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How Russians have become strangers in Tajikistan and what to do about it

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Strange things, to be honest. No, inciting hatred will not be here, but it is worth speculating about some things. With an eye to the future.


So, after the genocide in the nineties, which we actually forgot and forgave, a new wave of anti-Russian has begun in Tajikistan. Well, God bless her, with the Christmas tree, Santa Claus and Snow Maiden. They were there, actually, he had never been born, and it is possible to survive. Ethnically. Although the prohibition was definitely not worth it, if only because it is absolutely apolitical and kindly characters.

29 April, the Tajik authorities officially banned the citizens of their country from wearing Russian surnames and patronymic. That is, those that end in "-ov", "-ov", "-ovich" and "-ovna".

- If the situation does not change, then in 10 years our children will be divided into two groups, one will be proud of their Tajik names, the other will be carried by strangers. We must have national and patriotic feelings, ”said Jaloliddin Rakhimov, deputy head of the civil registry office.

But surnames, patronymic than guilty? What is reminded of some kind of community with us Russians? Strange.

Forgive me, gentlemen, Tajik national patriots, maybe, following the example of our former Baltic brethren, do you have something to remember and invoice?

However, the non-Russians overthrew the president in the already distant 1992 year, the non-Russians unleashed a civil war, calling for help all the Islamist blackness, starting from the Taliban and ending with Al-Qaeda.

Russians began to die at the hands of the Tajiks in 1990. This topic has been written enough by people who fled from Tajikistan in horror. And how many of those who did not have time, who died at the hands of those who were mad with "freedom"?

In the 1990 year in Tajikistan lived the most southern Russian community of the former USSR, numbering 437 thousands of people. After the civil war and general impoverishment in this now independent republic, no more than 40 thousand Russian-speaking citizens remained.

Finally get rid of? Your right, Mr. Rakhmonov.

Another question is whether the Russians from the 201 brigade will save your skin, as they once saved Nabiyev. Good such question.

But I will not go into further details. I will not begin to kindle.

However, I will note that everything that Mr. Rakhmonov does completely falls under the category of ethnocide.

If you translate into Russian, it does not arrive in a neighborly way.

And here the remark is no longer in the direction of Rakhmonov. Apparently, he feels well in his chair, since he allows himself to make such proposals. A note towards our authorities.

The above-mentioned Dzhaloliddin Rakhimov said that with residents who want to keep the end names, for example, "ov", "ova", "ovich", "ram" in the names of their children, explanatory work is being conducted.

“We, talking with them, explain that the goal is the Tajikization of surnames. If the situation does not change, then in ten years our children will be divided into two groups, one will bear Tajik names, the other will be carried by strangers. We must have and develop our national and patriotic feelings "

I think that we, Russians, Russians, in the person of our elected President and the government formed by him, must fight against such things. Imposing instead of Russian Tajik names, while calling these names "strangers", and saying that other people's names can split the society - this cannot be bypassed.

On the one hand, if a person is a citizen of Tajikistan, then this is his personal business, what name should he give to his child. However, if this person is Russian, then forcibly his otadzhikivat like not quite decent and legal.

Many sites have already sounded terrible appeals to the crowd of Tajiks working in Russia and living at the expense of these earnings. And, I note, in the independent poverty of Tajikistan, they live this well. A few years ago I came across Tajiks and Uzbeks working in Russia. Yes, frankly bestial existence here turns around built houses and a good life there.

The problem is not the point. Although the cheapness and unpretentiousness of migrant workers, too.

The problem is that we, Russia, have an obligation to protect Russians everywhere. And not necessarily with tanks and a soldier. It can be simpler and better.

If a person wants to remain Russian, if he wants his children to wear Russian surname, first name, patronymic name, and the Tajik is forcibly imposed on him, here we must act differently.

The program of assistance to compatriots abroad should be reviewed, and revised qualitatively. Ukrainian events have shown that we are not ready to protect ours. It is their own, those who would like to come to Russia not as a refugee and live for alms from good people, while the FMS will issue all the documents.

Such a person, unlike Gaster, will not come to sit out on the allowance. He is ready to come to work, pay taxes and be an ordinary citizen of the country. His, I note, the country, by the right of his birth.

So, we must think how to create such conditions. And by whom.

By the way, at the expense of someone - here you can save on Gaster. Reduce the quota for entry and work, and deal with the end. Based on 1 to 50. One Russian moved in - 50 Tajiks stayed at home. Yes, the license of one such Gaster - 4 thousands per month. Loss for the budget? Yes, a loss. But we are talking about the fact that the Russian was good or at least satisfactory.

I think that one Russian is worth 50 Tajiks. Moreover, all the money earned by them flies abroad and enriches the "foremen."

In Soviet times, people somehow did not bother about how and where to live. The party said "We must!", The people went. My grandfather Baikonur built, my father was born in Dzhezkazgan (old). Yes, it would have remained all there, if after Baikonur another object had not been built. But it is still not clear where I would live, and which citizen I was a citizen of.

Our authorities very much need to think about immigration policy. Very much.

Russia has shown that if anything - we are again strong and bad. Like good old times. And as in the same times, love and adoration will not add to us.

Presumably, the first swallows are still flying. The prohibition of Russian customs abroad, the prohibition of language, the struggle with all Russian.

Because when the next fighters for the purity of the blood of the nation start killing the Russians again, it will be too late.
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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 April 30 2016 12: 32
    +196
    "How Russians became strangers in Tajikistan and what to do about it"
    You'd better write how the Tajiks in Russia became "their own." And how long will this continue? And from Tajikistan we need a state program to evacuate Russian families to Russia! We need to help with burials, if necessary.
    1. made13
      made13 April 30 2016 12: 42
      +139
      Not only to evacuate their own, but also to expel strangers. Let your mouths go hungry.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy April 30 2016 13: 46
        -63%
        Quote: made13
        Not only to evacuate their own, but also to expel strangers. Let your mouths go hungry.

        You sod. I think we have a successful diplomat Lavrov, or am I mistaken? So let him agree with Bashi, we have 3 obscure working conditions, you are one of ours, or .. I think an adequate answer will appear. Send ... We are on the EU, civilized tea.
        1. Nikolay K
          Nikolay K April 30 2016 14: 36
          +8
          No need to send anyone. But the Foreign Ministry has something to do. Our position should be firm, but without hysteria: a change of surname should be voluntary.
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                4. Tatyana
                  Tatyana April 30 2016 17: 43
                  +13
                  And this is an excerpt from that very sensational video with Irina Farion in kindergarten, who came to explain to ALL young children at their children's level how bad it is to have Russian names. That ALL children need to change their Russian names to those sounding in the Ukrainian language. She is not interested in the Russian nationality of the child. Otherwise, their place is not in Ukraine, because then they are ALIEN. And they, along with their Russian names, together with their ethnically Russian parents, should "dump" out of Ukraine to Russia, since that is where they belong, and not in Ukraine. Here - in Ukraine - they are ALIEN!

                  See the video "Farion rules in kindergarten." Posted on: 13 Mar. 2014
                  Associate Professor Irina Farion - by the way, she is a deputy of the Lviv Regional Council - got all-Ukrainian fame for about ten minutes spent in one of the kindergartens in Lviv, talking? with the future electorate? . At the Meeting in the kindergarten, a demonstrative matinee was being prepared - and ...
                  1. Lens
                    Lens April 30 2016 19: 13
                    -10%
                    Yes, you already throw this Farion poke! Her and here in Ukraine Immediately transferred to the rank of violent. These frames for lunch are one hundred years old. Try to find her on the current Olympus. Everything - fell silent in a rag. Sits exactly on the pope and does not say too much.
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                    2. Tatyana
                      Tatyana April 30 2016 21: 28
                      +22
                      And do not be nervous about Farion, but rather calmly think about why you will have to "poke" it more than once, if necessary! She was cited as an example about the similar actions of one of the leaders of Tajikistan. And I did it right! We need to teach people on the mistakes of others before it's too late!
                      Well, from the fact that Farion, in your opinion, has gone into silence. She did her filthy job and, in theory, should be responsible for it. The case of Farion, which she propagandized for sale — probably, with grants from the US State Department — lives and smells in Ukraine. Who is in power in Ukraine now? Puppets of the USA! Under the flag of Bandera nationalism, Ukraine is ruled by puppet pro-American fascist Russophobes, an ethnic national minority native to Western Ukraine.
                      And the lands of Donbas and Lugansk - residents of the DPR and LPR - were sold by Yanukovych in January 2014 of the year to the foreign companies Shell and Chevron for the dirty mining of shale gas by fracking formally for 55 years, and actually forever. And the Armed Forces under the rule of Poroshenko is trying to return these lands to Baidan, to which they belong. Americans need Russophobia and hostility in Ukraine, so that there is someone to go to the ATO to liberate these lands for the Americans from the inhabitants of Donbass and Lugansk.
                      Tell Farion thanks for the fact that in Ukraine now blood is pouring into the ATO from both sides! Your Ukrainian Russophobia with the Jewish surname Farion has put a lot of effort into this for grants from the United States.

                      The performance of Farion in Donetsk was with fights and brawls. Posted on: 9 Jul. 2013

                      Giulietto CHIESA (Giulietto Chiesa) - UKRAINE - cleansing territories for hosts from Shell and Chevron Published: 2 Jul. 2014

                      The head of the DPR, Alexander Zakharchenko: We will definitely ask for our fallen friends. Posted: 21 Apr 2016
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 1 May 2016 12: 22
                        +8
                        By the way, for a complete picture of Ukraine as a geopolitical outhouse for the United States and the “collective West”, it makes sense to also recall this recent speech by B, B, Zhirinovsky, in which he answers pro-American Russian liberals, American diplomats and a stupid Ukrainian nationalist on about the geopolitical tasks of the United States, the role of NATO, the outcast of Ukraine and the 3 World War with Russia.
                        By the way, all the countries where the USA comes to become their geopolitical outhouses. And Tajikistan, with its such Dzhaloliddinov Rakhimov in the country's leadership will be an American geopolitical outhouse too. Tajiks should prepare for such a future.

                        See the video “Zhirinovsky about UKRAINE. New. All right said. " Posted: 11 Apr 2015
                      2. Talgat
                        Talgat 2 May 2016 17: 41
                        +4
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        By the way, all the countries where the USA comes to become their geopolitical outhouses. And Tajikistan, with its such Dzhaloliddinov Rakhimov in the country's leadership will be an American geopolitical outhouse too.


                        I completely agree, they become. But I hope all the same Tajiks will not

                        and the initiative is generally stupid - how can people be denied their names? I hope this is some kind of fake and false news

                        It would be impossible for us - there is a name in Kazakh style, but there are a lot of Ovy and Ovich - and various Nurlanovich and Serikovich and Kabaev and Esenalins, etc. and it is unrealistic for them to forbid using their name.

                        And Russian names for Kazakhs are not new at all - even more than a thousand years ago, many of our (I mean Kipchaks) khans had Russian names and spoke Russian - the same famous Danila Kobyakovich or Yuri Konchakovich, etc.

                        Of course you need to keep your story and remember your
                        th nation and so on - but without denying your own story

                      3. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 2 May 2016 20: 48
                        +2
                        Here there is an EXTREMELY interesting fresh video with analytical calculations by Igor Berkut about how the structure of society in Ukraine has changed after the loss of Crimea and Donbass, and what will it lead to in the near future?
                        Take time and be sure to listen! It is very important! And then we will polemicize with each other past current information.

                        Video "Igor Berkut. Jews or Galicians? 28.04.2016 [Rassvet.TV] Published: 28 Apr 2016

                        ATTENTION! Here: http://aurora-kv.com/ books by I. BERKUT and R. VASILISHIN "Brother" and "Brother-2"

                5. shasherin.pavel
                  shasherin.pavel 2 May 2016 19: 41
                  +2
                  Quote: Lens
                  Sits exactly on the pope

                  And it should lie on her stomach with a smoothly grooved.
                  Quote: Lens
                  transferred to the rank of violent.

                  So why not in a psychiatric hospital if violent?
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          5. fif21
            fif21 April 30 2016 17: 19
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            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            further you can not explain, no one will listen to you already
            I'm not from the Foreign Ministry laughing It can be explained wassat
            1. Mahmut
              Mahmut April 30 2016 19: 30
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              I do not want to incite ethnic hatred ...

              You want, you want. Oh, whatever you want. I know for sure if you want ...
              What happened in the 90s is not genocide, but an ordinary criminal revolution. Those Russians who were friendly and were able to unite - fought back and still live, do not cough. But kurkuli, individualists and hatskrayniki those yes, they were draping to the station in the same slippers, writing with fear of boiling water. And not only from Tajikistan, but also from the Donbass. What is there from the Donbass? Such scammers and in Russia in the 90s squeezed housing.
              1. 933454818
                933454818 1 May 2016 10: 59
                +23
                "We were able to unite and fought back" is about whom? About Russians living in Tajikistan (Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, etc.)? Where did the Russians manage to fight off the state? You are saying something wrong, in my opinion. I left Uzbekistan in the 90s and barely had time to take out my father and mother with their belongings, then they began to "clamp" containers, inspect the property, etc. I remember this time well, when a whole nation starts (at the behest "from above", of course) badly treats foreigners, then there is only one way out - they will not be allowed to live. Uzbekistan quickly realized that it was losing and now "from above" was another go-ahead - for friendship, but for how long? I do not understand the position of the Russian authorities - why are they not encouraging the arrival of Russians from abroad? In the 90s, not half of the Russians who tried to leave for Russia returned back ...
                1. Nordman
                  Nordman 1 May 2016 17: 18
                  -28%
                  Quote: 933454818
                  "We were able to unite and fought back" is about whom? About Russians living in Tajikistan (Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, etc.)? Where did the Russians manage to fight off the state? You are saying something wrong, in my opinion. I left Uzbekistan in the 90s and barely had time to take out my father and mother with their belongings, then they began to "clamp" containers, inspect the property, etc. I remember this time well, when a whole nation starts (at the behest "from above", of course) badly treats foreigners, then there is only one way out - they will not be allowed to live. Uzbekistan quickly realized that it was losing and now "from above" was another go-ahead - for friendship, but for how long? I do not understand the position of the Russian authorities - why are they not encouraging the arrival of Russians from abroad? In the 90s, not half of the Russians who tried to leave for Russia returned back ...

