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Project "ZZ". Trump and Clinton: both will fight

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Thanks to a case study by the Military Times, it became known that the US military didn’t prefer Hillary Clinton, but Donald Trump. It was his representatives of the armed forces who would like to see the new commander in chief. The publicist P. L. Smith in the Salon publication was unable to determine exactly which of the two potential candidates is “worse”. If Hillary does not have an original mind and believes in absolute military domination and US domination, then Donald is ignorant and is a supporter of American nationalism and exclusivity.




According to a case study "Military Times"conducted among US military personnel, Donald Trump is the preferred presidential candidate among those Americans related to active duty. He is ahead of Hillary Clinton by a margin of over 2 to 1. True, the 21 percentage of military personnel declare that they would abstain from voting if it were about one of these two candidates.

A total of 951 servicemen were interviewed. 54% said they would vote for Donald Trump, and only about 25% would vote for Madame Clinton.

Project "ZZ". Trump and Clinton: both will fight

General survey results


The results of the survey, thus, showed strong support for Trump by the military, despite attacks by critics who assure society that Trump has no experience in foreign policy or national security.


Results of the survey on the types of troops


Earlier, in the March Military Times poll, the military also showed a desire to see Trump in the presidential chair.

The current survey ran from 3 May through 6 May 2016. Participation was voluntary and confidential. The prevailing number of respondents were officers.

Journalist Gideon Rahman in the British newspaper Financial Times sadly notes that, let D. Trump lose the elections, his very participation in the election race will already leave an imprint on political life in the United States and the whole world, irrevocably changing it.

Mr. Rahman highlights some aspects of this influence.

One of the main points he considers the preaching of American nationalism, the global consequences of which can be very serious.

Trump also popularizes the idea of ​​a “clash of civilizations” (Western and Muslim).

The ignorance of the billionaire is also indirectly noted: the article lists his “relentless attacks” on universities and large media and clearly expresses sympathy for conspiracy hypotheses that are multiplying on the Internet.

According to the author, Trump is the figure that will play into the hands of the neo-nationalist generation both in the United States and in Europe.

Patrick L. Smith, columnist "Salon", a well-known publicist and writer whose themes are relations between East and West and the so-called post-American century, spoke with displeasure about those two potential candidates, one of whom might end up in the White House.

The outlined rivalry between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, in essence, means choosing between the bad or the worse. True, no one "can say which of the two will turn out to be the worst."

Former secretary of state rather a place in a television series, rather than in politics. Her foreign policy is so shameful that I don’t want to talk about it. On the other hand, many believe that Trump is "less dangerous" than this lady. But what is this argument? Is it better to choose the devil who is not familiar to us than the devil you know?

According to P. Smith, the Americans today are faced with a choice between a candidate, a well-trained government apparatus and the consolidated priorities of US military domination throughout the planet and neoliberal economic hegemony, and a candidate who has no experience in government.

Mrs. Clinton, presumably, will not change a little gnarlly in US foreign policy, no matter what she promised.

“Over the decades of public service, she never showed a single bit of fantasy and did not give birth to a single original thought on the issue of foreign policy. This refers to both the means and the ends. ”


She could, for example, to the surprise and disappointment of many, reappoint Robert Gates to the post of secretary of defense.

The author recalls that Mrs. Clinton seemed to declare a "reset" in relations between Russia and the United States, but as a result she suffered a complete collapse, since the very idea of ​​this reset was to try to impose on the Russian a model that should be characterized as follows: "Let's return to Yeltsin's servility." Nothing happened, but Putin is to blame for that. "Guilt" it is that he refused from such a policy. So what is the Clinton achievement? Probably, in the further unleashing of the arms race and the growth of the profits of military contractors.

In short, hardly anyone even in the Clinton camp, let alone her opponents, would risk asserting that Hillary would lead the US to positive changes in foreign policy. Voters whose favorite Clinton cannot figure out any new foreign policy plans; if they think that such plans exist, they either show stupidity or are hypocritical. These Americans in general should return to reality: the “American age” on the planet began in 1898 and ended in 2001. And Mrs. Clinton continues to defend what is not. Therefore, "it becomes impossible to justify the vote" for this lady.

