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Poroshenko: indisputable facts prove that Russia would not defeat fascism without Ukraine

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Petro Poroshenko, speaking to veterans in Kiev, said that without the participation of Ukrainians, victory over fascism in World War II would have been impossible, reports RIA News message of the press service of the Ukrainian president.




“How is it possible against the background of such undeniable historical facts to have the audacity to declare that Russia would have won the war without Ukraine. We would not have won this war without the Ukrainians ... ",
Poroshenko declared.

At the same time, he did not specify who this “insolent” person was, disputing the contribution of Ukraine to the common cause of the Great Victory, which, excuse me, idiot could have come up with such a thought. If Poroshenko hints at Moscow, then this is unlikely. Most likely, this statement is the improvisation of the “great” European integrator itself, who continues to destroy the interethnic ties of the two fraternal peoples.

Recall, the Russian leadership has repeatedly stated that it was a common victory. Vladimir Putin, in particular, stressed that "it is necessary to remember the heroism of representatives of all nationalities." And the State Duma Chairman Sergei Naryshkin said that “the soldiers and officers of the Soviet army had one Motherland, and at the front it never occurred to anyone to divide into Russians and Armenians, Ukrainians and Kazakhs, Tatars and Georgians.”
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  1. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 9 May 2016 10: 05
    +13
    fool No words ... request
    1. Finches
      Finches 9 May 2016 10: 19
      +26
      There is only one indisputable fact - the duration of heavy drinking by the Ukrainian president increases exponentially over time ... laughing
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 9 May 2016 10: 30
        +56
        And these people once wore shoulder straps of Soviet soldiers ...
        1. iliitchitch
          iliitchitch 9 May 2016 11: 32
          +20
          Quote: Thrall
          And these people once wore shoulder straps of Soviet soldiers ...


          Moreover, they must have been good comrades in the service. Well, except that smart ass is unnecessary. Well, they have it national, and they are not creative, fact. They are guided in life with the eternal thought - "to squeeze!" ... Well, at least something from someone, but wring it out. With the advent of “patriotism,” more and more people wanted, but only fewer and fewer wanted to substitute. The logical result is to suck at least something from someone. There is a road for them, together with the controlled population, which does not even hum, but simply stupidly keeps silent. Not a fig they do not mind. And it’s time to stupidly bang these ghoul leaders - you never know, the parashenko motorcade at the grandmother’s cat ran over and did not notice, but she harbored maliciously, used the SVDeshka to grandfather for its intended purpose. It happens. These zomboys are straining at their side, something needs to be solved with them.
          1. HERMES
            HERMES 9 May 2016 13: 21
            +7
            Quote: iliitch
            “How is it possible, against the background of such undeniable historical facts, to have the audacity to declare that Russia would have won the war without Ukraine. Would not have won this war without the Ukrainians ... "


            Well then ... equipment and aircraft flew in melted fat, Berlin took Bandera ...

            Such an onslaught could be sustained only by all together. And win only together.

            Without the Ukrainians, they could have managed ... there was enough manpower without them. But without the Baku oil ... ~ 70-80% of ALL USSR equipment in the years of the Second World War moved and flew to it ...

            I propose to give the title of Hero City - Baku. He deserves it.
            1. Ivan_ich
              Ivan_ich 10 May 2016 06: 48
              +1
              Again, the Soviet Union is to blame, did not let the Great Urks personally defeat the Fritz ..
          2. naraevskij1957
            naraevskij1957 10 May 2016 18: 53
            +1
            The answer is cool, BUT CORRECT
        2. Monos
          Monos 9 May 2016 12: 06
          +9
          Quote: Thrall
          And these people once wore shoulder straps of Soviet soldiers ...
        3. parafoiler
          parafoiler 9 May 2016 17: 03
          +2
          But only fascism managed to bite Ukraine and mortally infect it with itself ...
        4. Lelek
          Lelek 9 May 2016 18: 58
          +2
          Quote: Thrall
          And these people once wore shoulder straps of Soviet soldiers ...


          And these still have Russian citizenship and carry Russian passports:
          (cry.)
        5. naraevskij1957
          naraevskij1957 10 May 2016 18: 51
          0
          power, money, greed, unprincipledness. HERE, which leads people to such irresponsible state
      2. Dam
        Dam 9 May 2016 11: 41
        +7
        Having won another victory over vodka, the leader of the natii won virtual victories in the information space
      3. parafoiler
        parafoiler 9 May 2016 17: 03
        +1
        But only fascism managed to bite Ukraine and mortally infect it with itself ...
      4. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 9 May 2016 19: 37
        +7
        "We would not have won this war without the Ukrainians ..."

