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Tank Competition

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A small selection of photographs taken during the contest for "Best tank European Platoon ", held at the training center of the American Army in Grafenwöhr (Germany)


Tank Competition




Competitions are held from 8 on May 2016 of the year and will last until 12 on May. Summing up and the award ceremony are scheduled for 13 on May 2016. Tankmen from Denmark, Poland, Italy, Germany, Slovenia and the USA were involved in the event





















































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  1. cosmos111
    cosmos111 28 May 2016 05: 16
    +23
    13 On May, seven tank platoons of six NATO countries participated in the competition.

    The Germans are the first place.
    Denmark is second place.
    Poland - third place
    USA - outside the podium. Fourth place.
    1. Forest
      Forest 28 May 2016 10: 00
      +6
      My heart feels that next year there will be no competition. Well, the Leopards additional advertising.
      1. cth; fyn
        cth; fyn 28 May 2016 10: 10
        +5
        Exceptional offended?
        1. Forest
          Forest 28 May 2016 11: 52
          +3
          Abrams anti-advertising is obtained. Too much PR was poured into the tank to drain. Although they can screw some rules.
      2. svp67
        svp67 28 May 2016 20: 25
        +3
        Quote: Forest
        My heart feels that next year there will be no competition. Well, the Leopards additional advertising.

        Why? Before that, there were competitions "For the Canadian Army Prize" and there "Leo-2" won very often.
        Interestingly, it is not the first time that the British have failed miserably in their Chieftains, even their parliamentary hearings were dedicated to this, but it looks like things are still there ...
        1. Forest
          Forest 28 May 2016 20: 44
          +2
          Judging by the Greek tender - the MSA is not in the line with the British. Well, mobility is unimportant.
        2. cast iron
          cast iron 28 May 2016 22: 06
          +3
          And if you remember that the British haven’t been riding the Chiefs for 25 years? They already have the second generation of the Challenger in service. The Chieftain is a tank from the early 1960s of the last century, still with homogeneous steel armor. Tank level T-62 (USSR) or M-48 (USA) with all that it implies.
          1. svp67
            svp67 29 May 2016 09: 42
            +2
            Quote: cast iron
            They already have the second generation of Challenger in service

            Yes you are right, thanks. Wrong. But the problems in the English tank building, my mistake in the name of the tank - does not cancel.
            1. cast iron
              cast iron 29 May 2016 20: 25
              0
              It would be strange if the ISLAND country did not have problems with tank building))) England did not have problems with the fleet before the US hegemony, but it didn’t work out with tanks from the very beginning.
    2. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 28 May 2016 10: 10
      +1
      Well, congratulations to the winners.
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    3. svp67
      svp67 29 May 2016 09: 53
      0
      Quote: cosmos111
      13 On May, seven tank platoons of six NATO countries participated in the competition.

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  3. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 28 May 2016 05: 34
    +3
    They’ll get involved in our tank biathlon, they know that it’s too much for them.
    1. Aleksandr72
      Aleksandr72 28 May 2016 07: 14
      +11
      So what are you - European tank biathlon (well, with American participation - where are you without them laughing)!
      At first, I thought who the tankers in Germany allowed the firing of guns from, even if the Bundeswehr Panzerwaffe is usually limited to laser firing simulators, and if they shoot from tank guns, the tank is then driven into a caponier and shot through a special device to silence the shot. This is so that at the local burghers, cows with a fright from the rumble of firing suddenly do not stop milking, and the hens, accordingly, carry eggs. At least I was told about this by our former Soviet, who had left for Deutschland, and who had served as a tankman in the Bundeswehr, and I have repeatedly seen videos of such shootings.
      And then I read - the American training ground and everything became clear - the Yankees in Germany can do anything! And from the guns to shoot at the landfills, too. The Germans did not surprise the first place (they showed themselves well in the Canadian Army Cup), but the fourth place among the Americans, who missed the lords, is beyond! And this is the most powerful army in the world!
      I have the honor.
      1. Come on
        Come on 29 May 2016 12: 38
        0
        Where did you get this nonsense about the shooting of the Bundeswehr tankers? Oh yes, someone said ..
    2. ftgad
      ftgad 28 May 2016 09: 15
      -23%
      Our people are jumping in their tank biathlon to participate, they know that this is beyond their reach.
      1. cth; fyn
        cth; fyn 28 May 2016 10: 13
        +7
        Can we compare biathlon then? And let's see whose is more difficult, as well as the results of the winning crews on similar exercises?
      2. Ramzaj99
        Ramzaj99 28 May 2016 17: 25
        +6
        Quote: ftgad
        Divers ours in their tank biathlon

