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Crimea has been a part of Russia for two years now - it's time to lift sanctions (Cato Institute, USA)

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Two years ago, Russia seized the Crimea from Ukraine. After that, the Western Allies imposed economic sanctions, but their impact was insignificant. No one believes that the Crimea, the former six decades ago, the Russian peninsula, intends to return to Ukraine.

Nevertheless, the European Union called on other countries to join an ineffective boycott. However, most states refrained from participating in this conflict. They are not going to declare an economic war of a faraway nation that has done nothing wrong to them.

Although Washington, which has less commercial interests, continues to be among the most zealous supporters of sanctions, Europe is divided on this issue. Opposition arose with regard to the routine extension in July of restrictions relating to the Russian banking system, the energy and military industries. Cyprus, Greece, Hungary and Italy are particularly skeptical about the ongoing economic war.

Supporters of sanctions insist that Russia more fully comply with the provisions of the Minsk agreements and cease to support the separatists in the east of Ukraine. “Today, Russia faces a choice: the continuation of damaging economic sanctions or the full implementation of the provisions of the Minsk agreements,” said Secretary of State John Kerry.

However, the intensity of the armed conflict has decreased, a political crisis is in full swing in Kiev, and some Ukrainians are not sure that they want the separatists to return. And, indeed, Oksana Syroyed, vice-speaker of the Ukrainian Rada, blocked the passage of a constitutional amendment that provides autonomy to Donbas. “We need to stop thinking about how to resist Putin or how to please all our partners,” she said.

Brussels may face an unpleasant situation - Russia fulfills its obligations, while Ukraine violates the terms of the deal. “Both parties must comply with the agreement,” complained German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier.

Targeted sanctions against individuals and corporations have a certain appeal. However, there is little evidence that they are more effective than larger measures.

The latter turned out to be painful for the Russians, but they did not turn them against the government. Moreover, Western penalties slowed or even reversed the liberalization of the Russian economy, as business became even more dependent on government support.

The belief that the extension of sanctions for a short period will force Moscow to capitulate indicates the triumph of hope over experience. Instead of reflexively continuing the sanctions, Western states should reconsider their policy towards Russia.

Vladimir Putin is not a pleasant guy, but in this sense he is not much different from other authoritarian rulers. In geopolitical terms, Ukraine means significantly more for Moscow than for Europe or for America. Russia will always spend more money and risk more in order to protect its security interests at its borders. And the West has done a lot to challenge Moscow, including encouraging a street uprising against a democratically elected president. This does not justify rude actions on the part of Russia aimed at dismembering its neighbor, however Putin acted predictably and rationally. He is not a revived Hitler and not a revived Stalin - he is a traditional king. Putin has never demonstrated a desire to devour non-Russian peoples.

Therefore, as I noted in Forbes magazine, “Allies should discuss a way out of the sanctions framework in which they are stuck. They can abandon the economic war, promise to stop the expansion of NATO and its approach to the Russian borders (the most important thing is not to include Ukraine), reduce the military support of Kiev and encourage Ukraine to look both ways economically.

Moscow could stop supporting Ukrainian separatists, it could cooperate in restructuring Kiev’s overwhelming debts, accept Ukraine’s economic ties with the European Union, hold a referendum on the status of Crimea internationally and accept any result from the chaotic Ukrainian political system. ”

Kiev, of course, is independent and free to decide its own future. However, Ukrainians must choose their own path, fully aware that no one in the West is ready to start a full-scale economic war, not to mention a military conflict, with a nuclear weapons Russia because of the status of Kiev.

The United States and Europe, determining their policy towards Russia, should not forget that the best is the enemy of the good. Economic sanctions mainly act as a moral statement, but other means are more suitable for this.

At the same time, there are many important issues in which the West can benefit from Russian assistance. Two years have passed, and it is time to make a deal with Moscow.
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  1. A-Sim
    A-Sim 10 May 2016 12: 38
    +48
    "Crimea, which was a Russian city six decades ago .."

    "Well, what to talk about with you?
    All the same, you will crap nonsense. "(V.S. Vysotsky)


    "It's been two years and it's time to make a deal with Moscow." - the essence of the article.
    1. herruvim
      herruvim 10 May 2016 12: 45
      +27
      The opinion of one of the employees of Blackwater about the combat effectiveness of different countries. Blackwater ("Black Water") is an American security company (private military company), founded in 1997 by Eric Prince and Al Clark.

