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Tricky comments. Natointegration: rejection or suicide?

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Apparently, the results that our Armed Forces achieved in Syria have borne fruit. Of course, the fruits are far from those that we hoped for, but agree, and when it was possible to count on a benevolent attitude from western partners?


Today we have what we have. Namely, the desire to plunge us into the next arms race and thereby precisely fuck. As it was in the USSR.

Tricky comments. Natointegration: rejection or suicide?


The desire of gentlemen from NATO to shake is quite understandable. weapons near our borders. This is safe if these boundaries are not violated. Unlike the same Syria, where they can send something like “Made in the USA” to the address of the NATO warriors. From ATGM to MANPADS.

And today we are seeing exactly that. The new commander of the North Atlantic warriors, on the frenzy at all not inferior to the previous one. So, at the very least, it will conduct the same policy, and even try to surpass its predecessor.

And quite naturally, our neighbors moved. Of these, limitrofov. The fact that all the military leaders from the Baltic micro-education wake up every night in a cold sweat with a cry of “Russians are coming!”, We all know. And of course, they want to be ready to repel the growing external threat from Russia.

Hence the constant maneuvers led by Western colleagues. Well, the exercises at the platoon level Balts learned. Not bad. So, you see, and the company will reach.

The very fact of the deployment of American battalions near our borders is unpleasant. It is unpleasant when they see the aggressor in you, and pretend that the battalion is exactly what can stop this aggression.

Disrespectful even somehow.

Perhaps that is why Comrade Shoigu 4 of April and said that if this is the case, then we will create another 2 division in this direction, where we love to maneuver. And we will also maneuver. From the heart and with the Russian scale. Who wants to - join, who does not want - makes conclusions.

And there is only one conclusion - we have something to answer.

And will have to answer, as if we did not want. Once went this alignment.

Long thought why battalions are placed there. In order to stop the Russian troops, in the event of a situation, “God forbid,” this is not just not enough, but scanty. In order to stand behind the gallant Baltic warriors and play the role of a detachment - completely. Although it is possible that a regiment or brigade, which also couldn’t really do anything in such a situation, but at least flattered our vanity, the Balts simply could not pull. The matter is not even in money, but how would I put it this way, in the concomitant fecalization of the territory of countries by the contingent.

And there are probably no free janitors. They all work in Europe.

Apparently the same alignment and in terms of the Air Force. Yes, a couple of F-22 - this is a significant contribution to the defense of the Balts. Let them fly to write-off, then make monuments from them.

What else can I add? Never mind. It is clear that all these constant maneuvers and exercises are still a gift to the budget. Considering, for example, that the budget of the same Latvia is only 10-11 times more than in my Voronezh region. But we have no bugs in terms of external aggression. And the problems are a little different. But it is, by the way. What are we going to consider other people's money, right? Let them consider them.

Let, by the way, all well considered and hot Finnish guys who rushed to NATO. We understand with our mind that the Finnish guys in NATO do not really need that, there is definitely a thing at the top that someone very eloquent, such as Mr. Bridlav or his successor, Skaparotti, dismissed.

Nevertheless, it is necessary to think. And to think that a battalion of American warriors is not the worst thing that could happen in Suomi. No matter how unpleasant the Russian is, this fuss around our borders, we will digest the next battalion somehow.

But if movements like strike aircraft begin, or, God forbid, and the Finnish government, of rockets, then forgive me, guys, Santa Claus is more precious than your Joulupukki. Although, by the way, maybe Joulupukki just does not threaten anything. Unlike the rest.

This will not be a joke. Peter from the Russian-Finnish border you know how far it is. And therefore, no matter how cool you are, you’ll have to find money, build a regiment (or better two) of “Iskander”, direct it to peaceful Finnish territories, where experts from NATO will sit and things like that.

And now it will not be a threat. The threat is NATO's personal belongings in Finland. Accordingly, it will be necessary to calculate everything at the right moment of that ... Preventively, not preventively, and considering how people are settled there, Joulupukki with deer will remain to write if they want to write petitions.

It is necessary to think. Head. Especially before the referendum.

In fact, if the head works, then everything is in order. It is not necessary to shout every day that the Russians are coming. Nowhere they are not going. They, Russian, do not need someone else's. So far at least not planned. And it is unlikely that in the foreseeable future it will be incurred for the conquest of foreign lands, for there are enough of its own.

But if the head does not work, then nothing more than suicidal tendencies can not be explained by the suddenly arisen desire to substitute his head and everything else under the Russian cudgel.

I, frankly, a long time ago I put a cross on Balts. But here the Swedes and Finns would recommend to think. In museums to go on the weekend, on the Mannerheim line to ride. Refresh your memory and breathe fresh air. While they are letting us, we call on our side, look around us again, take our vodovka.

