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On the dome of the Reichstag

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By the number of Heroes of the Soviet Union who received this high rank during the Great Patriotic War, the Tatars were in fourth place after the Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians (in percentage terms, Mengel Olys was in second place). One hundred sixty one Tatar hero. Is it a lot or a little? And is it possible to measure the feat with the help of numbers? If we consider that the Tatars are relatively few people, this figure looks weighty and suggests that our fellow tribesmen performed feats on a par with the Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians and did not spare their lives for the good of common victory.


On the dome of the ReichstagSenior Sergeant Gazi Zagitov, who in April 1945 as part of the group of Captain Vladimir Makov, was the first to hoist the Victory Banner over the Reichstag's highest point, the sculptural group “Goddess of Victory”, was rightfully to be the hero of the Soviet Union. For the sake of political conjuncture, Russian and Georgian heroes were appointed as heroes - Yegorov and Kantaria, whose name was announced to the whole world. Zagitov never received a hero, although he was repeatedly presented to this title - during his lifetime and after his death. The Tatar warrior saw no benefits, no honors, and died in an 1953 car accident in August. The whole truth about 30 April 1945, he took with him to the grave. Glory to others. And the feat turned out to be useless to anyone and was completely forgotten about it.

It is considered that heroes are some special people who almost do great deeds from the cradle. Gazi Zagitov was the most ordinary person - one of the millions of “Homo Sovieticus”, a cog in a huge machine called the Soviet State. Did he dream of exploits in childhood?

It is possible that yes. After all, he, like most of his peers, was brought up on films about Chapaev, admired the feats of Budyonny, dreamed of putting Voroshilovsky's shooter on his chest. Yes, and his very name - Gazi, which translates from Arabic, as "winner, warrior", as if it was sent to him from above by those who know all about human destinies.

The pre-war biography of Gazi Kazykhanovich Zagitov is not well studied. However, this is understandable. Who dealt with the former front-line soldier, whose feat was not enshrined in the official tablets? It is only known that he was born in 1921 year in the village of Yanagushevo (Yana Kosh), now Mishkinsky District of Bashkortostan. Gazi Zagitov received his primary education in his native village, and later graduated from the Uryad seven-year school. In 1938, he entered the Birsk Medical College and studied there until August of the 1940 year. After the third year, a former student was drafted into the army. Zagitova was sent to Tallinn, where he graduated from the junior commanders courses.

From 22 June 1941, Gazi Zagitov at the front. The path he took to Berlin, his participation in hostilities, the feats he accomplished - all this is a clean sheet for those who are interested in his biography. The award list signed by 1 on May 1945 of the year indicated that Zagitov in 1943-1944 had been awarded the medals "For Courage" and "For Military Merit", the Order of Glory III. This fact suggests that Senior Sergeant Zagitov received his awards for taking part in heavy battles, since private soldiers and sergeants could earn their medals and orders only on the front line.

Spring 1945 of the year Gazi met in Berlin as an artillery - reconnaissance 136-th army Rezhetskaya gun artillery brigade. The culminating days of a long-term, bloody war began. Quarter by quarter, Soviet troops occupied the capital of the Third Reich. In late April, they approached the Reichstag. It remained to put the final point, to take the last springboard, which would mean that the war was over. Everyone understood that it would not be so easy to take the Reichstag, since the Germans had nothing to lose.

Two months earlier, at the Yalta Conference, it was decided that Soviet troops would take Berlin. On the one hand, this emphasized the significant contribution of the Red Army to the victory, and on the other, none of the allies did not want to send their soldiers to the bloody massacre, where they could not have done without numerous casualties. According to recently released data, Soviet troops lost up to one million soldiers and officers during the Berlin operation (wounded and killed).