      1. African tribes.
      It’s not even interesting to fight them. They shoot randomly, they don’t know about targeted shooting. Often they spar into the ground under their feet. It’s a common thing to get into one’s own. Run to the sides after several casualties or a shot from the tank.
      Rating - meat.
      2. African regulars.
      They differ from their wild counterparts only in the presence of uniforms and modest skills of aimed shooting. Fighting against savages, but a clash with a more skilled opponent, even the Arabs, leads them to panic and flight. Act in harmony with armored vehicles do not know how, in principle.
      Rating - meat in the package.
      3. Arabs.
      Mercenaries, rebels, many regulars ... The concepts of tactics and strategies for them are as far away as frost for an African. Their war is to shoot cartridges of ammunition towards the enemy, while calling in the bar and periodically blowing themselves up with everything that comes into the genus of the hand. However, the latter does not apply to regulars, they are relatively silent and disciplined, they know how to use grenades.
      Rating is a convenient target.
      4. American regulars.
      How many films were made about the invincible American army ... There is only one BUT. The Yankees absolutely do not know how to fight without artillery training, tanks and airstrikes. If the territory has not been scorched to a state of a deserted desert, the soldiers will not go there. And if they go, then they don’t come back. They shoot very well, perfectly coordinated, but they are shy in front of any resistance. Then they become easy prey. Losses are going through hard, up to a complete loss of combat effectiveness. Underpants.
      Rating - biting dogs.
      1. herruvim
        herruvim 10 May 2016 12: 46
        +66
        5. American mercenaries.
        Nice fighters. They are able to act both as a team and alone, beautiful arrows. There are desperate individuals with whom it is sometimes difficult to cope. But they have a very weak point - morality. And the lack of motivation, except money. The corpse does not need money, so most of them do not go where it is very hot, and, accordingly, in every possible way avoid the first line of fire.
        Dogs of war, if evaluated.
        6. Asians.
        I did not encounter regulars. Mercenaries are capable of delivering an excruciating headache to any enemy. If acting as a group. What is in their head is unclear, but they are capable of any recklessness. They shoot beautifully, often act from an ambush into which the enemy falls according to a cunning plan. Asians do not give a damn about the support of equipment, aircraft and shells. They do not care if there are cartridges or not. The main thing is the presence of brothers. But alone, alas, they become useless.
        Rating - the army of the emperor.
        7. Caucasians and Afghans.
        Strong warriors. Fine arrows. Hardy, brave.
        They know how to act in groups, alone, motivated and insidious. In battle, they act competently, they know how to tactics and strategy. They are not afraid of equipment and airstrikes, they act effectively from ambushes.
        They have the only weak point - they are unable to fight to the last breath, a rare fighter is able to sacrifice himself for the sake of a common victory. Unless he is a martyr, but that’s a completely different story ...
        Rating - real fighters.
        8. Russians.
        To counteract a platoon of Russian mercenaries - a fierce, bloody piz ... ec. They fight to the end, to the last bullet, and when the ammunition runs out - they use everything that is at hand. Mortally wounded a Russian? Do not touch it, most likely before death - he clamped a grenade without a check. Russians are inventive, have great intuition. And ... spit on everything. Has the plane arrived? It’s okay, they’ll knock down a sapper blade. Tank? It's okay if your hands are not broken. Fighters who have never held SVD at a critical moment are able to get out of it at the limit of range. Was this the last cartridge? They will beat the enemy with the rifle itself. Tactics and strategy? Easy! Any composition, from the army to the half-dead cripple, holding alone the company of the enemy. Russians, even mercenaries, are unable to retreat. And if you retreat - be sure, they just run after the cartridges.
        Rating - Warriors.
        1. CORNET
          CORNET 10 May 2016 12: 53
          +6
          We need Kiev .... And then you can cancel your sanctions if there is such an unbearable desire.))))
          1. cniza
            cniza 10 May 2016 13: 05
            +31
            There would be no Crimea, they would have found another excuse to impose sanctions and they will not be canceled when.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 10 May 2016 13: 09
              +7
              Something some kind of mishmash in the author's head! The impression is that as if he does not care, as before, he wants to get into the "Christmas tree" (sanctions), and at the same time not to rip off his "ass" (his economy). Well, why climb the "Christmas tree"? Moreover, on someone else's initiative! Moreover, the "Christmas tree" is not a place for a normal life! The author has no intelligible answer. Spinning around the bush.
              Such people in geopolitics are sent away so that they do not get confused under their feet.
              1. Douel
                Douel 12 May 2016 00: 51
                0
                Why is there a mess? Everything is quite logical. You hand over the Crimea to us. Hand over Putin and go into the shade yourself leaving your original territories under the robbery by us - White Elves.
                All this fits into their logic, primitive and hypocritical.
            2. nadezhiva
              nadezhiva 10 May 2016 15: 37
              +3
              Yes, to hell with them, with sanctions, stay cool.
              Ukrainians have a new petition. https://petition.president.gov.ua/petition/23260
              For turning Crimea into an island, for "creating problems for the aggressor." Already 11 signers.
              Now it is necessary to make every effort to tighten the blockade of the occupied territory. Namely, to fence off the Crimean peninsula from the mainland using an artificial channel across the isthmus. The peninsula will thus become an island, which will cause many problems to the occupation authorities.
              Despite some inconvenience in the future, when Crimea returns to Ukraine, this channel can be used for fast sea links between the Sea of ​​Azov and the Black Sea, which will open access to the world ocean for vessels serving the port of Mariupol bypassing the Kerch Strait. Anschluss of this kind should have serious consequences for the Russian authorities and a similar measure, although radical, but fair. Land access to the mainland is an unforgivable luxury that we cannot provide to the aggressor.
              Also, the presence of an artificial channel eliminates the supply of fresh water to an unhindered flow of goods to the occupiers and collaborators.
              Ukraine should show extreme rigidity and begin to dictate its conditions in the region.
              After the restoration of legal Ukrainian authority on the island, a bridge should be built with funds received from the Russian budget in the form of reparations.
            3. Bochik
              Bochik 11 May 2016 01: 23
              0
              Quote: cniza
              There would be no Crimea, they would have found another excuse to impose sanctions and they will not be canceled when.

