Media: Rosgvardiya will receive AK-74М

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Rosgvardi subunits will receive the upgraded AK-74M assault rifles, reports RIA News TASS message.

Media: Rosgvardiya will receive AK-74М


“AK-74M is a compromise solution before adopting the new AEK-971 and AK-12 submachine guns, second only to their weight and accuracy. The upgraded AK-74 is a new telescopic butt, a new receiver lid, a modern barrel trim and forearm, on which the Picatinny integrated slats are located, thanks to which the collimator, optical and night sights can be mounted on the machine gun, ”
Ruslan Pukhov, director of the Russian Union of gunsmiths, told the agency.

According to him, “the machine can also be mounted weapons flashlights, devices for low-noise shooting and effective flash suppressors. "

Pukhov added that "the design used a new belt, a translator fuse and an ergonomic fire control grip."

“The proposed set of changes allows not only to improve the ergonomics of weapons, but also to individually customize each model to fulfill certain tactical tasks on the battlefield at any time of the day,” he said.

According to TASS, "in the arsenal of" Kalashnikov "- three sets of sets of additional equipment for the modernization of machine guns caliber 5,45 and 7,62 millimeter: for combined-arms units, troop intelligence, as well as for units that are part of special operations forces."

According to the director general of Kalashnikov, Alexei Krivoruchko, “the Ministry of Defense has large stocks of AK-74 assault rifles and there is no sense in purchasing the same weapons,” therefore the concern conducted a series of design and development works on the Obves program in order to increase the effectiveness of the weapon.

“Today we receive from the army warehouses automata of the second category, which have lain for several decades, carry out repairs and upgrades, after which modern optical-electronic aiming devices, laser designators, gun lights, low-noise shooting equipment and a flame arrester can be installed on the machine, increases the efficiency of the product several times, ”said Krivoruchko.

As a result, according to him, “it turns out an automatic machine for a professional army”. From security agencies have already received orders for "several tens of thousands of upgraded kits."
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  1. +18
    4 May 2016 11: 45
    AK-74m we have since the beginning of 90's
    1. +10
      4 May 2016 11: 56
      Quote: kot11180
      “AK-74M is a compromise decision before adopting the new AEK-971 and AK-12 assault rifles, second only to them in weight and accuracy of fire

      A compromise he and in Africa a compromise. We write the accuracy and weight in minus, we write reliability, time tested and reserves at the storage bases as a plus. The rest is the question: what will happen when they adopt the AEK-971 or AK-12?
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      2. +2
        4 May 2016 12: 42
        Quote: Scary_L.
        Quote: kot11180
        “AK-74M is a compromise decision before adopting the new AEK-971 and AK-12 assault rifles, second only to them in weight and accuracy of fire

        A compromise he and in Africa a compromise. We write the accuracy and weight in minus, we write reliability, time tested and reserves at the storage bases as a plus. The rest is the question: what will happen when they adopt the AEK-971 or AK-12?


        How will it be, as always, push the thread, to Africa or somewhere else, not much)))))
        1. +13
          4 May 2016 18: 10
          Quote: Stalker.1977
          , to Africa or elsewhere, not much)))))

          - often in the reports they show how in Syria (yes, and not only there) they shoot from AK assault rifles - they raise the gun on outstretched arms above the parapet and scorch it while waving the barrel. Didn’t they ask a question: but on ... an assault rifle, a particular accuracy is that if, according to statistics, 99% of rifle ammunition is intentionally released without aiming?
          We had a machine gunner - a shooter with great gift, so he shot offhand and on the go and always the first short was enough. In a calm environment, like the skeet shooter in the photo to this note, I am confidently using AKM-74 to hit from 400 meters, and when the fragments buzz, the smoke eats away, the sand in my eyes, I would have to wave the barrel like a fire hose.
      3. +4
        4 May 2016 12: 56
        According to the director general of Kalashnikov, Alexei Krivoruchko, “the Ministry of Defense has large stocks of AK-74 assault rifles and there is no sense in purchasing the same weapons,” therefore the concern conducted a series of design and development works on the Obves program in order to increase the effectiveness of the weapon.