The goal has been set. No one considered human lives. But when it came to taking the Reichstag, everyone understood that to go there first was to pave the way for the rest of us, at the cost of our lives. Nine Banners of Victory were prepared, which the brave volunteers volunteered to plant. It is hard to imagine what motivated these people - patriotism, adventurism or something else. To die in the last days of the war for the sake of a propaganda gesture that did not change anything in the current situation, not everyone wanted. Recently, in the newspaper "Izvestia", military photojournalist Anatoly Morozov recalled that when he was making the stage shot of "Egorov and Kantaria hoisting the Victory Banner" and was messing with the camera for too long, Kantaria begged: "Well, maybe that's enough already! And after all, they can kill. It will be insulting.

Gazi Zagitov and his comrades - V.Makov, A.Lisimenko, A.Bobrov and M.Minin thought differently. These were simple Soviet people who, without hesitation, went to a clear death in order to establish the symbol of victory over the Reichstag. Among them was Alexey Bobrov, twice convicted, who, in theory, should not have any special sympathy for the Soviet regime, but even he showed incredible courage and patriotism.

On April 29, members of the assault group made their way to the Germans and targeted our artillery fire on the Reichstag. The house in which they were located was surrounded by Germans, but the soldiers did not surrender. Acting with machine guns and grenades, they exterminated the Germans 40 in this battle and kept the house until our infantry approached. 30 April during the storming of the Reichstag Zagitov first broke into the building, but at that time was wounded in the chest. The bullet passed a centimeter from the heart and pierced his party card. In addition, his left hand was injured. Despite being seriously wounded, Senior Sergeant Zagitov and his friend, Sergeant Minin, climbed on a metal chain to the Reichstag Tower and installed the first Victory Banner. Having fulfilled their duty, they did not hurry to go back. Bleeding gazi Zagitov guarded the banner all night and only in the morning of the first of May was sent to the hospital.

Around the same time, banners were hoisted on other points of the Reichstag. By the way, one more Tatar participated in one of the battle groups - Grigory Bulatov, who with the help of Viktor Provotorov on April X secured the Victory Banner on the equestrian monument of William II.
For this feat, Zagitov and his comrades were presented for the title of Hero of the Soviet Union, but the military leadership decided to confine itself to the orders of the “Red Star” and “Glory of the II degree”. Others became heroes, Egorov and Kantaria, who, according to the official version, were the first to hoist the Banner of victory over the defeated Reichstag.

Home Ghazi Zagitov returned only in 1946 year. He entered the mechanization courses, was the chairman of the village council, and then, up to his tragic death, the head of the MTS. He did not spread about his exploits, which his fellow villagers learned much later, in 1964, from the publication of Komsomolskaya Pravda.

About recovery historical A lot of justice has been written with respect to Gazi Zagitov and his comrades, especially after perestroika, when it became possible to talk about what they were silent about before. A number of public organizations, war veterans, and even the President of Tatarstan Mintimer Shaimiev repeatedly appealed to the Ministry of Defense, the State Awards Service of the President of the Russian Federation, President of the Russian Federation Boris Yeltsin so that the issue with the award of brave warriors would be resolved at least for the 50th anniversary of the victory. Documents were discovered and published, in which the feat of soldiers and sergeants of the group of captain Makov was described with maximum detail and reliability. However, the award question did not move.

In the end, a reply was received from the State Awards Service of the President of the Russian Federation, which stated: “Considering that the merits of these individuals described in the award lists are marked by a high state award, and also that the current award legislation cancels the previous decisions on awarding the purpose of re-awarding a higher award is not provided for; the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation did not support the petition for awarding him the title of Hero of the Russian Federation.

The story of Zagitov was continued in the 1997 year. By the decree of the permanent Presidium of the Congress of People's Deputies of the USSR, eight participants in the assault on the Reichstag, including Gazi Zagitov, were awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union. Needless to say, this decree, signed by the chairman of the Presidium of Sazha Umalatova, six years after the collapse of the USSR, did not have any legal force and was an ordinary diploma.