The position of Trump, regarding his thesis about the "American exclusivity", the author also does not like. This billionaire clearly considers Americans "the greatest of great nations."

Thinking this way and trying to hypothetically pull up Russia with shouts of “don't do this,” Trump returns the United States to the era before Bush Junior. At that time, American presidents and state secretaries did not refuse to contact their geopolitical opponents. Trump will talk first, but not bomb.

However, Trump as a candidate has “too many problems.” The author with a grin calls his thinking on foreign policy “rudimentary”. It can not even make out. According to the publicist, he rather relies on some instincts and intuition, which helped him to promote the interests of the business everywhere. And one cannot foresee, therefore, what Trump will do in politics “in each particular case”. The author believes that Trump in general "does not understand, the reality is somewhat complicated."

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Outstanding ignorance and belief in the exclusivity of Americans and their "deserved" domination on the planet, preached by both Hillary and Donald - this is the leitmotif, clearly traced in some publications of the Western press in recent days. Analysts, observers, and sociological scientists conducting research on the topic of the popularity of potential candidates are concerned not only about the upcoming elections in the United States, but also about how the new president will influence world politics. Between the lines in the American press there is a sad thought that either of the two possible candidates - both Clinton and Trump - do not have the original thinking and are capable, without thinking too much, of starting a world war.
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  1. Pereira
    Pereira 11 May 2016 08: 55
    +33
    What is the difference, what is the name of the preza, skin color or presence / absence of eggs? The main puppeteers are the same.
    America is ruled from Wall Street. And whoever voices the decisions doesn’t matter. For us, fundamentally nothing will change.
    1. cniza
      cniza 11 May 2016 09: 01
      +16
      Quote: Pereira
      What is the difference, what is the name of the preza, skin color or presence / absence of eggs? The main puppeteers are the same.
      America is ruled from Wall Street. And whoever voices the decisions doesn’t matter. For us, fundamentally nothing will change.



      You are right, but a woman is a fool, better than Trump.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 11 May 2016 09: 04
        +6
        Baba is cooler. There will be new funny hounds.
        But the essence of politics will not change.
        1. Knizhnik
          Knizhnik 11 May 2016 09: 19
          +4
          In the USA, probably, many people vote like this - "Baba is cooler" good
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 11 May 2016 12: 31
            +2
            Quote: Knizhnik
            In the USA, probably, many people vote like this - "Baba is cooler" good


            Correction - in America, many consider Clinton a false and hypocritical old woman. There is nothing cool here. hi
            1. Azitral
              Azitral 12 May 2016 01: 39
              0
              For a deceitful, hypocritical, spiteful, bloodthirsty, like a ferret (her "Wow!" - for Hussein's kaznb - remember?), There is a special term for an old woman: "witch".
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 12 May 2016 15: 41
                0
                Her opponents (including your humble one) usually call her old hag. I will not translate, do not be too lazy to go to:
                [https://translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab=wT#auto/en/hag], you'll like it.
                lol
        2. sa-ag
          sa-ag 11 May 2016 09: 36
          +8
          Quote: Pereira
          Baba is cooler. There will be new funny hounds.

          No, it will be like Condoleezza Rice, which is not at all cool
          1. DMoroz
            DMoroz 11 May 2016 13: 25
            +1
            They can also vote for "Baba", just to see if she will be naughty in the white house, take revenge on the "first lady" ...
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        3. PSih2097
          PSih2097 11 May 2016 13: 31
          +3
          Quote: Pereira
          Baba is cooler. There will be new funny hounds.
          But the essence of politics will not change.

          And what were the white, the black were, there was either a Latino or a woman, or better yet a Latino woman (in connection with tolerance and tolerance made from a man - a transvestite). laughing
          1. Azitral
            Azitral 12 May 2016 01: 40
            0
            Black, moron transsexual lesbian. Politics will not change either.
          2. Timmer
            Timmer 12 May 2016 10: 22
            0
            hahaha konchitu wurdst mexican spill
      2. weksha50
        weksha50 11 May 2016 11: 11
        +6
        Quote: cniza
        You are right, but a woman is a fool, better than Trump.


