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Putin: “certain problems” identified in Syria need to be analyzed and eliminated

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In the course of the antiterrorist operation in Syria, certain problems were identified that need to be addressed in order to “correct the future direction of development” of the technology, reports RIA News Statement by Vladimir Putin at the regular meeting on the defense industry.


Putin: “certain problems” identified in Syria need to be analyzed and eliminated


“The operation in Syria revealed certain problems and shortcomings. For each problematic issue should be carried out the most thorough investigation. I mean professional investigation, the most thorough analysis, and then measures are taken to eliminate these problems. This will allow us to adjust the further direction of development and improvement of military equipment samples ",
Said the president.

He also noted that “during the operation in Syria, more than 500 settlements were liberated, the Russian Aerospace Force carried out over ten thousand sorties and hit more than 30 thousands of targets”.

Recall that the active phase of the operation (before the withdrawal of the main forces), carried out at the request of the leadership of the SAR, lasted more than 5 months.
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RIA News. Mikhail Klimentyev
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  1. Yak-15
    Yak-15 11 May 2016 09: 45
    +18
    There are always problems, even in a well-functioning mechanism. So work, comrades military.
    1. Finches
      Finches 11 May 2016 10: 09
      +11
      The combat situation is the best training ground for identifying equipment deficiencies! Unfortunately, even the exercises closest to military operations are just exercises ... Deficiencies have also been identified in the means of communication and automated control systems of a new generation — this is command and control of troops and armaments, so you need to immediately analyze and correct ! I can’t write in detail, but while digital technology does not always cope with the tasks assigned to it for organizing communications ... Modern military telecommunications are toys and there is still a lot of work, especially in the field of creating your own elementary base! Therefore, you don’t need to forget about the old park, run in various conditions, albeit analog, but reliable by 120%. And that is, we have a habit of supposedly abandoning the obsolete one, and the new one is so raw that my mother does not grieve!
      1. jjj
        jjj 11 May 2016 11: 34
        +3
        There were still real miracles. According to the participants, the real heavenly army was on our side
      2. vv3
        vv3 11 May 2016 21: 49
        +1
        Very streamlined and correct. We have workers and they will eliminate the shortcomings in the technical means of destruction. But we do not have modern information-control systems. Therefore, we are not able to fight in a modern way. Moreover, it seems that there is not even a concept of waging such a war as in Syria. Without the participation of the ground contingent of our troops, we are not able to win in Syria. And the General Staff and newly-minted heroes do not know how to do this. What do you think our wise, proactive, modern military leaders proposed at the meeting in Sochi to Putin. I’m sure nothing they stupidly looked into Putin’s mouth and waited for him to say. Generators of ideas do not know what a modern war is using information systems for collecting, analyzing, transmitting and using information in real time. We do not have ACS of a new generation, ESU TK does not It works and was created to show off. Means of destruction cannot use their ultramodern capabilities due to the lack of such systems, due to the lack of integration into what is not. even offers to use analog systems? Did you hear that? Can you imagine the level of information support for our troops ... It is necessary to teach and train a lot of spotters on the battlefield and behind enemy lines offers the General Staff.
  2. Andrey K
    Andrey K 11 May 2016 09: 45
    +25
    For this, the equipment was tested in the ATS so that problems could be identified and eliminated on time.
    Everything is right and logically true.
    One of the rumored problems is the Mi-28 crash near Homs (there were accidents with this helicopter before that). Everyone knows that the Milians were fooling around. In pursuit of orders, persistently, with perseverance worthy of a better application, they are promoting it with a "lightweight" main gear. This "relief" cost several pilots their lives.
    Maybe the "debriefing" of the GDP, all the same, will move the solution of this issue from the "dead center".
    The helicopter itself is excellent, weapons worthy - for two decades, all the same, it was possible to bring the gearbox to mind !!! And there is neither a horse nor a cart !!!
    1. Yak-15
      Yak-15 11 May 2016 10: 16
      +2
      Hopefully, the leadership will have the wisdom to take into account past experience and not do any more stupid things.
    2. max702
      max702 11 May 2016 10: 18
      +9
      Quote: Andrey K
      The helicopter itself is excellent, decent weapons - for two decades,

