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History is being rewritten in Ukraine to make the winners losers in the great war

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After the little-known Kiev professor found Ukrainian roots in Jesus Christ, the world is already difficult to surprise with something. However, try! Today is turning stories Ukraine has become a real craft for unscrupulous scientists and amateurs, excited by shtetl nationalism. This public has become a tradition to celebrate the anniversary of the Great Victory with new projects that distort the real events of the Second World War. This year was no exception.



About 250 thousands of Ukrainians fought on the side of the Third Reich. Of these, only a small part were German citizens. For others, it was their own difficult choice - the desire to liberate their native land or the thirst for revenge, but more often - just a way to survive. Photo and comment from the site http://www.ww2.memory.gov.ua


According to the patterns of a single customer

By the anniversary of the Victory over fascist Germany, Ukrainian historians pleased their compatriots with new discoveries that allow them to “move away from the mythologized and heroic vision of the events of the Second World War, which was formed in the Soviet historical discourse”. It is not difficult to guess that this “discourse” is shifted in favor of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA), from where the current Kiev authorities are now recruiting new “national heroes”.

On this May 5 at a press conference in the Ukrainian Crisis Media Center, reported the chairman of the Ukrainian Institute of National Memory, Vladimir Vyatrovich. Together with his colleagues, he presented three new outreach projects: the website “Ukrainian World War II", The project" War makes no exceptions "and the book" War and Myth.

According to Vyatrovich, the Ukrainian Second World War began in 1939, and the Soviet Union "was one of those key players who pushed the world into World War II." On this interpretation, the “discourse” of the website is being built, which now “is a kind of educational tool that can be used by everyone, in particular, by students and teachers to prepare for lessons”.

The authors of the site made sure that the Ukrainian schoolchildren received quite definite knowledge. Even the vocabulary of objective facts sets it up. Here's how, for example, the site provides information on the number of Ukrainians who fought on the fronts of the Second World War in 1939 - 1945. The infographic is accompanied by the text “six million Ukrainians served in the ranks of the Soviet Armed Forces; about a hundred thousand fought in the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, 120 thousand in the Polish Army, 80 thousand in the US Armed Forces and 45 thousand in the armies of the British Empire. ”

The crafty "served" (the rest at this time fought) little fits with other reliable facts, in particular, the losses in the Second World War. Ukrainians died from 8 to 10 million people, of whom more than five million are civilians. The remaining losses, it turns out, came at the time of "passing" military service.

This is a new interpretation. Last year, then-Kiev Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk practiced manipulating numbers to prove: Ukraine is the main winner on the Eastern Front of the Second World War. In the course were the names and the number of "Ukrainian" fronts, the names of the heroes - the Soviet Ukrainians, their real combat exploits. Something has now migrated to the website: “Ukrainian Alexei Berest raised the USSR flag over the Reichstag. Ukrainian Michael Strenk raised the US flag on Iwo Jima ”. (The Kiev historians preferred to keep silent about the rest of the participants in these exploits.)

Last year's historical delights of the Ukrainian prime minister did not find a response even from overseas patrons of the current Kiev authorities and were quietly forgotten. But an attack on the main holiday of the Ukrainian SSR, Victory Day, was developed.

Ukrainian professor, historian Vasily Marochko calls the celebration of 9 a post-Soviet tradition. “May 9 is not a fixed date, which is directly related to the end of the war. Today this day is a symbol of Soviet agitation and propaganda, it is beneficial for Russia. This is a slogan, a form of influence on people, ”explains Marochko, the current Ukrainian“ discourse ”- to celebrate, like most Europeans, May 8 is the Day of Memory and Reconciliation.

Admittedly, like-minded Ukrainian historian is in Moscow offices. A couple of days after the commemorative press conference at the Kiev media center, Lenta.ru published an interview with Lev Gudkov, Ph.D., director of analytical Levada Center. It was also about the Victory Day. Referring to the data of a public opinion poll, Gudkov admitted that it was 9 of May that the Russians consider Victory Day to be the main state-national holiday. So say more than 80 percent of respondents. Two-thirds of Russians celebrate his feast, with family and friends, watching the parade on TV.

