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And you, Svyatyk, could lie with a grenade under the tank?

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And you, Svyatyk, could lie with a grenade under the tank?



I have a friend in our yard. His name is Svyatyk. And completely - Svyatoslav. Parents, not from their distant minds, supply the fifth-grader-son with various pistols that shoot bullets. The boy happily chases the girls around the yard and shoots wherever he gets from his weapons. Today I saw in him a real dummy of a Finnish knife, even from afar confused with the present. I try to disarm the sanctuary in the literal and figurative sense of the word, but the boy sometimes appears with his horror stories.

Then one day I asked him a question: “And could you, Svyatyk, lie down with a grenade under a tank or make this grenade, as your peers did during the war?”. This question was so unexpected for him that he thought. I thought too. And I remembered that I have good friends who put the true path of many such abandoned children and teenagers who are unfortunately motivated by parents who have no idea about the real upbringing of a fighter.

Despite a decent age, sometimes poor health, household chores, each of them generously gives his time, his experience, the heat of his heart to young people, seeing in it the future of Russia.

I again return to my topic about the Rostov club “Patriot”, which has been operating since the end of the 90-s of the last century, and in the new century does not suspend for a moment its work, attracting new allies to its ranks, who are helping to bear the difficult burden of spiritual enlightenment.

A very important condition for the successful work of the club and the fact that it was possible to achieve good results in the patriotic education of young people, in the inner work of the club, is that each member of the club takes his veteran work in the club seriously and responsibly, understanding its importance and relevance in the presently complex, often, spiritless, time.

The poets Pavel Ivanovich Ryumin, Vladimir Alekseevich Petrov and Sergei Ivanovich Kurnosov prepared and released new collections of poems dedicated to this significant date for the celebration of Victory Day.

And in the days of the celebration it is planned to hold numerous meetings with the soldiers of the Rostov garrison.

We can not say that all the activities of the club is carried out on a voluntary basis. Funds received from philanthropists and membership fees go to the publication of books, posters, the purchase of postcards, forms, certificates of honor and letters of thanks.
The “secret” of success in the work of the “Patriot” club on youth education is that teammates carefully prepare for each meeting with schoolchildren, students, young warriors, think over and coordinate with teachers the topics of their performances, trying to keep them relevant, interesting and long-lasting. remained in the memory of listeners. Visual aids also help here: posters, photographs, books, clippings from front-line newspapers.

Members of the organizational and methodical commission of the club prepare in advance methodological developments, reference and information materials, means of visual agitation for performances in front of young people, as well as help equip and replenish school museums and corners of military and labor glory.

In addition, many members of the club - people of great life experience, were participants in many glorious deeds, they have something to tell the younger generation, to tell young people the right way in life.

I will tell only about the three women who did not sit on the bench and discuss what kind of worthless these girls and boys are, that they yell and bully in the yard, but went to schools and lyceums to talk there about themselves and that past life, from which only one thing can be learned - the ability and desire to live and work, despite all obstacles.

Elena V. Inozemtseva was born in 1939 in the Donbas in the family of a mining engineer. During the Great Patriotic War, she lived with her grandmother, a girl worked on a collective farm, in a mine, and looked after the wounded in a military hospital.

After the war in Rostov, she worked at a shoe factory named after Mikoyan. Since 1994, Elena Vasilyevna began to work in the club "Patriot". Together with her husband, a war veteran, a veteran of the helicopter plant, a talented bard who sang author songs and romances Vladimir Petrovich Ivanov, unfortunately, recently passed away, appeared before schoolchildren, students, young warriors. They sang their original songs together. They managed to record several cassettes together, which later began to be performed by other amateur groups, the songs were played on the regional radio. Thanks to the help of the helicopter plant, the book "String" was recently published with poems and songs by Vladimir Ivanov.

And Elena Ivanovna continues to be actively engaged in the patriotic and cultural education of young people, moreover, completely disinterestedly, speaking with poetry of her husband-front-line soldier.

Anna Nikolaevna Pilipko was born in 1923, in the village of Ilinka, Kuschevsky District, Krasnodar Territory. After graduating from school in the first months of the war in the summer and autumn of 1941, they were all gathered together and sent rather far from their home to build defensive lines under the cities of Bataysk and Taganrog. How many she dug anti-tank ditches, how many bitter, especially heavy in 1941 year of the earth, it is impossible to calculate, and it does not matter now. After all, then they were ready to go to the front, but they were not taken because of their minority. Anna helped in the evacuation of our soldiers and officers wounded in battles to the hospital, and at the beginning of 1943, the military registration and enlistment office voluntarily sent the active army to the 27-nd separate bridge railway battalion with a communications assistant. Near Novocherkassk was wounded.

The battalion, in which Anna Pilipenko served, passed through front-line roads, building and rebuilding bridges, tunnels, and railways in the Caucasus, Kuban, Romania, Hungary, Poland, and Germany. Victory Day came for Anna in Berlin. But the war for her in May, 1945, did not end. The battalion was transferred to Manchuria on the Far Eastern Front. Only at the end of 1945, the young signalman returned home to her native Ilyinka. In the 1948 year, arriving in Rostov, she went to work at Selmash, graduated from the evening secondary school, Institute of National Economy, worked in the plant management, in the electrical department, retired from the position of senior engineer in 1979 year, having worked on Rostselmash more than 30 years. After retiring, Anna Nikolaevna immediately joined the active veteran work, engaged in the patriotic and moral education of young people, was elected chairman of the primary veteran organization in Voroshilovsky district of Rostov-on-Don.