And again, on Victory Day, they will again speak and write about the exploits of Egorov and Kantaria, and the staged newsreel footage with the hoisting of the banner over the Reichstag will again turn. Will justice prevail this time on this “holiday with tears in their eyes”? I do not know. Time will tell.
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  1. Floock
    Floock 6 May 2016 06: 22
    +6
    Thanks. Remember.
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 6 May 2016 08: 20
      +29
      Article with a nationalist ducky. The Soviet people defeated in the war, and that's it! And you do not need to take the general merits along the national barns on the eve of the great date of the Victory over fascism. am
      1. Beaver
        Beaver 6 May 2016 10: 13
        +9
        Quote: siberalt
        Article with a nationalist ducky.

        yes Especially in this place negative not just with a choke, stinks unbearably:
        The Tatar warrior did not see any benefits or honors and died in a car accident in August 1953.

        It seems to me that the "Tatar warrior" turns over in his grave when his "lawyers" claim that he fought not for the Motherland or some other high ideals, but for benefits and honors. wassat
        Dear nationalists of all stripes, do not disgrace your nation or your ancestors. fool
        1. ver_
          ver_ 7 May 2016 09: 30
          -6
          ..John 4 (Terrible) defeated the Bulgarian kingdom ..
          This kingdom was formed in the 15th century at the Baptism of Russia .. Part of the Gentiles did not recognize Christianity - planted by the Semites (because Jesus was born Jewish, they planted this faith ..) and this split led to the emergence of a new faith - Islam .. Prince of Tver founded the city of Kazan and moved to Constantinople ..
          Ulyanov = Lenin = Blank in 1920 "christened" the Former Bulgaria to Tatarstan in his article .. And thus "created" a new nation .. Tatar = Khazarin = Cossack - this is not a nation - this is a Horse Warrior - that is, cavalry .. Hence the proverb - not an invited guest - worse than a Tatar - a tax collector ..
          ..Many thanks to Kartaviy Blank-Lenin for laying mines under our state in the form of a national question - divide and rule - .., this is exactly what some "comrades" are doing, who are not comrades at all ..
          1. Talgat
            Talgat 7 May 2016 18: 34
            +5
            I am proud that I was a citizen of the USSR

            The USSR united all the fraternal peoples of the former empire of the Huns of Atilla. The Golden Horde and Tsarist Russia - becoming the greatest reincarnation of the Eurasian Empire - showing the highest standards of justice and living standards, defeating once again the whole united Europe in an unequal battle

            It’s okay that the author (Tatar?) Shows the Tatar’s feat - I don’t see any desire here to raise the Tatars to the detriment of other nations. All the peoples of Eurasia shoulder to shoulder defended our land from aggressors. And the Tatars were certainly not the last. One name of the people is worth it!

            It is necessary to see in the article not the desire to single out the Tatars - but on the contrary - to unite all our peoples in a single
          2. Turkir
            Turkir 8 May 2016 09: 11
            +3
            This kingdom was formed in the 15th century at the Baptism of Russia ..
            ?!

            It can be seen that you are not friends with History. The baptism of Rus officially took place in 988, that is, in the XNUMXth century under Prince Vladimir, and the Bulgarian khanateformed in the second half of the VII century!
            As for the capture of Kazan, which you call "the defeat of the Bulgar kingdom" - then take an interest in the genealogy of the mother of Ivan IV, Elena Glinskaya, you will be very surprised.
            Also take an interest in the number of Bulgarian clans that became Russian nobles.
      2. gladcu2
        gladcu2 6 May 2016 14: 53
        +4
        siberalt

        There is no national darling.
        Small nations must declare themselves, especially since there is an object of pride.

        If peoples want to preserve their family without avoiding assimilation, there are federal states that strictly share rights and duties.

        Has there been no national Chechen war since the last? So the state is working well.