        Not just DU, but also initiative and hysterical ... And in a fit of hysteria, the devil knows what decisions he can make ...
        1. Azitral
          Azitral 12 May 2016 01: 41
          +1
          This is scary.
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    3. Yak-15
      Yak-15 11 May 2016 09: 03
      +2
      I agree! I also wanted to write about it. It is strange that still very, very many people still believe the promises of the "dolls" and deny the presence of puppeteers.
    4. DMB_95
      DMB_95 11 May 2016 09: 24
      +8
      The US voters have a tempting choice - you have to step into one of two heaps of crap.
    5. Finches
      Finches 11 May 2016 09: 28
      +6
      Absolutely right! Although I think that in spite of all the propaganda of pederast culture in the USA, all the same, most of the military in America are normal men who reasoned purely on the military, it was not a good woman to control them! Moreover, this ... laughing
      1. Aryan
        Aryan 11 May 2016 18: 44
        0
        Moreover, one that even her husband doesn’t know how to do laughing
        And he, the poor fellow, had to side with "mutizza"
    6. cap
      cap 11 May 2016 09: 36
      +5
      Quote: Pereira
      What is the difference, what is the name of the preza, skin color or presence / absence of eggs? The main puppeteers are the same.
      America is ruled from Wall Street. And whoever voices the decisions doesn’t matter. For us, fundamentally nothing will change.


      COMMERCIAL BREAK!
      DO NOT SWITCH!
    7. satris
      satris 11 May 2016 09: 50
      +1
      Puppeteers are puppeteers, but a billion dollars is a billion dollars. And if a person could achieve this, why not achieve more?
      1. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq 11 May 2016 10: 08
        +10
        Quote: satris
        Puppeteers are puppeteers, but a billion dollars is a billion dollars. And if a person could achieve this, why not achieve more

        We have a red face, too, "achieved" I don't know how many billions, and let him in power will achieve much more ...
      2. Azitral
        Azitral 12 May 2016 01: 43
        +1
        Tales of billionaire fools are such tales.
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    9. siberalt
      siberalt 11 May 2016 10: 32
      +5
      After the Negro, choose a woman, and again for the first time in history? This is too much, this is too much! belay
      Yes, there is one sadness, in the US presidential elections are not direct. Democracy is American, in a word. Little depends on the people.
    10. Stalker.1977
      Stalker.1977 11 May 2016 10: 58
      +2
      As Kerry once put it, Americans have the right to be idiots.
    11. marlin1203
      marlin1203 11 May 2016 11: 34
      +5
      Nuclear case and menopause ... Explosive combination belay Well, nafig, huh? ..
      1. jjj
        jjj 11 May 2016 11: 41
        +1
        Quote: marlin1203
        and menopause

        After menopause, so much time has passed already.
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 11 May 2016 12: 13
          +2
          The liberal “Salon” in its key ... Clinton has a civil service blah blah blah. And the results are catastrophic.

          Trump has no political experience ... what the difference ... he is a showman ... and this is a synonym for the US politician.
          Ronald Reagan was generally an actor. Trump was a businessman and not an ex-wife, an ex-president who initiated the bombing of Yugoslavia.

          For me, an indicator that the marasmatic grandfather refused to go to the next congress of the Republicans "sat for three years in the pit" McCain, if Trump is nominated for presidency. His friend Russophobe Meath Romney also said.

