9 May. Appeal to the Ukrainian patriot. Evil Ivan №26 with Ivan Victory

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Hello to all ours and not to ours! I am Ivan Victory and I am very angry today.

Victory, not peremoga, but victory, the theme of this issue. And in it you and I will have to remember the past and think about the future.

Do you know how true winners differ from losers?
Awareness of their personal responsibility for what is happening. The winners, despite all the obstacles and hindrances, despite the machinations of enemies and traitors, go and win. Go yourself personally. They are not waiting for help. Do not try to cause pity or find excuses. They just go and do. Since they know that truth and justice are behind them and no one but them is no longer capable of such an act.

Here grandfathers, great-grandfathers and fathers of the majority of Ukrainians were the winners. And the kids were losers and traitors. Where does this conclusion come from?

All because of blame statistics. Which does not want to match the fictional myths Svidomo ukroistorikov. In the Soviet Army, 6 of millions of Russian Ukrainians fought for the USSR.
And for Nazi Germany, for Hitler, for the UPA, for Bandera 300 fought thousands of Svidomo ukropriot. This is data from Wikipedia, which specifically overstates the number of Ukrainian Nazi accomplices, howling against the Red Army, in order to instill the idea of ​​their popular support.
Come on, rather grab, a calculator, my not thinking Svidomo Patriot thinks.
300 thousand from 6 million is 5%. I repeat 5%!

Propagandists from the current government, strenuously rushed to praise the fictitious victories of the Binderites and their mythical struggle for Ukraine and the Ukrainian people. But this is a lie. It was not.
These 5% Nazi followers fought against 95% other Ukrainians. Do you realize these numbers?
Over the years of independence, 5% of the Nazis were able to impose their myths and lies on the rest of 95% of the population. And now in Ukraine most of the inhabitants are the most natural traitors. They betrayed the truth, memory and their ancestors.
But now you can yell to the blue in the face Glory to Ukraine, Heroic Glory or Ukraine ponad mustache. And do not care that under these Gundosye cries killed your fathers, grandfathers and great-grandfathers. You can also go to the cemetery, to the graves of your ancestors. And to impose a bunch of there ... This is equivalent in its stupidity and idiocy actions.

Unfortunately time does not spare anyone. And the real Ukrainian heroes are gone. And they were replaced by cowardly jackals, geeks without memory, without morality, and began their demonic dances on their graves and monuments.
And you, a flaming binderite, are not even able to realize that millions of lives of people, much better than you, were supposed to make you a bastard and a parasite just to live.

Glorifying Bandera, UPA, OUN and other Nazi accomplices. You refused the Great Victory and became a traitor, miserable and insignificant whiner. For which the victory of the Soviet Union, the victory of your ancestors, is a personal humiliation.

Although it is fashionable to be a traitor in Ukraine.
Among traitors, the popular opinion is that the German occupation is good and it is not at all scary. What if it were not for the Red Army, now everyone would drive a Mercedes and drink Bavarian beer.
Bavarian speak? During the years of the German occupation in Ukraine, almost 4 million civilians died.
You would not drink beer, but would work in as slaves in the factories. And your sisters, mothers and Zhinki would appease the German "liberators". Although in an inverted ukromir, it now could be a reason for pride.

I have a sincere misunderstanding, causing the behavior of the current generation. Which, ingeniously look into the eyes of Europeans and dream of working on them. This servility, licorice, servility ... just causes disgust. It is especially amusing to watch it under the pretentious cries about "we are not slaves." Where did this slave trait come from the former Russians? Who could convince you that this is the very hidnosti, dignity?

After all, this is your father, grandfather, great-grandfather of the Red Army cleaned up the rot of Nazism and all this trash from his land, rabble who dared to consider him a second-rate man. He proved that the German Nazis - it's just dirt under his boots. He conquered Europe and put her on cancer. And the Europeans snickering were withdrawing, hiding and lowering their eyes. Unable to withstand his gaze. They knew their place. And they understood who allowed them to live, although he had every right to destroy them all, for all the atrocities that they did on his land. He spared them. Since I was Russian. But they would not have spared him for anything.

The victory of 1945 of the year is the last real military victory of the Ukrainian people.
Was. And now it is not. Ukrainians you no longer have real victories. Only fake remained. And there are no more real heroes.
You betrayed them, and replaced with cowardly Binderites and fabulous sharovarny Cossacks. Whose exploits are primitive myths and absurd inventions. All you got in return is a fake surrogate.

Look, this is how the medal for the victory over Germany looked like.
9 May. Appeal to the Ukrainian patriot. Evil Ivan №26 with Ivan Victory

Which got your heroic ancestor. This medal was established in 1945 year. And the current symbol of that victory, the Guards Ribbon, that you vyblyadok call the Colorado, is a tribute to the real heroes, including your grandfather, and this Victory.

Summing up.
Attitude to our Great Victory and to the date of 9 May, this is the watershed that draws the line between Russian Ukrainians and Svidomo labor Ukrainians. It is he who separates ours from ours.
So decide on which side you're on. You have no time left.
And it depends on your choice whether you will participate in the upcoming victory parade, as a winner or go under guard in a column of traitors, followed by watering machines.

This also applies to the rest of the Russians of all nationalities. Any mockery of our Great Russian Victory deprives you of the right to be Russian.

Everything! Believe in your people and your country. Need to respect your history, their ancestors and their victories. This is our holy source of power. Treat him carefully.

See you soon!
Immediately warn the video evil. Snot and drool do not want to smear. Pick up polite words, so as not to offend, I will not. Listen and do not say that you have not heard! There is no time left for medicine and pain medication. Urgent operation or death.
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  1. +35
    10 May 2016 05: 40
    normally!!! BEAUTY !!!
    1. +23
      10 May 2016 06: 19
      I think that they should figure out for themselves. And either burn in hellfire, or be cleansed by fire. Peacefully will not work.
      1. +14
        10 May 2016 06: 45
        It’s sincerely written, I read it twice, I’ll go to the rambler and look at how the slops pour from Svidomo.
        1. +3
          11 May 2016 13: 09
          but interesting ... did they look? I doubt it, because when your eyes are blocked, you look only where the shepherd indicates (or whoever they have) wassat
      2. +13
        10 May 2016 07: 43
        Interesting of course your offer.
        But unrealistic.
        It’s the same as in a psychiatric clinic to remove all medical staff, all sorts of hints about the availability of medicines and offer patients to recover themselves ...
        1. +7
          10 May 2016 08: 11
          Quote: Andrey K
          Interesting of course your offer.
          But unrealistic.

          I support your point of view.
          Our brothers from the territory called Ukraine, in more than one generation grew up with the demands that they all owe them.
          But their worldview broke ... or rather, they raked it themselves when they became "independent", that is, independent.
          When the USSR was, they were given everything - now, what’s yours and live ...
          That's just with a normal life they somehow did not work out ...

          They are like a selfish, moody child - he broke all the toys and demands new ones.

