016 23: 39
      +3
      I want to repeat myself on the topic of the dead military pilots of Turkey. They carried out the order and did not take a walk. Died like warriors.


      I don’t care how they died. Like warriors or like who. Most importantly, they will not kill any of ours. There are so many third toasts for the life that you drink for everyone and die from vodka, but it never occurred to you to drink for the enemy. Let the mad dog drink for him ....
  • Ivan Ivanych
    Ivan Ivanych 14 May 2016 20: 33
    +5
    A SAM - nishtyak)
    1. just exp
      just exp 15 May 2016 07: 49
      0
      Пzrk nishtyak.
  • Comrade Glebov
    Comrade Glebov 14 May 2016 20: 33
    +12
    The earth let them, you bastards, be cast iron! I think they were not given a chance to survive. It is not good to gloat, but I am not superstitious, and therefore I rejoiced with all my heart. The Kurds will have many more such and all sorts of other Turkish cars to destroy and not a single Janissary to send to an audience with Allah on the way to their freedom. Good luck to them on their difficult path and may we never meet enemies.
  • Ivan Ivanych
    Ivan Ivanych 14 May 2016 20: 40
    -12%
    Turks are our neighbors. Whether we like it or not, it’s a reality. There is nothing to rejoice about. The enemy is not there
    1. Pyokhar
      Pyokhar 14 May 2016 20: 48
      +14
      Turks are not our neighbors, for Russia and Turkey have no common borders. so the enemy is there. laughing
    2. Odysseus
      Odysseus 14 May 2016 20: 50
      -9
      Quote: Ivan Ivanovich
      Turks are our neighbors

      Sorry, in what place are they our neighbors?
      Quote: Ivan Ivanovich
      The enemy is not there

      Duc, since 1985 it has been known that the enemy is in the Kremlin. But we are not talking about that now smile
      1. Ivan Ivanych
        Ivan Ivanych 14 May 2016 21: 17
        +1
        it's you bl .. the enemy in the Kremlin seems.
        1. Odysseus
          Odysseus 14 May 2016 21: 33
          +5
          Quote: Ivan Ivanovich
          it's you bl .. the enemy in the Kremlin seems.

          Do you think that Gorbachev, Yeltsin and K are fiery communists and patriots? An interesting, and most importantly peculiar, point of view. However, judging by the fact that you think that we are neighbors with Turkey, you do not know at all that the USSR has not existed for 25 years.
          Especially for you, the Russian Federation does not have common borders with Turkey. Your Captain Evidence.
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          2. just exp
            just exp 15 May 2016 07: 50
            +1
            and in the last 15-16 years, who is in the Kremlin? Gorbachev? elkin?
        2. Odysseus
          Odysseus 14 May 2016 21: 57
          +6
          Quote: Ivan Ivanovich
          it's you bl .. the enemy in the Kremlin seems.