        In general, they will not give nova to the guys.
        1. Dam
          +3
          4 May 2016 22: 13
          Yes, in this kit AKM completely solves all the modern tasks of a fighter of the Russian Guard. Need to upgrade SVD. The people do not always understand that the AK figuratives are magnificent, reliable, fairly accurate weapons of a mass fighter, for a big war. And thinner tools need special equipment.
      4. 0
        4 May 2016 14: 40
        Nothing will happen - the new machines will go primarily to the special forces, and everyone else will wait for the decommissioning of the old AK 74.
        1. +1
          4 May 2016 17: 25
          Quote: Vadim237
          Nothing will happen - the new machines will go primarily to the special forces, and everyone else will wait for the decommissioning of the old AK 74.

          where does pessimism come from? in the 80s there were mountains of AKM in warehouses, and AK-74 but, in the army, they replaced them with AK-45-he received in the 81st ...
          1. 0
            4 May 2016 17: 50
            Alas, the USSR is no longer there - and, accordingly, the rapid replacement of one machine with another too.
      5. +3
        4 May 2016 14: 45
        Terrible_L: "In the remainder we have the question: what will happen when the AEK-971 or AK-12 are adopted?"
        What will happen ...? Yes, just "... will be adopted by the AEK-971 or AK-12." Accordingly, the accuracy and weight will go into a plus. It will be possible to talk about reliability only after a certain time of operation in various conditions and the accumulation of certain statistics.
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      7. +1
        4 May 2016 14: 53
        most likely it will play a role - the price, which is cheaper to establish an issue, will go into series.
      8. +1
        4 May 2016 17: 06
        Quote: Scary_L.
        The rest is the question: what will happen when they adopt the AEK-971 or AK-12?


        There will be 2025 on the calendar and maybe the thirtieth, but I think there will be no more banderlogs. Well, in general, something in the world will change. hi
      9. +2
        4 May 2016 18: 04
        Quote: Scary_L.
        The rest is the question: what will happen when they adopt the AEK-971 or AK-12?


        They will indulge before the first combat use and will hand them back to the warehouse in exchange for the old AK-74M (classic without "modifications").
    2. +15
      4 May 2016 11: 58
      The article is about these very machines. They have not gone anywhere. They just put a new body kit, that's all the modernization. The performance characteristics remained the same, relatives. We changed the stock, pistol grip, fore-end with a gas tube for a warehouse. On the integrated rails "Picatinny" will offer a small bunch of various attachments.
      1. +17
        4 May 2016 12: 26
        And why is Vovanam something more advanced? For their purposes, quite normal. Massively and cheaply. It is clear that the special forces will be armed differently, and even more so. Well, for ordinary parts ak74m is quite suitable and inexpensive.
        1. +9
          4 May 2016 12: 32
          No, now, for two weeks now, the Vovanov, the SOBR and the nettles. Now All Together - National Guard request
          1. +6
            4 May 2016 12: 39
            Andrei VV NIS, as well as SOBR, are not former. We live and we will live no matter what.
            1. +8
              4 May 2016 12: 51
              Agree hi
              The same eggs, only side view laughing
          2. +1
            4 May 2016 13: 18
            And all this is now part of NG. And no one canceled the Krapovieki and the sobr has not yet been renamed. Functions will remain and units too - just change the training of subordination and chevrons. request
          3. 0
            4 May 2016 23: 00
            [quote = Andrey K] No, now, for two weeks now, there have been, Vovanov, SOBR and nettles. Now, all together - the National Guard: --- Actually --- RUSSIA GUARD !!!! wink
        2. -30
          4 May 2016 13: 30
          That's right, a wooden baton with hammered nails is enough for VoVans, and western uniforms, equipment and short barrels will be bought for specialists, Well, and AK-74M to the west.
          1. 0
            4 May 2016 19: 18
            We, as you called Vovanam, were trusted by the test of all small arms. Example of ACSU 7.62
      2. -7
        4 May 2016 13: 23
        I look at the "flame arrester compensator" - to the pain of what it recalls. Hanging copied or purchased "planks" means "Modernization"?
        1. +1
          4 May 2016 19: 58
          You can buy these straps in any tool shop.
    3. +4
      4 May 2016 12: 15
      Well, why did the year of release prevent you. How to shoot and with the body kit became even more accurate and more effective. What is the scale of the production scare. We can provide picasrini
    4. +2
      4 May 2016 12: 54
      And now we read VERY carefully.
      “AK-74M is a compromise decision before adopting new AEK-971 and AK-12 assault rifles, inferior to them only in weight and accuracy of fire.