          They can be returned to reality only by a severe slap from the outside.
          1. +31
            10 May 2016 09: 25
            In Soviet times, my aunt, who still lives in Dnepropetrovsk, came to us in Volgograd and was always surprised at empty store shelves. Surprised by the scarcity of salaries and low living standards. Their salaries were higher in the city then, shops were bursting with products, including those made with us. She brought sausage, sweets, chocolates made in Volgograd, but we never saw this here. She could afford to buy a cooperative apartment for 5 years, and we stood in line for 12 years and got 5 square meters for a 40 apartment. They had imported things, medicines, equipment. we could not even dream about it. And then she said that Ukrainians scorned the Russians, considered us a hunger. The roots lie back in those days, the habit of living cool and that everyone served them. Now it’s different, but resentment and envy gnaws.
            1. +6
              11 May 2016 17: 57
              I was in Dnepropetrovsk in 2004. A degrading city, the population has decreased since the times of the USSR, there were almost no children on the streets, almost all teenagers had a liter bottle of beer, roads in pits, and the VAZ-2107 was a prestigious car. And only the terrible hum of the tested rocket engines pleased the townspeople - Russia buys an engine, at least some kind of animation and work for people.
              In short, dullness.
            2. +2
              12 May 2016 08: 23
              And at the same time, the inhabitants of the Ukrainian SSR believed that the whole union was being fed.
            3. +2
              12 May 2016 19: 02
              Maxom75 RU May 10, 2016 09:25 ↑

              In Soviet times, my aunt, who still lives in Dnepropetrovsk, came to us in Volgograd and was always surprised at empty store shelves. Surprised by the scarcity of salaries and low living standards.


              I was also indignant that in Kazakhstan, the livestock republic, there were almost no sausages, cheeses and other livestock products in the shops, and in Ukraine, all the stores of these goods were heaps. Let them now live as we used to live, maybe even grow a little wiser.
          2. +7
            11 May 2016 13: 19
            served urgent 1990-92 ... there were a lot of Ukrainians in the company ... as soon as the Union cracked up, it began to say (especially from the Zapadentsev) that hungry corpses would soon lie at your mausoleum, because they fed us all))) 25 passed years ... so no one died of hunger at the walls of the mausoleum, but they have devastation ...
            1. +3
              12 May 2016 22: 18
              Quote: poruchik
              . as soon as the Union cracked down began speaking

              In 1991, when the Union began to fall apart, a Ukrainian drew a line in chalk in my cabin. The border between Iya and the Square Nenka. One thing, the woodpecker, did not take into account: the faucet with a washbasin ended up on "Russian" territory ...
          3. Ynros
            -2
            11 May 2016 22: 22
            Opening of the monument to SS Gruppenfuhrer Atoman - General Krasnov in the station of Elanskaya Rostov Region Russia

            Quote
            - I ask you to tell all the Cossacks that this war is not against Russia, but against the communists, Jews and their henchmen who sell Russian blood. May the Lord help German weapons and Hitler! Let them do what the Russians and Emperor Alexander I did for Prussia in 1813.
            Petr KRASNOV, June 22, 1941
        2. +12
          10 May 2016 09: 27
          .. "to shame a liar, to joke about a fool and to argue with a woman is the same as drawing water with a sieve, God save us from these three .." M.Yu. Lermontov.
      3. +14
        10 May 2016 09: 17
        You still do not understand that the Nazis cannot be re-educated. Fascism is the ideology of death and it must be cleaned up together with its carriers. Yes it hurts, but with blood, yes through the gallows, but it does not work differently. Only the punitive method and the cruel punitive method otherwise fascism and ukrofashizm not exterminate. Khrushchev already sent to the eastern regions of Ukraine for the re-education of Bandera and what did they re-educate?
      4. +1
        10 May 2016 16: 10
        Quote: Mahmut
        I think so, they should figure it out on their own.


        never admits himself a freak ... Only a weighty fist between his eyes can show - Who is who ...
      5. 0
        10 May 2016 16: 55
        Quote: Mahmut
        they must figure out for themselves


        "ur - never recognizes himself as a freak" - an axiom ...
    2. +24
      10 May 2016 06: 29
      I don’t even see much sense in typing, what I think about Gabon remnants under the banner of the global down movement, because I’m saying another minus.
      The author is certainly a plus, but the tragedy is that the hips do not hear or see anything and most of them will no longer help psychiatry, in this case only the veterinarian for forced euthanasia, because Svidomo of the brain, like rabies of animals is not treated.
      1. +7
        10 May 2016 07: 01
        And the real heroes are no more.
        You betrayed them, and replaced them with cowardly Bandera and fabulous bloomers Cossacks.

        Ukraine is fighting paranoia, and while paranoia is confidently winning. In the heroes of Mazepa, Petliura, Skoropadsky, Savchenko, Mamchur (America with us - remember?). Mazepa the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called, which was not prestigious, traded for the first and last 5-kilogram Order of Judah in history.
        1. +9
          10 May 2016 09: 16
          Quote: Z.O.V.
          Ukraine is fighting paranoia, and while paranoia is confidently winning.

          not only paranoia, but also meanness.
          In late April in Irpen near Kiev, a memorial was destroyed on the mass grave of the Red Army soldiers. And in Kiev, which had been “covered” to the limit, on Shulyavka, neo-Nazis attacked the T-34 tank mounted on a pedestal to mark the 25th anniversary of the liberation of Kiev. The monument immortalized the feat of the guard of the foreman-tanker Nikifor Sholudenko, the commander of the reconnaissance platoon, whose fighters were the first to break into the capital and hoist the Red Banner in the center of Kiev. For this mortally wounded in that battle on November 5, 1943, the guardsman is being avenged today by the last of those with whom he fought. They painted Petliura’s color signs the “Guard” sign on the tower of the combat vehicle and the call “For our Soviet Motherland!” Holy to all who fought in that World War II.
      2. +7
        10 May 2016 07: 11
        In many social networks there is a desecration of the memory of the Victors in the Second World War! But most of all the dirt is poured from Odnoklassniki! I can drop in PM the addresses of the pages of these non-humans, some of whom live in Russia! Can someone help block them ?!
        1. +3
          10 May 2016 07: 18
          This is from the same topic!
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    4. 0
      11 May 2016 16: 40
      No comments.
      Article to the point. good
    5. Ynros
      -7
      11 May 2016 22: 11
      Some Russian military units that fought on the side of Nazi Germany
      You need to know the history of your country. Even so shameful.
      ROA Vlasova (0,8 ... 1,3 million people),
      Russian Corps (about 15000 people),
      RONA (more than 15000 people),
      Muravyov’s battalion,
      Combat Union of Russian Nationalists (BSRN),
      Brotherhood of Russian Truth, Division "Russland",
      Volunteer SS Regiment "Varyag",
      Green Special Forces
      Committee for the Liberation of the Peoples of Russia (CONR),
      National Socialist Party,
      Organization "Zeppelin",
      Russian detachment of the 9th army of the Wehrmacht,
      XIVI
      Russian personnel in the SS Charlemagne division,
      Russian personnel in the SS Wallonia Division,
      Russian personnel in the SS Dirlenvagen division,
      ROND / RNSD and many others
      Cossacks of Kaminsky,
      First Eastern Reserve Regiment "Center" Lieutenant Colonel Yagnenko,
      Volunteer regiment "Desna" Major Outch
      etc.
      In the ROA of Vlasov alone, during its existence, there were from 800 to 000 people !!!
      Ukrainian "Galicia" together with "Nachtigall" - about 51 people, but they fought for the independence of Ukraine and did not fight in Russia. After Hitler's refusal to independence Ukraine, they fought against Giler.
      By the way, the black and orange stripe, from which Russian propaganda made the "St. George's" ribbon, the symbol of Victory, was worn by the Cossacks who fought on the side of the Nazis against the Red Army.

