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Military Miles "Ashgabat"

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It was the second month after the attack of fascist Germany on the Soviet Union. In the Pacific, especially in its southern part, German raiders and submarines hunted allied transport ships. However, massive and active actions at this time in the east was not observed. The steamer "Ashgabat" of the Far Eastern Shipping Company was heading to the port of Sydney for a load of lead and wool.

The transition from Vladivostok to Sydney took place with complete disguise and far from the traditional swimming courses in the area. Everything was going fine, except for the incident in the Coral Sea, when an Australian plane with machine gun bursts in front of and above the vessel tried to stop Ashgabat and send it to the port of Rabaul in New Guinea to check the ownership. Attempts to establish communication with the light signaling with him were not successful due to insufficient power of the ship's light signals. At nightfall, the plane flew away, and the Soviet ship, darkened completely, continued to follow to Sydney.

The specificity of this voyage was that Ashgabat was the first Soviet ship to Australia, with which we did not have diplomatic relations and where there were no representative offices of the Soviet Union. Naturally, this was reflected in his stay in Sydney. On the port roadstead, a Soviet steamer was met by boats, yachts and motorboats full of people who welcomed our first ship to their country.

Military Miles "Ashgabat"


Representatives of the Governor-General of Australia, the mayor of Sydney and the naval authorities to greet the ship in Australia came along with the port authorities who arrived to register the arrival of the vessel. In honor of the arrival of "Ashgabat" in the city hall a reception was held at which the mayor of the city, representatives of civil and military authorities spoke. In response, Alexey Pavlovich Yaskevich, captain of the steamer, thanked the speakers for the warm welcome and expressed the hope that in the near future a break would come on the fronts and the enemy would be defeated by joint efforts. During the stay, the Russian sailors arranged several receptions on their ship and took part in organized meetings on the shore.



In the local newspapers, articles were almost daily published, pictures of the ship and crew members with very positive and benevolent comments. Struck discipline, order and cleanliness on the ship, good appearance and behavior of the crew members. During the stay, letters, telegrams, postcards from various societies and individuals came with greetings and congratulations on the occasion of a safe arrival and the hope of establishing good relations. The Dockers of Sydney presented the ship with a gift - a watch mounted in mahogany with the inscription: “The crew members of the Ashgabat farm from the dockers of Sydney”. These watches were subsequently transferred to the Vladivostok Maritime Museum. Before leaving Sydney, the Australia-USSR Society was organized. After the end of loading in Sydney and calling at Brisbane for reloading, on September 10 the ship headed for Vladivostok, where it arrived without special incident on October 2.

After some repair work, Ashgabat was sent to the port of New Orleans to install weapons, load and join the allied northern convoys to deliver cargo to our northern ports of Murmansk and Arkhangelsk. From the very first days of the Great Patriotic War, the transport fleet in the Baltic, in the Northern and Southern basins, began military transportation. It was a difficult and highly dangerous job, because the ships at that time did not have weapons, and the crews did not have the experience of navigation in wartime conditions. There were also no mine protection, although the fascists managed to mine a number of strategically important areas.

The military situation dramatically changed and complicated the conditions of navigation. All navigational aids of the fence (light and radio beacons, buoys, milestones, targets), which ensured safe navigation, were put out of action in order to mask. The communication of ships with the shore and with each other was extremely limited. For the entire time of the war, ships were introduced blackout and complete blackout. Despite all the difficulties, transport sailors fleetShowing heroism and dedication, they successfully completed the tasks assigned to them.

From the beginning of 1942, a part of the largest and most high-speed vessels of the transport fleet was sent to transport goods from the ports of the USA, Canada, England to Murmansk, Arkhangelsk. Navigation on this theater of war passed through the North Atlantic in the high northern latitudes, and was carried out in convoys. These convoys were international, they included the courts of England, the USA, Canada, the Soviet Union and other allied countries. The convoy escort consisted of frigates, destroyers, cruisers, battleships and other warships of the allied states. The transport ships marching in the convoy were, as a rule, armed with cannons, machine guns, depth charges, mine protection and aerostat barriers. Part of the ships marching in convoys had small military teams.



Navigation in convoys was difficult. A convoy is a closed order of ships that must move and maneuver as a whole in any conditions and circumstances of navigation. Each ship must maintain its own distance, which constituted the 1-3 cable, observe the established course and speed and carry out maneuvers at the command of the convoy commander. If we consider that the convoys were formed from vessels of different tonnage, with different maneuverability and inertial qualities, and taking into account that the convoy vessels were completely darkened, and from navigation navigational lights were allowed to keep only a blue Hakabort fire of reduced visibility, you can imagine how difficult it was such swimming is not only militarily.

In the order and in the instructions of the convoy, such maneuvers were provided for in the event of an enemy attack, such as turning "all of a sudden", "consistently" or dispersed. Performing them required a lot of art. The most difficult in terms of navigation was the navigation of convoys in conditions of limited visibility (snowstorm, fog, dark time of day), outside visual contact with neighboring vessels. After all, the slightest deviation from a given course or speed regime threatened to collide with the corresponding consequences.

With the arrival of “Ashgabat” on November 19 in New Orleans, bow and stern guns were installed on the vessel, anti-aircraft machine guns, a set of anti-submarine depth charges and a mine defense system were installed on the wings of the bridge and the boat deck. Special crew members were trained in the maintenance and use of these weapons. Then I had to ship aviation gasoline in barrels. This operation was unusual. It was required to use all the cargo capacity and load capacity in an indexless vessel.

Since the American standard of the barrels allowed the installation of no more 8 rows, and this did not fill the volume of cargo space, the Soviet sailors had to build in all the holds false floors from 2,5-inch boards, on solid supports in the flora shelves on the deck. After loading, the vessel headed to the Canadian port of Halifax for inclusion in the convoy.

3 January 1941, as part of a convoy of approximately 100 ships, Ashgabat headed for England. The transition in the North Atlantic in stormy conditions went well, with the exception of a few stragglers or lost ships. During the passage of the court escort successfully repelled attempts to attack the convoy submarines. After arriving in Clyde, part of the ships of this convoy was sent to the Scottish port of Lough Yu to form a convoy to Murmansk.

In March, a convoy of PQ-12 from 14 transports was formed. Their number, except for “Ashkhabad”, included “Stepan Khalturin”. Under the escort of the Anglo-American warships in the first part of the journey and under the protection of Soviet warships in the second part of the journey, the PQ-12 convoy, despite attempts to attack submarines, safely and without loss reached Murmansk.



However, not always everything went so well. The convoys suffered heavy losses. Everyone remembers that only 35 came from our 17 ships of the PQ-11 convoy. The feat of the “Old Bolshevik” motor ship, many times described, testifies to the courage, dedication and heroism of the merchant seamen. Bravely went to our ships and in single voyage.