Bogatova Larisa Nikolaevna was born in 1926, in the city of Taganrog. She studied at the school in the city of Kamensk. At the beginning of the war, she participated in the preparation of defensive works, in the packaging of incendiary bottles, in harvesting, collecting spikelets. Then my parents were evacuated to the city of Andijan, Uzbek SSR.



A native Rostov at that time was occupied by the Germans.



Occupants loved to go to the local bazaar.



After the liberation of Rostov, she graduated from a statistical technical school, a financial and economic institute, and remained to work here as a senior laboratory assistant at the department of political economy, and taught accounting disciplines. In 1964, she moved to Moscow, where she graduated from the graduate school at the Agricultural Academy estate K.A. Timiryazeva, worked in several Moscow institutes, but the call of the homeland turned out to be stronger and she decided to return to the Don, to Rostov, who was again supportive of Larisa’s fate: she worked in the Food Industry Directorate of the Regional Executive Committee, developed several scientific and methodological recommendations, and was repeatedly encouraged to scientific activities.

After retiring in 1981, Larisa Nikolaevna worked on a voluntary basis in the museum of the Palace of Culture of Railwaymen, in the regional council of war and labor veterans, and was nominated as a deputy to the Rostov Regional Council of People's Deputies.

Boyko Nina Andreevna was born in Rostov-on-Don in a family of doctors. She graduated from high school. During World War II, the evacuation girl worked at defensive factories in Tomsk and in Moscow. Veteran military rear. She was awarded the Lenin Jubilee Medal, as well as the medals "For Valiant Labor in the Great Patriotic War 1941-1945.", "Veteran of Labor", "50 Years of Victory", "60 Years of Victory." Junior Lieutenant Medical Service.



After the liberation of her native city from the fascist invaders, she returned home. She graduated from the dental school and spent almost 40 years working in the health care field in the Oktyabrskaya rural region and in Rostov in the polyclinic of the Internal Affairs Directorate of the Regional Executive Committee. She was repeatedly rewarded for good work, was elected and for a long time worked as the chairperson of the district committee of the trade union of medical workers.

It is impossible not to say a kind word about Vasily Danilovich Babeshko, a member of the methodical commission of the club, retired colonel Vasily Danilovich Babeshko, who is not only often in schools, actively engaged in military-patriotic education of young people, but also continues to work as a senior researcher at the Aksai military history museum, conducts tours , acquaints visitors with weapons and military equipment, prepares future defenders of the Fatherland for the army service. Many members of the Patriot club took part in these excursions.



The school audience is well aware of the courage lessons of the front-line soldier, former artillery reconnaissance officer, senior retired lieutenant, member of the Writers' Union Don Ivan Kurnosov.

At meetings with young people, he not only talks about the heroic exploits of Soviet soldiers, how difficult the Victory was, but also reads his military and lyrical poems to young people. Many of his books gave the poet to school libraries.
Schoolchildren and teachers of the city also respond positively to the lessons of courage taught by the Patriot club members in educational institutions: these are retired major Boris Petrovich Sobkalov, retired captain Mark Kuprits, senior medical service lieutenant Evgenia Stepanovna Tyukina, former partisan Alexander Grigoryevich Malyuk , retired colonel Vladimir Alekseevich Petrov, former Baltic young fleet Vasily Stefanovich Tkachev and many others.

Good work is different veteran of the war, the captain in retirement, deputy chairman of the club Klavdiya Ivanovna Kuznetsova. She spends lessons of courage with students very informative and interesting, tells the children about how the sons of the regiments, young partisans and underground fighters, how selflessly worked adolescents at defense factories, about the exploits of Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, Alexander fought along with adults in the years of the Great Patriotic War. Matrosov.

Klavdiya Ivanovna pays a lot of attention to club work, preparing and holding meetings of the club's board and general meetings, leads the social section, with her assets and personally visits veterans at home and in hospitals, as a representative of the Patriot club. , participates in the work of the public school commission.

A member of the club took part in the acquisition of exhibits and the restoration of the museum "Young Guard" in school number XXUMX. The natives of the Rostov region were 32 members of the “Young Guard”. This museum, with its unique exhibits, was created in 12 on the initiative of the teaching community and the parents of the dead Young Guards and a few of the survivors.

The grand opening of the museum took place after the repair, and the school principal invited all the members of the Patriot club to a tour. Alexander Pavlovich Stasyuk, the son of Nadezhda Ivanovna Stasyuk, a member of the resistance organization Young Guard, took patronage over the museum from the club.

After a major overhaul of the old premises at school number XXUMX, the Museum of the Second Guards Tatsinsky tank corps was again set up, to which veterans are directly involved.