From this authoritative sociologist, Professor Gudkov makes a paradoxical conclusion: “The current Victory cult is fundamentally different from celebrating the end of the Second World War in Europe - there is a day of grief, and it is inscribed in the practice of understanding the past. We have the opposite: the glorification of Victory is a way of collective self-assertion and oblivion of the victims. Through this process, the national inferiority complex is being overcome, because there are no other major national achievements. ”

Lev Gudkov is an informed person. Among other things, he is the chief editor of the journal "Public Opinion Bulletin", a teacher of the sociology of culture at the Institute of European Cultures at the RSUH and Political Sociology at the Moscow Higher School of Social and Economic Sciences. So, by definition, this person should have knowledge above the secondary school, and even there they know about the “Immortal Regiment”, numerous Memory Watches, search teams and our national achievements, which the civilized world values.

Therefore, Gudkov's lament in Lente.ru is not a new word in real knowledge, but an expression of a political position. It seems that the Russian professor and Ukrainian historians have one common customer, whose goal is to belittle the feat of the Soviet people and its role in the Great Victory over fascism.

In Western Europe and the United States have already formed a stable "discourse", which country played a major role in the defeat of Nazism. The other day the international news agency "Sputnik" published data from a survey conducted by British and French sociological companies. Leadership in the victory over fascism belongs to America. Of this, almost 80 percent are surveyed in the United States, almost 60 - in France, 50 percent - in Germany. Now Ukraine is being unconscious. As we can see, representatives of Russian liberals got up to a low start in this campaign.

What kind of heroes are now glorified by Ukrainian historians

To belittle the significance of the Victory Day for the Ukrainians tried almost from the first days of the existence of an independent Ukraine. It's easy to explain. The new power of the republic was seriously influenced by the ethnic diasporas in America, largely formed by the emigrant waves after the world wars, when Western Ukrainians rushed overseas after defeats on the battlefields.

Already under President Viktor Yushchenko, traditional military parades were moved from May 9 to August 24 - Independence Day. Yushchenko began to teach the country to the fact that the main defenders of Ukraine from the Nazis were not the soldiers of the Red Army, but the UPA fighters. The real veterans of the Great Patriotic War tried to boo the President’s verbose speeches about the heroes of the rebel army, but the authorities could no longer stop.

It seemed that President Viktor Yanukovych would restore historical justice. In the year of the 65 anniversary of Victory, large-scale military parades took place in all major cities of Ukraine. In Kiev, together with the Ukrainian military, the 45-th separate guards regiment of the special forces of the Russian airborne troops and soldiers of the Belarusian subunits marched in parade. Thousands of people adorned with St. George ribbons, and Xnumx-meter-made St. George ribbon made in Odessa was carried along Khreshchatyk.

It’s true that already in Lviv, the local court banned any celebrations on Victory Day, and activists of the small town party “Svoboda”, represented by the heirs of UPA fighters, persecuted war veterans, trampled and burned Soviet flags. Kiev then chose not to notice this civil confrontation. Over time, it only grew. A year after the anniversary, the situation escalated in such a way that the nationalists had already turned to serious fights with the use of weapons, smoke bombs and cobblestones.

On that day, Lviv police did not allow veterans to lay flowers at the memorial over the Hill of Glory. Local nationalists took away and trampled the wreath of the Consul General of Russia in Lviv. The scandalous episode of the Kiev authorities left without consequences. The nationalist sabbath ended with a coup in 2014, and the black-and-red flags of the rebel army and portraits of its leaders were affirmed above the crowd.

Last April, the new Ukrainian government finally abandoned the terms "Great Patriotic War" and "Victory Day." The festivities were moved to May 8 (“like in Europe”), and the holiday itself was called “Victory Day over Nazism in World War II”. For the holiday, they produced new military medals decorated in the traditional black-and-red colors for nationalists. At the whim of the authorities, they are now honoring those who suffered a crushing defeat along with the Nazis in this Great War.

Unscrupulous Ukrainian historians are now adjusting their fake theories to them. But the people did not forget about their Great Victory. Last year, thousands of security officials and militants of nationalist battalions kept people from disobedience to the authorities. But no incidents have not done. The clashes and clashes occurred in Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Mariupol, and in Zaporozhye Melitopol they sounded the speech of the Ukrainian military about “Russian occupants”, and then completely drowned out his performance with the song “Holy War”.

