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Sergei Shoigu: “Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union N.G. Kuznetsov "should be ready for testing until July 1

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The next selector meeting with the leadership of the Armed Forces took place at the National Center of Defense yesterday, the press service reported. Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.


Sergei Shoigu: “Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union N.G. Kuznetsov "should be ready for testing until July 1


“Three main issues related to the arrangement of military units and formations of the Western and Southern military districts, the course of tests of the frigate Admiral, were submitted for discussion by the Minister of Defense Fleet Soviet Union S.G. Gorshkov ", training heavy aircraft carrier" Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union N.G. Kuznetsov "to solve the tasks of military service," the release said.

Shoigu once again stressed that "the Ministry of Defense is taking a series of measures to counter the buildup of NATO forces in close proximity to Russian borders."

“In this regard, by the end of the year, two new divisions will be formed in the Western Military District, one in the Southern Military District. Arrangement of places of deployment of these compounds is currently underway, ”he said.

The minister recalled that earlier he had “instructed to use the most advanced construction solutions in the construction of objects,” such as block-modular structures. They allow you to build a building in 3's - 4 weeks. “At the same time, if necessary, it can be quickly disassembled and moved to a new location,” he noted.

The second question concerned the construction of frigates project 22350.

“Six of these ships should be part of the Navy by 2025 year. They will be equipped with modern weapons and the latest controls. Currently, the lead frigate of the Admiral Gorshkov series is being tested in the Northern Fleet "
said Shoigu.

Special attention was paid to the preparation for combat service of the aircraft-carrying cruiser “Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union N.G. Kuznetsov.

"By July 1, 2016, the ship should be ready for testing aircraft and helicopters, which will be based on the cruiser",
The Minister has set the task.

Touching on the theme of the celebration of the 71 anniversary of the Victory, Shoigu stressed: "You need to make every effort to hold celebrations at the traditionally high level."
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  1. dsm100
    dsm100 5 May 2016 09: 59
    +11
    Here it is always like this, first we "break" then "build" this is me about the disbandment and closure of military camps and the reduction of military personnel, and now we will re-create.
    1. Wild_grey_wolf
      Wild_grey_wolf 5 May 2016 10: 04
      +2
      A vicious circle turns out, we are forced to form new units on their territory, they forget about their actions that forced us, they begin to repeat about aggression and everything in a circle. . . this is a song without a beginning, we start from the beginning. . . not to develop together and send further American Partners. . .
      1. DMB_95
        DMB_95 5 May 2016 10: 28
        +14
        Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
        . . . not to develop together and send further American Partners. . .

        With whom? With Europeans and their "democratic values"? No, thanks. We have already tried and we know how easily these "developed" people know how to betray those who more than once saved them from death at the cost of their lives. Better to have an open enemy than such "friends".
        1. cniza
          cniza 5 May 2016 10: 51
          +8
          We could succeed with the Germans, but for the United States it would mean complete collapse and they would lay their bones to prevent this alliance, as, indeed, England.
        2. Wild_grey_wolf
          Wild_grey_wolf 5 May 2016 12: 34
          +1
          Quote: DMB_95
          Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
          . . . not to develop together and send further American Partners. . .

          With whom? With Europeans and their "democratic values"? No, thanks. We have already tried and we know how easily these "developed" people know how to betray those who more than once saved them from death at the cost of their lives. Better to have an open enemy than such "friends".