        Fucking idiom! Then there were no Uzbeks, nor Russians, nor Ukrainians in the army! There was one Great Soviet People. Therefore, they won the victory because they did not divide people into nationalities. And they were not engaged in commerce, but were dying for their homeland.
        You can immediately see the upbringing of his father - criminal Valtsman Alexei Ivanovich.
      5. Maxom75
        Maxom75 9 May 2016 21: 01
        +1
        Yes, it’s time to diagnose him, a clinical case of idiocy.
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 9 May 2016 10: 22
      +17
      Poroshenko: indisputable facts prove that Russia would not defeat fascism without Ukraine

      So far, everything says the opposite: in Russia there is no fascism, but in Ukraine it flourishes with a magnificent color.
      1. just exp
        just exp 9 May 2016 10: 41
        +9
        here he inadvertently made a mistake, saying that without Ukraine Russia could not have defeated the owners of the heroes of Ukraine from the OUN UPA.
        1. bulvas
          bulvas 9 May 2016 11: 30
          +29
          I do not want to say anything against the Ukrainians, but

          Ukraine was occupied almost the entire war, and after the liberation it was destroyed.

          In addition, a lot of effort was spent to drive Bandera from Ukraine


          People - yes, they fought along with the other peoples of the USSR, factories and specialists exported to the east, the T-34, created in Kharkov, but Ukraine itself, and even separately from the rest of the USSR .....?

          Correct if otherwise


          If Petya survives on the next Victory Day, we will hear that Ukraine fought against Hitler on the side of the USA and Great Britain and thereby made a huge contribution to the Victory ...


          1. 73bor
            73bor 9 May 2016 15: 05
            +9
            I definitely know that without the Russian open spaces and the people living on them, the Ukrainian SSR would have been occupied for a very long time, from the letters of German soldiers the incomprehensibility of these immense SPACES is very well traced, I have a feeling that they (Europeans) felt, well, if not on another planet on the edge of the earth for sure, especially near Stalingrad!
            1. bulvas
              bulvas 9 May 2016 17: 20
              +7
              Quote: 73bor
              I definitely know that without the Russian open spaces and the people living on them, the Ukrainian SSR would have been occupied for a very long time, from the letters of German soldiers the incomprehensibility of these immense SPACES is very well traced, I have a feeling that they (Europeans) felt, well, if not on another planet on the edge of the earth for sure, especially near Stalingrad!


              I would also add that without Russia, without the rest of the USSR, Ukraine would never have become a flourishing republic with a developed and powerful industry.


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        3. Major Yurik
          Major Yurik 9 May 2016 11: 31
          +30
          Thoughts kaklopatriotov a couple of years Svidomo! fool
          1. iliitchitch
            iliitchitch 9 May 2016 11: 49
            +11
            Quote: Major Yurik
            Thoughts kaklopatriotov a couple of years Svidomo!


            It’s not easy with frost wassat :
            1. Lelek
              Lelek 9 May 2016 19: 03
              +4
              Quote: iliitch
              It’s not easy with frost


              Well, and not only with frost (although the frost is very even with it - he froze the heads of both).
          2. PValery53
            PValery53 9 May 2016 16: 21
            +1
            Deer is good. But not bad in hippos too.
        4. Lukich
          Lukich 9 May 2016 12: 13
          +16
          Quote: just explo
          here he inadvertently made a mistake, saying that without Ukraine Russia could not have defeated the owners of the heroes of Ukraine from the OUN UPA.
    3. sever.56
      sever.56 9 May 2016 10: 23
      +40
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/986/vabw560.png

      Except as a scoundrel and a villain, Potroshenko, after the unveiling of the monument to Jude Mazepa, and such statements, can not be called.
      Anyway: - the time will come, and he will hang upside down on Khreshchatyk, like Mussolini.
      Damn him for betraying the memory of the Ukrainians who died for our country
      and praises the executioners, Bandera !!!
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 9 May 2016 10: 40
        +50
        and he is already a symbol
        1. Exsubmariner
          Exsubmariner 9 May 2016 11: 42
          +3
          Hero cities 13.
          1. Lukich
            Lukich 9 May 2016 12: 10
            +5
            Quote: Exsubmariner
            Hero cities 13.

            Brest Hero Fortress
        2. rammjager
          rammjager 9 May 2016 11: 55
          -30%
          Who is the symbol? Zaldostanov’s prank? What is the symbol of? New Russia? Dear Lukich, answer one question. Sevastopol has been under Ukraine for 25 years. Is it the city of Judah?
          1. Lukich
            Lukich 9 May 2016 12: 10
            +24
            Quote: rammjager
            Lukich, answer one question. Sevastopol was under Ukraine for 25 years. Is it the city of Judah?

