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Ukrainians were asked what they think about the DNI and the LC

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Recently, the specialists of the Ukrainian Center for Economic and Political Studies im.Alexander Razumkov a remarkable sociological survey was conducted, during which citizens of various regions of Ukraine were invited to comment on the topic of Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics. Respondents were asked a question of the following nature:

How do you rate the DNI and LC?


Before presenting the results of the survey, it is necessary to make an important remark: Ukrainian funds and sociological monitoring services, which follow the guidelines of the Maidan authorities of Ukraine, strive to separate the very concepts of “DNR” and “LPR” from the territory they occupy and from that population which lives in these territories. That is, there is the initial premise that the DNI and the LC - as if something "outside", "having nothing to do with the processes occurring in Ukraine itself."

Such logic is easily explained. After all, if Kiev is trying to artificially separate the DPR and the LPR from those events that actually started the large-scale anti-Maidan movement, it means that it is trying to drive into the minds of ordinary Ukrainians a false message that the appearance of the DPR and LNR cannot be considered the answer of the Southeast Ukraine on Maidan obscurantism of Kiev itself. They say that we have nothing to do with it at all ... It has grown by itself ... So tell us, how do you feel about these “growths on the body of an exclusively independent Ukraine”?

It was with such a promise that a survey was conducted among the citizens of Ukraine with the results expected in advance by the representatives of the Razumkov Center.
As suggested by the said center, the answers to the question “How do you rate DNR and LC?” Were as follows:

1. Terrorist organizations do not have the right to represent the population of the respective territories.
2. Representatives of the population of the respective territories.


The survey results are presented by the geographic zones of Ukraine (East, West, Center, South and separately - part of the Donbass, controlled by Kiev).
In the west of Ukraine, the DPR and the LPR consider “terrorist organizations” 86% of respondents, in the center - 77,3%, in the south - 38,1%, in the east - 38,3%, in the Donbass (part controlled by Kiev) - 42,3%.

Ukrainians were asked what they think about the DNI and the LC


Attention is drawn to the substantial popularity of the answer “I find it difficult to answer.” For example, in the Donbass, almost 25% of respondents gave a similar answer, in the east of Ukraine - about 19%, in the south "they found it difficult to answer" - every third person at all.

Such results make it clear that any survey in modern Ukraine is more like not an objective case study, but a test for respondents. The people in Ukraine are intimidated to such an extent that it is not a question of people being ready to tell any person with a notebook in their hands or a microphone about their real views on the situation in the country. No, of course, there are those who are ready to express everything that he thinks about both the Ukrainian authorities, and about questions with results prepared in advance by the same Ukrainian authorities. But there are few of them. Most expect both checks on adherence to the ideals of Maidan (checks on lice) and are forced, as they say, to sit quieter than water and below the grass and, gritting their teeth, agree with any manifestations of Kiev insanity and obscurantism. “Though with the mobilization of criminals (about which on the TV channel 112 Ukraine on the eve told people's deputy Tymchuk”), at least with a threefold increase in tariffs in order to provide the IMF with the next tranche and its subsequent looting by Ukrainian oligarchs. And after all it’s necessary: ​​more than two years ago, for the hundredth part of the oligarchic lawlessness that is happening in Ukraine today, people threw everything and went to the Maidan, and now - ti-shi-na ... Unless, they will set fire to one tire, and going home ... And if a rally or protest rally, more impressive in terms of its composition and performance, happens, then here’s one end - you don’t have a hard time eating home. Well, do not give under this now cookies, do not give.

The same Razumkov Center asked the Ukrainians about whether they consider it necessary to maintain at least some economic ties with the DPR and the LPR. 45,9% of respondents said that all economic contacts should be stopped, including the purchase of coal, payment of pensions and benefits. At the same time, about 45,5% also stated that those who supported the idea of ​​rapprochement with Russia should be deprived of Ukrainian citizenship. And again, the rest either “found it difficult to answer” or spoke out against such measures. According to Maidan logic, all of them are also “separatists”, who need to be deprived of their citizenship and terminate all economic contacts with them. And the truth is, why do something trifling - take and strip citizenship of Ukraine 54,5 (100 - 45,5) percent of the population as “potentially dangerous elements of society” ... And yet - stop paying them wages and pensions, close jobs, land on the spot burn them out and sell them, and then separate them to complete peremoga ...

Then, and only then, the “vilna Ukrayina” will heal so that everyone around will only envy, biting their elbows ...
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  1. Ozhogin Dmitry
    Ozhogin Dmitry April 29 2016 05: 53
    +2
    In Russia, probably, too, many will be at a loss to answer what the DNI is. This is something completely incomprehensible, especially regarding power. And also when they kill their own political and military figures.
    1. sgazeev
      sgazeev April 29 2016 06: 19
      +31
      Quote: Ozhogin Dmitry
      In Russia, probably, too, many will be at a loss to answer what the DNI is. This is something completely incomprehensible, especially regarding power. And also when they kill their own political and military figures.

      No need, "probably in Russia they are at a loss." Russian grandmothers and grandfathers know better than their grandchildren what the DPR and LPR are. Of course, not everyone is so informed, one must take into account the fact that many are related by family ties, friendly ties. Maybe the Chukchi don't care where they are. Ukraine, its concerns and interest in Honduras, it is closer than Ukraine. One Chukchi to another:
      “Something is bothering me in Honduras.”
      - And you scratch. lol
      1. evgenii67
        evgenii67 April 29 2016 07: 07
        .
        Quote: sgazeev
        Russian grandparents know better than their grandchildren what the DNI and LC

        Russian grandmothers and grandfathers derive information mainly from newspapers and TV ala Kiselev, so there is no need to talk about the objectivity of this age group regarding matters in the Donbass.
        1. gorozhanka74
          gorozhanka74 April 29 2016 07: 42
          +173
          I am a granny, I don’t watch TV, education is a university (real, Pre-reform).
          my mother is 77 years old, she gets information exclusively from the Internet, does not close the laptop, uses a mobile phone in a variety of ways, including sms-naturally, and goes online. TV - only "Let's get married" (women may have weaknesses!)
          patterns in the definition of people are bad manners, cher ... ...... they do not judge by themselves, half-educated.
          1. Shamsik
            Shamsik April 29 2016 09: 14
            +49
            Famously flew! Bravo!
            1. derik1970
              derik1970 1 May 2016 10: 36
              0
              Stop drinking, start learning the language, English, you will be a translator ... gopota ...
          2. evgenii67
            evgenii67 April 29 2016 09: 54
            .
            Quote: gorozhanka74
            patterns in the definition of people are bad manners, cher ... ...... they do not judge by themselves, half-educated.