          And who is talking about kissing the gums. . . to develop together in a peaceful manner, good neighborly. . . sending on further Amerikosov. . . and let them live with their values. And we with ours. What problems ? The main thing is without partners from a distant continent.
          1. DMB_95
            DMB_95 5 May 2016 13: 53
            0
            "What problems ?" For them - "send the Americans away", for us - not to die of old age until they decide to do so. Or laughing at how they will do it.
      2. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 5 May 2016 10: 32
        +13
        Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
        not to develop together and send further American Partners


        To develop together, you first need to have something in common, well, at least psychologically, or something. What do we have in common with the French or the Spaniards, and even more so with the British and other miserables such as Poles and Latvians - well, I don’t see any coincidence in details. These are just sick people, the psychosis is Russophobian, and moreover it is increasing. Europeans, damn it. They would reread at least their Remarque, refresh the memory, not, up to 1 GB, that memory still falls short. But in Russia, Remarque is highly respected, because it’s true.
        1. Wild_grey_wolf
          Wild_grey_wolf 5 May 2016 12: 39
          +1
          Quote: iliitch
          Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
          not to develop together and send further American Partners


          To develop together, you first need to have something in common, well, at least psychologically, or something. What do we have in common with the French or the Spaniards, and even more so with the British and other miserables such as Poles and Latvians - well, I don’t see any coincidence in details. These are just sick people, the psychosis is Russophobian, and moreover it is increasing. Europeans, damn it. They would reread at least their Remarque, refresh the memory, not, up to 1 GB, that memory still falls short. But in Russia, Remarque is highly respected, because it’s true.


          Not well, but in life yapping near you is great to have? Develop without looking through the barrel of the Machine. . . What's bad about it. And to evaluate the whole world by Politicians who dress like Women of Easy virtue is also a fallacy. . . there are more adequate people and they are not to blame, and adequate people are behaving QUIETly because of this, such people are not so audible. . . and smelling garbage can be removed.
      3. 73bor
        73bor 5 May 2016 14: 02
        0
        It's simple, until the hail get it, they calm down!
    2. lelikas
      lelikas 5 May 2016 10: 04
      +3
      “By July 2016, XNUMX, the ship should be ready for testing aircraft and helicopters, which will be based on the cruiser,” the minister set the task.
      Two weeks ago, the end of restoration work, was postponed to the fall, like a trip to the Mediterranean, but -
      - "The party said: we must! The Komsomol answered: yes!" , and after the campaign - again for repairs, this time, already major.
    3. oborzevatel
      oborzevatel 5 May 2016 10: 09
      +1
      “In this regard, before the end of the year, two new divisions will be formed in the Western Military District, one in the Southern Military District. Arrangements are being made for the locations of these compounds. ”

      Wangyu in the Western Military District - Insterburg and Moscow - Minsk brigades will again be deployed in the division (Kaliningrad region). Fortunately, there is still that, from the old infrastructure, to equip and put in order.
      In SEE - I can’t assume anything.
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 5 May 2016 14: 41
        +1
        Quote: oborzevatel
        Wangyu in the Western Military District - Insterburg and Moscow - Minsk brigades will again be deployed in the division (Kaliningrad region). Fortunately, there is still that, from the old infrastructure, to equip and put in order.
        In SEE - I can’t assume anything.

        Why Vangan? I'll tell you everything smile
        One division in Voronezh, one in the Smolensk region-ZVO. Rostov Region-Southeast Military District.
        The general point is to cover the direction with Ukraine.
        1. oborzevatel
          oborzevatel 5 May 2016 17: 07
          0
          Quote: Odyssey
          The general point is to cover the direction with Ukraine.

          But do not need to cover the direction with Poland and the Baltic Limitrophs?
          Or do you think that the current state of the Kaliningrad group allows this to be done? Given the alleged deployment of NATO forces on their territory?
          1. Odysseus
            Odysseus 5 May 2016 18: 42
            +1
            Quote: oborzevatel
            But do not need to cover the direction with Poland and the Baltic Limitrophs?

            Sorry, but I am not the chief of the General Staff, and I do not determine where we should deploy the divisions. So the questions are not addressed.
            IMHO, the direction with Poland is covered by Belarus, but the division in Yelnya (Smolensk region) will insure the Polish direction as well.
            Quote: oborzevatel
            Or do you think that the current state of the Kaliningrad group allows this to be done? Given the alleged deployment of NATO forces on their territory?