With this in mind, the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov now allowed the possibility of "large-scale provocations" during the celebration of 9 May. In order to avoid civil confrontation and social upheavals, the authorities again mobilized security forces and armed nationalists.

Kiev authorities were not afraid in vain. May 9 The Immortal Regiment marched through the streets of Kiev, Kharkov, Odessa and other cities of Ukraine. And almost everywhere, these marches were accompanied by attacks and provocations of nationalists, obstacles imposed by the local police. But people fulfilled their duty of remembrance in front of the veterans of the Great Patriotic War, who presented them with the Great Victory.

It is difficult to say how much this effort is enough, but the Victory, obtained by incredible work and great blood, is not so easy to take from people. She will outlive the temporalists in power and history and will long remain in memory as a great feat, feasible for not every people ...
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    1. Andrey K
      Andrey K 10 May 2016 07: 45
      +13
      Dogs plague sick ...
      1. sherp2015
        sherp2015 10 May 2016 08: 10
        +4
        Quote: Andrey K
        Dogs plague sick ...

        Zionists, who sit in all the archives, registry offices codify and rewrite history in a favorable light for themselves
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      3. siberalt
        siberalt 10 May 2016 09: 12
        +16
        And what did our ambassador Pilyulkin do or is doing there? laughing By the way, he has bosses at the Foreign Ministry. Maybe it’s time to deal seriously with our teachers, such as the tough guys, brewers, svanidze, horny, lively and outright half-educated, who are in darkness. And you never know how they settled in the Higher School of Economics, the Russian State University for the Humanities and "pedah", created for the award of academic degrees for the loot of deputies who do not even have higher education throughout Moscow? Maybe it's time to get serious about our school of education, our medicine?
        1. dkflbvbh
          dkflbvbh 10 May 2016 13: 22
          +6
          Quote: siberalt
          sibiralt (7) Today, 09:12 ↑
          And what did our ambassador Pilyulkin do or is doing there? By the way, he has bosses in the Foreign Ministry. Maybe it’s time to seriously deal with your teachers such as topornin, brewers, Svanidze, beeps, lively and frank little children, which are dark.


          A plus...


          Quote: Finches
          Zyablitsov (3) Today, 08:24 ↑
          I just thought, why the hell should I worry about the people of Ukraine and their brain cancer?
          For 24 years Ukraine has only spoiled Russia, but we silently wiped it off ... maybe enough, even write about this non-country !? Two years after the coup, many copies were broken, I took Kiev twice a day, and some hot comrades reached the Oder ... and why? It’s not necessary to treat this people - either it will die like a nation, or recover ... Saying that Ukraine is able to create a semblance of the Third Reich and go on a war with us is ridiculous! Ukraine can only create manure! This is how the bridgehead can be used, but here it is necessary to speak not with Ukrainians, but with their owners!


          A plus...

          It's strange ... But for such seditious thoughts from the sofa party, only the minuses fly
          1. ver_
            ver_ 11 May 2016 04: 06
            +1
            ..yk liberals and nationalities are a separate caste of priests - these are the leaders of small uluses who "kept the whole World in obedience with the hooves of their very powerful skates to amazement and mares with which the iron horse does not stand nearby (tok-mo in the present tense they do not exist - not otherwise as all degenerated) .. They stand up for their exclusivity and with the zeal of maniacs sculpt cons to everyone who denies their exclusivity ..
      4. Oorfene Deuce
        Oorfene Deuce 10 May 2016 16: 52
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        Shameful nits ...
        But why squeal, who brought to such a situation? Why it happens? Well, "Roissia Vperde", quasipatriots have gone far ...
    2. Finches
      Finches 10 May 2016 08: 24
      +10
      I just thought, why the hell should I worry about the people of Ukraine and their brain cancer?
      For 24 years Ukraine has only spoiled Russia, but we silently wiped it off ... maybe enough, even write about this non-country !? Two years after the coup, many copies were broken, I took Kiev twice a day, and some hot comrades reached the Oder ... and why? It’s not necessary to treat this people - either it will die like a nation, or recover ... Saying that Ukraine is able to create a semblance of the Third Reich and go on a war with us is ridiculous! Ukraine can only create manure! This is how the bridgehead can be used, but here it is necessary to speak not with Ukrainians, but with their owners!