And on the eve of the Victory Day celebrations over Nazi Germany, on the initiative of members of the Patriot club Nikolai Mikhailovich Kondrashov and Vasily Danilovich Babeshko for two days - 28 and 29 April - an interregional meeting of the Patriot club members with students, teachers and veterans who were formerly held students and teachers of schools №6 and №27 Novoalekseevskogo rural district of the Krasnodar Territory.
This meeting of veterans and youth of Don and Kuban was solemn. In advance, a plan was drawn up for holding meetings at schools, solemn rulers and rallies, concert programs of the Podvory Choir and amateur performances of Kuban schoolchildren.



The most important thing that the envoys of the capital of Don wanted was to meet with young people, talk about front-line soldiers who brought us the Victory, help activate the military-patriotic and moral education of schoolchildren, and strengthen the friendship of Don and Kuban veterans. And I must say: everything planned was fulfilled.

So year after year passes time. And in it the veterans feel not lost, but quite a combat unit, the main task of which they imagine is clear and clear - to be in the ranks of good people and attract other people, small and large, into their ranks. Whether my friend Svyatik will be in this line - time will tell. And I would like, despite the fact that his mother is from Ukraine and occasionally leaves there, for some unknown reason, perverting herself to be angry and ridiculed: bad rumors circulate about her. And the son Svyatyk grows on Russian soil and goes to the Russian school.
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  1. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 5 May 2016 06: 16
    +8
    Thank you Polina! The desired topic and current !!!!
    1. Dembel77
      Dembel77 5 May 2016 09: 58
      +9
      A low bow to all those who fell for the Victory and to all those who are now not letting us forget at what price it went to our country. With the upcoming holiday of the Great Victory of the Soviet people over the Nazi invaders, you are friends! And I especially congratulate the author of the article, Polina Efimova, on the Victory Day - I wish you many years!
      1. Zfoni
        Zfoni 6 May 2016 14: 59
        0
        And what kind of bad rumors go about Svyatik's mom?
    2. OlegLex
      OlegLex 5 May 2016 20: 31
      0
      Judging by the fifteen minuses, not everyone thinks so. If only one argued its minus.
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 5 May 2016 06: 34
    +3
    They’ll leave ... they’re the last ... And we are grandchildren, that we will tell the new generation ... Thank you, Polina ..
    1. Homo
      Homo 5 May 2016 07: 46
      +6
      Quote: parusnik
      .And we are grandchildren, that we will tell the new generation ...

      Same. About the Great Patriotic War, about Afghanistan, about Chechnya, about Syria. On the heroism and self-sacrifice of young children in the 80s, 90s, 2000s!
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 5 May 2016 11: 31
        +2
        Yes, probably ... but I'm afraid of one question .. they will ask .. But how did it happen that such a country was profiled ..
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        3. Oprychnik
          Oprychnik 5 May 2016 18: 51
          +3
          You should think whatever you like about the work of Fyodor Bondarchuk, but in this passage from the "9th company" the reaction of the ensign is indicative.
        4. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 5 May 2016 20: 13
          +9
          Quote: parusnik
          Yes, probably ... but I'm afraid of one question .. they will ask .. And how did it happen that such a country was profiled ..

          My grandson, 14 years old, knows perfectly well who traitors are, who are the enemies of the motherland and what to do with them. And I’m not afraid of such a question - I’ll give the names.

          I didn’t make a proficiency in the country, I went on business trips where the country sent me. And once, having arrived from a business trip, I discovered that while I was picking sand from my ears at the edge of geography, democracy won over here, which neither I nor my business trips needed ... And there were thousands like me ...

          So I will find that my grandson will answer such a question.
          1. gladcu2
            gladcu2 6 May 2016 18: 31
            +1
            Zoldat_A

            Everyone was dangling.

            So what is the conclusion? Can you explain what happened?

            It would be necessary, otherwise it will be again.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 7 May 2016 06: 38
              +2
              Quote: gladcu2
              Can you explain what happened?

              It would be necessary, otherwise it will be again.
              Here, in fact, is the whole explanation of what happened to our country in the 91st ...
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              My grandson, 14 years old, knows perfectly well who traitors are, who are the enemies of the motherland and what to do with them. And I’m not afraid of such a question - I’ll give the names.
  3. qwert
    qwert 5 May 2016 06: 45
    +1
    As always, an excellent and correct article from Polina. Which some fascists minus. But the fascist minus is a real plus. They do not like it when we recall the great times and the great feat of the Soviet people, and their heroic representatives, which during the years of the war were the majority of our ordinary people.
    1. Darkness
      Darkness 5 May 2016 06: 53
      +5
      In Russia, top-level desovetization is underway and Victory is being shut down (replacing real characters with fake ones, releasing wildly false films about the Second World War, etc.).
      It is not surprising that fascists are also here.
      1. Homo
        Homo 5 May 2016 07: 41
        +5
        Quote: Darkness
        In Russia, there is a desovetization at the highest level and the looting of the Victory ...

        Are you talking about Russia? Not confused with neighboring countries?
        1. Darkness
          Darkness 5 May 2016 08: 11
          +7
          It is about Russia. They removed the Red Victory Banner, instead of it - the Guards ribbon, as the main symbol of Victory.
          Removed the Red Star. Drape the Mausoleum.
          Over the past decades - not a single sane film about the Second World War. Continue?
      2. evge-malyshev
        evge-malyshev 5 May 2016 09: 17
        +2
        Quote: Darkness
        It is not surprising that fascists are also here.