            The Baltic puppets have no troops. The hypothetical deployment of NATO troops in the amount of 4 battalions is unlikely to pose a serious threat to Kaliningrad. I recall there are 3 of our brigades plus missile, artillery, etc.
      2. Roman 11
        Roman 11 5 May 2016 16: 14
        -1
        Quote: oborzevatel
        Fortunately, there is still that, from the old infrastructure, to equip and put in order.

        Königsberg Forts?
        1. oborzevatel
          oborzevatel 5 May 2016 16: 36
          0
          And then forts?
          To restore what has not yet been broken after the previous reorganization.
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    5. siberalt
      siberalt 5 May 2016 10: 19
      +2
      And what, before that there was no plan (schedule) for repair work? Do not pass on time - to demolish or to expel the fuck all who have not fulfilled. Maybe the army needs it?
      1. Roman 11
        Roman 11 5 May 2016 16: 19
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        And what, before that there was no plan (schedule) for repair work?

        And who forbade the generals to cut loot? Have you seen such a decree? Exactly, no one has seen. laughing
    6. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 5 May 2016 11: 26
      +1
      And the main thing is that nothing will happen for this (in the sense of breaking) .. Taburetkins and others like them are alive and well, even shine .. They were going to judge the elderly Pinochet, but we still give advice from those tagged ..
      Quote: dsm100
      Here it is always like this, first we "break" then "build" this is me about the disbandment and closure of military camps and the reduction of military personnel, and now we will re-create.
    7. Homo
      Homo 5 May 2016 12: 05
      -1
      Quote: dsm100
      Here it is always like this, first we "break" then "build" this is me about the disbandment and closure of military camps and the reduction of military personnel, and now we will re-create.

      Not tired of repeating what was said 1000 times? You can still recall the Petrine reforms, the Soviet (1917-1918 years)! sad
    8. GSH-18
      GSH-18 5 May 2016 14: 45
      -1
      Special attention was paid to the preparation for combat service of the aircraft-carrying cruiser “Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union N.G. Kuznetsov.

      “By July 2016, XNUMX, the ship should be ready for testing aircraft and helicopters, which will be based on the cruiser”

      Voooot! And I said that we can’t do without deck aviation. And that means we will have aircraft carriers too. good
      1. Roman 11
        Roman 11 5 May 2016 16: 24
        -1
        Quote: GSH-18
        And that means we will have aircraft carriers too.

        On this for another 50 years they will cut the loot, so that new in the next life .... you have to be realistic, it's better ... unfortunately.
    9. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 5 May 2016 17: 40
      0
      Quote: dsm100
      Here it is always like this, first we "break" then "build" this is me about the disbandment and closure of military camps and the reduction of military personnel, and now we will re-create.

      and how many he destroyed the Serdyukov-heroic heroes, there are few airdromes and shooting schools ...
  2. Volksib
    Volksib 5 May 2016 09: 59
    +3
    Military developments have always been a locomotive of science and technology, then smoothly migrated to civilian life. Advanced technologies in the construction of infrastructure for the deployment of military units are a big step towards increasing the mobility of the Armed Forces. If we can quickly deploy divisions to new duty stations, this will be a HUGE step. Experience Syria is good in this regard. Russia cannot afford an arms race. The emphasis is on the mobility of troops.
  3. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 5 May 2016 10: 06
    +1
    The NATO offspring does not allow to relax.
  4. Andrey K
    Andrey K 5 May 2016 10: 06
    +7
    “Six of these ships should enter the Navy by 2025. They will be equipped with modern weapons and the latest controls. At present, the lead frigate of the Admiral Gorshkov series is being tested at the Northern Fleet "...
    It would be nice to have a couple of these on the Black Sea, so that the darlings of the great united Black Sea fleets of NATO countries calm down ...
    1. pigkiller
      pigkiller 5 May 2016 10: 41
      0
      The timing of the commissioning of new ships is alarming.
      1. Dimon19661
        Dimon19661 5 May 2016 10: 52
        +3
        Nine years to build six frigates, I don’t even know what to call it. It’s simply incomprehensible to the mind (And as I understand it, an optimistic forecast (
        1. Roman 11
          Roman 11 5 May 2016 16: 31
          -1
          Quote: Dimon19661
          Nine years to build six frigates, I don’t even know what to call it. It’s simply incomprehensible to the mind (And as I understand it, an optimistic forecast (