            Sevastopol was and remains a Russian city and there were no Maidan races of banderlogs and fascists
            1. rammjager
              rammjager 9 May 2016 12: 15
              +3
              I have no more questions.
        3. HERMES
          HERMES 9 May 2016 13: 38
          -5
          Quote: Lukich
          and he is already a symbol


          The title of Hero City was also necessary for Baku. Baku Oil - breathed life into a weapon of retaliation.



          Watch this documentary ... very well and beautifully shot.
    4. Pavel Tsybai
      Pavel Tsybai 9 May 2016 10: 33
      +2
      It is believed that syphilis is not four but all six crosses, they say they survive.
    5. kolobok63
      kolobok63 9 May 2016 11: 19
      +2
      As Ukrainians themselves say: "bad priest, bad and his prayer!" hi
      1. The point
        The point 9 May 2016 14: 58
        +3
        And they say: what is the pop-such and the parish. And Petyuni’s parishes are not weak, it’s stuck.
    6. Altona
      Altona 9 May 2016 12: 16
      +5
      Quote: Rurikovich
      No words ...

      -------------------
      I have a couple of words. What is it then the Svidomo troops of the Fuhrer with loafs ran out to meet? And why was all of Ukraine under German occupation?
    7. siberalt
      siberalt 9 May 2016 12: 29
      +3
      Again did not hangover laughing
    8. Sergey-8848
      Sergey-8848 9 May 2016 14: 26
      +4
      Well then what to do with them then?
      Dead soldiers look and see.
    9. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 May 2016 19: 30
      -7
      Then Ukraine sank in the boilers and lay down under the Germans - the warriors there were still there - hundreds of thousands surrendered.
    10. naraevskij1957
      naraevskij1957 10 May 2016 18: 49
      0
      YOU ARE RIGHT, NATIVE !!! I have a word. "MARASMUS"
  2. avvg
    avvg 9 May 2016 10: 07
    +18
    Next time Poroshenko will say that indisputable facts prove that without the participation of the "ancient ukrov", Columbus probably would not have discovered America.
    1. razmik72
      razmik72 9 May 2016 10: 12
      +7
      Quote: avvg
      Without the participation of "ancient ukrov", Columbus probably would not have discovered America.

      Without the participation of the Spaniards, Columbus certainly would not have discovered America. fellow
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 9 May 2016 10: 24
        +11
        The Spaniards are none other than the descendants of the great ukrov. Therefore, without the participation of the latter, there would have been no Spaniards, and therefore America would not have been open. Obviously the same. lol
    2. Lukich
      Lukich 9 May 2016 10: 27
      +27
      Quote: avvg
      Next time Poroshenko will say that indisputable facts prove that without the participation of the "ancient ukrov", Columbus probably would not have discovered America.
  3. dkflbvbh
    dkflbvbh 9 May 2016 10: 10
    +10
    "... continuing to destroy interethnic ties between the two fraternal peoples." - not fraternal, but a single people.

    Cons, as I understand it, "Eurokhokhly" instructed ...
    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 9 May 2016 11: 03
      +20
      Cons, as I understand it, "Eurokhokhly" instructed ...

      So they are in a deep grudge against us
      yesterday, all Ukrainian media in every way discussed the insidiousness of the "gas station" and Putin's attacks in the direction of Valtsman. Rather, the lack of such.

      Congratulations on Victory Day to the heads of several states, including the President of Ukraine, are not published on the Kremlin’s website. “Vladimir Putin congratulated the leaders of Azerbaijan, Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, as well as the citizens of Georgia and Ukraine on the 71st anniversary of the Victory in the Great Patriotic War,” the statement said. .

      Putin also noted in his congratulatory message that “one cannot allow a revision of the general history, a repetition of the tragic events of the past.” At the same time, those same liquidators of historical memory were most indignant over Putin’s inattention to the one-guarantor of a great nation. The option that Putin simply “scored” the owner of the Lipetsk confectionery factory almost brought the fans of the red poppy sect to hysteria, they considered it almost a declaration of war and disrespect for the country that during the Second World War fought against the “commies and soviets”.

      No, can you imagine, Karl, the country "aggressor" did not congratulate parsley. There are no words, no words.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 9 May 2016 10: 11
    +7
    without the participation of Ukrainians, victory over fascism in World War II would have been impossible

    When will he finally finish drinking and remember that he is already a whole president of a country that needs to be governed somehow. I settled down well - the Americans give instructions, they commit war crimes already on the "knurled", it remains only to puff up in Europe and plump, plump, plump ...
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 9 May 2016 10: 18
      +6
      Quote: rotmistr60
      it remains only to puff up in Europe and thump, thump, thump ...