            Well, the flag is in your hands and your mother. say about the Internet in villages to people over 60, and in provincial cities you are unlikely to see many elderly people who delve into gadgets. Of course, there are people like you and your mother who use net, but they are not the majority, that's all.
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                1. AllXVahhaB
                  AllXVahhaB April 29 2016 14: 14
                  +16
                  Why respect you if you don’t know how to communicate normally with anyone ???
                2. andrewkor
                  andrewkor April 29 2016 20: 07
                  +9
                  "Defendant, why did you shit on the steps of the court?" - "I am an artist, this is how I see the World!"
              2. nadezhiva
                nadezhiva April 29 2016 15: 53
                +3
                Quote: Fil743
                Have respect for elders, puppy
                "Granny" Gorozhanka74 is 7 years younger than Mr. wink
                1. VNP1958PVN
                  VNP1958PVN April 30 2016 15: 36
                  -1
                  Mr., but always fresh, because it stinks!
            2. JIaIIoTb
              JIaIIoTb April 29 2016 15: 39
              +2
              With a part, not the majority are people like you. And not when you will not become a majority. Nature will not allow laughing
            3. AlexW
              AlexW April 29 2016 19: 07
              +20
              Quote: evgenii67
              Quote: gorozhanka74
              patterns in the definition of people are bad manners, cher ... ...... they do not judge by themselves, half-educated.

              Well, the flag is in your hands and your mother. say about the Internet in villages to people over 60, and in provincial cities you are unlikely to see many elderly people who delve into gadgets. Of course, there are people like you and your mother who use net, but they are not the majority, that's all.

              I live in a village, I'm over 60 and my wife too. She and I have laptops and tablets. The main source of information for us is the Internet. Yes, I have 2 higher degrees, and my wife has a secondary specialty, but this does not interfere with her "delving into gadgets". Neighbors of the same age are also in no way inferior. If the TV is turned on only for watching your favorite TV series. So do not bend your fingers and pretend to be a cool "digger in gadgets"
            4. Igor Polovodov
              Igor Polovodov April 30 2016 01: 04
              +3
              Mine, living in a remote village, under 80! And the Internet and Skype and mail, all communications are available! And this is all over the place!
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            6. Mercenary
              Mercenary April 30 2016 19: 12
              +1
              By your own 60 year old do not judge everyone!
              Axiom apple from an apple tree ... half-educated.
          3. vladimirw
            vladimirw April 29 2016 12: 37
            +1
            well printed! hi
          4. gladcu2
            gladcu2 April 29 2016 13: 06
            +2
            gorozhanka

            Hippo ... !!!

            :)
          5. Alekseev
            Alekseev April 29 2016 13: 44
            +29
            Quote: gorozhanka74
            they don’t judge by themselves, dropout.

            Well, why so harsh. wink
            There are different citizens, age has nothing to do with it.
            But the experience of life and work is very important.
            For example, experienced people know that fighting is dirt, blood, often a mess, etc., and not solemn marches and triumphal arches.
            They represent and what the troops look like in the war and on the ground in general. For example, the fact that a convoy of only SMEs 7-8 km long and any more or less large military unit cannot be hidden in your pocket.
            So that they do not speak "by box" there.
            Here, out of competition, Minister Lavrov’s question to Kerry’s furry is: from what does CNN not show Russian troops in the Donbass?
            I have no idea... request laughing
            But, what’s true, it’s true: in the Donbass there are millions of acquaintances, relatives, etc. You can contact on the Internet, and call somewhere, not to mention personal meetings.
            It is not difficult to deceive those who are glad to deceive themselves.
          6. udincev
            udincev April 30 2016 09: 58
            0
            Quote: gorozhanka74
            ... patterns in defining people moveton, cher ami ...... they don’t judge by themselves, half-educated.
            interpretation version touches.
            It has the right to be, sensible!
          7. VNP1958PVN
            VNP1958PVN April 30 2016 15: 38
            0
            Bravo girl, respect! love
        2. demo
          demo April 29 2016 08: 17
          +25
          It can be scooped, too.
          But in that vessel, which is called the existing worldview, little gets.

          Despite all the vicissitudes of our lives, over the past 25 years, the consciousness of our old people has not changed much.
          it remained still in the Soviet past.
          And this is good.
        3. ultra
          ultra April 29 2016 09: 26
          +39
          Quote: evgenii67
          Russian grandmothers and grandfathers draw information mainly from newspapers and TV ala Kiselev

          Is this a crime? Does TV la Kiselyov show something wrong? Propaganda, yes, but I didn’t notice an outright lie and juggling the facts (unlike the liberal media, for which this has become the norm) .PS I try not to miss Kiseleva, but and ECHO I listen almost every day, so I can compare.
          1. Alekseev
            Alekseev April 30 2016 06: 45
            +2
            Quote: ultra
            I try not to miss Kiseleva myself, but I also listen to ECHO almost every day,

            This approach does not give any guarantee that you will be able to distinguish "wheat from chaff" ...
            In general, the discussion without specifics is weak.
            Now, if it were a fact, they say, Kiselev, a bad person, lied here, but didn’t say there, but Echo put everything in place. Or vice versa.
            And so ...
            You need to read, listen, watch the media, but Tolstoy described the correct example of his attitude towards them (everyone).
            “In the newspapers from which the old prince first learned about the defeat of Austerlitz, it was written, as always, very briefly and vaguely, that the Russians, after the brilliant battles, had to retire and retreat in perfect order. The old prince understood from this official newsthat ours were broken. "
        4. Starik72
          Starik72 April 29 2016 10: 56
          +28
          Eugene. Please do not insult old women and grandfathers, they can still give odds, as smart as YOU. With no respect. Old man 72.
          1. evgenii67
            evgenii67 April 29 2016 11: 01
            .
            But who offends them, what kind of nonsense are you talking about? I’ll explain to all of you for the hundredth time that in many villages there is no high-speed or no Internet at all, and even where there is Internet, many of the 60+ generation are unlikely to use net to search for news from the Donbass, that's all! so where are the insults here ?!
            1. Samoyed
              Samoyed April 29 2016 11: 34
              +21
              There is such a thing as life experience. And, the Internet does not give it, nor does it give an understanding of events, especially since there is enough slop there. But, older people make a correct conclusion from fragmentary information. So, masked maidans were washed by the Euro-fascist ideology. But even the Nazis got into a stupor from the atrocities of the Nazi Westernists. Do not exaggerate the role of information, it still needs to be comprehended.
            2. URAL72
              URAL72 April 29 2016 12: 28
              +3
              In any village there is a mobile connection, and with it 3-4g.
              1. ultra
                ultra April 29 2016 13: 39
                +2
                Well, 4g is not in any yet, although she takes it from her mother in the village, though on an external antenna.
              2. evgenii67
                evgenii67 April 29 2016 15: 17
                -6
                Quote: URAL72
                In any village there is a mobile connection, and with it 3-4g.

                Well, maybe in your country under the flag that you write there are G and three and 4 points, but for example in the Smolensk region I can give you a bunch of examples where there’s not only net, but mobile connection is bad. especially in the territory bordering the Republic of Belarus.
                1. AlexW
                  AlexW April 29 2016 20: 25
                  +3
                  The North Caucasian and Southern Federal almost all 3G and somewhere around 30-40% covered with 4G (well, except in very deaf gorges there is no connection at all)
                2. Alexy
                  Alexy April 30 2016 17: 04
                  +1
                  What are you boorish. Sorry for the frankness
                3. boris-1230
                  boris-1230 April 30 2016 21: 56
                  0
                  fucking mobile communication is functioning. especially in the territory bordering the Republic of Belarus.

                  We also have a poor connection, especially 4G, especially on the border between the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug-Ugra and the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug. laughing negative
              3. Victorio
                Victorio April 30 2016 13: 20
                0
                Quote: URAL72
                In any village there is a mobile connection, and with it 3-4g.