      И
      The upgraded AK-74 is a new telescopic stock, a new receiver cover, a modern receiver pad and fore-end ..

      Who prioritized ??? fool
    5. +1
      4 May 2016 17: 21
      Quote: kot11180
      AK-74m we have since the beginning of 90's

      NOT THIS modification ...
      1. +1
        4 May 2016 19: 20
        We have been doing the body kit ourselves for a long time, but there are no other differences.
    6. +2
      4 May 2016 18: 01
      Quote: kot11180


      AK-74m we have since the beginning of 90's


      The weapon is secret. The director of the union of gunsmiths Pukhov may not know. Especially Krivoruchko.
  2. +10
    4 May 2016 11: 48
    That's really surprised. He is in service with 1991. Just a stunning news!
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    2. +2
      4 May 2016 11: 53
      Quote: ohotnik101
      That's really surprised. He is in service with 1991. Just a stunning news!

      The news is not that they are armed with the AK-74, but the news is that they are armed with the MODERNIZED ones.
      1. +1
        4 May 2016 11: 58
        AK-74M in service with the 1991 year. AK-74 - from 1975 year. What is there to understand? He and so modernized)
      2. 0
        4 May 2016 12: 51
        The title is spelled correctly

        Upgraded AK-74m (upgraded).

        And then in the article the nonsense went written that the old AK-74 is being modernized
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      4. +1
        4 May 2016 12: 52
        He hints that this is at least an AK-74M2
    3. +3
      4 May 2016 13: 29
      And how do you like the "body kit" program?
      I kit is associated except in the market ... belay
      1. 0
        4 May 2016 19: 43
        No kit is not on the market. 222 no one has canceled. Arms market too. The act is different. Sometimes it can come !!!!!
  3. 0
    4 May 2016 11: 49
    This is all good, but why not try something else, well, as if for a test purpose.
    1. 0
      4 May 2016 12: 09
      with a test purpose to arm 400 people? :) Seriously?
    2. 0
      4 May 2016 15: 56
      Quote: KIBL
      This is all good, but why not try something else, well, as if for a test purpose.

      Yes they try. But limited. It’s just that these AKs were stamped at the time, just an enormous amount — all army warehouses are crammed on the roof! Now they are trying to save money and make candy request
  4. -6
    4 May 2016 11: 52
    What is it? They had already squeezed everything out of AK, although it could have been done back in the 60s-70s, maybe it is time to come up with something really new? Or let’s upgrade the Mosin rifle to unconsciousness.
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    2. +2
      4 May 2016 11: 58
      Quote: kit-kat
      They had already squeezed everything out of AK, although it could have been done back in the 60s-70s, maybe it is time to come up with something really new?

      Came up with AEK-971 ,ADS и ASH-12.
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      2. +8
        4 May 2016 12: 03
        Quote: RUSS
        ASh-12.

        Designed specifically for units of the FSB ASH-12 (assault machine), caliber 12.7
        1. 0
          4 May 2016 15: 43
          punch shelters and personal protection means from 400 meters)))
        2. -1
          4 May 2016 19: 43
          Quote: RUSS
          Designed specifically for units of the FSB ASH-12 (assault machine), caliber 12.7

          I am not very versed in machine guns, but from a 12,7 caliber machine gun, in my opinion, only "bogatyrs" 115 - 120 kg in weight will be able to shoot (and will they?). And then only singly. Try to hold it down when you fire a burst. Even 12,7mm machine guns were installed either on a wheeled machine or on a bipod.
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      4. +7
        4 May 2016 12: 05
        Quote: RUSS
        ADS

        ADS (Two-Medium Special Special) is a Russian rifle-grenade launcher built on a bullpup layout and designed to replace APS and AK74M assault rifles in special units of the Russian Navy
        1. avt
          +3
          4 May 2016 12: 33
          Quote: RUSS
          ADS