      ATTENTION !!!!!! Ukrainian military units that fought on the side of Nazi Germany. SS Division

      - "Galicia" - numbered about 50 people during its entire existence (they were not citizens of the USSR until 000).
      - Battalion "Nachtigall" -800 people (were not citizens of the USSR until 1939).

      ATTENTION ! The OUN-UPA fought against invaders of all stripes from the Nazis to the Communists in Ukraine. Her warriors are justified even by the Nuremberg Tribunal, so we do not take into account.

      You need to know the history of your country. Even so shameful.

      A nation that does not know the past has no future.

      "I see a speck in someone else's eye, but I can't see a log in my own" - a very wise RUSSIAN proverb
      1. +1
        12 May 2016 05: 40
        By the way, the black and orange stripe, from which Russian propaganda made the "St. George's" ribbon, the symbol of Victory, was worn by the Cossacks who fought on the side of the Nazis against the Red Army. As you said correctly, you need to know the story. Less to you for not knowing the history of the appearance of the black-and-orange ribbon in the Russian awards!
        1. Ynros
          0
          12 May 2016 15: 17
          If you are such a connoisseur of history, then put all the points on i. Cossacks originated on the outskirts of the land
          Russian states in the XV - XVII centuries. Originally lived in the steppes and forest-steppes of Eastern Europe,
          mainly in the territory of modern Ukraine and Russia; subsequently settled also in
          Middle and Lower Volga, Cis-Urals, southern Urals (now northern Kazakhstan), Siberia and the Far East.
          Until the end of the XNUMXth century, there were also special categories of service people in the Russian Empire -
          White-place Cossacks and city Cossacks. Learn the mat part, Comrade Colonel.
          1. +1
            13 May 2016 01: 55
            Learn the mat part, comrade lieutenant colonel “What did you mean by that?” I would recommend that you follow the calls, otherwise it’s not an hour you run into ....
            For those who are "on an armored train" I will repeat myself - minus you for not knowing the history of the origin of the BLACK ORANGE RIBBON in the awards of Russia.
            And what about the Cossacks? Or are you having problems? you can put dots anywhere and commas too. Successes.
            1. Ynros
              +2
              13 May 2016 02: 36
              Remember. The St. George ribbon has NOTHING to do with Victory. With the St. George ribbon you can mark your memory of the First World War, the Russian-Japanese, Crimean and other wars of Tsarist Russia. The St. George Ribbon was established as an award in 1769. Then her colors were described as "black and yellow". It was also an addition to the St. George Cross, the Order of St. George and the St. George medal. Since 1913, its colors are black and orange.
              Who actually fought with the St. George ribbon in 1941 - 1945?
              For example, the Russian Liberation Army of Vlasov, who fought on the side of Hitler. Ataman Pyotr Krasnov, who also supported Hitler. He really participated in the war, dressing the George Cross, which he received back in 1915.
              It would be funny if it weren’t so sad.
              Well, I especially want to note that the second symbol, unchanged at the parade is the white-blue-red flag, which also has nothing to do with Victory. Grandfathers fought under the red flag including against those who used the modern tricolor of the Russian Federation. - Another ROA award with tricolor.

              In the Red Army, no St. George ribbon could be. In December 1917, all the awards of the Russian Empire in Soviet Russia were abolished and their wearing did not comply with the charter.

              The ribbon, which is attached to the Soviet Order of Glory and the Medal "For Victory over Germany," really has a similar color. Yes, that's just it is called not Georgievskaya, but Guards.

              Unfortunately, amateurs often try to make history

              In Russia, in general, some kind of symbolic parade named after General Vlasov ...

              Victory Tape is called the Guards. Victory Flag - red.
              Comrade Colonel LEARNING MAT PART! And do not try to shine with the importance of the soviet analyst and historian, especially since it is ridiculous))))
  2. +6
    10 May 2016 05: 45

    May 9, Kiev
    and this
    Neo-Nazis in the center of Kiev, provocateurs on Victory Day. \ Aidar \
    same -
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yiedPYpOek
    At the fraternal cemetery, a dispute over tapes on May 9, 2016.
    Citizens of Ukraine are becoming more active.
    1. aba
      +10
      10 May 2016 05: 56
      Neo-Nazis in the center of Kiev, provocateurs on Victory Day.

      Spread and evil!
    2. +6
      10 May 2016 06: 12
      Here's a shaven-headed head ... I don’t continue
    3. Ynros
      -5
      11 May 2016 21: 52
      Russian fascists - the march. We will exterminate those who do not agree with the RUSSIAN WORLD.
  3. +6
    10 May 2016 05: 47
    Quote: Askiz
    normally!!! BEAUTY !!!


    Yes.
    But how to convey the whole truth of these words to those to whom they are generally intended

    Wait: on the Censor poisonous saliva will choke
    1. +13
      10 May 2016 05: 59
      there is, there is experience !!! DENASIFICATION in Germany 1945-48 of the year ... I hope the method. benefits in the bins of the motherland remained
    2. +8
      10 May 2016 06: 53
      Quote: Very old
      Wait: on the Censor poisonous saliva will choke

      This, Valentine, as usual. Nevertheless, an immortal regiment marched across Ukraine, even though the Nazis beat them. Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa, Kiev.
      1. Ynros
        0
        12 May 2016 16: 28
        Concert "Victory. One for All" - Inter-Ukraine - 2016
  4. +5
    10 May 2016 05: 49
    five percent and then not throughout the country but in the west.
    1. +7
      10 May 2016 07: 43
      There are few of them, the stronger their deed, those who came out in small numbers almost to the battle in defense of the memory of their ancestors are worth a lot. Strong people Worthy.
      1. Ynros
        0
        12 May 2016 16: 33
        VICTORY DAY IN UKRAINE May 9, 2016 - Dnepropetrovsk.
    2. cap
      +1
      10 May 2016 08: 22
      Quote: tafalar
      five percent and then not throughout the country but in the west.


