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Is war with Russia possible? (The Nation, USA)

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Is war with Russia possible? (The Nation, USA)



The US is undermining opportunities for cooperation with Russia in Syria, in Ukraine, while simultaneously increasing NATO’s military presence alongside Russia.

Nation writing editor Stephen Cohen and radio host John Batchelor continue their weekly discussions about the new US-Russian Cold War after two weeks off. Cohen complains that in the past two weeks, the Obama administration has been undermining cooperation with Moscow on three fronts of the Cold War.

Refusing to accept President Putin’s convincing arguments that the Syrian army and its allies are the only ground force effectively acting against the Islamic State (at the moment, events are unfolding around the key city of Aleppo), Washington and its submissive press condemn the Syrian-Russian campaign against the "moderate" fighters against Assad, among whom there are also quite a few jihadists. The Geneva peace talks, which Kerry’s State Secretary and Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov were able to achieve, were in jeopardy. As for the confrontation around Ukraine, which continues against the background of how this country is slipping deeper into the political and economic crisis, the Minsk Party was the main hope for ending the civil war and indirect war in this case. However, their implementation was practically disrupted at the UN, when the US representative Samantha Power (Samantha Power) stated that they are demanding that Russia return the Crimea (in fact, the Crimea is not even mentioned in them). Meanwhile, in Europe, public opinion is leaning towards the lifting of sanctions against Russia - at least the results of the Dutch referendum on Ukraine’s admission to the European Union and voting in the French parliament on the issue of sanctions speak about it. However, the Obama administration - and not only Ambassador Power, but also President Obama himself - is actively lobbying, seeking to preserve the sanctions, the vote on which should take place this summer.

Meanwhile, the US-led NATO alliance continues to build up its land, sea, and air forces at and near Russian borders. Not surprisingly, Cohen notes that Moscow responds by sending its aircraft to American ships passing close to the Russian naval base in Kaliningrad. At the same time, it is strange that Washington and Brussels, two decades in a row advancing their forces to the Russian borders and now increasing their military presence in the region, accuse Moscow of “provocations against NATO”. Who, asks Cohen, who “provokes”, and who against whom “shows aggression”? Such NATO actions, he adds, can only arouse the Russians' memories of the German invasion 1941 of the year - that is, the latest episode, when such hostile military forces accumulated on the Russian borders.

In addition, Cohen recalls the influential Kremlin faction, which has long argued - behind closed doors, of course - that the West, under the leadership of America, is preparing a full-fledged "hot war" against Russia. These people believe that Putin did not prepare the country for the war properly, either in domestic policy or in foreign policy. In the past two weeks, the Russian political struggle came to the surface when three prominent representatives of the Russian elite accused Putin (who is directly and who is hidden) that his government, headed by Dmitry Medvedev, is the “fifth column”. This faction does not seek to overthrow Putin - he has no alternative, and he has a very high rating (exceeding 80%) - but he wants a change of government and political course. It requires the mobilization of the economy in the Soviet spirit, preparation for war and a more active military policy abroad - especially in Ukraine. In the end, Cohen asks a question: is the US and NATO leadership moving towards a war with Russia, unconsciously or actively seeking conflict?
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 10 May 2016 09: 13
    +17
    when three prominent representatives of the Russian elite accused Putin (who is directly and who is hidden) of the fact that his government, led by Dmitry Medvedev, is the “fifth column”
    Who is he talking about ?.
    1. leo3972
      leo3972 10 May 2016 09: 18
      +7
      I personally do not know who it is.
      But they probably know better laughing
      1. jjj
        jjj 10 May 2016 09: 23
        +6
        Apparently, these are Zhirinovsky, Zyuganov and Mironov
        1. Sharapov
          Sharapov 10 May 2016 09: 28
          +3
          They are supposed to criticize Medvedev and the government ...
          1. WKS
            WKS 10 May 2016 10: 32
            +7
            In the end, Cohen asks the question: is the leadership of the United States and NATO moving toward a war with Russia unconsciously or actively seeking conflict?

            No rational creature can consciously strive for war with Russia, since Russia is not Yugoslavia and the conflict with it is almost certainly fraught with its own death, both on a state scale and personally. All these actions of the Obama regime in poker would be called a bluff, but the policy is not poker, the entire people of the United States are at risk for the sake of the unreasonable ambitions of the group now standing at the helm. If they continue to rattle weapons at our borders, then most likely and in the end it will end with a roar from thermonuclear explosions in many American cities.
            1. zoknyay82
              zoknyay82 10 May 2016 12: 13
              +8
              Unfortunately, in our cities too.
          2. CONTROL
            CONTROL 10 May 2016 10: 38
            +9
            Quote: Sharapov
            They are supposed to criticize Medvedev and the government ...