          A-91M its base and predecessor is a very nice and compact roll.
      5. +1
        4 May 2016 12: 25
        Invented, but not allowed into the troops. Some incomprehensible half schemes come up.
    3. +15
      4 May 2016 12: 02
      There are 74 ok millions in the warehouses! what the hell are the new samples куда and where to put the warehouse!? the national guard is 400000 people. They will give out 74 with upgrades. With modified butts and fire translators. Flame arresters and piccatini strips. Turn on the brain when you read! and stop whining like babies
    4. +9
      4 May 2016 12: 15
      Mybearing my son lol Mosinka is sacred, God forbid all rifles such survivability Yes
    5. +31
      4 May 2016 12: 26
      They cannot squeeze out of AK to the end, as you put it, because there is no fundamentally new weapon. All the same bullets and barrels. From the oldies, the AKS cannot fully squeeze out the potential, and you are talking to AK-74. They will still shoot and shoot, since the weapon is reliable, and this is one of the main factors why it is in service. A good example, look at what the Russian special forces are armed with. All the same AK-74 only modernized. And this is not because there are no others, but because the quality and reliability of these weapons is beyond doubt. The methodology of training shooters must be changed and you will be happy.
      1. +1
        4 May 2016 22: 18
        Hold Kalash almost motionless! This is YES! hi
        1. 0
          5 May 2016 12: 40
          recoil does not hit the shooter, but as if absorbed by it, and further the impulse is scattered by the back and hind leg ...

          a bit messy - I'm not an instructor ..
    6. 0
      4 May 2016 22: 33
      Quote: kit-kat
      maybe it’s time to come up with something really new

      What for? For an ordinary soldier, a super-sophisticated assault rifle is simply useless, that is, it will shoot from it, but essentially nothing will change ..
  5. +2
    4 May 2016 11: 52
    Upgrade = cheaper than any new release! Do not arm them!
  6. -5
    4 May 2016 11: 55
    and what's the news? again equipping with weapons, which was in stock.
    All these stories about increasing efficiency several times are just noodles.
    Again they found a cheaper option, but simpler.
    Uncertainty between AEK and AK-12 has been hanging for more than a year. And everything hangs, hangs ...
    1. 0
      4 May 2016 12: 04
      what uncertainty ??? both samples accepted
      1. +5
        4 May 2016 14: 42
        Well, yes, accepted, like Abakan.
        you do not know that between the acceptance and receipt of the abyss?
  7. +1
    4 May 2016 11: 55
    Guys. People. I think they know better there, the more likely they will use other small arms. And no worse. Maybe it's just a duck?
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  9. +4
    4 May 2016 12: 08
    for me the AK-74 is not bad without modernization, the AKM is even better. Well, if only the National Guard needs some sights on the machine gun to catch and flashlights, then yes, then the AK-74M
  10. 0
    4 May 2016 12: 32
    It is better to take a couple of samples besides AEK and AK-12. Or about five. Each part has its own trunk! And it’s possible for each platoon. After all, the dough is great, enough for everyone. And more calibers. 5,45; 7,62; 6,5; 6,8. Awesome!

    In the choice of 5,45 caliber, the main idea is the warehouses full of cartridges. And 7,62 is enough. But 7,62 is a high breakdown action and a stopping one too. Less BC, less accuracy. But! Accuracy increased in AK-12. The kit also helps a little. And most importantly - do not peel bursts beyond 50 meters. And the quality of the ammunition is also important.
    If the National Guard is positioned as a pro team, then they just need 7,62. What guided them in making the decision is unknown. But the result is very ... impressive. Although it is not clear what.
    1. +4
      4 May 2016 15: 16
      Quote: erased

      If the National Guard is positioned as a pro team, then they just need 7,62. What guided them in making the decision is unknown.


      The opinion of these same pros and guided.
      I noticed that the most zealous "seven" are defended by those who did not hold a machine gun at 5,45 in their hands, or did - but even in the days of Afgan.
      At the same time, it’s no secret that the vast majority real instead of sofa specialists, 5,45 have long been chosen. It has higher accuracy, flatness, armor penetration, more BK and less recoil.

