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REN TV announces a collision of Russian and Polish submarines in the Baltic Sea

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TV channel REN TV reports that in the Baltic Sea two submarines collided with each other - the Russian submarine Krasnodar and the Polish Orzel. According to some reports, the incident occurred a few days ago a few nautical miles from the Pilous Peninsula.


REN TV announces a collision of Russian and Polish submarines in the Baltic Sea


The source reports that the Russian submarine did not receive serious damage as a result of the collision and independently reached the naval base on the surface. The Polish submarine received significant damage, and after the ascent, it was necessary to use a tug to deliver a submarine to the Polish shores.

There were no official comments on the collision of Krasnodar and the Polish Orzel submarine from the management of the press service and information of the Russian Ministry of Defense.

Some questions are raised by the mentioned name of the Polish submarine. The fact is that Orzel submarines are a type of submarine that is built on the basis of Dutch O16 submarines. The construction of submarines for the Polish Navy was handled by the Dutch shipyard De Schelde (Rotterdam). A submarine of the same name sank during World War II. And another submarine of the Polish Navy of the same type - "Senp" was decommissioned fleet in the late 60s.

However, there is a more modern version of the boats with the same name - submarines of Soviet manufacture. One of them entered service with the Polish Navy in the 1986 year (project 877E).
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  1. Igor39
    Igor39 April 28 2016 16: 26
    +25
    Ren TV ah ha ha laughing
    1. RUSOIVAN
      RUSOIVAN April 28 2016 16: 28
      +21
      At the battle of psychics, the participants had a vision!)
      1. alex-defensor
        alex-defensor April 28 2016 20: 26
        +1
        Neighing !!! especially when you consider what kind of boats Orzel and Pilausky Island are!
      2. nadezhiva
        nadezhiva April 28 2016 22: 14
        0
        And at least someone could find this news on the ren tv site? The link hung in the afternoon, but when entering the site, this nonsense categorically did not want to be on any request wink
    2. Michael67
      Michael67 April 28 2016 16: 29
      +6
      For not fucking!
    3. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov April 28 2016 16: 32
      +26
      Looks like I know who was spinning around there:
    4. vlad66
      vlad66 April 28 2016 16: 34
      +13
      Quote: Igor39
      Ren TV ah ha ha laughing

      Well, don't give a shit to yourself, although the REN TV channel is like this: - "They have dogs barking, then the ruins are talking." request
    5. lukke
      lukke April 28 2016 16: 46
      +34
      Ren TV ah ha ha laughing
      I will only believe if they confirm on TV-3!
      1. Eragon
        Eragon April 28 2016 17: 22
        0
        Quote: lukke
        I will only believe if they confirm on TV-3!

        Both fortuneteller and blind at the same time laughing
        We are waiting, sir.
      2. WKS
        WKS April 28 2016 17: 24
        +1
        Most likely bullshit. The Pilaus peninsula is the territory of Russia 12 nautical miles from it is the territorial waters of Russia. The article says "several nautical miles from the Pilaus peninsula." How much is this?
        1. renics
          renics April 28 2016 21: 03
          0
          The Poles in their newspapers deny this clash and the press secretary of the Polish National Ministry of Defense on Twitter, Bartholomew Mizievich. I deny this information to Interfax. There were no collisions between ships PL and RUS. This is Ros.Propaganda looking for problems where they do not exist. Https: //twitter.com/MisiewiczB
        2. Ivan_ich
          Ivan_ich April 28 2016 21: 04
          +1
          Quote: wks
          Most likely bullshit. The Pilaus peninsula is the territory of Russia 12 nautical miles from it is the territorial waters of Russia. The article says "several nautical miles from the Pilaus peninsula." How much is this?