      Without American money and agents of influence since the reign of Kuchma, nothing would have happened.
      The current situation in the country404 is a project of states that dream to rule the world while sitting behind a puddle.
      1. Ynros
        0
        12 May 2016 16: 50
        Lviv - May 9, 2016 Victory Day Hill of Glory. Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine protects the Hill of Glory from vandalism of false patriots.
    3. Ynros
      0
      12 May 2016 16: 37
      In the den of Bandera Lviv, as they celebrate Victory Day 09.05.16/XNUMX/XNUMX
    4. Ynros
      0
      12 May 2016 16: 52
      May 9, 2015 Lviv - Hill of Glory
  5. +12
    10 May 2016 05: 51
    In the states beloved by Ukraine, the Immortal Regiment marched. But Ukraine has its own way. Nazi.
    1. +19
      10 May 2016 06: 01
      Quote: EvgNik
      But Ukraine has its own way. Nazi.

      How does this path end ..
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      2. Ynros
        -4
        11 May 2016 21: 50
        Igor Bikeev, a teacher at the Russian Institute of Economics, Management and Law, completed his emotional statement in support of the occupation of Crimea with a Nazi salutation from the stage during the celebration of the anniversary of the annexation of the peninsula in the capital of Tatarstan, Kazan. The Society of Russian Culture in Kazan organized a fundraiser for fuel to send another batch of ammunition to the Donbass.
    2. +10
      10 May 2016 06: 19
      Quote: EvgNik
      In the states beloved by Ukraine, the Immortal Regiment marched. But Ukraine has its own way. Nazi.


      No, they really eat hunting, so in the next six months, I think they will cease to be Nazis. I’m observing these work - well, darling straight, their mother. Half the country goes to work for us for fat.
      In general, they don’t really have skiing - they’re called off so that it’s just right to go to a chair to a psycho.
      Here are the mayonnaise flip flops, the damnation of the Baskervilles, e-mine on our neck. Shaw, Hazu dumb, naphtha dumb, dumb pennies, but sho you have MA? It would be better if you yourself were dumb.
    3. +6
      10 May 2016 06: 40
      Eugene, watch the video on * Trumpet, "Immortal Regiment" in Haifa - look at the old people, most of them have Soviet awards - they are proud of the Red Stars
      Eugene, I will not forget that guard ...
    4. Ynros
      0
      12 May 2016 16: 26
      Action "Immortal regiment" in Kiev - Live - Inter Published: May 9, 2016
  6. +7
    10 May 2016 05: 53
    Summing up.
    Attitude to our Great Victory and to the date of 9 May, this is the watershed that draws the line between Russian Ukrainians and Svidomo labor Ukrainians. It is he who separates ours from ours.


    I agree ...
    What is noteworthy in confirming this watershed

    in the BALTIC and UKRAINE, the current political elite declares MAY 9 a day of mourning ...
    as I understand it, they grieve over the thousands of Nazis and Bandera who were destroyed by our glorious ancestors.
    In general, to each his own ... it’s a pity that not all fascists and followers of the BANDARA have just been destroyed ... but someday their time will come in time for everything.
    1. cap
      +2
      10 May 2016 08: 37
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      In general, to each his own ... it’s a pity that not all fascists and followers of the BANDARA have just been destroyed ... but someday their time will come in time for everything.


      Alexei, the NATO members are rushing them, so the neo-fascist turn will end very soon. There are not so many of them as the propaganda of Kiev draws.
      As soon as they receive a weapon on their head (those who took it in their hands for survival) and sweep this junta to a vigorous grandmother.
      This is where the problem with NATO will arise, the Americans will yell "they are beating ours."
      Something like this I present a scenario of action in the Western direction.
      The deployment of our armies in the ZVO is a timely measure.
      That something like this. hi
  7. +6
    10 May 2016 05: 59
    I always watch Ivan! Clearly and in fact everything ... offset.
  8. +9
    10 May 2016 06: 02
    tough but true good although ... for horses this, on the contrary, is still mild.
    I think the whole reason for the habit of a freebie-USSR taught them, so they imagined that the whole world (tm) owed them fool
    1. +4
      10 May 2016 06: 15
      Yesterday I watched the video "Immortal Regiment" in Haifa, in the crowd (in the crowd?) I saw a familiar face
      1. +3
        10 May 2016 07: 18
        Jews also fought, so nothing strange. or is it about Svidomo who became a Jew from hunger?
        1. 0
          10 May 2016 08: 07
          I saw a friend of Baku = fellow countryman Ts **** on
          In his hands is a portrait of the deceased grandfather (this is not the one on the screen I laid out)
  9. Dex
    +22
    10 May 2016 06: 16
    Let's take away the hats prepared for the heroic swing. Have you seen children playing in your yard? All the same - the denigration of Americanism: all these Hollywood and Disney films have long pushed the Great Soviet Childhood out of their minds. Communicate with any teenager or preschooler ... It is high time to send urapatriotism from ugugukanya on the forum, into real cultivation (which I myself am doing and I urge you). Ask your child "there is always a place in life ..." (why?) Be surprised at the answer, no, far from a feat! Or pay attention to what is pouring into the ears of your children: "I boom-boom-boom" now, instead of the former "But you are a man, you are both strong and brave, Do your destiny with your own hands. Go against the wind, on do not stand there, Understand, there is no simple road! ". So I repeat, remove the hats, stop thinking that we have no problems and go to do the hard daily educational work!
    1. +2
      10 May 2016 07: 43
      Or pay attention to what is pouring into the ears of your children: "I boom-boom-boom" now, instead of the former "But you are a man, you are both strong and brave, Do your destiny with your own hands. Go against the wind, on do not stand there, Understand, there is no simple road! ". So I repeat, remove the hats, stop thinking that we have no problems and go to do the hard daily educational work!


      Pay attention - Moscow "Children's World" has opened after renovation. I decided to look, remember my childhood. For us it was a magical palace, unusually vivid and long-lasting impressions. And what did we see in the design and on the windows? Solid imports, solid Hollywood, the cult of Americanization of children's thinking. Look sickening. Yes, modern Russian children will have completely different impressions and memories.
      1. cap
        0
        10 May 2016 08: 41
        Quote: XYZ
        Watch sickeningly. Yes, the impressions and memories of modern Russian children will be completely different.


        These creations can only be created by looking at the investor in one place (which I will not explain). Sales and bribery, with the complete connivance of the Ministry of Culture.
        That something like this.
  10. +3
    10 May 2016 06: 20
    When the Ukrainian people reach "the handle" and take the pitchfork, then the words of Evil Ivan and Ivan Victory will become a guide to action for them. And Russia should not indulge the current regime in Ukraine.
    1. Ynros
      -4
      11 May 2016 22: 46
      The power of the USSR and the Russian Federation has always indulged WATCH - Top Secret Fascist sword forged in the USSR
  11. +5
    10 May 2016 06: 26
    we really have someone and something to be proud of soldier good hi
    1. Ynros
      -4
      11 May 2016 22: 35
      Some Russian military units that fought on the side of Nazi Germany
      You need to know the history of your country. Even so shameful.
      ROA Vlasova (0,8 ... 1,3 million people),
      Russian Corps (about 15000 people),
      RONA (more than 15000 people),
      Muravyov’s battalion,
      Combat Union of Russian Nationalists (BSRN),
      Brotherhood of Russian Truth, Division "Russland",
      Volunteer SS Regiment "Varyag",
      Green Special Forces
      Committee for the Liberation of the Peoples of Russia (CONR),
      National Socialist Party,
      Organization "Zeppelin",
      Russian detachment of the 9th army of the Wehrmacht,
      XIVI
      Russian personnel in the SS Charlemagne division,
      Russian personnel in the SS Wallonia Division,
      Russian personnel in the SS Dirlenvagen division,
      ROND / RNSD and many others
      Cossacks of Kaminsky,
      First Eastern Reserve Regiment "Center" Lieutenant Colonel Yagnenko,
      Volunteer regiment "Desna" Major Outch
      etc.
      In the ROA of Vlasov alone, during its existence, there were from 800 to 000 people !!!
      Ukrainian "Galicia" together with "Nachtigall" - about 51 people, but they fought for the independence of Ukraine and did not fight in Russia. After Hitler's refusal to independence Ukraine, they fought against Giler.
      By the way, the black and orange stripe, from which Russian propaganda made the "St. George's" ribbon, the symbol of Victory, was worn by the Cossacks who fought on the side of the Nazis against the Red Army.