              They will always come up with a reason. Over in 2014, the Sochi Olympics were threatened by a boycott due to anti (3,14) Dorsky law. Such a howl was raised ... How: Russia decided to protect children from homosexuals! Undemocratic! Not European! So, it wouldn’t be the Crimea so Karabakh or Transnistria.
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          3. alex-defensor
            alex-defensor 10 May 2016 23: 38
            0
            YES EXACTLY!
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        3. bulvas
          bulvas 10 May 2016 13: 51
          +6
          Quote: herruvim
          8. Russians. To oppose a platoon of Russian mercenaries is a fierce, bloody piz ... es. They fight to the end, to the last bullet, and when the ammunition runs out - they use everything that is at hand. Mortally wounded a Russian? Do not touch it, most likely before death - he clamped a grenade without a check. Russians are inventive, have great intuition. And ... spit on everything. Has the plane arrived? It’s okay, they’ll knock down a sapper blade. Tank? It's okay if your hands are not broken. Fighters who have never held SVD at a critical moment are able to get out of it at the limit of range. Was this the last cartridge? They will beat the enemy with the rifle itself. Tactics and strategy? Easy! By any composition, from the army to the half-dead cripple, holding alone the company of the enemy. Russians, even mercenaries, are unable to retreat. And if they retreat, be sure they just run after the cartridges. Rating - Warriors.


          The author of the rating may not have seen "The Dawns Here Are Quiet", but formulated it quite similarly, although he did not go further than mercenaries (not surprisingly, mercenaries for him are the top of the hierarchy of military professionals)

          1. wasjasibirjac
            wasjasibirjac 10 May 2016 16: 38
            +5
            Quote: bulvas
            , mercenaries for him - the top of the hierarchy of military professionals)
            and where he encounters Russian regular troops, he has no experience.
            1. Lekov L
              Lekov L 10 May 2016 22: 42
              +4
              and where he encounters Russian regular troops, he has no experience.

              Those who have such experience do not write this ...
              They do not write at all.
              Nothing .. Pisalka wink does not work well.
              Ask the Germans.
              Happy Holidays!
        4. bumbarash
          bumbarash 10 May 2016 17: 10
          +1
          where to get a link to the source?
          1. Dry_T-50
            Dry_T-50 10 May 2016 19: 36
            0
            I support. And what does the "army of the emperor" mean?
            1. Manul
              Manul 10 May 2016 21: 01
              0
              Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
              .And what does the "army of the emperor" mean?

              Have you tried reading all kinds of books? Quite understandable identification. What course are you studying in?
          2. Manul
            Manul 10 May 2016 20: 43
            0
            Quote: bumbarash
            where to get a link to the source?

            Your ernichanie is appropriate, maybe ours wrote. Only here is one caveat .. You do not care for the truth, but for the fact that Russian life does not seem to be honey. And in the text, everything is true. And there is. So do not blame me - minus.
            1. bulvas
              bulvas 10 May 2016 20: 50
              +3
              Quote: bumbarash
              where to get a link to the source?



              Is there anything wrong with this rating (I'm talking about Russian soldiers)?

              Read the history of wars, read books of contemporaries from different eras, memoirs, books about Russian military commanders and naval commanders - here you will be the primary sources

        5. Evgen999
          Evgen999 10 May 2016 21: 21
          +1
          The opinion of one of the Blackwater employees about the combat effectiveness of different countries. Blackwater, invented by a Russian schoolboy.

          PS damn, that's when all sorts of funny laudatory fables are written on behalf of the Americans, this does not inspire, rather depressing.


          But this I would like to see at least once in my life: "Fighters who have never held an SVD, at a critical moment are able to get out of it at the limit of range."
      2. Amurets
        Amurets 10 May 2016 12: 57
        +3
        Quote: herruvim
        The opinion of one of the employees of Blackwater about the combat effectiveness of different countries. Blackwater ("Black Water") is an American security company (private military company), founded in 1997 by Eric Prince and Al Clark.

