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Pakistan may contact another supplier if Washington refuses to subsidize the purchase of F-16

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Islamabad is likely to turn to another fighter supplier if the United States does not provide subsidies for the purchase of F-16. RIA News Statement by Advisor to Pakistani Prime Minister Sartaj Aziz.




Initially it was assumed that Pakistan would pay only $ 8 million for the 270 fighters. The Pentagon had to pay the rest of the money.

However, on Monday, the US State Department announced that “a deal on favorable terms is impossible,” and Islamabad will have to pay more than $ 700 million for airplanes.

The Pakistani government "highly appreciates the effectiveness of American fighters, but in conducting an antiterrorist campaign, they can be replaced by JF-17 Thunder fighters produced in China and Pakistan," the agency said.

Previously, the issue of preferential supply of fighters was considered practically resolved. At the end of April, the American representative for Pakistan and Afghanistan, Richard Olson, stated that "the sale of American F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan will help strengthen security in the region."
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  1. St Petrov
    St Petrov 4 May 2016 10: 48
    +15
    I thought only kakely possess 80lvl arrogance

    the mattress has its own parasites)

    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 4 May 2016 10: 51
      +14
      Quote: s-t Petrov
      I thought only kakely possess 80lvl arrogance

      Yes, there’s nothing to do with kakelas here, rather China is pushing its own. China has long established cooperation with Pakistan. yes
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 4 May 2016 11: 01
        +8
        700 million / 8 = $ 87,5 million per fighter. Something too expensive for the F-16.
        1. Kostyar
          Kostyar 4 May 2016 11: 06
          +1
          Buy Our planes!
          Inexpensive, reliable and efficient!
          And most importantly, ultramodern !!!
          1. cniza
            cniza 4 May 2016 12: 09
            +3
            Quote: 79807420129
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            I thought only kakely possess 80lvl arrogance

            Yes, there’s nothing to do with kakelas here, rather China is pushing its own. China has long established cooperation with Pakistan. yes


            Here China will push its own, and the United States does not want to concede. Very interesting situation.
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 4 May 2016 18: 43
              +1
              So these are the gingerbread cookies offered by the USA after straining with Pakistan.
              Remember, even the transit of vehicles was prohibited, the Taliban (Pashtuns) attacked fuel trucks. The Yankees then ran wild in Pakistan (there were even "erroneous" drone attacks on Pakistani military personnel; what to say about the capture of Bin Laden and the bombing of weddings) that the government was forced to react. The cooling of relations began, but then they "agreed" and probably these F-16s from the promised gingerbread. And now, apparently because of relations with the PRC, they decided to "cut". There will be a lesson for the Pakistanis. hi
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        2. GSH-18
          GSH-18 4 May 2016 11: 11
          0
          Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
          700 million / 8 = $ 87,5 million per fighter. Something too expensive for the F-16.

          The Americans have never been shy. This is like a brand!
        3. Pimply
          Pimply 4 May 2016 20: 47
          0
          Nobody sells cars clean
    2. DMB_95
      DMB_95 4 May 2016 11: 00
      0
      If these parasites find a common language with China, staff members will lose (in every sense) much more than 700 million bucks
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 4 May 2016 11: 58
        +12
        So, they found a long time ago. After Musharaf, all governments are actively moving closer to China.

        China is building factories, including high-tech.

        Also, Pakistan purchases, or rather builds / completes weapons at home.

        Fleet:
        The frigates of Zulfikar, which replace the British Type-21. This is a Chinese project adapted to Pakistan. Simple - SAM Krotal (or rather Chinese FN-90), RCC Exoset (or rather Chinese C-802А), AK-176 (or rather Chinese licensed clone in a new cap), MZA Goalkeeper (or rather Chinese clone), 6 Chinese torpedoes of MK-46 alloy and the Italian small-caliber system, plus the Z-9 helicopter.

        Army:
        MBT Al-Khalid, in fact it is Type-96, in the pumped version (direct export is quite successful under MBT-2000). Produced at HIT Corporation, with the purchase of parts of the components (engines, gun, SLA).

        MBT Al-Zarar, a Chinese modernization based on HIT Corporation, for Pakistani Type-59.

        The main ATGM - HJ-8 produced under license.
        The main MANPADS - Anza adapted for Pakistan FN-6, with improved altitude (4 km).

        Air Force:
        The second largest modern - JF-17, already 66 pieces in the ranks. With Chinese radar and engine. Thanks to the success of the Chinese with AFAR, they are already sawing the 3 Block version, with the AFAR radar as in Chinese J-10B.

        The main simulator is K-8 Karakum, a very successful project for Pakistan, and for China too. Fantastic price, in the homeless version a little more than 5 million dollars, and in the ceiling 8. For comparison, the Yak-130 - 12-15. The result of 150 aircraft sold to foreign markets (outside Pakistan and China) and another 60 contracted and in operation. Each K-8 has a piece of Pakistan - fuselage sets are made in Punjab, at PAC Corporation.

