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Rosoboronexport: Russia does not intend to ignore the facts of gun piracy

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At the military exhibition SOFEX-2016 held in Amman, “pirated” copies of the Russian weaponsthat are exhibited by some countries under the guise of their own developments, reports Rossiyskaya Gazeta with reference to the head of the security department of Rosoboronexport, Valery Varlamov.




“During the exhibition, we once again became convinced of the existence of unfair competition: I will not call countries on the stands - even our production shells stood and (with our) marking”,
said Varlamov.

According to him, “official protests have not yet been announced,” but Russia “will fight against unscrupulous arms exports and just will not leave it.”

The newspaper notes that in Jordan, Russia presented not only small arms, but heavy weapons.

“Considering the scale of today's regional calls and the increased interest on the part of foreign partners in Russian military equipment, we decided to expand the nomenclature of the submitted samples. We offer weapons that are guaranteed to ensure the superiority of national security forces over large, well-equipped and trained terrorist groups, ”Varlamov said.

In its release, Rosoboronexport noted that “foreign customers have shown increased interest in the export version of the Su-34 fighter-bomber, the Vienna’s self-propelled automated artillery system, tank T-90MS, BTR-82A armored personnel carrier and BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicle. ”

In addition, potential customers were interested in the Kornet-E / EM anti-tank complex, the TOC-1 heavy flamethrower, the Uran-6 demining complex and the Gall mortar.
Photos used:
www.arms-expo.ru
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  1. dsm100
    dsm100 13 May 2016 11: 47
    +8
    It would be interesting to know how they will fight piracy ?! AK 47 releases half the world, if not more. And we ourselves at one time gave design documentation to everyone who was not lazy.
    1. vodolaz
      vodolaz 13 May 2016 11: 52
      +3
      Quote: dsm100
      It would be interesting to know how they will fight piracy ?! AK 47 releases half the world, if not more. And we ourselves at one time gave design documentation to everyone who was not lazy.

      Well copy AK is not a lot of mind. Question in quality. Well, you have to fight in the legal plane.
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 13 May 2016 11: 56
        +4
        Nobody recognized the 404 country;). Well, in addition to claims, it is necessary to develop and promote new weapons.
        1. poquello
          poquello 13 May 2016 12: 47
          +3
          Quote: lelikas
          Nobody recognized the 404 country;). Well, in addition to claims, it is necessary to develop and promote new weapons.

          ahem, ahem
          Pakistan completely removed unlicensed Russian weapons from the international arms exhibition in Istanbul, RIA Novosti reported on Thursday, April 30.

          On April 27, on the first day of the exhibition, Russian military experts saw unlicensed copies of a Kalashnikov assault rifle, an RPG-7 hand grenade launcher, and a D-122 30 mm artillery shell on the stand of the Pakistani delegation. The Russian side demanded that counterfeit samples be removed.

          On April 29, Pakistanis removed a Kalashnikov assault rifle, but the grenade launcher and shell remained on the stand until April 30.

          http://army.lv/ru/rpg-7/420/18516
      2. CORNET
        CORNET 13 May 2016 11: 59
        +2
        on the stands - I won’t name the country - there were even shells of our production and (with our) marking

        This is the highest degree of arrogance ... Courts are of course a good thing (but a long one), but representatives would have to fill their muzzles (without witnesses of course)))))
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K 13 May 2016 12: 13
          +5
          Colleague:
          Quote: CORNET
          on the stands - I won’t name the country - there were even shells of our production and (with our) marking

          This is the highest degree of arrogance ... Courts are of course a good thing (but a long one), but representatives would have to fill their muzzles (without witnesses of course)))))

          This is simply the highest degree of lawlessness. Until all these exhibitions, the organizers will let merchants with copies (and as far as I understand, the availability of products on the stands is consistent), so this will continue. That the specialists from Ukroboronexport with their clones of our small arms and artillery weapons, that the Chinese brothers with their lot of counterfeits, that for example the former Bulgarian brothers with their Arsenal plant - they generally filled up with ammunition and a rifle, a la Kalashnikov ", everything and everyone ... request
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 13 May 2016 12: 34
            +5
            Andrey K
            hi
            And don’t tell a colleague. So I would have stood silently and looked at
            on the stands - I won’t name the country - there were even shells of our production and (with our) markings, ”
            Yes, such a hi should have been raised! And to hell with that political correctness. angry Let the magazines let them take it off. To prevent it and charge it to the head of that delegation. Once they would have done so. Next time this would not have happened. And then he complains here. Ugh
          2. Starover_Z
            Starover_Z 13 May 2016 17: 12
            +2
            Quote: Andrey K
            This is simply the highest degree of lawlessness. While at all these exhibitions, the organizers will let dealers with copies (and as far as I understand, the availability of products on the stands is consistent)

            noticed “pirated” copies of Russian weapons, which are exhibited by some countries under the guise of their own development,