          Can you imagine how many years the aircraft carrier will be built ?? This will be the largest money sawmill in the world, the main thing is to approach the problem creatively, with a twinkle laughing
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  5. NEXUS
    NEXUS 5 May 2016 10: 51
    +3
    One thing is clear: we need new modern shipyards, docks, factories for the production of warships of different tonnages. And of course, workers, especially of simple professions: crane operators, welders, slingers, turners, etc. ... and with this we have very bad.6 ships to 25 years ... it is very small. It is clear that there is still modernization, repair of the old fleet of ships and boats, but we need new ships and a lot, as the main backbone of our fleets is the ships built by the Union.
    1. Roman 11
      Roman 11 5 May 2016 17: 22
      -1
      Quote: NEXUS
      And certainly workers, especially of simple professions: crane operators, welders, slinger
  6. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 5 May 2016 11: 16
    +3
    Quote: eugeniy.369
    Quote: Andrey K
    “Six of these ships should be part of the Navy by 2025.

    Not so simple, they should have passed by 2020
    A series of six frigates of project 22350 is to become part of the Russian Navy until 2025. This was during a conference call by Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu. The current state armament program provided for the delivery of eight ships of this type to the fleet by the end of 2020.

    The reason is in power plants.

    The completion of subsequent ships of the series is difficult due to the breakdown of military-technical cooperation with Ukraine, where the Zorya-Mashproekt plant is located ... the postponement of the construction of the series by five years is mainly explained by the need to localize the production of gas turbines in Russia. “Until 2020, it will be possible to commission Gorshkov and one more, maybe two ships. For the rest, new installations of completely Russian production are needed, and its establishment will take a lot of time ", - said the interlocutor.

    And with project 11365 problems
    Earlier, the Russian Navy was forced to reduce the volume of the order for the construction of Project 11356 frigates from six to three units due to Ukraine’s refusal to supply power plants for new Russian ships. Two frigates of this project under construction and another one planned for construction, for which the Zorya-Mashproekt production units did not have time to purchase, can be sold to India, which in this case will also act as a buyer of Ukrainian-made gas turbines.

    It was originally planned to build 9 Project 22350 frigates by 2020. Then this figure was reduced to 8 units. And now we see a shift in terms to the right by 5 years and the construction of only 6 units. And they broadcast about it from the high rostrum, presenting it as a win. And it seems to me that it’s zrada. The same "Gorshkov" was promised to be delivered in 2009. As I remember now, the director of the enterprise "kicked himself in the chest with his heel," "tore the hair on his chest," "he swore by his mother." It's already 2016 in the yard, and the ship is still not in service. And if everything went according to plan, then by 2014 the fleet should have included 4-5 ships of this type, plus a power plant for a couple of such ships. Under Stalin, such "leaders" would have been shot in packs, but in our country the Taburetkins are sent for promotion, and not on the electric chair.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 5 May 2016 11: 35
      +1
      Quote: VohaAhov
      Under Stalin, such "leaders" would have been shot in packs, but here the Taburetkins are sent for promotion, not to the electric chair.

      Under Stalin, the director of the plant, who was engaged in postscripts, sending tanks to the army that did not meet the requirements of the army, and hammering a bolt on all the requirements of the army for fine-tuning cars, became the Hero of Socialist Labor and the people's commissar.
      And the director of another defense plant, who failed the plan and drove the marriage, was removed from office and appointed ... director of the same factory in another city.