      Machines under 7,62 have some advantage in the highlands and dense forest / jungle. But the percentage of such TVDs against the general background is scanty, and they do not make weather. So the choice of weapons for the Rus Guards is justified.
      And if you cook it, no one bothers to arm yourself with a different caliber before the operation.
  11. 0
    4 May 2016 12: 53
    ak 74 sell to africa and asia
  12. -9
    4 May 2016 13: 18
    Here it is! Even if they are old, they are automatic machines. Let the problem be accurate, but you won’t miss the crowd by the crowd. Not pompoviki with rubber bullets, as in the rotten west, not non-lethal gas mixtures, but cheaply and angrily, we will not spoil you.
    I read above, it became sickening, all so businesslike, reason-squeaky, how much now, but cho handier.
    It's okay, how it will press, but it will definitely press, go, "iksperty", to the street, look for the truth, but on your own sides you will learn both the accuracy and "obsolescence"
    Just now I don’t need angry rebuffs for terrorists and saboteurs. A couple of regiments, even divisions, special forces, would be enough for them to drive in the mountains. But 400 thousand is a dessert for his people. With 5,45 caliber assault rifles! ! -5,45 for his people! Whoever shot this crap knows what wounded speech is, if any, then deeply disabled cripples. Or maybe it’s planned, disability pensions and now there is not enough for everyone.
    1. -2
      4 May 2016 13: 42
      Now begin to minus ...
      1. +4
        4 May 2016 23: 16
        and there is a reason
    2. +11
      4 May 2016 14: 51
      and you didn’t mix anything up?
      why is the National Guard recorded in punitive?
      firstly, the National Guard does not increase the number of security forces, this, as I understand it,
      regrouping under a different unifying charter with other powers and capabilities
      These are THE SAME people who were also armed before and did not use weapons against the population. And this is logical - the structure should change over time
      secondly, you did not forget what problems were during the coup with orders to use the army in the city? This is not Ukraine, where hathaskray steers.
      a unit that has the function of shooting civilians with machine guns will fall apart.
      Are those who fear this right? Are right! Are those who scare this right? Yes, it's just provocateurs for the reasons described above.
      Stop stirring up the water
      1. -4
        4 May 2016 21: 35
        enough muddy water
        --------------------------
        Yeah, water means torment. And for starters, you read the law on the National Guard, on its duties and powers. And you think what this new unit is. Nothing new. Seven kids (BB) in a new way. Perhaps, when they watched on declassified archives on TV about the Novocherkassk shooting of workers, their fists clenched in righteous anger at the commies? Ah type of bastards sort of. But Bloody Sunday, if you are not a victim of the USE, you should know from the school curriculum. So I’ll cheat you. That regime, system, dictator, is bad, it’s not important who cannot protect itself. And the functions of the explosives, at all times, were the same — dispersal of demonstrators, strikers, pogroms, etc., encroaching on the foundations of power. And you can call them anything you like. Tonton makuta, black hundred, death squads, guardsmen, or, say, very nice-nat (grew) guard. The function DOES NOT CHANGE! And do not wag your tail here for natural disasters. In our country, unlike the United States, there is one Lyam of the Ministry of Emergencies, by the way. The question is different. How to overclock? At a time when the whole world (rotten west) is on the path of gentle pressure, non-lethal weapons, and I assure you, there are a great many of them, starting from rubber bullets, by the way, in the west there is a sign of bad manners (too many fatal cases), and ending with the gases that cause, sorry indomitable diarrhea for 10-15 minutes. So, we are not philosophizing slyly, these units are armed with a firearm. But the firearm also happens different. There are a bunch of rattles with a weakened cartridge of 50-100 range in order to exclude accidental victims . But it’s expensive when the stock is full of AK-74. Random casualties? And peep out the windows. Well, think about demography in the red. Well, oil will fly at 100 bucks, cattle of pieces of 50 for giving birth to a child, we’ll give up all the nonsense! I’m for those who work on TV on a hair dryer every day voicing.
        1. +2
          4 May 2016 22: 35
          Quote: guzik007
          First, read the law on the National Guard

          And you look what is happening in Ukraine.
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      1. +2
        4 May 2016 16: 22
        "America has 500 American National Guard" ////

        The National Guard in the United States does not obey the president, but
        local authorities across all 50 states.
        In addition, they are reservists, they are not in active service.
        1. +1
          4 May 2016 17: 20
          Quote: voyaka uh

          The National Guard in the United States does not obey the president, but
          local authorities across all 50 states.


          Wrong. They have double subordination - to the state and federal.
          The governor directs them to rake after disasters and resolve unrest, and by decision of the president, they can be used to support the US Army and Air Force, including outside the United States.

          Quote: voyaka uh
          In addition, they are reservists, they are not in active service.
          From this they lost tanks and helicopters from weapons? or decreased combat efficiency? Or have they ceased to participate in all recent local conflicts (for example, about 300 national guardsmen have visited Afghanistan)?
          further quote:
          "The National Guard of the United States consists of individuals with sufficient military training who are relatively recently completed military service and do not need additional training".