        I don’t understand why you call them so affectionately. Fascists ... They are fascists
      3. evge-malyshev
        evge-malyshev 5 May 2016 09: 17
        +1
        Quote: Darkness
        It is not surprising that fascists are also here.

        I don’t understand why you call them so affectionately. Fascists ... They are fascists
    2. CONTROL
      CONTROL 5 May 2016 08: 13
      +3
      Quote: qwert
      As always, an excellent and correct article from Polina. Which some fascists minus. But the fascist minus is a real plus.

      And the resource is popular! And its popularity is growing!
      It used to be stable one minusand now four, or even five!
      Fell in love ... masochists! And - they carefully monitor, not a single article, not a single material is missed! Dossier, or what, "sew"? ...
  4. Homo
    Homo 5 May 2016 07: 40
    +14
    The article is correct, but the very beginning did not work out very well.
    "Parents who are not distant in their minds supply their fifth-grader son with various pistols that shoot bullets."
    "I try to disarm the sanctuary in the literal and figurative sense of the word, but the boy sometimes appears with his horror stories."
    And what toys, according to the author, should a fifth grader have? For a future man, defender of the family and the Fatherland? I have seen 18-20 year old youths who have no idea which side to hold their weapons from, whose guns shoot with "bullets", cartridges in a submachine gun should be enough for half an hour of shooting, there should be a dry closet in the trench, etc. Probably they did not have toy pistols in childhood, they were brought up tolerantly, kept the commandment "Thou shalt not kill", and when they met "gopniks" they threw friends and girls. And in the end they tried to "roll away" from the army. And the author is about throwing under a tank with a grenade!
    PS I put the article +.
    1. Darkness
      Darkness 5 May 2016 08: 12
      +6
      We rifled with self-arrows in childhood)))
      1. alvog
        alvog 5 May 2016 09: 13
        +13
        Quote: Darkness
        We rifled with self-arrows in childhood)))

        In my childhood, right after the war, we were all fond of homemade pistols, the so-called "arson". You go to a vacant lot, pour sulfur into the barrel, or whatever it is called by the matches, score a wad, then a bullet, then a wad again, and shoot at a target. It gives the impression that you are on a real shooting range. Although the adults chased us for it, up to the police.
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      3. siberalt
        siberalt 5 May 2016 09: 49
        +16
        In my childhood, we did not only set fire, scarecrows, crossbows, explosive packs, smoke bombs, rockets on film or combs, exploding bolts and other pyrotechnics and cast gilts and brass knuckles (without this in any way). But also scooters with bearings, clubs, pipes and whistles, dog kennels, stools and birdhouses, operating ship and aircraft models, soldered transistor receivers, polished lenses for makeshift telescopes and made electric guitars with makeshift adapters. Before closing, they stayed in libraries. Maybe all because then there was no Internet? winked Or, was there another state and there was someone to take an example from?
        1. sherp2015
          sherp2015 5 May 2016 10: 25
          +4
          Quote: siberalt
          In my childhood, we did not only set fire, scarecrows, crossbows, explosive packs, smoke bombs, rockets on film or combs, exploding bolts and other pyrotechnics and cast gilts and brass knuckles (without this in any way). But also scooters with bearings, clubs, pipes and whistles, dog kennels, stools and birdhouses, operating ship and aircraft models, soldered transistor receivers, polished lenses for makeshift telescopes and made electric guitars with makeshift adapters. Before closing, they stayed in libraries. Maybe all because then there was no Internet?


          )) Everything was so! Happy childhood: Pioneer camps, the sea, motels, piles of free clubs, sports.
          There were normal unions
          What country have we lost ...
          1. Zfoni
            Zfoni 5 May 2016 15: 32
            0
            A hunchbacked bastard which country he destroyed ...
          2. tolyasik0577
            tolyasik0577 5 May 2016 17: 51
            +4
            Happy childhood: Pioneer camps, the sea, motels, piles of free clubs, sports.
            And don’t say, but now, I, a healthy man, have to climb a fir tree behind a stuck helicopter. I got it, I freaked out and said, “Son, I’ve covered all the trees in the district in all your years, all the gardens, all the parks.” And you can’t climb the tree. In general ... I put the horizontal bar in the yard and force me to pull myself up.
        2. EvgNik
          EvgNik 5 May 2016 11: 57
          +1
          Quote: siberalt
          In my childhood, we did not only

          All the same with small additions.
    2. CONTROL
      CONTROL 5 May 2016 09: 40
      +1
      Quote: Homo
      The article is correct, but the very beginning did not work out very well.
      "Parents who are not distant in their minds supply their fifth-grader son with various pistols that shoot bullets."
      "I try to disarm the sanctuary in the literal and figurative sense of the word, but the boy sometimes appears with his horror stories."
      And what toys, according to the author, should a fifth grader have? The future man, a defender of the family and the Fatherland?