In an artillery duel with a German submarine off the coast of Australia, the winner was the crew of the ship “Uelen” (captain N. Malakhov). Avoiding torpedo attacks of a submarine near the island of Jan Mayen, the steamer "Vanzetti" (captain V. Verond) sank this boat with the fire of his gun. These and other examples show, as G. Rudnev writes in the book “Courses Laid under Fire”, that “yesterday’s peace ships became war-ships, and their crews became fighters and, despite the fact that they did not wear military uniform, were considered until the end of the war by civilians, no less trials fell to their lot than those who fought at the front. ”

The former People's Commissar of the Navy of the USSR N. Kuznetsov in the book “Fleet Alarm” gives statistics of single voyages: “From October 1942 to February 1943, from our northern ports were sent in single order 24 Soviet and only three allied transport, and from Iceland to us - 10 allied and three Soviet transport; from the 40 transports making the independent transitions, the 6 of the Allied and 4 of our vehicles were killed. ”

However, the war was not only at sea, and the danger that threatened ships in convoys or in single voyage did not diminish with arrival at the ports. Despite the almost uninterrupted airborne bombardment of Soviet fighters, enemy bombers broke through to Murmansk and dropped bombs on the city, on the port, on ships, so that the crew, scheduled for combat anti-aircraft guns, also carried this additional watch.

During the unloading of "Ashgabat", enemy aircraft repeatedly flew at the moorings of the port of Murmansk. Sometimes the bombs fell near the place of loading, but the entire explosion and flammable cargo of aviation gas was completely unloaded.



Then “Ashgabat” in the QP-12 convoy (in the opposite direction of the letter of the symbol changed places) returned to New York via Reykjavik, and from there 27 on April 1942 of the year appeared in ballast to Cuba. At the time of the east coast of the USA, the fascist submarines were in charge. The US Navy is still gaining experience in the fight against submarines. The voyage to Cuba was carried out in a single order according to the instructions of the US Coast Guard, obtained from the Naval Department. The instructions determined the exact courses and sections of the path that need to be taken only during the daytime. In principle, it was sailing along the coast at minimum depths using, in case of danger, an “anti-submarine zigzag” maneuver — a change of course on 22,5 ° to the left and right of the main course at unequal intervals. Turning points for new courses were decorated with luminous and sound buoys.

With the dawn of April 29, Ashgabat left Chezapik Bay. Further navigation was to be carried out, according to the instructions, without entering the intermediate ports to wait for the dark time. In the process of navigation, observation was carried out by sectors from the wings of the bridge, the forecastle and from the platform of the stern implement. Classes and training alerts were conducted. weapons. At 19 hours, with visibility of the 3-4 miles, feed sector observers reported that a deaf noise was heard at the starboard 130 ° course angle, as if from an explosion, and a small surge was seen at a distance of about two miles. Immediately the alarm went off, the crew took their places on schedule, the surge area was given as the stern. The ship began to perform "anti-submarine zigzag." Over the sea was conducted enhanced surveillance. After passing around the course of 40 minutes from the surge and not noticing anything suspicious, Ashgabat lay down on the previous course. Partial alert was given a battle alert, but calculation remained on the stern and bow implements.

In 21.50, on the right wing of the bridge, a powerful explosion was heard in the stern of the vessel in the deeptank area, the light on the vessel was turned off, and the alarm call did not work. However, even without this, the crew had already taken their places in alarm. Aft quickly went under water with a large roll on the starboard side. After about a minute of feeding, the 2-3 minutes before the spar deck and the middle superstructure went under water. Almost immediately after the explosion of the torpedo, or rather the power of the explosion, torpedoes, senior assistant L. Tatarinov, second mechanic D. Trofimov, boatswain F Shtykov and sailor V. Arkhipov, who were at the nose gun, fired three shots at half-mile emerged the boat. However, due to the large trim and heel of the ship, it was not possible to carry out aimed fire, however, after the third shot the boat sank and disappeared.



Immediately after the torpedoing, the radio operator D. Pankov broadcast the message about the attack of the submarine. The senior mechanic V. Sidorenko reported that the engine and boiler rooms were flooded. Thus, approximately after 15-20 minutes after an explosion, as well as due to damage and deformation of the transverse bulkheads, both the stern holds, dip tank, engine room and boiler room and the second hold were completely flooded, resulting in a complete loss of vitality. The ship sank to the ground with a trim on the stern and roll to starboard in such a way that only the forecastle and part of the bow deck remained on the surface.

Before fully submerging the stern and middle parts of the vessel under water, seeing no opportunity to fight for the buoyancy of the vessel, at about 22.30, Captain Yaskevich gave the crew command to leave the vessel, taking machine guns into the lifeboat, as the possibility of re-ascent of the boat was allowed.

All 36 people of the ship’s crew left the ship in an organized and calm manner on ship boats and rafts. Later, Soviet sailors picked up a US Coast Guard ship and brought it ashore. Fortunately, when torpedoing among the crew, no one was injured, except light injuries, since the explosion occurred in the non-residential part of the aft deck.

Since the ship flooded at shallow depths, Soviet and American specialists arrived from Washington and New York to resolve issues related to the carrying out of ship raising operations. After examining the site of flooding and taking into account the size and nature of the damage, as well as the age of the vessel, the commission concluded that these operations were unsuitable.

The entire crew of the steamer "Ashgabat", both in the process of sailing in convoys, and during the torpedoing of the vessel, behaved courageously and heroically, which was noted in the cruise report. Subsequently, he was disbanded and sent home in different courts, or replenished their crews.

A.P. Yaskevich, after some stay in the USA, was appointed captain of the first ship of the Liberty type, adopted by the Soviet side in the USA and called the Red Guard. On this vessel, Yaskevich sailed until the end of World War II. During the war with Japan, "Red Guard" participated in the landing of troops on the islands of the Kuril ridge, as well as the transfer of military cargo and units in the ports of Korea and China.

Sources:
Paperno A. Aleksey Pavlovich Yaskevich - the first captain of the first liberty, captain No. XXUMX of the war years // Lend-Lease. Pacific Ocean. M .: Terra, 1. C. 1998-243.
Rudnev G. A. Firefights - Vladivostok: Far Eastern Book Publishing House, 1990. C. 17-33.
Yaskevich A. Interrupted voyage // Sea Fleet. 1985. No.8. C.74-77.
Yaskevich A. The first flights under fire // Sea Fleet. 1987. No.8. C.24-26.
Ostrovsky A. Out into the Deep // Novaya Gazeta in Vladivostok. No.309. 15 October 2015.
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  1. Santa Fe
    Santa Fe 6 May 2016 06: 23
    -6
    In the Pacific, especially in its southern part, German raiders and submarines were hunting for Allied transport ships. However, massive and active actions at this time in the east was not observed. The steamer "Ashgabat" of the Far Eastern Shipping Company was heading to the port of Sydney for a load of lead and wool.

    Who got there, thanks to the USSR, who secretly led the Nazis along the Northern Sea Route

    In the summer of 1940, the Komet raider with a displacement of 7500 tons appeared in the Pacific, armed with six 5.9-inch guns, one 60-mm gun, six anti-aircraft guns and six torpedo tubes. In addition, Komet was armed with two hydroplanes, a torpedo boat and carried 270 sea mines. The crew consisted of a 270 man. The stocks of food and equipment, the availability of desalters of seawater allowed the vessel to be in autonomous navigation for at least a year. A variety of equipment allowed the ship to operate in all natural environments. Sleds, fur clothing, skis, tropical uniforms, mosquito nets, and even trinkets for residents of remote Pacific islands were taken ...