      Yes, by the way, since when has the Minister of Defense been responsible for the inability of industry to turn in ships on time?
      Taburetkin, by the way, did everything possible to ensure that the fleet received at least some new frigates - by ordering, along with the problematic 22350, already mastered by the industry 11356.
      1. Dimon19661
        Dimon19661 5 May 2016 11: 54
        0
        And for some reason everyone thinks that we didn’t like the plant managers like cartridges in the store, I changed it. There are no guys, I would say a competent manager, piece goods, and comrade Stalin understood this better than many.
      2. SerB60
        SerB60 5 May 2016 12: 11
        0
        I will refresh your conversation. Throw in "Putin is to blame".))
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 5 May 2016 17: 40
          -1
          Putinslill © same! smile
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 5 May 2016 19: 01
          +1
          Quote: SerB60
          I will refresh your conversation. Throw in "Putin is to blame".))

          Well no! Well, what are you! Putin, it has absolutely nothing to do with it!))) America is to blame, how to feed! Money, infection keeps in their treasuries, oil, gas makes to pump, instead of being engaged in industry! Exactly America! If not for her, Putin would have turned around like that! Nobody was left in the loser!
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    2. Odysseus
      Odysseus 5 May 2016 14: 59
      -1
      Quote: VohaAhov
      Under Stalin, such "leaders" would have been shot in packs, but here the Taburetkins are sent for promotion, not to the electric chair.

      Well, what does Comrade Stalin have to do with it? Understand Russia is now a state of peripheral capitalism. Not the core of the capital system, but its periphery. The whole difference between Russia and, say, Mexico is only in the huge number of Soviet arms stocks, the presence of an industrial base, technological backlogs, etc. .
      If you want to see Russia as a strong military power, you need to either return to socialism or take the place of the West. While maintaining the current socio-economic system, the existence of Russia as a powerful power impossible in principle
      PS In the current system, Comrade Stalin (or people of his type) cannot appear.
  7. bad
    bad 5 May 2016 12: 00
    -1
    Sergei Shoigu: “Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union N.G. Kuznetsov "should be ready for testing until July 1
    .. it would be nice if Sergey Kuzhugetovich gave a "magic pendel" to the bureaucrats in a soft spot .. to speed up .. laughing
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 5 May 2016 14: 07
      0
      So, there was an emergency, Crane capsized in February with injuries. While the commission, while the damage was considered, while the money for additional work, as a result, for 2 months were behind the schedule, now they are catching up.

      Well, MiG pilots are not yet allowed to fly on a cruiser.
  8. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 5 May 2016 12: 34
    0
    People read CAREFULLY !!! "Six SUCH ships should be in the Navy by 2025." No one said or says that we will not build other ships. We are tired of you! Everyone imagines himself a strategist seeing the battle from the side!
  9. SerB60
    SerB60 5 May 2016 12: 35
    +2
    No, to "Answer", "Quote" you need to anonymously slap a minus, don't you feel ashamed?
  10. abc_alex
    abc_alex 5 May 2016 12: 38
    +3
    I sometimes wonder at the guardians of our fleet. 6 frigates are few. Everything is lost...
    People, have you forgotten where the rearmament program began? Forgot, so I'll remind you. With a practical recovery from zero level production of military equipment in Russia. You are not enough 6 ships of the new project? So you rejoice that at least 6 did. Despite the fact that in the USSR the RSFSR itself did not build ships, only in all-union cooperation. Do you want everything to go like the state? Well, you estimate how it went with them, the United States fell apart into separate states.
    Today the structure of the military-industrial complex is being formed anew in Russia. Well, think for yourself - until recently, we ourselves did not produce either a gas turbine for ships or a turbojet engine for helicopters. Now where to get all this from? Yes, "effective managers", but plundered. Nobody argues. But if 2 years ago our military-industrial complex lost a strategically important part of the components, do you expect them to be taken out of thin air?
    Maybe the sanctions didn’t inflict a serious blow on our economy, but on our military-industrial complex - very much. And it has also been successfully established that the production of the same turbines can be relatively quickly localized in Russia. And then they would have completely turned off the series. Or did you think that behind the hill there really are such silly funny uncles who I don’t understand how painful it is to hit the Russians?