            Yeah, and I mean - freelance?! ... and 60-65 percent of users of this resource - IN - are also "freelance"? ...
            -------------
            To criticize does not mean to be the enemy of the criticized! this is an indirect participation "in affairs", like the institution of "chargé d'affaires" ...
          3. Saratoga833
            Saratoga833 10 May 2016 12: 55
            +7
            Quote: Sharapov
            They are supposed to criticize Medvedev and the government.

            And I would have dismissed Medvedev together with the government because of his complete inability to pursue a reasonable domestic policy!
            1. Alf
              Alf 10 May 2016 21: 45
              +1
              Quote: Saratoga833
              fired

              This government should not be dismissed, but towards the North Star, and without the right to return.
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 10 May 2016 09: 33
          +2
          Quote: jjj
          Apparently, these are Zhirinovsky, Zyuganov and Mironov

          Ah, well, soon the elections, which is surprising.
        3. silver_roman
          silver_roman 10 May 2016 10: 29
          +14
          Quote: jjj
          Apparently, these are Zhirinovsky, Zyuganov and Mironov

          If so, then this is an empty ring.
          Zhirik sometimes says smart things, his words would be a move, but his reputation will not allow this to happen.
          Zyuganov and Mironov are completely discredited and deprived of trust. A lot of jambs behind them.
          I personally see the only worthy force today, this is the "Air Defense" (Great Fatherland Party), headed by Starikov. He seems to be not going to cut the living, as it is customary for us to change the government. Supports the same Putin, but at the same time proposes systemic (!) Reforms that Russia needs so much. This is education, a banking system with colonial notes, a constitution that is written on the knee under the dictation FROM THERE!
          1. weksha50
            weksha50 10 May 2016 10: 48
            +6
            Quote: silver_roman
            I personally today I see the only worthy force, this is the "Air Defense" (Great Fatherland Party), headed by Starikov. He seems to be not going to cut the living things, as it is customary for us to change power.



            Controversial issue ...
            Starikov as a political observer and analyst is one thing ...
            The old men at the head of state are (most likely) completely different ...

            They are all literate when they are on the podium or at the microphone ... But these are not people of action ...

            And now ... I think, at the stage of various pre-election races, Starikov with his air defense will play the same role that Zhirinovsky played and is playing with his party ... He will delay a part of the votes and then transfer it ... well, where you need to ...

            In general, the usual political game during the elections ...
            1. silver_roman
              silver_roman 10 May 2016 12: 18
              +5
              I probably agree with you. He has little experience.
              But it would not be bad to shove it into the government.
              That and his plans are apparently long-playing, given that he went his own way, although, it seems to me, under supervision.
              The bottom line is that United Russia is about nothing. What can we say when Valuy and Kozhevnikova are party leaders (a monster and a beauty and both 0 in politics and influence on it). And this is the most harmless thing in the party. In fact, this is the home of that very 5 column.
              At one time I heard that they wanted to shift the role of the Central Bank on VTB. Perhaps this is nonsense, but who knows. It has long been clear that we need a hard filter that will cleanse power from traitors and lobbyists.
              1. weksha50
                weksha50 10 May 2016 13: 22
                +1
                Quote: silver_roman
                And this is the most harmless thing in the party


                Hmm ... It's hard NOT to agree ...
          2. Samoyed
            Samoyed 10 May 2016 11: 41
            +4
            Kasatonov, Glazyev. Although, they are more likely political economists than politicians. Most importantly, they justify evolutionary reforms, without the fanaticism of the revolution.
        4. Roman 11
          Roman 11 10 May 2016 14: 00
          +1
          Quote: jjj
          Apparently, these are Zhirinovsky, Zyuganov and Mironov

