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USC has not yet received an order for the construction of the ISCs of the 22800 project - the carrier of the Caliber missile

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The enterprises of the United Shipbuilding Corporation have not yet received orders from the Ministry of Defense for the construction of 22800 missile ships, leads MIC the words of the vice-president of the corporation Igor Ponomarev.




“There have not yet been any concrete proposals from the Ministry of Defense,” said Ponomarev, answering the corresponding question from journalists.

"The order for the construction of part of the ships has already entered the shipyard Pella (St. Petersburg), which is not part of USC," he said.

“More orders are expected in the future. We are potentially considering sites for the construction of these ships at USC factories. However, no specific proposals have been received from the Ministry of Defense, ”Ponomarev added.

"Perhaps they will be designated in the draft State Defense Order (GOZ) 2017 of the year, and maybe in the proof of the GOZ 2016 of the year," - suggested the deputy head of the corporation.

Earlier it was reported about the plans of the Ministry of Defense to order a total of 19 ISCs of 22800 Ave.

The first two ships were laid at 2015 at the Pella plant, another one will be laid at 10 in May in Feodosia (the More plant).

It is assumed that the entire "Pella" will build 7 rocket ships of the specified project.

Help "MIC": “MRK of the 22800 project developed by the TsMKB Almaz have a displacement of about 800 tons, and the speed is over 30 nodes. They are equipped with a high-precision rocket complex. weapons and modern artillery. Among the advantages of the project ships are high maneuverability, increased seaworthiness, as well as architecture of superstructures and hulls, made according to technologies of low reflectivity. The ship will be able to perform tasks in the offshore zone at a distance from the bases about 3000 miles. ”
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  1. lelikas
    lelikas 7 May 2016 11: 26
    +15
    7 - Pelle, the rest in the Crimea, USC - frigates and corvettes. Everything is simple.
    1. Andrey K
      Andrey K 7 May 2016 12: 10
      +11
      USC has not yet received an order for the construction of the ISCs of the 22800 project - the carrier of the Caliber missile - You can’t grasp the immensity, USC wants to tie all orders to itself, but they will pull it or not, they don’t even voice it.
      You are absolutely right. Project 22800 missile ships are already under construction, orders are placed. Everyone should do their own thing, if the competence of manufacturers is enough, why bother with a garden.
      1. cniza
        cniza 7 May 2016 12: 22
        +6
        "Perhaps they will be designated in the draft State Defense Order (GOZ) 2017 of the year, and maybe in the proof of the GOZ 2016 of the year," - suggested the deputy head of the corporation.


        Such information cannot be made publicly available, so vague answers are right.
        1. VALERIK_097
          VALERIK_097 7 May 2016 14: 57
          +2
          cniza RU Today, 12:22 ↑
          I completely agree with you. Sometimes, such calculations are given in VO that sometimes you think about where our competent authorities are looking.
          And information usually comes from people who have access to stamped documents.
          1. adept666
            adept666 7 May 2016 17: 05
            +3
            I completely agree with you. Sometimes, such calculations are given in VO that sometimes you think about where our competent authorities are looking.
            You won't please you laughing If there is only water in the article, why did the author smear it warm on the soft? If the calculations - where are the bodies looking? wassat laughing
  2. Dam
    Dam 7 May 2016 11: 27
    0
    What is the difference, USC or Pella, the main thing is to put more ships into operation before hour X, which is just around the corner
    1. Dryuya2
      Dryuya2 7 May 2016 11: 52
      +5
      offtopic winked
      interesting video
      Syrian scenario in Russia. Part 1. Threat. Conversation at VSK "Reserve"
      1. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 7 May 2016 12: 16
        +2
        Quote: Dryuya2
        Part 1. Threat. Conversation at VSK "Reserve"

        and who is interested in part 2
        Syrian scenario in Russia. Part 2. "What to do?" Conversation at VSK "Reserve"
    2. Ride78
      Ride78 7 May 2016 12: 08
      -10%
      The sense of these ships against the NATO fleet is zero integers, zero hundredths. Shot somewhere there 8 th Caliber? Sense of 8 mi calibers? Without hatred, answer yourself what even 80 calibers will do against Nato?) Well, if you only hit the nuclear power plant. But due to the lack of records of caliber hits in Syria, they fly like axes, some fall somewhere there, several kilometers)
      1. musorg
        musorg 7 May 2016 12: 24
        +1
        Strategist with an independent?
        1. Ride78
          Ride78 7 May 2016 12: 34
          +3
          Anyone who is not happy about the descent of such boats here - from an independent one? Normal move. So you can blame everyone.
          Or am I, like others, glad that there are no normal frigates, and destroyers are out there somewhere in the bright future?)
          1. Botanologist
            Botanologist 7 May 2016 13: 02
            0
            Quote: Ride78
            Anyone who is not happy about the descent of such boats here - from an independent one?