          Little speech ... Mita Romney, what would you, comrades, understand that people are neocons.
          “Ladies and gentlemen,” the US presidential candidate began. - Our goal is Russia. The processes taking place in this country today allow us to assume that Russia, literally by touch, is trying to find ways out of the crisis for itself. This wild country, under the leadership of its permanent president, Putin, is a threat not only to the United States. Russia is a threat to all mankind.
          The mild actions of Mr. Obama, who set himself the goal of destroying Russia by escalating ethnic and inter-religious conflicts, led only to the fact that the power in this country tightened the screws more tightly. Today, President Putin sent to prison the messengers of freedom, the musical goddesses from the Pussy Riot group.
          Today, he began to pursue our friend, Mr. Navalny, who topped the list of global thinkers of modernity according to the Foreign Policy. Chase because President Putin is afraid of smart people. He is afraid of America and afraid of friends of America. He is afraid that Mr. Navalny can compete with him and win the presidential elections. Therefore, his goal was to arrest our friend. We cannot allow this to happen. Only Mr. Navalny is able to give Russia freedom and democracy.
          Our primary task, as a nation, is to strengthen the campaign being pursued by the weak-willed Obama administration against Russia. Our task is to make Russia devour itself from within, bringing confusion and discord into the society of this country. What Mr. Navalny couldn’t do today - tomorrow we will be able to do it on many thousands like him.
          We will make the Russians take up arms. We will set up Chechens, Tatars, Bashkirs, Dagestanis against the Russians. We must make them fight each other. We are obliged to multiply actions aimed at discrediting the Orthodox Church in Russia. Patriarch Kirill can no longer cope with his hopes. He failed to deprive people of faith in God. He only managed to deprive people of faith in the Church.
          And, if none of the above works, we will have no choice but to declare a quick and victorious war to this country. Fast because three months after we stop buying gas and oil from this country, the government of President Putin will have nothing to pay wages to our military. And when we introduce our troops into this country, there will be nobody to defend it. Because we have long exterminated the spirit of patriotism in the Russians, turning them into a nation of evil, petty, and envious non-dreamers. We made them hate their country, hate each other, hate their own nation. There are no more Russians, we have destroyed them.
          We destroyed the USSR, we will destroy Russia, too, ”the US presidential candidate Mitt Romney concluded.

          Clinton is the same neocon, only from the Democrats.
          1. Azitral
            Azitral 12 May 2016 01: 49
            +1
            Romney's speech is not a fake, no? If not, then he seems to believe in his own propaganda. A very dangerous occupation for a politician.
      2. Azitral
        Azitral 12 May 2016 01: 44
        0
        What menopause? !! She is 70 years old, she is already twenty years old, as in menopause.
    12. Aryan
      Aryan 11 May 2016 14: 40
      0
      Ask me who I want to see? I will answer that it would be good for everyone to have the chair left empty ..
      It has long been noted that each successive presidency is worse than the previous one.
      1. ARES623
        ARES623 12 May 2016 07: 33
        -1
        Quote: Aryan
        I will answer that it would be good for everyone to have the chair left empty ..

        And I, frankly, do not mind that there was nothing under the chair. A sort of "Stalin Strait".
  2. Andrey K
    Andrey K 11 May 2016 09: 01
    +9
    "The American military prefers not Hillary Clinton at all, but Donald Trump" ...
    One must think that the military, even the American ones, still has a brain.
    There are few idiots to be under the control of a maniac.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 12 May 2016 15: 48
      0
      Everything is simpler. If what the military wants the least is to fight. Trump is a businessman. He understands that war is not conducive to business. And Clintonsha is eager for battle, in the sense of not running with the machine gun herself, but of sending others, but they need it?

      Hillary for Prison 2016 !!!
  3. McLuha-MacLeod
    McLuha-MacLeod 11 May 2016 09: 02
    +3
    As they say, Radish horseradish is not sweeter.
  4. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 11 May 2016 09: 04
    +6
    Horseradish (trump) is not sweeter than radish (Clinton)
  5. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 11 May 2016 09: 12
    +1
    Horseradish is not sweeter than radish.
    1. Exumer
      Exumer 11 May 2016 11: 08
      +3
      The main thing is that there are people in the world who can properly pickle these vegetables. wassat
  6. volodya
    volodya 11 May 2016 09: 13
    +1
    One to one change, only time to lose.
  7. lav67
    lav67 11 May 2016 09: 14
    0
    They will fight ... now in the United States
  8. Jarilo
    Jarilo 11 May 2016 09: 14
    +1
    Ordinary Americans for isolation (Trump), oligarchs - trances for globalization (Clinton). There is an objective reality - a huge debt that is growing by leaps and bounds. Judging by how it grows, they are not going to give it away. If Clinton is chosen and it is possible to rob Europe and Asia, then they will hold out for some more time, but the result will be the same.
    1. Azitral
      Azitral 12 May 2016 01: 53
      0
      You won’t rob Asia. Grabby became a little short.
  9. Dam
    Dam 11 May 2016 09: 15
    +1
    Whoever came to power in mattresses, even Donald Duck, nothing will change in the oligarchic oligophrenic republic
  10. Arkan
    Arkan 11 May 2016 09: 15
    +1
    Between the lines in the American press there is a sad thought that either of the two possible candidates - both Clinton and Trump - do not have original thinking and are able, without really thinking, to unleash a world war.