        Very interesting opinion. Thank you for posting.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 10 May 2016 13: 15
      +13
      If we do not take into account that the deposits of the population were "degreased" by half, and the prices rose by the same amount, then we can assume that the sanctions did not affect us and the fall in oil prices had nothing to do with it. And what else to expect if our Central Bank is only engaged in currency speculation. Traders unanimously say that even if the price of oil rises to $ 100 per barrel, the current prices will still not go down. Siluanov makes jokes about the salaries of officials, they say, in this buzz, they are not expected to increase. But after all, not even a year and a half had passed when they for themselves and the deputies doubled it (and this is not 300 re as pensioners)! They certainly have not lost anything from the sanctions. And then the news was thrown. For 2229 (including officials and deputies), they posted lists of how they took out currency from the Russian Federation to Panamanian offshores. Everything is wonderful, life is wonderful! laughing
      1. your1970
        your1970 10 May 2016 15: 04
        +2
        This is where and when the officials of the salary were doubled ?????? please clarify, maybe the ministers / deputies ??? and then something in my pocket as it was 16900-it is, even indexing on 4% and then froze on 3, now you can see the leftovers cut ....
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 10 May 2016 16: 58
          +3
          Quote: your1970
          This is where and when z / p officials were doubled ?????? please clarify, maybe ministers / deputies ??? and then something in my pocket as it was 16900, it is, even indexing by 4% and then froze for 3 years, now you can see the leftovers cut ..

          request Well, Duc deputies raised themselves up, caught up to 500 thousand and refused 10 percent, the crisis says - it’s uncultured to eat bread with black caviar in a 2 cm layer on the buters, now they’ll put 1,5 each laughing . For such a sn, they must produce uranium in mines or majfons, super-sophisticated Russians manually collect 5 pieces a day for each.
          1. your1970
            your1970 10 May 2016 18: 03
            +2
            therefore, he always called: if you are talking about officials - always ask about which ones (minister / deputy / governor or expert expert level), otherwise it’s not good - for your pockets, you’ll think that there’s an increase of 2 times repeat repeat belay
        2. sherp2015
          sherp2015 10 May 2016 22: 27
          +1
          Quote: your1970
          This is where and when officials z / p doubled ?????? please specify, maybe ministers / deputies ???

          Why are you so excited?
          The conversation was about payments to deputies
          1. your1970
            your1970 11 May 2016 09: 22
            0
            The conversation was about OFFICERS and deputies ..
      2. Manul
        Manul 10 May 2016 20: 53
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        If we do not consider that the deposits of the population were "defatted" by half, and prices rose by the same amount, then we can assume that the sanctions did not affect us and the fall in oil prices had nothing to do with it. And what else to expect if our Central Bank is only engaged in currency speculation.

        I have disagreements with you, but I absolutely agree here. I am for the truth. I am ready to endure any deprivation, but I do not consider it shameful to turn a blind eye to the obvious. There really are problems. But they are solvable and portable. Do not forget about this either. You don’t offer to give Crimea back? I assure you that even in this case, sanctions will not be lifted. This is war.
    3. Patriot 1
      Patriot 1 10 May 2016 13: 50
      +5
      And there are also cities like Transnistria, Abkhazia, South Ossetia ... Geographers, damn it ... laughing
      1. nick_826
        nick_826 10 May 2016 14: 59
        +4
        If you sufficiently know English, then read the source, everything is written there normally (just an illiterate translator).
        1. reservist
          reservist 10 May 2016 15: 28
          +4
          In the original
          Two years ago Russia detached Crimea from Ukraine. Since then the Western allies have imposed economic sanctions, but to little effect. No one believes Crimea, Russian until six decades ago, is going back to Ukraine.

          http://www.cato.org/blog/crimea-after-two-years-part-russia-time-drop-sanctions

          and in translation the word "city" appears from somewhere ...
          Two years ago, Russia tore Crimea from Ukraine. After that, the Western Allies imposed economic sanctions, but their impact was not significant. Nobody believes that the Crimea, which was still Russian six decades ago the city, intends to return to Ukraine.
          1. Manul
            Manul 10 May 2016 21: 09
            0
            Quote: reservist
            and in translation the word "city" appears from somewhere ...

            So what? Edit-adjust translation is not fate?
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    5. SPACE
      SPACE 10 May 2016 13: 50
      +5
      Quote: A-Sim
      Two years have passed and it's time to make a deal with Moscow. "- the quintessence of the article.