          I saw your answer (which you later deleted). You thought that we have a common sea border, it’s not, but the mistake is excusable.
          I propose, dear Ivan Ivanovich, to point out the main enemy, Washington, and thereby reach an agreement.
          1. abrakadabre
            abrakadabre 14 May 2016 23: 16
            +2
            With the Turks, we now have a common border only along the radar field. wassat
    3. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 14 May 2016 20: 51
      +9
      They shot down our plane, killed our military, are fighting against our allies, support the terrorists, are in a block hostile to us, in the end, they have straits.
    4. Yak-15
      Yak-15 14 May 2016 21: 00
      +5
      But Fashington, it seems, is not our neighbor, but the most reptile and vomin! Here is not a linear dependence and does not depend on the neighborhood.
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 14 May 2016 23: 17
        +2
        By the way, unlike Turkey, we have a common border with the United States. In the Arctic and the Far East. But something doesn't smell good-neighborly.
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    6. brr1
      brr1 14 May 2016 23: 10
      -1
      This is not a reason to not kill them.
    7. Ivan Ivanych
      Ivan Ivanych 15 May 2016 06: 42
      0
      give up. useless to argue with the punks laughing
  • sichevik
    sichevik 14 May 2016 20: 47
    +17
    Test video. The shooter clearly worked. Calm and without fuss. And, most importantly, without any moronic slogans and chants. Soldier of his homeland.
  • Vaha
    Vaha 14 May 2016 20: 47
    +18
    The strength of this weapon is surprising. Such a small rocket and a helicopter to smithereens. And while the Turks were falling, they probably thought, "Oh, that's how the SU-24 pilots felt when we stabbed them in the back."
  • Odysseus
    Odysseus 14 May 2016 20: 47
    +8
    Epic video: Turkish pilots clearly did not expect such a situation. Still, the Cobra is old, but the Turks have nothing better. Although I'm not sure that Apache would help them in this situation.
    The funny thing is that the Turks have already announced that the helicopter fell “for technical reasons.” Now it is not clear how to explain what happened to them.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 14 May 2016 23: 19
      +2
      Although I'm not sure that Apache would help them in this situation.
      Perhaps Apache would not have just collapsed in the air and landed in one piece on autorotation. But without a tail rotor, they would be so unwound and snagged that it would still be doubtful to survive.
  • Olegmog
    Olegmog 14 May 2016 20: 47
    +6
    I feel sorry for the pilots.! But I watched this video five times!
    I'd like to look at the next series!
    1. Morrrow
      Morrrow 14 May 2016 21: 10
      +10
      The pilot destroyed the Kurds.
  • Pbs
    Pbs 14 May 2016 20: 56
    +5
    Sneakers!
  • 1536
    1536 14 May 2016 20: 57
    +6
    Turkish helicopter flies into foreign territory! It was shot down. What is surprising? Stop ripping everyone into terrorists! Terrorists entrenched in Washington and in NATO headquarters.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 14 May 2016 23: 23
      +3
      Terrorists - they fight through attacks on civilians. Kurds are clearly working on the military and government officials. So this is not terrorists, but rebels, partisans ... Call it whatever you like, but not terrorists. Yes, there are casualties among the population, but these are unplanned casualties.
  • lopvlad
    lopvlad 14 May 2016 21: 02
    +7
    The video pleased, not all the time the Turks kill the Kurds with impunity.
  • Muvka
    Muvka 14 May 2016 21: 04
    +1
    Although I hate Turkey, for everything they do, it still looks somehow creepy ...
    1. serezhasoldatow
      serezhasoldatow 14 May 2016 23: 25
      +2
      And when our attack aircraft fell, and then the pilots were shot terribly there?
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 15 May 2016 08: 56
        0
        Quote: serezhasoldatow
        And when our attack aircraft fell, and then the pilots were shot terribly there?