And then, the next day, soberly ponder whether this is all that is necessary.
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  1. izya top
    izya top 5 May 2016 05: 47
    +46
    So the Yankees said they were ready to fight with Russia, but only in Europe. They consider their territory inviolable - you can’t take and bomb the very essence of democracy like this
    1. Teberii
      Teberii 5 May 2016 06: 00
      +7
      Tse Europe there and kosher fat.
      1. cniza
        cniza 5 May 2016 08: 21
        +21
        The correct article was written with humor, but there is something to think about and find a solution that will permanently block NATO’s desire to fight us.
        1. ruAlex
          ruAlex 5 May 2016 16: 47
          +3
          And better forever.
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. Jarilo
      Jarilo 5 May 2016 06: 03
      +12
      Democracy degenerated there - dissent is harshly suppressed. There is also trouble with competition - TNCs are solid. And this “infection” of democracy is spreading this infection all over the world.
    4. Volzhanin
      Volzhanin 5 May 2016 08: 43
      +21
      So you just need to adopt an official document - a new military doctrine that in the event of an attack on Russia by anyone, an immediate nuclear attack on London will follow. And if this turns out to be not enough to sober up the aggressors, then according to America, through many-ton nuclear charges embedded in a huge amount around the perimeter of the mattress.
      With this approach, peace, friendship and chewing gum are guaranteed to us for many years.
      1. opus
        opus 5 May 2016 16: 21
        +8
        Quote: Volzhanin
        So you just need to adopt an official document - a new military doctrine that in the event of an attack on Russia by anyone, an immediate nuclear attack on London will follow.

        uh ... but what does London have to do with it?
        The doctrine is:



        The use of the Armed Forces, other troops and bodies, their main tasks in peacetime, during the period of direct threat of aggression and in wartime

        22. The Russian Federation considers it legitimate to use the Armed Forces, other troops and bodies to repel aggression against it and (or) its allies, maintain (restore) peace by decision of the UN Security Council, other collective security structures, and also to ensure the protection of its citizens the borders of the Russian Federation, in accordance with generally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation.
        ...
        26. As part of the implementation of activities strategic deterrence The Russian Federation provides the use of precision weapons.

        27. Russian Federation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response to application against her and (or) her allies of nuclear and other types of weapons of mass destruction, as well as in case of aggression against the Russian Federation using conventional weaponswhen the very existence of the state is threatened.
        ...
        31. In order to protect the interests of the Russian Federation and its citizensmaintaining international peace and security of the formation of the Armed Forces can be used quickly outside the Russian Federation in accordance with generally recognized principles and norms of international law, international treaties of the Russian Federation and federal law.


        In accordance with the doctrine, the main threats to Russia are:

        External threat: eastward expansion of NATO.
        Internal threat:
        ... activities on the information impact on the population, first of all, on young citizens of the country, aimed at undermining the historical, spiritual and patriotic traditions in the field of protecting the Fatherland.
        1. Orionvit
          Orionvit 7 May 2016 10: 38
          +2
          Because in London, the main viper. Washington cannot be compared with London. And another blow to New Zealand, they have the main refuge there. They think to sit out in case of what. Let them know that they will be reached there.
    5. DMB_95
      DMB_95 5 May 2016 09: 36
      +2
      Quote: iza top
      So the Yankees said they were ready to fight with Russia, but only in Europe. They consider their territory inviolable - you can’t take and bomb the very essence of democracy like this

      The fact that Europe will become a desert in case of War is an axiom. And for the states, a guaranteed Death was created back in the Union, and has since been constantly modernized. It’s impossible not to understand this. Maybe they really are and / diots, what they look like ...
    6. Slavianin_37
      Slavianin_37 5 May 2016 19: 33
      +1
      So I think in any case it is necessary to "arguments" first to throw them! And tell everyone at once about it, let them want to believe, want not! Erdogan sneezed - no Texas! Something like this!
    7. family tree
      family tree 5 May 2016 21: 24
      +2
      Quote: izya top
      you can’t take and bomb the very essence of democracy like this

      Cho really? Figo however. But as Ectoplasm says, there is a way out. In the USSR, it was not in vain that the sappers created VREAMUM and OTRUYM, at the expense of reconnaissance and neutralization, I doubt that even the TMK 62nd could be made full-time or non-recoverable, but if these platoons and squads were used, silent glanders, then the strait, named after Vissarionych, quite wassat Well, half of the Cubans will have to be taken over, for old memory, but in my opinion it's better than some "refugees" from Hochland what
      Cubans, again, although not, if Cuba, means Cuban belay , not a Kubanka, this hat, in the sense of a hat fool well, that means cuban stop Oppany, from Kuban means what No, are there all the relatives there? belay Completely confused what Everything, nafig, first of all, pits and charges, and then cuban soldier So, I wanted to become a geologist
      1. izya top
        izya top 6 May 2016 05: 56
        +4
        Quote: perepilka
        Cubans, again, although not, if Cuba, means Kubanka, not Kubanka, flap, in the sense of a hat like that, then means a Kubanka, oppanka, from Kuban means No, are there any relatives there, galleries? Completely confused