                ====
                true, but normal tariff plans are quite expensive, and there are a lot of problems with affordable ones, my mother and I are tormented by skype, but I live far off the beaten path, Krasnodar Territory.
            3. NordUral
              NordUral April 29 2016 13: 46
              +2
              From this village people do not lose their minds.
            4. Strezhevchanin
              Strezhevchanin April 29 2016 19: 06
              +6
              Quote: evgenii67
              many of the 60+ generation are unlikely to use net to search for news

              Well, what do you answer, only to joke if.
            5. Orionvit
              Orionvit April 29 2016 22: 14
              0
              Well, my mother, for example, with a computer is not very. But the father-in-law, to quarrel with the mother-in-law for the computer, bought her a laptop, and they are sitting on the Internet together. And to both I dare to notice already under 80.
            6. kotvov
              kotvov April 30 2016 12: 47
              0
              But who offends them, what kind of nonsense are you talking about? ,,
              that is, to a stranger, you think it’s normal, to poke, to consider that only you are on the wave, and the rest, cabbage soup slurp over,
        5. NordUral
          NordUral April 29 2016 13: 44
          0
          Where do you get the information from?
        6. wei
          wei April 29 2016 14: 39
          0
          Kiselev was not yet born when they beat animals at Colmius
          [media = http: //diafilmy.su/diafilm1.swf? id = 2802 & t = 1 & fs = 1]
        7. svetanik
          svetanik April 29 2016 18: 32
          +9
          Well, I'm a granny. I draw information on the Internet, and also maintain personal relationships with residents of Donbass. For life, you know, you get contacts. By the way, I have a good education and everything is in order with my head. My 80-year-old mom is also up to date. She, too, is all right with her head, which I also wish you at that age. I wonder where do you get the information?
          1. evgenii67
            evgenii67 April 29 2016 18: 53
            0
            Quote: svetanik
            Well, I'm a granny. I draw information on the Internet, and also maintain personal relationships with residents of Donbass.

            Happy for you. it is logical that you are using the Internet, since you wrote here. about "okay with the head", but I did not write that someone is wrong, but wrote that not everyone who is over 60 uses the Internet - this does not mean that they are not on friendly terms with the head, it just is not so actively, or do not use the Internet at all, and those who use it are rather an exception than a rule. and in no post did I offend anyone (except for Igor Fil743, who tried to teach me morality, so to speak he asked for it) that's all. Today my anti-record))) the rating has collapsed by more than 3000, only on this topic and it's not over yetfellow however not a pity. But many spoke out, maybe even someone took off the tension (you won’t yell at the boss ...), but here it seems like I threw my emotions a little !!! all in all a good weekend, with upcoming holidays!
            1. Alexy
              Alexy April 30 2016 17: 07
              0
              Thanks at least for this
        8. dkflbvbh
          dkflbvbh April 30 2016 20: 34
          -8
          evgenii67 (1) RU Yesterday, 07:07 ↑
          Russian grandmothers and grandfathers draw information mainly from newspapers and TV ala Kiselev, so There is no need to talk about the objectivity of this age group in relation to cases in the Donbass.


          And not only this ... Everyone has brainwashed by a zombie hunter with pro-Putin propaganda ...
          Do not pay attention to the minuses ... The local Divanno-Putin party has this favorite pastime. True, she is such a bitch, she hurts her eyes, and these godrasses press the buttons with "-" (they don't see others, or maybe they don't know).
          This Putin has already been elevated to the rank of infallible, so that only the rank of Christ remains to exalt. Zadolbali already with the Donbass ... It would be better to take the buckets and grannies dragged the water or chopped wood (and half the population does not have gas ... For that Gazprom is a national wealth ...)

          Well cho lackeys? Negative ...
      2. Maxom75
        Maxom75 April 30 2016 15: 24
        +5
        aunt lives in Dnepropetrovsk, Russian, Orthodox. He goes to the church of the Russian Orthodox Church. So those who go with her to the temple with her words do not believe in the occupation of Crimea and Donbass. they really dislike the current government and regularly repel the attacks of the Uniates on their temple. They do not consider Russian enemies. So the conclusion suggests itself, a person with faith in his soul lives in a world with reason, a person without faith is like an empty pot, that they put it into it and will cook in it.
    2. 72jora72
      72jora72 April 29 2016 06: 51
      +22
      In Russia, probably, too, many will be at a loss to answer what the DNI is. This is something completely incomprehensible, especially regarding power. And also when they kill their own political and military figures.
      Not very long ago I read similar comments on "Censor" .....
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 April 29 2016 07: 07
        +12
        Here you need a video from Denis Seleznev ... But for now something else, from the "bitch of voice acting" - funny, however)))
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 April 29 2016 07: 16
          +19
          After such an aggressive "vtiralova", as in ukrosmi, it is surprising that not 100% of respondents from Ukraine think that the DPR and LPR are terrorists like DAISH. But there is a noticeable stratification in the audience - for example, the audience of Hromadsky has almost no doubts that their future is not in Ukraine, or in Poland, or VERY close, or in some other country, and the audience of channels like 112 is still somehow inclined to believe that life in Ukraine will improve.
          Maybe I'm wrong ...
          And the policy of "vtiralov" has led to the fact that after 2 years the announcers are already talking about the indisputable fact of the presence of "Russian elite troops", so, by the way, like everyone has known this for a long time, to put it mildly, they do not like it.
          ps domestic separatism is really a tin of tin. Ukrainians themselves arranged something that they so distanced themselves from so intensely for 37 years in the USSR.-from their point of view, for I do not think that Stalin just planted everyone like that, there were projectors and embezzlers government funds, and real spies.
          1. 72jora72
            72jora72 April 29 2016 10: 37
            +12
            I don’t think that Stalin just planted everyone like that, there were projectors, and embezzlers of state funds, and real spies.
            Comrade Stalin, on the contrary, took a very soft attitude towards Bandera, Melnikov and other Bulbaites and SSovtsy of Galicia (Galicia would be more correct), maybe if they were immediately rooted to the root, today Ukrainian National Fascism would not have raised its head ......
            1. Grandfather Stepan
              Grandfather Stepan April 29 2016 12: 28
              .
              So the bastards of the Ukrainians organized the Vlasov army, the Lokot republic and handed over Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya to the Germans for setting fire to houses
              1. ultra
                ultra April 29 2016 13: 42
                +11
                Quote: GRANDFATHER STEPAN
                Ukrainians organized the Vlasov army,

                Do not ascribe to yourself other people's "achievements"! The Germans organized it (the army). wink
              2. NordUral
                NordUral April 29 2016 13: 48
                +3
                There was enough shit in any nation. Read about the history of the 2nd World War.
                1. Grandfather Stepan
                  Grandfather Stepan April 29 2016 17: 50
                  -3
                  So I don’t mind, it’s just a shame that I don’t see my own and someone else’s stinks. Shit that then and now is enough everywhere. Just when the whole people are equal to 0.5% of this shit that the zombie shows is a shame not only for the Ukrainian but also for the Russian people. Time will pass and the TRUTH pops up in memoirs and memoirs and it will be doubly disappointing that we were always held by our rulers as if they were fools. The common people are always suffering, and upstairs everything is fine and they don’t give a damn that in Kiev, in Moscow .....
                  1. Alekseev
                    Alekseev April 29 2016 18: 38
                    +6
                    Quote: GRANDFATHER STEPAN
                    It's just that when all the people equal 0.5% of this shit that the zombie shows - it's a shame