    So it was before the collapse of the USSR, so all empires disintegrate without exception. Gorbi and Yeltsin only finished off our country, and the same well-trained partocrats as Clinton knocked out the foundation from under it.
  11. okunevich_rv
    okunevich_rv 11 May 2016 09: 15
    +7
    Hillary will win, glory to her majesty, trump will win the glory to her majesty.
    We will not believe in friends beyond the puddle.
    Still all potential and obvious agents of influence in our country would be sent to correctional labor in the cold region for mining. Each statesman who transferred money to an offshore, being the beneficiary of an offshore company, or having a large account in the UK and the USA, is a potential enemy of the people, because sooner or later he will be recruited.
  12. Knizhnik
    Knizhnik 11 May 2016 09: 17
    +1
    The United States considers itself to be the ideological heirs of Ancient Rome (in my opinion, not unreasonably), without a war in any way, the main thing is not to get too bogged down and jump off in time
    1. Azitral
      Azitral 12 May 2016 01: 56
      0
      The coincidences with Rome are simply amazing. you read the epic "The Lord of Rome" by McCollough, it is striking all the time. But even there, democracy came to a natural end.
  13. Forester
    Forester 11 May 2016 09: 21
    0
    I agree.
    There will be another talking head ....
  14. surrozh
    surrozh 11 May 2016 09: 25
    +2
    Why write an article because of other people's elections, there the political system is not imprisoned under one, as we have, there they will at least elect a camel for the presidency, but the policy will remain the same.
  15. runway
    runway 11 May 2016 09: 40
    0
    "Victory Day" is over, but the author is drawn to a new war?
    The principle works, if you often repeat the word "war", will it become habitual?
    The US President cannot unleash a war by his own decree. This issue is decided by Congress, and the majority there is not for the "war party". Therefore, we need to behave accordingly - not to arrange provocations, including in articles.
  16. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 11 May 2016 09: 42
    0
    Baba will quickly destroy the starship. What did Wang say about the last president?
    1. Apsit
      Apsit 11 May 2016 10: 04
      0
      Quote: Volzhanin
      Baba will quickly destroy the starship.

      I think so too. To be a woman prezik
      1. Azitral
        Azitral 12 May 2016 01: 57
        0
        originally the word "condom" was used as an abbreviation for the word "condom".
  17. Cap.nemo58rus
    Cap.nemo58rus 11 May 2016 09: 51
    0
    Quote: SEERs
    And where does the voters? Even the military.
    Electors should be asked about preferences :-)
    Although they are pointless.

    Exactly! In their electoral system it is not clear who chooses what.
  18. 72jora72
    72jora72 11 May 2016 10: 00
    +1
    If the president were to decide something ...... although the new president could add a fresh stream to anti-Russian schizophrenia (given how many cockroaches are in Clinton and Trump’s heads).
  19. Forever so
    Forever so 11 May 2016 10: 59
    +1
    American business has always been above the fray, pitting peoples; he left himself the maximum of finishing. And today a very interesting picture is emerging. It is no secret that Russia and its leadership are influenced by clans of American business. The main players are the Rothschilds and Rockefellers. And if looking back, we find that if the Rockefellers in principle supported the existence of the USSR, then the Rothschilds destroyed it with all their might. The Gorbachev-Yeltsin era is the Rothschild victory over Rockefeller, today's rise of Russia, this is the return of the Rockefeller positions. In theory, the next in the near future should be the defeat of Rothschild, and, accordingly, the destruction in one form or another of America. such a cunning plexus. They don’t give us peace. !!!!!!!!!!
  20. weksha50
    weksha50 11 May 2016 11: 06
    0
    Radish horseradish is not sweeter ... For us, at least ...

    The only positive thing about Trump for us is that he foolishly will not immediately start a war with Russia ... A war that ripens and ripens all, and it is not our fault ...