        healthy hi
        you, this, no longer climb into the cellar No. well, if only for pickle yes
    8. AGV Pagan
      AGV Pagan 5 May 2016 22: 46
      0
      And if you try? At least a couple of calibers, at the Capitol? wink
  2. ImPerts
    ImPerts 5 May 2016 05: 53
    +20
    1) It is very expensive to switch to NATO standards and equipment;
    2) Well, they will. "Iskander" and "Caliber" after them;
    3) This will be their decision, they will also be blown away. To us barbarians from Bangladesh and Upper Volta with a nuclear baton, why be afraid ?!
    They go along the road Ilya Muromets, Dobrynya Nikitich and Alyosha Popovich. And then to meet
    they get three musketeers ...
    ... Ilya turns to Alyosha Popovich: Alyosha sprinkle him with chalk
    and give me my mace.
    PS The mace was accepted, the missile carriers are building. Enough of chalk ...
    1. def89
      def89 5 May 2016 08: 20
      +1
      Finns will be tortured to switch to NATO standards. Only not long ago, relatively, the BMD-2 was modernized. And our "Kalash" is released under license.
  3. Jarilo
    Jarilo 5 May 2016 05: 58
    +7
    It is necessary to expand somewhere. This is the essence of capitalism - to develop at the expense of someone. Now Europeans are under the hand. Russia is getting out of control.
    1. sergey72
      sergey72 5 May 2016 09: 06
      +29
      Something like that...... laughing(clickable)
      1. kondrat13
        kondrat13 5 May 2016 10: 11
        +8
        so I did not understand the humor of the picture - 4 women and a civil engineer. Another stool can be added, and its women. What's better? The army of a great country should be led by a cadre military officer, who has grown from a lieutenant to the highest ranks, duly trained (the two highest who forgot), sniffed gunpowder and footcloths at all levels. I was in the USSR at the institute as many, or even more, were taught military affairs (reserve medical officer) than these civil ministers.
        1. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 5 May 2016 14: 01
          0
          Well, yes, it is still unknown who is better - these women or Serdyukov the reformer. By the way, left Norwegian, not Swedish
        2. opus
          opus 5 May 2016 16: 30
          +7
          Quote: kondrat13
          The great country’s army should be led by a cadre military officer, who has grown from a lieutenant to senior ranks, duly trained (the two highest who forgot), sniffed gunpowder and footcloths at all levels

          Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation -
          In accordance with Article 87 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the supreme commander of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is President of Russian Federation.
          GDP:
          Senior Lieutenant of Justice
          major of justice
          Colonel of Justice (retired)

          About "sniffing gunpowder" not in the know.

          And the Minister of Defense is essentially a manager, maybe the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - the central military authority Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and main governing body Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
          1. basal
            basal 5 May 2016 16: 50
            +3
            Excuse me, what justice are we talking about?

            Actually, he served in the KGB, there are military ranks, by the way, as now in the FSB hi
            1. opus
              opus 5 May 2016 17: 27
              +4
              Quote: basal
              Excuse me, what justice are we talking about?

              1. about herself and goes

              Faculty of Law, Leningrad State University, graduated in 1975 year

              Supposedly certified as an officer at 1977

              Captain of Justice at 1980
              Major of Justice at 1983
              By seniority approx. 1987 awarded another military rank Colonel of Justice


              2 - Colonel General justice - higher military rank for servicemen with a military specialty legal profile in the USSR and the Russian Federation...


              Quote: basal
              Actually, he served in the KGB, there are military ranks, by the way, as now in the FSB

              otherwise I forgot?
              but what about "Special ranks in the KGB"?
              The State Security Committee under the Council of Ministers of the USSR was created by Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of March 13 1954 on the basis of the Chekist operational units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Acted as a union republican ministry. Its activity was regulated by the Regulation on the State Security Committee under the Council of Ministers of the USSR and its local bodies, approved on January 9 1959 by the Decree of the USSR Council of Ministers, and from May 16 on 1991 on, by the USSR Law "On State Security Bodies in the USSR." By Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR No. 7766-IX “On the Procedure for Enforcing the Law of the USSR on the Council of Ministers of the USSR” of July 5, 1978 was renamed the KGB of the USSR.


              Quote: basal
              as now in the FSB

              GDP did not serve the FSB?
          2. Shark Lover
            Shark Lover 6 May 2016 01: 13
            0
            Absolutely right. The Minister of Defense is more of a politician and manager, a military man in the General Staff and a military deputy. Was Grachev MO so what? They gobbled up politicians, bent under themselves, from this the whole Army suffered.
            By the way, in the USSR, remember this name, "Jacket"?
        3. trantor
          trantor 5 May 2016 17: 31
          +3
          Quote: kondrat13
          The army of a great country should be led by a cadre military,

          MO - a figure more political and administrative than military and Shoigu here in its place. But military personnel should plan and control the military operations - what the General Staff is doing.
          1. goblin xnumx
            goblin xnumx 5 May 2016 19: 43
            +1
            Well, women can also manage, then why should they rub up their ministers? - if you need a manager and not a soldier?
        4. Senior manager
          Senior manager 5 May 2016 22: 04
          0
          Minus. The level of education does not add intelligence, honesty, decency, ability to create.
  4. Knowing
    Knowing 5 May 2016 06: 23
    +4
    NANOintegration under the Baltic in this, it would be more correct. IMHO.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 May 2016 06: 23
    +13
    Each bureaucratic organization seeks self-expansion to the limit that it sets for itself. Why is NATO worse? It spreads like a cancerous tumor. While the borders of Russia interfere with them. And so, the poor, poor limitrophs, and the Balts, and the Finns, and, in general, the Swedes. Well, who will save them, besides NATO, from the terrible Russian bear that now growls from every iron on them. Head to think is not for them. On a fig to us their swamps - enough of their own, this is also not for them.
  6. Zomanus
    Zomanus 5 May 2016 06: 25
    +4
    Well, yes, they escalate the situation around our borders.
    We have enough work in the military-industrial complex even without an arms race.
    It is necessary to update everything that has managed to become outdated morally and physically.
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 5 May 2016 06: 26
    +13
    NATO is not the Universe, it cannot expand indefinitely .. So you can burst .. And we pour it, and move away ... so that it does not splatter with giblets ..
    1. opus
      opus 5 May 2016 16: 32
      +1
      Quote: parusnik
      NATO is not the Universe, it cannot expand indefinitely .. So you can burst .. And we pour it, and move away ... so that it does not splatter with giblets ..