                    Your frustration is understandable, but ...
                    It's a shame that exactly "0,5% of shit" is screwed up by everyone else ...
                    Although this was the case in many countries and at different times.
                    But now the most strikingly similar has manifested itself in Ukraine, and this, unfortunately, is not accidental.
              3. xan
                xan April 29 2016 14: 10
                +8
                Quote: DED STEPAN
                So the bastards of the Ukrainians organized the Vlasov army, the Lokot republic and handed over Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya to the Germans for setting fire to houses

                Grandfather! Do not take too much on Ukrainians, and so enough for the disappearance of statehood from the face of the earth. And we will deal with our own.
                1. Grandfather Stepan
                  Grandfather Stepan April 29 2016 17: 55
                  +2
                  And I’m sided with statehood. I live near the graves of five generations of my grandfathers and visit them regularly. This is my native land and whatever you call it, I’ll live here and let my grandchildren also ....
                  1. 72jora72
                    72jora72 April 30 2016 12: 11
                    +4
                    And I’m sided with statehood. I live near the graves of five generations of my grandfathers and visit them regularly. This is my native land and whatever you call it, I’ll live here and let my grandchildren also ....
                    And it’s problematic for me who was born in the city of Lviv to visit the graves in recent years my ancestors, guess why ??
              4. 72jora72
                72jora72 April 29 2016 14: 22
                +10
                So the bastards of the Ukrainians organized the Vlasov army, the Lokot republic and handed over Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya to the Germans for setting fire to houses
                No, as you put it, "Bastards khokhly" (this is probably your specific national affiliation, because I believe that the scum murderers and rapists have no nationality) just calmly mocked and killed civilians both in Ukraine itself and in Poland and Belarus, as well as France and Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia (yes, yes, these freaks were involved in punitive operations against civilians throughout Europe). When the Germans tried to throw the SS "Galicia" against the Red Army near Brody, the division was practically destroyed in a couple of days ...
                1. Signore Tomato
                  Signore Tomato April 30 2016 21: 14
                  0
                  Quote: 72jora72
                  ... When the Germans tried to throw "Galicia" against the Red Army near Brody, then the division was practically destroyed in a couple of days ...


                  Yeah! True horses know how to "fight" only against civilians. am
              5. Weyland
                Weyland April 29 2016 23: 13
                +1
                Quote: GRANDFATHER STEPAN
                That reptiles Ukrainians organized the Vlasov army


                They didn’t organize - but participated oh how active! You google about its national composition - you will learn a lot of interesting things!
                And about the Lokot Republic ... Bronislaw Kaminsky - primordially Russian name and surname! laughing (and by mother in general German)
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              7. Svidetel 45
                Svidetel 45 1 May 2016 23: 09
                0
                But we figured it out with "our" Vlasovites and we have them listed as traitors, and your Vlasovites, that is, the Benderites, are heroes in your Ukraine.
          2. oblako
            oblako April 29 2016 11: 22
            +4
            Honestly, indeed, after work of $ 5 billion in all areas of maidan preparation, I thought everything burned out there ... It turns out that we hid a lot in the bunkers and survived. There will be a reverse swing of the pendulum ... We need to make monuments with screwing heads, and those that indicate the correct direction of movement - on the axes of rotation ...
          3. Samoyed
            Samoyed April 29 2016 11: 40
            +4
            By the way, about Tukhachevsky. So he was a searchlight and a womanizer. He left the army without modern artillery.
            1. NordUral
              NordUral April 29 2016 13: 49
              +2
              Napoleonchik ...................
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      3. sergeybulkin
        sergeybulkin April 29 2016 10: 50
        0
        Not very long ago I read similar comments on "Censor" .....

        As there on the "censor" do not know, but our television in the Russian Federation kills with its stupidity and monotony, everything is done for the sake of money, "cut the loot while it's hot."
        What do we advertise on TV? You can count on fingers: remedies for diarrhea, remedies for constipation, remedies for prostatitis, colds, allergies and diapers, that's all.
        What they talk about in our "political" talk shows: about Ukraine, about Syria, about Crimea, everything.
        What the news talks about: explosions, fires, accidents, killings, what the president said, that's all.
        Sucks, green anguish, like that ...
        1. 72jora72
          72jora72 April 29 2016 11: 29
          +10
          As there on the "censor" do not know, but our television in the Russian Federation kills with its stupidity and monotony, everything is done for the sake of money, "cut the loot while it's hot."
          Firstly, such television is everywhere that we have in the USA and Ukraine, for example, TV is much more nauseating .... And secondly, who makes you watch it? personally, Kiselev with Soloviev in the evenings come to you and forcibly taped to the sofa ???
          1. Svidetel 45
            Svidetel 45 1 May 2016 23: 39
            0
            Is US television an indisputable authority for us? Or, as a well-known character, Colonel Skalozubov said - "... if evil is suppressed, all the books are collected and even burned," so then we will completely cancel television, or maybe it is still better to change the heads of television companies and the content of television programs?
        2. Svidetel 45
          Svidetel 45 1 May 2016 23: 32
          0
          I agree, "our" TV is not ours at all, 80% of the screen is advertising, cheap melodrama in terms of content and staging, hackneyed pop "stars" and top shows like "let them talk", where they throw out "fried" on the audience, all the dirt human relationships, neither mind nor heart, I call it vomit to myself, for those who like to peep through the keyhole. If there are worthwhile TV programs, then, as a rule, well after midnight, they are not available to working people. In a word, material for a down-to-earth layman, figuratively speaking, so that he does not raise his head from the trough to the sky, and does not ask questions about the meaning of life, about the spiritual, what makes people people, and not biorobots with developed grasping instincts. Our guarantor swore on the Constitution to protect the country and the people, but not only the flesh, but also the soul must be protected, and he must pay more attention to the media.
    3. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. April 29 2016 07: 35
      -5
      Quote: Ozhogin Dmitry
      In Russia, probably, too, many will be at a loss to answer what the DNI is.

      but in the DLNR themselves?
      1. kotvov
        kotvov April 30 2016 12: 56
        0
        but in the DLNR themselves ?,
        Are you interested in fruit, when you kill relatives of your neighbors, destroy houses, how do you feel about those who do this, and those who do not allow it?
    4. baudolino
      baudolino April 29 2016 07: 41
      +23
      "And also when they kill their own political and military leaders." - And also our civilians die regularly. Does the word "war" say anything?
      1. Samoyed
        Samoyed April 29 2016 11: 42
        +4
        This is the defense of rational people from the Euro-marginal Nazis.
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    6. siberalt
      siberalt April 29 2016 09: 25
      +11
      In June, new bills for gas and electricity will come "in the European way" and these polls are not worth the price. laughing
      1. Dembel77
        Dembel77 April 29 2016 11: 52
        +6
        Judging by the results of the survey, they also took fingerprints. Both Western and Eastern Ukrainians - indiscriminately. This is to test their loyalty to the occupation authorities of Kiev. Therefore, I propose to consider this show not a poll - but an interrogation!
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    8. Achilles
      Achilles April 29 2016 11: 33
      +9
      1. Terrorist organizations do not have the right to represent the population of the respective territories.
      2. Representatives of the population of the respective territories.