      and in between money all over the world beg
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 9 May 2016 10: 26
      +5
      Quote: rotmistr60
      When will he finally finish drinking and remember that he is already a whole president of a country that needs to be governed somehow. I settled down well - the Americans give instructions, they commit war crimes already on the "knurled", it remains only to puff up in Europe and plump, plump, plump ...
      He thumps either from fear, or from the understanding that he and his mosquito will have to answer for everything. Those who ordered, wash their hands and say: "I, not I. The signatures are not mine. And you will not prove anything legally. Whoever signed, let him and answers. "Poroshenko will have to answer. Its facsimile is worth it.
  5. Magic archer
    Magic archer 9 May 2016 10: 11
    +12
    Yesterday they showed how UPA fought against the Nazis ... I didn’t see anything more crazy ... It's like a pig against dirt or a bee against honey ...
  6. LEVIAFAN
    LEVIAFAN 9 May 2016 10: 11
    +7
    in the morning already ... honored so to speak.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 9 May 2016 11: 15
      +10
      Quote: LEVIAFAN
      in the morning already ... honored so to speak.

      During the celebrations of 8 – 9 in May in Ukraine it will not be possible to use the Victory Banner.
      This was reported in the press service of the Ukrainian Institute of National Memory.
      So, according to the current legislation, the public use of the Victory Banner is “propaganda of the communist totalitarian regime”.
      “The“ flag of victory ”contains totalitarian communist symbolism, therefore its distribution or public use is propaganda of the communist totalitarian regime and is illegal,” explained Sergey Ryabenko, lawyer of the Ukrainian Institute of National Memory

      And after that any IT is still offended !!!! came up with "May 8-9 Day of Remembrance and Reconciliation dedicated to the memory of the victims of World War II" !!!!
      Yes, nevermind to you, not reconciliation! All the same, our veterans will come out wearing orders and medals! portraits of I.V. Stalin. all the same, our students put on a St. George ribbon! Shkandal !!! Guard!!!! Yes, only this means that it does not go to fool ALL! Anyway, we will win!
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 9 May 2016 11: 28
        +3
        Quote: Egoza
        And after that any IT is still offended !!!! came up with "May 8-9 Day of Remembrance and Reconciliation dedicated to the memory of the victims of World War II" !!!!

        Published: May 9 2016
        In Kharkov, while laying flowers at the Glory Memorial on Monday, May 9, 2016, a fight broke out between members of ultra-neo-Nazi organizations and people who were walking in a column to lay flowers at the Memorial.
  7. Victor-M
    Victor-M 9 May 2016 10: 13
    +9
    Petro Poroshenko, speaking to veterans in Kiev, said that without the participation of Ukrainians, victory over fascism in World War II would have been impossible, the press service of the Ukrainian president reports to RIA Novosti.

    Wow, seeing the atrocities of Bandera scum, the Soviet soldier became so furious that at the same time he broke the ridge of fascism.

    Poroshenko: undeniable facts prove that Russia would not triumph over fascism without Ukraine

    And yet Russia. laughing
  8. Redfox3k
    Redfox3k 9 May 2016 10: 13
    +3
    what’s there .... keep your pocket wider ... without Pedro Parashenko himself there would be no victory
    I put the minus ... Pedro Parashenka ... I had enough quotes from his speech.
  9. Dart2027
    Dart2027 9 May 2016 10: 14
    +29
    Son, there are adequate Ukrainians ... but they are Russian
    1. HERMES
      HERMES 9 May 2016 13: 51
      +2
      As it was said 2000 years ago - "Brother will rise against brother" ...

      “For the people shall rise against the people, and the kingdom against the kingdom; and there will be smooth waters and earthquakes in places. ”Matthew 24: 7.

      “And because of the multiplication of lawlessness, love will cool in many” Gospel of Matthew 24:12.

      “Know that in the last days perilous times will come. For people will be they are proud, silver-loving, proud, arrogant, malicious, parents disobedient, ungrateful, wicked, unfriendly, unapologetic, slanderers, restless, cruel, not loving kindness, traitors, arrogant, pompous, more voluptuous, rather than God-loving ”2 Timothy 3: 1-4.
    2. Weyland
      Weyland 9 May 2016 21: 59
      +2
      Quote: Dart2027
      but they are russian