                  Poor Russians, everyone offends and persecutes them. Especially in Russia, the poor are driven from their homeland to Germany! Without hypocrisy, how many people on the forum have relatives in Germany? Believe me, there are many of them, and Russians in Berlin as Tajiks in Moscow.
                  1. 933454818
                    933454818 1 May 2016 17: 45
                    +11
                    What are you talking about? About Germany or Russia? You would put it more clearly. We are talking about Russians in the so-called near abroad, who were sent there after college (college, school) or people went to work and suddenly the collapse of the Union, all guarantees were sideways, all the constitutions ended and people were left alone with a foreign state.
                  2. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 1 May 2016 20: 18
                    +14
                    Nordman
                    Russians in Berlin as Tajiks in Moscow
                    Do not confuse in Germany ethnic Russians with Russified ethnic Germans who left Russia for Germany under a special German state program for the resettlement of Russians with German national roots to their long-standing ethnic historical homeland.
                    Ethno-Russians, etc. "Russian" Germans are actually not the same thing. Well, there are ethnic Russians in Germany for some reason, but there are not many of them, rather Russian half-breeds.
                2. Rarog
                  Rarog 1 May 2016 20: 39
                  +12
                  Oh, poor Germans, because unlike the white Caucasians, the Christian faith, with a close Indo-European branch of languages ​​and in general with a set of values ​​common for European civilization - the Russian people, and in truth, in most cases, as Tatyana said - Russianized ethnic Germans - The settlers from the Middle East are much closer to you!?! After all, this is precisely why you are comparing the "alien" Russians in Germany with the Tajiks in Russia so close to you ... they have practically the same traditions and culture as your favorite refugees from the East.
            2. Ria
              Ria 1 May 2016 22: 42
              +17
              Lying. There was genocide in the Soviet republics of Central Asia in the 90s. There were terrible cases of reprisals against the unarmed population of the Russian-speaking population, most of them Russians. They killed, burned alive, intimidated - everything in order to establish their Basmak power. Why stay in such republics where a brilliant Russian professional was persecuted from work for not knowing the "state language"? Therefore, everyone who could left and began to build their lives in Russia from scratch, without housing, support, money. Nothing, got on our feet and live, working for the good of our country, and waited until the former "titular" Asians came to us But the debt is red in payment. I want them to drink their freedom from the Russians. It's time to treat them pragmatically, let only qualified workers into the country, take all of them under control, so that they don't take steps towards unnecessary ones, and the rest - let them stand in line for years for the right to earn money in Russia. Maybe then the attitude towards Russians will be normal - for every case of hostility towards Russia, stop issuing work visas for an indefinite period. They will live on their tugriks, they will quickly understand from which side the bread is smeared with butter. They do not understand the other attitude, such a mentality.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 2 May 2016 00: 52
                0
                Dear forum users! I carefully read almost all of your posts - both above and below. Much has been said quite correctly about the Russian question in the countries of the former USSR.
                But you take the countdown of the Russian question in time from the 1990 of the year, but you need to take it from the 1917 of the year. After all, the Russian question exists in modern Russia. He has not gone anywhere.
                National problems in the USSR were not only at the very beginning of Soviet power, but also had a national-bourgeois class character in relation to the Russian people. The counter-bourgeois revolution in the USSR as a whole only raised to the surface the already existing national-bourgeois deformations during the construction of socialism in Russia, which the Soviet leadership tried not to publicize.
                I advise you to read the report of one of the conferences devoted to the Russian question in Russia - and everything in your head will fall into place.
                Zueva T.F. Russian question. National crisis and democracy: the administrative-territorial structure of Russia. - SPb .: publishing house. Suvorin of the Union of Writers of Russia, 1995. - 32 sec.
                This work is in the electronic fund of the Russian National Library.
                http://leb.nlr.ru/agate/lists/docs/?ipp=15&page=1060
                You will find a colored cover on the page. There is blood on the cover of the brochure.
                Or directly type
                http://primo.nlr.ru/primo_library/libweb/action/dlDisplay.do?vid=07NLR_VU1&searc
                h_scope = default_scope & docId = 07NLR_LMS010189542 & fn = permalink
            3. shasherin.pavel
              shasherin.pavel 2 May 2016 19: 57
              +2
              They forgot or didn’t know, but it was in the news that the Tajiks in 30 meters from the entrance to the police, doused three Russians with gasoline and set it on fire. They themselves posted it on the Internet as a government official stood on the porch and watched and smoked a cigarette, as people burned alive. Everything is like in Odessa, someone is on fire, someone is taking pictures, law enforcement officers are smoking aside. Only for Odessa we still cry, but they don’t want to remember about Tajikistan. Zhirinovsky is needed in the presidents so that nationalistic creatures from their swamp do not croak.
        2. skeptic
          skeptic April 30 2016 23: 02
          +3
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          Quote: fif21
          Chocks need to explain

          further you can not explain, no one will listen to you already


          How to say, or rather what weapon.
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    2. lukke
      lukke April 30 2016 15: 25
      -5
      No need to send anyone. But the Foreign Ministry has something to do. Our position should be firm, but without hysteria: a change of surname should be voluntary.
      The law applies only to citizens of Tajikistan and Tajiks by nationality. All other citizens of Tajikistan (not Tajiks) are free to choose names, surnames and patronymics in their own way. Of course, we can say that this law infringes on Tajiks, who "became Russified" and consider surnames, names and patronymics in our way the norm. But in general - Roman Skomorokhov heard the ringing ...
      1. Jack-b
        Jack-b April 30 2016 16: 57
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        Quote: lukke
        But in general - Roman Skomorokhov heard a ringing ...

        Yes, now the entire Internet is retyping this heresy. The mind to figure out what's missing. The fact that this applies exclusively to Tajik surnames and their Russified spellings (such as Rakhmon-Rakhmonov) is somehow not noticed by everyone. People along the way get dumb from over-browsing the Internet.
      2. lukke
        lukke 2 May 2016 15: 53
        0
        it is gratifying to observe how 13 deb..lov did not read the Law, but because the minus signs are not consistent with their vision) as we said in childhood
        "Alga Komsomol!"
    3. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy April 30 2016 18: 09
      +2
      Quote: Nikolai K
      No need to send anyone. But the Foreign Ministry has something to do. Our position should be firm, but without hysteria: a change of surname should be voluntary.

      Do not taxi. I’ll create such conditions for you, you’re not a surname, you will give a kidney to a hero to an American ranger, a defender of civilization.
      Therefore, no tantrums. I'm sorry, I have to bargain.
      Salvage may come from China or the states. Rather, China is squeezing. What is the opposite? We are you! It can turn out very funny, we lose face. If we can not resist the influence of China, money, weapons, wins in geopolitics (what I mean, for them). There are no trump cards. Crawl away, but don’t sign the papers. An example of China. 200 years will pass and everything will return to square one.
      Lord, ahead of eternity and justice. I am sure we will have something to present. And the powerful Kazakhs, too.
    4. skeptic
      skeptic April 30 2016 22: 59
      +13
      Quote: Nikolai K
      No need to send anyone. But the Foreign Ministry has something to do. Our position should be firm, but without hysteria: a change of surname should be voluntary.


      Especially provided that from the countries of Central Asia, only people with Russian names will be allowed to work in Russia ...(change of surname should be voluntary).
    5. user
      user 1 May 2016 22: 51
      +4
      One must think that the first swallows are still flying.


      Yes, in Siberia, these swallows live for 25 years, after the well-known events in any settlement you will meet these immigrants, they left everything there and settled here long ago (I’m talking about Russian speakers). So it’s just that the author is not in the know, and there’s no one to move anymore, everyone who wanted and could already be here (having suffered considerable material losses, but everything settled down in their heads and they haven’t had such projects in their heads for a long time) .
    6. AK64
      AK64 2 May 2016 13: 34
      +6
      Tajikistan does not need a Foreign Ministry. Special Forces needed for Tajikistan.
      But while foreigners are sitting in the Kremlin, they will humiliate Russians everywhere and everywhere: do not be fooled, humiliation of Russians is the Kremlin’s policy.
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    8. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 2 May 2016 19: 38
      0
      Quote: Nikolai K
      a change of surname should be compulsory voluntary.

      It also happens voluntarily. Because you don’t want to, but there is good will of a good uncle.
  2. Ezhaak
    Ezhaak April 30 2016 14: 47
    +7
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    I think we have a successful diplomat Lavrov, or am I mistaken? So let him agree with Bashi

    Well, he will come to an agreement with Bashi, and who is with ordinary misbegotten ones who in ISIS / Daish are torn in the hope of a dozen houris? It all started at the end of the 80s of the last century, they slowed down a couple of times, but all the same, it is almost impossible to stop the cart rolling from the top of the mountain. Savvy representatives who left for Russia in the mentioned times settled down, settled down and live the same. full Russians have become. And my family as well. And those who remain there today expect that the Russians will immediately move as soon as they find out that 25 years later "Russian foreigners" have arrived. We need to vacate their jobs. Provide living space.
    Just last year, a friend moved. Okay, I bought a house, well done. But with work he couldn’t find it. Admonished, still a good friend. BUT after all, not everyone has friends here! Personally, I do not understand what all the Russians living in the countries of the former USSR hope for there? So plow how they plow in those republics and here you can, in Russia.
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy April 30 2016 15: 52
      +1
      Hedgehog (4) RU Today, 14:47 ↑
      Honestly, I didn’t understand what you mean.
      I wrote that our diplomats can find solutions to the problems of our people abroad. And without a lot of stress. If the national GDP of the republic depends by tens of% on relations with us, then there should be notions. (kicked back home and will begin, sorry, "Pugachevism").
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak April 30 2016 17: 41
        +4
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Honestly, I didn’t understand what you mean.

        Let me explain. Diplomats come to an agreement among themselves. But the people on these contracts, if they want, of course, drink from the top of a large mountain, and they get it when they need it. As if you do not know how you feel about the decisions of the next congress of "United Russia". laughing
  3. dark_65
    dark_65 April 30 2016 20: 47
    +8
    we don’t need to negotiate. but it is necessary to express our opinion (of the people). in my opinion, "non-assholes home .. they don’t care to do here." Black-asses "for me are not representatives of some kind of people, namely those who live at my house. does not accept my culture. rules of conduct.
  4. dkflbvbh
    dkflbvbh April 30 2016 20: 53
    +9
    These were like animals and so they remained ... The whole regime there rests on bayonets 201 MSD (or what is it called there?). Under me (1996-99) the Russians there were only those who had no where to go and the old people (who the Yeltsin regime didn’t even need, and the present is the same). Therefore, the situation with their departure (I think) has changed little ... The entire literate and capable population (not only Russians ...) escaped during the civilian era.
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  6. Nonna
    Nonna 2 May 2016 23: 54
    +4
    The author of the article is right and even too soft in his expressions. Russophobia must be stopped in the bud. We, the people who were expelled from these republics, felt all the hatred towards us. At first they fired from work, then they went with posters, and then they went to kill. Correctly, Roman writes - you need to collect Russians in Russia, not Gaster. And give my work,. so that our people prosper, and not ki who come here to rob, rape and kill, as 6 people were killed in Syzran
    1. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS 3 May 2016 00: 29
      +4
      Quote: Nonna
      The author of the article is right and even too soft in his expressions. Russophobia must be stopped in the bud. We, the people who were expelled from these republics, felt all the hatred towards us.

      Totally agree with you! drinks
      And then, on the next branch, the Kazakhs quickly found kinship with the Uzbeks, and immediately with the Tajiks, etc., but "modestly" (damn it) completely deny the contribution of Russian civilization to their darkest republics, some kind of ignorant ingratitude.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 3 May 2016 01: 47
        +2
        PHANTOM-AS
        And then here on the next branch Kazakhs quickly found kinship with the Uzbeks, and right there with the Tajiks, etc.but "modest" (damn it) completely deny the contribution of Russian civilization to their darkest republics, some ignorant ingratitude.

        From the report of the 1995 conferences on the Russian question in Russia.
        On the one hand, the Russian people, who believed in the communist idea of ​​the Bolshevik-Leninists, and, being the bearer of a sovereign mentality, really built up socialism on all fronts of social construction throughout the country as a whole of its multinational homeland. As a matter of fact, he had no choice but to do anything. But at the same time, on the other hand, in the former tsarist national suburbs, where feudal relations still prevailed and there was no own national proletariat, power was gained from the Bolshevik-Leninists and under their control by the petty national bourgeoisie and former local feudal lords. National industry was built by the hands of the Russian and Russian-speaking peoples. Moreover, everything that was truly created national during the years of Soviet power in the once backward tsarist national suburbs - national republics - is only the local national party and Soviet bureaucracy, as well as the national creative intelligentsia that serves it (social scientists, writers, artists etc.). This national party and Soviet intelligentsia objectively retained the national bourgeois-feudal mentality on not only their own working people, but also the Russians who came to “hunch on them” up to the time of the so-called Gorbachev “new thinking” ( Zueva T.F. Russian Question, p. 25).

        Literature.
        1. Zueva T.F. Russian question. National crisis and democracy: the administrative-territorial structure of Russia. - SPb .: publishing house. Suvorin of the Union of Writers of Russia, 1995. - 32 sec.
        This work is in the electronic fund of the Russian National Library.
        http://leb.nlr.ru/agate/lists/docs/?ipp=15&page=1060
        You will find a colored cover on the page. There is blood on the cover of the brochure.
        Or directly type
        http://primo.nlr.ru/primo_library/libweb/action/dlDisplay.do?vid=07NLR_VU1&searc
        h_scope = default_scope & docId = 07NLR_LMS010189542 & fn = permalink
        1. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS 3 May 2016 02: 08
          +2
          Quote: Tatiana
          Tatyana

          Tatyana! with full respect to you!
          All these rear-wheel drive materials, the same nonsense proper, like all the Gorbachevskoyakolevsko-Yeltsin-Putin propaganda!
          I treat your comments very carefully and with great respect, but if you have doubts about the film "Officers", then
          Read the source! Start at least with http://lib.ru/MEMUARY/STALIN/stalin_cite.txt
          Best regards hi
          PS. My grandfather was born in 1901, in the 20s he fought with the Basmachs in Turkestan, it is easier to say, he established Soviet power there. Remained a personalized "Mauser", front-line awards, his letters and grandmother's memories. good
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 3 May 2016 02: 54
            +1
            PHANTOM-AS
            ............

            Thank you Victor! I have no doubts about the film "Officers", but I will definitely watch the material you recommend.
            And I recommend that you read "The Russian Question" by TF Zueva. This was the central deductive and analytical report for the April n / practical. conference in 1995 dedicated to the beginning of the war in Dudayev's Ichkeria (in Chechnya). In 2010, the brochure was presented to Putin, he read it. It is also kept in the archives of the Ministry of Education and Science. There is also a psychological aspect of the struggle of ethnic groups, their place and role in building the state. Scientists still refer to this work in their scientific research.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 3 May 2016 03: 35
              +1
              PHANTOM-AS
              ............

              Dear Victor! Thank you so much for a very useful link! This is just what I may need and is interesting, otherwise I didn’t read anything from Stalin. We did not go through his work at the university. In addition, in 1991, by order of Yeltsin, sobr. Op. Stalin and Lenin were removed from all school and district libraries.
              1. Nonna
                Nonna 3 May 2016 10: 02
                +1
                Tatyana. Lay out very useful and necessary things, excellent analysis. Continue in the same spirit. We need such precise knowledge, because it is spinning in my head, but you cannot precisely formulate it. Thanks you
              2. PHANTOM-AS
                PHANTOM-AS 3 May 2016 12: 22
                0
                Quote: Tatiana
                Tatyana

                I am very glad that it turned out to be useful. But the fact that I threw it off is a bit
                Quote: Tatiana
                We did not go through his work at the university. In addition, in 1991, by order of Yeltsin, Sobr. Op. Stalin and Lenin were removed from all school and district libraries.