    It must be understood that 20 years of industrial and military-industrial complex degradation cannot be compensated simultaneously by any amount of money. It is necessary to rebuild all production schemes.
    1. Odysseus
      Odysseus 5 May 2016 15: 06
      0
      Quote: abc_alex
      But if 2 years ago our military-industrial complex lost the strategically important part of components, do you expect them to be taken out of the air?

      Generally speaking, 2 years ago, after the United States established control over the former Ukraine, nothing prevented us from seizing from them not only Crimea, but also the entire Southeast.
      Nothing except the desire not to quarrel with the "Western partners".
    2. Roman 11
      Roman 11 5 May 2016 17: 51
      0
      Quote: abc_alex
      It must be understood that 20 years of industrial and military-industrial complex degradation cannot be compensated simultaneously by any amount of money.

      Again 25 ...... how much can you? On the calendar soon the middle of the 16th! And then everything about the dashing 90s. It was just as if they were betting on oil in a casino, and when it ceased to work, they realized that the economy was not working either. And what prevented you from doing it before ?? And if oil again falls 2 times? A long point is already planned now, the cars will be electric cars .... consumption will fall, what then will pensions be canceled?
      In short, Putin once needs to begin to engage in economics, without it in any way.
  11. 70BSN
    70BSN 5 May 2016 12: 51
    0
    Touching upon the theme of celebrating the 71st anniversary of the Victory, Shoigu emphasized: “It is necessary to make every effort to hold celebrations at a traditionally high level”


    These maximum efforts would also include distribution of all apartments for the surviving veterans ......... "" considering that the Minister of Defense is a builder by education laughing could and help "" <<< humor !!
  12. Aristide
    Aristide 5 May 2016 13: 31
    0
    A great gift for NATO! The alliance itself is forcing Russia to update its armed forces according to the latest military "fashion".
  13. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 5 May 2016 18: 50
    0
    Explain the guys to me illiterate, why can’t you take out all of his diesel engines on the forge and stick nuclear-powered ships there? to carry out such a massive reconstruction?
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 5 May 2016 19: 35
      +3
      Quote: NOC-VVS
      Explain the guys to me illiterate, why can’t you take out all of his diesel engines on the forge and stick nuclear-powered ships there? to carry out such a massive reconstruction?

      It will be easier to create a new aircraft carrier than to reconstruct Kuzya. Look at the modernization of Nakhimych as the money supply that goes into it, the amount of work and the execution time. And this is not an aircraft carrying cruiser. Besides, there’s nothing to talk about .. .to date, we do not have shipyards where it would be possible to build or modernize aircraft carriers and aircraft carriers cruisers.
      1. RuSFr
        RuSFr 6 May 2016 14: 54
        +4
        You're right. But they write that the project of the aircraft carrier is not complete yet. Flurry Outline Only
  14. abc_alex
    abc_alex 6 May 2016 15: 23
    0
    Quote: Odyssey
    Quote: abc_alex
    But if 2 years ago our military-industrial complex lost the strategically important part of components, do you expect them to be taken out of the air?

    Generally speaking, 2 years ago, after the United States established control over the former Ukraine, nothing prevented us from seizing from them not only Crimea, but also the entire Southeast.
    Nothing except the desire not to quarrel with the "Western partners".


    Not a hat for Senka. I very vaguely imagine the police operation to hold the south-east of Ukraine. And even less understand where to get money for the modernization of Ukrainian industry. Crimea already costs us very painfully. Not even in the sense of sanctions, but simply by adapting collapsed production to the new realities of the Russian market. But in the anti-terrorist operation zone, the bulk of the warring is not taken from Galicia. So, I believe, it was impossible to bite off a larger Crimea, they would choke ...
  15. abc_alex
    abc_alex 6 May 2016 15: 47
    +5
    Quote: Novel 11
    Quote: abc_alex
    It must be understood that 20 years of industrial and military-industrial complex degradation cannot be compensated simultaneously by any amount of money.