      I liked the photo
      1. VeryBravePiggy
        VeryBravePiggy 8 May 2016 00: 52
        +1
        Moonshine lovers die more often during hostilities than those who abide by Prohibition. Our soldiers who have fought for the past 15 years have already understood this. Consequently, another "patriotic" blue cattle, who did not participate in hostilities, and who appreciates not training, calculation and heroism, but the rabidness of the used bruise, with spreading cranberries about "bear, votka, balalaika" rides with a sticker. Abusive stickers are rudeness and stupidity in themselves, and even more so if it is such a miserable bravado. Is this hero going to destroy potential opponents with matches and moonshine? Similar marks on the buckets of money (2 pi * ora with the inscription "1941-1945 we can repeat" from the same opera) are a direct insult to the Russian army, and our people and the country as a whole. Survivors of abortion victims, when will they finally stop multiplying?
  8. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 5 May 2016 06: 40
    +2
    the author is right- Let the Swedes and the Finns think ......... think so hard ...... everything is clear with the Balts - the mongrels are small ..... only would yelp .....
  9. EvgNik
    EvgNik 5 May 2016 06: 47
    +5
    I honestly put a cross on the Baltic states a long time ago

    To be honest - I put an end to the whole western world. And marked with red crosses the places subject to mandatory annihilation.
    The term "A" is inaccurate. In the phenomenon under consideration, there is no destruction of matter, but only the transformation of one form of matter into another.

    http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enc_philosophy/5476/АННИГИЛЯЦИЯ
    1. Knowing
      Knowing 5 May 2016 07: 12
      +19
      Quote: EvgNik
      To be honest - I put an end to the whole western world. And marked with red crosses the places subject to mandatory annihilation.

      hi I beg your pardon, but this time:
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 May 2016 07: 20
    +5
    exercises at the platoon level the Balts have learned. Not bad. So, you see, and they will reach the company.

    The author in two sentences very illustratively outlined the state of the Baltic "armies". Thank you for the irony, which is very appropriate in this case.
  11. gorozhanka74
    gorozhanka74 5 May 2016 07: 21
    +7
    The feeling of self-preservation has changed for the Baltics a long time ago, atrophied ... and the Swedes and the Finns were slightly surprised by the desire for death ... masochists or what? ...
    the information war is not for us, we give the word - we hold it, and the Westerners, the masters of their word - they want to give, they want - they take it back ... we have a mismatch of moral principles.
  12. Homo
    Homo 5 May 2016 07: 27
    +13
    I did not quite understand the author.
    “Apparently, the results that our Armed Forces have achieved in Syria have borne fruit. the fruits are far from the ones we were counting on, but you must agree, when could one count on a benevolent attitude from Western partners? "
    And what benefits, according to the authors, did we expect? That the West will be afraid to lift the sanctions? That NATO will urgently rush to buy our weapons? That the US will abandon "world domination" out of fear? We got what we expected:
    - Syria remained the state (unlike Libya),
    - the Syrian army went on the offensive,
    - ISIS has suffered significant damage,
    - the people of Syria rallied around Assad even more!
    What results are still needed?
    PS Along the way, a demonstration of our weapons, combat experience for our military, field tests of new weapons, testing for "lice" friends and "brothers"!
    1. goblin xnumx
      goblin xnumx 5 May 2016 19: 47
      +1
      Something about Syria began to write little by the way - I read on a third-party basis that the government surrendered the largest field after 3 days of fighting - and this is one of the most noticeable events - but about "significant damage" - it's doubtful ... and maybe not in the subject - but I'll ask there in the DNR and LPR? - suspicious silence
  13. baudolino
    baudolino 5 May 2016 07: 42
    +1
    Now it is the States that are acting as the former USSR. They all over the world have piled so much, and not always very much needed. The efficiency of their military budget is very low. And this despite the fact that the American financial system really can not cope.
    1. 34 region
      34 region 5 May 2016 12: 32
      +2
      07.42. What time! Act as the former USSR! This is when the Soviet Union drove the country into the Stone Age? What is American inefficiency? Countries are technologically omitted, oil has fallen in price. Is there a civil war in the USA? White, black and yellow are fighting among themselves? What are the US problems today?
  14. nemec55
    nemec55 5 May 2016 08: 02
    +1
    Given, for example, that the budget of Latvia itself is only 10-11 times larger than in my Voronezh region. But we have no pain in the face of external aggression