      Come on! What are 20 years old? The first flights of the prototype Mi-28 helicopter made on November 10 and December 19, 1982 We consider ... And .. 34 of the year!!! And it turns out that the most important unit has not been completed, namely the helicopter gearbox ... Sorry .. " it’s not even negligence, but worse, it’s a mistake!"(FROM.)
      pc: If really the jamb in the gearbox (and judging by the latest accidents the probability of this is high) then Milevtsev should be brought to trial, as well as those who accepted and approved this machine ..
      1. Alexez
        Alexez 11 May 2016 10: 31
        +3
        The Mi-28 gearbox 34 years ago was normal ... but the integration of the sub-muzzle radar into the gearbox is the root of the problem. No need to compare the apparatus thirty years ago with a modern machine.
      2. Andrey K
        Andrey K 11 May 2016 10: 32
        +6
        I was not mistaken in the comments, I spoke about two dozen years (well, maybe a couple of years more), how the "millers" simply cannot force to modify the gearbox.
        It was unreliable at first, the pilots threw the factory complaints, it was useless. Not only that, under the rearmament program, release is still planned there. Now Mi-28MN (modernized), equipped with a new locator, allowing for 360-degree visibility. Silence about the gearbox again ...
        I totally agree with you - this is a crime comparable to sabotage, for which the heads must fly.
    3. Alexey-74
      Alexey-74 11 May 2016 10: 46
      +1
      I join, everything is correctly noticed !!! Let's hope that all the shortcomings will be eliminated ... and taken into account for the future (and it is uncertain in the world ....)
  3. gispanec
    gispanec 11 May 2016 09: 47
    +4
    The operation in Syria has identified certain problems, shortcomings
    are these shortcomings like An Nusra? ... or supply channels of Amer’s anti-tank systems? ... or all together? ..
    1. ARES623
      ARES623 11 May 2016 09: 57
      +6
      Quote: gispanec
      are these shortcomings like An Nusra? ... or supply channels of Amer’s anti-tank systems? ... or all together? ..

      Rather, these are not operations carried out by SN GRU forces to liquidate the leaders of gangs, or insufficient liquidation (Obama, Erdogan and several thousand of our citizens fighting in the Basmachi units are alive). Insufficiently tight overlapping of the supply channels for air defense systems, ATGMs and other weapons from the founding fathers of the IS. These are so basic. Little things, like a change of leadership in Turkey, will come up during the investigation and planning to eliminate the shortcomings.
  4. seti
    seti 11 May 2016 09: 47
    +8
    Did not last but continues. It's just that the scale and the activity on the media background are not the same. Sometimes good deeds are best done quietly and invisibly. The stench from Western "partners" is less.
  5. razmik72
    razmik72 11 May 2016 09: 49
    +4
    Well, any weapon has weak points, and they need to be addressed.
  6. weksha50
    weksha50 11 May 2016 09: 50
    +6
    "The operation in Syria also revealed certain problems and shortcomings. For each problematic issue, the most thorough investigation should be carried out. I mean a professional investigation, the most thorough analysis, and then measures are taken to eliminate these problems" ...

    Normal working environment ...

    Each local conflict in which the troops take part reveals certain shortcomings in command and control, in technology, and in training personnel ... The main thing is that all this be analyzed and appropriate measures taken to eliminate the gaps ...
  7. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 11 May 2016 09: 50
    +5
    Participation in such operations is a great experience + identification of weak points in the "mechanism". So the work on the errors begins.
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 11 May 2016 10: 03
    +2
    Even the fact that the whole world gasped, and we found the shortcomings and eliminate them is an indicator of efficiency. Window dressing is over. Well, or in any case, it is clearly not fashionable. As they say, not in trend. "The conclusions are tough and effective. Even the postponed start at the" Vostochny "- personally caused me a surge of pride. No hysteria, calmly sorted out, replaced, launched And then they hanged them to anyone who needed it, and everyone understood everything.
  9. MiRvSeMvDoM
    MiRvSeMvDoM 11 May 2016 10: 07
    +3
    The Russian Aerospace Forces made over ten thousand sorties and hit more than 30 thousand targets .., the scale of rampant barmolei is simply amazing! 30 thousand goals, yes it’s possible to drive any European country into the Stone Age ... Glory to our VKS!
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 11 May 2016 10: 25
      +2
      Well, as you can see now, the barmalei then recovered. In Aleppo, Khader and Karasi are being pressed through = blocking supplies to the Western Aleppo for the army and their blockade, while Ejs and Khan Tuman were taken, the army was unable to recapture Eys and the first reconnaissance in force / attack on the Fog failed.