    In 1940 — 1941 led combat operations on Allied naval communications in the Pacific in the region of Australia and Oceania. Sank and captured 10 ships with a total tonnage of 42 000 brt., Destroyed oil tanks and a phosphate plant on a remote island of Nauru with artillery fire and caused many other ills.

    ... At 10 in the morning of August 26 "Stalin" led the "Komet" further east. Soon a small caravan entered the powerful ice fields, almost covered by fog. Here the icebreaker had to free from the ice captivity “Komet” stuck in the pierced passage. The ice was so thick that “Stalin” had to crawl out onto the ice from overclocking, literally crushing it with its body. A day later, the ships again went into the waters, clear of ice. Here "Stalin" let know that further east up to the Sannikov Strait (between Kotelny Island and the Lyakhov Islands) the way was opened and left "Komet".

    The transition through the East Siberian Sea first went well. An experienced polar explorer, Eissen, led the Komes between the Bear Islands, relying only on the echo sounder readings. He was well aware that, in front of the mouth of the Kolyma River, the ice situation would be acceptable due to the warm water masses, and he was not mistaken. To the east of the Bear Islands "Komet" was met by the icebreaker "Kaganovich"


    For the operation, the Nazis paid the USSR 950 thousand Reichsmarks

    What else to add to this story? full gut
    1. Uncle Murzik
      Uncle Murzik 6 May 2016 06: 54
      +5
      drop the source?
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 6 May 2016 07: 35
        +2
        "Operation" Thunderstorm ". Bloody games of dictators" IL Bunich.
        1. Wheel
          Wheel 7 May 2016 10: 16
          +8
          Quote: parusnik
          "Operation" Thunderstorm ". Bloody games of dictators" IL Bunich.

          Authoritative source!
          Damn, survived, refer to fiction and movies!
          Bunich is an absolute authority, almost Rezun.
          1. veteran66
            veteran66 9 May 2016 08: 36
            -1
            Quote: Wheel
            Authoritative source!

            what difference does anyone describe, the fact that it was.
            1. Riv
              Riv 10 May 2016 17: 50
              0
              Evgeny Vaganovich, log in.
      2. kig
        kig 11 May 2016 16: 51
        0
        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_auxiliary_cruiser_Komet#Breakout_into_the_P
        acific
      3. nov_tech.vrn
        nov_tech.vrn 29 October 2016 20: 18
        0
        the author of shnyaga - Igor Lvovich Bunich, who wrote about the "party gold", used all fingers in turn as sources
    2. Uncle Murzik
      Uncle Murzik 6 May 2016 06: 56
      +11
      Thus, the powerful Standard Oil regularly supplied the Hitler army with various fuels, and supplied the industry with synthetic rubber and various raw materials. Deliveries also went to Italy and Austria. Moreover, in the United States during the war there were serious problems with the supply of synthetic rubber for American industry. The Standard Oil war did not stop using British intermediaries to sign a contract with I. G. Ferbinidustri ", which allowed the production of aviation gasoline in Germany. So the Luftwaffe planes that bombed the peaceful cities of the Soviet Union, Great Britain, killed British and American soldiers, received gasoline created by the American corporation. During the Second World War, not a single Standard Oil tanker was sunk by German submarines. This is understandable - no one cuts the branch on which he sits.

      Almost until the end of the war, with special permission to trade with Germany, Italy, Japan, the American ITT conducted its business. After the German occupation, the Ford concern did not stop production in France. Particular patronage of the concern's activities in Europe was provided personally by Hermann Goering, who headed the Reichswerk Hermann Goering industrial concern. Even the Coca-Cola company, far from military supplies, started production of the Fanta drink in Germany. And these are far from all examples of cooperation between big business in the USA and Nazi Germany during the war. Subsequently, Yalomir Schacht, in an interview with American doctor Gilbert during the Nuremberg trials, will say: “If you want to indict the industrialists who helped rearm Germany, then you must indict yourself. The Opel automobile plant, for example, did not produce anything other than military products. Your General Motors owned this plant ... As you know, the Nuremberg Tribunal found J. Mine not innocent. And how?
      1. Santa Fe
        Santa Fe 6 May 2016 07: 16
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        Quote: Uncle Murzik
        During World War II, not a single Standard Oil tanker was sunk by German submarines. This is understandable - no one chops the branch on which he sits.


        In war, cases of "friendly fire" happened every other time, when by mistake they "covered" their transport or even a warship. And then Uncle Murzik invites German submariners to ask the name of the shipowner company for each counter target. At night, in a storm, fanning torpedoes

        What you need to be lol to believe and repost this crap
        Quote: Uncle Murzik
        The Opel automobile plant, for example, did not produce anything except military products. Owned this plant is your "General Motors"

        Opel was nationalized by the German government in 1940
        The Germans began to specifically drive the "Fanta" from apple pomace due to the imposed embargo on trade with Germany
        1. Uncle Murzik
          Uncle Murzik 6 May 2016 07: 26
          +9
          GM and Ford were vital components of Nazi war effort. The German Ford was the second largest producer of trucks for the Nazi military. GM factories built thousands of bombers and jet boost systems for Luftwaffe fighters. At the same time, they were enriched by the production of aircraft engines for the US Army Air Corps.

          "The sudden outbreak of war in September 1939 led to a complete switch of GM and Ford factories in the Axis countries to the production of aircraft and trucks," - noted in a report of the US Senate Judiciary Committee in 1974. - In total, subsidiaries of GM and " Ford built approximately 90% of the armored 3-ton semi-trucks and over 70% of the Reich's medium and large trucks. These vehicles, according to American intelligence reports, served as "the backbone of the transport system of the German army."

          General Motors was far more important to the Nazi war machine than Switzerland, says researcher B. Snell. - Switzerland was only a storehouse for looted funds, while GM was an integral part of Germany’s military efforts. The Nazis could invade Poland and Russia without Switzerland. But they could not have done it without GM. ”And how?
          1. Mik13
            Mik13 6 May 2016 09: 26
            +2
            Quote: Uncle Murzik
            GM and Ford were vital components of Nazi war effort. The German Ford was the second largest producer of trucks for the Nazi military. GM factories built thousands of bombers and jet boost systems for Luftwaffe fighters. At the same time, they were enriched by the production of aircraft engines for the US Army Air Corps.

            Listen, Uncle Murzik, no one denies the trade of US corporations with Germany. Mr. Heim, in his book "Trading with the Enemy", described everything quite accurately.

            But in the situation with production capacities in the Reich, blaming their nominee owners, all the same, is unfounded.