                That's about the speech that the publications of Lenin and Stalin were practically removed from public access in order to be able to fool the people and mostly the younger generation.
                And after all, note that these comrades wrote all their articles and speeches themselves! And when you start to get a grasp, you understand the genius and insight of these Geniuses. After reading, the picture of modernity and its events become very clear.
  • HERMES
    HERMES April 30 2016 13: 51
    -7
    Quote: made13
    How Russians have become strangers in Tajikistan and what to do about it


    Keep a rack on your ears ...

    It’s not necessary to roll a barrel on the people ... but the Tajik government is playing dangerous games, and will play out.
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    2. bocsman
      bocsman April 30 2016 14: 46
      +21
      The topic is painful and not new, in almost all the former republics of the USSR, Russian and Russian speakers have been turned into outcasts. They were blamed for the actual and alleged mistakes made by the leadership of the unfortunately no existing country. It is clear that the search for the enemy to cover up his stupidity and theft is an old proven method. But he cannot serve as an excuse for the current authorities. And even more so as an excuse for Russia, which left its children to the mercy of fate. What is it, weakness or indifference or worse, betrayal!? And I think that this is a global mistake! Every amoeba on earth must know, if you touch a Russian, you will get such an answer that it will not seem enough! And then there will be no questions, - Why are Russians not respected? Although it’s too late to start, it is necessary to give in the teeth of every presumptuous pig to whatever country it belongs to!
      1. fif21
        fif21 April 30 2016 15: 00
        +23
        Quote: bocsman
        The topic is painful and not new, in almost all the former republics of the USSR, Russian and Russian speakers have been turned into outcasts.
        And this is the "merit" of the Russian authorities, they are only interested in the electorate, and they do not protect people abroad. It is also necessary to defend the rights of Russians.
        1. Mikado
          Mikado April 30 2016 17: 06
          +9
          Quote: fif21
          [The Russian authorities, they are only interested in the electorate, and they do not protect people abroad. Zhoshe need to defend the rights of Russian.

          The best way to defend is economic pressure. They don’t understand for good - we are sending migrants. And all according to the law, you can find thousands of reasons. With an official stone face.
          The article is correct. In my opinion, far from geopolitics, we do not need such allies. When our own industry is thwarted, half of the country lives and works with us (and also commits a bunch of crimes), and all the money goes to the family of the next president, who feels like a medieval caliph and is engaged in such demarches - such an ally only brings harm. It seems to me that such rulers will become enemies overnight if someone offers a higher price. The only thing is, if we leave there, the bases of our "sworn friends" may immediately appear there. And bearded barmaley in large numbers.
          But in order to stop living in captivity of illusions about "fraternal peoples" and begin to interact with such countries as with the rest (without privileges and indulgences, only business), it is necessary to take the Russians out of there. Russians can be pressured. And this requires a targeted state program, so that people are sure that they will be accommodated in their own apartments and given normal work. And it is the state that should do this. He has money, and a lot. The question is, to whom and how they leave. And this is precisely what should become a part of the integral ideology of the state: we do not abandon our own.
        2. Rarog
          Rarog April 30 2016 22: 01
          +3
          Quote: fif21
          ... and they do not protect people abroad. Zhoshe need to defend the rights of Russian.


          What is the foreign country for our authorities ?! They in Russia do not consider us Russians as people ... and you mean abroad. The Kremlin persons of "biblical" nationality seem to have a dream - the destruction of the Russian people. At first they divided us into three nations (thanks to Ulyanov-Blank), opposing each other, the present Ukraine (Little Russia) is an example of this, and now they stubbornly replace us in our own land with immigrants from Central Asia and the Caucasus, and the remaining Russians (we are Ethnic Russians for now another 80+% of all citizens of the Russian Federation) are brainwashed turning us into Russians.
          1. Kaiten
            Kaiten April 30 2016 22: 36
            -13%
            Quote: Rarog
            Among the Kremlin persons of "biblical" nationality

            Well, finally, but I was wondering when the guilty would appear. By the way, your president, what nationality?
            1. atalef
              atalef April 30 2016 23: 16
              -5
              Quote: Kaiten
              Well, finally, but I thought when the guilty

              Who would doubt that laughing
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker April 30 2016 23: 28
                +10
                Quote: atalef
                Quote: Kaiten
                Well, finally, but I thought when the guilty
                Who would doubt that

                Have you decided to sit in ambush?
                wassat
                laughing
                1. Kaiten
                  Kaiten 1 May 2016 13: 41
                  -5
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  Quote: atalef
                  Quote: Kaiten
                  Well, finally, but I thought when the guilty
                  Who would doubt that

                  Have you decided to sit in ambush?
                  wassat
                  laughing

                  Yes, Tajiks cannot do without us.
            2. Rarog
              Rarog 1 May 2016 07: 10
              +12
              Quote: Kaiten

              Well, finally, but I was wondering when the guilty would appear.


              And that your brother was not the driving force of the revolution? Maybe look at the "density" of Jews among the top of the Communist Party, especially in the first post-revolutionary years. And no one will forget the steps aimed at destroying the Russian people. So, do not be "offended" by the special love for you, by the way, not only from the Russians ... the whole world adores you, probably there is something for that.

              Quote: Kaiten
              By the way, your president, what nationality?


              Yes, he seems to be of Russian nationality, only if he defends Russian interests ... he continues his national policy in your patterns.
              1. Kaiten
                Kaiten 1 May 2016 13: 33
                -9
                Quote: Rarog
                And that your brother was not the driving force of the revolution? Maybe look at the "density" of Jews among the top of the Communist Party, especially in the first post-revolutionary years. And no one will forget the steps aimed at the destruction of the Russian people.


                Yes, it was written a million times, and by your Russian participants in the forum, it is not necessary to turn the social conflict, such as the revolution, into an international Russian-Jewish war. Otherwise, you can’t explain in any way the participation of Russian officers and generals on the side of the Red Army and the support of a certain part of the White Guard Jewry (read, for example, where Marina Tsvetaeva’s husband, Sergey Efron, fought).

                Quote: Rarog

                Yes, he seems to be of Russian nationality, only if he defends Russian interests ... he continues his national policy in your patterns.

                Well, since he is Russian, then again we are talking about a social conflict within Russia. You, the inhabitants of Russia, voted for Putin, you elected him to power. No need to bring us the Israelis claims about his policy, it is at least stupid.
                1. Rarog
                  Rarog 1 May 2016 14: 16
                  +8
                  You always do everything with the wrong hands, indirectly using the most powerful tool - finance. And of course you have nothing to do with it.

                  Beginning with the Khazar Kaganate, you had nothing to do with it, when for a couple of generations from the new "persecuted poor fellows", with the help of usury, you turned into the ruling class, expelling or destroying the present rulers, and began to rob your "wards" and their neighbors, including Russia ...

                  You had nothing to do with paying for the most ardent rebels, improving your position in the Russian Empire (by the way, you deserved it since the defeat of Khazaria) and becoming the head of the new Soviet Empire, simultaneously destroying the color of the Russian nation, playing on the contradictions between the estates (avenging Khazaria?), Expelling some, destroying others.

                  Then, in the 30s, you were "subdued" from the helm, but in the late 80s and early 90s, you once again struck a blow to my Country and my People.

                  Yes, I almost forgot, you had nothing to do with it when the banks headed by Jews sponsored a monster - Hitler.

                  Now you also "have nothing to do with it", you just seized power in one of the parts of my Motherland - Little Russia and staged genocide there, when one part of the Russians, believing that they are Ukrainians, by the way, thanks to one figure by the name of Blank, kills others, those who are not forgot their name.

                  The surnames of most oligarchs of the Russian Federation speak for themselves, by the way the way they relate to my Country and People only confirms your attitude to Russia and the Russians.

                  In Syria, you are helping ISIS, just to destroy the Arabs by the hands of the Arabs, by the way, your relatives in the haplogroup. Or, for example, the incident with the Druze - citizens of Israel, who stopped the IDF vehicles with wounded ISIS fighters - an accident and you again "have nothing to do with it" ?!

                  What are you so good at all times and in all countries so dearly loved and loved ?! By the way, let’s not forget about your religion, where the whole essence of your attitude to other nations is perfectly revealed to you, and you have lived with these ideas and cases based on them for more than a century ... and you have nothing to do with it. And how do you still have the audacity to call someone fascists / nazis with such a teaching about second-classness of other nations in relation to yours ?!

                  Your attempts to push all your "accomplishments" onto others will not convince me otherwise, the contradiction in your words and deeds is too obvious.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 1 May 2016 14: 28
                    -5
                    Quote: Rarog
                    Your attempts to push all your "accomplishments" onto others will not convince me otherwise, the contradiction in your words and deeds is too obvious.


                  2. Svidetel 45
                    Svidetel 45 1 May 2016 22: 54
                    -4
                    But nevertheless, it is not worth the revenge of all Jews one size fits all, because there were many who also benefited Russia, I think there are Jews, there are Jews and there are Jews, every Jew is a Jew, but not every Jew is a Jew, but among the latter categories can be completely Slavic roots. And in general, every time it jars me when they say that the Jews are all raspberries to us in Russia ... whether everything was so good, but then they came and that's it ... what is it, our people are 150 million so helpless , a handful of Jews came (well, yes, a regiment of Latvian riflemen) and broke Russia's neck, plunged it into the chaos of the revolution and civil war. No, it’s probably not just the Jews, although it’s probably easier to explain all our problems this way. Yes, probably, not all the qualities and properties of the Jewish people can evoke sympathy, but in my opinion, the point is different, being scattered 2 thousand years ago all over the world, they and among other peoples for the most part preserved their national identity, did not particularly strive to become Germans, French or Russians, and this always strains, just as Western Europeans are strained by the desire of Russians to remain Russians in Russia, hence they have such a "love" for Russians, a feeling of enmity and hostility towards us, no matter what we say and did.
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                2. PHANTOM-AS
                  PHANTOM-AS 3 May 2016 00: 58
                  +4
                  Quote: Kaiten
                  the participation of Russian officers and generals on the side of the red army

                  this is where did you find the Jews in the White Guard ???
                  And this is after the Black Hundred pogroms?
                  You really have no shame and no conscience!
                  And in this sense, despite my beliefs, I am increasingly taking the side of my friend NVV (prematurely departed) and are becoming very opposed, i.e. anti! By the way, with all your existence, you should be grateful to our glorious Red Army, and without it, stoves, chuyumadany, yes gloves ... you hitler without a problem provided.

                  Be at least grateful! Otherwise ... you would live like that ... and by the way ... there were such individuals among your brothers
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  • rpek32
    rpek32 April 30 2016 15: 15
    -1
    29 April, the Tajik authorities officially banned the citizens of their country from wearing Russian surnames and patronymic. That is, those that end in "-ov", "-ov", "-ovich" and "-ovna".


    At the time of publication of the article, the Tajik Foreign Ministry had already issued a refutation.
    I don’t understand what fuss is about?
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir April 30 2016 15: 33
    0
    Quote: made13
    Not only to evacuate

    are you ready for this? !!!!
  • Pasha
    Pasha 1 May 2016 20: 10
    +3
    It would be nice. Emigrants is a white bone. They are Russian and they do not need to prove it. If VV dare to return them under the guarantee of the state, WE will crown him. And they will tell and teach us a lot.
    to return the Russians to Russia, our ELITE will not do this. then you have to admit that they .... before the Russian genocide.
    hammer "genocide r" in Yandex and see when and where?
    Do you want to be tolerant? not sure.
    whether you want to see THEM, in our yards. Whose relatives mocked the Russians, or THEM who are now 35 years old, and "mocked" is a tolerant word.
    and the Foreign Ministries have nothing to do with it, it’s a yard policy, it’s only Zhirik could voice in due time.
  • Cheshire
    Cheshire April 30 2016 12: 56
    +15
    from Tajikistan we need a state program to evacuate Russian families to Russia!

    In no case. Do not accept refugees, but solve the problem on the spot. We will decide in Tajikistan, others will hammer their Wishlist in a duplex. And there is nothing to be ashamed of their complexes.

    Minus boldly.
    And how long will it last

    As much as we will accept refugees.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 April 30 2016 13: 23
      +3
      Observer! It seems you yesterday threatened to cut off electricity to them. Replace them with burned inserts. Or something else, so as not to guess.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 April 30 2016 14: 37
        +1
        Mordvin 3 (1) RU Today, 13:23 ↑
        Observer! It seems you yesterday threatened to cut off electricity to them. Replace them with burned inserts. Or something else, so as not to guess.

        And you, my friend, carefully read all the comments from the beginning! And then make statements laughing And please pay attention to the time comments are posted (just in case) laughingI'm waiting for an apology repeat
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 April 30 2016 17: 58
          +3
          Oh mother dear, minuses are sculpted. And there aren’t enough comments of the mind down laughing
          1. marshes
            marshes April 30 2016 18: 07
            +2
            Quote: Observer2014
            Oh mother dear, minuses are sculpted. And there aren’t enough comments of the mind down

            What is not clear here, you want the pluses you need to find a suitable topic in front.
            In mind, you need to wait a bit and somewhere in the middle .... laughing
            In principle, half is "extinguished" to become a marshal, damn it AZART
            In general, how many times they minus me, I expressed my main point of view, and this is the main thing. smile
            And they read, seriously read ... there and to everyone. smile
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 April 30 2016 22: 21
            +2
            Yes, for God's sake, catch my apology. hi laughing
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy April 30 2016 14: 04
      +1
      Cheshire (2) RU Today, 12:56 PM ↑
      Zaminusovat, as commanded boldly.
      Declare boldly:
      1. On whose mill pour water.
      2. For whom you work.
      3. Who pays excitement and excitement.
      ... or completely free ... well then to you to the pharmacist.
      When they bow, then they resist. And everyone respects this. But sit down, talk, understand, find (sorry) consensus. This work is such that you never dreamed of. Lavrov to the studio!
      It was not for nothing that Central Asia was called the overbridge of Russia. On the other hand, Achilles must have a weak point.
      We will continue to live. And as always, everyone will have a bummer on our account. With a capital O.
      1. Cheshire
        Cheshire April 30 2016 20: 09
        -1
        Mavrikiy Today, 14: 04
        Declare boldly:
        1. On whose mill pour water.
        2. For whom you work.
        3. Who pays excitement and excitement.
        ... or completely free ... well then to you to the pharmacist.