          Apparently there was a "... unsafe and unprofessional ..." interception of a Polish submarine ... wassat Let them say thanks for not feeding sprats.
      3. Orionvit
        Orionvit April 28 2016 19: 30
        0
        In light of the tensions between the Baltic countries and Russia, I think a cry from the "tigers" would have been enough.
      4. The comment was deleted.
      5. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 April 28 2016 21: 03
        0
        request
        The Polish Ministry of Defense has denied the clash of Russian and Polish submarines
        http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/3247870
        ******
        bully
        REN TV deleted news about submarine clash in the Baltic Sea
        http://polit.ru/news/2016/04/28/submarines/
        1. opus
          opus April 29 2016 02: 00
          +1
          Quote: Dryuya2
          REN TV deleted news about submarine clash in the Baltic Sea

          A spokesman for the Russian Navy said that there was no collision between Russian and Polish submarines in the Baltic Sea. Earlier, the media reported that the alleged Russian submarine "Krasnodar" collided with the Polish submarine "Orzel", but the incident, allegedly, did not go without serious damage.

          At the same time, the Navy added that on April 20 there was a certain naval accident with a submarine, but she safely returned to the base in Baltiysk

          Quote: alex-defensor
          especially when you consider what kind of boats Orzel and Pilausky Island are!

          "Ozhel" is the only Polish submarine inherited from this country from Soviet times. This is a Project 877E diesel submarine, which entered Poland in 1986. The vessel is armed with 6 torpedo tubes of 533 mm caliber, up to 18 torpedoes or 24 mines.

          ORP Orzeł “Oryol” Pennant No. 291


          Pilausky Peninsula


          Not any
          Quote: wks
          this is the territory of Russia 12 nautical miles from it is the territorial waters of Russia

          there can’t be 12 miles from him
    6. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets April 28 2016 16: 54
      +18
      Quote: Igor39
      Ren TV ah ha ha

      Nothing funny, the last time an interstellar interceptor collided with a chariot of hyperboreans. winked
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    8. RUSS
      RUSS April 28 2016 17: 01
      +2
      Quote: Igor39
      Ren TV ah ha ha laughing

      Interfax reports.
      Russian and Polish submarines collided off the coast of the Pillau Peninsula in the Baltic Sea, Interfax reports. The incident happened a few days ago.

      The Russian submarine "Krasnodar" did not receive significant damage, after surfacing it went to the base. But the Polish Ozel had to be towed from the scene of the collision.

      The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has not yet commented on what has happened
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets April 28 2016 17: 06
        +2
        Quote: RUSS
        Interfax reports.
        Russian and Polish submarines collided off the coast of the Pillau Peninsula in the Baltic Sea, Interfax reports.

        They all refer to RenTV. yes
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets April 28 2016 17: 41
          +2
          Judging by the minus, RenTV and VO employees are. laughing
          1. EvgNik
            EvgNik April 28 2016 18: 46
            +6
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Judging by the minus, RenTV and VO employees are

            Judging by the downsides to almost all articles on VO, there are everything up to the State Department and the CIA. And all sorts of "rains" and "echoes" are instructed by the State Department to monitor the opinion of the Russians. And where is it better to do it if not on our website? Not on their own.
        2. Lelek
          Lelek April 28 2016 19: 20
          +1
          Quote: Vladimirets
          They all refer to RenTV.


          Is it not our Igor, you know, Prokopenko - a great oracle and a painter? bully
    9. Juborg
      Juborg April 28 2016 17: 28
      +2
      We have REN TV, the latest news mouthpiece ?! Campaign PR and pretty dirty.
    10. Consul-t
      Consul-t April 28 2016 17: 37
      +2
      Duc seems to be not the first of April, although in April.
      What, now April will be foolproof all month?
    11. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris April 28 2016 21: 25
      0
      They have a chief alien there, so nothing unusual
  2. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov April 28 2016 16: 27
    +15
    if true, we will soon read in the Polish press that the clash was near Warsaw, the Russians tried to land and kill all Polish sailors as witnesses, but those with heavy losses for the enemy fought off with sabers.
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    2. PKK
      PKK April 28 2016 16: 34
      +1
      Psheks are bad people, spoiling our property. It is imperative to force Poland to unite. Let them fork out.
      1. sgazeev
        sgazeev April 28 2016 16: 56
        +2
        Quote: PKK
        Some questions are raised by the mentioned name of the Polish submarine. The fact is that the Orzel submarines are a type of submarine built on the basis of the Dutch O16 type submarines. The Dutch shipyard De Schelde (Rotterdam) was involved in the construction of submarines for the Polish Navy. The submarine of the same name sank during the Second World War.



