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Ukrainian "Doublet" at an exhibition in Amman

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Ukroboronprom at the SOFEX 2016 military exhibition held in Amman (Jordan) for the first time presented a full-size model of the Duplet combat module intended for installation on armored vehicles, the blog reports bmpd with reference to the Jane's International Defense Review.


Ukrainian "Doublet" at an exhibition in Amman
A model of a new Ukrainian combat module "Doublet" for installation on armored vehicles, equipped with two 30-mm automatic guns 3ТМ2, in the exposition of the exhibition-conference SOFEX 2016, Amman (Jordan), May 2016 of the year

The “Doublet” module is a very original design with separate installation of two stabilized 30-mm automatic guns ZTM2 (Ukrainian copy of the gun 2А42) in one uninhabited tower - each with its “paired” 7,62-mm machine gun KT-7,62 (PCT copy). In addition, 30-mm automatic anti-personnel grenade launcher KBA-117 (copy AGS-17) and four ATGM P-3 launchers of the Barrier complex are installed on top of the turret, ”the blogger writes.



According to bmpd, “a solution with the installation of two 30-mm guns is very strange, and it may make sense either to firing long fires (alternating guns to comply with the temperature regime), or to quickly switch from one type of projectile to another ( the case of loading each of the guns with a separate type of ammunition) ".

However, the increased dimensions of the module, its complexity and cost are unlikely to pay for these opportunities, the author concludes.
Photos used:
Patrick Allen / Jane's
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  1. sever.56
    sever.56 12 May 2016 11: 13
    +37
    They make "Azovets" - it turns out "Dung". Do "Doublet" - it turns out "Duplo" ...
    They are also going to make "liquid armor" for "cyborgs" and "avatars", the Kuyevsky magicians. wassat
    1. Michael67
      Michael67 12 May 2016 11: 22
      +4
      I really want kaklam of significance and glory.
      Well, they say, we are so cold - constructing, not at all defaulted and prosperous. It’s necessary to go to exhibitions.
      Zilch all their attempts. Pshik, I mean the one from the strain.
    2. Vend
      Vend 12 May 2016 11: 22
      +4
      “Ukroboronprom” at the military exhibition SOFEX 2016 held in Amman (Jordan) for the first time presented a full-size model of the “Duplet” combat module intended for installation on armored vehicles,
      It remains to do ship modeling and aircraft modeling. I think that's enough plastic. Cheap and cheerful laughing
      1. Michael67
        Michael67 12 May 2016 11: 30
        0
        Something she (the tower) looks crooked.
        Even the optics twisted ...
        1. DMB_95
          DMB_95 12 May 2016 11: 49
          +4
          Quote: Michael67

          Even the optics twisted ...

          So the "optics" they have from the intercom, like on "Azovts" laughing
      2. Lukich
        Lukich 12 May 2016 13: 18
        +1
        Quote: Wend
        It remains to do ship modeling

        already engaged
    3. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 12 May 2016 11: 28
      +13
      "Lyusya, I'm stupid!" The Ukrainians are harnessing, scraped together on the layout, it remains to pile it up on the Zaporozhets and in the ATO! Such entertainers! laughing
      1. Michael67
        Michael67 12 May 2016 11: 35
        +13
        I read their projects here.
        This is the next thing.
        1. Dmitry Toderes
          Dmitry Toderes 12 May 2016 12: 26
          +3
          I read their projects here.
          Here's the thing next


          This is the same Star Wars sand tanker JAV.

          And here is the "java" (the people of the desert) itself, is that not an ambiguous hint of who they (the Ukrainians) think they are?
        2. Lukich
          Lukich 12 May 2016 13: 20
          +3
          Quote: Michael67
          I read their projects here.
          This is the next thing.

          their several projects
    4. vkl.47
      vkl.47 12 May 2016 11: 39
      +1
      From the article it’s clear that this is all one big copy. Everywhere there’s only a copy, copy, copy, copy.
    5. lelikas
      lelikas 12 May 2016 12: 01
      +4
      Quote: sever.56
      They are also going to make "liquid armor" for "cyborgs" and "avatars", the Kuyevsky magicians.