      ATTENTION !!!!!! Ukrainian military units that fought on the side of Nazi Germany. SS Division

      - "Galicia" - numbered about 50 people during its entire existence (they were not citizens of the USSR until 000).
      - Battalion "Nachtigall" -800 people (were not citizens of the USSR until 1939).

      ATTENTION ! The OUN-UPA fought against invaders of all stripes from the Nazis to the Communists in Ukraine. Her warriors are justified even by the Nuremberg Tribunal, so we do not take into account.

      You need to know the history of your country. Even so shameful.
      1. +1
        12 May 2016 14: 41
        From where 1, even mildly speaking, Wikipedia, which is not objective to Russia, cites the figure of 300. And in general, not a single sane person will arm a half a million dark horses. 000 million is a fifth of the Wehrmacht. The author needs to live more modestly.
        1. Ynros
          0
          12 May 2016 15: 35
          Russian collaborationism in the Second World War
          Material from YOUR FAVORITE Wikipedia - the free encyclopedia

          In parts of the Wehrmacht from 1940 to 1945. served up to 1,5 million citizens of the USSR (only in 1944, up to 1 million, about 3 million were in the Third Reich for forced labor. The Germans are very punctual in chronology and statistics. before you argue, study the mate question, all the pitfalls .. God be with these collaborators.YOU BETTER TELL WHY IN THE USSR FROM 1947 TO 1965 THE VICTORY HOLIDAY WAS CANCELED AND MAY 9 WAS A WORKING DAY?
          1. 0
            12 May 2016 18: 00
            I apologize, I did not exactly put it. I mean ROA Vlasov, but otherwise everything is correct, you need to live more modestly. The Wehrmacht served 1,3 million citizens of the USSR (and Ukrainians, including whom you somehow want to separate), and basically they were those who just wanted to survive, as evidenced by the statistics of desertion. Remembering in the vein of our argument forcibly stolen people is generally not ethical. As for the cancellation on May 9, I honestly don’t know, but I think that the overwhelming majority of people remembered the war and did not need a memorable date. As far as the material part is concerned, there is nothing necessary for the details; one must understand the main thing.
          2. 0
            12 May 2016 22: 06
            1. about the collaborators in the Wehrmacht: at least 90% were just heavis (Helschweliger seems) who were more afraid of death than betrayal.
            no ideology or belief, just animal fear.
            The Germans simply interned home similar Europeans, and used the Russians as slaves. I will notice that in Germany more than a million French served and worked. This is me because colaborationism is an international property and you have not discovered ANYTHING special.
            2. May 9 was a working day, because the Soviet economy was seriously destroyed after the war and the country was rebuilding it. January 1 is winter, and May 9 is an important day for agriculture, the country was threatened by hunger. This does NOT apply to the meaning of the day on May 9 or January 2, which was exclusively compelled by the economy and the brutal position of the arrogant Saxons, who threatened the country's nuclear bombardment, because of which the USSR was forced to bear large expenditures on the defense industry and could not direct them to the economy.
            1. Ynros
              0
              13 May 2016 03: 24
              Do you yourself even understand what you are writing? OR SOVIET ADVOCACY YOU EXTREMELY SURVIVED FROM MIND? HOW CAN THE MAIN HOLIDAY OF VICTORY AFTER THE REVOLUTION, BE A WORKING DAY ALMOST 20 YEARS? THINK EVEN KHRUSHCHEV DID NOT MAKE CHANGES! ONLY BREZHNEV, THE LOVER OF THE CELEBRATIONS APPROVED THE HOLIDAY - VICTORY DAY! So why did they cut the winner to the people like that? With MESHNO! THIS Shameful Fact Will Still Raise Historians! Stalin took the Victory Day from the Soviet people in revenge, because he was afraid of rebellion, heroes throughout the country had guns and more than once lynched the bureaucrats of the Soviet party nomenclature, gathered all the disabled and exported to Valaam AND THIS Shameful fact on the conscience of the Soviet authorities! You correctly said that collaborationism in Europe was in every country occupied by Hitler, BUT THERE IS NO TRAFFICKING ANYWHERE IN THE USSR!
              The myth that only a miserable bunch of renegades fought on the side of the Nazis was created by Stalin during the war. The so-called Russian Liberation Army (ROA) was formed by General Vlasov, who voluntarily sided with the Wehrmacht commander of the 2nd shock army
              In the very first weeks of the war, the Wehrmacht encountered a mass of defectors, for the maintenance of which several special camps had to be created. At the beginning of August 1941 there were about 60 people in them, and by the end of the year the total number of Red Army troops who had switched to the Wehrmacht had already exceeded 000.
              In the fall of 1941, recruitment began in the so-called national units of the Wehrmacht. 90 battalions and several dozen Baltic, Belarusian, and Ukrainian formations were created. But the Cossack regiments became the most numerous formations in the Wehrmacht. August 22, 1941 on the side of the enemy, almost in full force, 436 regiment of the Red Army moved. He crossed with the banner and led by the commander, Major Kononov. Already in September, Kononov formed the first Cossack regiment, and a year later more than 20 Don, Kuban and Tere Cossack regiments fought in the Wehrmacht.
              famous "Stalinist falcons" who fought on the side of the Germans: Heroes of the Soviet Union Captain Bychkov Semyon Trofimovich, Senior Lieutenant Antilevsky Bronislav Romanovich, as well as their commander - Colonel of the Red Army Air Force Viktor Ivanovich Maltsev For V.I. Maltsev, being in the basements of the NKVD was the main motive for going over to the side of the enemy. ... Various sources also mention those who collaborated with the Germans: Acting Commander of the Air Force of the 20th Army of the Western Front, Colonel Vanyushin Alexander Fedorovich, who became Deputy and Chief of Staff at Maltsev, Chief of Communications of the 205th Fighter Air Division Major Sitnik Serafima Zakharovna, Squadron Commander of the 13th Aviation Regiment high-speed bombers Captain F. I. Ripushinsky, Captain A. P. Mettl (real name - Retivov), who served in the aviation of the Black Sea Fleet, and others. According to the calculations of the historian K.M. Aleksandrov, there were 38 of them in total.
              these examples are only part of the list .....
            2. Ynros
              0
              13 May 2016 03: 49
              betrayal and surrender took such a sweep on the fronts that Stalin accepted firing articles for deserters
              “The Soviet government did not hide the attitude towards citizens who fell into the hands of the enemy. The notorious article 58–1 b of the Criminal Code of the USSR of 1934 provided for appropriate punishment. During the war, Stalin personally issued a number of orders that threatened draconian measures with deserters and prisoners of war, for example, Order No. 227, which was issued in 1942 and read out in all parts of the Soviet army. Similar orders were issued in 1943 and 1944, with some changes in connection with current military tasks. Soviet soldiers were ordered to commit suicide in case of threat of surrender. ”2) Article 58-1 in the Criminal Code of the RSFSR of 1926 is worded as follows:

              "58-1" a ". Treason to the Motherland, i.e. actions committed by citizens of the USSR to the detriment of the military power of the USSR, its state independence or inviolability, such as espionage, the issuance of military or state secrets, switching to the enemy’s side, flight or flight abroad, are punishable by capital punishment - execution with confiscation of everything property, and under extenuating circumstances - with imprisonment for a term of ten years with confiscation of all property.

              58-1 "b". The same crimes committed by military personnel are punishable by capital punishment - execution with confiscation of all property. ”
  12. +5
    10 May 2016 06: 28
    We will be honest, Ukraine was missed. An entire generation is grown up on autonomy and hatred of the Russians. It is impossible to change the mind of the jumping crowd. This is a break in the template that neither this power nor the next will go to. Someone at VO correctly noted that in the near future they would argue that the victory in the Second World War was won by kakly with mattresses and not otherwise. And it remains for us to resist for the sake of those who passed yesterday with portraits of their ancestors in the ranks of the Immortal regiment. For their memory, for the memory of their descendants. Yes, this is a split in society, this is a split in consciousness, and we must take it for granted. Accept that Ukraine will never stand next to Russia as a state ...
    1. +1
      10 May 2016 11: 09
      Quote: Canecat
      And it remains for us to resist for the sake of those who yesterday passed with portraits of their ancestors in the ranks of the Immortal regiment. For their memory, for the memory of their descendants. Yes, this is a split in society, this is a split in consciousness, and we must take it for granted. Accept that Ukraine will never stand next to Russia as a state ...

      Remember the 90s, how yesterday's "communists" quickly repainted in the right colors. So it will be in Ukraine as soon as the trend changes and the appropriate person with a team in power appears, now there are no such people on the horizon. This is a specific and serious flaw on our part, but it is quite possible for such a person to appear in Novorossiya and a chain reaction in the form of uprisings (the gradual liberation of region by region, region by region from the fascists), and if the leaders from fear are not extinguished by those who are always looking for profit in everything oligarchs.
      1. +2
        11 May 2016 10: 24
        the problem is not the fascists. there will be none, others will appear, for example, a party for the defense of gophers from Russian aggression and the Buryat genocide. Natsik and their existence-a consequence of the loss of authority of the Russian Federation. Here it is necessary to restore it, and not in Ukraine, but with us, inside.
    2. +2
      11 May 2016 10: 21
      Have you looked at the map? Ukraine stood and stands NEAR
      you just need to work hard ... no, not on campaigning in Ukraine, enough to invest in a black hole, but on your national idea and domestic policy. Until we become an example and a leader for our neighbors, for them the worst will be the leader - now it is NATO or the USA or the European Union, but not the Russian Federation.
    3. Ynros
      0
      12 May 2016 17: 11
      Bandera cafe in Lviv - Cafe Kryivka, a popular cafe among Russian tourists.
      Lviv is a very beautiful old city with unique architecture, historical sights and original culture. And it has places where every tourist wants to look. Such a place is the underground restaurant "Kryivka", which means "refuge, secret place". In our opinion, this is a place for relaxation and acquaintance with the history of Lviv. As for politics, then ... here everyone is welcome, no matter what language you speak. But there are some tricks. Why not :) a trip to "Kryvka"!
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  14. +7
    10 May 2016 07: 39
    Walk with the St. George ribbon in the free capital of a free state.
    1. 0
      12 May 2016 22: 15
      sheer hysteria
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  16. +3
    10 May 2016 08: 03
    Ivan, as always well done, is intelligibly and clearly on the shelves, I’m afraid I won’t get burned, the brain is undeadly atrophied and washed for 20 years, if the veterans were taken the victory banner, and trash, I hope they end like their corrupt ancestors, Binder. Now, of course, the previously silent people of the outskirts began to think more and more, and what next? And then no one can show the way from the horses of the Maidan and the oligarchs, the limit of insanity has been reached, the country is steadily dropping to the point of no return, well, for what they fought for it and ran into it, omega and its European colonies will help them go down in the Middle Ages, they have now proclaimed themselves to be agrarians, they inherited from the USSR high-tech production is now unnecessary, here is the price of their freedom - the dream of working in Europe to clean up tremors and this is, at best, just disgusting hi
    1. Ynros
      -4
      11 May 2016 22: 32
      1 million Russians who fought for Hitler St. George ribbon and Tricolor
      Remember. St. George Ribbon has NO relation to Victory. With the St. George ribbon you can mark your memory of the First World War, Russian-Japanese, Crimean and other wars of Tsarist Russia.

      Victory Tape is called the Guards. Victory Flag - red.

    2. 0
      12 May 2016 22: 30
      they don’t understand that their humiliating deceitfulness to the Europeans and hysteria in relation to everything that reminds of the USSR, NEVER have done ANYONE in history well.
      Every ethnos or people that did this was trampled into the mud or disappeared altogether. And they themselves trample under the howls of a better life and damned M0SKALs. And they will trample. And I don’t want to help them, I’ve already seen so much disgusting that I don’t want to. I will be pleased when they themselves will dig a hole for themselves to the bottom, and when they scream "help", I will insert beads into their ears. Nobody tried to fight off the guy from the psychos, they hounded him, and people passed by. And 20 years ago, this same woman, I am sure, was screwing other people for looking askance at Lenin and in 5 years she will throw herself at those who were in the ATO. Rabies needs to be treated, not encouraged.
  17. +5
    10 May 2016 08: 09
    But I agree with Canecat. But I will deepen his thought ... About the lost generation. This applies not only to Ukraine. Now the children of those who survived and made a career and money after the dashing 90s have become adults. These children of the bandits graduated from MGIMO, Moscow State University, Leningrad State University and other "cool" universities with their parents' money, bought positions and are now in power. How to deal with them? And they are everywhere! Generals, prosecutors, judges, special investigators, governors, mayors, ministers ... How to deal with them? It's not in (in) Ukraine, it's here, in Russia! Maybe you shouldn't go into someone else's garden until we figure out our weeds to make it more attractive to others?
  18. cap
    +1
    10 May 2016 08: 11
    See you soon!