          Zadornov with Petrosyan and Zhvanetsky laughing

          They always knew us more than ours, they simply struck us with awareness - for example, several years ago the army structure was divided into divisions. tongue
    2. The black
      The black 10 May 2016 09: 27
      +7
      But men don’t know.
      Indeed, it would be interesting to know who these three heroes are - three prominent representatives and representatives of what. bullyThere are suspicions that in the West they consider Navalny Kasparov and Kasyanov as such. And of course, Makarevich with Agedzhakova laughing ....... and Samantha Power, a lady in her fifth decade, is not respectable to walk so fake (judging by the photo). smile
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 10 May 2016 10: 27
        +1
        What relation to the Kremlin fraction do the clowns you mentioned have?
    3. kepmor
      kepmor 10 May 2016 09: 34
      +2
      If this really happened (as many as three, and besides, "prominent representatives"), then with joy "I would have drunk myself into death"!
      Well, if only by "three" we mean - bulk, Garik with Mitrokhin ... but they are just for the government of the bear, like Putin himself!
    4. Mercenary
      Mercenary 10 May 2016 11: 43
      +3
      Kasyanov, Navalny, Kasparov! laughing
    5. GSH-18
      GSH-18 12 May 2016 16: 03
      0
      In addition, Cohen recalls the influential Kremlin faction, which has long claimed - behind closed doors, of course - that the West, under the leadership of America, is preparing a full-fledged "hot war" against Russia. .... three prominent representatives of the Russian elite accused Putin (who is directly and who is hidden) of the fact that his government, headed by Dmitry Medvedev, is the “fifth column”

      A faction means ... Influential ... Accused ... Well, well ..
  2. avvg
    avvg 10 May 2016 09: 14
    +11
    America, as always, can "shit" for us, only with someone else's hands.
    1. cap
      cap 10 May 2016 09: 22
      +6
      Quote: avvg
      America, as always, can "shit" for us, only with someone else's hands.


      They did this their whole history, and they won’t change anything.
      1. Bobxnumx
        Bobxnumx 10 May 2016 09: 31
        +6
        The United States is fenced off from almost ALL oceans, because of such a "fence" it is easy for everyone to "spoil the air."
  3. NordUral
    NordUral 10 May 2016 09: 16
    +15
    In addition, Cohen recalls the influential Kremlin faction, which has long argued - behind closed doors, of course - that the West, under the leadership of America, is preparing a full-fledged "hot war" against Russia. These people believe that Putin did not prepare the country for the war properly, either in domestic policy or in foreign policy. In the past two weeks, the Russian political struggle came to the surface when three prominent representatives of the Russian elite accused Putin (who is directly and who is hidden) that his government, headed by Dmitry Medvedev, is the “fifth column”. This faction does not seek to overthrow Putin - he has no alternative, and he has a very high rating (exceeding 80%) - but he wants a change of government and political course. It requires the mobilization of the economy in the Soviet spirit, preparation for war and a more active military policy abroad - especially in Ukraine. In the end, Cohen asks a question: is the US and NATO leadership moving towards a war with Russia, unconsciously or actively seeking conflict?

    If only they, but practically all the people against the fifth column in power. And the government of Medvedev and the Central Bank is exactly the fifth column.
    1. SPACE
      SPACE 10 May 2016 10: 15
      -2
      Quote: NordUral
      If only they, but practically all the people against the fifth column in power. And the government of Medvedev and the Central Bank is exactly the fifth column.

      You would not take the liberty to make statements on behalf of the whole people, reminds you of another mission and interpreter of popular aspirations. And what is wrong with the Medvedev government, the activity of any government consists mainly in creating rules within which people, by virtue of their abilities and fantasies, realize their Wishlist. Well, you can add that this government performs the functions of an ordinary Trojan horse for the West, it’s better to buy oil and gas, etc., and for the income from which many live and receive pensions.
  4. ImPerts
    ImPerts 10 May 2016 09: 16
    +3
    In the past two weeks, Russian political struggle has come to the surface when three prominent representatives of the Russian elite accused Putin (who is directly and who is hidden) of the fact that his government, led by Dmitry Medvedev, is the “fifth column”. This faction does not seek to overthrow Putin - he has no alternative, and he has too high a rating (exceeding 80%), but he wants a change in government and political course.

    Honestly, I missed this moment. Who and when?
    There will be no war before the change of president. A provocation is possible at the time of the transfer of power and at the beginning of the reign of the new president.
    And here I would like to see Trump at the presidential Olympus.
    A woman, and even offended by men (a man) does not really want to. The possibility of any exacerbations from such a leader is much higher.
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    2. lis-ik
      lis-ik 10 May 2016 09: 19
      +3
      I also did not understand about three prominent representatives, most likely fabrications, if something was according to anyone, at least at the level of rumors, but it would have leaked.
      1. spool
        spool 10 May 2016 09: 25
        0
        Well, it’s like Navalny, Kasyanov, well, some kind of Khodorkovsky, for example wink A bunch of pi ......
    3. Lelek
      Lelek 10 May 2016 10: 17
      +3
      Quote: ImPerts
      A woman, and even offended by men (a man) does not really want to.