      Therefore, I didn’t care what was going on with them! I’d better really support Moldovans - they are already ill and we can speak with them respectfully!
      1. ver_
        ver_ 11 May 2016 04: 25
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        ..khokhly - a derivative of a Semitic and a Slav .. And they really are descendants of Christ .. The end of Christ's life was not ice - he was crucified on the cross like a robber by his own relatives for his "pious" deeds - he shed a lot of blood because of his " exclusivity ".. A crest without a stripe, that a" hole "without a plug is army humor ..
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  4. Furious bambr
    Furious bambr 10 May 2016 07: 06
    +6
    Nazi youngsters, even when they grow up, will remember what kind of holiday it is on May 9, it has been transmitted for years and will be passed on from generation to generation. And no matter how much hair they pulled out in causal places, the new power of Urkaina cannot change anything. Happy Victory Day !!!
  5. ovod84
    ovod84 10 May 2016 07: 23
    +11
    Stalin made such predictions: “Many of the affairs of our party and people will be perverted and spat upon, above all abroad, and in our country too.
    Zionism, striving for world domination, will cruelly avenge us for our successes and achievements.
    He still sees Russia as a barbaric country, as a raw materials appendage. And my name will also be defamed, slandered.
    Many crimes will be attributed to me.
    World Zionism will by all means strive to destroy our Union so that Russia can never rise again. The strength of the USSR lies in the friendship of peoples. The edge of the struggle will be directed, first of all, at breaking this friendship, at breaking off the outskirts from Russia.
    Here, I must admit, we have not done everything yet. There is still a big field of work.
    Nationalism will raise its head with particular force. He will crush internationalism and patriotism for a while, only for a while. National groups within nations and conflicts will arise.
    Many pygmy leaders will appear, traitors within their nations.
    In general, in the future development will go more difficult and even frantic ways, turns will be extremely steep. It goes to the fact that the East is especially excited. There will be sharp contradictions with the West.
    And yet, no matter how events develop, but time will pass, and the eyes of new generations will be turned to the affairs and victories of our socialist Fatherland. Year after year, new generations will come.
    They will once again raise the banner of their fathers and grandfathers and give us their due. They will build their future on our past. ”
    1. sherp2015
      sherp2015 10 May 2016 08: 13
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      Quote: ovod84
      Stalin made such predictions: “Many of the affairs of our party and people will be perverted and spat upon, above all abroad, and in our country too.
      Zionism, striving for world domination, will cruelly avenge us for our successes and achievements.
      He still sees Russia as a barbaric country, as a raw materials appendage. And my name will also be defamed, slandered.
      Many crimes will be attributed to me.
      World Zionism will by all means strive to destroy our Union so that Russia can never rise again. The strength of the USSR lies in the friendship of peoples. The edge of the struggle will be directed, first of all, at breaking this friendship, at breaking off the outskirts from Russia.
      Here, I must admit, we have not done everything yet. There is still a big field of work.
      Nationalism will raise its head with particular force. He will crush internationalism and patriotism for a while, only for a while. National groups within nations and conflicts will arise.
      Many pygmy leaders will appear, traitors within their nations.
      In general, in the future development will go more difficult and even frantic ways, turns will be extremely steep. It goes to the fact that the East is especially excited. There will be sharp contradictions with the West.
      And yet, no matter how events develop, but time will pass, and the eyes of new generations will be turned to the affairs and victories of our socialist Fatherland. Year after year, new generations will come.
      They will once again raise the banner of their fathers and grandfathers and give us their due. They will build their future on our past. ”


      How right you are!
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 10 May 2016 07: 28
    +5
    Few people managed to rewrite history .. to lie ... yes, but the truth still can not be concealed ..
    1. izya top
      izya top 10 May 2016 07: 39
      +3
      Quote: parusnik
      Few people managed to rewrite history .. to lie ... yes, but the truth still can not be concealed ..

      the main thing is that we ourselves remember, both our children and the children of our children. and so for 5 billion years
  7. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 10 May 2016 07: 39
    +4
    An embittered country with an extravagant leadership. There, a normal person should just ashamed live.
    1. Volga Cossack
      Volga Cossack 10 May 2016 08: 24
      +9
      It's a shame - the keyword !!!! I am in agreement !!!! Py- Syrs- Lord Dill - I’m a bit lower rating here- I don’t care !! I don’t like that I write on the Cossack, I distort words in his opinion. the second is against the fact that I was in the militia, nu-nu ......... you are not near the sofa !!!! The Lord will judge you !!!! I have the honor !!!! Volga Cossack!
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    3. aba
      aba 10 May 2016 08: 58
      +6
      There, a normal person should just be ashamed to live.