      May be so. After all, this is chess, their Elite versus Nashi, their move broke into Ukraine, in response, Nashi took Crimea. Their next move, already descends to a rash reflex in the absence of time, according to the stupid plan of Bradovy Pole, these are sanctions, in response they were deprived of the basis of the energy sector of Ukraine, Donbass. What's next? ))) for Russia, Crimea and Donbas are eternal real matter, and for our joy they will have to endlessly feed Ukraine and sanctions are just temporary and useless dust, in the context of globalization. And if you know in advance the mentality of the "new" Ukrainian rulers, who are all around, like Midas, ready to turn everything into hafno, then what about the West? Wait, they still crawl to persuade the Kremlin to take Ukraine in absolutely any form! Here is such a HPP tongue Do not believe? Look, look further! laughing
    6. Roman 11
      Roman 11 10 May 2016 14: 20
      +7
      Quote: A-Sim
      Two years passed, and it's time to make a deal with Moscow

      No need, after 2 years we will stop importing meat, and there will be 80 tanks of oil, we will implement projects (2018 World Cup, build a bridge to the Crimea, partially rearm the army, etc.), lower taxes and reduce oil and gas exports more.
    7. 1976AG
      1976AG 10 May 2016 14: 20
      +9
      But didn’t there international observers in the Crimean referendum of 2014? There were. And they even confirmed that everything went without violations, pressure on the population. I just didn’t like the results of the expression of will, so they pretend as if there was nothing. If the Crimeans spoke out against Russia, well ... who would forget about this referendum and would not dispute its results. So let all these righteous people go through the forest. The DPRK all the time lives in isolation and it did not collapse, but we are still not the DPRK.
      1. wasjasibirjac
        wasjasibirjac 10 May 2016 16: 43
        +3
        Quote: 1976AG
        But didn’t there international observers in the Crimean referendum of 2014? There were.

        in the opinion of the State Department and others like him, they were the wrong observers; they incorrectly observed. (pronounced in the voice of Winnie the Pooh) laughing
      2. Manul
        Manul 10 May 2016 21: 11
        0
        Quote: 1976AG
        The DPRK all the time lives in isolation and it did not collapse, but we are still not the DPRK.

        I support your entire comment, only I do not consider it appropriate to use the declared by some countries boycottas "isolation" hi .
    8. nick_826
      nick_826 10 May 2016 15: 00
      0
      If you sufficiently know English, then read the source, everything is written there normally (just an illiterate translator).
    9. GSH-18
      GSH-18 12 May 2016 16: 33
      0
      hold international referendum on the status of Crimea

      When you were invited to the Crimean referendum, the official delegation did not come from the OSCE. And now the Adios Amigo. To show is too much honor. Yes, and no sense. The train left. CRIMEA OUR! good
      Ukrainians must choose their own path, fully aware that no one in the West is ready to start a full-fledged economic war, not to mention the military conflict with Russia possessing nuclear weapons over the status of Kiev.

      Pans with Bendera are not capable of mental thinking. A stream of dirty deza from Ukrosmi washed the last signs of sanity. You can only change the situation in the Banderstad from above. That is, the change of president and government to normal and sane.
  2. Teberii
    Teberii 10 May 2016 12: 48
    -3
    Europe cannot stand it for many 70 years; it has built relationships with us. To take and trample everything.
    1. Manul
      Manul 10 May 2016 21: 15
      0
      Quote: Teberii
      Europe cannot stand it for many 70 years; it has built relationships with us. To take and trample everything.

      In your direction (tsvetkov1274) twisted a finger at the temple. I join.
  3. tsvetkov1274
    tsvetkov1274 10 May 2016 12: 48
    +1
    Actually 25 .. fool
    1. RBLip
      RBLip 10 May 2016 12: 58
      +2
      Quote: tsvetkov1274
      Actually 25 ..

      it’s not very clear, but if we are talking about 60, then, apparently, the author was referring to the transfer of Crimea from the RSFSR to the Ukrainian SSR, which occurred during the corn flake.
      1. Teberii
        Teberii 11 May 2016 04: 31
        0
        What are you writing? It's not about Crimea, but about sanctions.
  4. engineer74
    engineer74 10 May 2016 12: 48
    +21
    ... hold international referendum on the status of Crimea and agree with any result,

    Crimea passed stage! Let's hold a referendum in Odessa!
    1. Roman 11
      Roman 11 10 May 2016 14: 35
      +3
      Quote: engineer74
      Crimea passed stage! Let's hold a referendum in Odessa!

      Before holding a referendum, it is necessary to get by land ......

      Otherwise, a bridge will be built from Crimea to Odessa for 10 years laughing
  5. fridge
    fridge 10 May 2016 12: 52
    +13
    Crimea has always been Russia, and it began when many smelly countries were not on the map at all, both across the ocean and nearby. laughing
    1. reservist
      reservist 10 May 2016 14: 04
      +7
      Quote: refrigerator
      Crimea has always been Russia ...