            Let's look at a conditional example: in Canada, enterprises owned by Rosselmash operate. If a war breaks out between Canada and Russia, of course, Canada will use these enterprises. Does this mean that the Russian Rosselmash is cooperating with the enemy?
            Further - of course, if the owners of Rosselmash have the opportunity to persuade the command of the air forces to not bomb their enterprises heavily, they will take advantage of it. Nevertheless, this is their property, despite the fact that they do not receive any profit during the war.
            Further - after the victory of Russia over Canada, Rosselmash gets an opportunity to dispose of his property again. Suppose, during the war, the engineers of these enterprises developed some unique know-how that Rosselmash will inherit. Does this mean that somewhere Rosselmash somehow violated legal laws or even simply acted unethically?
            1. Uncle Murzik
              Uncle Murzik 6 May 2016 09: 46
              +4
              and that the USSR, already being in the war with Germany, also traded with the Nazis, as did the United States? Well, what a "kindergarten" if only, if only!
              1. Mik13
                Mik13 6 May 2016 09: 57
                -6
                Quote: Uncle Murzik
                and that the USSR, already being in the war with Germany, also traded with the Nazis, as did the United States? Well, what a "kindergarten" if only, if only!

                Firstly, it was not the United States that traded with Germany, but some companies in the United States. This is not the same thing.
                Secondly, EMNIP, trade was conducted through neutral states.

                My analogy applied to specific companies whose production facilities the Reich used. Nominee owners were not able to influence this process in any way.
                I am more than sure that this analogy is transparent and understandable.

                And equating this with sending a tanker with crude oil is incorrect.
                1. Uncle Murzik
                  Uncle Murzik 6 May 2016 10: 02
                  +3
                  I repeat once again the USSR traded being in the war with Germany? hi
                  1. Mik13
                    Mik13 6 May 2016 10: 19
                    -4
                    Quote: Uncle Murzik
                    I repeat once again the USSR traded being in the war with Germany? hi

                    Uncle Murzik ended arguments and he began to put cons?
                    Funny.
                    Do you disagree with what, dear? Did I write somewhere about the trade of the USSR and Germany during the war?
                    Or do you have a claim to Roosevelt or to Ford? Maybe to Rockefeller? Go to the medium, he will pass on your indignation to the addressees.

                    I wrote to you in white and white that your statement that the owners of production facilities in the Reich had the ability to influence their use is untenable. He gave an example, which even you should understand. What is not clear to you?
                    1. Uncle Murzik
                      Uncle Murzik 6 May 2016 10: 30
                      +2
                      I didn’t see you have more than one normal argument, one verbiage! It turns out that the United States as a state is not responsible for corporations in the USA!
                      1. Mik13
                        Mik13 6 May 2016 12: 10
                        -2
                        Quote: Uncle Murzik
                        I did not see from you not one normal argument, one verbiage!
                        That is, understanding the difference between "did not see" and "did not understand" is also not available to you? Regrettable ...

                        Quote: Uncle Murzik
                        goes the United States as the state is not responsible for the corporation of the United States! gee gee gee
                        Honestly, I have never seen a mention of the responsibility of the state for the actions of corporations in my jurisdiction. If we talk about responsibility, as a legal term.

                        In addition, I consider it necessary to point out to you your incompetence in the matter of relations between US corporations and the Reich, namely:

                        Quote: Uncle Murzik
                        Thus, the powerful Standard Oil regularly supplied the Hitler army with various fuels, and supplied the industry with synthetic rubber and various raw materials. ... The Standard Oil war did not prevent, using British intermediaries, to conclude a contract with I. G. Ferbinidustri ", which allowed the production of aviation gasoline in Germany

                        Standard Oil ceased to exist at 1911, being split into several companies. A controlling stake in each of which belonged to the owner of the former Standard Oil Rockefeller. Which corporation traded with the Reich?

                        Quote: Uncle Murzik
                        Deliveries also went to Italy and Austria.
                        Let's not talk about Italy. But as I recall, from 1938 to 1945, Austria did not exist as a sovereign state and was part of the Third Reich. Has Standard Oil (which of them?) Entered into separate agreements with the Alpine and Danube Reichsgau? Never heard of this ...

                        Quote: Uncle Murzik
                        During World War II, not a single Standard Oil tanker was sunk by German submarines. This is understandable - no one chops the branch on which he sits.

                        But what about Allan Jackson? Belonged to Standard Oil Co of New Jersey, traveling from Columbia to New York with a load of 72,870 barrels of crude oil. 18.01.1942 at 60 km off the coast of North Carolina he was torpedoed by two torpedoes by a U-66 boat (captain Richard Zapp).

                        Maybe you should read something on the topic? A book, for example. I recommend the book is thick, paper and without pictures. Pages on 400-500. Small print.
                        And then the uplifting campaigns in Internet companies with regular abuse extremely negatively affect the intellect.
                      2. Uncle Murzik
                        Uncle Murzik 6 May 2016 13: 22
                        -1
                        I am surprised at your Ukrainian logic, and in other matters! You still did not answer the question! USSR enterprises traded with Germany, being in the war?
                      3. Mik13
                        Mik13 6 May 2016 14: 08
                        -4
                        Quote: Uncle Murzik
                        you have not answered the question! Soviet enterprises traded with Germany, being in the war?

                        Can you read? What does the trade of the Reich and the USSR before 1941 and its absence after have to the essence of the issue under discussion?

                        Quote: Uncle Murzik
                        I am surprised at your Ukrainian logic, but in what other ways!

                        SO!
                        Logic does not happen Ukrainian, Moldavian or English. Logic is such a branch of science. If anything. I already wrote to you - read books.

                        Farther. Regardless of my nationality - I do not consider nationality (any - Ukrainian, Russian, Jew, Buryat or Japanese) a sign that may be an occasion to insult.

                        Quote: Uncle Murzik
                        I didn’t see you have more than one normal argument, one verbiage! It turns out that the United States as a state is not responsible for corporations in the USA!
                        Murzik, in order to use such arguments in a dispute with a man from Donetsk, you need to long and hard to abuse glass.

                        And trying to insult on a national basis due to lack of arguments in a dispute is generally beyond the scope.


                        Therefore:
                        1. I stop communicating with you.
                        2. I intend to inform moderators about your behavior. Let them decide.
                      4. Uncle Murzik
                        Uncle Murzik 6 May 2016 14: 34
                        0
                        drain counted! hiand the flag on ava does not say anything, trolls do so often!
                      5. veteran66
                        veteran66 9 May 2016 08: 54
                        -1
                        Quote: Uncle Murzik
                        drain counted!