        Nothing changes, the boat is the same, but the times are different. It has already rotted, and the other is in a hurry to replace. recourse
  3. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 28 2016 16: 27
    +1
    This is the Poles of the Americans. To break off both their horns and legs. soldier
  4. svp67
    svp67 April 28 2016 16: 28
    +4
    Here it is the collision of "black holes"
    1. Mikado
      Mikado April 28 2016 17: 31
      +2
      In America, they speak more politically. Not "Black Hole, but Afrohole" laughing That’s me, I’m a schmuck!
  5. igorra
    igorra April 28 2016 16: 28
    +5
    Nonsense, the Poles would have trumpeted in a minute that the Russian boat had been caught in the waters of Poland, but thanks to the brave actions of the Polish submariners it was driven out of territorial waters.
    1. amirbek
      amirbek April 29 2016 06: 09
      0
      Quote: igorra
      but thanks to the courageous actions of Polish submariners was expelled from territorial waters.

      it’s good that they still didn’t encounter mines of the 40s when they surfaced smile
  6. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov April 28 2016 16: 29
    +6
    from RENTV it always smelled like aliens or inhabitants of Atlantis so that they may well concoct a fake, because they still have Hitler in the ice base in Antarctica smile
    1. sgazeev
      sgazeev April 28 2016 17: 08
      0
      Quote: Denis Obukhov
      REN TV announces a collision of Russian and Polish submarines in the Baltic Sea

      REN TV deleted news about the clash of Russian and Polish submarines
      RBC - 38 minutes ago
      The REN TV channel removed news from its website about the collision of a Russian submarine with the Polish submarine Orzeł (Ozhel). The link, which previously had access to the news with the headline "Russian and Polish submarines collided in the Baltic Sea," now leads to ...

      The Navy has denied reports of a clash of Russian and Polish submarines
      RIA Novosti - 26 minutes ago
      MOSCOW, April 28 - RIA Novosti. The submarine "Krasnodar" of the Baltic Fleet did not collide with a Polish submarine in the Baltic Sea, a senior Russian Navy official told RIA Novosti on Thursday. Earlier media reports referring to ...
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      2. RUSS
        RUSS April 28 2016 18: 30
        0
        Quote: sgazeev
        REN TV deleted news about the clash of Russian and Polish submarines

        The official representative of the Polish Ministry of Defense Bartolomei Misevich denied information from some Russian media that the Russian submarine collided with the Polish, Radio Poland reported on Thursday, April 28.

        “There was no collision between the Russian and Polish ships. This is Russian propaganda looking for problems where they do not exist, ”said the representative of the Polish Ministry of Defense.

        He added that the Polish submarine Orzel had not left Gdansk Bay in the Baltic Sea for several days.

        The collision was also denied by a senior representative of the Russian Navy, RIA Novosti reported. He noted that there was no collision, but on April 20 a navigational accident occurred with a Russian submarine, after which she safely returned to Baltiysk.
  7. Monos
    Monos April 28 2016 16: 29
    +5
    Shlyahtichi to ram, or something, let's go? A submarine firewall is something new. Such junk can only be used in such quality. Surely Ukrainians with cookies inside were sitting.
  8. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ April 28 2016 16: 29
    +3
    Where are you, Polish "teapots" climbing? Now swim like this always, behind the tug.
    1. sgazeev
      sgazeev April 28 2016 17: 04
      +4
      Quote: LÄRZ
      Where are you, Polish "teapots" climbing? Now swim like this always, behind the tug.