      I just don’t understand why in Ukraine they call militias terrorists? They don’t know what terrorism is? Have the militias of the DPR and LPR captured hostages at least once? Have committed acts of civilian infrastructure? NO, not what they didn’t do, which means they cannot be called terrorists, I think everyone should know these elementary things, it turns out a large percentage of Ukrainians are really zombified
      1. AlexW
        AlexW April 29 2016 22: 27
        +4
        This is just some kind of modern Ukraine through the looking glass. Donbass has not committed a single terrorist act, it protects its homes, their families - they are terrorists. And "patriots" blow up power lines, shoot from large-caliber machine guns at the police and passers-by, blow up, kill, burn dissenters, glorify the fascist henchmen - they are Heroes. Only for some reason these "patriots" prefer to be heroic in masks and balaclavas. They know that the hour of reckoning will come.
    9. derik1970
      derik1970 1 May 2016 09: 49
      0
      And you are absolutely right! For example, at the very beginning of the Ukrainian Maidan, it became clear to me that the fascists were in charge in Kiev, and now there is no doubt about it. But in the DPR and LPR, let’s say softly, everything is strange and incomprehensible. Mama Do not Cry. At the beginning, noble goals and decisions were guessed in their actions, but now I’m more and more confident that a stupidly organized criminal group has gathered in Chechen organized crime groups in quotation marks.
      They themselves are somehow incomprehensible by themselves or by whom and what the riddle is doing ... We are getting into the idea that the guys there are all normal and in order, and we are not without reason driving the humanitarian aid there. And if you discard the beautiful slogans, you can see that there is chaos. Either a woman leads special forces and disperses everyone, then one after another the unit commanders are killed, people disappear, humanitarian aid is at the bazaar, property is seized, spheres of influence are divided, and so on. Does this not remind you of anything? This is Chechnya during the time of independence or Russia in the 90s. The order is completely absent there, some kind of close associates of his imperial majesty with weapons are in charge, people of Tolstoy Zakharchenko or someone else, it’s hard to remember them all because one of them will bang the other ... the mess is complete there and it’s not always justified by the fact that there are fighting and type of buffer zone. There is no close-knit leadership there, it seems that bandits rule there be healthy. But we are here beautiful slogan as if from there shove in all places. But the impressions are such that in the DPR and LPR no one really controls anything and they killed the authoritative leaders because they interfered with someone.
      Here on the site there is a continuous eryayayayaya quacking, it is clear that not drunken comments but certainly not adequate, stupidly trying to mass crush the opponent. In principle, it doesn’t matter to me whoever fell there and whom, but I won’t influence the situation in any way, and being there the same way, if only the general idea of ​​the existence of these republics was noble and the same humanitarian aid was not in vain, and the victims got not gangsters. We ourselves in Russia still have that mess, organized crime groups elevated to the rank of constitutional authority, remember at least the situation of Serdyukov and Vasilyeva, and everyone is praying for Putin and others are screwing up if he has departed from the party’s line ... Putin is still good, so far, and the prospects are not clear for sure ... There will definitely not be a return to the USSR, no oligarch will steamer ship your factories, and private armies are being created on the sly. In the DPR and LPR, shelling and so on, but it’s still quiet and it’s calming, but the same thing happens, or rather, it happened a long time ago ... hi And as for humanitarian aid, in some families there is nothing to eat and no work, but who and when took into account the opinion of the country's population. Yes, no one ever. The authorities do whatever they want and beautiful slogans to the place.
  2. Jarilo
    Jarilo April 29 2016 05: 55
    +12
    Selling it is, just start, then like a snowball.
  3. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch April 29 2016 05: 57
    +11
    Miracle, not polls. If instead of a head is coconut, then you must immediately give a sheet with a tick to put a tick next to the tick.
    "Is the current measured in amperes?"
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 April 29 2016 07: 17
      0
      Yes, there is no coconut instead of the head, but rather LSD.
  4. ltc22A
    ltc22A April 29 2016 06: 02
    +35
    The Ukrainians are being asked the wrong questions. It was necessary to ask: How do they relate to the current "president" and "government" and "Verkhovna Rada"?
    And give answer options:
    1. The junta, which seized power as a result of a state coup.
    2. Sellers who sold Ukraine to overseas (and European) dollar (euro) givers.
    3. My hut is on the edge.
    fool am
    1. Lankaster
      Lankaster April 29 2016 09: 48
      +3
      Quote: ltc22A
      The Ukrainians are being asked the wrong questions. It was necessary to ask: How do they relate to the current "president" and "government" and "Verkhovna Rada"?
      And give answer options:
      1. The junta, which seized power as a result of a state coup.
      2. Sellers who sold Ukraine to overseas (and European) dollar (euro) givers.
      3. My hut is on the edge.
      fool am

      Not a single answer is correct. In fact, these are ordinary hucksters, thinking only about their pockets. But the attitude of Ukrainians towards them and the attitude towards Russia-LDNR are in no way connected with each other.
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 April 29 2016 11: 00
        +5
        Quote: Lankaster
        In fact, these are ordinary hucksters, thinking only about their pockets.

        You are wrong here. Because you do not take into account the scale and capabilities of these "hucksters" after the seizure of the supreme power in Ukraine.
        Ordinary hucksters cannot fit a regular army and shoot cities from artillery. And if they can, then this is no longer a huckster (as you put it), but an anti-people government that is engaged in the genocide of its people by all available means.
  5. Riv
    Riv April 29 2016 06: 04
    +14
    There is nothing unusual about the "hard to answer" percentage. Typical myhataskreynystvo. If the Russians come tomorrow and present the results of the poll, who will you go to complain to? And if he presents the SBU, it’s also no better. So a Ukrainian would better stick his tongue up his ass and wait it out.
    So to speak: it can. :)
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 April 29 2016 15: 13
      +4
      Riv

      This is not my hut skiing.

      If a leader comes, he will show his leadership capabilities and call the militia under his arm. Then you see how many people will follow him.

      While there is no leader, it's too early to talk about a hut from the edge. And blaming people for nothing is bad.
  6. Uncle Murzik
    Uncle Murzik April 29 2016 06: 25
    +4
    and Ukrainians still think? all the brains on the Maidan galloped! belay
    1. SANAY
      SANAY April 29 2016 07: 30
      +10
      With all my position against the Maidan junta and so on, I want to note that reasonable Ukrainians, especially the intelligentsia, exist, but have gone into the mud. You shouldn’t say that they don’t know how to think, it’s just scary to speak out loud, and now it’s dangerous. They began the "wild nineties", and as you know, they lasted ten years. Everything will return to normal, but soon there will be nothing left of the cowardly position of the "smart" from Ukraine.
      1. gladcu2
        gladcu2 April 29 2016 15: 18
        +3
        SANAY

        You are not right.

        Every brave one is a fool. But brave together is power.

        We need a leader who unites.