        Who is yours ???
        OUR, all by the way were invited. And if they, - “NATO members” have stopped, and have arranged some kind of miserable semblance of biathlon, then this is their problem.
        1. cast iron
          cast iron 28 May 2016 22: 08
          +2
          In fairness, before the collapse of the USSR, NATO countries held general tank competitions annually. They just revived the old competition.
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      4. Uncle Misha
        Uncle Misha 28 May 2016 21: 14
        +4
        Well, yes, in such pokatushki on smooth asphalt paths with lazy shooting, we have nothing to do ... where do we play in their children's "war", we'd better be grown-up, on our tank courses.
        1. VIT101
          VIT101 28 May 2016 21: 38
          +1
          Quote: Uncle Misha
          Well, yes, in such pokatushki on smooth asphalt paths with lazy shooting, we have nothing to do ... where do we play in their children's "war", we'd better be grown-up, on our tank courses.


          Our biathlon is not perfect either. Who thought of such a way that with a missed shooting compensate for this by adding time? Is that a sport? This is a fight, and the miss cannot be compensated for by the speed of the route. I didn’t hit the target, I need to shoot from the distance at all, such a crew is worthless in battle. Sometimes it’s funny to watch how two tanks (both missed) compete who will reach the finish faster.
          1. cast iron
            cast iron 28 May 2016 22: 09
            +1
            Imagine, in battle, just one hit does not win this battle itself. Maneuver, attack, time and on-time action are no less important parameters.
          2. novic
            novic 29 May 2016 13: 08
            0
            After a miss, you need to force you to drive the circle at maximum speed according to the principle "you should not hit you must quickly dump so as not to get shot." And not to compensate by adding time.
    3. max73
      max73 28 May 2016 13: 13
      -8
      such competitions have been held in NATO for several years. they don’t get rid of, but simply do their thing, according to the order (as in any army) they do ... but on the shoulder or not, it’s more visible to your hat
      and yes, the article is negative, because on bmpd it was all 2 weeks ago .....
  4. Bogdarin
    Bogdarin 28 May 2016 05: 51
    +4
    As if, all the same, I would like to see them in Alabino)))). Tank biathlon with the participation of "pzkampfagen" would take on a completely different emotional color)))
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 28 May 2016 13: 20
      +11
      Quote: Bogdarin
      Tank biathlon with the participation of "pzkampfagen" would take on a completely different emotional color)))
      German tanks near Moscow ...? Yes, it already was. in the 41st they were disqualified from the battlefield and generally removed from the competition, not for a bad game, but for the obvious advantage of the Red Army. And our fourth tank brigade took first place for those things, it’s 1st Guards Tank Chertkovskaya twice of the Order of Lenin Red Banner Orders of Suvorov, Kutuzov and Bogdan of the Khmelnitsky Brigade.:
      ORDER OF THE PEOPLE'S COMMISSAR OF DEFENSE OF THE USSR
      About renaming the 4th Tank Brigade to the 1st Guards Tank Brigade
      Number 337 November 11, 1941
      The 4th Tank Brigade, with courageous and skillful actions from 4.10 to 11.10, despite the significant numerical superiority of the enemy, inflicted heavy losses on him and carried out the tasks set for the brigade to cover the concentration of our troops.
      Two fascist tank divisions and one motor division were stopped and suffered huge losses from the glorious fighters and commanders of the 4th Tank Brigade.
      As a result of fierce battles, brigades with the 3rd and 4th tank divisions and the enemy’s motodivisation fascists lost: 133 tanks, 49 guns, 8 aircraft, 15 tractors with ammunition, up to an infantry regiment, 6 mortars and other weapons.
      The losses of the 4th Tank Brigade are calculated in units.
      The excellent actions of the brigade and its success are explained by the fact that the brigade:
      Conducted combat intelligence.
      The full interaction with the motorized infantry and artillery.
      The tanks were correctly used and used - combining ambushes with the actions of the strike group.
      The personnel acted bravely and harmoniously.
      The fighting of the 4th Tank Brigade should serve as an example for units of the Red Army in the war of liberation against the fascist invaders.