      The handling of weapons - even with their dummies ("toys") - must be trained in a qualified, experienced, knowledgeable and wise people! Today, he thoughtlessly shoots plastic bullets from the "mock-up" at the girls in the yard, inserts a plastic-rubber dummy of a Finn into the liver of a boy - a neighbor on the porch ... Without thoughts and understanding that the weapon should be turned and used against the enemy! ... Ah - so easy to play!
      Get to it tomorrow military weapons - ....
      Military toys are good along with military-patriotic education! And where is it - among such Svyatiks? ... destroyed? ...
      1. andrew42
        andrew42 5 May 2016 14: 28
        +4
        Unfortunately, no external military-patriotic upbringing will replace even half of the parents' daily attitude on the issue of love for their homeland. The first is only a sufficient condition for the upbringing of patriotism, and the second (parental, grandfather's) is necessary. It can only be replaced by bitter life experience, when the enemy's boot steps on the throat, and the invader dips his muzzle into the mud, then rethinking is also possible. If a daddy cuts a gelding on the last model and saw everything in the coffin except the dough, then the sonny will be the same, even worse. And "dummies" of weapons in the hands of children are completely irrelevant here. For us Russians, military education is at the heart of the formation of a male personality. Ethnopsychology, you know. You can't drink archetypes. At one time, in my youth, in the classroom on national "hand-to-hand" this was explained to me quite intelligibly, - it fell into place, as they say, into its form. Any man should be a warrior. And it is necessary to teach military art and spirit in a small way from the age of seven (it is not too late for someone at 16, but not for everyone). This does not mean that the task is to educate a "fighter", a bull terrier. Raising a warrior capable of protecting loved ones and capable of sacrificing himself for them is the task. And children's amusements here should not be covered with ooh-oohs. I am 100% sure that if Svyatyk, or anyone else, would have been caught by the scruff of an adult man (or better, a father), and gloomily explained that it would be wrong to poke girls with a plastic fin, it would work at once. And so, the aunts take away toys - what kind of business - such a reaction is predictable. The problem is the lack of male education after the Great Patriotic War, including because of this, and the Union collapsed.
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 5 May 2016 22: 36
        +3
        Quote: CONTROL
        Today he thoughtlessly shoots plastic bullets from the "mock-up" at the girls in the yard, inserts a plastic-rubber dummy of a Finn into the liver of a boy - a neighbor on the porch ... Without thinking and understanding that weapons should be turned and used against the enemy! ... And - it's so easy to play!
        Get to it tomorrow military weapons - ....

        I wrote practically the same thing in many letters a little higher and, apparently, the same "onizhedeti" also silently minus me. Damn it with a minus, but I do not understand the reason for disagreeing with your and my opinion.

        All that instantly - I fix someone else's incomprehensible minus, at least by zero ... hi
    3. mihasik
      mihasik 5 May 2016 11: 25
      +6
      Quote: Homo
      And what toys, according to the author, should a fifth grader have? The future man, a defender of the family and the Fatherland?

      Correctly, the author put emphasis on weapons at the fifth grader.
      Remember your childhood and how you played war games. Remembered?
      The game was collective and there were at least two sides with "weapons", one for the Reds, others for example for the Whites. In other cases, the weapon was used only for training to shoot and then in a deserted place. And this jerk runs and shoots defenseless targets in the yard, which they did not even know that they are the subject of a game of war. Well, just like in American shooters. And no one has ever even aimed at girls - they are a priori always nurses or doctors, and for this you cannot shoot. Ban! So feel the difference between a warrior and a future action movie. She is in the upbringing of certain "no" and why "no".
      1. andrew42
        andrew42 5 May 2016 15: 40
        0
        In my time, fifth graders ALREADY did not play "war games" (specifically in 1983, fifth graders). This was the lot of third-graders and slightly delayed 5-graders. In the 4th grade, there was a painful search for other occupations. But basically everything revolved around "physical training". This is, of course, outside the scope of pure learning. Someone tightly went to sports sections, technical circles, someone to music clubs (it was still too early for dancing, this is in grade 5-7, and even then not for everyone), some "outstanding" personalities rattled pears in the yards, unsuccessfully mowing "under the punches", and on occasion shoveling from the first who went to the sports section. But they didn't play "war" anymore. That's for sure. Crossbows, scarecrows, bows, spears, shields, they did. But this is already a craft experiment, not running around with a pistol.
    4. goblin xnumx
      goblin xnumx 5 May 2016 15: 38
      0
      well, the author’s truth is that everyone almost shot both peas and slingshots and bent stitches (y-shaped) - but no one bought it and for that they could give it to their neck if they catch in their hands (adults) because without brains you can the eyes can be taken out by a comrade, and only stupid parents can author buy stupid bullets - the author of the law - the next step is his own pneumatic or Turkish one and the bulbs up to 1 gram - but where does he shoot them? - but to ask a question, I could make a child a grenade did not ...
    5. efimovaPE
      5 May 2016 17: 26
      +1
      This shrine shoots bullets at us.
  5. Vladycat
    Vladycat 5 May 2016 07: 49
    +2
    The boy’s weapon in itself is not bad, but the culture of handling it must be instilled, which is not easy.
    1. lukke
      lukke 5 May 2016 10: 17
      +12
      but the culture of handling him needs to be inculcated, which is not easy
      You gentlemen have not confused anything? I, too, as a kid ran around with the same guys with toys (weapons), and for the most part with home-made models in the yards and the whole "culture" consisted of a watched film or read Gaidar's story, etc. A father at work, a mother at work, and so on for almost everyone. This is then, first, a school sports section for bullet shooting, etc. And if you ask me a question about a grenade and a tank, you would have answered "of course" in the same way, or would have immediately depicted this action next to an imaginary tank and of course would have defeated it and stayed alive!) That is why it is childhood and childhood fantasies, and you already urge everyone to complete compulsory courses in practical shooting ...
      1. mihasik
        mihasik 5 May 2016 12: 21
        +4
        Quote: lukke
        You are already urging everyone to end compulsory practical shooting courses ...