            Do you propose to immediately lay the Death Star? Small ship - the most popular in the fleets. For chasing an atomic cruiser to fight against pirates for lack of normal patrol corals is the height of stupidity. And if each of the fleets (well, except for the Caspian one) will have 6 patrol and 6 RTOs in the composition, then very necessary frigates will do what they should do - exercises, combat duty, and a flag demonstration.
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            2. lis-ik
              lis-ik 7 May 2016 19: 04
              +1
              It seems that you are saying everything correctly, but for God's sake what kind of "pirates" threaten Russia, and those that are actually available with a mosquito fleet cannot be drowned.
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          3. just exp
            just exp 7 May 2016 13: 49
            -4
            Svidomo would you go to the censor, they will tell you that the calibers are generally useless. and headquarters, communications centers, clusters of troops, etc., can only destroy states with lionfish. and the northern barbarians are not capable of this because their CDs are not democratic.
          4. hrych
            hrych 7 May 2016 14: 17
            +4
            Quote: Ride78
            Sense of 8 calibers? Without hatred, answer yourself what even 80 calibers will do against Nato?) Well, if only to beat at nuclear power plants.

            First, the combat power of the Russian Federation is not limited to "Calibers".
            Secondly, a revolutionary breakthrough in the fleet, when small rocket ships and diesel submarines, i.e. in fact, cheap (relative to ships in the far zone), both during construction and maintenance, the "maskite" fleet has turned into a strategic one, since it is capable of destroying targets thousands of kilometers away while also under the cover of coastal complexes, both air defense and anti-ship ...
            Third, 80 Caliber with a special warhead can burn laughing 80 NATO megalopolis. That is what they can.
            Also, these missiles themselves and their carriers are actually not the most important, albeit integral part of the system, and most importantly, it is the GLONASS constellation, consisting of 24 deployed satellites, as a result of which the racket hits the target precisely with its coordinates and its exact positioning. The space system was deployed to a combat condition only in 2015 and literally demonstrated in Syria. You do not think that such an expensive and complex space constellation is deployed for navigators for negligent drivers of vehicles laughing GLONASS and Caliber (and similar KRs) with RTOs and diesels simply allow us to make an asymmetric response to the NATO fleet an order of magnitude cheaper, faster and more efficient, no more and no less.
          5. avt
            avt 7 May 2016 18: 36
            +2
            Quote: musorg
            Strategist with an independent?

            No.
            Quote: Ride78
            Anyone who is not happy about the descent of such boats here - from an independent one? Normal move

            Maybe his homegrown victim EG swamp-pipe them. Makarevich: He knows nothing, he has not heard anything, but he judges everything with an aplomb of the intellectual, as a last resort without appeal.
            Quote: Botanologist
            Do you propose to immediately lay the Death Star?

            No. He offers to listen to him more carefully and to admire the depth of the ehomoskovskogo retold stamp. One hundred pounds listener opus Latynina.
      2. 11 black
        11 black 7 May 2016 12: 25
        0
        Quote: Ride78
        The sense of these ships against the NATO fleet is zero integers, zero hundredths. Shot somewhere there 8 th Caliber? Sense of 8 mi calibers? Without hatred, answer yourself what even 80 calibers will do against Nato?) Well, if you only hit the nuclear power plant. But due to the lack of records of caliber hits in Syria, they fly like axes, some fall somewhere there, several kilometers)

        Chastity. Here is the proof of the high precision of the Caliber.


        And nobody is going to use these ships against the NATO fleet - there are other forces and means for this. And this is so - to smash terrorists and the Balts and the Turks with dill to keep in good shape - this also needs to be done.

        By the way, the picture is not 22800 at all, but the MRK of the Scorpion project. 22800 here, at least from what is known now:
        1. Ride78
          Ride78 7 May 2016 12: 29
          -3
          Not, if there is, then I'm even glad. At least something. Unless, of course, these are precisely Caliber.
          But to rejoice at the descent of such a trifle, as if the destroyer had been lowered, or at least the frigate was already too much. It becomes sad.
          In addition, 90% here clearly realize that without nuclear weapons there are no options. And this is also sad, the same NATOs are going to imagine themselves without nuclear weapons if that. I didn’t hear that the United States was screaming if something, we would destroy everything.
          1. lelikas
            lelikas 7 May 2016 13: 06
            +1
            Quote: Ride78
            I didn’t hear that the United States was screaming if something, we would destroy everything.