      I order:

      For brave and skillful actions, the 4th Tank Brigade will henceforth be referred to as the "1st Guards Tank Brigade."
      To the commander of the 1st Guards Tank Brigade, Major General of Tank Forces, Comrade Katukov, to present the most distinguished soldiers and commanders to the Government Award.
      The chief of the State Academic Technical University and the head of the GAU replenish the 1st Guards Tank Brigade with the material part of military vehicles and weapons to full staff.
      People's Commissar of Defense of the USSR
      I. STALIN
      Head of the General Staff of the Red Army
      Marshal of the Soviet Union B. Shaposhnikov

      P.S. But the Americans they didn’t stand there.
  5. cosmos111
    cosmos111 28 May 2016 06: 15
    +5
    Germans Leopard 2A6.


    Danes, Leopard 2A5.

    Poles on Leopard 2A5.

    USA on M1A2 Abrams SEP.


    Italians on Ariete.


    Slovenes on the M-84 (T-72).

  6. Bogdarin
    Bogdarin 28 May 2016 06: 19
    +8
    Why is it LEO (not Abrams, not Ariette), with MG on the tower, who immediately launch Alexandrov’s music and the words of Lebedev-Kumach in his head? Genetics?
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 28 May 2016 13: 38
      +9
      Quote: Bogdarin
      Genetics?
      Of course, we also watched CORRECT movies. Not about the spiritual world of a German officer in Stalingrad, but for example the epic Ozerov. It is stored separately in my collection, and even duplicated on several media. You can find fault with the details, but the general message of this The film and the call for future generations conveyed there correctly, I believe.
  7. Dimitrii
    Dimitrii 28 May 2016 06: 41
    +9
    I do not want to seem stupid, but the quality of the roads on their tank range is better than on the way to my parents in the village !!! everything is so culturally clean)))
    1. Bogdarin
      Bogdarin 28 May 2016 07: 22
      +7
      That is why they will not go to our Alabino. For "Foreign cars" unsuitable conditions, however)
      1. Forest
        Forest 28 May 2016 10: 02
        +4
        Leo has good cross and there are training grounds there worse than our broken ones.
  8. staryivoin
    staryivoin 28 May 2016 06: 47
    +3
    Quote: Bogdarin
    As if, all the same, I would like to see them in Alabino)))). Tank biathlon with the participation of "pzkampfagen" would take on a completely different emotional color)))


    Sanctions however ... Panzerbrigades will not take part in the tank biathlon in the territory of the sanctions country. And judging by what they saw there is nothing special to show them ...
    1. Come on
      Come on 29 May 2016 12: 45
      -2
      Well, yes, of course, where are they going to firing from a standing position, at stationary targets, with their firing on the move at moving targets. And in a circle to ride with them and the spirit is not enough :)
      1. MORDVIN13rus
        MORDVIN13rus 30 May 2016 22: 34
        0
        Well, if you carefully watched the video attached to the article, then in the "enlightened" shooting is being conducted both from the spot and on the move. And then for the most part they smear, you can see from the hits. Well, ours also have a section in the tank biathlon, shooting on the move with 3 shells, with a search for a target, it's just not practiced at all stages.
        1. Come on
          Come on 1 June 2016 15: 52
          -2
          For the most part, it’s smeared by your fantasies and Wishlist, which you saw from the several-second video of the shooting of Italians in Ariet. The reality is that the crews of NATO tanks are staffed by professionals who are well aware of their work, the Russian Federation has just begun to strive for this.
  9. cosmos111
    cosmos111 28 May 2016 07: 00
    +4
    COMPETITIONS:

    1. Crews had to compete in overcoming an obstacle course with shells in their hands.

    2: Tankers competed in offensive and firing moving targets.