    The problem is only one or not one .im this money is enough for roads and pensions and we have it like a hole. That is why the Balts and their ilk do not want to live with rich and generous Russia but want to live so much with rotting Europe. And what should we do in this situation ???? I always say you need to create a kursavel in your country (everywhere) to reach us. But in fact we can offer only Vorkuta
    1. 34 region
      34 region 5 May 2016 12: 38
      +3
      08.22. Against our Vorkuta, the West puts up a Storm in the Desert. Look how intensively work is going in this direction! How is brushwood prepared and thrown into the furnace of the financial international!
  15. Tanya
    Tanya 5 May 2016 08: 03
    +3
    Everyone understands that the NATO battalions near our border are not able to contain, let alone attack Russia. But they may well fit for some kind of "canned" operation.
  16. Samoyed
    Samoyed 5 May 2016 08: 03
    +6
    Do not confuse the Balts with their perverted elite, which is pulled by strings of dirt. It is better to step up the Foreign Ministry regarding violations in the Baltic states. In the Baltic there are many people for Russia.
  17. sa-ag
    sa-ag 5 May 2016 08: 48
    +1
    "... You need to think. Head." (C)

    Golden words, and so during the Cold War, and then the confrontation was much steeper, a little before the nuclear war, the thing during the Caribbean crisis didn’t come, but it didn’t, because it turned on the head, and so Finland and especially Sweden did not think about NATO, and France in general left the NATO military organization, and all because it is necessary not to oppose the whole world, but to pull it to its side, and no NATO countries will arise at the borders
  18. then
    then 5 May 2016 09: 05
    +5
    NATO generals are preparing for the past war, jumping over ravines, crawling on their belly, preparing for a meeting with the boot of a Russian soldier. And the war of the future is the shutdown of gas, water, light and, most importantly, the Internet, that's when Europe is a complete apocalypse.
    1. 34 region
      34 region 5 May 2016 12: 41
      0
      Sedan! 09.05/XNUMX. And why, then, are fighting in a desert where there is no gas, water or light?
      1. then
        then 5 May 2016 13: 17
        +1
        I'm talking about Europe, about those who already can’t fight without diapers.
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  19. Vega
    Vega 5 May 2016 09: 14
    +2
    NATO as DER ... into which they threw yeast, if it does not expand it will burst !! So they are trying to expand somehow, so as not to self-destruct.
  20. Stranger
    Stranger 5 May 2016 09: 25
    +10
    I will say from myself. Moldavian seichas in gem. 15 years, I remember the slogans (suitcase _vogsal -Russia) .Last 3 years a lot of Labusantsevs and Poles appeared in the company. We agree to work half the price, curse (eu) and remember (sowing) and Ukrainians here are different bistro here. Roads here too die. Sani Germans say (if bi were so built under Hitler, warriors would never beat. so here too it’s not very. Such a feeling everything is coming to an end
  21. shcishcok
    shcishcok 5 May 2016 09: 28
    +2
    Well, Roman !! well done! that's exactly "its enough" - Russia has never had colonies, so at least this fact would have made all Westerners think a little. Although .. their policy is clear - they WOULD be in the place of Russia would have attacked and conquered a long time ago, in vain that they trained in the colonies? and here is a soooo tidbit! such open spaces! - and-on the mantle, take a bite!
  22. Volksib
    Volksib 5 May 2016 09: 43
    +11
    As the author of the 4th battalion noted, this is nothing. During my service in training, I remember how during the next combat review, a regiment stood on the parade ground, as should the 3rd battalion, so to speak, full-blooded in the states of wartime. Here, 1 battalion more brigade, with funds gain. But all the same it is negligible. For the defense of the 3 Baltic republics and a couple of former "partners" in the ATS. The problem here is in a completely different plane. NATO members are creating large storage bases for weapons and equipment, equipment in this region. In these battalions will take place rotation, allowing to familiarize a large number of servicemen with the "local peculiarities". The media picture in the media prepares the mass consciousness for the inevitability of a conflict with Russia. But the most important thing is to shake up taxpayers to contain aggression from the East))). NATO has outlived itself. Yes and most of the same Europeans are not that stupid, and they are also concerned about much more pressing problems. Ican money, processed in Western universities, and serving the interests of their masters has little in common with the people of their countries. Morale is the foundation of the combat power of any Army. In the Russian Armed Forces, everything is excellent with a fighting spirit. As the ancient proverb says, "If you need one sword once in a lifetime, you must always wear it. "Therefore, we are deploying new divisions in the West direction. There is another proverb" What's the use of a sword if it is in the hands of a coward. "No hot guys from Texas agree to die for distant Tyrva. here to sit a beer, sip, urinate on the pavement of Tallinn, thereby securing the status of "Defender of European values" yes ....)))
  23. ayax-v
    ayax-v 5 May 2016 09: 47
    +5
    "businessmen" from NATO must understand one simple message .. - whoever and where did not start "meat" with us, - everything will end in Washington and London ..
  24. am808s
    am808s 5 May 2016 09: 53
    +1

    Quote: nemec55
    Given, for example, that the budget of Latvia itself is only 10-11 times larger than in my Voronezh region. But we have no pain in the face of external aggression