        I declare boldly:
        1. I have never been to a mill, much less a water mill. request
        2. I work for Ramaza. I can indicate the organization and position if you specify for what purpose you are interested.
        3. Excitement and excitement are free, I registered with the pharmacist, thank you. hi

        If you allow me, I will express the opinion: all three questions about the same thing (the one who hires usually “pays for excitement and excitement,” and water is poured into his mill) - one could ask one. request If you want to express your dissatisfaction with the opinions of others - please, but not everyone will understand such veiled phrases.
        To fall to minuses - fu .. stop This is not my style.
  • g1v2
    g1v2 April 30 2016 13: 21
    +20
    Tajiks became their own in Russia when we included them in Russia, and then the USSR. In my opinion - this is obvious. request Like the other peoples of the USSR.
    WHAT NOW OUR COUNTRY DECLINED DOES NOT MEAN THAT THIS IS ITS LAST BORDERS. At one time, Kievan Rus fell into pieces and was conquered, but time passed and the Russian state became independent again and began to fight for the return of its lands. This struggle lasted five hundred years - until the return of the last Russian land (Galicia - the former Galician principality). Now we have broken up again and again the conquerors are waiting for the opportunity to crush us and join us in parts. However, we recovered again and again begin the struggle for the return of the fragments of our civilization. And Central Asia is also part of our civilization. These are markets for our products and human resources. Refuse them - and our enemies will pick them up, arm them and send against us.
    We’ll begin to measure the incision of the eyes - we will sleep and our territory. So to fight for the preservation of our influence, it is necessary that Central Asia for which our ancestors perished remain a part of our civilization, and not go to the Turks, Americans or anyone else. I think the American missiles in the SA or the ISIS base in Uzbekistan didn’t bother us in x .. Therefore, it is necessary to fight.
    Well, what about blood, and so on. Purely for reference. The Slavs are characterized by the haplogroup r1a, the borders of its distribution in Europe clearly coincide with the borders of the settlement of the Western and Eastern Slavs. Southern Slavs such as Serbs and Bulgarians, by the way, have a different haplogroup i2, i.e. they are Slavs by culture, and not by blood. But the Kyrgyz, Tajiks and part of the Uzbeks with the Afghan Hazaras have the same haplogroup r1a as we do. What a twist ? That is, there is every reason to believe that the ancestors of the Slavs came to Europe precisely from Central Asia. By the way, the native European haplogroups i6 and i1 are still preserved in a small number in Europe. The first is the Normans (Sweden, Norway and Denmark), and the second is the Bosnians, Croats and largely Serbs. Nationalists may not worry about blood for blood - it is the same with us, the only difference is in culture.
    And finally, if civilization does not expand, then it narrows. Personally, I don’t want to live in a small Moscow principality, but I want to live in a huge Russian empire - no matter the Soviet, capitalist or whatever. Because only in it can cosmodromes, huge plants, super bridges and nuclear cruisers be built. Only such a state can provide its citizens with real security, independence and the future. I can be proud of only such a state-owned person, born and raised in the Soviet empire. It is a fact. And the only thing left for the non-residents is to turn the tails of the bulls and look after the pigs. This is not our future. hi
    1. Rarog
      Rarog 1 May 2016 08: 06
      +1
      Quote: g1v2

      Well, what about blood, and so on. Purely for reference. The Slavs are characterized by the haplogroup r1a, the borders of its distribution in Europe clearly coincide with the borders of the settlement of the Western and Eastern Slavs. Southern Slavs such as Serbs and Bulgarians, by the way, have a different haplogroup i2, i.e. they are Slavs by culture, and not by blood. But the Kyrgyz, Tajiks and part of the Uzbeks with the Afghan Hazaras have the same haplogroup r1a as we do. What a twist ? That is, there is every reason to believe that the ancestors of the Slavs came to Europe precisely from Central Asia. By the way, the native European haplogroups i6 and i1 are still preserved in a small number in Europe. The first is the Normans (Sweden, Norway and Denmark), and the second is the Bosnians, Croats and largely Serbs. Nationalists may not worry about blood for blood - it is the same with us, the only difference is in culture.


      You are confusing Gender - R1a and the language group - Slavs. The Slavs are characterized by many haplogroups, just among the Western - mainly Poles and Eastern Slavs - Russians (Belarusians, Great Russians, Little Russians) are the most widely (50-55% of ethnic Poles and Russians) carriers of the Kin - R1a (Aryans) with subclade Z280 (and related), but the Slavs are not only Russians and Poles (even if we are the overwhelming majority). Yes, and who told you that R1a are the first representatives of the Slavs language group? Although with a high degree of probability this is exactly the case, there is no 100% proof yet. Maybe the Serbian I2 and I1 (haplogroups of "old Europe") were the founders of our common language group? By the way, among ethnic Russians, in addition to the main R1a (Aryans) with the subclade Z280 (and related), there are two more main haplogroups - these are I2 + I1 - the Balkan subclades and N1c with the South Baltic subclades (Balto-Slavic), not to be confused with N1c with Finno -Ugorsky subclades + many more minor haplogroups. By the way, R1a in our country (more precisely, its subclades) differs from R1a (subclades) of Central Asians, Indians, Iranians, etc. + mtDNA is also very different. Even if R1a Russians / Poles and R1a Indians / Tajiks had a common male ancestor many thousands of years ago, our “Moms” were completely different (mtDNA), hence the serious anthropological differences. In general, the equal sign between the haplogroup (DNA, by blood, as you put it) and the language group (directly language + culture) should not be put. How can you assess who is more Slavic by blood, Serbian or Russian? And you easily assert
      Southern Slavs such as Serbs and Bulgarians, by the way, have a different haplogroup i2, i.e. they are Slavs by culture, and not by blood.
      1. Rivares
        Rivares 2 May 2016 16: 53
        0
        Quote: Rarog
        not to be confused with N1c with Finno-Ugric subclades + many more minor haplogroups.

        Finnish is not a minor haplogroup. 20-25% is significant.
        1. Rarog
          Rarog 2 May 2016 17: 51
          0
          Quote: Rivares
          Quote: Rarog
          not to be confused with N1c with Finno-Ugric subclades + many more minor haplogroups.

          Finnish is not a minor haplogroup. 20-25% is significant.


          And if you read more carefully ?!

          By the way among ethnic Russians besides primary R1a (Arias) with subclade Z280 (and related) there are two more main haplogroups are exactly I2 + I1 - Balkan subclades and N1c with South Baltic subclades (Balto-Slavic), do not confuse with N1c with Finno-Ugric subclades + (plus sign means - in addition to the above) many more minor haplogroups.


          I will describe the fact that the top is a little different, maybe it will be more understandable.

          Ethnic Russians have three main haplogroups:
          1) R1a (Arias) with a subclade of Z280 and relatives - 50 +% of the total number of ethnic Russians who are citizens of the Russian Federation;
          2) I2 and I1 (Balkan haplogroups, DNA genealogy usually indicates together) - about 20% of the total number of ethnic Russians who are citizens of the Russian Federation;
          3) N1c (South Baltic / Balto-Slavic) - about 14% of the total number of ethnic Russians who are citizens of the Russian Federation
          + other haplogroups, smaller in comparison with the three main ones - minor.

          PS N1c have many different subclades, some characteristic of the Slavs and the Baltic states (Latvians and Lithuanians), that is, for the inhabitants of the southern coast of the Baltic Sea with the exception of the Estonians - they are representatives of the Finno-Ugric subclades, and others are characteristic of the Finno-Ugric - Suomi, Saami , Mari, the same Estonians, etc. Although Finno-Ugric N1c can also be found among ethnic Russians, and vice versa, among Finns the Baltic-Slavic N1c can be found.

          PPS This is the same as comparing R1a carriers such as Irish with the R1a and Tajik subclades characteristic of Ireland and the R1a subclades characteristic of them. Ethnic groups are completely different with different subclades, but at the same time both are related to R1a.
    2. Rarog
      Rarog 1 May 2016 08: 51
      +1
      Quote: g1v2
      The Slavs are characterized by the haplogroup r1a, the borders of its distribution in Europe clearly coincide with the borders of the settlement of the Western and Eastern Slavs.


      Among the Irish, and in general on the British Isles, there is R1a, in Germany this haplogroup is represented even more widely than on the islands, and, unlike the Irish, there are many "Slavic" subclades among the Germans, which is easily explained by the Germanization of the "Slavic" R1a. There is this haplogroup among the Scandinavians, only with other subclades. So, the western border of distribution R1a does not end with Poland and the Czech Republic.

      Quote: g1v2
      That is, there is every reason to believe that the ancestors of the Slavs came to Europe precisely from Central Asia.


      Or vice versa, there is every reason to believe that the male ancestor of modern Tajiks came from Europe, but he came to Europe from Altai, but many thousands of years before he went back to the South and East, and there is scientific evidence for this. You can see the works of Klesov and Rozhansky on the migration of the Arians, they well describe the direction of movement of the haplogroup R1a in time and space based on fossil DNA and the logic of which subclade is primary, which is secondary, etc.
  • Rink
    Rink April 30 2016 13: 39
    +22
    In my opinion, everything is quite simple and logical: we cooperate with friends, we impose sanctions with Russophobes. Economic pressure, it turns out, affects the brain very cleansing.

    In particularly urgent cases, it is necessary to include comprehensive measures: economic sanctions + use of international human rights law + involvement of UN human rights institutions + wide media coverage of violations of rights + sudden military exercises at the borders (if the borders are common) or an unexpected check of the base (if there are any).

    And even if something unexpectedly explodes there (a power line, or a gas pipeline, or something like that) because of which half a country will be left without Russian gas / light for a month or two (emphasize necessary), I think this is a completely accidental accident or repairs on the line will be fully adequately perceived by the initiators of Russophobia and the rest of the world community.

    Enough to clatter!
    What kind of circus is it so that the Baltic states and Tajiks spread rot ?!
    The answer should be such that they hold their breath when they see the Russian flag!
    1. INTER
      INTER April 30 2016 13: 51
      +4
      Good afternoon, dear! Here unfounded write that let's close the borders, send all Tajiks home, (although many work in good faith and are not the initiators of this law) i.e. solve the problem in this way. But, such a solution to the problem is similar to how a hedgehog wraps itself in a ball here and there. Well, they sent them all there, and here they are, well, they impoverished and what ?????? That's right, make a gift to mattresses who dream of sowing the seeds of radicalism in these lands, and you offer to plow, fertilize, and water. No friends is not an option !!! Need to influence leadership, and where is their vulnerability? That's right, power + money needs to be manipulated, and a simple hard worker who cleans up in your yard does not solve anything, does not solve anything. You need to put pressure on the leadership, and your indigenous not only Russians need to be protected wherever they are (worthy) !!!!
    2. Lens
      Lens April 30 2016 19: 22
      -3
      It is strange to read such a comment from a resident of Ukraine. Well, they imposed sanctions against Russia. Bent over? Reversed? Russia introduced sanctions against Ukraine. Bent over? And also ... How much stronger is the person who comes under the sanction begins to love the one who introduced them against him? Judging by your words, Russia will apply sanctions to the Tajiks and they will crawl on their knees to Moscow, wiping away tears of tenderness. Friends all the same!
    3. Lens
      Lens April 30 2016 19: 22
      -1
      It is strange to read such a comment from a resident of Ukraine. Well, they imposed sanctions against Russia. Bent over? Reversed? Russia introduced sanctions against Ukraine. Bent over? And also ... How much stronger is the person who comes under the sanction begins to love the one who introduced them against him? Judging by your words, Russia will apply sanctions to the Tajiks and they will crawl on their knees to Moscow, wiping away tears of tenderness. Friends all the same!
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  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir April 30 2016 15: 33
    +4
    Quote: Observer2014
    You'd better write how Tajiks in Russia became "their own". And how long it will last

    well, until you work in Tajikistan with this, you won’t do anything, and it’s not bad that they go to Russia to earn money, but that they come to behave like a herd, and the authorities look at it and are touched by it
  • atalef
    atalef April 30 2016 15: 57
    +16
    Quote: Observer2014
    How Russians became strangers in Tajikistan and what to do about it "
    You'd better write how Tajiks in Russia became "theirs"

    This is really an interesting question.
    Tajikistan is an absolutely terrorist regime, with golden statues and a full cult of personality.
    What to do with it ? There is nothing to be done, since he can do everything at home that his soul wants.
    The only thing that can be done is to create a real program for the reception of the Russian population of this republic.
    Everyone who wants to leave should receive the help of their homeland.
    The state should inform the Tajik authorities that in case of violation of the rights of Russians in Tajikistan and obstruction to exit --- all Tajik citizens working in Russia will be sent home.
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      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir April 30 2016 18: 06
        0
        Quote: Nagan
        Everything is simple - a suitcase, a station, Russia. And it would not be bad to look at the experience of Israel in receiving returnees and apply it

        Israeli population 8
        according to average estimates, outside the Russian Federation after the collapse of 20 million
        so what experience do you want to apply?
        1. atalef
          atalef April 30 2016 19: 58
          +10
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          Israeli population 8

          Well, 25 years ago it was 5 million, and you think it is easier for 5 million people to accept 1 million returnees in 5 years than 160 million. But Russia is not 20, but much less?
          I'm not talking about the size of a country with a deficit of everything from water to just square and war to boot?

          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          so what experience do you want to apply?

          Israeli is the most wonderful where it says
          Any Jew, a son of a Jew and a grandson of a Jew - HAS the right to come to the country and obtain citizenship (in a place with his family) on the first day of arrival.
          Has the right to . dot.
          Without quotas, permits and exams.
          Right. And the state is obliged to accept you, give you a lift, learn the language, give free medical insurance, and pensioners retire.
          Disabled WWII - military pension of the state of Israel
          Only on the basis that your grandfather was a Jew. (I'm talking about mixed families) where the Jews in general are only in the 3rd generation.
          Moreover, all these privileges are also given to family members, who often have nothing to do with Jews.
          If this is a bad example, give the best.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir April 30 2016 20: 04
            +3
            Quote: atalef
            Well, 25 years ago it was 5 million, and you think it is easier for 5 million people to accept 1 million returnees in 5 years than 160 million. But Russia is not 20, but much less?
            I'm not talking about the size of a country with a deficit of everything from water to just square and war to boot?

            such comparisons are killing me, 20 million need to be populated somewhere, employed, organized studies, etc. sorry this is many times more difficult than doing the same for 1 million
            Quote: atalef
            Israeli is the most wonderful where it says
            Any Jew, a son of a Jew and a grandson of a Jew - HAS the right to come to the country and obtain citizenship (in a place with his family) on the first day of arrival.

            Quote: atalef
            Israeli is the most wonderful where it says
            Any Jew, a son of a Jew and a grandson of a Jew - HAS the right to come to the country and obtain citizenship (in a place with his family) on the first day of arrival.

            oh, enough of these Jewish hopping, tired of trying to transfer the principle of sewing atelier management to a sewing factory
            1. atalef
              atalef April 30 2016 20: 11
              +6
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              such comparisons beats me, 20 million need to be populated somewhere, employed, organized studies, etc. sorry this is many times more difficult than doing the same for 1 million

              Well, firstly, 20 million doesn’t go to you, this time, and secondly, you think that an increase of 20% of the population over 5 years does not need to be resettled, employed, treated, and taught to children. Many times more difficult? Compare the power of Israel and Russia
              Israel could.
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              oh, enough of these Jewish hopping, tired of trying to transfer the principle of sewing atelier management to a sewing factory

              Your business.
              If you think that Russians cannot be accepted only because there is nowhere to arrange and resettle them (there is probably not enough land).
              Only 20% of the population for 160 million Russia is 32 million people.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir April 30 2016 21: 34
                -2
                Quote: atalef
                Well, firstly, 20 million is not going to you

                because they don’t go, that it’s not realistic to accept, besides the question was posed that they say that everyone needs to be accepted
                Quote: atalef
                no need to resettle, employ, treat, teach children. Many times more difficult? Compare the power of Israel and Russia
                Israel could.

                once again stop comparing the workshop with the factory
                1. atalef
                  atalef April 30 2016 22: 06
                  +6
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  because they don’t go, it’s not realistic to accept

                  Neither go because you do not accept
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Roma of that question was posed that they say everyone needs to be accepted

                  It doesn’t happen that everyone goes right away, but you need to give this opportunity - again, if a compatriot is important for Russia
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  once again stop comparing the workshop with the factory

                  Strange, do you think it turns out that the workshop will cope, and the plant will be bent?
                  And in general, move away from allegories.
                  Germany took almost 2 million Germans in 8 years, Greece did not remember how many hundreds of thousands, Israel took 1 million in 5 years.
                  More than 10 million Gaster arrived in Russia, but compatriots cannot be accepted, shame.
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir April 30 2016 22: 15
                    -2
                    Quote: atalef
                    Neither go because you do not accept

                    money for fish again, by the way I came
                    Quote: atalef
                    Strange, do you think it turns out that the workshop will cope, and the plant will be bent?

                    if the plant works according to the workshop principle, it will surely bend, which has been successfully proved by liberal economists
                    1. atalef
                      atalef April 30 2016 22: 34
                      0
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      money for fish again, by the way I came

                      Why don’t you give it to others?
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      if the plant works according to the workshop principle, it will surely bend, which has been successfully proved by liberal economists

                      Strange, but somehow our workshop has not yet bent.
                    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 1 May 2016 07: 39
                      0
                      Quote: atalef
                      Strange, but somehow our workshop has not yet bent.