    3. MBT firing from place.

    4. Towing a tank while simulating a gas attack.

    5: Crew members were to make 10 shots at a target with personal weapons.

    6. Evacuate the wounded and injured.
    1. jjj
      jjj 28 May 2016 09: 55
      +2
      That is, they have no obstacle course?
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 28 May 2016 10: 41
        +2
        Quote: jjj
        That is, they have no obstacle course?


        About the strip ..., info., Did not see.
      2. MORDVIN13rus
        MORDVIN13rus 28 May 2016 16: 19
        +3
        So I thought about the same thing after watching the video. What kind of tank competition is it, where there is no obstacle course (where is the escarpment, where is the slope, where is some water ????). They ride along asphalt paths, such as a field plowed there, and crawl like turtles, without tears from the table you can’t even look. In a word: shame, not competition !!!!
        1. Come on
          Come on 29 May 2016 12: 49
          -2
          What is the meaning of this obstacle course? Or do you really believe that Leo2 and Abrams are afraid of dirt? :)
          1. MORDVIN13rus
            MORDVIN13rus 30 May 2016 22: 40
            0
            And the meaning is precisely there, the obstacle course was created in order to test the endurance of both equipment and the crew. The war, you know, is not a drive on asphalt paths, with a lawn. War is dirt, impassability, bumps, water barriers and other things. where the equipment works for wear and tear, the crew’s voltage reaches a peak, and so they drove up to the target, didn’t hit, they still accrue points, which worries about something, there’s no spirit of competition, no, when for the sake of victory the crew and equipment should give all the best not 100%, but much more.
            1. Come on
              Come on 1 June 2016 15: 47
              -2
              If you check the equipment on bumps and mud, what each army does in exercises, then what will these couple hundred meters give? You have to ride for hours. Despite the fact that in tank biathlon there is not such a passable obstacle course, a slide, a hole, a puddle, no one there is tested for wear .. Have you seen how Leo2 can move over rough terrain? I don't think the T-72 would have worked. But I did not see any shooting on the spot, or at moving targets of shooting, in the tankoathlon, in contrast to the NATO competitions. So your "hit-not-hit still protect", "paved paths" and "no spirit of competition" is some kind of stupidity. A tank battle is still primarily shooting on the move, at moving targets, with a high probability of hitting, this is more vital for the crew than riding in the mud.
              1. MORDVIN13rus
                MORDVIN13rus 1 June 2016 20: 50
                0
                You will not believe it, but when I was in military service I had the opportunity to ride on various types of GM. In Novosib, he even had the opportunity to ride on the T-72, and along the intersection he drives no worse than your beloved Lelik. And note, tank battle is not shooting on the move, and even more so with a high probability of hitting, since when moving, the accuracy of hitting tends from 1 to 0, depending on speed, and it doesn’t matter which stray you have installed. Competent tank battle, this is a properly organized ambush. And the fact that you did not see firing at our biathlon on the move is your problem. Look at last year’s stage, maybe you won’t see firing there either https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vddpIMQmWbc
                1. Come on
                  Come on 2 June 2016 11: 21
                  -1
                  What are you telling me about a tank battle? Moreover, according to some ideas from war films about the Second World War. :)) It is the speed of detection and, if possible, hitting from the first shot is most important today. If the tank has a modern MSA, then on the move. That is, it is very important what "pribluda" you have installed, why is it not important? And how do you know about something worse than the T-72 than the Leo2 in motion or not? Now, judging by the Poles, whose PT-91 is one of the most successful T-72s, it is worse, they could not keep up with Leo, so the Poles decided to abandon them and bought another Leo2. I understand that the vulnerable psyche of a jingoistic patriot is about objectivity, but still adjusting reality to fit your Wishlist can be fraught with consequences a la 41. Do you think that over the past 2 years the professionalism of Russian tankers has increased significantly? Or did Shoigu just blah blah bred when he criticized the backwardness in tank training of crews from the west?
                  1. MORDVIN13rus
                    MORDVIN13rus 2 June 2016 18: 33
                    0
                    And what does your notorious patriotism uro? As for objectivity, I didn’t notice the desire of your favorite gay players to take part in the Russian tank competition. China (to do with its technology), India agreed, but these enlightened ones didn’t. And about military films about the Great Patriotic War, and ideas about them, do not touch the classics, for this it can fly into the face. And I visit the training grounds every year, on duty, and I see everything with my own eyes, and the fact that the professionalism of our army is at the proper level is a fact, and will be higher in some positions.
                    1. Come on
                      Come on 2 June 2016 21: 21
                      -2
                      Quote: MORDVIN13rus
                      And about military films about the Great Patriotic War, and ideas about them, do not touch the classics, for this it can fly into the face