      The Barmalei in Homs stepped up, plundered Shaer (still not recaptured, despite the arrival of the Tigers and Sokolov), attacked the T4 base (where virtually all of the Sy-24 Syrian air forces are located) - there are battles, and they also run onto the Palmyra-Homs highway , already burned one convoy there the day before yesterday.

      Nevertheless, current less than 10 sorties per day, for the largest fires, are not an option even to maintain the situation.

      Of the positive, only the tough cut of the Caliphate and the Greens in northern Aleppo, where both sides draw more and more strength. As well as Jaish’s hack and the children with the Caliphate in Daraa.

      Out of the harsh negativity, King Abdala is back in the game, more and more groups of the New Syrian Army (which is at war with the "Regime" and the Caliphate) - receive Western weapons, a 3-month training session at the Royal Special Forces base and return to Syria for decisive battles against Assad and the Caliphate ... At one time, this program was curtailed, now it is gaining momentum.
      1. igor67
        igor67 11 May 2016 11: 27
        -1
        [quote = donavi49] Well, as you can see now, the barmalei then recovered. In Aleppo, Khader and Karasi are being pressed through = blocking supplies to the Western Aleppo for the army and their blockade, while Ejs and Khan Tuman were taken, the army was unable to recapture Eys and the first reconnaissance in force / attack on the Fog failed.

        The Barmalei in Homs stepped up, plundered Shaer (still not recaptured, despite the arrival of the Tigers and Sokolov), attacked the T4 base (where virtually all of the Sy-24 Syrian air forces are located) - there are battles, and they also run onto the Palmyra-Homs highway , already burned one convoy there the day before yesterday.

        Nevertheless, current less than 10 sorties per day, for the largest fires, are not an option even to maintain the situation.

        Of the positive, only the tough cut of the Caliphate and the Greens in northern Aleppo, where both sides draw more and more strength. As well as Jaish’s hack and the children with the Caliphate in Daraa.

        From the harsh negative, King Abdala is back in the game, more and more groups of the New Syrian Army (which is at war with the "Regime" and the Caliphate) - receive Western weapons, a 3-month training at the Royal Special Forces base and return to Syria for decisive battles against Assad and the Caliphate ... At one time, this program was curtailed, now it is gaining momentum. [/ The battles seem to be strong, yesterday and especially today I hear explosions, from 9 in the morning the windows were crumbling, now they are single and far away, it turns out somewhere in the Quneitra region
      2. MiRvSeMvDoM
        MiRvSeMvDoM 11 May 2016 12: 54
        0
        donavi49, you are absolutely right. "Partners" are escalating the situation on all floors. The head of Stratforr once said that Russia must be fought along its borders (Syria, Afghanistan, Eastern Europe), and not one front ... So they are preparing the ground for the main march. War is always horror, but if the Motherland orders, then let them blame themselves ... Peace to everyone in the house hi
  10. black
    black 11 May 2016 10: 08
    +2
    Normal workflow. Revealed - eliminated. More sweat - less blood.
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  12. iliya87
    iliya87 11 May 2016 10: 19
    +3
    It is good that certain problems have been noticed and measures will be taken to eliminate them. It’s much worse when they say everything is fine and there’s nothing to work on.
  13. castle
    castle 11 May 2016 11: 37
    0
    As I understand it, not from the pages of VO, but from other Russian sources, MI-28, without confusing the main problem. You say "reducer", but analysts say "was hit." Then - the politically unsolved problem of a political settlement between Assad and his former closest supporters, who organized the opposition. Not DAISH. The next one is the organization of combat operations of Russian aircraft controllers and issues of their support and rescue. And the defense system (passive and active) and support for BA aircraft, such as the SU-24. And planning of operations!
    There are progress, but there is something to work on and work on.
  14. Leto
    Leto 11 May 2016 12: 54
    0
    The operation in Syria also revealed certain problems and shortcomings.