          So this is not for you 50 year old uncles who forgot to shoot from which end, but quite professional troops.
    4. +1
      4 May 2016 16: 40
      Quote: guzik007
      But 400 thousand is a dessert for his people. With 5,45 caliber assault rifles! ! -5,45 for his people!

      "Funny buffoon
      Fedot contemplated, convened an honest people. The neighbors decided to help Fedya. Frol took a stake, Ustin took a drin, Ignat took a hold. And all for Fedot to the Tsar’s Gate. To meet them general, damn him! He jumped up sideways, flashed a pupil, made a spy - and to the king for a report! ..
      Gen.
      Gathered there at the gate
      Entot ... like him ... people!
      In general, it takes
      Social turnover!
      And to blame Fedot,
      Anto he stirs up people, -
      Beats up the population
      Make a coup! ..
      King
      Well, and you,
      With an saber like that?
      We’re holding you for that,
      So that the coast of the tsars rest!
      After the rain on thursday
      I'll give you a medal over
      Only you try
      So that the people don't overthrow me! .. "
      L. A. Filatov
    5. 0
      4 May 2016 21: 52
      Quote: guzik007
      But 400 thousand is a dessert for his people.

      - 400 thousand new ones recruited in Poland and Latvia, except for those that were previously in different departments?
      Usually, I answer a question to encourage self-study of the topic not in the headings of articles.
  13. -15
    4 May 2016 14: 03
    Is the National Guard 400000 people? And how much is the army? And how many pensioners, how many people with disabilities, how many children of preschool and school age, and how many in the police and the FSIN, the FSB, how many in the private security company, how many envoys in parliaments of different levels, how many in governments of different regions? God, how many different lawyers! How many jesters, sorry, artists. How many New Year and May holidays? And who will work when? How willingly, lying on the couch, to blame the State Department’s machinations!
    1. -4
      4 May 2016 21: 40
      It's only the beginning!
    2. +3
      4 May 2016 22: 38
      Quote: hrad
      How willingly, lying on the couch, to blame the State Department’s machinations!

      Which really wants the army, police and special services of Russia to disappear. In the 90s this has already passed - change the training manual.
  14. 0
    4 May 2016 15: 25
    Rosguard will receive AK-74M assault rifles
    What kind of unit is this, enlighten someone!
    1. +1
      4 May 2016 15: 36
      Marcel, there are so many copies already broken about the national guard of Russia, all the special equipment of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, VV, Passport and Visa, GNK and likeOVO were driven there. However, the Decree of the Darkest
    2. +1
      4 May 2016 15: 47
      Personal troops of Putin. Against who?? Here, Russophobic liberals and simple populations have diametrically opposite sentences))
  15. +2
    4 May 2016 15: 38
    In skillful hands and PPSh will be a terrible and deadly weapon! Yeah what i say feel PPSh, even an ordinary stick - a staff and that will be a weapon !!! It all depends on the skills of the one who has a weapon in his hands.
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  17. 0
    4 May 2016 15: 44
    Found a problem in excess AK. You just need to offer the population, any normal one will buy both an assault rifle and a gun and cartridges for a pair of zincs, and if you also organize shooting ranges, so that anyone can come, shoot their weapons, just shoot. I even know with the image of whom the targets will be in mad demand.
    1. 0
      4 May 2016 18: 16
      Yes, everyone knows, so they will not give this to the population
    2. 0
      4 May 2016 18: 16
      Yes, everyone knows, so they will not give this to the population
  18. +1
    4 May 2016 15: 48
    Petrov was amazed) to water from a machine gun and especially to Stechkin!
  19. 0
    4 May 2016 18: 09
    Everything would be fine, but the very principle of the formation of this Rosguard confuses me. Abroad, the national guard is formed of civilian volunteers working in the civilian area, who do not receive a large allowance for the basic salary and are a reserve of the Ministry of Emergencies and explosives. I’m afraid that in the Russian Federation it will be unclear what will be costly, and the chip of which they will start writing reports again, so as not to go on a business trip, shake for their pensions, substituting soldiers under enemy bullets, for the sake of high command, in the worst traditions of the army of the 90s .
  20. -3
    4 May 2016 18: 12
    production is collapsed, it remains only to make previously produced trunks with an imported body kit
    1. +6
      4 May 2016 18: 46
      Quote: D24081973
      production is collapsed, it remains only to make previously produced trunks with an imported body kit