      They came too close to Baltiysk (Pillau Peninsula).
      1. LÄRZ
        LÄRZ April 28 2016 18: 03
        +1
        Quote: sgazeev
        They came too close to Baltiysk (Pillau Peninsula).

        And the Poles thought it was all so simple, surveillance at sea. Let them train on cats, and then at sea. Frankly, for the first time I learned about some actions of Polish submarines.
  9. iouris
    iouris April 28 2016 16: 30
    +2
    What, their torpedoes are over?
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 28 2016 16: 51
      +1
      Quote: iouris
      What, their torpedoes are over?

      These brave Polish sailors with halo-checkers rushed to our boat ... it didn’t work
  10. EvgNik
    EvgNik April 28 2016 16: 32
    +1
    A strange case. How could this happen in our time? Are there submariners on the net? Explain whether this could have happened or not.
    1. RUSOIVAN
      RUSOIVAN April 28 2016 17: 51
      +3
      I explain: it could and periodically happens!
  11. NDR-791
    NDR-791 April 28 2016 16: 32
    +5
    A submarine of the same name sank during World War II
    She did not drown, but was drowned by the British by mistake. Well, the Poles are not lucky for sea eagles, it's time to understand already, but ambition does not allow. And so in the shallow Baltic, boats can collide only if one is standing idle, and the other is in passive mode. So maybe the Poles were already without a move in the accident and could not even dodge. And ours, as far as I know, since Soviet times, have been prohibited from driving GAS in an active mode for no reason without reason. Maybe of course I'm wrong, but it looks like ours stumbled upon a deliberate "log".
  12. Engineer
    Engineer April 28 2016 16: 33
    +2
    Very reliable source. We must also look at the news Echo, RBC and Rain.
    1. avt
      avt April 28 2016 16: 52
      +3
      Quote: Engineer
      Very reliable source.

      Fucking! I read it
      Some questions are raised by the mentioned name of the Polish submarine. The fact is that the Orzel submarines are a type of submarine built on the basis of the Dutch O16 type submarines.
      and I realized - a real submariner wrote under vodka! wassat It was the leader of the Glandian sub-builders who developed and embodied the project 877E in metal wassatAnd of course she encountered Dmitry Donskoy in the waters of Sweden .... or Switzerland?wassat
      However, there is a more modern version of the boats with the same name - submarines of Soviet manufacture. One of them entered service with the Polish Navy in the 1986 year (project 877E).
      Interesting ! And how is this ONE in the Polish Navy call names ?? laughing
  13. drop
    drop April 28 2016 16: 34
    +3
    Psheki have always been "excellent sailors". Yes, the Polish submarine must go only for a tug and accompanied by cavalry. I have the honor.
  14. AlexTires
    AlexTires April 28 2016 16: 39
    +1
    There is too much news about military incidents: the media reported the interception of an American reconnaissance aircraft in the Kamchatka region
    http://www.tvc.ru/news/show/id/91362/
    1. andranick
      andranick April 28 2016 16: 56
      +2
      Quote: AlexTires
      There is too much news about military incidents: the media reported the interception of an American reconnaissance aircraft in the Kamchatka region