    Putin is probably wondering how the Ishilovites who lost all the headquarters, warehouses, bases, all the ringleaders in fear and seize the Homs-Palmyra highway from the air forces of the air forces, thus forming a boiler ...
    Either the igilovites multiply by division as amoeba, or in the reports of the generals some inaccuracies crept into several signs ...
    1. MiRvSeMvDoM
      MiRvSeMvDoM 11 May 2016 13: 16
      0
      Ivan, you yourself understand that everything is not so simple in Syria ... The country was divided into zones, the barmaley were divided into strangers and their own, Turks, Saudis, Qatar, mattress feed decently decently. And where it would be worthwhile to enter .., but no .., they are a peaceful opposition. Hence all the ensuing ... hi
  15. godofwar6699
    godofwar6699 11 May 2016 15: 22
    -2
    Quote: VeteranS
    godofwar6699, Are you talking about your brave warriors from "Donald Cook" when our Dryer flew over him? Yes, there are a lot of diapers needed by the US sailors, who are used to being rude in the world with impunity! wassat

    is it just funny how many children are there on the website?
  16. silver_roman
    silver_roman 11 May 2016 16: 23
    +1
    Let's think about the specifics: the president spoke about the shortcomings of technology. What are your thoughts on the disadvantages and which technology ???
    My assumptions are as follows:
    1) the presence of CABs.
    2) su-35s. Also a lot of sores. As with avionics and weapons. Promising RVV are practically not brought to mind unless SURELY except MD.
    3) Efficiency X-101 and calibers. More questions specifically to the first CD.
    Who else thinks ?!
    And many people write some kind of "water". It's already sick to read. That is bad, there is good, that fellow, and that scoundrel. More facts and specifics, thinking about technique and obvious problems.
    It seems like there should not be any problems with air defense or electronic warfare. Armored vehicles were not particularly involved. Of course they are driving, yesterday there was infa about the t-90 wrecked, but according to statistics, tanks live on the battlefield in general. The main question for the Air Force, its armament and equipment
    1. vv3
      vv3 12 May 2016 10: 15
      0
      You do not quite understand what modern war is. What is the information field? A combat information network should be deployed in Syria, all the more there is no opposition in the air. This network includes a military command center, several dozen UAVs, reconnaissance aircraft, satellite channels, stationary observation posts with reconnaissance equipment, airships, etc. We must see everything there, especially on the Syrian-Turkish border. ... There are separate systems, but they do not work, or they are not integrated with each other. And the task of such a global system is not only to see everything, but to give out the coordinates of targets in for our modern weapons: for planes, helicopters, coalition, tornadoes, etc. 2 points are important here: these systems of destruction must be integrated into a single information-combat field, and the second coordinates must be received in real time, i.e. automatically - instantly. We have it all in the bud. Although in the "Coalition" and "Tornado" such channels are provided. It seems that there is an ESU TK system, but it does not work. Instead of automation, we have spotters with a radio station. So even the barmaley cannot be defeated. This is a catastrophe, do you understand what the problem is, in the absence of a system?! It cannot be bought, it must be done, we have everything for this. There is no understanding of stupid generals and leaders. This is very serious, this is critical. Yes, this is not a matter of one day, one year. But individual elements of such a system can be done tomorrow and they will be amazingly effective. For example: UAV bundles - Tornado, UAV - Coalition ... But the point is misunderstanding, the lack of a concept. When they understand how long to wait. This is most important, except for nuclear weapons. Who understands, plus, although it is not important for me, the main thing . Think, we already have no time!
  17. godofwar6699
    godofwar6699 11 May 2016 18: 55
    0
    Quote: Leto
    The operation in Syria also revealed certain problems and shortcomings.

    Putin is probably wondering how the Ishilovites who lost all the headquarters, warehouses, bases, all the ringleaders in fear and seize the Homs-Palmyra highway from the air forces of the air forces, thus forming a boiler ...
    Either the igilovites multiply by division as amoeba, or in the reports of the generals some inaccuracies crept into several signs ...

    Peskov: the main problem of the Russian Armed Forces in Syria was the work of military equipment