      Well, about "always" you gave it a blunder, but from Ekaterina to Khrushchev there was ...
  6. Koronik
    Koronik 10 May 2016 12: 53
    +14
    "Moscow could stop supporting Ukrainian separatists, it could cooperate in restructuring Kiev's overwhelming debts."
    In what, what is expected from Russia, and can forgive all debts and Ukrainians and the EU? From a dead donkey's ears are our dear "partners".
  7. cheap trick
    cheap trick 10 May 2016 13: 04
    -2
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=117&v=b-yxdC2INWw
    in Lviv, the police threw firewood to the nationalists.
  8. vikmar64
    vikmar64 10 May 2016 13: 10
    +2
    "hold a referendum on the status of Crimea under international monitoring and agree with any result"

    Only if the Crimeans themselves express such a desire. If not, then the West will have to come to terms with the already expressed desire of the inhabitants of Crimea to be part of Russia.
  9. Nasty
    Nasty 10 May 2016 13: 11
    +5
    Unfortunately, the West bit the bit, preparing for war. And already by quiet glanders are anti-Russian sentiments of the former republics of the former USSR. Kazakhstan is in NATO! That sounds!
  10. cheap trick
    cheap trick 10 May 2016 13: 11
    +1
    http://x-true.info/37267-v-godovschinu-tragedii-2-maya-odessity-izbili-svidomogo
    -za-vykriki-slava-ukraine.html
    and then they gave wood to a freak in Odessa.
  11. t118an
    t118an 10 May 2016 13: 15
    +2
    Obama could not invent anything more stupid than sanctions.
    Well, if after the war Russia was able to create nuclear weapons - how can one think that Russia will capitulate to sanctions?
  12. soroKING
    soroKING 10 May 2016 13: 20
    +2
    Quote: Amurets
    Quote: herruvim
    The opinion of one of the employees of Blackwater about the combat effectiveness of different countries. Blackwater ("Black Water") is an American security company (private military company), founded in 1997 by Eric Prince and Al Clark.

    Very interesting opinion. Thank you for posting.

    this opinion a couple of years ... soldier
    there was still a postscript that Russian recruits after almost a singing battle became regulars
  13. Flinky
    Flinky 10 May 2016 13: 20
    +2
    No, really. Died, so died.
  14. fzr1000
    fzr1000 10 May 2016 13: 21
    +2
    They make information stuffing, probe the soil. The West is so predictable.
  15. Donlomakin
    Donlomakin 10 May 2016 13: 25
    +4
    After the 1917 revolution, how many years did not recognize Soviet Russia? And then they reconciled and began to trade. Commercial interests were above. Well, here the story repeats itself.
  16. drags33
    drags33 10 May 2016 13: 26
    +15
    I was always interested and amused by the absurdity of the proposal "to transfer / return Crimea to the Durkaine" ... How do the Western "leaders" see this? One fine day, Crimeans will wake up and hear / read: "That's it, Crimea is being passed on to Durkaine. We got excited here in Russia in 2014 ..." So what? But the people and the land of Crimea are not a chair that can be passed on to a neighbor !!! Crimeans, someone from the Westerners asked ??? That's where we need to start! And the opinion of the Crimeans on this issue has long been known ... So all these talks "about the transfer / return of Crimea" are empty talk that has no grounds.
  17. Zomanus
    Zomanus 10 May 2016 13: 30
    +8
    The article is not written for us, we need to understand this.
    And with such articles, Americans are led to
    that it’s time to leave Ukraine and consolidate the current status of Crimea as part of Russia.
  18. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 10 May 2016 13: 31
    +6
    Although Washington, which has fewer commercial interests, remains among the most ardent supporters of sanctions, Europe is divided on this issue.
    Just do not be cunning. There are interests, there are, and even what!
    Supporters of sanctions insist that Russia more fully implement the provisions of the Minsk agreements
    But how much can you tell you that we are not signatories of the Minsk agreements! Repeat again, for the gifted?
    Moscow could stop supporting Ukrainian separatists, it could cooperate in the restructuring of Kiev’s overwhelming debts,
    In the list of those who restructured the Kiev debt, Moscow will be the last. Perhaps it will be.
    Kiev, of course, is independent and free to decide its own future.
    The independence and freedom of Kiev is determined by the length of the American leash. Any objections? Justify.
    However, Ukrainians must choose their own path, fully aware that no one in the West is ready to start a full-fledged economic war, not to mention the military conflict with Russia possessing nuclear weapons over the status of Kiev.
    And here there is a grain of truth.
    Two years have passed, and it's time to make a deal with Moscow.
    Do you even understand what you've done? No deals! Complete lifting of sanctions and payment of indemnity to us. This is some kind of clowning on paper performed by "Written by Doug Bandow (Douglas" Doug "Bandow)"
  19. shcishcok
    shcishcok 10 May 2016 13: 51
    +7
    Dougou Bandou: 1 / Crimea Russia did not reject, but according to the results of the popular referendum stipulated by the Constitution of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, it left Ukraine and became part of the Russian Federation.
    2 / Putin is a normal guy. Yes - he does not want to conquer the peoples. We do not impose our political system of views on anyone, but conduct a constructive dialogue.
    3 / We don’t have to lift the sanctions from us, the state only gets stronger from us, pro-Western people go to the West anyway, they can eat jamon and maazdam, ordinary people haven’t tried this, but they eat plain pork carbonate, boiled pork and pastrami .
    4 / Why should we "agree to any decision" ?? !! the people have already expressed their will - all go .... who is not satisfied with this decision.
    5 / "And the West has done much to challenge Moscow, including encouraging a street uprising against the democratically elected president." - it's good that you admit that you are guilty of the bedlam in Ukraine.
    1. Dry_T-50
      Dry_T-50 10 May 2016 19: 44
      -3
      Quote: shcishcok
      Dougou Bandou: 1 / Crimea Russia did not reject, but according to the results of the popular referendum stipulated by the Constitution of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, it left Ukraine and became part of the Russian Federation.