                        I recall a quote from the film "Irony of Fate ...": "Well, what a stupid you are!" - so, just a quote
                    2. veteran66
                      veteran66 9 May 2016 08: 54
                      -2
                      Quote: Mik13
                      Murzik, in order to use similar arguments in a dispute with a man from Donetsk,

                      Cool you Murzika face on the table !!! good
                2. Uncle Murzik
                  Uncle Murzik 6 May 2016 13: 42
                  +1
                  something the United States easily impose sanctions against Russian corporations!
                3. veteran66
                  veteran66 9 May 2016 08: 49
                  -2
                  Quote: Mik13
                  Honestly, I have never seen a mention of the responsibility of the state for the actions of corporations in my jurisdiction.

                  it is difficult to explain to some who are captive to Soviet ideologies what a free market is. They do not understand the difference between the states of the USSR and the USA. It's like a pea wall.
                4. Uncle Murzik
                  Uncle Murzik 9 May 2016 14: 21
                  -1
                  a voice came from the garbage dump, and a head appeared! you are also from Donetsk along the way laughing
                5. veteran66
                  veteran66 9 May 2016 19: 55
                  0
                  Quote: Uncle Murzik
                  a voice came from the garbage

                  I was already at school ashamed to use this kindergarten "trick". And why did you get this Donetsk? Yes, from Donetsk, not his hometown, but for a long time he lived and studied there, respectively, relatives and friends there. Not a liberal, a member of the CPSU. Any more questions? Even if you are some kind of murzik, you see I was sick a lot, my mother did not let me go to school.
              2. Uncle Murzik
                Uncle Murzik 9 May 2016 14: 42
                -1
                Well, the liberals always know better! And you, too, supposedly from Donetsk? belay
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      3. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 6 May 2016 19: 12
        -1
        USSR male. Traded.
      4. vadim dok
        vadim dok 6 May 2016 20: 41
        +2
        The Soviet Union traded with Hitler until 1.30:22 on 6.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX. At this time, the last train with oil crossed the USSR border.
      5. veteran66
        veteran66 9 May 2016 08: 46
        -2
        Quote: Uncle Murzik
        Was the USSR trading in the war with Germany?

        at the beginning of the debate, it was about trade between the USSR and Germany, when it was at war with the whole world. Why are these twists? Arguments over?
  • Uncle Murzik
    Uncle Murzik 6 May 2016 10: 19
    +2
    I was shocked to learn that a number of leaders of the largest American corporations before and after Pearl Harbor worked closely with Nazi corporations, including I. G. Farben ”, a colossal Nazi industrial trust that had a hand in everything that happened in Auschwitz (Auschwitz is the concentration camp of Nazi Germany in occupied Poland. The hard labor of prisoners was used to build military industrial enterprises of the Krupp concern in Poland -“ I. G. Farbenindustri. ”Auschwitz killed 4 million citizens of the USSR, Poland, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, France and other countries).
    Representatives of big business formed a kind of community, which I called "fraternity." The members of this “fraternity” had common sources of financing and were members of the same boards of directors of companies and banks. At the international level, their services were National City or Chase National. The interests of the members of the "brotherhood" were defended by Nazi lawyers Gerhard Westrick and Heinrich Albert. Financial and industrial kings were associated with Emil Poole, the largest figure in the Nazi economy, the actual head of Hitler's Reichsbank and the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) (an international financial organization that unites central banks of 30 countries (1975); now it’s European subsidiary body of the International Monetary Fund and the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development).
    Deltsov brought the principle of “business first” closer together. Soldered by reactionary ideology, the members of the "fraternity" made their plans for the future with the expectation of establishing fascist domination!
  • Uncle Murzik
    Uncle Murzik 8 May 2016 06: 28
    +2
    Already during the Nuremberg trials, the former president of the Imperial Bank, Hjalmar Schacht, said in an interview with an American lawyer: “If you want to indict industrialists who helped rearm Germany, you must indict yourself. You will be required to indict the Americans. The Opel automobile plant, for example, did not produce anything other than military products. Your General Motors owned this plant.
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  • alexej123
    alexej123 6 May 2016 14: 59
    +3
    Yes, ITT is an interesting company. If I am not mistaken, she was one of the main lobbyists for the coup in Chile. I read that its SB, at one time, could give a head start to the FBI.
  • veteran66
    veteran66 9 May 2016 08: 40
    -2
    Quote: Uncle Murzik
    the mighty Standard Oil

    Quote: Uncle Murzik
    American ITT conducted its business

    Well?? These are corporations. What does the USA have to do with it? The USA, as a state, introduced laws both directly and indirectly hindering trade with Germany, but the USSR provided direct assistance to Germany in the first years of World War II precisely as a state.
    1. Uncle Murzik
      Uncle Murzik 9 May 2016 14: 36
      +1
      Lend-Lease was not the most disinterested act in the history of mankind ... It was an act of prudent egoism, and the Americans have always clearly understood the benefits that they can derive from it ”
      American historian J. Herring
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 9 May 2016 15: 31
        0
        Quote: Uncle Murzik
        Lend-Lease was not the most disinterested act in the history of mankind ... It was an act of prudent egoism, and the Americans have always clearly understood the benefits that they can derive from it ”
        American historian J. Herring

        - and this is also true. But Lend-Lease and deliveries on it - came then just in time. Dispute?
  • cdznjckfd
    cdznjckfd 6 May 2016 12: 34
    +4
    And they also bought weapons from the Nazis, including the armored cruisers you loved so much. So what?
    1. vadim dok
      vadim dok 6 May 2016 20: 48
      0
      The most shameful thing is that the USSR, producing a very significant amount of oil, did NOT almost produce aviation gas! America supplied the Union with aviation gas and additives to produce from Soviet gasoline brand 78-80 something similar to aviation gas!
      1. Uncle Murzik
        Uncle Murzik 8 May 2016 05: 35
        0
        probably also supplied for free, as an ally! laughing
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 9 May 2016 14: 55
          0
          Quote: Uncle Murzik
          probably also supplied for free, as an ally! laughing

          Colleague, would you still recall the word land-lease or something .. give a beacon:

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease

          Then you can already try to say what and what paid for ..

          PS: tomorrow, 73 years old, as my grandfather, a signalman, was wounded on the Taman Peninsula. Blue line, the village of Kushchevskaya.

          Happy holiday to all hi
          1. Uncle Murzik
            Uncle Murzik 10 May 2016 13: 59
            0
            Happy Holidays too! Check out the cruiser "Edinburgh"
      2. Uncle Murzik
        Uncle Murzik 8 May 2016 06: 26
        +2
        The decree of US President Franklin Roosevelt of December 13, 1941 allowed such transactions and the Americans to conduct business with enemy companies, unless there was a special ban on the US Treasury. American corporations very often and without problems received such permission, supplying formal enemies with much-needed topics such as steel, engines, aviation fuel, rubber, and radio components. The benefit was mutual: warring Germany received the raw materials and goods necessary for its industry, American companies received superprofits from transactions with the enemy. Thus, the American oil monopoly Standard Oil, belonging to the Rockefeller family, which produced, transported, refined oil and marketed petroleum products, regularly supplied Hitler Germany with fuel and synthetic rubber during the war years. Deliveries also went to Italy. At the same time - the most interesting! - In the United States during the war years, there were serious problems with the supply of synthetic rubber for American industry. In the case of Germany, there were no problems.
      3. Uncle Murzik
        Uncle Murzik 8 May 2016 07: 13
        0
        all their supplies were paid for in gold, and with the blood of our soldiers! soldier
        1. veteran66
          veteran66 9 May 2016 08: 57
          -1
          Quote: Uncle Murzik
          all their deliveries are paid in gold

          Can I link to the numbers?
          1. Uncle Murzik
            Uncle Murzik 9 May 2016 14: 24
            -1
            I'm afraid they won’t help! turn to Gozman!
          2. Uncle Murzik
            Uncle Murzik 9 May 2016 14: 44
            0
            “... If we see that Germany wins the war, we should help Russia, and if Russia wins, we should help Germany, and let them kill as much as possible,” US President Harry Truman, 1941 Senator.
            Maybe thanks for that?
            1. veteran66
              veteran66 9 May 2016 20: 03
              0
              in fact, by signing the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, the USSR also hoped for a turn of the war to the west, while helping Germany with raw materials. So what? Regular policy
              1. Uncle Murzik
                Uncle Murzik 10 May 2016 13: 56
                0
                I agree! You don’t have to do this from the raider’s posting, even if it was sensational! This is politics hi
  • qwert
    qwert 6 May 2016 07: 17
    +6
    Quote: Uncle Murzik
    drop the source?