      For example, Lev Gumilyov’s mother is a great Russian poetess from Kiev Anna Gorenko (better known under the nickname "Akhmatova"), EMNIP, did not write a single poem in "Ridnaya mov" wink
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 9 May 2016 22: 45
        +1
        As one famous publicist N. Starikov noted, when the most ardent Ukrainians are forgotten, they immediately begin to speak Russian.
  10. Grave With Cross 3
    Grave With Cross 3 9 May 2016 10: 15
    +2
    Someday all these oligarchs: both ours and them will die (or they will be helped to do this). It is they who drive a wedge of blood into a single Slavic people. And then again, these pictures will be relevant.
  11. Grave With Cross 3
    Grave With Cross 3 9 May 2016 10: 20
    +3
    And another video in the topic: Nikita Mikhalkov about those who pitted the Russian people. In particular, very frank statements that the Russians killed the Russians by Kolomoisky.
    1. 1536
      1536 9 May 2016 12: 56
      +3
      If this happens in the Urals, as N.S. Mikhalkov, then we must fight this! And today there is only one way to fight: by participating in elections and preventing these people from being dressed in togas, peacekeepers and fighters for the people's cause, from coming to power! We all know them by name, they don’t even hide in front of us and mock us, but we vote for them? Who chose these enemies in the Urals? Who drew the "Ural" money? Who publishes books that can educate Ivanov who do not remember their kinship? We must be vigilant. We will not have one country and the other! Once many of us lost our country - the USSR. The destruction of the Russian Federation must not be allowed to the delight of the scoundrels who fill their purse on the tears of the Russian people! In my opinion, looking at Mikhalokov, this began to reach a part of those in power in Russia. Maybe we need to support them today!
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    3. Grave With Cross 3
      Grave With Cross 3 9 May 2016 13: 42
      +1
      That's what Mikhalkov says in the video. Zionists rejoice that they have separated our people for 100 years ...
  12. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 9 May 2016 10: 20
    +9
    Mentally, inferior, drunk, destructive pig! All...
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 9 May 2016 11: 11
      +7
      Quote: Observer 33
      Mentally, inferior, drunk, destructive pig! All...
      1. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 9 May 2016 12: 47
        +4
        This one is prettier ... wink
        In general, I have nothing against pigs, that’s me in the literary sense. Simply, on a holiday he managed to insult all veterans, both ours and Ukrainian ... All ... He would have to fill his face angry
      2. HERMES
        HERMES 9 May 2016 13: 53
        +8
        Quote: Lukich
        Quote: Observer 33
        Mentally, inferior, drunk, destructive pig! All...


  13. Pitot
    Pitot 9 May 2016 10: 22
    +8
    The door is over. When will this spit slap? Bred fascists, chocolate scum ....
    1. HERMES
      HERMES 9 May 2016 17: 11
      +1
      Quote: Pitot
      The door is over.


      And on the other continent "smoked dvar" muddies the water ...
  14. Chulman
    Chulman 9 May 2016 10: 27
    +4
    From the same gruendelabr !!! !
  15. YarGa
    YarGa 9 May 2016 10: 30
    +15
    Only Poroshenko has no relation to Ukraine. Only as an occupier. Gauleiter.
    1. HERMES
      HERMES 9 May 2016 14: 00
      +2
      Quote: YarGa
      Only Poroshenko has no relation to Ukraine. Only as an occupier. Gauleiter.


      Unfortunately, today few people want to understand. They are ready to tear each other's throats. Forgetting that two people are brothers not by rank, but by blood. Forgetting that our ancestors fought shoulder to shoulder always, and forged victory SHOULDER to SHOULDER always.
  16. erased
    erased 9 May 2016 10: 34
    +3
    An indisputable fact - if Poros had a head, he would have long faded from Kiev. And the Soviet people won. What this gandolier forgot about.
  17. Thirteenth
    Thirteenth 9 May 2016 10: 38
    +4
    Ukraine is ruled by the HOMSE!
    1. HERMES
      HERMES 9 May 2016 14: 04
      0
      Quote: Thirteenth
      Ukraine is ruled by the HOMSE!


      Still fagot? Then he comes to you!
  18. Ezhaak
    Ezhaak 9 May 2016 10: 39
    +2
    Quote: NOTICE ABOUT BOY
    Amid such undeniable historical facts, have the audacity to claim that Russia would have won the war without Ukraine. Would not have won this war without the Ukrainians ...
    There would be no Ukrainians, there would be no one to fight with. Only Banderites resisted the Soviet army. Therefore, their descendants now "bark" at Russia.
  19. LukaSaraev
    LukaSaraev 9 May 2016 10: 40
    +8
    Sorry, moderators. But why is he needed here today? Tired of colic. You write about me, though I am a Jew whose Nazi shot one grandfather. another near Smolensk in a mass grave. But Ukraine, Yushchenko, Tymoshenko and this chwan ... well, they lifted up in kind. No one is interested in what he sculpts there.
  20. behemot
    behemot 9 May 2016 10: 42
    +9
    Ukrainians are like port whores, both ours and yours, heroically with the Soviet invaders, are fighting along with fascist friends, now without Ukrainians there would have been no victory over the fascists. We would have already decided which side to take. In short, the insignificance is vile, it would have drunk a lot of water and did not shine.
  21. SPACE
    SPACE 9 May 2016 10: 43
    +6
    Quote: Poroshenko
    “How can one, against the background of such undeniable historical facts, have the audacity to claim that Russia would have won the war without Ukraine?” Would not have won this war without the Ukrainians ... ",