        Pride is an honor. And honor is a duty.
    3. dr.star75
      dr.star75 6 May 2016 22: 12
      0
      I had the honor to communicate with the person who spoke with Kantare, and so, according to him, it was quite simple: as soon as they broke into the raystag, they were covered by the assault group on the ground floor, after which the assault continued, the banner was hoisted, and after that everything began to shout that Egorov and Kantaria were hoisted in
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 6 May 2016 06: 35
    +2
    All the incidents of politics are on the face. But the truth must triumph.
  3. Kenneth
    Kenneth 6 May 2016 06: 53
    +5
    And the Jews on the fifth :))
  4. Uncle Murzik
    Uncle Murzik 6 May 2016 07: 05
    +6
    article plus! the country must know its heroes
  5. sibiryouk
    sibiryouk 6 May 2016 07: 18
    +8
    Nine Banners of Victory were prepared, which volunteers daredevils volunteered to hoist. It is hard to imagine what drove these people - patriotism, adventurism, or something else. To die in the last days of the war for the sake of a propaganda gesture that did not change anything in the current situation, I didn’t want ...
    The banner on the roof of the building defended by the enemy is a strong psychological factor!
    It is more difficult to defend stubbornly and perish if the enemy flag is on the roof of the stronghold!
    1. Kenneth
      Kenneth 6 May 2016 08: 41
      0
      I suspect that most Germans who defended the Reistag learned about this sad fact for them only by going out into the street with their hands up
      1. RoTTor
        RoTTor 6 May 2016 16: 23
        +3
        Us ... us to the fascists!
      2. RoTTor
        RoTTor 6 May 2016 16: 23
        0
        Us ... us to the fascists!
      3. Morrrow
        Morrrow 7 May 2016 13: 08
        +2
        The Germans in the Reichstag were a minority. The Reichstag was defended by the French. And they only swore an oath to Hitler.
  6. semirek
    semirek 6 May 2016 07: 31
    +14
    Thanks to the author for the story of his fellow countryman-hero. Unfortunately, the truth of war is not always distinguished by strict punctuality and accountability — not all heroes received stars, but this does not implore their feat in the name of victory over fascism, now that many archives are open, the feat of a simple Soviet soldier is fully shown, no matter what nationality --we must remember him.
    Glory to the victorious soldier!
  7. qwert
    qwert 6 May 2016 07: 37
    +25
    Given that the Tatars are relatively few people, this figure looks significant and suggests that our fellow tribesmen performed feats on a par with the Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians and did not spare their lives for the benefit of a common victory.
    Not numerous if we take only Tatarstan. And if you count the Tatars throughout Russia, they will be the second largest after the Russians.
    By the way, here's what they write in neighboring Bashkortostan with Tatarstan: "The names of Yegorov and Kantaria, who successfully stormed the Reichstag in 1945, are probably known to everyone. However, there is information that a day before this event, a group of Soviet soldiers rose to the roof of the Reichstag. was a Bashkir, a sergeant Gazi Zagitov, a native of the Mishkinsky district of the BASSR."

    But this point in the article generally rezanul: "Recently in the Izvestia newspaper, military photojournalist Anatoly Morozov recalled that when he was making a staged shot" Egorov and Kantaria are hoisting the Victory Banner "and fiddling with the camera for too long, Kantaria prayed:" Well, maybe that's enough already! Or even kill It will be a shame. "Gazi Zagitov and his comrades - V. Makov, A. Lisimenko, A. Bobrov and M. Minin thought differently. These were ordinary Soviet people who, without hesitation, went to obvious death in order to establish a symbol of victory over the Reichstag Among them was the twice convicted Alexei Bobrov, who, in theory, should not have had any special sympathy for the Soviet regime, but he also showed incredible courage and patriotism. I understand that the Tatars want the Tatar to be the hero, the Bashkirs want the Bashkir. But for this it is not necessary to "throw dirt" at the Georgian hero. I don’t think it was easier to raise the second banner than the first. I don't think Cantaria was a coward. Nationalism is not "gut"
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 6 May 2016 08: 58
      +10
      Quote: qwert
      Nationalism is not "gut"

      I wanted to write about the same. In some places, articles were jarred by chauvinism.
    2. gladcu2
      gladcu2 6 May 2016 15: 01
      0
      qwert

      I thought of the last paragraph differently.