        And then it was scary. Well I'm not saying that just now.
    2. aksakal
      aksakal 14 May 2016 23: 48
      +5
      Quote: Muvka
      Although I hate Turkey, for everything they do, it still looks somehow creepy ...
      - War in general is a terrible and cynical thing, and you, if anything, on a military site wink Get used to it ... I advise you to start with YouTube with a video of "terrorist attacks", at first you will feel a little sick, and then nothing, even with surprise you will find that when in Kazakhstan the same ram is sacrificed and the carcass is skinned - and you compare it with what you saw on YouTube, then in reality there is almost no difference - meat and meat, forgive me for the cynicism. And in general, it is useful to get used to it, the Americans are not going to stop in Syria and Ukraine, they will go further, although they themselves are afraid, but they will go - they have no choice. So that later you do not have to feel sorry for every torn amer who comes to your land - get used to it and start right now.
  • atamankko
    atamankko 14 May 2016 21: 07
    +6
    Kurds are great warriors, and our help will bring them luck.
  • faterdom
    faterdom 14 May 2016 21: 08
    +9
    Whatever it was - a precedent that will force the Turks to change the tactics of using helicopters. Especially in the mountainous conditions of the Turkish-Iraqi border. Which greatly changes the balance of power and opportunity.
    We are also waiting for an attack aircraft or a bomber (I think the F-15 will not be used against the PKK, although I would like to drop the "one").
    Well, time - this factor obviously starts to play against Erdogan. The tourist season is going downhill, the Kurds can not be crushed either quickly (as intended), or in any way, the views to pocket Aleppo and Latakia, as well as the oil-bearing regions of Syria and Iraq are melting a little, with the Americans there are serious contradictions with Europe in future, too, I think another concession from Merkel could become fatal for her (in the sense of political death).
    One loyal ally is Ukraine Poroshenko, but this is how it can help Erdogan in practice - a big question.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 14 May 2016 23: 24
      0
      I think another concession from Merkel could be fatal for her (in the sense of political death).
      Sometimes the thought creeps in, that it is better physical, but not political. Evil must be punished.
  • tochila
    tochila 14 May 2016 21: 37
    +6
    So the Turks answered not only with tomatoes! And with regards to the pilots who served their state, Allah will repose their sinful souls!
  • AID.S
    AID.S 14 May 2016 21: 43
    +5
    In war, as in war ..
  • uyakub92
    uyakub92 14 May 2016 22: 05
    +3
    that's right. what did they think destroying the Kurdish cities they will not be rebuffed?
  • Redfox3k
    Redfox3k 14 May 2016 22: 13
    +2
    Quote: faterdom
    Whatever it was - a precedent that will force the Turks to change the tactics of using helicopters. Especially in the mountainous conditions of the Turkish-Iraqi border. Which greatly changes the balance of power and opportunity.
    We are also waiting for an attack aircraft or a bomber (I think the F-15s will not be used against the PKK, although I wanted to ...

    Turkey has no F-15, there is F-16D and F-16C
    1. Pyokhar
      Pyokhar 14 May 2016 22: 53
      +3
      Apparently soon and the F-16 will not be.
      1. poquello
        poquello 14 May 2016 23: 15
        +2
        Quote: Pyohar
        Apparently soon and the F-16 will not be.

        maybe it will, or maybe it won't - depending on how many needles and how they fly
  • akims
    akims 14 May 2016 22: 18
    +1
    Needle. Where did the Kurds come from?
    The issue price is $ 1 million. And now even less. You can get into an atom and not that. Two points "rapt znickli", and you say a needle.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 14 May 2016 22: 34
      0
      On the black market, Needle costs between $ 300000 and $ 500000.
  • Erg
    Erg 14 May 2016 22: 38
    +1
    Good luck! Good luck to the Kurds in their fair fight. Turkey, as the cradle of international terrorism, should be formatted.
  • 1234567
    1234567 14 May 2016 22: 44
    +1
    Portrait of a girl .. avenged her? request
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 14 May 2016 22: 46
    +6
    Amazingly powerful weapon. A missile is like a toy, and a helicopter is shattered. Now the Turks will have to change their tactics - they will stop ironing the Kurds with impunity. And the shooter is surprisingly cold-blooded. No fuss, strictly as taught. Gave a capture, counted out how much is needed, and ...
    I don't think this "Needle" is the only one. And I hope they are equipped with the necessary "fintiflyushki" to track the location ... So, just in case. The transponder is called. laughing
  • eleronn
    eleronn 14 May 2016 22: 51
    0
    Quote: Erg
    Good luck! Good luck to the Kurds in their fair fight. Turkey, as the cradle of international terrorism, should be formatted.

    Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, UAE.? And, I dare to remind you, our president handle this shit (ERDOGAN) just recently!
  • 4ekist
    4ekist 14 May 2016 22: 55
    +2
    Quote: Mahmut
    Beautifully flew out right on the fly.

    Minus one unit.
  • brr1
    brr1 14 May 2016 23: 04
    +1
    Ah yes Volodya, oh yes well done. + 1000 to karma.
  • Skubudu
    Skubudu 14 May 2016 23: 11
    +2
    MANPADS operators reward!
    Great advertisement for our weapons.
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 14 May 2016 23: 19
      +6
      Quote: Skubudu
      MANPADS operators reward!
      Great advertisement for our weapons.


      Give them a double kit from the manufacturer.