      If you do not want, do not eat (this is the first thing). And secondly, a "lesbian" man cannot "offend" sexually. Well, if to be serious, then Clintons on the throne of "exceptional" is a hot war, since she is Brzezinski in a skirt. yes
    4. LÄRZ
      LÄRZ 10 May 2016 10: 31
      +2
      Quote: ImPerts
      A woman, and even offended by men (men) do not really want

      Babu with a cart, a mare on sausage.
    5. Samoyed
      Samoyed 10 May 2016 11: 43
      +3
      Our Grybauskaite is a vivid example.
    6. alicante11
      alicante11 10 May 2016 13: 13
      +2
      And here I would like to see Trump at the presidential Olympus.
      A woman, and even offended by men (a man) does not really want to.


      I am begging you. You might think that Monkey or Clintonih someone will give the right to determine politics. And it’s not for these clowns to start wars. If the Amer oligarchy needs a war, they will unleash it even if all past and future presidents are against and vice versa. In general, it seems to me that, at least, starting with the actor-Reagan, professional actors play Amer presidents.
      At the expense of Trump, I do not know, but it is doubtful that, having full control over the states, the elite will allow an independent candidate. Most of all he looks like Zhirik.
  5. spool
    spool 10 May 2016 09: 21
    +3
    When will these arrogant Saxons calm down ???? All of them are scoundrels. Rather, Yellowstone would have plummeted or something !!!! am
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 10 May 2016 10: 23
      +1
      Quote: spool
      When will these arrogant Saxons calm down ????


      Would you like to know?
      NEVER.
      There is a curious performance of the lover of the pork head (Cameron) about the internal situation in Europe (I quote, click.):
  6. Monos
    Monos 10 May 2016 09: 27
    +20
    Such actions by NATO, he adds, can only arouse Russians' memories of the German invasion of the 1941 of the year - that is, the last episode when such hostile military forces were accumulating on Russian borders.
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 May 2016 09: 31
    +5
    Is the US and NATO leadership moving toward war with Russia unknowingly or actively seeking conflict?

    Of course, it seeks conflict, especially at the borders of the border with Russia.
    Himself (the United States) oh how they do not want the war to go to their territory. But stupid Europe so far takes all the risks.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 May 2016 10: 46
      +3
      As long as Russia has a nuclear "sword" there will be no war.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 10 May 2016 10: 51
        -2
        Quote: Vadim237
        As long as Russia has a nuclear "sword" there will be no war.

        And who in the world is now afraid of a nuclear warrior?
      2. Corsair
        Corsair 10 May 2016 13: 02
        +4
        Quote: Vadim237
        As long as Russia has a nuclear "sword" there will be no war.

        The Americans too believed in their invulnerability, and the strategy of a quick strike with non-nuclear missiles (possibly nuclear) plus the availability of many means of intercepting ICBMs on all fronts - libido amer senators inflates to heaven.
        They will see the opportunity to earn extra money well and not suffer much - they will surely stir up the war, and tolerasts from the EU and Turks with Arabs will be thrown at us (and as distracting targets).
  8. demiurg
    demiurg 10 May 2016 09: 33
    +6
    Neither Europe nor America is ready for a serious war. Not there are those who will sit for months in the trenches, under constant shelling and bombing. Drive through deserts / jungles / mountains on strikers, with 100% air cover, this is always welcome. But one on one against the tank, or to fight with helmets and sapper shovels in urban battles, are not ready.
    And we can. And China, India, Pakistan, even Turkey can.
    And they will never use nuclear weapons either, they are afraid that in return heat will fly into every home.
    Both Europe and America will do everything so that Russia, India, China, Pakistan, and Turkey fight among themselves. Then redraw the borders so that there remains a backlog for future conflicts.
    Apparently, Turkey will be divided first. It will bring a lot of benefits to the West. This is the straits, and the territory under Kurdistan (with huge oil reserves), and a goat to Iran. Yes, and a little money from the seized accounts. And again, they do not have their own nuclear bomb.
    1. Prometey
      Prometey 10 May 2016 10: 42
      +4
      Quote: demiurg
      Neither Europe nor America is ready for a serious war. Not there are those who will sit for months in the trenches, under constant shelling and bombing.

      On the basis of what is such a profound conclusion drawn?
      And give an example of the last war, where opponents sit for months in the trenches - probably since the First World War there is already no such.
      By the way, what is one on one against a tank - can you clarify? And underestimating a potential adversary has never brought anyone good.
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      2. Weyland
        Weyland 11 May 2016 02: 17
        0
        Quote: Prometey
        And give an example of the last war, where opponents sit for months in the trenches - probably since the First World War there is already no such.