                      Does your workshop work on the principle of a factory?
              2. Victor Demchenko
                Victor Demchenko 1 May 2016 07: 45
                +4
                Volodya do not argue! in this particular case, you are NOT RIGHT! I don’t know how it is now, but a year ago in order to obtain Russian citizenship you had to rub your knees down, and it costs a lot of money.
                and one more thing: why, in the same Israel, it was the state that took upon itself ALL the worries of providing for the new arrivals, precisely those who WANT to settle in the country CONSTANTLY, and we have such a cool attitude only to the so-called "refugees"? I understand when children, old people and women run away from the war, but I do not understand men at the age of 25-30, healthy as bulls, who came here and declared that you met badly, little money and expensive vodka ...
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 1 May 2016 09: 37
                  0
                  Quote: Viktor Demchenko
                  I don’t know how it is now, but a year ago in order to obtain citizenship of the Russian Federation it was necessary to wipe feet to knees, and it costs a lot of money.

                  I got citizenship six years ago, I didn’t pay money, I didn’t erase my legs
                  and I’m right, the emphasis should not be on resettlement, but on creating a comfortable Russian living where they lived, in which case they will promote the Russian world
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 1 May 2016 09: 57
                    -1
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    and I’m right, the emphasis should not be on resettlement, but on creating a comfortable Russian living where they lived, in which case they will promote the Russian world

                    What kind of creature is the "Russian world" and where are you going to promote it?
                    Millions of Russian emigrants after the revolution disappeared around the world and sunk into oblivion. They are no longer in Paris, nor in Harbin and Shanghai, nor in Istanbul. Accuse them of dislike for all Russian language will not turn. They printed their newspapers, they had respect for religion, they had their own community, but even this did not help them. They assimilated in just 2 generations. Alas, the same fate awaits the Russians now living in the USA, Germany, Tajikistan and other countries. request
                  2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 1 May 2016 10: 02
                    0
                    Quote: Professor
                    Millions of Russian emigrants after the revolution disappeared around the world and sunk into oblivion

                    rare stupidity
                  3. Professor
                    Professor 1 May 2016 10: 13
                    +1
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    rare stupidity

                    Medical fact. There is no Russian quarter in Shanghai. There is none in Istanbul. Not even in Paris. I visit these three cities periodically and I know what I'm writing about. Where did millions of Russians go? They became French, Bulgarians or Americans. I had to meet their descendants. Not later than in October, in Shipka, we talked with the grandson of the white guard who served at Wrangel. This Bulgarian proudly speaks of Russian roots, but he himself is not Russian, but Bulgarian. Previously, he worked with the son of a Russian emigrant who fled to Mexico, and from there to the United States. He did not understand Russian well, but practically did not speak. And this is only the second generation. His children don’t speak Russian, but I’ll be quiet about my grandchildren. This is se la vi. hi
        2. Victor Demchenko
          Victor Demchenko 1 May 2016 07: 38
          +4
          Sasha, hi! I love to read your comments, though I am writing for the first time.
          very caustic and not an eyebrow, but precisely in the eye, especially when you mentioned the right of any Jew, even in the third generation, to citizenship on the day of arrival!
          This is precisely what the state cares about "its own people who are not abandoned!" good hi
      2. Kaiten
        Kaiten April 30 2016 22: 44
        0
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        oh, enough of these Jewish hopping, tired of trying to transfer the principle of sewing atelier management to a sewing factory

        And is it much more progressive to increase your own population at the expense of migrants from the south? Look how many Central Asian migrants you have moved over the past 20 years, their number is quite comparable to the number of potential Russian migrants. You just do not have a feeling of compassion for your fellow tribesmen.
        1. Viktor2410
          Viktor2410 2 May 2016 15: 43
          +2
          Our government does not have a feeling of compassion for its fellow tribesmen, but they accept all kinds of boxers and overseas actors and give Russian citizenship, if only they would kiss the left and right buttocks instead of bread and salt.
          1. AK64
            AK64 2 May 2016 16: 08
            +2
            That our government does not have compassion for to their fellow tribesmen,


            I probably have one for ITS.
            But to the Russians - no.
            Mean what? But to mean simply: to mean, the Russians are not OWN to them.
            That's all.

            Even in the constitution of the Russian Federation it is written that Russian houses are not the owners - the owners in the Russian Federation are unknown "peoples"
      3. Haloperidol
        Haloperidol 2 May 2016 07: 38
        +4
        Excuse me, why do Tajiks work nowhere in Russia? Send them home and take the Russians in their place. And it is not necessary to write that the Russians will not work. It has long been known that the reception of gaster is a purely corrupt scheme, when a gaster signs for one amount and receives another, and the difference is the officials who have a place in the felling, under escort. Russians come, so their They don't hire them, like, there are no jobs, and instead of Russians, they take on newcomers to work, to cut funds, including budget funds. Effective managers got stolen, '' it's time to shoot crooks, like in China.
    2. marshes
      marshes April 30 2016 20: 11
      +3
      Quote: atalef
      Any Jew, a son of a Jew and a grandson of a Jew - HAS the right to come to the country and obtain citizenship (in a place with his family) on the first day of arrival.

      Does the same niece have free entry? laughing Do you seem to have a law on possible asylum if relatives are Jews? laughing
      1. atalef
        atalef April 30 2016 20: 22
        +5
        Quote: marshes
        Does the same niece have free entry?

        Hitler destroyed people with 1/8 Jewish blood, when the law on return was written, it was declared unequivocally. A person whom the Nazis could shoot as a Jew (even if he has only a grandfather a Jew - has the right to repatriation. Why a grandfather? Because Jews have a nationality transmitted by mother and the situation is only a grandmother Jewish - can not be automatic machine her children are the same Jews.)
        Quote: marshes
        Do you seem to have a law on possible asylum if relatives are Jews?

        In that case . if your wife / husband is neither Jewish and he has only one parent left and there is no one to take care of him (no brothers and sisters), then he also has the right to come.
        1. marshes
          marshes April 30 2016 20: 43
          +1
          Quote: atalef
          In that case . if your wife / husband is neither Jewish and he has only one parent left and there is no one to take care of him (no brothers and sisters), then he also has the right to come.

          I remembered that you seem to have a law from 65 years.
          And so in the next winter vacation he did not refuse to come to rest in Israel.
          This is a matter of principle, the visa regime. But you did the same to the Russians and Belarusians, Ukrainians without a visa. We did the same without a visa for up to 15 days to a number of states, including Israel. laughing In Ashdot, at least tomorrow laughing Than not a Jew laughing by the way there is a street RAGOZIN, not in honor of this ... laughing
          1. atalef
            atalef April 30 2016 20: 47
            +2
            Quote: marshes
            I remembered that you seem to have a law from 65

            which one ?
            Quote: marshes
            And so in the next winter vacation did not refuse to come to rest in Israel

            Welcom
            Quote: marshes
            It’s a matter of principle, a visa regime. You did the same to the Russians and Belarusians, Ukrainians without a visa

            This is not for me (with questions).
            Quote: marshes
            In Ashdot, yes even tomorrow Why not a Jew by the way there is a street RAGOZIN, not in honor of this

            So Sokolov - the same is.
            1. marshes
              marshes April 30 2016 21: 03
              +1
              Quote: atalef
              which one ?

              Something about the next of kin, it was my mother-in-law's brother told me. A normal aunt by the way ... All Kazakhstan recalls, det. She is from a family of repressed Polish officers, she was lucky but her children. Parents only from photographs.
              Damn, I sympathize purely ... I saw the photo album myself ... hard ...
              Quote: atalef
              This is not for me (with questions).

              Your embassy has already organized a tour for Kazakhstanis. laughing
              Quote: atalef
              So Sokolov - the same is.

              Do you have Ivanovs?
              1. atalef
                atalef April 30 2016 22: 08
                +2
                Quote: marshes
                Do you have Ivanovs?

                Neither met. laughing
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  • kuz363
    kuz363 April 30 2016 20: 37
    0
    nationality in Israel is determined by the maternal side and the grandfather or son has nothing to do with it. Therefore, the father or grandfather is Jewish - there is no right to Israeli citizenship.
    1. atalef
      atalef April 30 2016 20: 42
      +4
      Quote: kuz363
      Therefore, the father or grandfather is Jewish - there is no right to Israeli citizenship.

      Tell tales to another
      During the years the National Socialists were in power in Germany, the Nuremberg Laws discriminated against Jews and people of mixed origin. According to these laws, a person was discriminated against if he had at least 1/4 of Jewish blood (that is, his grandparents were Jews). Subsequently, the Nazi state switched to the direct extermination of Jews.

      The State of Israel has defined itself, among other things, as a refuge for every person who is persecuted because of its Jewish origin. And, adopting a law on the right of Jews to return to their historical homeland (repatriation), it granted this right to anyone who could potentially fall under German discrimination laws. As a result, now any person, euwhether he had at least one (one) of his grandparents was Jewish, as well as his spousecan be repatriated to Israel and automatically apply for Israeli citizenship.

      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD_%D0%BE_%D0%B2%D0%BE
      %D0%B7%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%89%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B8_(%D0%98%D0%B7%D1%80%D0%B0
      %D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C)
    2. marshes
      marshes April 30 2016 21: 05
      +4
      Quote: kuz363
      nationality in Israel is determined by the maternal side and the grandfather or son has nothing to do with it. Therefore, the father or grandfather is Jewish - there is no right to Israeli citizenship.

      By mother, I have four potential Israeli citizens., Plus MAMAN. laughing And the older Maman is already laughing
      1. atalef
        atalef April 30 2016 22: 02
        +4
        Quote: marshes
        Quote: kuz363
        nationality in Israel is determined by the maternal side and the grandfather or son has nothing to do with it. Therefore, the father or grandfather is Jewish - there is no right to Israeli citizenship.

        By mother, I have four potential Israeli citizens., Plus MAMAN. laughing And the older Maman is already laughing

        Shalom hi
        1. marshes
          marshes April 30 2016 22: 08
          +1
          Quote: atalef
          Shalom

          I didn’t say so a little, it’s with my older brother for his wife. I have the other thing, which I oppressed 70 years ago, I would say.
          On open visas, there is only Germany. I traveled to the USA at 08, I have already changed my passport.
          Holidays on your nose until 11 do not work, that a little lied that "tomorrow".
          Would do like others, wrapping up at the airport would be great.
    3. igor67
      igor67 April 30 2016 21: 46
      +5
      Quote: kuz363
      nationality in Israel is determined by the maternal side and the grandfather or son has nothing to do with it. Therefore, the father or grandfather is Jewish - there is no right to Israeli citizenship.

      Do not blame stupidity, my mother is Ukrainian, my father is Jewish, my wife is Russian, and we all live in Israel, and my father-in-law is Russian, since he was alone, he came to us and received citizenship and pension, without learning Hebrew
  • Weyland
    Weyland April 30 2016 22: 16
    +5
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    the population of Israel is 8 people; according to average estimates, outside the Russian Federation 388 million remain after the collapse.


    And if you calculate the percentage? In Israel, at least 25% of the population is Olim, and Russia would have to accept an additional 15%. And if it weren’t for the meanest and e-mail of EBN am so that in the 9th circle he would not have to resettle most of them anywhere - Narva, the whole east of Ukraine (with Crimea, essno) and the north of Kazakhstan could be legally left as part of the Russian Federation - simply by requiring a referendum in each region, how brazen in Ulster did!
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 1 May 2016 07: 40
      0
      money, factories of the apartment you will be the same percentage
  • Weyland
    Weyland April 30 2016 22: 16
    +1
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    the population of Israel is 8 people; according to average estimates, outside the Russian Federation 388 million remain after the collapse.


    And if you calculate the percentage? In Israel, at least 25% of the population is Olim, and Russia would have to accept an additional 15%. And if it weren’t for the meanest and e-mail of EBN am so that in the 9th circle he would not have to resettle most of them anywhere - Narva, the whole east of Ukraine (with Crimea, essno) and the north of Kazakhstan could be legally left as part of the Russian Federation - simply by requiring a referendum in each region, how brazen in Ulster did!
  • Samurai3X
    Samurai3X April 30 2016 17: 07
    +8
    Here you need to understand that Tajiks understand only power. During the Soviet Union, we didn’t really think about why our dear folk friends are so calm, but in 90 they understood. They felt that it was impossible to frolic. Therefore, smiles, friendship of peoples, etc.
    As soon as the stranglehold diminished, the peoples immediately showed their bright colors. Just look back. Tajikistan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, etc. Everywhere blossoms smells of nationalism. But you can go to work and demand non-financial money for renting spaceports ...
    We had to deal with them, like the French with the Africans. Linguistic and cultural annexation. Even after gaining independence, they speak almost pure French, aspire to France and try to become citizens of France.
  • Ajevgenij
    Ajevgenij April 30 2016 18: 16
    +9
    I absolutely support. Ideally, there should be a real, rather than a sham-bureaucratic program to help resettle Russians from abroad. I personally ran into bureaucrats and all the problems with paperwork. I’ve been trying to arrange it since 2009, but it’s still there.
  • Dam
    Dam April 30 2016 18: 54
    +5
    Isn't it time for Rakhmonov to have a heart attack? The Russians will live freely only when every indigenous kinglet is afraid to fall out of favor before ussachka
  • the most important
    the most important April 30 2016 20: 21
    +6
    Quote: Observer2014
    And from Tajikistan we need a state program to evacuate Russian families to Russia!