            Why should they scream? They are back in the 10th year, adopted the concept of its application and are not worried. In a nutshell - priorities for missile defense, containment and a preventive global strike, but at the same time - nuclear weapons aimed at specific goals with the possibility of application in any case. Reducing the arsenal of nuclear weapons by warehousing is generally a song.
            While we are destroying ....
          2. avt
            avt 7 May 2016 16: 31
            0
            Quote: Ride78
            In addition, 90% here clearly realize that without nuclear weapons there are no options. And this is also sad, the same NATOs are going to imagine themselves without nuclear weapons if that. I didn’t hear that the United States was screaming if something, we would destroy everything.

            laughing a victim of EG? Or a frequenter of the PND, or "swamp hangouts"? Well, actually the same thing.
            Quote: Ride78
            . And this is also sad, the same NATOs are going to imagine themselves without nuclear weapons if that.

            When fool he will let go and the doctor will write a note, then how Boryusik Nadezhdin at least go to Wikipedia and look for the NATO structure and the nuclear planning group in particular.
            Quote: Ride78
            I didn’t hear that the United States was screaming if something, we would destroy everything.

            This is bya-ah-ah. This is immediately to the ophthalmologist and specialist who is referred to as a common doctor, an ear, nose and throat (see Wikipedia, otolaryngologist). Since recently, the concept of delivering a preventive strike was considered by the US Joint Chiefs of Staff.
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        3. Botanologist
          Botanologist 7 May 2016 13: 11
          +2
          Quote: 11 black
          By the way, the picture is not 22800 at all, but the MRK of the Scorpion project. 22800 here, at least from what is known now:


          And you and 20386 did not confuse?
        4. donavi49
          donavi49 7 May 2016 13: 29
          +3
          No, everything was mixed up.

          In the picture there is an old scorpion, which has been tortured since the 90's.
          In your picture, the new 20386 corvette.
          Laid on the Pella and will be laid on the Sea 22800 with UKSK-8 and 2 AK-630M (on the models of Diamond there is a Broadsword, but it can be seen expensively).
          1. Wiruz
            Wiruz 7 May 2016 15: 06
            0
            on the models of Diamond there is Broadsword, but it’s expensive

            It seems to me (or rather I hope) that it is not a matter of price, but of the unpreparedness of Shell-M. I think that it will be put on subsequent ships. The Vedas understand that a pair of anti-aircraft guns will not provide proper air defense. But Shell-M, and besides with hypersonic anti-aircraft missiles, this is serious winked
        5. Wiruz
          Wiruz 7 May 2016 14: 59
          0
          By the way, the picture is not 22800 at all, but the MRK of the Scorpion project. 22800 here, at least from what is known now:

          What you presented is a corvette pr.20386. Well, at least he was represented like that at the exhibition (s). MRK pr.22800 (it is a sin not to know) looks like this:
        6. alexmach
          alexmach 7 May 2016 23: 49
          0
          By the way, the picture is not 22800 at all, but the MRK of the Scorpion project. 22800 here, at least from what is known now:


          And This is also not 22800, where does the RTO come from, and where are its calibers? this is a quick variation on the theme of 22160
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 May 2016 11: 32
    +2
    Competition, however. Most likely a necessity. Any monopoly leads to overpricing, which is by no means useful to our budget.
  4. avvg
    avvg 7 May 2016 11: 35
    +1
    In my opinion, it still depends on funding, we hope that there will be no disruptions.
    1. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 7 May 2016 12: 41
      0
      Quote: avvg
      , we hope that there will be no disruptions.

      I would like to, but where in the current situation will you get away from them; Ukraine, Syria, sanctions, falling oil and gas prices, the need to invest in the infrastructure of the country as a whole and the Crimea in particular, and import substitution, in the same defense industry and agriculture, also require not small money. And where to get them? So far, they have only thought up to reducing the salaries of state employees by 33%, (about my sphere and myself I say) food prices doubled, and constantly raise the price of fuel. Nothing better, our government lacks the brains, unfortunately.
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  5. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 7 May 2016 11: 38
    0
    At least five years earlier, to begin re-equipment and modernization, and even bypassing the period and the consequences of Serdyukovism.
  6. The Little Humpbacked Horse
    The Little Humpbacked Horse 7 May 2016 11: 41
    0
    Why on the portholes add-ons made a bias back, while it is more reasonable and practical to make a bias forward
  7. Tusv
    Tusv 7 May 2016 11: 45
    +3
    up to hour X

    Bringing the world clock to the Che hour is not acceptable. There are no inhabited planets in the area.
  8. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 7 May 2016 11: 47
    0
    The state bins emptied.
    All funds migrated into the pockets of the huckster oligarchs.
    1. Ride78
      Ride78 7 May 2016 12: 10
      -1
      Every year they steal from the budget for 1000 T-50, and they talk how much to launch 6 or 12?))
  9. Ride78
    Ride78 7 May 2016 12: 32
    +1
    urapatrioty they are all stupid. They shout - let’s Stalin, and minus the posts about the fact that due to the fact that our budget is being stolen) you’ll decide whether to plant thieves and have a strong army, or applaud single deliveries that do not solve anything.
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 7 May 2016 13: 57
      0
      Quote: Ride78
      You already decide - either plant thieves and have a strong army, or applaud single deliveries that do not solve anything.