      Cantaria, was not cowardly on stage production. This was a normal precaution. In this case, the author says that even when it was all over the risk was very high, and what can we say about the tension during the battle.

      They want to see their heroes in all events. But the official version of hoisting the flag will not be changed.
      1. EvgNik
        EvgNik 6 May 2016 17: 59
        +10
        Quote: gladcu2
        But the official version of hoisting the flag will not be changed.

        No need to change any versions. There just needs to be a list of everyone who carried the flags of victory, who got it, who died (probably not everyone got it). They all deserve to be remembered.
        And not for awards, they carried flags. It was an honor to raise the banner.
        And most importantly, the Soviet man erected the banner of Victory, and not the Shtatovs and others clinging to the Victory.
  8. Starshina wmf
    Starshina wmf 6 May 2016 07: 45
    +2
    In percentage terms (the number of heroes per population), Ossetians are in first place, Kalmyks are in second place. Kalmyks are generally under 43 years old, after 43 they were deported and all soldiers were withdrawn from the fronts. And at the beginning of the war they rarely gave awards.
    1. co-creator
      co-creator 6 May 2016 12: 22
      -1
      Quote: Starshina wmf
      Percentage (number of heroes per population)

      Percentage does not mean anything at all. Many were given the hero only because he was from national minorities.
    2. veteran66
      veteran66 10 May 2016 20: 29
      -1
      Quote: Starshina wmf
      in the first place Ossetians,

      and today on "Vesti" they said that the Laks
  9. parusnik
    parusnik 6 May 2016 07: 54
    +13
    It’s being measured now, who has more heroes, fewer, who is in the first place, who is in the second .. who is Russian, who is Tatatrin, etc. ..And now, a common Victory ... we are taking it apart in pieces ... Because no one needs the memory of a common Victory .. it’s scary .. it unites ... Thanks to the author for the article ..
    1. co-creator
      co-creator 6 May 2016 12: 23
      0
      Quote: parusnik
      Thanks to the author for the article.

      Why, then, thanks? For me, this is the author of the idleness of the Tatar nationalist.
  10. Aleksandr72
    Aleksandr72 6 May 2016 07: 59
    +23
    What is the point of reckoning on the first, second, third, tenth ... place in terms of the number of Heroes of the Soviet Union in percentage terms or in terms of numbers. What is the point of finding out a Tatar or a Bashkir or someone else? They are our grandfathers and great-grandfathers: Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Tatars, Bashkirs, Kalmyks, Ossetians, Georgians, representatives of all other nationalities and nationalities that once inhabited the USSR - they all broke the backbone of Nazism, they all brought together our Victory, regardless of with what. Together they made it possible for us (we also hope all together) in two days to celebrate the great holiday - the 71st anniversary of the Great Victory. And the best reward for all the fallen warriors of that war - and those who died at the front, died in hospitals from wounds, and those who died or died after the war - the best reward for them will be our MEMORY, which the current generation is obligated to bequeath to our descendants .
    I have the honor.
    1. Mangel olys
      6 May 2016 08: 22
      +4
      Nice words, Alexander. I support. And, it seems to me, the author wanted to convey the truth to us, as in that film: "What is strength, brother - strength is in truth."
    2. Alex_59
      Alex_59 6 May 2016 22: 03
      +2
      Quote: Aleksandr72
      What is the point of finding out a Tatar or a Bashkir or someone else?