    And this possibility of alienating the war will give Russia the opportunity to grow stronger ...
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 11 May 2016 11: 33
      +1
      Quote: weksha50
      The only positive thing about Trump for us is that he foolishly does not immediately start a war with Russia ...

      Not right away, George, not right away. Two to three days later than Clinton would have begun.
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 11 May 2016 13: 58
        +2
        Quote: EvgNik
        Two to three days later than Clinton would have started.



        Nuuu, while he tries to find a common language with GDP (as he promised), maybe days or more will pass ...

        However, if he follows the Clinton way of "rebooting", he will immediately hear where he needs to go precisely and purposefully ... Then - yes ...
  21. yehat
    yehat 11 May 2016 11: 17
    +4
    Trump promises to return to pragmatism and abandon the axiom "harmful to the Russian Federation means useful to us"
    despite the fact that he will defend the interests of the United States, the refusal to support senseless attacks ala Ukraine and the Baltic states is likely to be part of his plans, and this pleases.
    From Clinton, I look forward to continuing the policy of blind pressure on everything Russian.
  22. EvgNik
    EvgNik 11 May 2016 11: 31
    +1
    Outstanding ignorance and faith in the exclusivity of Americans and their "deserved" dominance on the planet

    This says it all, and then there’s nothing to discuss.
  23. semuil
    semuil 11 May 2016 11: 54
    0
    + one more goat and nothing.
  24. SlavaP
    SlavaP 11 May 2016 13: 45
    +3
    The difference between Clintonsha and Trump is how to treat a chronic abscess - open or put poultices ....
    If it comes, then most likely the outcome of the world confrontation between the purulent West and the rising East (including Russia) will come quickly - probably by the end of its first (and last?) Term. The arrival of Trump will probably mean some smoothing out of contradictions (only business and nothing personal) and will delay the endgame for another decade. That is, by my logic, Trump is most likely somewhat more profitable for Russia.
  25. Ros 56
    Ros 56 11 May 2016 15: 02
    +2
    In any case, Trump will be smarter, after all, a billionaire, and he did not fall from the ceiling. And man, nevertheless, brains are arranged differently.
  26. trantor
    trantor 11 May 2016 15: 03
    0
    Clinton, Trump ... If you look closely, from the second half of the last century, the degradation of the first persons of the United States becomes obvious.
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  28. Starik72
    Starik72 11 May 2016 16: 14
    0
    Yes, the American electors are faced with a difficult task, to choose the least of two evils. Clinton or Trump, which of them is worse or better, I don’t think Damn himself. So everything depends on the electors, and their task is not easy. We will look, and based on this, draw conclusions about what our relations between the states will be.
  29. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 11 May 2016 20: 41
    +1
    Between the lines in the American press there is a sad thought that either of the two possible candidates - both Clinton and Trump - do not have original thinking and are able, without really thinking, to unleash a world war.

    But what if the candidate had original thinking and was able to start a war, would it be easier for us?
    And secondly, American candidates are pigs in a poke. As far as I remember, the forecasts never corresponded to reality, analysts (the foul root) either look into the railway station, but do not see the point, or simply move the paid rma.
    In the end, it’s not the president who rules, but the backstage, so we’ll wait and see.
    Anyway, nothing depends on us.
  30. Svidetel 45
    Svidetel 45 12 May 2016 00: 04
    0
    Undoubtedly, it is not the president who rules in the USA, but the forces behind him, but who specifically stands behind each of them is a big question. It is possible that for Clinton - speculative financial capital and for Trump - representatives of real business, real production, and therefore, differences in both domestic and foreign policies are possible in the future, although in any case they will protect interests The United States, as its base, is a bastion of its existence.
  31. partizan86
    partizan86 12 May 2016 01: 15
    0
    Of all the world powers, only China has managed for a long time not to fight, not a single ruler has managed without the rest in the same time.
    Still, Trump is better than a crazy woman in power.
  32. Pomeranian
    Pomeranian 12 May 2016 22: 07
    0
    I read it. The author, and to us from all this what happiness will be?
  33. Roust
    Roust 14 May 2016 04: 04
    0
    Everything is in a mattress style: Dumb and Dumber.