                      Quote: MORDVIN13rus
                      And what does your notorious patriotism uro?


                      I am of little interest in your vulnerable feelings of a film fetishist, the most cheers of a patriot. In this sense, you are not far from the Islamists, those are ready to kill because of the "bad word" about the Koran, you are for the cinema ... this is a clinic. Well, your joyful tongue twisters about how everything is super, but what is there super, ultra super, but the comments are hot :) On the account of the desire for participation of the NATO countries' team ... Emm, how do you imagine this? Although, until 2010-11, the participation of NATO crews would be possible. But now, judging by the rhetoric of all parties, what kind of biathlon is there?
                  2. AllXVahhaB
                    AllXVahhaB 6 June 2016 15: 14
                    0
                    Quote: Yeah, well.
                    may be fraught with consequences a la 41

                    "a la 41" ended "a la 45" !!! Remind you whose flag was hoisted over whose capital ??? That you don't learn anything at all ...
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  10. mervino2007
    mervino2007 28 May 2016 07: 06
    +6
    An interesting form of competition is between tank platoons. I would like to know their conditions. And yet: I know that in their competitions there is an exercise - finding and destroying a goal. We do not have.....
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  12. Blondy
    Blondy 28 May 2016 08: 38
    +7
    Yes, I’m both hands behind their competitions, I complained that this remained the main, if the only type of military NATO (and ours) activity, and God forbid that I had to switch to its other forms.
  13. Seren
    Seren 28 May 2016 09: 12
    +4
    Quote: Blondy
    Yes, I’m both hands behind their competitions, I complained that this remained the main, if the only type of military NATO (and ours) activity, and God forbid that I had to switch to its other forms.



    Truth, verb this time, layman ...
  14. erased
    erased 28 May 2016 10: 13
    +4
    The enemy must be known in person. So we saw this face.
    The stuff is good. And some moments of the competition can be used with us, if they are suitable.
  15. andrewkor
    andrewkor 28 May 2016 10: 40
    0
    I remember not so long ago in a similar competition the Romanians "shod" everyone !!
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 28 May 2016 11: 29
      +1
      Not really, there were exercises and in the oncoming tank battle, Romanian tankers skipped the exceptional ones. The bison beat the abrams.
  16. Mengad
    Mengad 28 May 2016 13: 23
    +3
    Quote: Forest
    Abrams anti-advertising is obtained. Too much PR was poured into the tank to drain. Although they can screw some rules.

    In the following competitions, the rules will be changed for the parameters of the Abrams tank laughing And he will take an honorable 1st place laughing
    1. Come on
      Come on 29 May 2016 12: 57
      0
      What are the "parameters of the Abrams tank"? :) In terms of the control system and firepower, both Leo2 and Abrams are the same, or identical. The gaps between the results are not large enough to draw any strange conclusions. Everything depended on the crews and here the Bundes, as always, are on top.
  17. cyber
    cyber 29 May 2016 04: 53
    +3
    Have they ever hit the target? No hits on video laughing
    Where are the mud baths at the landfill? Where are the deep ruts?
    PS. Ricochet well captured, 500-600 meters ricochet.
    1. Come on
      Come on 29 May 2016 13: 02
      -1
      These are Italians in their Ariet, the last place, if not mistaken.