      The cyborgs themselves make liquid armor, but it does not protect very much and it smells bad ...
    6. papas-57
      papas-57 12 May 2016 12: 51
      +1
      It is interesting how the warriors will climb inside, about the horizontal position of the trunks the hatches do not open.
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 12 May 2016 13: 22
        0
        Quote: papas-57
        It is interesting how the warriors will climb inside, about the horizontal position of the trunks the hatches do not open.

        this is the whole trick. false hatches. real bottom
      2. uwzek
        uwzek 12 May 2016 17: 32
        0
        Quote: papas-57
        hatches do not open

        Hatches are quite possible and service, for any types of maintenance. At least I didn’t see the outer locks of the opening there ...
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  2. Aliv
    Aliv 12 May 2016 11: 16
    +8
    Ukroboronprom at the SOFEX 2016 military exhibition held in Amman (Jordan) for the first time presented a full-size model of the Duplet combat module
    Well done Ukrainians! It turned out realistically! Menacing! It is necessary to equip all mock-ups with such mock-ups and conduct a battle with mock-ups of soldiers of the ogressor.
  3. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 12 May 2016 11: 18
    +3
    "armchairs" deliver ... smileit’s clear that the layout, but some ...
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 12 May 2016 11: 39
      0
      For each gun, a gunner with a chair.
  4. Andrey K
    Andrey K 12 May 2016 11: 21
    +8
    It's just "Doublet" ... laughing
    Well, not six trunks, hung? fellow
    Why disgrace a really, really already, good design school request
    Ay, "Ukroboronprom", and the specialists, then, adequate, where did they go request
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 12 May 2016 13: 24
      +1
      Quote: Andrey K
      Ay, "Ukroboronprom", and the specialists, then, adequate, where did they go

      lustrated. after all, they worked under the damn Yanuk
  5. Aliv
    Aliv 12 May 2016 11: 22
    0
    And the third chair for whom? For the governor?
  6. Art
    Art 12 May 2016 11: 24
    +8
    The 2A42 gun already has two-tape power, and switching between tapes (read between types of shells) is carried out almost instantly (move the lever to another position). So the use of a two-armed tower only to increase the pace and duration of fire
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 12 May 2016 11: 40
      0
      So the use of a two-armed turret only to increase the pace and duration of fire,
      but for this it is necessary to increase the ammunition, two reloading systems. that is, to complicate this unit. and if you follow your logic, then generally 6 or 8 pieces will be better.
      1. Art
        Art 12 May 2016 11: 46
        +1
        I was just looking for the advantages of this system and nothing more. You are right about the number of shells. Judging by the photo of the tower and my memory, the volume of the box for the projectile tape coincides with the tower of the BMP-2, therefore there are about 500 pieces, so it's hard for me to find the advantages of such a design!
  7. Arkan
    Arkan 12 May 2016 11: 27
    +1
    Such novelties are the convulsions of the once industrial, and now "agrarian superpower". Usually they do not go further than full-scale models, there are exceptions (BTR-3, "Oplot"), but failures due to the impossibility of producing in large batches and the build quality.
  8. Ilya_GN
    Ilya_GN 12 May 2016 11: 28
    +1
    “The module" Duplet "is a very original design with separate installation in auninhabited tower bottom

    Question: And who are the chairs for? In an uninhabited tower!
    1. vlad_m
      vlad_m 12 May 2016 12: 11
      +1
      For the tower dwellers. I understand that Pelevin wrote "Omon Ra" from 404s?
  9. Evpatiy.
    Evpatiy. 12 May 2016 11: 29
    0
    In addition to models, they do not work nichrome!
  10. drags33
    drags33 12 May 2016 11: 30
    +13
    The manufacturer of these weapons is Ukraine (a copy of Honduras)? Well, well ... The trunk is in their hands ...

    PS: By the way, they have one more "remarkable" development - a coaxial machine gun "Maxim" on a common platform (with a water-cooled barrel). Something they have a craving for mating appeared ... Why would it?
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 12 May 2016 14: 15
      +3
      Quote: drags33
      By the way, they have one more "wonderful" development - a coaxial machine gun "Maxim" on a common platform (with a water-cooled barrel)

      and we have Anka the machine gunner
    2. am808s
      am808s 13 May 2016 09: 05
      0
      Quote: drags33
      The manufacturer of these weapons is Ukraine (a copy of Honduras)? Well, well ... The trunk is in their hands ...

      PS: By the way, they have one more "remarkable" development - a coaxial machine gun "Maxim" on a common platform (with a water-cooled barrel). Something they have a craving for mating appeared ... Why would it?