    The problem is only one or not one .im this money is enough for roads and pensions and we have it like a hole. That is why the Balts and their ilk do not want to live with rich and generous Russia but want to live so much with rotting Europe. And what should we do in this situation ???? I always say you need to create a kursavel in your country (everywhere) to reach us. But in fact we can offer only Vorkuta

    Correctly. The club is not being driven to Paradise. I do not agree with Vorkuta. A lot of good will be revealed to the seeker in Russia would be willing to see it!
    1. nemec55
      nemec55 5 May 2016 11: 46
      +4
      I do not agree to the account of Vorkuta

      Figuratively said ...
      A lot of good will be revealed to the seeker in Russia would be hunting this species

      I don’t want to search, I want everything to be tired of searching and waiting all my life. I’m plowing 60 hours a week, so let the government and officials plow like that.
  25. ayax-v
    ayax-v 5 May 2016 09: 55
    +4
    By the way, no one will tell you why the site defines the Crimea region with a Ukrainian flag ??
    1. am808s
      am808s 5 May 2016 11: 13
      +4
      As I understand it, this resus is connected with Germany and there they still didn’t get Azhel to retire, and they’re kakly above all!
    2. Mobik
      Mobik 5 May 2016 14: 12
      +2
      Because the old providers re-registered under Russian laws, and the range of IP addresses remained assigned to Ukraine.
  26. black
    black 5 May 2016 09: 56
    +1
    Don’t hi. Let them in that NAT do what they want. On a cunning opu there is Iskander with a screw and a Mace with nooks and crannies.
  27. sieras
    sieras 5 May 2016 10: 34
    +2
    it’s just necessary to officially declare in case of a trouble even after 10 years, the one who passed laws with long-term consequences will also be destroyed, i.e. one missile for the problem, one or more missiles for those who laid the foundation for it. they would know that if now they spray saliva for grants, they will do everything for aggression in the future, they will know that they will not be able to sit out with these grants aside. they will be destroyed along with this problem. therefore, they’re not afraid, they change every 4 years, and they are the last to answer vseravno. no really.
    but yes, of course, it's not like "partner" to make such statements.
  28. kolobok63
    kolobok63 5 May 2016 10: 40
    0
    I liked the article! Smiled! The author is right to need a new military doctrine. For each of their actions there must be opposition! Moreover, painted to the smallest detail, with a designation of goals! hi
  29. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 5 May 2016 10: 43
    0
    to draw us into the arms race didn’t work out said V.V.
    And Shoigu said: 3 divisions will be created to counter NATO
  30. MATROSKIN-53
    MATROSKIN-53 5 May 2016 10: 59
    +6
    There is a Russian proverb: "To get rid of - do not move bags!" So cunning foreign military leaders are fluttering their tongues. And in fact, hu from hu ?! NATO can only fight with unarmed and unprotected states. With those who cannot answer them with real force. But they are afraid to fight with Russia! Sometimes their heart-rending psychic barking turns into a dull howl ... But what if the Russians take and shoot at them from high-precision weapons ?! Where then to run? Where to hide ?! How to be without walking dry closets ?! Three meals a day ?! All. You have to give up. But we will not take prisoners. There is nothing to eat yourself. So you need to bite your tongue and sniff into a rag. Their HORDE, and US-RAT!
    1. Allax
      Allax 5 May 2016 23: 08
      0
      So NATO is not going to directly fight with us. They will rock the country from the inside: either they will try to collect the second marsh through the liberals, or they will try to rock some thread of national patriots and provoke ethnic conflicts like the Chechen Republic of the 90s
      1. Skif100500
        Skif100500 6 May 2016 00: 11
        0
        No, while even on the "swamp" it is impossible to scrape together idiots, and nationally bruised in our marketable quantity is not observed. We'll shake and see, while our people understand that there is a war going on and a showdown is inappropriate.
  31. Cucumbers
    Cucumbers 5 May 2016 11: 11
    +2
    All these swarms near the borders are dances with tambourines. They understand that while we have such a Supreme, they won’t take us. They bet on the election. It is cheap and cheerful. This shobla at the borders is waiting for a signal, and the signal will be our internal instability. If he does not, then Trump will disperse them. Their prospects are not bright, perestroika loomed
    1. Allax
      Allax 5 May 2016 23: 12
      0
      And why does everyone have such hopes for Trump?
      By the way, Obama also positioned himself as a pro-Russian politician in the elections, and proposed a "reset". As a result, he brought the matter to the most acute conflict since the Cuban missile crisis.
  32. Evil 55
    Evil 55 5 May 2016 11: 55
    +6
    Y-yes ... The Russians took Berlin three times until they taught the Germans to live peacefully .. Well, the gentlemen from London and Fashington in vain hope that in the event of a "hot phase" of mutual love with Russia, they will be protected by the English Channel and the Atlantic puddle from the righteous anger of the Buryat and Kalmyk tank divisions ...
  33. rus-5819
    rus-5819 5 May 2016 12: 36
    +1
    This is probably why Comrade Shoigu announced on April 4 that if this is the case, then we will create 2 more divisions in this direction, where they like to maneuver very much. And we will also maneuver. With all my heart and with a Russian scale]
    The commentators who propose the development of a new military doctrine are also right.
    And it would be nice to strengthen the eastern shield of the Motherland and show the missile sword to NATO’s main partner and mastermind: The first blow to the cover of Zaluzhia’s coffin, and the second and last to its metastases in Europe
    (couch dreams ... pulled something)
  34. Taygerus
    Taygerus 5 May 2016 13: 48
    0
    To the author +, the article is written simply and clearly, with humor, everything is laid out on the shelves. We don’t need someone else’s, but we won’t give our own, and for each of their NATO actions we have our own opposition, and such that they don’t even dream about it in a nightmare, so there’s nothing to provoke us, tea is not immortal
  35. Uncle
    Uncle 5 May 2016 14: 14
    +1
    They, Russians, do not need someone else's.
    Let me remind the author that part of the Finnish territory is now part of the Leningrad region. And Finland itself is part of the Republic of Ingushetia, the Principality of Finland.
  36. Shelest2000
    Shelest2000 5 May 2016 15: 10
    +1
    Quote: cniza
    The correct article was written with humor, but there is something to think about and find a solution that will permanently block NATO’s desire to fight us.