      This is only an incident in the media, but finally normal combat work
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 April 28 2016 17: 11
        0
        Oh, I agree absolutely. Sometimes the notorious publicity becomes straight over the edge. Especially when you need to shut up something else or simply increase the rating.
  15. Bort radist
    Bort radist April 28 2016 16: 41
    +2
    Christ, forgive the Lord. Who has not cracked the shell for a whole year, luck and family is stronger.
  16. Historian
    Historian April 28 2016 16: 44
    +5
    That's how we learned about the existence of the Polish submarine fleet! :-)
    1. Baloo
      Baloo April 28 2016 17: 04
      +2
      That's how we learned about the existence of the Polish submarine fleet! :
      Grandson said: I have fun bully
      Well, for the Russian Ministry of Finance! drinks
  17. 1536
    1536 April 28 2016 16: 46
    +1
    What is this giant sprat floating in the waters of the Baltic? It will be seen by the proud Baltic peoples, or it will attack the Poles. Perhaps it is necessary to convene a conference of the Baltic states to solve this problem? Or, simply, to declare Baltika beer a sanctioned product for Polish "comrades"?
  18. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf April 28 2016 16: 53
    +8
    Ren TV reported a clash of Russian and Polish submarines ...
    Echo of Moscow added - Putin was driving the Russian boat!
    Poroshenko added, on the Polish boat were Ukrainian tourists.
    Estonian radio did not say anything .... They haven’t heard yet!
  19. Aristide
    Aristide April 28 2016 16: 57
    +1
    In short, there is no exact information yet who was butted by the Russian submarine? Perhaps this is the "Flying" Dutchman !?
  20. semuil
    semuil April 28 2016 16: 59
    +2
    I remembered the old joke: the 600th crashed into a tractor. The traffic cop who arrived asked the tractor driver: -Well, tell me how you overtook, how you cut it?
  21. Dezinto
    Dezinto April 28 2016 17: 01
    +15
    Well, I don’t know ... there is no evidence yet, I recall who the director of REN-TV is, rare shots:







    And maybe that's why Ren-TV knows more than ordinary earthlings ??? belay
    1. Baloo
      Baloo April 28 2016 17: 16
      +4
      Very similar to the captain of a Polish submarine. wink
      1. Dezinto
        Dezinto April 28 2016 17: 22
        +6
        Very similar to the captain of a Polish submarine


        Ah, that's how everything is famously twisted !. The director of ren-tv and the commander of the Polish submarine is one creature !! And all this to divert attention from suspicious noises at the bottom of the Baltic Sea, where a portal is being built for contact with Nibiru, where the legions of the great cthulhu should come from! But still, Atlantis confuses all the cards! - and uses combat flounders to disrupt the entire project ... because they have long disliked each other with the planet Nibiru.
        wassat drinks

        Clearly understood. maybe the Kremlin is in the know. But shh - I didn't say that!

        The door is already knocking ........ belay
  22. JonnyT
    JonnyT April 28 2016 17: 02
    +2
    Submarines of reptilians and holy Russians collided near Nibiru (c) Ren-Tv
  23. Valter1364
    Valter1364 April 28 2016 17: 06
    +1
    Before you believe the information from REN-TV, do not forget to turn into a white sheet and head towards the nearest cemetery. bully

    The title is somehow wrong! We had to start like this: "Scientists all over the world are shocked!" belay
  24. Santa bear
    Santa bear April 28 2016 17: 07
    +6
    Given the reputation of REN TV, I won’t be surprised if it turns out that the Polish underwater collision
    the boat is the very one ... from the past, the Russian submarine is actually a super-secret KGB development ... just the light from Venus, having refracted in the upper atmosphere, provoked this collision. And it would seem ... where does Atlantis? Witnesses claim that several aliens were injured, but they were promptly taken to zone 51. But no one should be punished .. they are yetis
  25. Bramb
    Bramb April 28 2016 17: 12
    +2
    "There was no collision between the ships of Russia and Poland," - wrote on Twitter the spokesman for the Polish Defense Ministry Bartlomej Misevich

    http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/3247870
    1. Baloo
      Baloo April 28 2016 17: 18
      +6
      "There was no collision between the ships of Russia and Poland, "- wrote on Twitter the spokesman for the Polish Defense Ministry Bartlomej Misevich


      What is the argument about? Mikhalych and his friends got lost in fishing again, but Poland has nothing to do with it. wassat
  26. tafalar
    tafalar April 28 2016 17: 16
    +1
    maybe a polish boat was sinking and ours was pushing it ashore?
  27. Yarik76
    Yarik76 April 28 2016 17: 21
    +6
    X-Ren - TV is an office controlled by REPTYLOIDS on TV-3 said 'they won't lie!
  28. rudolff
    rudolff April 28 2016 17: 22
    +2
    The Poles had another Orzel. C-265 / ORP Orzeł (292) of our 613 project. Withdrew from the Navy of the Republic of Poland in the 83rd year.
  29. dsm100
    dsm100 April 28 2016 17: 29
    +3
    Pshekov was not enough for complete happiness. What did they do there? Only strategic interests ...
  30. Dezinto
    Dezinto April 28 2016 17: 32
    +1
    No, well, seriously .... then if this happened ... Then, figas two, they will tell the public about such an incident. Submarines - and even more so the incidents with them, have always been very secret information ...