      Looking in what context. When they say that all Jews are cowards and sit (sat) in warm places, I like to ask - did Zinovy ​​Gerdt or Caesar Quinkov also sit in warm places? Although I am 100% Russian and Jews are generally parallel to me.
      One should relate to such an article more calmly and not to seek nationalism. Nationalists generally write in a different vein - that the Russians have occupied them. It may be for us, the Russians are not very interested in finding out where in the number of Heroes Tatars or Bashkirs stand, but it may be quite interesting for them, and I don’t see anything shameful in this - if this helps them to realize the scale and significance that they put into defense of our common Motherland.
      1. Morrrow
        Morrrow 7 May 2016 13: 19
        +1
        and belittle other nations?
  11. Aleksander
    Aleksander 6 May 2016 08: 43
    +8
    Tatars were in fourth place after the Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians (in percentage terms, in second place - Mangel Olys).


    As a percentage of the nationality, Russians are in second place, and Ossetians in first. On the third Ukrainians, on the fourth Adygea.
    Next is the author himself writes that
    About at the same time banners were also hoisted at other points of the Reichstag
    , that is, recognizes that it is not known who installed the Banner of Victory FIRST. But at the same time claims that
    For the sake of political conjuncture heroes were appointed Russian and Georgian - Egorov and Kantaria,
    . The political context, therefore, is seen precisely in his appointment Zagitov’s hero (who, without a doubt, is also a hero and deserves the title of Hero). I think that describing the feat of some, it is not necessary to belittle the feat of others.
    In addition, it is clear that not all, often unknown, sailors and gastelos were awarded the title of Hero, and it was impossible to take everything into account in the fever of battles, but the main thing was that THE EXPLOIT-WAS!
  12. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 6 May 2016 08: 43
    +7
    Regardless of nationality- ETERNAL GLORY TO HEROES !!!! GLORY YES MEMORY OUR !!!!! AND A BOW TO THE EARTHMAN!
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 1 June 2016 14: 40
      0
      Brother, I agree with your opinion!
  13. Knizhnik
    Knizhnik 6 May 2016 08: 57
    +4
    Grigory Bulatov had a difficult fate, they knocked down the intrigues around "who set up who first" http://best.kp.ru/kirov/reichstag/
    1. Zymran
      Zymran 6 May 2016 09: 47
      +7
      Final combat report 674sp 150SID, 29.4.45-02.5.45g.
      ... Leading fierce battles, regiment units to 5: 00 30.4.45. occupied the Ministry of the Interior - the office of Himmler and to 9: 00 occupied the starting line before the storming of the Reichstag. ... After the artillery bombardment, which began in 14: 00, the assault on the Reichstag began. In 14: 25 30.4.45 broke into the Reichstag building from the northern part of the western facade of the 1 page of the company and platoon of the 2 page of the company 1 page of the battalion 674sp, with which there were 6 reconnaissance men to set the flag over the Reichstag.
      1 reconnaissance platoon commander p. Battalion ml. Lieutenant Koshkarbayev and fighter reconnaissance platoon of the regiment Bulatov a banner was hoisted above the Reichstag building.
      The heroism and courage during the hoisting of the banner were shown by the soldiers of the reconnaissance platoon of the regiment: Art. Sergeant Lysenko, Pravotorov, Oreshko, the Red Army Gabidullin, Pachkovsky, Bryukhovetsky, led by the commander of the reconnaissance platoon, Lieutenant Sorokin ...
      Commander 674sp Lieutenant Colonel Plekhodanov
      The beginning Headquarters 674sp Major Zhavoronkov
  14. ovod84
    ovod84 6 May 2016 10: 08
    +4
    Abdulhakim Isakovich ISMAILOV; He has already celebrated his eighty-eightth birthday in his native village of Chagar-Otar, in Dagestan.
    There he returned among many other warriors in a victorious forty-fifth and lived peacefully for half a century, when suddenly everything changed - a modest pensioner suddenly became a man of truly world significance! An accident intervened - on the eve of the fiftieth anniversary of the Victory in Russia, a textbook on the history of the Great Patriotic War was being prepared for printing, photo materials were selected for it. Among others, there was a picture of the famous military photojournalist Eugene Chaldea - three fighters set the Victory Banner over the defeated Reichstag in Berlin. The soldiers imprinted on it were clearly not Mikhail Egorov and Meliton of Cantaria, who, according to the canonical version, accomplished this feat. The search began. Soon in the program of the famous television journalist Nikolai Svanidze was an elderly Kiev resident Alexei Kovalev (unfortunately, he did not live a year before the current anniversary of the Victory). When he was shown that photograph, he instantly replied: “Yes, it’s me, and Lenya Gorychev from Minsk and Abdulkhakim Ismailov from Dagestan are nearby!” So the country recognized its heroes.
    As it turned out, Leonid Gorychev died of wounds shortly after the war, but Abdulhakim Ismailov lived and lived safely. The news of his exploit stirred up the whole of Dagestan, until now unknown journalists, historians began to besiege the veteran. In February 1996, he was invited to Moscow, where President Yeltsin handed him the Golden Star of the Hero of Russia "For courage and heroism shown in the Great Patriotic War." Already on the eve of these holidays, the name of the Hero of Russia, who hoisted the Red Banner above Berlin, is the name of the school in his native village of Chagar-Otar, Khasavyurt district.
    1. co-creator
      co-creator 6 May 2016 12: 28
      0
      Yeah. All the same, what were the people.
  15. drilled
    drilled 6 May 2016 11: 35
    +10
    What a dirty trick? What Russian-Tatars-Belarusians ?! There were SOVIET people. SOVIET. In some article, Ametkhan Sultan was called "the son of the Crimean Tatar people." I replied then that the "son of the Crimean Tatar people" was his brother, who served the fascists. And Ametkhan was a SOVIET man.
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 6 May 2016 15: 26
      +1
      drilled

      Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
      RSFSR, Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic.

      Nationality remained and was recorded in the passport. But citizenship was the USSR.

      The Soviet man was not a faceless robotic Soveticus, but had the pride of being a man.
  16. Shuttle
    Shuttle 6 May 2016 11: 37
    +9
    One nation really won - the Soviet people.
    This is a unique historical, social and international community. Enemies call us scoops, and friends - Soviet people.
  17. V.ic
    V.ic 6 May 2016 12: 03
    +1
    Does it mean that "Adam" was a Tatar?
    Punch through the "candidates", and where will you see the "hare" besides Egorov? Egorov was from the partisans, m. even a Belarusian / I'm not sure /. However, picking old wounds is not a very noble occupation. Many of you who have read this article will remember who Sergeant Syanov was? The article is very petty, but it will work for the 71st anniversary. And in general I am surprised: where did the Russians sit from 22.06.1941/23.05.1945/XNUMX to XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX?
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 6 May 2016 16: 33
      +1
      Quote: V.ic
      In general, I wonder: where did the Russians sit from 22.06.1941/23.05.1945/XNUMX to XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX?

      Well, what people, languages ​​†‹вЂ‹ have been thrust into a "famous place"? Come on, minus, hold "Azatlyk" and its associates. Question to EVERYONE: there were no RUSSIAN people and RUSSIANS who drove the Fuhrer and all the evil spirits into gayno / may "Banshee" forgive me /! Or is all VICTORY besides and besides us? Coca Sanya near Kursk in 1943, Coca Andrey in the spring of 1942. under the Luga. Coca Fedya in 1943. died in Chelyabinsk. Uncle Misha Majdanek passed. May he rest in peace! Father from 1939 to 1952, mother from 17.10.1941/1946/XNUMX to November XNUMX in the "ranks of the Armed Forces" SA "were. Let's minus, the last of Bandera!
    2. Morrrow
      Morrrow 7 May 2016 13: 22
      +1
      Are you? There were a majority of Russians in the Red Army.
  18. Russia
    Russia 6 May 2016 13: 48
    +6
    How many veterans personally knew - not one of them said that he was offended that they did not "appreciate" his merits! They told that it was scary, hard, sometimes simply unbearable, but everyone said that "IT WAS NECESSARY!"
    They were one people, they ate from the same cauldrons, lived together in the same dugouts, together they beat the enemy from the same trenches, and together went into attacks! And they had one country! And Victory is one for ALL!
    These states are accustomed to appropriating all the laurels of all victories, and at the same time pushing their heads against "invaluable", "offended" peoples.
    Azat is like their student. He is blind and does not see the current situation of the previously allegedly "offended" and "invaluable" Balts, Ukrainians, Moldovans.
    I decided to earn myself "points" at the expense of a real Man - Gazi Zagitov! But such "glasses" will not help you, Azat, to see!