    I seem to guess what kind of source. There is such a book, and the author is a woman. It is artistic, about alternative reality, but presented as documentary. Well, written in that style. At first I myself was seduced, but then compared it with documentary sources and realized that this was not bad science fiction.
    And what was the problem of throwing boats into the Pacific Ocean without the help of the USSR? Why such troubles?
    1. Santa Fe
      Santa Fe 6 May 2016 07: 24
      -1
      Quote: qwert
      I guess I guess what the source is. There is such a book, and the author is a woman. It is artistic, about alternate reality, but presented as a documentary.


      There is no book. There is a German auxiliary cruiser "Koomet" (German Komet). The Kriegsmarine Operational Code HSK-7, in the UK Navy, was designated as "Raider" B ".

      Under the command of captain tsurze Robert Eissen, the ship 3 left July Gotnhafen 1940 on the evening of July and, accompanied by escort forces, headed through the Danish straits along the coast of Norway to the north. July 6 arrived in Kristiansand, where it refueled with fuel, fresh water and waited for the alarm caused by the appearance of British warships west of Skagerrak.

      Crossing the Northern Sea Route

      The Soviet leadership agreed to escort the cruiser only after lengthy negotiations with the German side. Despite the previously signed Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact (1939) and the confidential agreement on trade cooperation (1940), the Soviet leadership wanted to keep a neutral appearance and therefore paid great attention to the secrecy of the operation.

      Disguised as a Soviet icebreaking ship Semen Dezhnev, the ship skirted the North Cape and reached the area north of Kolguev Island. There, being engaged in combat training of the crew and hydrographic research, for some time waited for the approach of the Soviet ships that were to accompany him on the next stretch of the path (the neutral at that time the Soviet Union agreed to secretly help “Komet” to go along the northern coast of Russia along the Northern Sea Route).
      Yes, and what was the problem to transfer the boat into the Pacific Ocean without the help of the USSR?

      British warships
      1. Uncle Murzik
        Uncle Murzik 6 May 2016 07: 27
        0
        so give all the same the link?
        1. Santa Fe
          Santa Fe 6 May 2016 07: 34
          0
          http://topwar.ru/328-mify-i-pravda-o-polyarnyx-poxodax-krigsmarine.html
          1. Uncle Murzik
            Uncle Murzik 6 May 2016 07: 41
            +7
            But most of the myths were about the German comet raider Komet being posted by the Northern Sea Route to the Far East in August 1940. And in this case, the USSR also did not violate neutrality, because the raider on the ship documents was considered a merchant ship, and the artillery was dismantled and hidden in the holds even before coming to Murmansk! laughing
            1. Santa Fe
              Santa Fe 6 May 2016 07: 46
              -2
              Quote: Uncle Murzik
              something like this from your source

              Are you convinced that the described case is true?

              A raider could be listed even whaling schooner, essentially it does not change. And how could they dismantle torpedo tubes and hide guns in 152 mm holds, and most importantly - why

              The Germans simply disguised their shields
              1. Uncle Murzik
                Uncle Murzik 6 May 2016 08: 00
                +5
                Finally, about the notorious "Base" Nord ", allegedly built by the Germans with the consent of the USSR, near Murmansk, from where German submarines in 1939-1940s went to sink English ships. So this base, and even nothing like it, simply did not exist, except in the writings of dissidents-revisionists like Alexander Nekrich and sensational books in the spirit of "Arctic secrets of the Third Reich." the article clearly says "myth", but "in this case"! it does not mean that it is true!
              2. Amurets
                Amurets 6 May 2016 08: 31
                +1
                Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                Quote: Uncle Murzik
                something like this from your source

                Are you convinced that the described case is true?

                A raider could be listed even whaling schooner, essentially it does not change. And how could they dismantle torpedo tubes and hide guns in 152 mm holds, and most importantly - why

                The Germans simply disguised their shields

                Here are more links to the comet raider theme.http: //australiarussia.com/raiderKOMET.html
                http://www.tinlib.ru/istorija/arkticheskie_tainy_tretego_reiha/index.php
                But besides the raider Komet, there were also raiders. See I. Bunich. "Pirates of the Fuhrer".
                And this is probably the most complete study about the auxiliary cruisers in Germany: Galynia "Hitler's Raiders. The auxiliary cruisers of the Kriegsmarine".
                http://mexalib.com/view/163002
                1. Uncle Murzik
                  Uncle Murzik 6 May 2016 08: 45
                  +2
                  Well, I especially believe Bunich, a dissident, supposedly a writer! Give me another link to Gozman! laughing
                  1. Amurets
                    Amurets 6 May 2016 09: 48
                    +1
                    Quote: Uncle Murzik
                    Well, I especially believe Bunich, a dissident, supposedly a writer! Give me another link to Gozman!

                    Well, you can believe Bunich, you can not. I myself do not trust him much. But Galynya and Kovalev, quite serious writers. Kovalev has several books about the war in the Arctic.
                    1. Uncle Murzik
                      Uncle Murzik 6 May 2016 10: 04
                      +2
                      here I am about that, for example, SHALIN has no serious sources other than imagination and speculation!
              3. Wheel
                Wheel 7 May 2016 10: 26
                +2
                Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                Are you convinced that the described case is true?

                The article is embossed with a magazine, real facts and documents have not yet been given.
            2. veteran66
              veteran66 9 May 2016 09: 01
              -1
              Quote: Uncle Murzik
              and the artillery was dismantled and hidden in the holds even before coming to Murmansk!

              and the "stupid" Soviet Chekists fell for it, yeah ...
              Quote: Uncle Murzik
              And in this case, the USSR also did not violate neutrality.

              and American concerns also did not declare war on Germany
      2. Movie.43
        Movie.43 6 May 2016 07: 59
        +7
        The Northern Sea Route is not the territorial waters of the USSR, which the USSR also had the right not to close

        In World War II, Japanese diplomats calmly traveled through the territory of the USSR, and then through Turkey to Berlin.

        the Germans could well have passed the Northern Sea Route themselves - there in the 20s and 30s their airships flew which made detailed maps of the Arctic, which by the way were not transferred to the Soviet government ...
        1. Verdun
          Verdun 6 May 2016 10: 54
          +4
          the Germans could well pass the Northern Sea Route themselves
          And so they went on. My father's friend spent the whole war on the destroyer "Karl Liebknecht". He unambiguously claimed that during the Second World War, German raiders repeatedly passed the Northern Sea Route. But our fleet, as a rule, learned about this from the reports of the workers of meteorological stations and local residents, when it was too late to do something. I believe that "Komet" is simply the most famous, so he is given as an example. He acted as a kind of scout and was able to share data about the route traveled with those who followed him.
        2. Wheel
          Wheel 7 May 2016 10: 33
          +3
          Quote: Movie.43
          The Northern Sea Route is not the territorial waters of the USSR, which the USSR also had the right not to close