        Impact UAVs either based on Chinese experience, or the Chinese Riper - CASC, which is quite actively storming the market.

        Plus, they want to bargain about the J-10B with AFAR and an advanced board, apparently now the Americans are blackmailing this, and flirting with the Chinese.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 4 May 2016 13: 35
          +3
          Not only factories. Throughout Pakistan, China has stood
          modern high-speed railway. And built
          (already) deep sea port on the Persian Gulf.
          Now the Chinese have instant access to the main oil region -
          The Persian Gulf.
        2. avt
          avt 4 May 2016 14: 35
          0
          Quote: donavi49
          Plus, they want to bargain about the J-10B with AFAR and an advanced board, apparently now the Americans are blackmailing this, and flirting with the Chinese.

          They scream on their nerves - not without it, but the USs, if we discard the politician, but really look at the performance characteristics, the real advantage over this "Tandoor" -engine on the Ph-16 will be more important than our replica RD-93 at 8300kgs, the evil say languages ​​of a flying tandoor ... with a normal take-off weight so for 9100kg thrust-to-weight ratio -0,9 request It will not be enough in comparison even with Blocks from the mid 80s.
          1. 52
            52 4 May 2016 17: 09
            0
            For a machine with a priority of 0,9 percussion on the ground, a good indicator. Well, the price, of course ..
        3. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 4 May 2016 14: 40
          0
          Close cooperation between the two countries dates back to the 60-70s.
        4. Yegorchik
          Yegorchik 4 May 2016 15: 59
          0
          Quote: donavi49


          Air Force:
          The second most modern - JF-17, already 66 units in the ranks. With Chinese radar and engine.

          The Russians put RD-17 on the JF-93, while the packs are sending the Chinese with their engine, about which about a week ago there was a statement by some big Pakistani chief, I saw at the Pakistani military forum.
      2. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 4 May 2016 14: 39
        0
        They have long found a common language.
    3. tiredwithall
      tiredwithall 4 May 2016 11: 02
      +3
      Every business has at least two sides. Strategic partner Pakistan, the backbone of Fashington, is capricious and demands veiled payment for its "strategic" status. At the same time, he subtly hints that in the system of the Western commercial civilization one can easily sell and buy all the loud statements about his adherence to principles.
    4. GSH-18
      GSH-18 4 May 2016 11: 07
      0
      Islamabad is likely to turn to another fighter supplier if the US does not provide subsidies for the purchase of the F-16 ... Sartaj Aziz.

      Petty blackmail and extortion. No more.
  2. razmik72
    razmik72 4 May 2016 10: 48
    -1
    Well, and the packs want a freebie, and you wrote here: Armenia, Armenia wink smile
  3. Taygerus
    Taygerus 4 May 2016 10: 50
    +3
    better let their own rivets than Omerian rusty iron to buy, such as Germany put
    1. WUA 518
      WUA 518 4 May 2016 11: 02
      +5
      they can be replaced by JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft from China and Pakistan, ”the agency said.
      I wonder if the engines there are Klimovsky or General Electric?
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 4 May 2016 11: 07
        +1
        Quote: WUA 518
        I wonder if the engines there are Klimovsky or General Electric?

        Powerplant: 1 × TRDDF RD-93 (or a copy of WS-13); It is possible to install GE F404 / RM12 or Turbo Union RB199
      2. avt
        avt 4 May 2016 14: 38
        0
        Quote: WUA 518
        I wonder if the engines there are Klimovsky or General Electric?

        Something like this
        Quote: avt
        They scream on their nerves - not without it, but the USs, if we discard the politician, but really look at the performance characteristics, the real advantage over this "Tandoor" -engine on the Ph-16 will be more important than our replica RD-93 at 8300kgs, the evil say languages ​​of a flying tandoor ... with a normal take-off weight so for 9100kg thrust-to-weight ratio -0,9
    2. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 4 May 2016 11: 06
      0
      Quote: Taygerus
      better let their own rivets than Omerian rusty iron to buy, such as Germany put

      Jf-17 thunder
      Unit cost:
      Block 1: $ 15-20 million
      Block 2: $ 20-25 million
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 4 May 2016 12: 04
        0
        She is not a very successful car, as it turned out. And against Sushki from sworn friends, even the future Block3 looks bad. They rivet at home, with Chinese help, already 66 pieces have been delivered to the Air Force. Now they are developing the Block-3 with AFAR and an advanced board. But there the price will rise again.

        They want alternatively to take J-10B with AFAR. But again, there is no money, and the Chinese do not really want to sell, not to mention, about the transfer of production.
  4. Dam
    Dam 4 May 2016 10: 54
    +3
    Something tells me that P.indos’s money is running out. Wow, they don’t give subsidies to beloved Mujahideen. You look, it’s scary to say, Israel will cease to feed.
    1. tiredwithall
      tiredwithall 4 May 2016 11: 08
      +1
      Quote: Damm
      Something tells me that P.indos’s money is running out. Wow, they don’t give subsidies to beloved Mujahideen. You look, it’s scary to say, Israel will cease to feed.