        Google "Battle of Rzhev "(from January 5, 1942 to March 21, 1943)
    2. weksha50
      weksha50 10 May 2016 11: 10
      +2
      Quote: demiurg
      Neither Europe nor America is ready for a serious war. There are not those who will sit for months in the trenches, under constant shelling and bombing.


      The war directly with the United States (and not only with them) is unlikely to occur in the trenches ...
    3. Alex 1983
      Alex 1983 10 May 2016 11: 41
      +3
      And they will never use nuclear weapons either, they are afraid that in return heat will fly into every home.


      if the nuclear state is driven into a corner (it will lose the war) it will apply it, there’s nothing left to lose
  9. Nitarius
    Nitarius 10 May 2016 09: 34
    +8
    What is being prepared for the war by the United States and so it is visible! looking for any occasion in the border MORDO SUNUT!
    and every excuse is another LIE! LABORATORIES drag in the same way!
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 10 May 2016 13: 14
      +1
      Quote: Nitarius
      LABORATORIES drag in the same way!

      This is much worse, because the enemy is invisible, and hits primarily the elderly, children and women.
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  11. Kibl
    Kibl 10 May 2016 09: 44
    0
    Here are ushlepki, in childhood they didn’t play enough war. In the course of these brave warriors in childhood, they were probably cut into dolls!
  12. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 10 May 2016 09: 46
    +3
    Of course, these striped nits will not fight. Fear for their own skin among the arrogant Saxons, gayrope, and even more so among the Americans, to a degree exceeds the fears of the rest of the world's population. And even more so, it makes no sense to compare this electoral rubbish with Russian people. Really can attack if 100% are confident in impunity. And such a situation is possible only with the complete betrayal of our authorities, which I do not particularly believe, because they also live hunting.
    Therefore, they will be vilely dirty at every opportunity and set fire to everything that only can catch fire. If you can’t persuade these geeks diplomatically, then you need to use other methods. Being lowered and silently flowing around is definitely not a way out of the situation.
    1. Prometey
      Prometey 10 May 2016 10: 47
      +2
      Quote: Volzhanin
      Fear for their own skin among the arrogant Saxons, gayrope, and even more so among the Americans, to a degree exceeds the fears of the rest of the world's population.

      Well, how do you know that? Take to the streets of our cities and ask, who is ready even now to lay his head where the state will send?
      1. Alex 1983
        Alex 1983 10 May 2016 11: 33
        +2
        in peacetime, maybe no one is ready to lay his head ... but as a rule, in the event of a military conflict (invasion of the territory of the Russian Federation) there is no end to volunteers! this can be seen in all major wars and 1812 and 1941
        1. Prometey
          Prometey 10 May 2016 14: 05
          +2
          Quote: Alex 1983
          But as a rule, in the event of a military conflict (invasion of the territory of the Russian Federation) there is no end to volunteers!

          Only volunteers cannot win the war - they quickly grind. In 1812, the participation of the militia was purely symbolic - to take the wounded away, and bury the corpses. In 1917, it was not like volunteers who could not be driven into the army with bayonets.
          In the Great Patriotic War, everything was decided by total mobilization.
          Now the total mobilization is unrealistic - the equipped and trained soldier has become too expensive - this is not a Red Army man from the trilinear times of 1941. Therefore, a clash on the battlefield of armies of more than 200 thousand is most likely the limit. And it’s not difficult to set up such an army for the NATO.
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 10 May 2016 14: 49
            +1
            In the Great Patriotic War, everything was decided by total mobilization.


            There was a mobilization, no doubt, but ascribing to yourself in the military enlistment offices a year to get to the front are facts and militia divisions near Moscow are also a fact. And there are many such veils, and together they say that the voluntary movement in the Second World War cannot be discounted.
            1. Prometey
              Prometey 10 May 2016 18: 01
              +2
              Quote: alicante11
              And there are many such veils, and together they say that the voluntary movement in the Second World War cannot be discounted.

              Nobody resets. But the point is different - where does the local experts come from a harsh opinion that our people are just tearing vests on themselves now? Russian society is in the deepest depression. Not from the fact that life has become hard, but from the fact that it is not clear how long it will fall into the abyss. There would be something to feed, and not think about the exploits.
  13. Leto
    Leto 10 May 2016 09: 51
    -3
    that his government, led by Dmitry Medvedev, is the “fifth column”

    Humor in the morning tossed!
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 10 May 2016 13: 05
      +1
      Quote: Leto
      Humor in the morning tossed!