      Uh ... And in Russia itself, a referendum on a change of territory was taking place? I am not a Svidomo / akhedzhakovets, but it is not good to break my own laws
      1. Manul
        Manul 10 May 2016 21: 18
        +1
        Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
        Uh ... And in Russia itself, a referendum on a change in territory took place?

        Occurred.
  20. Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell 10 May 2016 13: 55
    +11
    Quote: herruvim

    4. American regulars.
    How many films were made about the invincible American army ... There is only one BUT. The Yankees absolutely do not know how to fight without artillery training, tanks and airstrikes. If the territory has not been scorched to a state of a deserted desert, the soldiers will not go there. And if they go, then they don’t come back. They shoot very well, perfectly coordinated, but they are shy in front of any resistance. Then they become easy prey. Losses are going through hard, up to a complete loss of combat effectiveness. Underpants.
    Rating - biting dogs.


    The basis of American military science is the classical German theory of von Clausewitz: create three times superiority and go ahead, this is still being taught at American academies for senior officers. And for the same, they still run into Schwarzkopf, in Iraq losses could have been avoided, but the brain has become numb.
    Although it is surprising, the stripes do not get tired of loading the whole world about their exclusiveness and aggressive intentions of Russia.
  21. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 10 May 2016 13: 55
    +1
    However, Ukrainians must choose their own path, fully aware that no one in the West is ready to start a full-fledged economic war, not to mention the military conflict with Russia possessing nuclear weapons over the status of Kiev.
    These are the keywords of the whole article. Riders should have burned them on their chest ...
  22. thinker
    thinker 10 May 2016 14: 03
    +3
    Quote: Zomanus
    The article is not written for us, we need to understand this.
    And with such articles, Americans are led to
    that it’s time to leave Ukraine and consolidate the current status of Crimea as part of Russia.

    I’ll write for them! Maybe someone will read.
    1. Crimea, this is not a city.
    2. The manifesto on the acceptance of Crimea into the Russian state was signed by Catherine II
    in 1783 year.
  23. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 10 May 2016 14: 11
    +3
    2 of the year ...
    Golan and West Bank for 50 years as part of Israel,
    entire cities were built there, but no one recognized it.
    1. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS 10 May 2016 15: 03
      +3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      entire cities were built there, but no one recognized it.

      The namesake, and your leadership is even a little worried about this fact? Recognition is needed only in self-doubt. (in my humble opinion)
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 10 May 2016 16: 43
        +3
        Exciting. For the same reasons as Russia: sanctions, boycotts.
        The cost of holding the "disputed" territories is now quite
        high. In the 19th century he captured: fair / unfair - hello everyone! - your.
        From the second half of the 20th ... hard. recourse We also have agreements on
        these territories are not foreseen for another 50 years, I think.
        But the economic price has to be paid.
        1. Weyland
          Weyland 11 May 2016 01: 53
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          We also don’t expect agreements on these territories for another 50 years, I think. But you have to pay an economic price.


          But you haven’t given them all over for 50 years? So we will not give up!

          The crown to the bold!
          Scepter - to the daredevils!
          Throne - to the one who says:
          "I will take it - and I will not give it up!"
          (Kipling, "Cold Iron")

          "And now we need one victory -
          one for all, we will not stand for the price! "
        2. fennekRUS
          fennekRUS 11 May 2016 23: 01
          0
          Quote: voyaka uh
          The cost of holding the "disputed" territories is now quite
          high.