      Yes, they are mating that year with p.in.d.osami mate.
  11. evil partisan
    evil partisan 12 May 2016 11: 33
    +3
    Ukrainian "Doublet"

    hahly, whatever they did - they still get the "dupa": either in the name or in fact ... yes
  12. Lester7777
    Lester7777 12 May 2016 11: 45
    +2
    Papier-mache mastered, now they will start to use the money.
  13. magician
    magician 12 May 2016 11: 51
    +1
    Layout and finished product are two different things. And as far as I understand, they are still far from the product!
  14. iliya87
    iliya87 12 May 2016 11: 53
    +3
    Well, here it is clearly not for us to be surprised. We know what statesmen like those in Kiev can do to the country. And we went through all this "parsley" with Chechnya / the collapse of the economy / Enterprises / Armament. Well, let's see, we found the strength to rise, let's look at Ukraine. Only then everyone understood that it was an ass. And in Ukraine (in the media) they are furiously trying to show that everything is in order and there are only minor difficulties. The difference is observed in many ways.
  15. tiredwithall
    tiredwithall 12 May 2016 11: 57
    +1
    Quote: Semen
    with separate installation in one uninhabited tower two stabilized 30 mm automatic guns

    If the tower is "uninhabited", why are there hatches? What does not converge ... And, at the same time - two (!) Operators. "rules"? A mysterious device ... recourse

    Hatches for those who want to sit on chairs. And two operators - this is a gorgeous decision: one is fighting, and the second immediately reports to the headquarters on victories.
  16. BOB044
    BOB044 12 May 2016 12: 01
    0
    Dummies breadcrumbs. In addition to the models can not do horseradish. fool
  17. drags33
    drags33 12 May 2016 12: 01
    +7
    A daring ukrop thought goes along the path of pairing everything with everything ... In the photo there is a coaxial machine gun "Maxim" of the 1910/1930 model. on a single platform. Fear, enemies !!! Formidable're coming out, "army" is coming ...

    PS: under this miracle machine gun already ordered in Ukrooboronprom the reinforced cart ...
  18. sgr291158
    sgr291158 12 May 2016 12: 06
    +1
    Something is tormented by vague doubts that hohliki can invent something. Here's where to stole, this is not to go to the grandmother, but to invent, I doubt it.
  19. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 12 May 2016 12: 07
    +1
    On the Terminator, it means 2 30mm guns is a unique and thoughtful solution, and on the Ukrainian module it is strange. Decide!
    1. uwzek
      uwzek 12 May 2016 17: 58
      +1
      Quote: Zaurbek
      On the Terminator, then 2 30mm guns is a unique and thoughtful solution,