        I repeat.
        In our childhood in such games there were immutable rules of the game, even for the most brainless (kick, slap in the face, expulsion from the game). So to say gentleman's rules, by default, all concerned. Who violated, punished. Now there are no rules and no one is punishing, but on the contrary, they begin to defend and regret the unintentional child. And then inadequate flayer grow out of these.
  6. Sofia
    Sofia 5 May 2016 07: 50
    +1
    The article is good, Polina! Needed and on time! And about pistols and bullets ... I think if you bought such a pistol, then you need to control the actions of your son and first of all, to teach his mind, not to shoot anywhere.
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 5 May 2016 09: 36
      +3
      Quote: Sophia
      if you bought such a pistol, then you need to control the actions of your son and first, all the same, teach him the mind to not shoot anywhere

      Right, Sophia. We also ran around with guns (home-made, at first we were made older by the guys, then ourselves), and always the first thing was the proper handling of weapons. Never aim at a person (I’m not even talking about girls), shoot only at targets and so on. It is driven hard into me. He also taught his children, and now grandchildren. And the fascists - minuscule - are eliminated gradually. There is no nutrient medium on the site. They do not agitate anyone, they bring a temporary confusion, so they only set up against themselves more.
      1. CONTROL
        CONTROL 5 May 2016 14: 10
        +1
        Quote: EvgNik
        And the fascists - minuscule - are eliminated gradually. There is no nutrient medium on the site. They do not agitate anyone, they bring a temporary confusion, so they only set up against themselves more.

        And they don't come here for a "nutrient medium"! and not over Thursday and Friday ... The main thing is to amuse yourself, minus! At least I will show my tongue, from behind bars - but I will be glad ...
  7. Old26
    Old26 5 May 2016 08: 05
    +6
    Article plus. The topic is necessary, but the first paragraph, unfortunately, "neither to the village, nor to the city." So what if the boy has pistols? Didn't we grow up the same way? We didn't have them? We also had it. And the machines themselves were cut out of the boards.
    And this in the end did not stop my generation from going through Afghanistan, the liquidation of the Chernobyl accident, and the first Chechnya
  8. Riv
    Riv 5 May 2016 08: 48
    +15
    In fact, having a grenade for a tank is stupid. The bottom of a modern car is too tough for the "lemon". Even the RPG-40 is probably too tough. Shakes inside, of course, beat off asses, but survive. And the newer RGK needs to be thrown, and not pounded on the armor with it, it is cumulative. And in general "teisintai" is not our way. The tank must be stopped so that he himself remains alive.

    Therefore, do not teach children that war is won by a gesture of despair. This is not true. Instead of sentimental articles, it would be better for senior students to organize normal summer camps at the military unit. Every summer we were stably transported to such. We lived in a pioneer camp, sergeants from the local BB regiment, personally commanded the training camp as a military commissar. Shooting, sports, grenades (yeah!), Football and a minimum of feeding. Take out schoolchildren a couple of times for firing at the same part. Check with the draft board, the unit commander will not refuse. Hold military weapons in your hands for a guy - you can’t describe these feelings in words. Take a ride on an armored personnel carrier (organize driver courses for students for schoolchildren - the queue will be standing!), Go into the soldiers’ canteen.

    Then the stories of that war will not seem like a fairy tale.
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 5 May 2016 09: 44
      +3
      Quote: Riv
      In fact, with a grenade under the tank - this is nonsense.

      This is nonsense for you as an adult and rational. For a child, this is a symbol. And if Svyatik began to think, then there will be some kind of turning point in his life. And if he continues to shoot at girls, then he will grow out of him moral. ready to kill a man.
      Thank you Pauline, the topic has been raised that is needed nowadays.
      1. Riv
        Riv 5 May 2016 13: 05
        +4
        A warrior cannot be trained by deception. The fact is that the word "Motherland" is too vague and in itself is not suitable as a symbol. I know what my grandfathers fought for. My father's grandfather was an artilleryman. On the mother's side - a tanker. I know why and why our regiment was taken to Azerbaijan in the early 90s.
        And what will Priestyk fight for? For nanotechnology Chubaisik?
      2. andrew42
        andrew42 5 May 2016 14: 53
        +3
        Yes, normal grows, what to lament in advance? He will get a couple of times in the eye, understand what pain / fear / humiliation is, and everything will fall into place. She will protect her loved ones so that IM does not hurt. Only business.
  9. itr
    itr 5 May 2016 09: 25
    +10
    I had a folding knife from class 1! Dear author of 80% of the heroes posthumously under 21 years old !!!!!!! Because they were not afraid of death
    So Svyatik will do his job! He is a normal guy and not a morally abandoned guy! Read about "The son of the Chechen people who fought in Stalingrad, how much he killed, how old he is, and how he lived before the war!"
    Dear author, tolerant parenting of male children leads to homosexuality!
    Right now we'll see the lope with us as a man and the lope of tolerant men we vote comrades !!!! vote))))))
    I quit reading the article. I didn’t like it very much.
    Damn in the continuation of his comment. What to talk with 5 fifth graders ????????? would give a slap to the end of the case !!!!!!
    1. itr
      itr 5 May 2016 14: 12
      +6
      Well, what can I say I read the article to the author I can say that new disappointments await her as the light will most likely make a grenade)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
      1. Pomeranian
        Pomeranian 5 May 2016 15: 17
        +1
        Quote: itr
        Svetik is likely to make a grenade