      You know, and after all, instead of heroes, instead of heroes on TV, they show all sorts of Houses, incomprehensible Shalyapins, who is not Chaliapin, from every corner shouting "Buy a house, an iPhone car!"
      And do not talk about HONOR, CONSCIENCE and DIGNITY. But the people have not lost their memory and many people know about these human qualities, which we are trying to convey to our children. But for some reason this does not concern our state and recalls this when it is simply IMPOSSIBLE to keep silent. Remember at least May 1! Happy Easter and all! And not a word about PEACE, LABOR and FRIENDSHIP! And I am also ashamed of this. Highly.
  8. Siberia M 54
    Siberia M 54 10 May 2016 08: 23
    +5
    In truth, when God wants to punish a person, he deprives him of his mind. But what would be on such a scale as Ukraine, in reality they messed up jambs. negative
  9. drop
    drop 10 May 2016 08: 30
    +6
    And not only Jesus Christ has roots from Ukrainians. Buddha on the mother’s side is also a crest. I have the honor.
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  11. Sars
    Sars 10 May 2016 08: 51
    +7
    And what history are our students taught at the Yeltsin Center?
  12. Evgen2x
    Evgen2x 10 May 2016 09: 12
    +2
    Country 404, can it be time to remove it from the discussions? but when I read about the ruin, sometimes it seems to me that the Maydanuty virus can also catch me on the head)
  13. freddyk
    freddyk 10 May 2016 11: 01
    +5
    And how many stocks we messed up in the 90s. And what did we do then to remove Yeltsin? We were just lucky that Putin appeared (see Yeltsin realized and was horrified before leaving for another world). So Ukraine is waiting. Will it wait?
  14. Egoza
    Egoza 10 May 2016 11: 03
    +2
    But the truth will break through! ALWAYS watch this video!
    http://oko-planet.su/politik/newsday/321519-molodec-muzhik-rubanul-pravdu-v-prya
    mom-efire-ko-dnyu-pobedy.html
    the peasant was not afraid and slashed to the horror of the hosts.
  15. Pyokhar
    Pyokhar 10 May 2016 11: 06
    +1
    It seems that the whole population of Ukraine simultaneously scored a hefty jamb.
  16. olegahl
    olegahl 10 May 2016 12: 47
    +1
    Quote: Andrey K
    Dogs plague sick ...

    More like rabies!
  17. Ros 56
    Ros 56 10 May 2016 13: 22
    0
    The rams are stupid, remember, history takes revenge very cruelly.
  18. black
    black 10 May 2016 13: 50
    +2
    All pre-holidays and even holidays, he was engaged in that in the Ukrainian social groups, which explained to them the impossibility of celebrating May 9 in Ukraine. In terms of their official history and ideology. He urgently demanded to stop congratulating the veterans of the Soviet army. In short, he had fun as best he could. I no longer see the point of persuading. Oh, I'll tell you ... Poor descendants of dill. Only one refused. He stated (just think) that he has HYBRID respect for his ancestors. Mutants damn it. Elite boar and quivering doe.
  19. Basil50
    Basil50 10 May 2016 14: 52
    +1
    It’s hard to read, the processes taking place in Ukraine are a reality, and there remains only the hope that they will nevertheless return to reason. We hope so. It is a pity that in Ukraine, the oligarchs seized power relying on the Nazis. It is a pity that all such people are equated with people and they recognize some kind of * rights *. The humane attitude to war criminals was hindered by various * excesses *, and today they are in power in countries that are under the protectorate of Anglo-Saxons, and again with Anglo-Saxon money.
  20. akudr48
    akudr48 10 May 2016 16: 02
    +1
    A few words about the past Victory Day

    1. Does anyone really think that Lev Gudkov appointed the doctors of philosophical sciences, the director of the analytical Levada Center and other tasty places to all of his sixes, where did he give the treacherous hoots from someone other than the presidential administration?