            I offer potential buyers of such goods to pay with traders copies of their money, you can even with their numbers!
    2. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 13 May 2016 11: 58
      +1
      Quote: dsm100
      It would be interesting to know how they will fight piracy ?! AK 47 releases half the world, if not more. And we ourselves at one time gave design documentation to everyone who was not lazy.

      It's about something else, as I understand it, that there, in general, the ammunition of our production was put up under the guise of ours.
      As the saying goes, guess the country three times ... laughing
      1. Bath
        Bath 13 May 2016 17: 21
        0
        Ah Chinese ah yes well done)))
    3. vlad66
      vlad66 13 May 2016 12: 06
      +9
      Quote: dsm100
      It would be interesting to know how they will fight piracy?

      Well, if so, then there will definitely be no sense:
      no official protests have yet been announced, "but Russia" will fight against unscrupulous arms exports and just won’t leave it. "
    4. HMR333
      HMR333 13 May 2016 14: 37
      +1
      those who are given documentation they have the right to sell! and we are talking about those who copy without permission!
    5. Limak
      Limak 13 May 2016 14: 44
      0
      Combat counterfeit weapons is simply informing the buyer of an unscrupulous seller. You don’t buy, I think, a second-hand car if you find out that it is stolen ... yes repainted, and the unit numbers seem to be different, the TCP is slightly corrected, but cheap .... What for you this haemorrhage, butting with the traffic police , lawyers, former owner?
      So it will be here.
  2. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 13 May 2016 11: 48
    +2
    A staff of very competent lawyers is needed. And lengthy trials in the courts of the West. Or the involvement of famous western lawyers.
    1. okunevich_rv
      okunevich_rv 13 May 2016 11: 55
      +2
      In the courts of the West, is it now the highest court? and if the perpetrators did not sign the agreements and cannot be defendants in these courts?
      China everywhere violates the copyrights of countries and citizens of different countries, spies and traitors in the first place, it is necessary to put pressure.
  3. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 13 May 2016 11: 52
    +2
    You can forget about AK already. He went to the masses.
  4. smith7
    smith7 13 May 2016 11: 56
    +1
    The effect of the fight against "piracy" will be only if for such tricks it will be possible with a 100% guarantee "will get in a melon". At the current level, this is only "preparing a diplomatic position" for negotiations. China is big ... Few of them have a "decree", and we have not invested money in the ammunition industry for 30 years. Draw conclusions. Who will make a Kalashnikov assault rifle, ammunition, and the Grad RS without a twinge of conscience. Yes, a lot more.
  5. -СтрР° РЅРЅРёРє-
    0
    As an option - polite people with a gift option ice ax, scarf, etc. repeat wink hi
    1. Doomph
      Doomph 13 May 2016 12: 26
      0
      Why so categorically? Just once, in front of the houses of the leaders of the country, which we will not call, these same ones will begin to break with our product labeling. And what? All is fair. It's not ours, it's yours !!!
  6. uskrabut
    uskrabut 13 May 2016 12: 03
    0
    If there are patents for the submitted samples, then prove the fact of piracy without problems.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 13 May 2016 12: 39
      0
      Well, what should I call it? Scientific and technical intelligence from Lenin to Gorbachev. Author: Sergey Chertoprud.
      http://royallib.com/book/chertoprud_sergey/nauchno_tehnicheskaya_razvedka_ot_len
      ina_do_gorbacheva.html
      Jacques Berthier. "Industrial espionage". Both states and firms are interested in this. Yes, direct copying can be proven, but if a little, not fundamentally change the appearance, a few minor details and a series of proceedings in arbitration will stretch. One arbitration admits you are right, the other the correctness of your competitor. China does not pay attention to * patent law * at all and buys licenses only for those products that he cannot copy directly.
  7. An64
    An64 13 May 2016 12: 12
    +1
    Why is there no protest, if the shells are "our markings"?
    Is it because we are so kind or, in due time, when delivering ammunition without thinking, did not stipulate a ban on re-export?
    1. old pioneer
      old pioneer 13 May 2016 12: 18
      +2
      WHY a protest? Who in the subject and so will understand and laugh ... Rupee for a hundred - Ukrainian stand.
      1. Petrof
        Petrof 13 May 2016 12: 38
        0
        Quote: old pioneer
        WHY a protest?