        No, it won’t, magnesium can be found arbitrarily, but potassium permanganate was prohibited in the pharmacy. soldier
        1. tolyasik0577
          tolyasik0577 5 May 2016 18: 01
          +1
          but potassium permanganate was prohibited in the pharmacy

          Well, I don’t know, I recently bought at Chertanovskaya. The wife adds water to the water
    2. efimovaPE
      5 May 2016 17: 28
      0
      This Svyatyk IN US shoots bullets !!!!!!
  10. cdznjckfd
    cdznjckfd 5 May 2016 10: 50
    +2
    An article about a good and necessary business, but there is a big minus for the name and preamble, I think they will understand me if they type a nickname in the Russian layout ;-))))
  11. Kvazar
    Kvazar 5 May 2016 11: 32
    +9
    EPT survived. Such toys shoot a ball. They have nothing to kill. Even if it gets into the eye, he will not be knocked out. What else can children play with? At this age, we had such an arsenal of such toys (mid-90s). And playing war games the only rule was not to shoot in the head. All are alive and well. Maximum damage point-blank in the joints of the fingers to charge (it hurts however) and a bruise 2mm then a couple of days on the skin.

    And to take away and any other crap nonsense. Plus, these pistils are weak (spring is weak). We didn’t really like them. range is zero (5-7 meters in total). Mostly ran with guns and machine guns. There the springs were such that it was not always enough to recharge forces +) These were beaten by 10-15 meters.

    I did not even read the article. Gomosyatnina pulled.
    PS Buy a kid a doll let him play with your daughters +))) Then do not complain after 10 years that there are no men left)
  12. Recoil
    Recoil 5 May 2016 11: 38
    +9
    A story about veterans is good.
    But the call with Svyatik is inappropriate, completely unnecessary.
  13. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 5 May 2016 14: 18
    +2
    "... that his mother is from Ukraine and periodically leaves there, it is not known for what business, perverting angry and disgruntled: bad rumors are circulating about her" ///

    This is what the boy with the toy pistol turned out to be guilty of with Polina: his mother is "wrong."
    From Ukraine...
  14. andrew42
    andrew42 5 May 2016 14: 49
    +4
    I will not put a minus. I have already spoken in my commentary above. And the article is 50% smearing snot and babskie oohs. Of course, shooting at girls is not good. But it is hard to explain why? That children are not born in cabbage? The sanctuary has enough banal fatherly bream. And the whole problem was solved at once and forever. And fuss, and even fights between guys from 8 years old, is an ineradicable thing. Moreover, shooting games. So it was, so it is, and so it will be. The task is to somehow "control" it, so that "softer" will pass. And such a "Ay-ay-ay" any 5-grader will only piss off, and cause rejection. The truth is simple: do you want to shoot girls with bullets? - be ready to get it in the forehead from a high school student. Everyone went through this. Do not do to others what you yourself cannot bear. In life, it often happens that strength brings up. Of course, it would be nice to have kindness behind it. But the weak are not respected under any spells. In kindergartens, in schools, there is a shortage of male teachers and educators. This is the root of the problem. But the current government doesn't care. Even the Soviet government gave up on this in full. A peasant has to be paid with dignity, but in our country the teaching profession was paid and is paid worse and worse. The main profession of all times and peoples! (yes, I myself am not a teacher, I am a techie and an economist). But for me the Teacher is the highest caste, which in an abnormal "society" (the quotes are not accidental) is practically thrown to the very bottom.
  15. Pomeranian
    Pomeranian 5 May 2016 15: 15
    +1
    A strange start. The boy, of course, is a hundredfold wrong, shooting at people with a pistol, but how can an 11-year-old boy play with dolls or reincarnate as a fool from the "potap-looks and speaks" advertisement? the rest of the material is good enough, but the first impression is always the brightest, so the article is not rated.
  16. Kenneth
    Kenneth 5 May 2016 20: 16
    +3
    Pauline does not understand. Or we are for militarized patriotism or against children's pistols. True, it is advisable to add adequate propaganda to the pistols.
  17. Mwg
    Mwg 6 May 2016 05: 02
    +3
    Polina, of course, wrote a good article. But her methods of educational work with Svyatik are scary. The kid under the tank to send, even hypothetically, an ambiguous method of raising other people's children.
  18. Torins
    Torins 6 May 2016 15: 12
    +2
    Quote: MVG
    Polina, of course, wrote a good article. But her methods of educational work with Svyatik are scary. The kid under the tank to send, even hypothetically, an ambiguous method of raising other people's children.