        Without a leader, each in itself is nothing.
        1. Valem
          Valem April 30 2016 10: 17
          +1
          Wrong....
          Ukrainians are well-known in Russia. All the corporal ranks grabbed pranks and posers in past times. What is not an application for leadership? Yes, you just do not believe in each other! So you are looking for throats in America and Europe ....
      2. Signore Tomato
        Signore Tomato April 30 2016 21: 21
        0
        Quote: SANAY
        ... that reasonable Ukrainians, especially intelligentsia, exist, but have gone into slime. ...


        Inchilicent in mud.
        It was these inclinations that speculated about the "great" "Ukrainian" skaklyatsky nation. In a sense, all "zhist" their reasoning. And they raised children-grandchildren who are only able to jump to the chant "mockalyakunagillaku".
  7. okunevich_rv
    okunevich_rv April 29 2016 06: 25
    +14
    Fu Mykola, you sho fell into trouble. Yes, not even with a fierce hatred.
    But in fact, the citizens of the square behave in strict accordance with the instructions for behavior, when captured by terrorists, namely, not looking into the eyes, not contradicting the terrorists, not drawing attention to themselves.
    I believe in this situation you will agree that ordinary citizens, namely women and children and citizens responsible for them, are not just in fear, but in wild horror. When terrorists tell everyone to jump, they must obey orders, jump and show sympathy, or solidarity with the terrorist. Before Odessa, terrorists were sent to Odessa, what should ordinary people do?
    Citizens of Ukraine polls suffer from Stockholm Syndrome (hostage syndrome)
  8. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 April 29 2016 06: 29
    +17
    How can you interview a frightened population? when gangs of fascists rush through the streets.
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 29 2016 06: 38
    +2
    Noteworthy is the significant popularity of the answer “I find it difficult to answer.”

    My hut on the edge - that's the meaning of Svidomo's whole life. Well, and also so that there was a zhrachka. There is no good reason, and they do not hesitate to "understand" something. fellow
  10. Egoza
    Egoza April 29 2016 06: 46
    +14
    What beautiful numbers in polls! but for some reason, the non-respondents think, "Hai already, these DNR-LNR are separated and the war will end." Only such people are not asked.
  11. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 29 2016 07: 10
    +13
    We are adults, and we perfectly understand what such polls are worth. After all, people see that they will quickly be taken for such a collar, everyone remembers Buzina and Odessa, and among the friends and relatives there is enough negative information. Let's see what happens when the LDNR troops go forward.
  12. black
    black April 29 2016 07: 12
    +3
    Each survey has its own statistical error. Look at the numbers, see the incographics. It turns out that the most sane citizens live in the center of Ukraine. So that's where the fat is missing.
  13. pts-m
    pts-m April 29 2016 07: 13
    +1
    The Kakhly have already shown their commitment to Russia. Those who emigrated from the expanses of the USSR to Ukraine are trying to rebel. And the rest of the "khataskrayniki"
  14. energy701
    energy701 April 29 2016 07: 47
    +2
    B / Ukraine unfinished MANKURTOV !!!
    Mankurt is not only a person, but a whole nation.
    “Mankurt are people whose hearts and brains were removed by the empire, leaving only their stomachs.
    They show their inferiority with aggression - they are all to blame, except for themselves. There are quite a few of them, and they believe that their mass justifies them.
    Deprived of understanding the self, mankurt from a practical point of view has a number of advantages. It is tantamount to a dumb creature and therefore absolutely submissive and safe. It is easy to intimidate and trample it. He resigns himself to any deprivation, and is ready to die for nothing, just like that. For him there is no concept of the value of life, neither his own nor anyone else's.
    The less developed his brain, the louder the mankurt demonstrates his non-existent superiority. All his thoughts come down to quenching instincts. They rarely step over to the second level of the Maslow pyramid.
    They use the memory of the greatness of their ancestors not to continue their noble deeds and progress, but only as a weapon in the vile and vile wars that they unleash easily and against anyone.
    It is easy to intimidate mankurts and make them do the most dirty, slop job, requiring dull patience.
    Only mankurt can stand alone the endless wilderness of its existence, often using fire water for this.
    It is only necessary to supply him with it. And then he is always in business during the winter and summer, not burdened by wildness and not complaining of hardships. The master's command for mankurt is above all.
    Mankurt is not only a person, but a whole nation.
  15. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher April 29 2016 07: 58
    +9
    Ukrainians do not need to ask about anything at all. According to social polls, today, tomorrow the SBU will work, and they understand this perfectly. Chew your bacon in silence - the basic principle of survival there, today. As long as there is fat, you can live ... But it will end, you can go to the "aggressor", there it is ... The food is better, and it is cheaper ... They are such patriots, straight oh ... laughing
  16. Siberian1965
    Siberian1965 April 29 2016 08: 15
    +8
    Quote: gorozhanka74
    I am a granny, I don’t watch TV, education is a university (real, Pre-reform).
    my mother is 77 years old, she gets information exclusively from the Internet, does not close the laptop, uses a mobile phone in a variety of ways, including sms-naturally, and goes online. TV - only "Let's get married" (women may have weaknesses!)
    patterns in the definition of people are bad manners, cher ... ...... they do not judge by themselves, half-educated.

    Awesome answer. Liberals and others love the word "they" very much. It is desirable to speak about yourself. And more often "I" use. I believe that there is more and more brown trash in Ukraine.
  17. 72jora72
    72jora72 April 29 2016 08: 48
    +16
    I give you a guarantee that you will conduct a survey in Ukraine on the topic: Is it right that they killed Buzina ?, the answer will be 70% yes, because people don’t damn it. And when asked by whom the Ato heroes are fighting in Novorossiya, 90% will answer that with Russia and Putin (my Ukrainian relatives said the same to me) ......... so mancourtism and 25 year old zombies did their job.
    P.C. The Ukraine that we all knew and loved no longer exists, And the Outskirts that are currently not viable and not loved (and not loved by the Ukrainians themselves).
  18. shinobi
    shinobi April 29 2016 08: 49
    +4
    Actually, the ruins did not have time for anything. Like any fascist state, having exhausted its internal reserves, it can survive only through external expansion. Full-scale military operations in the east and the attack on Crimea are a matter of time. With a well-known result, all these social polls find out the degree society’s readiness for this war with an irreplaceable defeat. If you can still speculate on the results in Donbass and Lugansk, then it is as clear as the day with Crimea.
  19. Scud
    Scud April 29 2016 08: 50
    +12
    To the Ukrainian. the version’s website hangs a survey — What will you do if they open visa-free travel? Most of all I got the answer - hide the fat, in the second place I will leave for Russia.
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 April 29 2016 09: 04
      +3
      Most of all I typed the answer-hide the fat, in second place, I’ll leave for Russia.

      Well written, with humor and the Ukrainian mentality is visible.
    2. Getman
      Getman April 29 2016 13: 19
      0
      Visas to Russia are not necessary.
    3. xan
      xan April 29 2016 14: 16
      +1
      Quote: scud
      To the Ukrainian. the version’s website hangs a survey — What will you do if they open visa-free travel? Most of all I got the answer - hide the fat, in the second place I will leave for Russia.