          I'm afraid the price paid under the pressure of the "world community" from Wall Street will be much higher (in human lives). And sanctions are difficult, of course, but not the first time?
  24. MATROSKIN-53
    MATROSKIN-53 10 May 2016 14: 35
    +4
    The issue of Crimea in general should be removed from the agenda. Nothing to talk about. Everything is clear without words.
  25. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 10 May 2016 14: 46
    +3
    This is not clowning, but a pattern break. Zapadnyuki cannot understand how this is so - the Russian "elite" keeps the loot, real estate and teaches their children, and in addition, the Russians are trying to say something about their national interests. What the hell, you ask? Well, our "elites" are in no hurry to follow the national course, but give the West advances for the further possible squandering of our resources and sagging Russia under it. This raskoryak discourages everyone. If they would clearly and distinctly show the west a naked woman and a goat's face, then there would not be so many groans. Everyone would quickly wipe themselves off and start working and living in new realities.
  26. vlmotec
    vlmotec 10 May 2016 14: 57
    +3
    [Supporters of sanctions insist that Russia more fully implement the provisions of the Minsk Agreements]
    How should Russia comply? Probably Sergey Viktorovich Lavrov needs to collect his American colleagues and read the Minsk agreements according to syllables, so that they outline them lol
  27. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 10 May 2016 15: 00
    +3
    Before raising the issue of lifting the sanctions, you need to figure out why they were introduced and who benefits from it. They were introduced by the United States and forced to support this act of their henchmen from the EU and a handful of countries licking ass states. Mostly exporters from EU countries and those who joined the same flew into the headstock. It is noteworthy that neither the States nor the EU did not deny themselves the pleasure of continuing to buy gas, oil, wheat, rocket engines and a number of other Russian products. As for the reasons for the imposition of these sanctions, it is the only one - it is a fright! Russia has risen too much in the political and economic sense, not to mention the military potential. Fright will not pass soon, but sanctions, well, we don’t get used to it, Russia has always lived under restrictions, if we survive, you can forget.
  28. Knizhnik
    Knizhnik 10 May 2016 15: 00
    +1
    This does not justify rude actions on the part of Russia aimed at dismembering its neighbor


    And without a fly in the ointment
  29. VladimS
    VladimS 10 May 2016 15: 05
    +2
    Quote: CORNET
    We need Kiev .... And then you can cancel your sanctions if there is such an unbearable desire.))))

    That absolutely does not need Russia and the people, absolutely!
    Feed the breakthrough of ungrateful tricks, getting no bullet so spit in the back ..?!
    Once again, to restore everything there, cutting itself back in many ways (closing the necessary construction sites and projects) and your old people .. Well, really not !!!!!!! Strongly against.
    Now let them as they want .. jumped - jumped!
    How to cut, drive, and build ships.
  30. Konstantin Yu
    Konstantin Yu 10 May 2016 15: 18
    +2
    Western delirium has already become stable and not funny. It seems that before you say take off, you must first affirm the meaning and concept of each word. Take, for example, the expansion of NATO. .. take offense, bounce, cheeks puff out, and when in the forehead: what did you want, at our borders? In response, nonsense.
    It is clear that in fact, all this verbal blizzard and clownery hides aggressive military intentions. Conclusion: in words, using logic with them is not a rewarding and mostly useless occupation. Our powerful Army Fleet and Aerospace Forces are the best translator for "partners". And the "public's eyes" will open when it smells of fried.
  31. Ros 56
    Ros 56 10 May 2016 16: 33
    +2
    Crimea was, is and will be Russian, and all went to hell with their sanctions. Just tired.
  32. cheap trick
    cheap trick 10 May 2016 16: 46
    +1
    I can not understand?! that’s why they put cons, didn’t offend anyone, threw a link to the video, slapped 2 minuses just like that! for the flag or what?
  33. Lelek
    Lelek 10 May 2016 18: 15
    +1
    (“Allies should discuss getting out of the sanctions framework they are stuck in. They can abandon the economic war, promise to stop NATO expansion and its approach to Russian borders (the most important thing is not to include Ukraine), reduce military support for Kiev and help ensure that Ukraine economically looked both ways.)

    The advice is pragmatic and sound, but will the USA & Co listen to it? It seems that - no. Indeed, in this case, the myth about the "exclusiveness" and "procuracy" of the United States evaporates, and the gang of vassals will scatter in different directions.
  34. volodya
    volodya 10 May 2016 18: 35
    +3
    I don’t understand what’s the matter, there was a referendum, the people decided to join Russia, ours didn’t help much, that’s all. And sanctions, this is so, not Crimea would have found anything else.
  35. sinoptic
    sinoptic 11 May 2016 09: 53
    0
    A very and very short-sighted, inconsistent article by this Douglas Bandow.
    Hoping that we will cease to support Donbas and hold a referendum for gentlemen from the USA / Europe - this means not understanding what is happening at all.
    On the one hand, he writes that the West forces Moscow to act and immediately calls Putin the tsar precisely for the fact that he acts.
    This makes no sense. He writes in order to have more "bukav".

    An interesting trend.
    They have any strong leader in the west - this is the king, sultan, dictator ... anyone, if he is not American.
    Well, excuse me, the bureaucrats in power are not everywhere.