    I wonder what kind of Ukrainians did he mean? Those animals from the UPA and SS Galichina who are honored as heroes in Ukraine today. Or cavaliers of the Order of Glory, World War II and the Star of the Hero with Ukrainian roots who broke the ridge of fascism and who today are forbidden by the invaders to go out on Victory Day, wear orders and flags of a non-existent country of the winner.
    Z.Y. Amazing metamorphoses occurred with people in the territory most affected by the fascist yoke. Ukrainians in the most terrible and blasphemous form betrayed the common world, their ancestors, forgot history and brought heaven’s punishment to their heads. Everyone had a choice and everyone made it, now the time has come for reckoning. This is the highest law of the universe.
  22. 3vs
    3vs 9 May 2016 10: 44
    +4
    Lampposts will wait someday ...
  23. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 9 May 2016 10: 47
    +3
    Goat greases!
  24. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 9 May 2016 10: 50
    +8
    Happy Victory Day. The most important thing that I want to wish all the forum users on this day is what our grandfathers fought for - peace be upon you! May there always be a clear sky and a bright sun above your head. I wish you Victory Day health, joy and happiness. Let victory accompany everywhere and always, let only good and sincere people be near. I wish that the heart does not know pain and longing, and in the soul always played a victorious march.
  25. Darth Revan
    Darth Revan 9 May 2016 10: 53
    +6
    How tired of all this x ... nya with 404! Even in the bud it was possible to strangle all this riffraff! What was stopping, please tell me? The opinion of the world community? Yes in the mouth of this community! am
  26. bolyasnikov evgenij
    bolyasnikov evgenij 9 May 2016 10: 53
    +3
    PETA you fucking ........ !!!!
  27. Yuriy Nikolayevich
    Yuriy Nikolayevich 9 May 2016 10: 53
    0
    Oh, Petya Petya.)))
  28. volodya
    volodya 9 May 2016 11: 02
    +4
    That's for sure. Especially his friends helped, Bandera, right up to 1959.
  29. skobars
    skobars 9 May 2016 11: 04
    +7
    So d and on t --- the SOVIET PEOPLE fought against fascism, and what does it have to do with its great warriors.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 9 May 2016 11: 21
      +2
      Quote: skobars
      So d and on t --- the SOVIET PEOPLE fought against fascism, and what does it have to do with its great warriors.

      And you? Do not know? Well it was the USSR that attacked the poor "real" western Ukraine, enslaved it, built schools, hospitals, and other occupation organizations. Now the "great Ukrainians" are suffering. it is impossible to paint everything.
  30. Yarik76
    Yarik76 9 May 2016 11: 04
    +2
    Pedro you are a stupid person!
  31. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 9 May 2016 11: 06
    +2
    Do not pour it anymore!
  32. NordUral
    NordUral 9 May 2016 11: 09
    +2
    Parsley! It’s time to stop raving already.
  33. Kibl
    Kibl 9 May 2016 11: 11
    +4
    Well, Petyunya cannot fail to blur out some kind of stupidity or disgusting holiday !!! Not in his character !!!
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 9 May 2016 11: 49
      +1
      So the black employer would otherwise kick him under the knee, and Petske will have nowhere to go when he smells of a wild boar.
  34. Ros 56
    Ros 56 9 May 2016 11: 12
    0
    Eh, men are good, don’t pour this jerk anymore, I gave a hoot for the whole parade of 0,35 vodkas, and this one, apparently without measure, who guarded him, the reprimand with entry into the jaw.
  35. vfqjh
    vfqjh 9 May 2016 11: 18
    +2
    I wonder if the Russians had not liberated Ukraine, where could he arrange this coven ??? Goat, he is a goat in Africa!
  36. sabakina
    sabakina 9 May 2016 11: 18
    +4
    Well, he already stole one "Victory", though so far in the form of M-20 (photo from the direct TV channel 112 ya below). I will not be surprised that in a year they will say that Russia hasn’t ever fought, because The Ukrainian front was (and not one), but there was no Russian, and the crest accepted the surrender ... wassat
    Screen of "stolen" Victory ".
  37. alean245
    alean245 9 May 2016 11: 18
    +2
    undeniable facts prove that Russia would not have triumphed over fascism without Ukraine

    Poproshenko said, exterminating a fair amount of dry, semi-dry and semi-sweet.
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 9 May 2016 11: 51
      +5
      Quote: alean245
      exterminating a fair amount of dry, semi-dry and semi-sweet.