          By a decree of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR of 1926, the entire territory from the north pole to the mainland of the USSR, limited by meridians, was declared the territory of the USSR. Prior to Russia's accession to the Convention on the Law of the Sea in 97, this entire sector of the Arctic was considered the territorial waters of the USSR / Russia.
          Quote: Movie.43
          In World War II, Japanese diplomats calmly traveled through the territory of the USSR, and then through Turkey to Berlin.
          The USSR was not at war with either Japan or Turkey.
          What's wrong?
          1. Papandopulo
            Papandopulo 10 May 2016 11: 40
            0
            The water area is not a territory, therefore - no, it only concerned land areas that fell into the sector.
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  • parusnik
    parusnik 6 May 2016 07: 39
    +4
    Thank you, the author .. A very interesting episode .. In fact, "Ashgabat" almost made a trip around the world ...
  • qwert
    qwert 6 May 2016 08: 11
    +10
    Quote: Uncle Murzik
    And in this case, the USSR also did not violate neutrality, because the raider on the ship documents was considered a merchant ship, and the artillery was dismantled and hidden in the holds even before coming to Murmansk!

    Well, this is a completely different matter. Moreover, the cruiser was auxiliary, i.e. it was an armed steamboat. So, at the request of the Germans, we led the German ship along the Northern Route. Which, as it turned out, was carrying artillery pieces in the holds. Once in the Pacific Ocean, the Germans installed guns on the parachute, turning it into an auxiliary cruiser to drive American transports (or rather English, because why on earth would they drive Americans in 1939?).

    And how does this give us the respected SWEET_SIXTEEN? : The insidious and short-sighted Stalin is piloting the German cruiser by the Northern route, so that he could harm the future allies of the Soviet Union. Moreover, such a detail is also added (obviously unrealistic, because there was nothing to bother with. The British had no time to drive a lone ship into the Laptev Sea):Disguised as a Soviet icebreaking ship "Semyon Dezhnev"the ship circled the cape The history is overgrown with details, espionage passions, to attract the interest of the layman. This is how the Soviet Union is demonized by modern "historians" so that it can be put on a par with Hitler's Germany.
    By the way, as they say, guns and torpedo tubes were mounted on the AUXILIARY cruiser in Japanese Nagasaki. So there were no problems to get and mount
    1. Uncle Murzik
      Uncle Murzik 6 May 2016 08: 15
      +6
      I agree at 100%! when you start digging into the sources you immediately understand where the legs are growing from!
    2. Santa Fe
      Santa Fe 6 May 2016 09: 14
      -9
      Quote: qwert
      Stalin navigates the northern route of the German cruiser.

      Yes, these are the facts.

      Why and for what - argue on health
      Quote: qwert
      Which, as it turned out, carried artillery guns in the holds. Once in the Pacific, the Germans installed guns on a parade, turning it into an auxiliary cruiser.

      Edward, just think. Think it over

      and then write and draw conclusions

      1. How can you shoot and remove the 152 mm guns in the hold as you go? how much such artillery systems weigh. And the same multi-ton TA

      2. Why do you need to remove and hide tools somewhere, if you can close them with shields
      The Soviet representatives on board did not care, the USSR was initially aware of the essence of the operation. And got for it 950 th. Reichsmark
      Quote: qwert
      Disguised as a Soviet icebreaking ship "Semyon Dezhnev"

      USSR wanted to maintain neutrality

      Because the German warship was disguised as a Soviet ship
      Quote: qwert
      By the way, as they say, guns and torpedo tubes were mounted on the SUBSIDIARY cruiser in the Japanese Nagasaki.

      They write in chalk on the fence.

      The sources are no mention of the fact that the raider went to Nagasaki. That you came up with yourself
      1. Uncle Murzik
        Uncle Murzik 6 May 2016 09: 42
        +3
        you did not name more than one normal source! The nonsense of dissidents does not interest me! belayyou really weren’t when you weren’t on the ship?
        1. Santa Fe
          Santa Fe 6 May 2016 10: 26
          -7
          Quote: Uncle Murzik
          You did not call not one normal source!

          Do you have that there is no Yandex?

          enter "cruiser Comets" - and read on your health. Everyone who is interested in maritime history knows about this case.
          1. Uncle Murzik
            Uncle Murzik 6 May 2016 10: 37
            +3
            so that's where the legs grow! Wikipedia laughingno reason, there is even the "echo of Moscow" source there !!!
            1. Amurets
              Amurets 6 May 2016 12: 34
              +1
              Quote: Uncle Murzik
              and so this is where the legs grow from! Wikipedia laughing, there is nothing to itself, there is even the "echo of Moscow" source !!! I am lying

              And what is only Wikipedia in Yandex? I dropped links from Yandex, I’m more familiar with it, since I have Lisa with a browser, but in principle you can put any search engine in Lisa. Here are links to dissidents.
              http://keu-ocr.narod.ru/Komet
              http://australiarussia.com/raiderKOMET.html
              http://maxpark.com/community/4169/content/2863192
            2. Heimdall47
              Heimdall47 6 May 2016 16: 29
              -1
              Quote: Uncle Murzik
              so that's where the legs grow! Wikipedia laughingno reason, there is even the "echo of Moscow" source there !!!

              You, uncle, can’t prove anything at least on your head.
            3. Papandopulo
              Papandopulo 11 May 2016 11: 08
              -1
              The Wikipedia article in Russian about it over the past XNUMX hours has been fundamentally redone, and has become even gentler than the English
              I wonder who it could be? bully
    3. Papandopulo
      Papandopulo 11 May 2016 09: 50
      -1
      German transport passed disguised as "Semyon Dezhnev" only along the coast of Norway, German raiders often disguised themselves as Soviet merchant ships in the Atlantic, as well as Japanese in the Pacific and Indian Oceans

      This transport went along the Northern Sea Route as part of the convoy under the quite German name "Donau".
      In the raider, he was redone only in the Pacific Ocean.
  • Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 6 May 2016 09: 10
    +3
    good article . I read it with pleasure ...... another page of history ....... Thank you!
  • VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 6 May 2016 12: 20
    +5
    Perhaps it should be said that the steamship "Ashgabat" was sunk by the German submarine U-402
    Brief performance characteristics of Ashgabat:
    The steamboat “Ashgabat” (USSR, built in 1917) was sunk by U-402 submarines on 29.04.42 (5284 brt, 122,15x15,93x8,69 m, 11 knots)
  • cdznjckfd
    cdznjckfd 6 May 2016 12: 28
    +3
    And the Red Guard still went to the Far East in the 70s.
  • qwert
    qwert 6 May 2016 15: 49
    +7
    Somehow they forgot with this Comet that the article was about Ashgabat and about the famous captain of the civil fleet Yaskevich. Neither Ashgabat nor Yaskevich have comets to the German auxiliary cruiser.