    Another spit in Russia ... And then there will be no reaction. You can go further ... Erdogan has "tomatoes" in place ... here are others and are rude ... Actually, you need to have 3-4 "presidents" in reserve for each country and in case of such impudence carry out a regime change. You never need to suck with anyone! Then they will love them tenderly and selflessly ... And the Foreign Ministry will not notice it, how sad it is ...
  • Andrey Petrov47
    Andrey Petrov47 2 May 2016 01: 34
    +3
    In connection with the ban of Russian names in Tajikistan, now they themselves need to write the word Churka instead of their middle name and surname ...
    And let Russia on visas. Then Tajikistan will become the birthplace of chocks alone.
  • max702
    max702 2 May 2016 12: 05
    +2
    [i] So, after the genocide in the nineties, which we actually forgot and forgave,[/ I]
    But this topic should be considered in more detail, and very carefully .. For there are a darkness of questions to ALL former 14 republics of the USSR And the most important thing is to draw the appropriate conclusions .. You look then and there will be no liberal jokes like "[i] if Russia is so good why no one is friends with it, and Russians are humiliated everywhere and are not put on anything .. [/ i]"
  • Agent_017
    Agent_017 3 May 2016 19: 58
    +1
    Yes, eye-by-eye is necessary, otherwise it’s impossible to print already. By sending back to the homeland and sending a seal on the priest, the stigma so that they do not come back .. They drove the Russians out and came to the Russians themselves ... Super impudence .. Wake Stalin, he immediately cyclops eye on the ass pull ...
  • DIVAN SOLDIER
    DIVAN SOLDIER April 30 2016 12: 32
    +1
    And why are Rakhimov and Rakhmonov not giving up Russian endings ????
    1. Aleksandr1959
      Aleksandr1959 April 30 2016 12: 46
      +20
      And why are Rakhimov and Rakhmonov not giving up Russian endings ????

      Rakhmonov is no longer Rakhmonov, but Rakhmon, and for several years now.
      As for the attitude to the Russians, a friend had hardly left Dushanbe since the 90s. They threw an apartment, hired a freight car for two families, and so they got to Russia. In Akhtubinsk they bought a small house in the private sector. No help, of course, was then. They said that if they still pulled away, they would have killed.
      1. avt
        avt April 30 2016 14: 11
        +7
        Quote: Aleksandr1959
        Rakhmonov is no longer Rakhmonov, but Rakhmon, and for several years now.

        That's it . So Roman would have to issue a warning on behalf of Rakhmon - Offending the president’s captain? laughing But it’s not even about how he gathered his ... citizens to name. In the end, this is their family business, and it seems that Rakhimov has already included the back one. The thing here is sa-a-a-a-avsem in another - Rakhmon and his shobla lost their fear, the same one from the civil war of its last, when they brutally plundered hundreds of a couple thousand of them, and after the acquisition of the dough from drugs smuggled from smuggling, they also lost their scent - they chase our units from the places of constant cantonment, the Aini aerodrome were not given over to the Air Force base, here the Franks for a separate salvage - to the heir to the captain. And will the same voyage francs on the occasion of this shobla rest there? Yes, and
        Another question is whether the Russians from the 201st brigade will save your skin, as they once saved Nagiyev. Such a good question.
        And the fact that it’s hot there is understandable to anyone in Moscow, but not to Rakhmon in Dushanbe. Iskandemakedoni a descendant who really thinks that in the event of what he will dump as Akaev in the Moscow region, or as Bakiev in Minsk? Oh well....
        1. aleshka
          aleshka 2 May 2016 05: 00
          +2
          only Russians in 201 are almost gone!
    2. CORNET
      CORNET April 30 2016 12: 53
      +9
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      And why are Rakhimov and Rakhmonov not giving up Russian endings ????

      a site has appeared on the network that converts surnames in the Tajik manner. The authors of the project called it the “Tajikizer”! (http://www.currenttime.tv/fullinfographics/infographics/name-tajikizer/27706418.

      html)
      Suddenly someone comes in handy .. laughing laughing
      1. AleksPol
        AleksPol April 30 2016 15: 47
        0
        Thank you, have fun lol
      2. Archon
        Archon 2 May 2016 13: 22
        0
        Magically, my surname became original
    3. Dryuya2
      Dryuya2 April 30 2016 13: 23
      +11
      Tajikistan, Tajikistan, Tajikistan - all the radio stations have already covered this topic, not to mention the Internet resources.
      a little positive for the holiday yes
      Posted on: 24 Apr 2016
      One of the most beautiful Christian churches in southern Russia opened in Chechnya
  • cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 30 2016 12: 34
    +1
    I completely agree with the author. soldier
    1. the finish
      the finish April 30 2016 13: 06
      -2
      The author wrote without understanding, nonsense. As I understand it, no one forces Russians to change their first names, surnames, this applies only to ethnic Tajiks with endings in s. Maybe there are several yans living there and they will also be converted to Gasparchon? They received the surnames on the sov during the Sovietization, so they decided to change it, and this is a personal matter for everyone.
      1. dali
        dali April 30 2016 14: 05
        +4
        Quote: finish
        The author wrote without understanding - rubbish

        And now we read that they answered in the Ministry of Justice of Tajikistan:
        "There is no official ban on Russian endings "ov-ova" or "ovich-ovna" yet"- said Sirojzoda. According to her, the changes so far concern children whose parents apply to the registry office to obtain birth certificates."Adult citizens of the country, bearing surnames and patronymics with Russian endings, can choose to change them in a national way or not ", - said Sirojzoda. According to her, when changing surnames, you will have to change not only your passport, but also all other documents - birth certificate, diploma, marriage certificate, so everyone has their own choice in this matter.
        1) What does it mean ANOTHER ?! belay
        2) And the children ?! belay

        "The right of national minorities to a name in the Republic of Tajikistan is guaranteed in accordance with their national traditions. Representatives of national minorities who are citizens of the Republic of Tajikistan, at their discretion, can assign names to their children in accordance with the Register of Tajik National Names or their national traditions. The procedure for writing the surname, name and patronymic of citizens representing national minorities is carried out in accordance with the spelling rules of the corresponding language".
        Those. Ivanov is Ivanzod? belay Well you and the finish, 100% finish
        1. dali
          dali April 30 2016 14: 27
          +8
          Quote: Dali
          carried out in accordance with the spelling rules of the corresponding language

          Corresponding to what? And who will determine this correspondence?

          Well, in Tajikistan can only a Tajik name be chosen ?! And the Uzbek can be ?! What about Anglo-Saxon?

          Or can we do the same in Russia? So you are the first liberals to howl so much, it will stink that you can’t breathe !!!

          And if dad and mom are of different nationalities, then how ?! belay

          So this govnosakon is, and is directed, naturally, against Russia first of all !!!
          1. the finish
            the finish April 30 2016 14: 54
            +1
            What difference does it make to someone? What is the surname of a Tajik in Tajikistan? They clarified that national minorities leave in accordance with their traditions or as they want (they can simply be numbers or signs like some in Europe).
        2. the finish
          the finish April 30 2016 14: 48
          0
          And what are you adding your speculation here? Ivanov is Ivanzod? And where in my own reprint I saw a discrepancy to what I said. Well, you and 100% Dolia’s sheep ...
        3. fif21
          fif21 April 30 2016 15: 08
          0
          Quote: Dali
          Those. Ivanov is Ivanzod?

          Ivanzon laughing
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      2. avt
        avt April 30 2016 14: 38
        +1
        Quote: finish
        They received the surnames on the sov during the Sovietization and decided to change it, and this is a personal matter for everyone.

        And here it is! Teach the materiel - there is a law there that was enacted on this topic, which is binding, it used to be, well, when the chairman of the collective farm Rakhmonov finally felt like a descendant of Iskender Makedoni Rakhmon and decided to break with the colonial past, well, go back and fall to Iskendermakedon the source, and now the register of names of physical entities in the spirit of the ancient Iskendermakedoni tradition, the captain, is available.
        1. the finish
          the finish April 30 2016 14: 50
          +1
          You want to say that Tajiks have historically last names on s?
        2. the finish
          the finish April 30 2016 15: 02
          -1
          About a private matter did not mean a Tajik.
      3. vlad-58
        vlad-58 April 30 2016 17: 26
        +1
        Quote: finish
        no one forces Russians to change their first names, surnames, this only applies to ethnic Tajiks with endings in s. Maybe there are several yans living there and they will also be converted to Gasparchon? They received the surnames on the sov during the Sovietization, so they decided to change it, and this is a personal matter for everyone.

        ... It's just "bye"!
        Down and Out trouble started!...
  • cniza
    cniza April 30 2016 12: 35
    +11
    It seems they refuted this information after Russia said it would introduce a visa regime.
    1. dali
      dali April 30 2016 14: 49
      +2
      Quote: cniza
      It seems they refuted this information after Russia said it would introduce a visa regime.

      We must carefully read this refutation ...
  • Vladimirets
    Vladimirets April 30 2016 12: 35
    +17
    "The prohibition of Russian customs abroad, the prohibition of the language, the fight against everything Russian."

    The trend, by the way, is global. It feels like a single project.
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER April 30 2016 12: 37
      +12
      No why, the Evgei, on the contrary, are encrypted under the "goose patriots".
      1. Rivares
        Rivares 2 May 2016 17: 06
        +2
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        No why, the Evgei, on the contrary, are encrypted under the "goose patriots".

        If it would be beneficial for the SS men to encrypt, they would mow under them as well))
        Jewish wisdom however)))
    2. cniza
      cniza April 30 2016 12: 37
      +10
      Quote: Vladimirets
      "The prohibition of Russian customs abroad, the prohibition of the language, the fight against everything Russian."

      The trend, by the way, is global. It feels like a single project.


      One conductor and leader.
  • pts-m
    pts-m April 30 2016 12: 40
    -3
    Those who wanted to topple over from the middle Asian republics have already blown them away. Only patriots remain, and patriots ... at least s, even he ... no difference. No need to impose all responsibility on Russia for those who care.
    1. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution April 30 2016 13: 35
      +10
      Quote: PTS-m
      Those who wanted to topple over from the middle Asian republics have already blown them away. Only patriots remain, and patriots ... at least s, even he ... no difference. No need to impose all responsibility on Russia for those who care.

      Forgot about those who do not have the opportunity to leave, well, in addition, this is overshadowed by the procedure for obtaining citizenship.
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  • iouris
    iouris April 30 2016 12: 44
    +7
    I don't understand why to whip up the atmosphere. If something threatens the Russians, it is necessary to create conditions for their resettlement in the Russian Federation. As for the Russian language, go outside and read the signs with the names of the institutions, listen to your politicians, who use the word "implementation".
  • sanja.grw
    sanja.grw April 30 2016 12: 45
    +4
    .Only patriots remained, and patriots ... at least s, at least he ... no difference.

    Do not do it this way
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir April 30 2016 12: 47
    +21
    Or maybe stop complaining about the Ukrainians. Balts, Central Asians, Caucasians. What have high officials of Russia done to make Russia respected throughout the world? Didn’t the Kremlin admit that the NKVD allegedly shot the Poles, although this is a Goebbels lie, but the Poles are now spitting in our direction. Hasn't the Kremlin rushed to Muslim Russia, stood next to Erdogan at the opening of another mosque? And now we are enemies of the Turks. Why the Kremlin did not get involved in the Kiev showdown, because this is our land, but for some reason they climbed into Syria. Do you see Palmyra they will restore, at the expense of Russian villages? If the same Tajiks are masters on Russian soil, so what should we be offended? Is it not from a high place that it was stated that he only thinks that Russia is for the Russians.
    If our power, we ourselves do not respect ourselves, then who will respect us?
  • CORNET
    CORNET April 30 2016 12: 50
    +28
    A good lesson was given to us by the "brothers" in the 90s and especially now .... And it is NOT possible to keep silent about it! Again they are trying to silence us with "tolerance". Enough for it, it's time to call everything by its proper names!
    1. iouris
      iouris 1 May 2016 17: 45
      -5
      The Russians did not go to Central Asia to colonize or help. More often they fled there from reprisals, like my wife's great-grandfather, who was almost shot as a "gold digger". For the events of 1990, say thanks to Gorbachev and his Politburo, which had the goal of destroying the country in order to bury developed socialism and begin the construction of wild capitalism. Capitalism begins with initial capitalist accumulation. This is how it happened in Dushanbe. In the Russian Federation, taking away from the people and appropriating property took place using more subtle methods. However, in the "dashing 90s" the Russians were still smashing, starving and destroying the Russians.
      The Russian Federation did not express a desire to recreate the USSR, so the local presidents themselves will decide who to join: whether it is the United States, China, Iran, Turkey. And what is your project for these young states?
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 2 May 2016 13: 51
        0
        iouris
        The Russian Federation did not express a desire to recreate the USSR, so the local presidents themselves will decide who to join: whether it is the United States, China, Iran, Turkey. And what is your project for these young states?
        In geopolitics, your logic is not a nation, but only one national ethnos — namely, first of all, only rural people of the country who have no place in their heads for cities and urban residents. And historically, it is only with the advent of cities and urban residents on the territory of ethnic groups that multinational economic relations between regions appear and such a political structure as the state, including multinationals, develops.
        Your logic is not the logic of a statesman, but NEDOstate. Those. You think in terms of a villager - parochial - which does not have the categories of geopolitics. You DO NOT think big - in terms of the development of the whole country. Unfortunately, this is a special psychological pattern of thinking of rural residents, whose life in nature is economically self-sufficient. (A similar NEDO-state level of thinking is demonstrated today by fascist national minorities of Western Ukraine, from the rural population, who impose their ethnically NEDO-civilized geopolitical level of culture on the other peoples of the country and consider themselves infallible in this matter, while destroying Ukraine under external control.)
        Alas, your logic from a geopolitical point of view betrays you the truth that you live in a multinational NON-state, the level of which regresses compared with the time you entered the USSR. Your post-Soviet state has not developed geopolitically and your people are lagging behind the civilizational development of other peoples and countries.
        Therefore, your people are easy to buy consumer. And this venality sounds personally in your words!
        The Russian Federation did not express a desire to recreate the USSR, so the local presidents themselves will decide who to join: whether it is the United States, China, Iran, Turkey. And what is your project for these young states?
        Firstly, projects were proposed. And secondly, what projects are you personally interested in? Free life like in the EU for Ukrainians? Or something different? Tell me what exactly and how far it will be geopolitically fair?
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 April 30 2016 12: 51
    +9
    By the way about the birds. Yesterday, in honor of this "event", I promised to cut off the light in the cabins for these "comrades". They cut off, by lunchtime they began to whine. We figured out that there were Uzbeks laughing One ... you need to do reconnection of the line. Let them sit without light until night bully
  • dali
    dali April 30 2016 12: 52
    +5
    Introduce a visa regime. And to calculate, and what to take from them, how to recoup the costs if you put a 100% pro-Russian president with a pro-Russian team for the place of this Rakhmon.
  • marshes
    marshes April 30 2016 12: 52
    +8
    Here the Tajiks were "guilty" and decided to change the endings of their surnames and patronymics. smile It’s strange, but this will not affect the Russians living in Tajikistan.
    The media has done its job, now you can put pressure on Tajiks in a particular issue.
    In Kazakhstan, for a long time who wanted to change the endings of their patronymics or last names at will. An example is the son of Togo-ULA, the daughter of Togo-KYZY. Well, the names of graduations were removed from the type-s, ev.
    Here another problem is drawn. The problem of redoing documents, identity, real estate, enterprises. And this is a lot of money. So Rahmon decided to cut money from his citizens.
    1. Rivares
      Rivares 2 May 2016 17: 10
      +2
      Quote: marshes
      An example is the son of Togo-ULA, the daughter of Togo-KYZY. Well, the last names were removed from the surnames, type.