  38. Mercenary
    Mercenary 9 May 2016 11: 20
    +2
    "Wouldn't have won this war without the Ukrainians"
    And who disputes? The people were alone, and if it had not been necessary to fight against Bandera, you look and the war ended a month earlier, and how many guys were alive.
  39. mr.fafes
    mr.fafes 9 May 2016 11: 21
    +11
    Ukraine, and to be more precise, OKRAINE, is not up to the state that the limitroph has existed in this world for only 16 years.
    Poroshenko completely beguiled fantasies with reality.
    What are the merits of the Ukrainian quasi-state if such a state did not exist then.
    Merits of Ukrainians yes !!! There is no state !!!
    Judging by the fact that these are not up to people create in Ukraine and with their people, this fascist pack of wild dogs are descendants of those
    Bendery fascists who licked the feet of Hitler and destroyed their people for the glory of the Reich.
    1. razmik72
      razmik72 9 May 2016 11: 49
      0
      [quote = mr.fafes] Ukraine, and more precisely OKRAINE, it’s not up to the state that the limitroph has existed in this world for only 16 years.
      Poroshenko completely beguiled fantasies with reality.


      I did not want to get into a dispute between Russians and Ukrainians, but your statement about the statehood of Ukrainians with a time span of 16 years does not stand up to criticism, because Russian statehood began with Kievan Rus, in Soviet times they thoroughly studied history
      1. Aleksandr1959
        Aleksandr1959 9 May 2016 12: 46
        +5
        in Soviet times, history was studied thoroughly


        Nikolai Kostomarov in the book "Bogdan Khmelnitsky" (p. 17) quotes a letter (wagon) of Sigismund Augustus to the Zaporozhye Cossacks:

        "We inquired that you, having arbitrarily left our Ukrainian castles and cities, live on the Niz, along the Dnieper in the fields and at other entrances, and cause harm and plunder to the subjects of the Turkish king, ... (........ .) ... We order you to return to our castles and cities, from the field, from the Bottom, and from all the entrances ... (....) ... if someone does not obey our real order, then our Ukrainian elders will mete severe punishment. "

        ================ 1568 year.

        From this letter it follows that Ukraine was called Ukraine = Poles, moreover, it was Polish Ukraine (with a small letter)


        Before the revolution, the Russian nation was united, and the names “Great Russia”, “Little Russia”, “Belarus” were perceived as concepts defining geographical place of origin one or another Russian citizen of the Russian Empire. National separatists, on the other hand, assign ethnographic meanings to them, going against the historical reality of their origin.
      2. Dart2027
        Dart2027 9 May 2016 12: 56
        +2
        Quote: razmik72
        but your statement about the statehood of Ukrainians with a period of 16 years does not stand up to criticism, because Russian statehood began with Kievan Rus

        I wonder how the fact that the capital of Rus was in Kiev for some time speaks of some kind of "statehood of the Ukrainians"? Russia is Russia, and to say that what has now become Ukraine was part of Russia is to confirm the fact that there has never been any nation-state there and these are Russian territories.
        1. Aleksandr1959
          Aleksandr1959 9 May 2016 13: 05
          0
          There were two centers of Russian statehood. Kievan Rus and ... Moscow principality.
          The Principality of Moscow remains. And it became a real center of Russian statehood

          and to say that what has now become Ukraine was part of Russia - this means confirming the fact that no nation-state has ever been there and that is Russian territory.

          Absolutely right.
          I will repeat a little.
          Before the revolution, the Russian nation was united, and the names “Great Russia”, “Little Russia”, “Belarus” were perceived as concepts defining the geographical place of origin of one or another Russian citizen of the Russian Empire. National separatists, on the other hand, assign ethnographic meanings to them, going against the historical reality of their origin.
          1. razmik72
            razmik72 9 May 2016 13: 59
            +5
            I would be glad if there were the same number of Armenians in the world as Russians, even if divided into Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Transnistria, and I would never raise a weapon on my brother, as you do now. seemingly innocent articles about Belarus and its president, as if by chance a thought is put into the reader’s head that the old man wants only to milk Russia. Such custom-made articles lead not only to the unification of the once united ethnic group, but even worse, they cause enmity and hatred.
          2. Dart2027
            Dart2027 9 May 2016 14: 08
            +2
            Quote: Aleksandr1959
            There were two centers of Russian statehood. Kievan Rus and ... Moscow principality.

            The principality of Moscow could not physically be a rival to Kievan Rus, because at the time when Kiev was the capital, Moscow was a small town that did not play any role. Her elevation began after Kiev finally lost its position.
            1. razmik72
              razmik72 9 May 2016 14: 32
              +1
              Quote: Dart2027
              Quote: Aleksandr1959
              There were two centers of Russian statehood. Kievan Rus and ... Moscow principality.

              The principality of Moscow could not physically be a rival to Kievan Rus, because at the time when Kiev was the capital, Moscow was a small town that did not play any role. Her elevation began after Kiev finally lost its position.