    However, since there is a dispute, I’ll clarify that in 1939 we carried out the Ems merchant ship, which was built in Bremen by the Deshimag company for the Severoermansky Lloyd. Launched on 16 January 1937 year. It was one of the vessels of a series of dry cargo vessels (four vessels of the same type - “Drau”, “Ayder”, “Iller” and “Muir”, and two semi-sisterships, “Saar” and “Memel”). After mounting several guns on a dry cargo ship, he was called the auxiliary comet cruiser. And here is a photo of this terrible German raider. By the way, if the ship is carried out in neutral waters, are we entitled to rummage around another ship, conducting searches and wondering what you have covered with shields. And if they tell us that there is additional coal poured there, can we demand to tear off the shields on the ship of a foreign country going in neutral waters. If not, then where does Stalin ?????
    1. Santa Fe
      Santa Fe 7 May 2016 02: 41
      -2
      Quote: qwert
      in 1939, we conducted the merchant ship "Ems"

      Not in 1939, but in September 1940
      Not a merchant ship, but the Kriegsmarine warship HKS-7 Komet, aka, according to British intelligence, "Raider B"
      Quote: qwert
      After installation on the cargo ship several guns

      main caliber 6 x 152 mm
      universal 1 x 75
      antiaircraft 2 paired 37 mm, 4 20 mm erlikon
      2 twin TA on deck and 2 traverse TA, 24 torpedo ammunition
      30 sea mines
      reconnaissance plane Arado-196
      torpedo boat LS2 type "Meteorite"

      Something too much for a "peaceful huckster"?

      further, from the testimony of pilots and Soviet representatives on board:
      "Komet" had an armored bridge, a radio center - a change of 6 radio operators + a communications officer, and a whole set of camouflage equipment: fake folding pipes, add-on sides, cargo arrows

      Crew -270 people, 10 times more than the merchant ship
      Quote: qwert
      And here is a photo of this terrible German raider.

      10 ships sunk, sent 42 000 tons of various cargoes to the bottom

      The commander of the Comet, Captain Tsurze Eissen, was promoted to rear admiral during the raid. (Probably, this was an assessment of the importance of not only the raid itself, but also the conducted hydrographic survey along the Northern Sea Route).
      Quote: qwert
      By the way, if the ship is held in neutral waters,

      Wiring on the SMP necessarily agreed with Moscow
      exclusive space of the USSR

      The Northern Sea Route was open to international shipping only in 1991, after the collapse of the USSR.
      Quote: qwert
      And if we are told that additional coal is poured there, can we request to tear off the shields on a ship of a foreign country going in neutral waters?

      “In view of the military nature of the German steamer, bring him back west with one of the icebreakers of your choice. Lightning his position twice a day. Radiating the performance. ”
      - radiogram of the head of the Northern Sea Route of the famous polar explorer Ivan Papanin, August 25 1940

      However, the decision was made at the highest level. Papanin's attempts to suspend the wiring were unsuccessful.
      1. Uncle Murzik
        Uncle Murzik 8 May 2016 14: 24
        0
        Wikipedia rules! belay
      2. faiver
        faiver 9 May 2016 12: 13
        +1
        I can not understand - what's the problem? Yes, ours had comets along the Northern Sea Route, an ordinary commercial enterprise, the USSR did not fight with Germany at that time, the British did not count as friends with the USSR. What is the problem? What's bad about it? almost a million German money earned, and where are the games of dictators? and it is still difficult to call a merchant ship converted for military anyway a full-fledged military ship, by the way, will you not show in the photo where there are six 15cm guns installed? well, or at least the shields behind which these guns are hidden? :)
        1. Santa Fe
          Santa Fe 10 May 2016 06: 29
          -1
          Quote: faiver
          what is the problem?

          Military cooperation with Nazi Germany
          Quote: faiver
          ordinary business enterprise

          Expedition special purpose (EON) with the participation of three icebreakers, with the disguise of a German under the Soviet ship, held in the strictest confidence, like any military operation
          Quote: faiver
          the Soviet Union with Germany at the time did not fight, the British were not friends with the Soviet Union

          The USSR was considered neutral, but cooperated and supported the fascists.
          Quote: faiver
          and a merchant ship converted for military is still difficult to call a full-fledged military ship

          Gone around the world with fights, sinking dozens of ships
          Quote: faiver
          By the way, won't you show on the photo where there are six 15cm guns installed?

          with shelling angles
          1. Papandopulo
            Papandopulo 10 May 2016 07: 23
            +2
            It was a German merchant ship, "Bad USSR" bought a lot of things from Germany, because it was under an embargo from the United States, England and France.

            Your good USA collaborated with the Nazis, supplying them through neutral countries with strategic materials until the very end of the war, and bombing only their civilians.
            The USSR was neutral until June 1941, and was considered neutral, even after December 11, 1941, the USA.

            They converted it into a raider "with firing angles" later in Japan in Nagasaki, probably for this later it was also a "well-deserved punishment"?
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          3. faiver
            faiver 10 May 2016 11: 41
            +2
            firstly, he sank not dozens, but only ten ships, while alone only three, with your scheme something is not right at all, better double-check. in terms of disguise, as I understand it, it was the condition of the Germans, they pay, they order the music, I don’t see any problems in this and there are no "games of dictators" either :)
            in terms of cooperation with Nazi Germany, and who did not cooperate with it? England and France before the declaration of war or the Americans? :) funny to read such arguments :)
            1. faiver
              faiver 10 May 2016 12: 53
              0
              according to the scheme the question is removed
            2. Papandopulo
              Papandopulo 11 May 2016 10: 05
              +1
              There was no camouflage during the passage of the Northern Sea Route. It was a German transport called "Donau".

              Prior to the Northern Sea Route, it was disguised as the ship was sailing along the coast of Norway, German raiders often disguised themselves as Soviet merchant ships in the Atlantic, as well as Japanese in the Pacific and Indian Oceans

              It was converted into a raider only in the Pacific Ocean. And decorated with Japanese flags under the name "Manyo Maru".
  • qwert
    qwert 10 May 2016 09: 46
    +2
    Quote: Papandopulo
    it was a German merchant ship, "Bad USSR" bought a lot of things from Germany, because it was under an embargo from the United States, England and France.

    About that and speech. They themselves have pushed us to cooperate with Germany, and now blame? With what a breakdown should Stalin think of the USA, England and France, and not about his country? And they did the right thing, that they traded with the Germans. How much the German industry didn’t receive machines and unique equipment like heavy-duty presses, on which we later made stamped towers for the T-34. There should be a double count. Each machine from Germany, these are two machines plus in our industry relative to German, because the Germans did not receive this machine. Here he is the contribution of Germany to our victory. And here they urge us to be ashamed of what we thought about our defense, and not about the British and Americans
    1. Papandopulo
      Papandopulo 11 May 2016 09: 38
      +1
      The topic is that after 1937 there was trade and not cooperation, and since 1939 it was very limited. In 1937-38, even it was practically nonexistent. Before that, they collaborated with the Nazis under the Trotskyists.