      There is, of course, nothing unique in the twin small cannon. There are also two fighters in the terminator's tower. With living hatches, it is true, and not imitating holes. Each of the fighters has their own sight, completely full-sized and independent. One soldier must fire from cannons and a machine gun, the second controls the rackets. It is not difficult to imagine a situation when the roles of the fighters are in conflict: one launched a racket and was following it, the second decided to repulse a counterattack and turned the tower out of the field of view of the first. I have not heard about any attempts to resolve this conflict in the "terminator".
      But why there are two 7,62 machine guns in the Khokhlomodule, even if both guns and machine guns are actually paired. and not independent on their pendants? About the independent, I generally keep quiet ...
  20. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 12 May 2016 12: 11
    +1
    How to shoot from this? the cannons are not paired, the sights are separate. Is the weapon operator a four-eyed and four-armed alien? while his eyes are like those of a snail, on the "mustache"?
  21. JonnyT
    JonnyT 12 May 2016 12: 15
    0
    heroic attempts at least to sell something ........ I blinded you, from what was
  22. NVVPOU
    NVVPOU 12 May 2016 12: 18
    0
    Lard in chocolate - each separately tasty and healthy, and together with ....
  23. uskrabut
    uskrabut 12 May 2016 12: 21
    +1
    That is in the heat of m about with a l I m
  24. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 12 May 2016 12: 33
    +1
    One sight, two-day and night channels. The gun is a copy of our 2a42. The firing she has is pretty low, the barrel is thick-walled. Accordingly, it can shoot for a long time. Accordingly, two - for a high rate of fire.
    On BMP and armored personnel carriers, strong recoil and weak booking may not stand. to the base from the T-64 just right. While ours are calving with "BMPT", Ukrainians will sell to anyone.
  25. vetor
    vetor 12 May 2016 12: 58
    +1
    And what is wrong with the caliber? We also have thirty on 82ke. Although the PCT seems redundant.
    IMHO a copy of our Terminator the belated truth
  26. Ros 56
    Ros 56 12 May 2016 13: 05
    0
    So much for the ukroobeszy, nevertheless licked from our technology. Well, well, the war will show the plan.
  27. kit-kat
    kit-kat 12 May 2016 13: 22
    +1
    Does it mean two more operators? If the tower is one, then why two operators? One for each weapon kit? But the tower is alone !! Will they fight for who will manage the module?
  28. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 12 May 2016 14: 03
    +1
    Judging by the photo, the operators will have a hard time jumping on such crossed stools. Although I think they will not succeed in sitting on them for a long time, as usual, it will jam something in time and have to manually rotate the trunks, point through the barrel and charge each projectile with his hands. I think that an experienced crew can make 10-15 doublets in milk.
    In general, most likely the third stool was dismantled before the exhibition, it is only for the domestic market, and you can smoke a hookah together ... Perhaps the third barrel was removed ... The quorum did not work out.
  29. Chulman
    Chulman 12 May 2016 14: 06
    +1
    Layouts .... copies, copies, ... the Chinese nervously smoke aside.
  30. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 12 May 2016 14: 17
    0
    Doublet is how? Can Senya and Petya fry a sweet?
  31. mpzss
    mpzss 12 May 2016 14: 37
    0
    but I’m wondering, hatches are located directly under the trunks, and if the crew is in the car and the shell hits the tower, it will jam, the trunks can’t be raised ... the question is where and how to get out of the crew?
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 12 May 2016 16: 55
      0
      Quote: mpzss
      how to leave the crew?


      Counter-question - why should he go out? stop
  32. _my opinion
    _my opinion 12 May 2016 15: 11
    +2
    Ukrainian "Doublet" at an exhibition in Amman

    more precisely: Ukrainian model “Duplet” at an exhibition in Amman.
    the layout of the country, the layout of the state, the layout of the rule of law, the layout of the government, the layout of the president, the layout of independence ... solid layouts and illusions ...
  33. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 12 May 2016 16: 04
    0
    To put this crap on "dung" and arm NATO that will catch up with the aggressor.
  34. Ev1l_4eLL
    Ev1l_4eLL 12 May 2016 17: 04
    0
    But how are they going to climb-climb? Hatches are under the barrel. extremely uncomfortable
    1. uwzek
      uwzek 12 May 2016 18: 03
      +1
      Quote: Ev1l_4eLL
      But how are they going to climb-climb?

      Have you ever tried in your life to get-get out of a tank-out of a tank through the hatch of our T-72’s mechanical drive, etc.? Very inconvenient operation ...
  35. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 12 May 2016 21: 18
    +1
    I love such topics. Especially the manufacturer of ten-kilogram nuclear bombs pleased those capable of destroying entire planets. Along the way, the doctor indulges in drugs ... What a huge circus that withers without a tour.
  36. dvg1959
    dvg1959 13 May 2016 05: 39
    0
    Does he shoot around the corner?
    The worst thing is that Ukrainian weapons very often shoot at their own. Such a design feature in almost all samples.
  37. orca77
    orca77 13 May 2016 07: 34
    +1
    Quote: Aliv
    Ukroboronprom at the SOFEX 2016 military exhibition held in Amman (Jordan) for the first time presented a full-size model of the Duplet combat module
    Well done Ukrainians! It turned out realistically! Menacing! It is necessary to equip all mock-ups with such mock-ups and conduct a battle with mock-ups of soldiers of the ogressor.

    And if the mock-ups of the "ogressor" soldiers win?
  38. Hellriker
    Hellriker 13 May 2016 09: 31
    0
    It seems that they decided to just cram any more trunks for intimidation.
  39. BEECH 1972
    BEECH 1972 14 May 2016 17: 59
    0
    Quote: Semen
    with separate installation in one uninhabited tower two stabilized 30 mm automatic guns

    If the tower is "uninhabited", why are there hatches? What does not converge ... And, at the same time - two (!) Operators. Okay, vertically - independent control, and horizontally, who "rules"? A mysterious device ... recourse

    /// Hatches, okay, there’s only operator’s chairs and a bottom hatch-toilet! ヅ