      Well, well, America will sooner starve than let Israel lose weight.
  5. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 4 May 2016 10: 55
    +3
    Mattress with its awesome debt can no longer support friends?
  6. Leeder
    Leeder 4 May 2016 11: 11
    0
    Quote: Bone
    Buy Our planes!
    Inexpensive, reliable and efficient!
    And most importantly, ultramodern !!!

    India buys airplanes from us, so it is unlikely ...
    1. godofwar6699
      godofwar6699 4 May 2016 11: 21
      0
      India plans to purchase UAV Predator XP
    2. Yegorchik
      Yegorchik 4 May 2016 16: 05
      0
      Quote: LeeDer

      India buys airplanes from us, so it is unlikely ...

      They really want the SU-35 and they don’t care where the Indians buy it, the problem is the packs don’t have money, and Russia will not give them subsidies correctly.
  7. godofwar6699
    godofwar6699 4 May 2016 11: 12
    0
    [quote = Taygerus] F-16 [/ quote]
    [quote = Taygerus] rusty iron
    bully
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 4 May 2016 11: 19
      0
      [quote = godofwar6699] [quote = Taygerus] F-16 [/ quote]
      [quote = Taygerus] rusty iron [/ quote]
      In the photo, like the F-16 Block 60. Now there is a more modern version of the F-16V with a new AFAR (Block 60 also had an AFAR, but an older one).
  8. black
    black 4 May 2016 11: 14
    0
    This is a signal. Vassals no longer want handouts. Vassals want their loyalty to buy.
  9. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 4 May 2016 11: 28
    0
    JF-17 Thunder joint production of China and Pakistan can replace them in the anti-terrorism campaign
    In addition to the radicals, the packs have another strong opponent - India. Wouldn't equipping their Air Force with joint Chinese fighters reduce their combat effectiveness? The Indians have a serious fleet. From one of the leading manufacturers. Comparison of JF-17 Thunder and F- 16 it would be necessary. In general, the transition to almost own production looks preferable to buying net imports.
  10. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 4 May 2016 11: 33
    0
    Freebie, sweet concept! Only the United States will change a freebie for free.
  11. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 4 May 2016 11: 33
    0
    In the most shitty country, the doggie is dead dollar, katstsa. And if you push some countries like Russia, which wished to sell oil for rubles at its own, so far future, exchange? The Merikans realized that the world began to live not according to their rules, although the black monkey was still puffing up to impose its rules of world trade on the same world. Ek throws them over: at first they imposed the WTO, and when it stopped working in their favor, they began to turn their hands to all close lackeys with imposing the conclusion of economic agreements on their own terms in order to make them dependent not only militarily, but also economically. Mastrasovtsy can no longer live without cheating, as their GDP is already equal to their debt. And I suspect that they will board all of their creditors in the near future
  12. godofwar6699
    godofwar6699 4 May 2016 11: 37
    0
    [quote = Lt. Air Force reserve] [quote = godofwar6699] [quote = Taygerus] F-16 [/ quote]
    [quote = Taygerus] rusty iron [/ quote]
    In the photo like F-16 Block 60. Now there is a more modern version of the F-16V with a new AFAR (AFAR was also installed on Block 60, but the older one). [/ Quote]

    F-16 viper

  13. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 May 2016 11: 41
    0
    ... if the US does not provide subsidies for the purchase of F-16

    So Pakistan decided to blackmail the Americans, taking them for a sore spot business = profit.
  14. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 4 May 2016 13: 43
    +3
    F-16 has exhausted itself. Like, however, the entire 4th generation.
    While the Indians are 4th, the Pakistanis will be satisfied with both the F-16 and the Chinese JF-17.
    But as soon as the Indians buy the 5th (from someone, Russians / Americans, it doesn’t matter), forget
    Pakistan, about air supremacy ...
  15. Ros 56
    Ros 56 4 May 2016 16: 48
    0
    Here are the applications, uncle, give me some water to drink, otherwise I want to eat like that, there’s nowhere to spend the night. And other suppliers that, free fighters will customize. Of course it’s understandable, and we are helping someone, but it’s not so brazen to behave.
  16. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 5 May 2016 12: 27
    0
    Unfortunately, the 5th generation club pass is too expensive. Not all countries now possessing 3rd and 4th generations will be able to buy and operate the 5th generation. Therefore, the F-16, MiG-29, Su-27 will still fly and be upgraded. If Pakistan is not able to buy the F-16, then what is the conversation about the 5th generation? For conflicts with neighbors, it will be enough, but for a dispute with "big" boys in 10-15 years is no longer. The Chinese aviation industry is based on the groundwork for the third generation of the MIG and received a second wind after the purchase and development of a license from Sukhoi in the difficult 3s. touched it too in 90-10 years will end.
  17. Aristide
    Aristide 5 May 2016 16: 20
    0
    Friendship is friendship, but the tobacco is apart! Why did Pakistan count on such huge subsidies from the US? American guys love and know how to count money. So what was the Pakistani calculation based on?