    I think there are watering machines in the city of Kiev hero.
    GermansGermans
    1. Ynros
      -5
      11 May 2016 22: 00
      "Russian world" is coming "Crimea is not enough for us" "Day of the Russian nation" in Moscow. "Our MIGs will land in Riga! Our tanks will be in Prague ..."
      nobody arrests them, judges them for estrimism, the reality of the Russian Federation.

  19. HAM
    +15
    10 May 2016 08: 12
    Everything goes in a circle ......
    1. 0
      10 May 2016 09: 07
      These photos also have critical days, estrus (s).
      1. Ynros
        -1
        11 May 2016 22: 59
        Bedrosovich ... Russia
    2. +1
      11 May 2016 12: 14
      ONE ALREADY DIPPED (YARD RUNNING OUT), AT LEAST INITIAL SCREAMING. BETTER BULLET IN THE FOREBORE ...
    3. Ynros
      -4
      11 May 2016 21: 46
      Red poppy (born Remembrance poppy, meaning poppy samoseyka) is a symbol of memory of the victims of the First World War, and subsequently - the victims of all military and civil armed conflicts, starting in 1914. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gelKSC8cz54
  20. +1
    10 May 2016 09: 05
    Evil and true!
  21. +3
    10 May 2016 09: 22
    Those who respect their ancestors are fighting and honoring memory. In Russia, the concept of gender has always been strong (son for father, father for grandfather ... young and old). And now there is an informational and economic war not only with Russia, but and with other Soviet republics. Some of them bend, others still hold on and do not give up. For example, Moldova, whose citizens drove the NATO haulers of democracy from the squares and passed the Immortal Regiment through the city streets.
  22. +2
    10 May 2016 09: 31
    Of course, it is a pity for Ukraine, but it seems that the bulk of the people do not care, and as you know, every nation deserves the power that it has, and it has what we see ... rare weather exceptions do not ... and don't give a damn will be done only with a direct military strike and occupation with the denazification and deukropization of a reasonable part of the citizens, and the rest for re-education - graze deer and feed the seals ...
    1. +2
      11 May 2016 12: 17
      THE MAIN BODY IS SCARED, AND A NEW GENERATION FROM THE KINDERGARTEN TEACHES THAT BANDERS A HERO.
  23. 0
    10 May 2016 11: 25
    The article is a huge plus.
  24. +3
    10 May 2016 11: 28
    Oh, how complicated everything is with Ukraine ... Having created a state without a nation, they began to create a nation. To create a nation by uniting the population of the territory of a new state is possible only if the new nation confronts another. Russia and the Russian people were chosen as the object of the confrontation. The result of the confrontation of nations is always only the collapse of the nation and the stagnation of the victorious nation. Oh, how complicated everything is in this world ...
  25. 0
    10 May 2016 17: 46
    I agree with every word of the article ... And what to do with them (you know with whom)? I do not know; honestly, I don’t know. I am afraid that when the last ones die, who remember and understand what VICTORY is (and they will die, no matter how sad it is), there will be some kind of education of people (nonhumans) with whom it will hardly be possible to find a common language. We can only hope that there are sane people in Europe, albeit fixated on their own benefit, but realizing that nothing will shine for them with THESE. Or maybe a generation will be born that will remember their "Svidomo" parents with shame and go the normal way. "It's a pity .......... neither I nor you will have to" (C)
  26. +1
    10 May 2016 22: 41
    I looked again at the new Euro-Ukrovsky "victory symbol" ... and oh .., went crazy in general. LIKE IT IN EUROPEAN !!!!! Nothing less than "entering the anus" !!!! Tolerance is complete!
    1. Ynros
      -1
      11 May 2016 23: 10
      Well, what can you say))) in Russians, everything is perceived through ... opu)))) the whole world perceives it as a bullet wound, a black dot and red blood around ... a poppy symbol .. and you))) sorry for the strange perception)) )
  27. +2
    11 May 2016 07: 23
    Well written.
    And what is it, sorry for the anus? Is this a new character tucked away? And what is symbolic.

    PS. I read: this, like, poppy.))))) Have you ever seen poppies? And the chemicals from poppies are curious ... Datura and the anus as a result are a good symbol for Ukrainians. The most that.
    1. Ynros
      -1
      12 May 2016 15: 46
      I AM SURPRISED BY YOUR PERCEPTION, READING THE POSTS YOU ARE BEGINNING TO THINK involuntarily, WHY THE MEN WRITE ABOUT THE REAR PASS AND ASSOCIATED WITH THEM ALL WITH .. HOPPY .. GUYS YOU WHICH ORIENTATION? ))))
  28. 0
    11 May 2016 12: 03
    Bravo! Not an Article, but a real Manifesto.
  29. 0
    11 May 2016 12: 56
    Well said it all!

    I’ll add from myself. A very strange feeling from the unreality of what is happening on the outskirts. The widespread insanity of a whole nation?
    Like a bunch of fascists, no matter who they call themselves in essence, their ideology is fascist, could they intoxicate an entire nation ??? For what??? To clean, sorry, the sewer from a well-fed burgher and serve customers on some kind of highway?
    Even if all this happened with the direct intervention of the State Department, but how can you brainwash the whole country in such a short period of time? How can you forget your story and start writing a new one? Which on the one hand is ingratiating and servile-Khaluy before the West and skewed from malice towards Russia on the other.

    There is one question that worries me. If Ukraine was in the sphere of interests of Russia. How could this happen?
    1. +1
      11 May 2016 20: 36
      Quote: ram_design
      There is one question that worries me. If Ukraine was in the sphere of interests of Russia. How could this happen?

      Ah, as with us, we don’t like to know and love history!
      Dive into the mud and find out! Answer one small question, what was the economic, political, so-called and very deliciously exaggerated in various media - USSR Hegemony?
      It is good if the son comes to his parents and asks for forgiveness, but not all sins are forgiven!
      "Behold at the root!" (Kozma Prutkov).
  30. 0
    11 May 2016 19: 21
    EVERYTHING IS CLEAR TO ALL ..... BRAVO !!!!! drinks good
  31. 0
    11 May 2016 20: 00
    Quote: 79522873048
    Although initially shouted. BETTER BULLET IN THE FOREON ...

    Someone lay on the rails ...
  32. +1
    11 May 2016 20: 29
    Quote: ram_design
    There is one question that worries me. If Ukraine was in the sphere of interests of Russia. How could this happen?