      This is not a joke thrown, it really is!
  14. Jamuqa
    Jamuqa 10 May 2016 09: 51
    +1
    I assume that these three fine young men (̶v̶o̶ ̶g̶l̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶r̶sh̶i̶m̶ ̶s̶e̶r̶zh̶a̶n̶t̶o̶m̶ ̶L̶a̶v̶r̶o̶v̶y̶m̶̶.I̶m̶ ̶n̶o̶g̶i̶ ̶m̶y̶t̶̶ ̶p̶o̶ ̶s̶r̶o̶k̶u̶ ̶s̶l̶u̶zh̶b̶y̶ ̶n̶e̶ ̶p̶o̶l̶o̶zh̶e̶n̶o̶, ̶ ̶a̶ ̶ch̶i̶s̶t̶o̶t̶u̶ ̶o̶n̶i̶ ̶l̶yu̶b̶ya̶t̶.̶ ̶B̶u̶d̶e̶t̶e̶ ̶i̶m̶ ̶p̶o̶r̶t̶ya̶n̶k̶i̶ ̶s̶t̶i̶r̶a̶t̶̶ ̶s̶ ̶d̶e̶t̶s̶k̶i̶m̶ ̶m̶y̶l̶o̶m̶: ̶ ̶d̶e̶m̶b̶e̶l̶ya̶ ̶m̶i̶k̶r̶o̶b̶o̶v̶ ̶b̶o̶ya̶t̶s̶ya̶.̶): Ulyukayev, Gref, Kudrin
  15. Jedi
    Jedi 10 May 2016 10: 10
    +3
    Quote: Jamuha
    I assume that these three fine young men (̶v̶o̶ ̶g̶l̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶r̶sh̶i̶m̶ ̶s̶e̶r̶zh̶a̶n̶t̶o̶m̶ ̶L̶a̶v̶r̶o̶v̶y̶m̶̶.I̶m̶ ̶n̶o̶g̶i̶ ̶m̶y̶t̶̶ ̶p̶o̶ ̶s̶r̶o̶k̶u̶ ̶s̶l̶u̶zh̶b̶y̶ ̶n̶e̶ ̶p̶o̶l̶o̶zh̶e̶n̶o̶, ̶ ̶a̶ ̶ch̶i̶s̶t̶o̶t̶u̶ ̶o̶n̶i̶ ̶l̶yu̶b̶ya̶t̶.̶ ̶B̶u̶d̶e̶t̶e̶ ̶i̶m̶ ̶p̶o̶r̶t̶ya̶n̶k̶i̶ ̶s̶t̶i̶r̶a̶t̶̶ ̶s̶ ̶d̶e̶t̶s̶k̶i̶m̶ ̶m̶y̶l̶o̶m̶: ̶ ̶d̶e̶m̶b̶e̶l̶ya̶ ̶m̶i̶k̶r̶o̶b̶o̶v̶ ̶b̶o̶ya̶t̶s̶ya̶.̶): Ulyukayev, Gref, Kudrin

    So these three are the fifth column, Ulyukaev in general in the government. Therefore, not an option.
  16. t118an
    t118an 10 May 2016 10: 21
    +1
    Everything can be. And how do we be on the outskirts - also a question. It could be more active. As it turned out, we all have very many things to scam. In addition to nuclear weapons.
  17. mark_rod
    mark_rod 10 May 2016 10: 34
    +4
    The fact that the Medvedev government does Russia more harm than good is what we ourselves see. Only Putin will not change it ...
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 10 May 2016 13: 06
      +2
      Quote: mark_rod
      Putin will not change him ...

      Oh, so sorry! And I would like so much!
  18. Basil50
    Basil50 10 May 2016 10: 38
    +6
    That’s interesting, in the article, the speeches of Western * ideologists * about the war against RUSSIA and the provocation of NATO, and all this exists in reality. But the emphasis is on the fact that * some * ideologues in KREMLIN, fearing a future war, demanded that B. Putin put more intensive development of RUSSIA. I emphasize that against the real military training of NATO there are possible requirements for the development of our own country. And how many identifications of those who * demanded from Putin to Putin *, i.e. the fact that NATO is preparing for war is virtually no doubt.
  19. basil200
    basil200 10 May 2016 10: 38
    0
    when three prominent representatives of the Russian elite accused Putin (who is directly and who is hidden) of the fact that his government, led by Dmitry Medvedev, is the “fifth column”
    It seems that the discussion came ahead of time, these three representatives of the elite did not have time to blame Putin.
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 10 May 2016 13: 10
      +4
      Quote: basil200
      these three representatives of the elite did not have time to blame Putin.