    I’ll say more, to raise from a son a warrior is the duty and competence of the father and not the mother. Why? I think the answer is obvious and no need to explain.
  19. dv_generalov
    dv_generalov 6 May 2016 18: 26
    0
    It's time to end the talk about tolerance. Just defend the interests of the country. The guide will choose to follow these rules. Then the fish will not rot, from where the proverb says. Honestly, I myself know one thing, while we look at someone we will be torn to pieces, which, in principle, happened before the early 2000s, now the questions are again facing the same edge, but from a different angle. Clearly articulate the national idea of ​​organizing the country, its idiological basis and diversity with a clear formulation of the country's existence and its interests. And start teaching all this in schools: anthem, flag, national interests and security of the country. Then our children will grow up not for "sneakers and Pepsi", but with other interests and views. We are a multinational country with a rich culture and history, this is the root of the state's development and the starting point. And what they think "over the hill", they did not particularly turn at us by releasing a strategy of national security, where our state is indicated as a target for aggression. It is worth thinking about ...
  20. Orionvit
    Orionvit 7 May 2016 11: 48
    +1
    One went out against a column of Georgian military. Those did not communicate and turned around. True, he was covered by a minimum of his platoon, but you must agree, to go out alone against a whole column, this is serious. This proves once again which warriors from Georgians. In general, the feeling of self-preservation in the war is somewhat dulled. This is not for you to reason in peacetime.
  21. Free wind
    Free wind 7 May 2016 14: 54
    +1
    The fattening minus of the author is only for these words: she also travels to Ukraine, and comes angry and jerky, and rumors about her are bad ..... I go to the cemetery to my dead wife, I always return angry like a dog, I hate the whole world . Well, such a being. Avtorsha, write to the police about her that she goes to her parents to dill, and maybe she also forgive me ... Lord .. and surrenders to Obama there .... Well, what about the tank rushing with a grenade ??????? ? WHAT FOR??? It seems to me that just throwing a grenade, destroying a tank and continuing the fight is much more important for the MOTHERLAND than suicide. Well, by the way, we had anti-tank grenades, and there was nowhere to go, and our RPG-40 as well. these are high-explosive grenades capable of piercing a maximum of 20 mm of iron .. High-explosive grenades, even in a bunch of 3-4 pounds of effect, produced very little.
  22. would
    would 7 May 2016 18: 41
    +1
    I was always amused by accusatory questions in the spirit of "Could you ..." which are initially set in the tone of an assertion that such is impossible. You need to start with the fact that not only the personality of a person influences the act, but also the circumstances of the act, as well as the earlier experienced experience. In Russian: Soviet pre-war Masha lived in warmth and comfort, thought about her husband and future children, in her head it was not at all to take up arms. This is not a woman's business, you need to think about the family, and against whom?

    Our pre-war Masha is incapable of taking the rifle in her hands and coldly exterminating the enemy as if she was already dead. But then the war began, a bunch of reports of the dead, the German came to his native village and she fully felt the hand of the new owners. And then the SS came and burned her village with a thousand people, most of which she knew. With old people, women, children. After all this experience, this Masha hates the Nazi with every cell of her body, she is ready to tear it with her teeth and together with her husband picks up a weapon and leaves for the partisans. And after they kill her husband, but she remains and until the end of her rather short life is cold, impudently destroys the Fritz demonstrating true contempt for death. The pre-war Masha and Masha partisans are 2 different people.

    Plus, do not forget that in an extreme situation, a person's consciousness is capable of changing and such a state is quite clearly designated as a "combat trance". A real combat trance, and not those inventions that are written on the Internet.

    So no one can say for sure if he would have done something similar in the future. None.

    Secondly: Why go to bed with a grenade under the tank in our time? Why go to bed with a grenade under the tank? A grenade exists to throw it, which means it must be thrown into the least protected parts of the tank. In the war, this was, for example, the blinds of the air intakes of the power department. If everyone lays down under a tank with a grenade, then soon there will be no one to fight. In war, one must strive not to die, but to fulfill one's task. The dead fight poorly, kill the enemy badly, learn poorly to kill the enemy. And empty, ineffective suicide is sabotage, not heroism. So you need to learn not to go under the tank with a grenade, but to fight tanks normally. If you lie under one tank, you will destroy no more than one tank, you will throw grenades into vulnerable places, you have a real opportunity to destroy more than one tank.
  23. Logos
    Logos 8 May 2016 07: 02
    +1
    And you, Svyatyk, could lie with a grenade under the tank?

    And you asked this question to the child? M-yes, you would also ask his parents why they do not raise their child in the spirit of kamikaze
  24. kalibr
    kalibr 28 December 2016 07: 12
    0
    In fact, Polina is not correct to ask such questions to children. Their mentality differs from the mentality of adults, a different level of socialization and what we demand from adults cannot be required from children. There is even a discipline such as "Age pedagogy", which directly states that children of different ages are different. And children and adults are completely different.