    There can only be one solution - to declare that in the event of any conflict between NATO and Russia, a nuclear strike will be delivered on US territory. It may even be proactive so that they don’t sit overseas again ...
  37. Maikmigel
    Maikmigel 5 May 2016 15: 52
    0
    The big giraffe is better known ...
  38. t118an
    t118an 5 May 2016 15: 53
    +2
    Well, this is unlikely to threaten Russia. Smart people are modernizing. Quality over quantity. All the ideas and ideas of the past years, and there were quite a few of them, went into action. Our gunsmiths, even in the "dashing" 90s, when they were destroying everything, in the Navy, in the missile forces, to please the notorious "partners", without funding, without salaries, did their job.
    1. Timmer
      Timmer 5 May 2016 19: 44
      0
      Quantity is also quality.
  39. delvin-fil
    delvin-fil 5 May 2016 17: 10
    0
    Although, by the way, maybe Joulupukki just does not threaten anything.

    Not sure...
  40. misterwulf
    misterwulf 5 May 2016 17: 15
    +2
    In general, the Finns are surprising. In 1944, they showed just Jesuit wisdom and cunning. They capitulated to the USSR. They avoided occupation and indemnity. We surrendered (until the end of the war) naval bases and airfields. Then they signed neutrality and were the most friendly capitalist country to the USSR. And they lived beautifully nearby. And the visa-free regime ... What happened? Are Finlandia vodka drunk? am
    1. opus
      opus 5 May 2016 17: 52
      +3
      Quote: misterwulf
      Avoided occupation and indemnity. They handed over (before the end of the war) naval bases and airfields.

      Well this is not true:
      1. There was no official occupation of the USSR by Finland, as it were
      2. According to the armistice agreement between the USSR and Finland of September 1944, Finland pledged to provide the Soviet Union on lease for 50 years, the territory and water spaces for the creation of the Soviet naval base in the area of ​​Porkkala-Udd.

      This Agreement was confirmed by the Peace Treaty concluded in Paris on February 10 1947 of the year. About 100 km² were leased. It included almost the entire Degerbu community, partly Siuntio, Inkoo and Espoo.

      Rental price - 5 million Finnish marks per year
      ...
      19 September 1955 year in Moscow, an agreement was signed between the USSR and Finland on the waiver of the Soviet Union from the right to use the territory of Porkkala-Udd for the naval base and the withdrawal of the Soviet armed forces from this territory.

      In November 1955, the Soviet-Norwegian negotiations held in Moscow led to Norway's official refusal to deploy foreign bases and nuclear weapons on its territory.
      Film-document №15531: STORY TRANSFER OF THE PORKKALA-UDD FINLAND TERRITORY .. (1956)
      The withdrawal of Soviet troops and the transfer of the Finnish peninsula were completed in 1956.
      -----------



      3. About "contributions" (or rather your statement about the absence thereof)

      Finland was the only country to fully pay military reparations to Russia
      (in the amount of 226,5 million dollars).

      In accordance with the armistice agreement of the year 1944, Finland was supposed to pay the USSR reparations in the amount of 6 million over the course of 330 years to reparate the damage caused during the Second World War. gold dollars.

      The repayment term was extended at the end of the 1945 year to 8 years, and in the summer of 1948 year the amount of reparations was reduced to 226,5 million gold dollars.