        in order to prevent this from happening on
        and do not give to make money on our weapons now.
        and disgrace at the same time - exposing as plagiarists who are not able to create anything of their own
    2. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 13 May 2016 14: 04
      +1
      Quote: An64
      Why is there no protest, if the shells are "our markings"?
      Is it because we are so kind or, in due time, when delivering ammunition without thinking, did not stipulate a ban on re-export?

      This is because most likely one of our "allies".
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  9. Volksib
    Volksib 13 May 2016 12: 17
    +2
    Oddly enough, the presence of effective weapons largely saves from "democratization", at one time Slobodan Milosevic was offered S-300 and fighters through Belarus. But Milosevic refused, which he later regretted. The large losses of the NATO Air Force during the bombing of Yugoslavia might have been pushed back or maybe they completely prevented the rampant of treacherous aggression against independent states. The conclusions have been made. Although India and China have incomparably greater power than Libya at the time. But they want to acquire the S-400. The independence of the arms supplier plays an important role.
    1. Petrof
      Petrof 13 May 2016 12: 22
      0
      Quote: Volksib
      Oddly enough, the presence of effective weapons in many respects saves from "democratization"



      if you want peace - get ready for war (c) the ancient Romans
  10. Basil50
    Basil50 13 May 2016 12: 25
    0
    The theft of * intellectual property * generally has a long tradition, but for some reason RUSSIA was reproached for the lack of such property. To listen to * democrats * and the sun rises in the west, today China is stealing everything that is possible, just like the Europeans, also in the * beam of democracy * dress up.
  11. Mercenary
    Mercenary 13 May 2016 12: 28
    0
    "at the stands - I will not name the country - there were even shells of our production"
    I will not be mistaken if I call
    1 Hohland - sells the remnants of an inheritance overdue but cheap.
    2 China - copies with speed (enuresis) even cheaper but much worse.
    Both of them are lawless and openly spat on the Piracy Act.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 13 May 2016 12: 52
      0
      Quote: Mercenary
      2 China - copies with speed (enuresis) even cheaper but much worse.
      Both of them are lawless and openly spat on the Piracy Act.

      Quote: Vasily50
      The theft of * intellectual property * actually has a long tradition, but for some reason RUSSIA was blamed for the lack of such property.

      This is not surprising in the East. The books on weapons provide examples of copying samples by Japanese, Chinese and other countries from the beginning of the XNUMXth century. A.B.
  12. drags33
    drags33 13 May 2016 14: 12
    +1
    The pirate country has not been named, but with 90% probability it can be assumed that our "non-brothers" are "developers" from Durkaina. These are their habits, their mentality, their trademark stupidity (the Russian markings have not even been removed!).
  13. Nelepost
    Nelepost 13 May 2016 14: 28
    0
    "at the stands - I will not name the country - there were even shells of our production and (with our) markings" - why then write this if you immediately turn on the back "I will not name"
  14. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 13 May 2016 18: 01
    0
    We will not call, that is, point fingers, although everyone perfectly understands who it is !!! I think dill has some right to this, because all the developments 25 years ago were carried out jointly, it’s cruel that the latest weapons are being started to be typed and copied.
  15. Sasha75
    Sasha75 13 May 2016 23: 51
    0
    In Syria, our old weapons use 122mm and 152mm Chinese ammunition as well as rocket artillery, and you can notice that look at the markings on the shells almost everywhere hieroglyphs, though I spent an hour and a freeze frame))). In the first, it’s not just one sale of equipment that is linked to the purchase of our ammunition other than S-400))). All Western contracts are linked either with the acquisition of a production license or with the obligation to purchase ammunition only from the seller or their subsidiaries and enterprises. Violation can lead to serious consequences, cancellation of warranty, the termination of the sale of spare parts for repair assistance and much more can. And that’s why the equipment is sometimes transferred for free))). Poor countries will always buy cheap goods or produce them themselves. And there will always be a country that sells decommissioned weapons and ammunition, as well as a country that buys it.