      And if tomorrow the pro-Russian government sits there, they will run to massively change their names back.
      If Chinese then break into Chinese endings to change)))
  • Yak28
    Yak28 April 30 2016 12: 54
    +14
    Quote: Observer2014
    You'd better write how Tajiks in Russia became "theirs"

    I’ll tell you, thanks to the policy of the Russian leadership from the 90s to this day, the whole rabble from the republics of the USSR began to be launched into the country, after which an unclean employer fell in love with migrants who can be paid less than the indigenous population, not have to pay sick leave, and so on, the police are also it came to hand they began to have not frail profits from markets, and other retail outlets, taxi drivers, and so on. Now a large number of Uzbeks, Tajiks come to Moscow with Russian passports (I don’t know where they buy them) Migrants try to give birth to as many children as possible on the territory of the Russian Federation, as they will automatically become Russians. Uzbeks working in the housing and communal services sector go to the polls and vote for whom the bosses will say. But imagine if someone heads these masses, then you can turn the mountains. There are various Diasporas that protect and cover their citizens, but there is no Russian diaspora.
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    2. RUSS
      RUSS April 30 2016 13: 21
      +4
      Quote: Yak28
      By the way, in Moscow there are various diasporas that protect and cover their citizens, but there is no Russian diaspora.

      Diaspora (Greek διασπορά, “scattering”) - part of the people (ethnic group), living outside their country of origin, forming a cohesive and stable ethnic group in the country of residence, and having social institutions to maintain and develop their identity and community.

      Based on this, by definition, Russians cannot have a diaspora in Moscow.
      1. Yak28
        Yak28 April 30 2016 13: 29
        +10
        It seems to me that diasporas are semi-criminal organizations that have long been time to ban
      2. iouris
        iouris 1 May 2016 17: 48
        0
        Do you propose to come to terms with the fact that the Russians are a diaspora? Then what is it about? And where do Russians compactly live and have their own state?
    3. sir_obs
      sir_obs April 30 2016 13: 43
      +7
      The Russian diaspora is called the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, they only need to correctly set the task.
    4. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 April 30 2016 15: 56
      +2
      "to give birth on the territory of the Russian Federation, since they will automatically become Russians." Why are you writing this without knowing our legislation? In our country, the right of the ground does not work and there is no automatic granting of citizenship to the children of foreigners.
      1. Weyland
        Weyland 1 May 2016 11: 41
        +1
        Quote: Sergej1972
        Our soil right is not valid


        ICHS, blood right too - in general, the law on citizenship "we have the most vile and meanest in the world! am
        Let all those who voted for these laws fail in hell! In the Duma, no party except the Liberal Democratic Party hi , does nothing to facilitate the repatriation of Russians, loyal and sold and-o-d-o-th EBN, so that in the 9th circle it was cooler than absolute zero! am
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 1 May 2016 13: 10
          0
          Quote: Weyland
          In the Duma, no party except the Liberal Democratic Party does anything to facilitate the repatriation of Russians, devotees and sold

          Do not tell me, what are they doing ?!
          extremely interesting
  • bobba94
    bobba94 April 30 2016 12: 56
    +2
    Visa regime will have to enter. But .... The military base in Tajikistan should remain. Financial assistance is necessary. All sorts of nonsense must be closed. You can call it anything you like: exclusion zone, buffer zone, border territory, zone of mobilization containment - for Russia this is a barrier.
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    2. Disant
      Disant 1 May 2016 11: 29
      0
      in Europe there is Greece and the sea as a buffer zone. Does not help.
  • Tusv
    Tusv April 30 2016 12: 57
    +3
    I know a lot of Russians and not only those who were evicted by the nationalities from Central Asia. Educated, talented, hardworking people.
    They also responded from Turkmenistan to my resume. Come along, Turkmenochki will dance, Salary 210, we will bring, we will give housing free of charge.
    Well, in general, it’s violet to me to change their names
  • tchoni
    tchoni April 30 2016 12: 59
    +7
    With my hands and feet I will support the main thesis of the article: Russia must defend its titular nation wherever and in what quantity it lives. I also want to add that the MAIN goal of the country's domestic national policy should be getting rid of nationalities. Creation of a single RUSSIAN nation. Because for all external enemies we are ALL Russians, regardless of the nation.
  • Masya masya
    Masya masya April 30 2016 13: 15
    +13
    Late ... Ukrainians first ... Russian names to rename Ukrainians, as always ahead of the rest ...
    1. Record Nadoev
      Record Nadoev April 30 2016 13: 54
      +4
      Quote: Masya Masya
      Ukrainians first.

      Surname Serbian.
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    3. atakan
      atakan April 30 2016 14: 13
      +1
      the first, long before that, were tribales.
    4. avt
      avt April 30 2016 14: 43
      +2
      Quote: Masya Masya
      Late ... Ukrainians first ...

      Bach Drishchenko, the name is missing from this moshkale - ZAICI-II-IV!
  • Dimy4
    Dimy4 April 30 2016 13: 16
    +2
    one will be proud of its Tajik names

    And there’s nothing more to be proud of in principle.
  • CORNET
    CORNET April 30 2016 13: 19
    +5
    The article is excellent, thanks Roman! hi Such topics need to be raised, and immodestly hushed up ... Otherwise, we will again drown in blood and grind our teeth from insult!
  • Flipman
    Flipman April 30 2016 13: 20
    +2
    in Kazakhstan back in 2006 it was, maybe earlier but purely voluntary! friend removed his surname and now he is only on Batyushka Erlan Bakhytkaliuly. I ask why Yerla is this for you, but in return it will be easier to get a job))
    1. marshes
      marshes April 30 2016 13: 35
      +1
      Quote: Flipman
      in Kazakhstan back in 2006 it was, maybe earlier but purely voluntary! friend removed his surname and now he is only on Batyushka Erlan Bakhytkaliuly. I ask why Yerla is this for you, but in return it will be easier to get a job))

      Even earlier. Since '91 it was possible.
      If you consider that Kazakh surnames is the name of someone from ancestors. So the real surnames of the Kazakhs were very long like those of the Arabs, for example, the name of the genus, subgenus .... and so on. Places on UD.L. and Passparta wasn’t enough laughing
      Take even the Scandinavians Carloson, son of Karl
      laughing Germans in general, if with a really baronial kind ... laughing
      1. Flipman
        Flipman April 30 2016 14: 38
        0
        yes only 10 years ago it was very fashionable wink Greetings from Almaty (Almaty or Verny)
        1. marshes
          marshes April 30 2016 14: 48
          0
          Quote: Flipman
          it is only 10 years ago it was very fashionable Greetings from Almaty (Alma-Ata or Verny)

          I'm on Altel. laughing
          Yes, they are already changing, my little ones have already been "naturalized" from birth smile There is birth certificate. that document that makes me related. The surname was left without the grandfather’s name, that is, the surname was on behalf of the grandfather. My father didn’t have a middle name, then they added when he left the army, mid-60s.
  • Million
    Million April 30 2016 13: 26
    +5
    It was necessary to work better with the former Union republics, then there would have been less problems.
  • zoknyay82
    zoknyay82 April 30 2016 13: 26
    +11
    If someone has forgotten what our "good" neighbors did with the Russians who came to help create the industry and teach their children, I will not forget this and will not forgive, I will not stir up, but no one will make me love them either.
    1. the villain
      the villain 1 May 2016 01: 09
      0
      Quote: zoknyay82
      but nobody loves me to love them either

      I agree !!!
  • Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev April 30 2016 13: 27
    +7
    In my opinion, let the Tajiks call themselves what they want, this is their business. The main thing is not to touch ours. Ivanovs were not Tajikized. Well, if you dare to encroach on the names of Russian people, then ours can be taken home, or protected by issuing Russian passports, if desired. True, if it really comes to such a confrontation, it will be necessary to introduce a visa regime with Tajikistan. So that all Tajik workers return home from Russia and set the brains on their leadership.
    1. ando_bor
      ando_bor April 30 2016 13: 46
      +3
      Nobody touches Russian surnames, it’s a great example of the work of the State Department, stuffing - inciting, - fools are being carried out, provocateurs are supporting, but real problems are always being raised, it’s clearly seen by the number of publications and organizations, - the State Department’s handwriting.
      1. dali
        dali April 30 2016 14: 39
        +3
        Quote: ando_bor
        Nobody touches Russian surnames

        And now we read that they answered in the Ministry of Justice of Tajikistan:
        "There is no official ban on Russian endings "ov-ova" or "ovich-ovna" yet"- said Sirojzoda. According to her, the changes so far concern children whose parents apply to the registry office to obtain birth certificates."Adult citizens of the country, bearing surnames and patronymics with Russian endings, can choose to change them in a national way or not ", - said Sirojzoda. According to her, when changing surnames, you will have to change not only your passport, but also all other documents - birth certificate, diploma, marriage certificate, so everyone has their own choice in this matter.
        1) What does it mean ANOTHER ?! belay
        2) And the children ?! belay

        "The right of national minorities to a name in the Republic of Tajikistan is guaranteed in accordance with their national traditions. Representatives of national minorities who are citizens of the Republic of Tajikistan, at their discretion, can assign names to their children in accordance with the Register of Tajik National Names or their national traditions. The procedure for writing the surname, name and patronymic of citizens representing national minorities is carried out in accordance with the spelling rules of the corresponding language".

        Corresponding to what? And who will determine this correspondence?

        Well, in Tajikistan can only a Tajik name be chosen ?! And the Uzbek can be ?! And the Anglo-Saxon ?! belay

        Or can we do the same in Russia? Liberasty will be the first to howl so much, it will stink that you won’t breathe !!!

        And if dad and mom are of different nationalities, then how ?! belay

        So this govnosakon is, and is directed, naturally, against Russia first of all !!!
        1. ando_bor
          ando_bor April 30 2016 14: 46
          +1
          Ukrainians jumped against real crooks and thieves, it’s clear that this is all organized by the State Department with the naked eye in handwriting, and this article is part of the project.
      2. dali
        dali April 30 2016 14: 43
        0
        Quote: ando_bor
        - Tupariks are underway

        Who is Tupariki ?!
        1. ando_bor
          ando_bor April 30 2016 15: 35
          0
          - Who is being.
  • Basil50
    Basil50 April 30 2016 13: 39
    +2
    It’s interesting to read * Tolerasts * about * who should do what *. Without force pressure in Asia, issues cannot be resolved at all. * The culture * of Asia is based on the slave trade and * campaigns for prey *. There, the entire population for centuries * was brought up * precisely in such * values ​​*, only the SOVIET UNION provided the opportunity to live their work and be proud of it. Today, a return to * national values ​​* is welcomed by local * nauruzshahs *, and in Russia they indulge, and this is what is embarrassing to read or hear from eyewitnesses. Is it time to restore order among the performers of state interests. The interests of RUSSIA and RUSSIAN CITIZENS should be a priority.
  • Yak28
    Yak28 April 30 2016 13: 43
    +8
    Quote: g1v2
    We’ll begin to measure the incision of the eyes - we will sleep and our territory. So to fight for the preservation of our influence, it is necessary that Central Asia for which our ancestors perished remain a part of our civilization, and not go to the Turks, Americans or anyone else. I think the American missiles in the SA or the ISIS base in Uzbekistan didn’t bother us in x .. Therefore, it is necessary to fight.

    And who started measuring eyes and surviving Russians from their republics? Is it normal that millions of citizens of Azerbaijan, Central Asian republics working in the Russian Federation honestly and not so much, send billions of rubles to their countries undermining the country's economy? Occupy places in schools, kindergartens, hospitals and so on .And their republics look into the mouth of the United States, Turkey and other states hostile to Russia. In case of war they will leave for themselves, and possibly join the enemies of Russia, or they will spoil from the inside. If you think that you have the possibility of forming IS bases in Africa , then we can drag all the blacks to us.
  • ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 April 30 2016 14: 07
    +2
    Well, Faizulo and his brothers, whom I employ every year, have been working in the summer for the eighth year! I do not know if they have enough money earned over the summer, but they are returning ... Our horticultural cooperative is in great demand! Taking into account the fact that in our cooperative it is entirely a marriage illiquid asset, albeit a very wealthy one, for Tajiks, they almost turn on a stopwatch and deliver them to the sections on "Kruzaks" and "Mitsubas"! They have some kind of great sense of the earth: the whole plot is plowed into dust, neat beds and, after them, for some reason everything grows! Moreover, steel puts beams on the plots, where they bring their wives and trust them with beds and greenhouses! Two options: maybe, simply, the Russian woman has become lazy, or the men have begun to earn money ... New "nobles" ?!
    1. zoknyay82
      zoknyay82 April 30 2016 15: 47
      +2
      At first, they plagued our competitors with us, in the form of local drunks, dumping prices for work, then they lifted up prices, and they didn’t learn how to work, they were completely crooked with requests like real ones. I am more likely to hire a company than Uzbekotajikomoldovo .... workers.
      1. ALABAY45
        ALABAY45 April 30 2016 17: 04
        +1
        How much will the "firm" take from you for 1 running meter of a trench under water ?! If possible, the director's phone number! hi And, then, we are not hiring this category of people to set up CNC machines. By the way, you never tried to dig a shovel 30 cm wide, a trench 1,5 m deep and 15 cm wide?! Here I am, also ...! belay
        1. AleksPol
          AleksPol April 30 2016 20: 29
          0
          They have a craving for earth in the blood. True, not everyone. In his youth, he had to wander around Central Asia on business trips. I noticed one interesting pattern. Crossing the border between Turkmenistan and the Uzbek SSR is not necessary to look at the signs. If women delve into the field then Turkmenistan, if you see a man with a catmen, you are in Uzbekistan. Checked more than once. And as for digging a trench, you are right, Uzbek and Ketmen work wonders smile
      2. AleksPol
        AleksPol April 30 2016 20: 37
        0
        And what good is the drunk. Hired and drunks and visitors under the foundation to dig. Started with ours, span. Received an advance and a few days in zyuzy. He sent them out by pendals, and they dug out two Uzbeks in two days and the price was not very. feeding and 2 pieces per snout (2014). And how much would the company take, do not clarify?
        1. Kuzyakin15
          Kuzyakin15 1 May 2016 20: 48
          +1
          !
          They have become the same as our drunks, "jack of all trades". I write for my city. Impudent, huddled in flocks - "brigades", do not really know how to do anything and do not want to. Prices lift no less than their homegrown. They make a blunder.
          Old people, yes, they are trying their best. Young and middle-aged people are “crooked-handed.” Neither put up a fence, nor cover a roof, nor fold walls so that they would not fall apart. And they buy and hire them, and then cry and scold themselves that they have contacted them
    2. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS 1 May 2016 21: 41
      +1
      Quote: ALABAY45
      Taking into account the fact that in our cooperative it is entirely - marriage illiquid, however, very wealthy, Tajiks, almost turn on the stopwatch and deliver to the sites on "Kruzaks" and "Mitsubahs"!

      the picture is familiar, only these Central Asian friends got sick and began to take money too fast, and work began to get worse!
      But Poets somewhere found the Viet Cong, here they even plow with lanterns at night))
  • yahont
    yahont April 30 2016 14: 07
    +4
    I think that what is happening now in Tajikistan is a consequence of the "toothless" policy of our leadership, as since 1991. the course of the country changed, so it is still not clear where the "shepherds" are taking us, I remember how in the "agony" they tried to "give birth" to a national idea in the 2000s, so it is still not clear where the country is heading. Thanks to Ukraine and the "sanctions" of our Western "partners", somehow the country rallied and its patriotic spirit rose. What to do with Tajikistan? Pay rent for military facilities, without them, so far, introduce a visa regime. It is good to clear the vast expanses of our country for the return of Tajiks to their historical homeland, to return, if not all so much, leaving only those who are really useful to the country, obtaining a residence permit for Tajiks to introduce on the principle of the United States, and to strengthen our southern borders, to organize financial support for the Russian diaspora in Tajikistan, but ... Unfortunately, no one will do this. wink
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus April 30 2016 14: 16
    +7
    Well, maybe for a start it’s worth stopping to hush up that Russian genocide,
    which was arranged in the former republics of the USSR?
    A couple of TV shows, a few movies are stronger ...
    And then this policy of not remembering someone else’s leads to
    that they wipe all our feet about us.
    Yes, we are strong and we have "Caliber". But in other countries Russians are not considered people.
  • Professor
    Professor April 30 2016 14: 31
    -3
    I think that one Russian costs 50 Tajiks.