      The share of reparations from Finland's GDP in 1944 was 0,3%, and in 1945, 5,6%.
      Something under the contract knocked off the USSR, something (in my opinion for rent), something settled The Agreement on the final settlement in relation to Germany (Edik Shevardnadze Schaub slept badly)
  41. Real stalinist
    Real stalinist 5 May 2016 18: 16
    0
    Roma, zhoshosh !!! good
  42. Timmer
    Timmer 5 May 2016 19: 04
    -1
    The Finns rolled us out on Mannerheim in such a way, so that the author pushed the topic a little off topic. We washed ourselves there with blood, and it was us who attacked the Finns, and not they on us. Northerners generally breathe evenly for us, that Swedes, that Finns. They have their own dispositions, they do not put an emphasis on Russophobia in their politics. And by the way the Scandinavians are fighting well. And if the war goes, then everything will be tight, we won’t crush them easily. Here you really have to tear, and the whole country, as usual.
    1. Old warrior
      Old warrior 7 May 2016 23: 02
      -1
      What a dubby in the world! Whom is this you? During the Finnish War, we achieved ALL GOALS and broke through the Marenheim Line. There was nothing similar in Europe at that moment. Losses amounted to 285 thousand people on our part, and the Finns lost 235 thousand people. And do not read all kinds of bullshit like rizun. The Finns LOSED this war.
      1. Timmer
        Timmer 8 May 2016 11: 49
        0
        So we started the war. They wanted a quick war game to win, and with such an inequality of power, just pornography came out.
  43. misterwulf
    misterwulf 5 May 2016 20: 04
    0
    And who in 1941 attacked Leningrad? Are the Albanians really? Or gypsies?
    1. Old warrior
      Old warrior 7 May 2016 23: 07
      0
      Here's my word of honor, pulls on the mat: and this war the Finns ALSO LOST. Check out "Steel Storm". If not for the Germans, hell would Suomi twitch in 1941.
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  44. misterwulf
    misterwulf 5 May 2016 20: 21
    0
    .Official occupation of the USSR by Finland was not, as it were
    opus
    Whatever or not? Was it or wasn’t? You have already decided on the Truths-Wrongs and be honest with yourself.
    1. opus
      opus 5 May 2016 20: 36
      +1
      Quote: misterwulf
      Whatever or not? Was it or wasn’t? You have already decided on the Truths-Wrongs and be honest with yourself.

      I’m honest. But you’re a balabol

      I substantiate:

      Quote: misterwulf
      Have escaped occupation and indemnities. Handed over (until the end of the war) base Navy and airfields.

      ?

      Quote: opus
      The withdrawal of Soviet troops and the transfer of the Finnish peninsula were completed in 1956.

      Quote: opus
      Finland was the only country to fully pay military reparations to Russia
      (in the amount of 226,5 million dollars).


      ---------------------
      And officially (as it were), according to the "standards", there was no occupation.
      The base of the USSR Navy was to 1956, on the territory of a foreign country. Here and consider "it was or was not." "is it not true"
  45. realist
    realist 6 May 2016 13: 53
    0
    Quote: am808s
    Quote: nemec55
    Given, for example, that the budget of Latvia itself is only 10-11 times larger than in my Voronezh region. But we have no pain in the face of external aggression

    The problem is only one or not one .im this money is enough for roads and pensions and we have it like a hole. That is why the Balts and their ilk do not want to live with rich and generous Russia but want to live so much with rotting Europe. And what should we do in this situation ???? I always say you need to create a kursavel in your country (everywhere) to reach us. But in fact we can offer only Vorkuta

    Correctly. The club is not being driven to Paradise. I do not agree with Vorkuta. A lot of good will be revealed to the seeker in Russia would be willing to see it!


    I did not understand what does the workout have to do with it? don’t touch it, there’s nothing good there, the city is dying, there’s no work, a 3-room apartment costs less than a million ....... and to organize a courchevel in Vorkuta district? I want to see, from the city to the foothills more than 100 kilometers on the dirt road (belonging to Gazprom) there is no connection, I myself work for another 150 km. further, at the construction of the gas pipeline ...... and our defense capability everyone knows who needs it and they don’t check, they know what and where it usually ends. As for the Minister of Defense (and all the big bosses), I agree - they should start from the bottom and grow, not sit in the chair right away from the desks of Cambridge or Oxford.
  46. iouris
    iouris 7 May 2016 16: 58
    0
    The Soviet generation is gradually leaving, and, therefore, things are heading for a denouement, so there are no more "neutrals" in the world.
    Sweden has always been the "tail" of the United States. Historically Finland is part of Sweden.
  47. Comrade Stalin
    Comrade Stalin 7 May 2016 17: 22
    0
    We don’t need an arms race. We have dofig weapons, let’s improve other areas.
  48. misterwulf
    misterwulf 8 May 2016 00: 44
    0
    Quote: opus
    I’m honest. But you’re a balabol

    Here is one of us balabol? We were in Suomi until 1956 and left. The United States is still present in almost all of Europe, and this is not an occupation, but an alliance?
    You have a logic problem or iodine deficiency.
  49. RedBaron
    RedBaron 8 May 2016 07: 34
    -1
    And you can wonder what the Air Force achieved in Syria? Asad sat on a narrow strip and sits with the Alawites (success), and what else?
    1. Protonych
      Protonych 8 May 2016 15: 45
      0
      Many things!!! And at the same time showed the crowd of partisans who call themselves a coalition! How to bomb, for how long and on which to fly !!!
  50. Protonych
    Protonych 8 May 2016 15: 38
    0
    The Yankees certainly are greyhounds but the main excuse is the bastard, this is undoubtedly England !!! Eminence grise!!!! It’s a pity that Hitler didn’t get them then! ((((((Well, if only this island is sunk, the situation in NATO will change !!! It would be very nice to place a couple of divisions on a regular basis in Serbia and Iskander with helicopters !!! there every day in all directions at the studies!)))) It would be a good skin bomb in the ass of Europe !!!