    2. These buzzes about how the world community celebrates Victory Day in a civilized manner, like a day of sorrow, because the entire Hitlerite European Union was not under the threat of complete destruction under the ax of the German executioner, who was helped, not out of fear, but for conscience, by Bendera and Baltic heroes of the firing squads. They do not know this and do not want to know that the Russian people fought with the other peoples of the USSR for the right to survive and live, raise children, continue their historical existence ...
    They don’t know, and the aforementioned Doctor of Philosophy knows, but he lies, he’s lying around, he’s cheating with his riddles and inventions, as the Russian people should correctly celebrate Victory Day so as not to celebrate anything at all.

    3. But the basis for beeps exists and creates it with its evasions of historical truth that power that we have, namely:

    - the mausoleum, to the base of which the banners of defeated Germany were thrown in 1945, was fenced off with plywood with painted flowers and birds, as if there were no Lenin in the history of the country, and the leaders themselves were seated on the side chairs in front of this disguised object of hatred of all liberal humanity, Well, if in order not to give reason to doubt where 1,5 trillion dollars went from Russia through offshore alone and continue to leave, so that they’ll only get as far from the mausoleum as possible, closer to the leader’s friends - pianists and cellists ...

    - Stalin was never mentioned by the current Supreme Commanders-in-Chief (there were 3 of them already) as the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Great Patriotic War, thereby paving the way for fantastic fiction, stories and tales of Gudkov’s friends from the same liberal Mlecino-Svanidze cup (which are also fed from the administration of the same our President) that he won (whom is also not said) a certain abstract soldier with a three-ruler who had to fight against Hitler and Stalin (and it is not known who was harder against)

    - it doesn’t say now that the Soviet people won the war against Nazi Germany, and that means the Russian people and Belarusians, Ukrainians, Kazakhs, Uzbeks and all other peoples of then-united Russia in the format of the USSR, again referring to abstract soldiers of unknown origin who have won. It is not clear who won (even if without Stalin), but it is neither Russian, nor Ukrainian, nor Kazakh, nor grandson of the Kalmyk steppes ...
    It's a shame. Perhaps that is why only one very wise Nazarbayev came to the parade, habitually skipping empty words ...

    - as regards the military allies, the USA, England, Canada, other countries that also participated in the war and also perished, for example, in the Arctic convoys, then, depending on the situation, the Commander-in-Chief recalls it, it skips, believing that if in Since the people are ordered to consider the State Department and Browder as the main threat, it is not necessary to mention PQ-17.
    But if sanctions are lifted from us, then let’s say about them.

    4. Therefore, let it not surprise the percentage of 50%, 60% or 80% of those in the West who believe that Hitler Roosevelt defeated with Truman who joined him, who, after Stalin dropped the atomic bomb on Japan, finally won in Europe , and Stalin with Genghis Khan who joined him ...

    Whoever is ready to distort his story himself will be rewritten in the most terrible way.
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  22. wow
    wow 10 May 2016 18: 37
    +1
    The reckoning will be terrible for those who rewrite.
  23. iouris
    iouris 10 May 2016 21: 08
    +3
    You cannot rewrite history. Ukraine, as a state, is not a participant in the Second World War and the Great Patriotic War. Ukraine and the Russian Federation are private results of the collapse of the USSR, but the Russian Federation is the legal successor of the USSR and its debts. The state of Ukraine is the assignee and the heir of nothing.
  24. ver_
    ver_ 11 May 2016 04: 38
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    Quote: parusnik
    Few people managed to rewrite history .. to lie ... yes, but the truth still can not be concealed ..

    History has been rewritten from the beginning of centuries .. History is not a science. Each Lord rewrote the history of his ulus, borrowing the deeds and victories of other nations .. And many of the most ancient states turned out to be antique fakes .. with fake history ..
  25. the47th
    the47th 11 May 2016 16: 16
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    Ukrainian Michael Strenk

    The first Google link leads to Pedivikia, where it is written in black and white that Srenk is from Czechoslovakia. But in / in Ukraine it is not accepted to verify information.