      No matter how late it was! When it will be too late to blame! Medvedev must be shaken thoroughly together with the financial block in advance! Then it won’t be too late!
  20. weksha50
    weksha50 10 May 2016 10: 40
    +3
    When I see photos of Obama, Power, Hillary Clinton, associations involuntarily pop up in my brain: "Lies and madness"...

    And when I see or hear people like Medvedev, Ulyukaev, Siluanov and others, I associate them with the word "Betrayal"... Moreover, treason in the government ... What else could be worse for Russia?
    1. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS 10 May 2016 10: 51
      +3
      Quote: weksha50
      And when I see or hear people like Medvedev, Ulyukaev, Siluanov and others, I associate them with the word "Betrayal" ... Moreover, betrayal in the government ... What else could be worse for Russia?

      I agree, of course, but, I remember, in 2008 DAM became president with the supply of GDP! Or forgot?
      1. Saratoga833
        Saratoga833 10 May 2016 13: 13
        +1
        Quote: PHANTOM-AS
        Or forgot?

        No, they haven't forgotten, but it was a very big mistake of Putin, given that Medvedev has long been a friend of Putin's friends! Nepotism and "friendship" in the service have never led to anything good, which has been shown by reality!
      2. weksha50
        weksha50 10 May 2016 13: 28
        +5
        Quote: PHANTOM-AS
        Or forgot?


        No ... So far, thank God, memory does not refuse ...
        I also remember Medvedev being awarded the traitor of Hunchback with the highest award of the Russian Federation - the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called ...
        He himself, even as president, without appropriate permission, would not have done this ...

        However, this is sometimes confusing ... The game of a bad and good chief-manager? A purely psychological study for plebs?

        Although, in many ways, Putin looks like a patriot ... And I just don’t understand for what reason all this rubbish-mold will not eradicate ... Apparently, the consequences for him can be the most difficult and irreversible ... We are all the nuances of all this we don’t know the hellish cuisine called politics ...
        1. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS 10 May 2016 15: 52
          +2
          Quote: weksha50
          Although, in many ways, Putin looks like a patriot ... And I just don’t understand for what reason all this rubbish-mold will not eradicate ... Apparently, the consequences for him can be the most difficult and irreversible ... We are all the nuances of all this we don’t know the hellish cuisine called politics ...

          Quote: Saratoga833
          but that was a very big mistake of Putin, given that Medvedev has long been a friend of Putin's friends! Nepotism and "friendship" in the service have never led to anything good, as reality has shown!

          Comrades, cast aside your illusions!
          All these characters are a single anti-people whole, and from the class point of view, they are our enemies.
          Well, if you are not a bourgeois, of course.
          1. weksha50
            weksha50 10 May 2016 19: 39
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            Quote: PHANTOM-AS
            Comrades, cast aside your illusions!
            All these characters are a single anti-people whole, and from the class point of view, they are our enemies.
            Well, if you are not a bourgeois, of course.


            Hmm ... Without illusions, living is somehow dreary ...

            Almost all his life he lived in illusions ... about a bright future ... but around this time there were only problems ...
            1. PHANTOM-AS
              PHANTOM-AS 10 May 2016 23: 37
              +2
              Quote: weksha50
              .. Without illusions, living is somehow dreary ...

              But pretend! This look
              Everything can express so wonderful!
              Ah, it's not difficult to deceive me! ...
              I'm happy to deceive myself!
              Well, yes, here the question will not be about personal illusions and self-deception, we will talk about children and grandchildren.
              And if We want to deceive them, let us deceive ourselves or pretend.
              I will not stop repeating, either this power will destroy the people, or the people will destroy this power. There will be no third!
  21. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 10 May 2016 10: 42
    +1
    Yes, let them trynd what they want. What are they?
    Nation writer Nicholas Stephen Cohen and radio host John Batchelor continue after a two-week hiatus to continue their weekly discussions about the new US-Russian Cold War.
    They have such a job, to excite people. A paper maraca and a hollow. (Two sour friends: x ... yes vinegar)
  22. rul
    rul 10 May 2016 10: 49
    +1
    It's time to give this multicultural bandit with European roots a hand. I'm tired of it already, honestly. And climbs, and climbs to all the most ancient civilizations and peoples with their own advice: how to live ... We must again send "Columbus" to close America and transfer power to the indigenous population.
  23. dep071
    dep071 10 May 2016 10: 54
    +1
    If you try to find newspapers 70 years old, headlines like those in this article will appear in ours, both in America and in British.
    Wars have not subsided for decades: in the Middle East, Central Asia, Africa and always in such conflicts, two major players of the USSR and the USA.
    NATO in Europe will not be able to provide a serious offensive with all the desire, since I think this bloc looks more like a money bag and a bunch of mummers "military", to pay bearded mercenaries in Syria and Nazis in Kiev, this is their main purpose, intermediaries. Militarily weak Europe is needed not only by Russia, but by the United States no less, this is obvious in my opinion.
  24. demiurg
    demiurg 10 May 2016 11: 19
    +3
    Quote: Prometey