    And then you are surprised that the Russians in Tajikistan are not having fun living. In the East, after such words ... recourse

    In general, this article draws on Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. Administration ... Auh !!! Do you want to discuss such an important topic as the situation of Russian-speaking people in general and Russians in particular in Central Asia? But not the same !!! request
    1. BarakHuseynovich
      BarakHuseynovich April 30 2016 14: 55
      0
      Because the Israelis are changing their 1 to 300?
      Well, let's also ... Tajiks will not mind, but what do you care?
      1. Professor
        Professor April 30 2016 15: 15
        +15
        Quote: BarakHuseynovich
        Because the Israelis are changing their 1 to 300?

        1 to 1027 to be exact. We can and 1 in 10000 if necessary, but this is irrelevant. Oppress your abroad? Here is the prescription:
        1. We organize the Ministry of Absorption, which arranges returnees (returning compatriots).
        2. We build absorption centers for temporary accommodation of returnees.
        3. We give repatriates citizenship at the airport. There is also medical insurance for the first year and lifting cash.
        4. We give the tax rebate to the employer who has accepted the returnee.
        5. Tax exemption in the first year of the repatriate himself.
        Continue?

        Quote: BarakHuseynovich
        Well, let's also ... Tajiks will not mind, but what do you care?

        General rules on the site
        1. Victor Demchenko
          Victor Demchenko 1 May 2016 08: 20
          0
          Oleg, and who is so stubbornly minus you? because you suggest sensible thoughts, minuses fly ... maybe by inertia? request what
          1. Professor
            Professor 1 May 2016 08: 22
            +1
            Quote: Victor Demchenko
            Oleg, and who is so stubbornly minus you? because you suggest sensible thoughts, minuses fly ... maybe by inertia? request what

            Yes to health. I am not interested in the topic of rating. hi
        2. Weyland
          Weyland 2 May 2016 21: 32
          +1
          Quote: Professor
          Continue?

          Items are of course excellent hi . But than continue, better before put these items:
          0) Abominable EdRo - in the garbage can! am
          Otherwise, there will not be a single item!
        3. Weyland
          Weyland 2 May 2016 21: 32
          +1
          Quote: Professor
          Continue?

          Items are of course excellent hi . But than continue, better before put these items:
          0) Abominable EdRo - in the garbage can! am
          Otherwise, there will not be a single item!
  • Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb April 30 2016 14: 31
    +2
    How Russians have become strangers in Tajikistan and what to do about it

    What to do? Make them strangers here !!! Completely aliens. When Rakhmon will have to feed today's Gaster himself, then we’ll see how much we will be strangers.
    1. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 1 May 2016 08: 22
      0
      you know, but according to my ideas, Rahmon doesn’t give a damn about those who return from Russia, if they don’t start cutting him, then he us army on this thing. (blank space) hi
    2. aleshka
      aleshka 2 May 2016 05: 09
      0
      you don’t have to, they just cut out the extra ones!
  • Marseilles
    Marseilles April 30 2016 14: 38
    +1
    A sovereign country, a different culture in general, has the right. And if we leave from there, then next door "friend", the Chinese are already in charge there.
  • Rostislav
    Rostislav April 30 2016 14: 54
    +1
    One Russian moved in - 50 Tajiks stayed at home

    Tajiks, Uzbeks, Turkmen, etc.
    The correct article. Not only a trend designation, but also a possible solution.
  • Strashila
    Strashila April 30 2016 15: 00
    +3
    The first and main sign that those in power do not feel far ... how to distract people from problems ... start a reform. Naturally, under the harmonious national patriotic slogan ... down with the colonial Russian past.
    Only oddly enough they live, they live at the expense of the colonialists ... we admit honestly, stupidly keep them at the expense of the people's money. We give work, treat, train ... at the expense of OUR budget. Plus we keep their elite ... constantly we forgive the debts of independent Tajikistan.
    They expelled the Russian colonialists ... began to live better?
    Demolished the monuments, renamed the city ... began to live better?
    Change names and surnames ... type wiser ???
    But behind this, one more thing is visible, a colossal redistribution of property ...
    changing so many documents, and this is not only a passport, but also the accompanying documents ... for land and other property, it just doesn’t go through .... they will settle accounts with someone, they will squeeze the property from someone ... reform ... everything is allowed. And still not imaginable, not plowed field for corruption ... and there it is a norm ... in the bureaucrats will gobble up.
  • bad
    bad April 30 2016 15: 09
    +1
    One must think that the first swallows are still flying. The prohibition of Russian custom abroad, the prohibition of language, the fight against all Russian.
    ..the Tajiks had only one single writer, Sadriddin Aini, who wrote the book "SLAVES" .. I recommend reading, since the time of writing, almost nothing has changed ..
  • VeterS
    VeterS April 30 2016 15: 15
    +2
    Where there is no political will, there the Rahmon-Okhlomon do what they want. Russia is an empire, in fact, but the government of Russia ..., well, iPhones are ... us!
    1. Wind_zl
      Wind_zl April 30 2016 19: 12
      +1
      This is true, only iPhones are gandons on the mind when there is no political will.
  • Siberian
    Siberian April 30 2016 15: 18
    +4
    It seems that again fate will become an empire for Russia, with all peoples and nations residing on the same territory without local settlements. We have a lot of Tajiks. Probably, if we return Alaska, tomorrow the Tajiks will be there with us. With the collapse of the union, we kicked them (I don’t mean the ruling elite), they were dead of war (did we know much about it?): Some militants came down from the mountains, everyone - both Russians and Tajiks - fled from the war. While the tops admire themselves, the people in the mass dream again to unite with RO Russia, like Crimea.
    The whole collapse of the alliance was about the fact that many who wanted to organize themselves to be presidents, vice-directors and other bumps. They don’t just part with this.
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir April 30 2016 15: 31
    +2
    How Russians have become strangers in Tajikistan and what to do about it

    in principle, though, something needs to be done, and not by the sea to wait for the weather
    it will resolve itself, this is not a pregnancy in a sheep, and if you continue to wait, then "Ukraine" will occur throughout Asia
    1. atalef
      atalef April 30 2016 20: 38
      +4
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      in principle, though, something needs to be done, and not by the sea to wait for the weather

      Not just something, but to declare that a lover of Russian and his family members have the RIGHT to repatriate to their homeland (to Russia), the right to employment, lifting and citizenship on the first day of arrival.
      Then everyone in the world will understand that Russian for Russia and Russians is not an empty word.
      Yes, it can be difficult (in Israel, a tax was also introduced (5% of the salary) on returnees, but these are your compatriots and they should not be thrown.

      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      n will resolve itself

      With such a policy as it is now, it will resolve. from despair, they will change their names and after 1-2 generations, no one will remember that they were once Russian.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir April 30 2016 21: 38
        0
        Quote: atalef
        declare that any Russian and his family members have the RIGHT to repatriate to their homeland (to Russia), the right to employment, lifting and citizenship on the first day of arrival.

        not tired of writing nonsense?
        DO NOT REALLY FULFILL SUCH A STATEMENT
        you need to put yourself in such a way that the Russians feel behind them the power of the Empire no matter where they live, and any ruler, before looking askance at the Russians obliquely, a hundred times thought it necessary to do this
        1. atalef
          atalef April 30 2016 22: 13
          +2
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          not bothered to write nonsense?

          Do you think this is nonsense?
          Quote: atalef
          and to declare that any Russian and his family members have the RIGHT to repatriate to their homeland (to Russia), the right to employment, lifting and citizenship on the first day of arrival.

          then sorry
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          DO NOT REALLY FULFILL SUCH A STATEMENT

          Israel has fulfilled and since its formation (1948), about 3.5 million people came to it. 60% of the total population. And they came in waves
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          you need to put yourself in so that the Russians feel behind them the power of the Empire no matter where they live

          Yes ? Well, and how do you protect Mr. Ivanov in the Baltic states? No way.
          He will feel the strength only when he knows, the Motherland will accept it at any time and at any age.
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          and any ruler before looking askance at the Russians sideways a hundred times thought it necessary to do this

          Not achievable, you are just afraid that competitors will come and your standard of living will fall.
          Or you are simply not Russian, if you do not want your returning home.
      2. AleksPol
        AleksPol April 30 2016 21: 47
        +2
        I remember how I left UzSSR. Received citizenship at the Russian Embassy (1993). For two years he lived there with Russian citizenship. To be honest there were no problems. Problems started when I moved to Russia. I managed to lose the passport of the USSR where Russian citizenship is indicated in print. About two years proved that I am a citizen. First, they asked at their own expense to make a request to the embassy in Uzbekistan that I accepted citizenship there, the answer was waiting for about a year. And when he brought the answer to the OVIR, they told me that they themselves would still verify the authenticity of the papers. I waited another six months. All the time I lived with a certificate. And how then the spouse received citizenship is a separate story, although her father lived in Novorossiysk. Now you remember everything with a smile, and then I had to run and shake my nerves
      3. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko 1 May 2016 08: 26
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        Yes, it can be difficult (in Israel, a tax was also introduced (5% of the salary) on returnees, but these are your compatriots and they should not be thrown.

        I agree to pay tax, if only in business! and so we pay a lot more taxes, and it’s not clear what and at our expense the bureaucrats are gaining weight who have a place under the bunks in the zone! am
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn April 30 2016 15: 31
    -3
    If a person chose to live in Tajikistan for himself, he will determine his future fate. Everything is solved, the question is - is it necessary? It is up to him.

    According to the current Law “On Citizenship of the Republic of Tajikistan”, citizens of this country cannot act as subjects of other states, with the exception of cases provided for by interstate agreements. It is on the basis of the latter that it is possible dual citizenship in Tajikistan with Russia.

    Source: http://zagrandok.ru/emigraciya/dvojnoe/grazhdanstvo-v-tadzhikistane-s-rossiej.ht
    ml
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir April 30 2016 17: 38
      0
      Quote: avg-mgn
      If a person chose to live in Tajikistan for himself

      with such ideas you surrendered 20 million Russians who, unlike the Moscow intelligentsia, love Russia
      1. Yak28
        Yak28 April 30 2016 18: 25
        0
        Tell me a Muscovite what intelligence is, otherwise I have been living in Moscow for 40 years in the dark.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir April 30 2016 18: 42
          0
          I don’t really need it, you have a vonidze and snow maiden run around the streets screaming
  • igor1981
    igor1981 April 30 2016 16: 10
    +2
    Such a person, unlike Gaster, will not come to sit out on the allowance. He is ready to come to work, pay taxes and be an ordinary citizen of the country. His, I note, the country, by the right of his birth.

    Roman well done, he said everything right and right. This summer, my family and I are moving to RUSSIA for permanent residence under the state program for the resettlement of compatriots abroad. This program is necessary and correct, although it could be simplified for Russians and representatives of those nationalities whose original territories are part of the Russian Federation (Tatars, Bashkirs, Kalmyks, etc., etc.). And then at the Russian Embassy in Uzbekistan who there are only Uzbeks, Koreans, and others.
    1. bumbarash
      bumbarash 1 May 2016 16: 56
      -2
      Koreans, incidentally, are also from the ancestral territories of the Russian Federation. This is the Far East.
      1. Kaiten
        Kaiten 1 May 2016 22: 50
        +1
        Quote: bumbarash
        Koreans, incidentally, are also from the ancestral territories of the Russian Federation. This is the Far East.

        For some reason, only their territory was given to the EAO.
    2. BIGLESHIY
      BIGLESHIY 2 May 2016 16: 56
      +2
      Quote: igor1981

      This summer, my family and I are moving to RUSSIA for permanent residence under the state program for the resettlement of compatriots abroad. This program is necessary and correct, although it could be simplified for Russians and representatives of those nationalities whose original territories are part of the Russian Federation (Tatars, Bashkirs, Kalmyks, etc., etc.). And then at the Russian Embassy in Uzbekistan who there are only Uzbeks, Koreans, and others.

      Good luck with the move and the device in a new place.
      My co-worker 8 years ago with his family and his brother's family moved to Russia from Kyrgyzstan, so he could not get citizenship for 7 years. He got it last year + lift.
      We also have an Uzbek, so he got citizenship in 1.5 years.
      Recently, in one TV show, we announced the following information: It turns out that in the Far East, migrants are paid 240 tons of lifts + 170 tons of rubles (if my memory serves me) for each family member with the condition that the recipient will live in the Far East for 2 years. this help is mainly Tajiks, Uzbeks, etc. not Slavs fool .And here we are still wondering why our city turns into "Tashkent"
  • yuriy55
    yuriy55 April 30 2016 16: 11
    +1
    Because when the next fighters for the purity of the blood of the nation begin to kill the Russians again, it will be too late.


    Sometimes, after reading such articles, the thought of coming to power in Russia of a person who does not care for what purpose Russian people are killed in various territories and countries, and how it is possible to stop ...what
  • teascher
    teascher April 30 2016 16: 13
    0
    Shoot me
  • teascher
    teascher April 30 2016 16: 14
    0
    Tajiks and shot
  • teascher
    teascher April 30 2016 16: 15
    0
    on Kargar street 12
  • teascher
    teascher April 30 2016 16: 19
    0
    I will add === they shot me on Kargar Street 12, shot me-- neighbor == you're lying
  • teascher
    teascher April 30 2016 16: 22
    0
    He lived and was killed on Kosciuszko Street --- Look into my eyes for yes and night.
  • teascher
    teascher April 30 2016 16: 26
    0
    They stopped the car, took the children out, a long-term neighbor turned out to be-- don't look
  • teascher
    teascher April 30 2016 16: 28
    0
    like this. and not
  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec April 30 2016 16: 46
    0
    In general, a person is a conflict creature, even when around himself are similar. And when around a different nation with different habits, in general the factor is not for the faint of heart. It seems that everything around is not right. The fact of development of not only a person, but also a society where different people live is very important. If you take countries like Tajikistan, then his society is still far from perfect. Therefore, there will prevail wildness in hostility to other people.
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