    Again 25 ...... how much can you? On the calendar soon the middle of the 16th! And then everything about the dashing 90s. It was just as if they were betting on oil in a casino, and when it ceased to work, they realized that the economy was not working either. And what prevented you from doing it before ?? And if oil again falls 2 times? A long point is already planned now, the cars will be electric cars .... consumption will fall, what then will pensions be canceled?
    In short, Putin once needs to begin to engage in economics, without it in any way.


    Judging by the flag at the nickname you are not writing from Russia. I don’t know when and where you left and if the forum engine isn’t such a situation, but it looks like you are not a little friendly with history. So I can remind you.

    ALL 90s Russia has actively degraded and impoverished. People were not paid salaries for half a year, roads were not repaired, public transport lived up to the deadlines, kindergartens were closed, people fled from the country en masse. In Moscow, miners knocked on their helmets, and NPP engineers went on hunger strikes and protest marches. Roads were blocked, the military lived in tents in an open field. Almost all military design bureaus lost their pilot production, and the arms trade system drove developers purely to the core. You may be lucky not to see this. I watched it with my own eyes. What was destroyed in the 90s was not created in a year or two and decades. In our city there is a factory with almost fifty years of history. And the plant built in the first five-year plans is completely destroyed. That was the reality of Russia in the 90s. What an ass defense industry? The defenders then survived with difficulty.
    But you had to clatter loudly. They blurted out, congratulations. Only once again I remind you, Putin came to power in 2000. And the rise in oil prices began in 2007. And the first years of this rise in Russia simply patched holes. Including on the roads.
    The army rearmament program was announced after 888. And its first stage was entirely devoted to the restoration of those industries that remained. So with all the desire, there can be no talk of any 16 years. Maximum about 8. For eight years, no one has ever been able to build anything on the scale of a country like the Russian Federation. All "economic miracles" have a much longer implementation period. But it's not worth talking about 8 either, since the program affects not only the production of weapons, but also the solution of social problems of servicemen. Yes, like that, sometimes instead of ships they build houses.
    Moreover, no one could have imagined that our opponents would decide to play so tough in Ukraine, for a long time it was believed that normal human logic would prevail over the "civilizational choice of a ragul."

    And it looks like you misunderstood me. I did not talk about the "damned 90s", I started with the fact that even being in the USSR, the RSFSR did not build ships independently, only in cooperation with other republics. Now, entire segments of production need not only be rebuilt, they need to be re-created. And here no economy will help, these are exclusively state programs. The economy will not give you a result either in a year, or in two, or in three. If you need "Stalinist tempos" - adopt Stalinist methods. And the economy is out in the United States, the F-35 is cutting. Want a 400 million piece sample? And what about the $ 4 billion destroyer? This is your housekeeper :)
    1. swetlana1
      swetlana1 6 May 2016 18: 47
      +8
      Forgive him, ABC_Alex. He, the Russians, cannot understand us.
      Even on the Internet it's too lazy to see ... angry
      He does not know that our budget in 1999 amounted to only 27,5 billion dollars (with an expenditure of 29,8 billion dollars) and more than 120 billion dollars of public debt
      He did not know that there was a salary debt in the Army from six months to a year and a half. That the pilots had a raid from 1 to 5 hours a year and unloaded railway wagons to feed the family ...
      To stop our development at the end of 2013 ... at the beginning of 2014 - Ukraine was thrown into hell. We are hastily mastering the production of helicopter engines (2 plants are being built), mastering gas turbines for large warships (the first set for one ship has already been sent after the completion of production development and bench tests), we began to establish the production of those components for the nuclear industry, the supply of which has also been stopped. And much more. The construction of the largest Zvezda Shipbuilding Complex in the Russian Federation has begun in the Far East. Again, the United States - pressed on the South Korean company DSME - there are problems with the refinement of the complex ....
      We can handle it, don't wait drinks