    She was part of the sphere of the oligarchs who ruled under EBN in Russia. And accordingly, she acted according to the principle - divide and rule. So it was easier for them to rule, but then in Russia they were removed from direct control, and on the outskirts, on the contrary, they came into full force and therefore the division of peoples was beneficial to them. And complete dependence on the SGA demanded a policy pleasing to the "owner". Only the return of Russia to true socialism, in contrast to the Khrushchev era built in the USSR, can return the Russians in Ukraine to a single cultural and national bosom of the Slavs with the center in Russia. hi And it is possible through the blood of the Civil War, although Putin and K seek to avoid this, but delaying treatment is fraught with amputation of part of the diseased organism! angry
  33. Ynros
    0
    11 May 2016 21: 33
    Victory Tape is called the Guards. Victory Flag - red.
    Why St. George ribbon is not a symbol of Victory in the Great Patriotic War!
    Since 2005, in Russia, before May 9, an orange-black St. George ribbon has been actively distributed as a symbol of Victory in the Second World War.
    In fact, it is the St. George ribbon that has nothing to do with Victory.
    In the photo there is a medal "For the victory over Germany". The ribbon to it is called the Guards, not the Georgievskaya.
    A bit of history. The St. George Ribbon was established as an award in 1769. Then her colors were described as "black and yellow". It was also an addition to the St. George Cross, the Order of St. George and the St. George medal. Since 1913, its colors are black and orange.

    In the Red Army, no St. George ribbon could be. In December 1917, all the awards of the Russian Empire in Soviet Russia were abolished and their wearing did not comply with the charter.

    The ribbon, which is attached to the Soviet Order of Glory and the Medal "For Victory over Germany," really has a similar color. Yes, that's just it is called not Georgievskaya, but Guards.

    Unfortunately, amateurs often try to do history. It's like with football - in history, almost everyone considers themselves specialists. However, such a massive falsification (intentional or stupid) of the past cannot but alarm.

    Who actually fought with the St. George ribbon in 1941 - 1945?
    For example, the Russian Liberation Army of Vlasov, who fought on the side of Hitler.

    Ataman Pyotr Krasnov, who also supported Hitler. He really participated in the war, dressing the George Cross, which he received back in 1915

    It would be funny if it weren’t so sad.
    Well, I especially want to note that the second symbol, unchanged at the parade is the white-blue-red flag, which also has nothing to do with Victory. Our grandfathers fought under the red flag including against those who used the modern tricolor of the Russian Federation. This is what another ROA award looks like.

    In general, some kind of symbolic parade named after General Vlasov ...

    Remember. St. George Ribbon has NO relation to Victory. With the St. George ribbon you can mark your memory of the First World War, Russian-Japanese, Crimean and other wars of Tsarist Russia.

    Victory Tape is called the Guards. Victory Flag - red.
  34. Ynros
    -2
    11 May 2016 21: 35
    Victory Tape is called the Guards. Victory Flag - red.
    In the photo there is a medal "For the victory over Germany". The ribbon to it is called the Guards, not the Georgievskaya.

    Since 2005, before May 9, the orange-black St. George ribbon has been actively distributed in Russia as a symbol of Victory in the Second World War. It has become fashionable (just "fashionable") to decorate your accounts in social networks with these ribbons, to write "Thank you, veterans", etc. But why write this where the real veterans won't read you?

    Oh well.

    In fact, it is the St. George ribbon that has nothing to do with Victory.
    A bit of history. The St. George Ribbon was established as an award in 1769. Then her colors were described as "black and yellow". It was also an addition to the St. George Cross, the Order of St. George and the St. George medal. Since 1913, its colors are black and orange.

    In the Red Army, no St. George ribbon could be. In December 1917, all the awards of the Russian Empire in Soviet Russia were abolished and their wearing did not comply with the charter.

    The ribbon, which is attached to the Soviet Order of Glory and the Medal "For Victory over Germany," really has a similar color. Yes, that's just it is called not Georgievskaya, but Guards.

    Unfortunately, amateurs often try to do history. It's like with football - in history, almost everyone considers themselves specialists. However, such a massive falsification (intentional or stupid) of our past cannot but alarm.

    Who actually fought with the St. George ribbon in 1941 - 1945?
    For example, the Russian Liberation Army of Vlasov, who fought on the side of Hitler.

    Ataman Pyotr Krasnov, who also supported Hitler. He really participated in the war, dressing the George Cross, which he received back in 1915.

    It would be funny if it weren’t so sad.
    Well, I especially want to note that the second symbol, unchanged for the parade - the white-blue-red flag, also has no relation to Victory http: //. Our grandfathers fought under the red flag including against those who used the modern tricolor of the Russian Federation. This is what another ROA award looks like.
    In general, some kind of symbolic parade named after General Vlasov ...

    Remember. St. George Ribbon has NO relation to Victory. With the St. George ribbon you can mark your memory of the First World War, Russian-Japanese, Crimean and other wars of Tsarist Russia.

    Victory Tape is called the Guards. Victory Flag - red.
  35. +2
    11 May 2016 21: 45
    Joke: family is sitting in the kitchen - mother, father and son. The son, a teenager, asks: what is a blowjob? Mother blushes, turns pale, tries to explain: well ..... this ... when they take it in her mouth ...
    Father with all the dope pounding his wife in the forehead with a spoon: fool !! they don’t take, but give! Man pОSteam !!!
    So this interpretation of events: people are trying to make a victorious people - the one who takes in .....!
    Ukraine!! Rus !! Your division !! Himself not ashamed? You - we are the winners !!
    1. Ynros
      0
      12 May 2016 17: 22
      How to get to the Russian Orthodox Church in Lviv - an experiment showed that in Lviv tolerant people.
  36. 0
    11 May 2016 23: 02
    Bravo Evil Ivan, I agree with every word. From myself I will only add, history for the nation is like those roots. A tree without roots is not viable, so are the people. They betrayed their history and are not worthy of the future.
  37. +1
    12 May 2016 15: 04
    Quote: YNROS
    ROA Vlasova (0,8 ... 1,3 million people),

    But lying is not good - the number of ROA is estimated at 120000 - 130000 people
    And there also include KONR and the Russian corps.

    Quote: YNROS
    Russian personnel in the SS division "Dirlenvagen"

    In this case, the entire division is difficult not only to sort by nationality, but even to be ranked as a human race.

    Quote: YNROS
    In the ROA of Vlasov alone, during its existence, there were from 800 to 000 people !!!

    1 is the total number of Soviet citizens who fought on the side of Germany (including Ukrainians and the Baltic states). I repeat once again - lying is not good. If you are interested in the number of Russians, then this is approximately 300

    Quote: YNROS
    Ukrainian "Galicia" together with "Nachtigal" - about 51 people, but they fought for the independence of Ukraine

    By mass destruction of the mass population. And not only in Ukraine, but also in Belarus, Yugoslavia, Slovakia. Everywhere where frostbiters were needed. And why these units did not reach the territory of the RSFSR directly - their fighting qualities were not a secret for the Germans, and Galichina was not put to close the hole under Brody from a good life. As it turned out, the Germans were right - the division for the most part fled.
    And then, do not tell me how the SS division could fight for the independence of the Reich?
    But Nachtigall is generally Abwehr - directly notebook fighters for an independent Ukraine. Like Bandera, an Abwehr agent since 1939.

    And UPA is your bandits and killers. Volhynia alone is worth something.
    1. Ynros
      -1
      12 May 2016 15: 15
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%BA%

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    13 May 2016 05: 37
    I remember the feat of grandfathers sober not only on May 9 and without colorado (for me, the symbol of May 9 cloves)