    You can only suffer with guesses ... laughing

    All the same, I am inclined to the version that Nibiru and Atlantis quarreled.
  31. TOZ-34
    TOZ-34 April 28 2016 17: 37
    0
    RenTV - it is RenTV. Anything can be there.
    They had a "Military Secret" program. At first it was interesting in places. Now - a solid agitation.
  32. RED_ICE
    RED_ICE April 28 2016 17: 43
    0
    ????? Where did poland come from? And how did she end up in the Baltic?
  33. mik6403
    mik6403 April 28 2016 18: 10
    0
    Well, to the doge and neigh sometimes ... laughing
  34. Sergey333
    Sergey333 April 28 2016 18: 21
    +1
    And that you all attacked poor REN TV? Just the director of REN TV flew by on his own plate and accidentally photographed what was happening and decided to share with us wassat
  35. Verdun
    Verdun April 28 2016 18: 41
    0
    two submarines collided with each other in the Baltic Sea - the Russian submarine Krasnodar and the Polish Orzel
    Given the size of the Baltic Sea and its depth, there is nothing particularly surprising in this. This is how during the Second World War two American boats - Flounder and Howe, if I am not mistaken - managed to collide in the Pacific Ocean, this is a question.
  36. atamankko
    atamankko April 28 2016 18: 53
    0
    Something is wrong here.
  37. KRIG55
    KRIG55 April 28 2016 19: 19
    0
    If this happened, then the chorus of the Baltic states of Poland and Ukraine would howl day and night. There was still a Russian submarine to collide with the "Zaporozhye" somewhere in the Sea of ​​Azov.
  38. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn April 28 2016 19: 22
    +5
    Only time killed reading articles + comments, it would be better if I drank beer.
  39. Kibl
    Kibl April 28 2016 19: 30
    0
    Don’t tell the Psheks in the Baltic, rather we taxied into the Vistula. And that boats are dark, but fishing!
  40. HMR333
    HMR333 April 28 2016 19: 32
    0
    rather, the Poles entered the rock and said that the Russian submarine! it's like that case with amers leave our course ...... we are washing and we are .....))))
  41. AleksPol
    AleksPol April 28 2016 20: 06
    +4
    Come on, stop mocking REN TV wink British scientists will confirm that everything is true smile
  42. dvg1959
    dvg1959 April 28 2016 22: 58
    0
    And the Poles are the same in people.
  43. wandlitz
    wandlitz April 29 2016 04: 51
    0
    Well, there was no permission for our boat commander to open fire on the NATO, I had to ram ....
  44. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 29 2016 05: 35
    0
    Come on, they also found someone to listen to me. Now all European media would have trumpeted on this subject. Our boat will pass by Latvia or Estonia in international waters, those are hysterical. But the Psheks would generally ride along the shore in a fit of rage, you remember that they squeal about their plane near Smolensk. They would have long accused Russia of assault, like they wanted to take their boat on board.
  45. Wolka
    Wolka April 29 2016 06: 11
    0
    however, it is becoming closely in the Baltic
  46. Pacifist
    Pacifist April 29 2016 08: 39
    0
    In general, you need to check the information. Especially from REN TV. And then I don’t really want the site to turn into a standard swamp of stuffing. Puncture.
  47. made13
    made13 April 29 2016 10: 24
    0
    It’s time to equip the submarines with a ram, like triremes - that’s the weapon of peace :-)