              It is not necessary that one ethnic group lives within the same state, but enmity and civil strife within an ethnic group separated by history is deadly, in a difficult year, Russians and Ukrainians should come to the rescue, first of all, not Uzbeks and Armenians, seeing your swarms, other countries and peoples will beware to support Russia at a crucial moment in history. To taftology lovers I’ll say that the army and navy do not always solve problems, there should be a twin brother next to which you can lean.
  40. gur4enk
    gur4enk 9 May 2016 11: 25
    +5
    What can I say -! SOVIET PEOPLE won, and Ukraine is its integral part. Glory to the victorious warriors! Death to the fascists and their minions!
  41. kostya-petrov
    kostya-petrov 9 May 2016 11: 27
    +6
    What the fuck Ukraine in 1941-45 years? Then there was one state - the Soviet Union! The war was then won by the Soviet people, and not by individual socialist republics.
    Ukraine in those years, as a separate state was not considered. There was then the Ukrainian SSR, which was part of the USSR.
    But Poroshenko does not understand this.
  42. akula
    akula 9 May 2016 11: 28
    +3
    Quote: erased
    An indisputable fact - if Poros had a head, he would have long faded from Kiev. And the Soviet people won. What this gandolier forgot about.

    He didn’t forget anything, he just wanted to eat a fish and a stake, but the price was too high and there is no turning back now for him, so he drinks, then there are still remnants of conscience. Our oligarchs are no better, you might think great patriots, they’ll surrender the people for a penny in which case, if not yet surrendered.
  43. parafoiler
    parafoiler 9 May 2016 11: 28
    +1
    But only fascism managed to bite Ukraine and mortally infect it with itself ...
  44. kolobok63
    kolobok63 9 May 2016 11: 28
    +1
    Friends, the great Ukrainians dug up the sea, built a great wall (Chinese), betrayed everyone who can be, what else is needed for a break? Every fourth crest in the war was a policeman! And this drunkard or not frightened or pid ..st! hi
  45. roman72-452
    roman72-452 9 May 2016 11: 37
    +2
    The facts prove only one thing, there was no Ukraine, there was the Soviet Red Army and there was the Bandera rabble of the OUN UPA and other scum with which the Red Army fought and which won. Happy Victory Day !!!
  46. mamont5
    mamont5 9 May 2016 11: 39
    +1
    Again, Piggy got licked. Well, how much can you? Don’t pour him anymore, Poros will answer the tribunal, and he’ll suck ... I understand that it’s scary, but ... you have to endure and wait. Soon already in the camera.
  47. VeteranVS
    VeteranVS 9 May 2016 11: 42
    +2
    "without Ukraine ..", which on 22.06 41 did not exist independently, in any form (the Ukrainian SSR was a part of the USSR), and the Ukrainians who fought against the Nazis, like the rest of the peoples of the USSR ... what is the connection? remember the school, the history textbook, the structure of the USSR (since 1922).
  48. Yak-15
    Yak-15 9 May 2016 11: 44
    0
    Waltzman! Well, you can’t eat so much vodka! This is bad manners.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 9 May 2016 11: 56
      +1
      Quote: YAK-15
      Waltzman! Well, you can’t eat so much vodka! This is bad manners.

      Well hello! Petya called personally - "in each house - a moonshine still!" They say for sugrevu (there is no gas) and beneficial for health, prevention of influenza (we also have no medicine). and who said there is not a lot of vodka, there is not enough snacks? That's it, there are practically no snacks left, and the one that is - hefty expensive. Here is Petya and tasting moonshine in every hut. wassat
  49. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 9 May 2016 11: 46
    +2
    In the Great Patriotic War, the Great Soviet People defeated. And the point.
    1. sako911
      sako911 9 May 2016 17: 19
      +2
      It was said correctly that there was no Russia and Ukraine, but there were the RSSR and the USSR.
      1. svp67
        svp67 9 May 2016 17: 56
        0
        Quote: sako911
        It was said correctly that there was no Russia and Ukraine, but there were the RSSR and the USSR.

        It was not not any RSSR, but the RSFSR was part of the USSR. How short is human memory ...
      2. naraevskij1957
        naraevskij1957 10 May 2016 18: 58
        0
        open the map of 1913. You will envy.
    2. naraevskij1957
      naraevskij1957 10 May 2016 18: 56
      0
      SANYA, YOU ARE 1000 RIGHT. Because in the SOVIET PEOPLE, if my memory serves me, 189 nations and nationalities. AND ALL should be respected, because each has its own order and customs.
  50. Furious bambr
    Furious bambr 9 May 2016 11: 47
    +2
    An indisputable fact: the booze didn’t bring anyone to good fool
    1. RUSIVAN
      RUSIVAN 9 May 2016 13: 13
      +4
      I agree ... probably every day squirrels go to Poroshenko, and with whole families.