      This is answered by the audience of the Version. Do you know how the Echo of Moscow audience answers questions? There, more than 60% answer that NATO is a friend of Russia.
  20. mivmim
    mivmim April 29 2016 09: 10
    +6
    A few days ago, specialists of the Ukrainian Center for Economic and Political Studies named after Alexander Razumkov conducted a remarkable sociological survey

    Was the poll really? lol
  21. Torins
    Torins April 29 2016 09: 12
    +10
    Quote: evgenii67
    Quote: sgazeev
    Russian grandparents know better than their grandchildren what the DNI and LC

    Russian grandmothers and grandfathers derive information mainly from newspapers and TV ala Kiselev, so there is no need to talk about the objectivity of this age group regarding matters in the Donbass.

    Only young people can brainwash, and it is not possible for an adult to put something into their head without this adult thinking and putting it on his own worldview matrix. All propaganda is always aimed at youth. hi
    1. yastr
      yastr April 29 2016 15: 47
      +4
      What are you saying?
      The fact that they washed their heads with young people is not surprising.

      The brainwashing is surprising to people of Soviet hardening.
      A father's friend is from Dnepropetrovsk, serves in the Strategic Rocket Forces, lieutenant colonel, both of his sons are also in the Strategic Rocket Forces. And the grandfather in Dnepropetrovsk was going to go into the woods to partisan against the Russian troops .. So he asked his own father: against whom will you be partisan - do you know that your son and grandchildren are Russian officers? He declared them invaders, etc.
      As far as I know, they don’t talk anymore ..

      The occupation by the Strategic Missile Forces is strong :) After us - babble, guys! :)
    2. ver_
      ver_ April 30 2016 09: 43
      +1
      ... what the girl - the teacher laid down in the brains of her students often "zombies" these students for the rest of their lives, the good thing is that this does not apply to mathematical disciplines .., and humanities - very often, about history and not to talk accounted for .. according to the proverb - what is the pop - so is the arrival ..
  22. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur April 29 2016 09: 15
    +6
    About how the Ukrainians are brainwashed. A relative of my wife calls me from Ukraine, well, it's a matter of everyday life, back in the 90s, he moved there from Russia, and we need some documents that he worked here, that is, we are talking about seniority. But not the point. The end of the conversation finished me off: "I'm sorry that I called you, you will probably be called to the FSB tomorrow." Why? "Well, I'm calling from Ukraine." Like this!
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 April 29 2016 09: 37
      +5
      Greetings to the countryman, especially in the city.
      "Well, I'm calling from Ukraine"

      Here the point is probably that when they need something, for some reason they quickly forget about "Russian aggression." I will give my example. A classmate at one time graduated from a military school. When Ukraine seceded from the USSR, it took again (which is a shame) the oath to Ukraine. In 2002, he came to Khabarovsk and, at a meeting with classmates, proved to me that everything would be fine with them and much better than in Russia. It was useless to prove the opposite, although even then it was felt that Ukraine would roll downhill. It is also useless to rely on his violation of the oath (it almost came to a massacre), but there was a specific desire to muzzle the traitor. Since then, I have not met with him, but it would be very interesting to know how a Russian military pensioner lives in Kiev. Although I myself perfectly guess how.
      1. Anatole Klim
        Anatole Klim April 29 2016 10: 28
        +11
        Quote: rotmistr60
        It would be interesting to know how the Russian military pensioner lives in Kiev.

        My former colleague lives in Zaporozhye, has Ukrainian citizenship, but receives a Russian military pension, which does not prevent him from regularly blaming Russia, and he always asks when Putin will increase his pensions there. And when I say, so you go to the Ukrainian retirement, says that I do .. well, what, the Russian is more. If tomorrow their power changes, the first will shout: Glory to Russia, glory to Russia! These are cockroaches.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza April 29 2016 10: 31
      +7
      Quote: Seraphimamur
      About how the Ukrainians brainwashed.

      Well, not yet completely washed! Vaughn "dick" is indignant laughing
      The militant of the punitive battalion "Kiev" Vasily Kruzhak called the Ukrainians "bydylum" and said that it was impossible to build a state with him.
      “At Schuster Life, we’ve just been informed that 75℅ Ukrainians for Ukraine to pay DNR citizens pensions. I’ll say once again that with this cattle we won’t build a state, ”he wrote on his Facebook page.
      “I begin to assert myself that 2,5 of the year that I spent on Maidan and the ATO was in vain and useless to anyone. What kind of people, such is the state ... ”- he expressed disappointment at the participation in the“ revolution of hydanny ”.
  23. Shamsik
    Shamsik April 29 2016 09: 29
    +3
    The wrong country was called Honduras!
    (I'm not talking about the whole Ukrainian people, but about those in power)
  24. iouris
    iouris April 29 2016 10: 41
    +3
    Other statistics:
    About 5% of people think what they think.
    About 95% are better shot than they start to think.
    What answer can be given without understanding the essence of the ongoing processes?
  25. Rom14
    Rom14 April 29 2016 10: 57
    +7
    Quote: evgenii67
    Quote: gorozhanka74
    patterns in the definition of people are bad manners, cher ... ...... they do not judge by themselves, half-educated.

    Well, the flag is in your hands and your mother. say about the Internet in villages to people over 60, and in provincial cities you are unlikely to see many elderly people who delve into gadgets. Of course, there are people like you and your mother who use net, but they are not the majority, that's all.

    My granny has mastered only classmates in a year ... I don't understand why the cons ... if you count Moscow, then yes, the people there are more or less informed, but we mostly have TV, Kiselev, Pushkov and Babayan Roma, but they go to the studio like that that it is not clear who is behind ours ... What about Donbass, so no one gives a clear answer what it is. Earlier they shouted Novorossiya, unification into a republic ... Now they are silent. Only fascists kill people ... "We do not abandon our own"
    1. evgenii67
      evgenii67 April 29 2016 12: 07
      -2
      Quote: Rom14
      My granny has mastered only classmates in a year ... I don't understand why the cons ... if you count Moscow, then yes, the people there are more or less informed, but we mostly have TV, Kiselev, Pushkov and Babayan Roma, but they go to the studio like that that it is not clear who is behind ours ... What about Donbass, so no one gives a clear answer what it is. Earlier they shouted Novorossiya, unification into a republic ... Now they are silent. Only fascists kill people ... "We do not abandon our own"

      Yes, they at least ssy in the eye, all God's dew
  26. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 29 2016 10: 57
    +3
    Any sociological survey of the population has a customer who wants to have the desired result.
    And this is achieved by formulating a crafty question with the ability to interpret it in their favor.
    I do not believe polls.
  27. Neophyte
    Neophyte April 29 2016 11: 10
    +3
    Complete ignorance of the population! Apparently, they hope for a miracle from the EU! A pan will come and give here
    such a "cowbass" and will be-happiness!
  28. atamankko
    atamankko April 29 2016 11: 18
    +4
    A survey under the authority of a fascist junta is nonsense.
  29. L. A. A.
    L. A. A. April 29 2016 12: 25
    +2
    The fascists should not rule the country.
  30. L. A. A.
    L. A. A. April 29 2016 12: 29
    +3
    Quote: Rom14
    Quote: evgenii67
    Quote: gorozhanka74
    patterns in the definition of people are bad manners, cher ... ...... they do not judge by themselves, half-educated.