    On the basis of what is such a profound conclusion drawn?
    And give an example of the last war, where opponents sit for months in the trenches - probably since the First World War there is already no such.
    By the way, what is one on one against a tank - can you clarify? And underestimating a potential adversary has never brought anyone good.


    When approximately equal rivals fight, trenches and tank attacks are present, despite the presence of electronics and guided missiles. And a couple of weeks without hot food, and sleep where a halt announced. Iran / Iraq. India / Pakistan. Trench warfare as much as you like. There were no more major conflicts where they fought about the same in preparation, motivation, and arming the army.
    Arab-Israeli wars do not fit. There, one of the parties had neither training nor motivation for the soldiers. The winner is not a weapon, but a man.
    One against the tank, and this is exactly what happens when one finds himself in a trench / house / dugout with a grenade / rpg / ptur against an iron machine. Someone will run away, someone will hide, and someone will fight.
    The professional armies of the West, these are armies for local wars, actually very well-armed policemen. The majority of the population does not even imagine how to hold a machine gun in their hands. When was the last time England fought for London? When was the last time Americans kept New York militias? Germans / Japanese The West is struggling to turn it into something rosy kawaii.
  25. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 10 May 2016 11: 45
    +8
    Cohen wonders: is the leadership of the United States and NATO moving toward a war with Russia unconsciously or actively seeking conflict?

    There is no question, the United States and NATO are actively striving for a war against Russia, but have not yet found a new "Hitler" in the puppet states, and they themselves are afraid to fight, they know that Russia of the 21st century will not walk into the den of the beast, but will send its compelling arguments to any distance through space.
  26. Cananecat
    Cananecat 10 May 2016 11: 55
    +1
    Aunt hike in lingering leap... sorry, menopause.
  27. Samoyed
    Samoyed 10 May 2016 11: 58
    +2
    Why don't they think that if it is possible to bomb Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria and assume the bombing of Moscow and Beijing, then it is logical to assume that it is possible to bomb both London and Paris and Washington? And let them imagine the consequences of the bombing of New York? Bomb-figure of speech (rockets, electromagnetic, volumetric explosion ..) Draw a 3D video about a pair of bombs falling on New York like on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And show it on the Web, maybe they will think? It's time to recall the consequences - like "Nuclear Winter", maybe they forgot?
  28. Obolensky
    Obolensky 10 May 2016 12: 29
    +3
    The United States hopes to sit out overseas, as England once tried to sit out. They just forgot, it seems that now is not the 19th century and with the help of modern weapons, no one can be safe.

    The United States is actively rocking the world's boat only in order to keep itself on the surface. If all over the world there will be fires of war and large and small wars, it will only play into its hands. You can "help" both. Supply with weapons. Reconcile and divide. The main thing is that the war does not come to them. They just distract attention from themselves in this way.

    War can and will be. But not right now. Only it will not be only between Russia and the United States. And not necessarily Russia will be the first target, by the way ... The United States now has another headache - this is China and its increasingly loud voice.

    Regarding our or not our 5th column ... Everything is not clear here. Who to rank, who not? Who is hidden ... And who is explicit? I am generally in favor of changing the course of our domestic and foreign policy. On a more rigid and pragmatic option. Internal mobilization and stripping. And tougher actions in foreign policy. Bye words. But it’s time to start to DEMAND, and not moan articulate.

    And yes. It's time to review the work of the UN. His Security Council. And throw nafih Ukraine out of there.
  29. Ros 56
    Ros 56 10 May 2016 13: 49
    +1
    And when the Americans fought seriously, who can say? In my opinion, the end of the 60s Vietnam. The result of what - purged. They are selling it now, but the front will be not only in Oyrop, but also in the states. Here is such a technique now. I don’t think that the population will like it, it’s one thing to look at the box, and it’s completely different when a bomb falls on your head.
  30. droideck
    droideck 11 May 2016 20: 08
    0
    Past all politics ... God, how terrible it is, this Power. Rather, even vile ...