    Azat forgot the Tatar parable about the rods and friendship. By the way, many people have this parable.

    Gazi Zagitov - honor, glory, eternal memory and thanks to all Russians! soldier
  19. RoTTor
    RoTTor 6 May 2016 16: 15
    +5
    They ALL WERE SOVIET!
    And there is nothing to divide by nationality!
    Already reached the collapse of the USSR. To ruin Russia?
  20. goblin xnumx
    goblin xnumx 6 May 2016 20: 03
    0
    First, take part in the battle for Berlin and not in the computer, and then talk about the correctness of the awards - participants can judge - but ...
    1. Beaver
      Beaver 6 May 2016 20: 44
      +1
      Quote: Leshy74
      talk about the correctness of the awards

      The army is generally not supposed to complain about the lack of encouragement or the redundancy of punishment. soldier
  21. Starshina wmf
    Starshina wmf 6 May 2016 21: 08
    +2
    Yes, we won. The Soviet people. Without nationality.
  22. ver_
    ver_ 7 May 2016 09: 39
    +1
    Quote: EvgNik
    Quote: qwert
    Nationalism is not "gut"

    I wanted to write about the same. In some places, articles were jarred by chauvinism.


    Under the tsar, passports were written "Russian Armenian", and not just Armenian - you feel the difference .. First nation, then nationality .. because nation and nationality are two different things ..
    1. dimann271
      dimann271 7 May 2016 20: 29
      0
      Nationalism is not just not "gut"! This is a grain of evil! This is the belief that you are above everyone else! This does not happen! Until you fill your hand, they will beat your face!
  23. dimann271
    dimann271 7 May 2016 20: 21
    0
    http://tass.ru/obschestvo/3265930
  24. Edge
    Edge 7 May 2016 20: 26
    0
    Fourth place for the Abkhazians.
  25. Ultima15
    Ultima15 9 May 2016 06: 46
    0
    Without contesting the contribution to the overall victory of the Tatar people ... People, how can a person wounded by a bullet a centimeter from the heart - go up the chain and guard the banner at night? In the best case, such a wounded man will survive once in a hospital. At worst, it’ll just bleed.
  26. ver_
    ver_ 10 May 2016 03: 48
    0
    Quote: Turkir
    This kingdom was formed in the 15th century at the Baptism of Russia ..
    ?!

    It can be seen that you are not friends with History. The baptism of Rus officially took place in 988, that is, in the XNUMXth century under Prince Vladimir, and the Bulgarian khanateformed in the second half of the VII century!
    As for the capture of Kazan, which you call "the defeat of the Bulgar kingdom" - then take an interest in the genealogy of the mother of Ivan IV, Elena Glinskaya, you will be very surprised.
    Also take an interest in the number of Bulgarian clans that became Russian nobles.

    .. "no need to blame the mirror if the mug is crooked" Christ was born in 1152 .. They were crucified on the cross in 1185 .. like a robber - sentenced to this by his crowned relatives .. who committed a palace coup .. for his bloody and immoral deeds that he did being the Emperor .. Therefore, the crusades for the throne began - for the throne was deprived of the legitimate ones - there were many who wanted the Throne - including Richard the Lion's Heart ..
  27. Runx135
    Runx135 10 May 2016 06: 28
    +2
    Heroes have no nationality! Eternal glory !!!
  28. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 11 May 2016 05: 17
    0
    Let more details about the exploits, about the glorious deeds of our grandfathers, great-grandfathers! Our --- means Soviet!