    Well, the flag is in your hands and your mother. say about the Internet in villages to people over 60, and in provincial cities you are unlikely to see many elderly people who delve into gadgets. Of course, there are people like you and your mother who use net, but they are not the majority, that's all.

    My granny has mastered only classmates in a year ... I don't understand why the cons ... if you count Moscow, then yes, the people there are more or less informed, but we mostly have TV, Kiselev, Pushkov and Babayan Roma, but they go to the studio like that that it is not clear who is behind ours ... What about Donbass, so no one gives a clear answer what it is. Earlier they shouted Novorossiya, unification into a republic ... Now they are silent. Only fascists kill people ... "We do not abandon our own"

    I agree. Words do not agree with deeds. How many speeches were. People believed.
  31. surrozh
    surrozh April 29 2016 13: 56
    +3
    "The people are silent" - Pushkin about the uncomplaining obedience of the people, the lack of strength and will to defend their interests. If Zakharchenko comes - they will be for him, Biletsky - there will also be supporters, and if the tariffs are lowered, they will generally wear them. Putin and I were just lucky, they weren't.
  32. Forever so
    Forever so April 29 2016 14: 18
    +1
    Nothing cleanses the brain like own experience.
  33. ver_
    ver_ April 29 2016 17: 11
    0
    Quote: vladimirw
    well printed! hi


    ..physically in this raging world .. You can call yourself Gruzdem .. you can write fiction and make claims on behalf of Jack London .. but it's better .. khe, khe .. still be more modest and don’t throw handkerchiefs - tea
    not in a duel ..
  34. ver_
    ver_ April 29 2016 17: 37
    +1
    Quote: Samoyed
    By the way, about Tukhachevsky. So he was a searchlight and a womanizer. He left the army without modern artillery.


    ..and even worse - he escaped from captivity and thereby brought the surety for him under execution ..
  35. kirpich
    kirpich April 29 2016 18: 32
    +2
    Quote: evgenii67
    But who offends them, what kind of nonsense are you talking about? I’ll explain to all of you for the hundredth time that in many villages there is no high-speed or no Internet at all, and even where there is Internet, many of the 60+ generation are unlikely to use net to search for news from the Donbass, that's all! so where are the insults here ?!


    How long have you been in the village, dear? WI-FIs have already arrived in the villages.
  36. philosopher
    philosopher April 29 2016 19: 56
    +1
    Nonsense, not a schedule, and an article from the same cache. I live in Donetsk and follow the polls and statistics available to me. I don’t want to write for the west or center, but in Donetsk, during a referendum that was not recognized by anyone (including Russia), 90% of the population who had the right to vote voted. And about 90% of those who voted were for a republic free from Kiev. This was before the war, when our territories were larger and the number was greater in comparison with our present borders. Roughly counting 10% + 10% = 20%. That is, two out of ten in our country, unfortunately, are saturated with the Ukrop spirit, but the other eight people are more or less normal. In April, our local press, on the territory of the DPR, conducted an express survey of the population. There, too, there was a sector in the diagram with 20% of the negative-minded population. Thus, over the two years of the war, the statistics have not fundamentally changed. Where are such figures for Donbass and such a ratio "for-against-undecided" from here in the graph?
    There is something wrong with this view point of view. Or just the point of view is not that ...
    1. Dali
      Dali April 29 2016 21: 30
      0
      Quote: philosopher
      ... Thus, over the two years of the war, the statistics have not fundamentally changed. Where are such figures for Donbass and such a ratio "for-against-undecided" from here in the graph?
      There is something wrong with this view point of view. Or just the point of view is not that ...

      In their survey, Donbas are the territories of the LPR-DPR, which are under the control of banderlogs.
  37. Lens
    Lens April 29 2016 22: 03
    0
    What I have not read in comments))) Well, here I live in Ukraine. They didn’t interrogate me, but I’ll put in my five cents. The center of Razumkov is not a standard. There are many such groups. They are especially pronounced before the election with their exit polls. Few readers drew attention to coordination. A kind of ephemeral north-west-south-east. In Ukraine 24 region. There are no clear numbers which relate to certain parts of the world. Why is it important? Because Western ones, for example, are the smallest in human resources. But this is not the main thing! Have you looked at the numbers? Judging by the comments of some couch politicians-in Ukraine, ALL maydanuty, Bandera, etc. And now what is visible? Doesn't everything turn out?
  38. fzr1000
    fzr1000 April 30 2016 00: 05
    +3
    The people, and I’ve thought about it, if we start to rub in about 10 years through the media and other tools all the nonsense about the peculiarity and greatness of our ancestors, the ancient Slavic-Scandinavian Aryans, that they dug Lake Baikal, and we protect it, that we are above all on this planet, etc.? Can't we jump crazy? Do not turn into Svidomo? After all, a person is quite easy to manipulate.
    1. kirieeleyson
      kirieeleyson April 30 2016 01: 02
      0
      Watching how they will rub, if they rub the truth - it will be a very serious Amban to everyone around and not only.
  39. ver_
    ver_ April 30 2016 07: 28
    +1
    ... one-man theater .. Why am I? Oh yes, senile sclerosis, however, has overtaken or is overtaken already, however:
    the sudden appearance of Jeanne D Ark with her grandmother at 77 years old "on a bare body" is very impressive - as many as 130 pluses ..- fantastic or .., maybe there is a whistle with pluses and minuses, there is an "original style" of moderation or land reclamation (sclerosis overcame) in order to direct in the right direction - what needs to be directed .. to the right place .. Well, very haberdashery ..
  40. Chaos
    Chaos April 30 2016 09: 40
    -2
    Quote: evgenii67
    Quote: gorozhanka74
    patterns in the definition of people are bad manners, cher ... ...... they do not judge by themselves, half-educated.

    Well, the flag is in your hands and your mother. say about the Internet in villages to people over 60, and in provincial cities you are unlikely to see many elderly people who delve into gadgets. Of course, there are people like you and your mother who use net, but they are not the majority, that's all.

    You're a stupid man, a fucking idiot
  41. Holsten
    Holsten 1 May 2016 10: 30
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    Quote: GRANDFATHER STEPAN
    And I need statehood

    I must ask you to excuse me for uninformative vocabulary, but
    this is the position of a dishonorable person. (For the obvious reasons, everything else is left out of the brackets)
  42. dvg1959
    dvg1959 1 May 2016 12: 17
    0
    In Ukraine, it is impossible to defend to objective sociological research, because a positive attitude towards the choice of the inhabitants of Donbas, their actions to protect their rights and freedoms, entail criminal prosecution, as well as physical reprisal from the side of radical nationalists who are allowed to.
    Therefore, the majority of Ukrainians live according to the principle "my house is on the edge", it is better to vote in support of the existing government and not have troubles. Then maybe no one will touch.
  43. Transnistria
    Transnistria 1 May 2016 22: 37
    0
    You know, Transnistrians were the main "terrorists" before. We managed to "trade arms with the whole world, and the bandits in Chechnya also fought with weapons from the PMR." And if we take as truth what our neighbors wrote about us, then it's just horror. Therefore, there is a sympathetic attitude towards the residents of Novorossia in Transnistria, the only thing is that their position is better - when Transnistria was created, we were allies of Russia, but Russia was not an ally for itself - "thanks" to Yeltsin and Pasha-Mercedes.