      .... do not bag you to roll.
      1. -1
        4 May 2016 23: 25
        stupid propaganda, God forbid that 15% of the former capacities be renewed, and the rest is worn out in the trash, even the equipment is not enough "drill bit, etc." And at the expense of ....... do not roll bags, so it's no stranger to you along the way
      2. +1
        4 May 2016 23: 25
        stupid propaganda, God forbid that 15% of the former capacities be renewed, and the rest is worn out in the trash, even the equipment is not enough "drill bit, etc." And at the expense of ....... do not roll bags, so it's no stranger to you along the way
  21. 0
    4 May 2016 18: 26
    Here you are arguing which machine is better, but I’m more worried about nakoy, another military structure with such a big name. Soon, the old EDRO wants to rest (the old people already) if they had conceived the secret police. ????
    1. +1
      4 May 2016 18: 56
      Quote: nemec55
      and I’m more worried about nakoy, another military structure with such a big name


      They will choke and crush all the scum that is preparing an armed uprising in Russia.
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        4 May 2016 19: 15
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  22. -6
    4 May 2016 20: 49
    The Americans use an aluminum butt pipe because it has a spring buffer in it ...
    There is no buffer with a spring in the AK, but ours copy the entire assembly with the pipe ... If the designers have no brain at all, so Magpool has already created a butt for AK
    The rail on the receiver cover .... this cover is not aligned with the barrel, it has a backlash and therefore cannot be used to set sights.
    The rail for sight can be fixed only on the barrel or on the forearm which is coaxial with the barrel and motionless.
    How miserable are the Kalashnikov modernizers, this machine is not suitable for modernization.
    That would give the Russian soldier at least a day to shoot with a tuned M4 ... Kalash would fly to the garbage dump IMHO.
    Back in the year 74 it was necessary to write off
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      4 May 2016 23: 37
      I look in the garbage dump of the World alone "Kalash" lie, fear God or Allah, what are you talking about ?? wassat Einstein automaton world lol I can't understand that you are not satisfied with the name or purpose of the new division? The army is intended for an external enemy-aggressor, terrorists cannot be called such. Nevertheless, it is a formidable adversary who fights mainly in settlements. Are you going to do an operation on appendicitis with a saber? We need a scalpel, which is what the Russian Guard is going to do with a single subordination and unification of all SOBR, OMON, Internal Troops, etc. for a centralized command. What's so bad about it? So each department has its own special forces. And when it comes to the handle, do they not drive martial law? Curfew? Who should be involved in this dirty business? We call the cops "goats", but don't we call them, if that? It is clear there is an elite - different berets, no offense. When marauders appear and the crowd is controlled over the Internet, who will stop them? You are shot here in 1905, etc. attributed, and what is better anarchy? Some victims of the Cheka, OGPU, NKVD, SMERSH gathered. It seems that they used to call the national government ????? Previously, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the State Security Service were in the same structure. Half of you read some nonsense, what is this? who is it? Do you read newspapers in general or TV nakrajnyak? It is clear that for a large-scale army operation or a sweep operation, different weapons are required. But excuse me, in the process of eating food you mainly use a spoon, a more versatile device. Or does everyone carry with them tools for eating mussels and oysters? You read, every second great sniper, such subtleties as if you carry an aiming station with a radar on your head, taking into account the wind speed, humidity, gravity of the Earth, finally. I'm sure half of the AK-47 will not be distinguished from the AKM. Conscripts serve for 1 year !!! What do you want to arm him with? He disassembled and assembled under demobilization only to learn the machine. The Americans did not go far from the M-16 either. You need to shoot more often, this is the same skill that requires constant training. Whoever owns a machine gun is a weapon.
  23. +2
    4 May 2016 22: 24
    And I just loved, love and will love AK47, with or without body kit !!! And who doesn’t have enough bk, I recommend using a single fire mode rather than a fire hose mode.
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    5 May 2016 04: 30
    Quote: Sorokin
    Well, why did the year of release prevent you. How to shoot and with the body kit became even more accurate and more effective. What is the scale of the production scare. We can provide picasrini

    The weapon itself doesn’t shoot ..., well, it doesn’t have a head or hands .. Just as not all bipedal people are friends with their heads - enough of them are generally contraindicated to do anything physically - there may be damage .. As there in a proverb - make a fool pray to god - his forehead will break ..

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