      As one of my friends, a dead man, said
      "Tell me, do we need this? Most will say no! Most will choose butter over guns."
      1. KaPToC
        KaPToC 7 May 2016 19: 15
        0
        Those who choose oil are left without oil and without guns.
    2. avt
      avt 7 May 2016 18: 30
      0
      Quote: Ride78
      urapatrioty they are all stupid.

      Well, judging by
      Quote: Ride78
      those same NATO are going to themselves quite without nuclear weapons if that. I didn’t hear that the United States was screaming if something, we would destroy everything.

      Directly a new scenario for the continuation of the Hollywood film, "Dumb, even dumber". Especially if you take into account that I have not heard at all THAT USA recently "shouted" about the deployment of its modernized nuclear weapons in Germany. Continue to compete with uryakalka
      Quote: Ride78
      urapatrioty they are stupid all

      The right way to go around them.
  10. weksha50
    weksha50 7 May 2016 12: 46
    +1
    Logically, it is better to transfer part of the orders for construction in the Crimea ...

    Maybe they will see now whether the Crimeans will be able to master and build on time the first "swallow" handed over to them ...

    And money ... Money will be found if the newly returned "financial dictator" Kudrin, who is an ardent opponent of financing the country's defense, does not put a stick in his wheel ...
  11. g1v2
    g1v2 7 May 2016 13: 59
    +2
    When there were excess profits from oil, the fleet was not even in the top ten problems. Now the turn of problems has moved and the fleet has moved to the top five perhaps. request When you make repairs in the house, you usually do not start from the balcony. Sevmash, by the way, is also being modernized. And the star in the Far East was not rebuilt for military construction. There, the main goal is to stop buying tankers and gas carriers abroad. Now Sabetta is in full swing. More than $ 12 billion was spent on this port and its associated cluster. Gas carriers for him and other vessels are huge orders, which justified the construction of the Star. Too much money over the hill used to go. Accordingly, in order to provide themselves with the necessary vessels, the super shipyard also wandered off. Gas carriers, dry cargo ships. tankers and lighters. Not warships.
    Especially for the coming decades, the Far East is a priority. They will lure the people there in every way, but for the people to go, production is needed. Therefore, a tor was created there and actively attracting neighboring investors. Plus, they are building the Bureyskaya hydroelectric station, building up the Ust-Srednekansky hydroelectric station to provide the Far East with the necessary electricity. The floating nuclear power plant Akademik Lomonosov will also go to the Far East (TO CHUKOTKA). There will be much more to be built there in the coming years. The main thing is that the people have enough for everything. And then you have to send exiles there or bring Koreans. Kim has nowhere to put them. laughing
  12. synodontis
    synodontis 7 May 2016 15: 07
    +4
    Russia is building 500 ton ships of rank 3 because it knows how to make engines for them. How to learn how to make large engines - they will build large ships.
  13. atamankko
    atamankko 7 May 2016 17: 52
    +1
    Everything has its time.
  14. Zomanus
    Zomanus 7 May 2016 18: 03
    0
    Interestingly, what about the engines for these ships?
    But on the account of who will do what, it is not for us to decide.
    Maybe the OSK will be put under another project.
  15. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 7 May 2016 21: 48
    +1
    Putin is rightly afraid of falling into the "Reagan trap": economic collapse as a result
    peaceful arms race with the USA.
    Therefore, they switched to the construction of a mosquito missile fleet. And while the economy is not
    come out of the crisis, major projects, I think, will not. Well, if you have enough money to bring
    before the acceptance of ships already under construction.
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 7 May 2016 22: 07
      0
      Large projects will be from the end of the decade. Do not worry about our economy. About 70 large projects (costing more than $ 100 million each) are simultaneously being implemented in the country, while 200 tons of gold were bought over the past year. I think when you do not have money you do not buy gold. wink It’s just that for now there’s nothing to build from large surface ships — both of the projects planned in the state order — the destroyer leader and udk are not yet ready. request And the shipyards are not yet ready to build them. I think that they will prepare for the year 2018-19. And before that, an auxiliary fleet and a defensive fleet are being built - only about 40 auxiliary ships are being built at a time. The shipbuilding program is large-scale. And finally, the new contracted patrols 23550 technically are ships of the first rank. wink Displacement is like that of the Sarychs.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 8 May 2016 10: 47
        0
        "I think when you have no money you don’t buy gold" ////

        No connection. fellow There is not a single golden thing on Abramovich,
        and any poor Indian woman
        chain, but there is. The status of the poor.
        Canada recently sold its gold stock: they say
        pointless to keep, one loss.